Speaker 1: Hi, guys, it's Sammy j and welcome to this week's episode.
Speaker 1: I hope everyone's staying safe and healthy during this very
Speaker 1: crazy time. So this episode is a constraction. Today, the
Speaker 1: amazing Jordan Fisher is my guest. We actually recorded this
Speaker 1: episode at his team's office space, and we talk about
Speaker 1: everything from his love of gaming and Broadway, to opening
Speaker 1: up about his childhood while winning Dancing with the Stars,
Speaker 1: and so much more. Well, we didn't get a chance
Speaker 1: to talk about him being in Dear of enhancent on
Speaker 1: Broadway because it wasn't public yet we covered just about
Speaker 1: everything else. There's also an amazing giveaway at the end
Speaker 1: of this, so make sure you listen carefully. Hi guys,
Speaker 1: and welcome to this week's episode. I am so excited
Speaker 1: because Jordan Fisher is here. Hi. I want to tell
Speaker 1: you guys why it means so much to me that
Speaker 1: Jordan is here today. Let's go back to May. Let's
Speaker 1: let's do it. I was thirteen years old. Jordan Fisher
Speaker 1: was my very first professional interview. It's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to believe that I was your first, Like, I can't
Speaker 1: really it's hard for me to wrap my head around
Speaker 1: that because you were so collected, you just think you
Speaker 1: were so poised already. Kind of it blew my mind. Dude.
Speaker 1: We were at this Zone hundred radio station and I
Speaker 1: remember before the interview, you performed UM for like a
Speaker 1: small group of like forty people, and I remember I
Speaker 1: remembered you from Teen Beach movie, but I didn't really
Speaker 1: know Jordan Fisher, and I remember when he started saying,
Speaker 1: everyone's just jaws dropped because you sound like an angel
Speaker 1: when you sing. And I'm very I am not just
Speaker 1: saying that, like your voice check in the mill, thank you. Um,
Speaker 1: your voice is just beyond words. And I just remember
Speaker 1: talking to you and I I felt so comfortable and
Speaker 1: just easy and it was so great, very sweet. So
Speaker 1: let's fast forward to September. Jordan actually introduced me to
Speaker 1: Radio Disney, and because of him, I've been working with them,
Speaker 1: and I can say for certain that I know I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be sitting here having this podcast You're doing anything
Speaker 1: if it weren't for you. So very very sweet. I'm
Speaker 1: very proud of you. I actually pulled a quote from
Speaker 1: the first interview, but I want to Okay, great, okay,
Speaker 1: let's hear it. Quote my life right now. For the
Speaker 1: next while is music. It's putting out the album, touring,
Speaker 1: doing that whole thing, and hopefully when the right film
Speaker 1: comes along, doing that, maybe work on Broadway for a minute,
Speaker 1: you know, go back on tour, put out another album,
Speaker 1: work on another film, and go back on tour. That's
Speaker 1: what I want to do for forever. Isn't it crazy?
Speaker 1: It's done all that in the past three years. It's
Speaker 1: kind of I mean, it's wild. I you know, I
Speaker 1: never I never got around to putting out the like
Speaker 1: the full album. UM and film really came trickling back
Speaker 1: into my life much faster than I anticipated. And I
Speaker 1: think a little bit it's interesting how how you have
Speaker 1: like an idea of what you think it's going to
Speaker 1: make you happy, and then with the lack of control
Speaker 1: that we have in our lives, often times things just
Speaker 1: kind of fall into place the way that they should.
Speaker 1: You put it out there. Let's go down the timeline.
Speaker 1: All right, You've released a me P. He's acted in movies,
Speaker 1: You've been on Broadway, you one Dancing with the Star.
Speaker 1: She became a gamer. Well I was already a gamer, yeah,
Speaker 1: but like you became a professional. Well yeah, really dove
Speaker 1: into it and you got engaged. You've done a lot,
Speaker 1: but it's it's been it's been a heck of a
Speaker 1: few years for sure. So which one comes easiest to
Speaker 1: I don't know the one comes easier than the other.
Speaker 1: I think that to maintain my ability to do all
Speaker 1: of them, well, I have to keep working at all
Speaker 1: of them. Well, you said on social media recently that
Speaker 1: during the height of all of the success you felt
Speaker 1: the most alone. Can you tell me more about that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's an interesting it's an interesting thing, like
Speaker 1: mental health is, uh is a very important thing to
Speaker 1: prioritize in your life. And I think that it's really
Speaker 1: easy to to be in the midst of the busy
Speaker 1: and the hectic and not think about how you're actually doing.
Speaker 1: And yes, so I was part of the November campaign
Speaker 1: UM where mental health for men specifically is concerned and
Speaker 1: and it's not talked about enough. It's not I think
Speaker 1: because as men, we don't typically talk about it enough.
Speaker 1: I think that we have a habit of of just
Speaker 1: kind of dealing, you know, and uh, silently suffering and
Speaker 1: like whatever it is that we're dealing with, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, just because of I think social stigmas. I
Speaker 1: think that's just kind of what it is we're meant.
Speaker 1: We feel like we're meant to be a certain type
Speaker 1: of human man. You know, shape up, just keep your
Speaker 1: keep your chin up, man up, buff up, do the thing.
Speaker 1: And uh, I don't know that that's that's particularly the
Speaker 1: healthiest thing for us. I think that we should talk
Speaker 1: about on it and um, you know, put ourselves out there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I went through I went through a rough time for
Speaker 1: years ago and when things were working really really well
Speaker 1: for me, but I was lonely. I felt lonely, I
Speaker 1: felt not good, I felt sad, and when I had
Speaker 1: all of these great things to be happy about, do
Speaker 1: you know what the change and what helped you get
Speaker 1: through it? In particulars talking to people, I think that
Speaker 1: I think that talking to a professional is probably always
Speaker 1: going to be the best way to go about it. Um.
Speaker 1: I did not do that then, But it's funny because
Speaker 1: I'm starting to do that now, isn't it great? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm amped. And I think it's important to
Speaker 1: work with somebody that is professionally trained and has an
Speaker 1: education on helping people sort through their thoughts and and
Speaker 1: be comfortable and their and their skin and happy with
Speaker 1: their own company. I think that that's a very important
Speaker 1: thing that we don't prioritize enough. Well, let's switch gears,
Speaker 1: shall we. I want to talk about Dancing with the Stars. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's in it. I just want to say to everybody
Speaker 1: listening that I called it that you would win when
Speaker 1: it was announced. I remember saying it to you, and
Speaker 1: I called it everybody, this is true. Well, on the show,
Speaker 1: you were incredibly vulnerable and open with your adoption story.
Speaker 1: Were you ever hesitant to be that open and vulnerable
Speaker 1: because millions of people were watching? Yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: definitely was. It was Lindsay was my partner that that
Speaker 1: really UM encouraged me. Oh, you know, kind of be
Speaker 1: an open book in that way and and let people
Speaker 1: into that side of my my life and educate people
Speaker 1: on where I come from and you know, be um,
Speaker 1: I guess, kind of be a beacon in that way.
Speaker 1: And the coolest thing that came out of that was
Speaker 1: less the catharsis of telling you know, the story and
Speaker 1: my story and allowing people to know exactly what my
Speaker 1: dynamic is, UM, but hearing other people's stories as well,
Speaker 1: people coming out of the woodwork, you know, just Instagram,
Speaker 1: d m s and Twitter and whatnot. Facebook people just saying, hey,
Speaker 1: you know saw this thing, and you know this really
Speaker 1: moved me and my family because I'm adopted or I
Speaker 1: adopted two kids or whatever the thing is. And to
Speaker 1: hear those stories was really meaningful. Okay, question where is
Speaker 1: the mirror ball in your home? Where is it? I
Speaker 1: have this little nook because little knowing you, like walking
Speaker 1: to my house here in the four years, like a
Speaker 1: parlor off to the left, but there's this nook that
Speaker 1: right before you go down like one of the like
Speaker 1: the first main hallway, and it's just sitting there and
Speaker 1: I have no lights on it or anything. And we
Speaker 1: just did a panel with rashand Jennings and they were
Speaker 1: asking us where our mirrorbas were. And he was like, you'
Speaker 1: got this like this glass case and it's on this
Speaker 1: It's on my mantel in my living room and it
Speaker 1: spins and there's like an LED light that has I
Speaker 1: was like, wait, what I need to do that. I
Speaker 1: need to do something like that. But when I first
Speaker 1: won my I was renovating my house, so it was
Speaker 1: in my bathroom for the first like five months that
Speaker 1: I had it. You should put it on display. It's
Speaker 1: a good conversation. So absolutely, well, now it is. It's
Speaker 1: like one of the first think you see when you
Speaker 1: walk amout hod So when dancing with the stars. I
Speaker 1: am not surprised at all because you're an incredible danswer
Speaker 1: and you've done it for quite a while. First, for
Speaker 1: those who don't know, you played video games for basically
Speaker 1: your entire life. Yeah, yeah, you have in a game
Speaker 1: in my whole life. And I'm really curious to know
Speaker 1: when did that, just the love for getting become a
Speaker 1: part of your career. That's a great question, um, and
Speaker 1: one that I don't think I talked about enough. So
Speaker 1: you've heard of this this little game called Fortnite. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it sounds kind of familiar. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's it's this cool little game. You know. You build
Speaker 1: walls and ramps and roofs and things to to protect
Speaker 1: yourself and to get reached places, and you are trying
Speaker 1: to eliminate other players and then be the last person
Speaker 1: standing on this bat. What do you win if you're
Speaker 1: the last person standing? A victory royale and bragging rights.
Speaker 1: That's what you're win. Yeah, that's what you win. Did
Speaker 1: you ever think that you would be a professional and
Speaker 1: you'd be paid to be playing game No. No, I
Speaker 1: worked at game Stop when I was sixteen. I mean, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: gaming has been a massive part of my life for
Speaker 1: forever and very grateful for that. What do you mention
Speaker 1: about it? It's an escape, you know, it's Um, it's
Speaker 1: also really great opportunity to laugh and play with friends,
Speaker 1: to talk to commune the fellowship, to encourage one another,
Speaker 1: to joke and pick and play, and um, it is
Speaker 1: socially one of the most rewarding things that we have,
Speaker 1: I think, and I'm really grateful for that. I love that.
Speaker 1: That's probably my favorite aspect of it. One of these
Speaker 1: days you have to teach me for sure, because I
Speaker 1: don't know how to play absolutely I got you. Okay,
Speaker 1: What is the longest you've played for in one sitting?
Speaker 1: Oh god? Um, fifteen or sixteen? I did a land
Speaker 1: party at a at a buddy's house. We played. We
Speaker 1: all brought our xboxes and like our console televisions over
Speaker 1: to his place and connected via land and played Halo.
Speaker 1: I think for like sixteen seventeen hours. What about recently? Recently? Um,
Speaker 1: it's going to be like a charity stream or something
Speaker 1: that I've done that that required would have required, you know,
Speaker 1: like a long period of time. I think eleven hours.
Speaker 1: I think intense. It is, but you know you love
Speaker 1: it if well, it's it takes a while to get
Speaker 1: there because it is it's strenuous mentally to sit there
Speaker 1: for that period of time, well in front of between
Speaker 1: and to entertain. Yeah. Yeah, you have to recognize, like
Speaker 1: I'm on for that for that period, I am playing
Speaker 1: at a high level. I'm talking to the people that
Speaker 1: I'm that I'm talking to other content creators that are
Speaker 1: also streaming, that are also on and also entertaining, trying
Speaker 1: to find that swing and that flow of being in
Speaker 1: the same discord channel together, muting with the foot pedal,
Speaker 1: and then talking to our chat as well. We've got
Speaker 1: thousands of people that are all talking to us while
Speaker 1: we're playing, to handle the stream, diagnostics, to handle the
Speaker 1: transitions between scenes, and then also continue the gameplay. Go
Speaker 1: like that. There's so much that it's a full Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: I find this so interesting because I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I always thought I was just like talking to people
Speaker 1: and playing games. Four monitors, a camera to mice, two keyboards,
Speaker 1: two PECS classes because I already needed classes. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: doesn't that like strain your eyes? Yeah, I mean there's
Speaker 1: there's ways you take care of that. I'm really curious
Speaker 1: when you started gaming, is your fan base They're different
Speaker 1: than your fan base with your music and acting career.
Speaker 1: When I started streaming, it was completely more so TV film,
Speaker 1: music fans coming to watch and hang while I did
Speaker 1: something that they weren't aware of at all and nothing
Speaker 1: that they you know, knew about. And then as I
Speaker 1: continued to stream into play, my fan base grew on
Speaker 1: Twitch specifically more so for the gaming space, Like you know,
Speaker 1: it was a bunch I have a bunch of like
Speaker 1: gamers and my channel and again the bridging of the gap,
Speaker 1: it's really important to me. So if my intro on
Speaker 1: my stream, there's there's just like this awesome four minute
Speaker 1: piece that kind of just introduces people, lets people know
Speaker 1: like who I am, where I've come from, because the
Speaker 1: amount of people to come in and they're like wait,
Speaker 1: how wait, hold on now, hold on then and you know,
Speaker 1: to be able to kind of an incredible voice, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, can you do the rest of the Grandma Petty?
Speaker 1: That's my Grandma Petty? Grandma Petty, she here, baby, she
Speaker 1: got you. Okay, now let's talk acting. Yes, talk to
Speaker 1: you about that. I know the story you've told me.
Speaker 1: You started acting because the girl in the fifth grade
Speaker 1: and that's when we first went to drama class. That's right.
Speaker 1: Was there a pivotal moment when you realize, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is what I want to do for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life, for the rest of my life. I
Speaker 1: got bit by the bug for sure. I was in
Speaker 1: fifth grade. Fell in love with it very quickly, you know,
Speaker 1: the girl or acting, I mean acting, I mean girl,
Speaker 1: I got the girlfriend. No, not so much. Did my
Speaker 1: first school play, regional show, professional show, and then joined
Speaker 1: the professional Theater Company by that December and was working.
Speaker 1: I don't know that there was like ever a moment
Speaker 1: where I walked on the stage and had the epiphany
Speaker 1: like it happens in films where the light bulb goes off,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is because I still, you know,
Speaker 1: worked hard and you know, academically, I was like I
Speaker 1: was premed and I had like a I had a
Speaker 1: backup plan and continued working on that. Actually, like while
Speaker 1: I was working in l A on television, and it's
Speaker 1: a very tough industry, entertainment industry. How many auditions did
Speaker 1: you go on before you got your first role? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I spent years years just auditioning and not
Speaker 1: booking it getting down to me and one of the
Speaker 1: guy And that's probably the worst part. Two is that
Speaker 1: you're so close. Every time I was was dubbed like
Speaker 1: the King of almost. There was my my Birmingham, Alabama
Speaker 1: was my Hometown's where I spent the better part of
Speaker 1: my childhood. Have been here for thirteen years. But they
Speaker 1: did this this article on me and about like traveling
Speaker 1: back and forth and doing this whole thing Birmingham News,
Speaker 1: and it was the title was the King of almost
Speaker 1: It was that was me. I mean, like I wished
Speaker 1: it was constant. It's important. It's important people recognize that
Speaker 1: it's I mean, there's nothing luxurious about what we do.
Speaker 1: There's nothing like long hours. Oh my god. Yeah. See
Speaker 1: I don't think people realize that, No, they don't. It
Speaker 1: just all of a sudden, the movies made Yes speaking
Speaker 1: a movie. He also just filmed another movie that some
Speaker 1: people may have called to other boys I've loved before
Speaker 1: and see yes that's right. PS, I still love you.
Speaker 1: What was the process of filming, how is the audition?
Speaker 1: How is working with thous In Tonao? It was great,
Speaker 1: I'd see. I just finished Rent. It was literally like
Speaker 1: the day before I finished that, I got a call
Speaker 1: asking my availability for this film. I was like, oh wait,
Speaker 1: I hadn't even seen it yet, and I was like,
Speaker 1: did you see the first one of that? I had
Speaker 1: not seen the first one at that point, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh wait, like I definitely have heard of it.
Speaker 1: You know, it was a big splash. I have no
Speaker 1: no sintennaio for a really long time. He was on
Speaker 1: Disney too, right, he was. But we met. I don't
Speaker 1: even remember how we met. We met their mutual friends,
Speaker 1: like eight years ago. We've known so we've known each
Speaker 1: other for a very long time. And I got a
Speaker 1: call asking, you know, for my availability and if I
Speaker 1: and if I did have the availability, if I could
Speaker 1: get phone up to Vancouver real fast to read with
Speaker 1: Lana got the flu, which was not fun. That was
Speaker 1: that really sucked um. But I also watched watched the
Speaker 1: first of all the Boys and was so enamored. There's
Speaker 1: a whole thing with my passport. I lost my passport
Speaker 1: in a move. I had to wake up at like
Speaker 1: four thirty am to go down to the Federal Building
Speaker 1: to like stand in line in the cold with the flu,
Speaker 1: like looking at my sides like frigid outside. Managed to
Speaker 1: get my passport immediately hopped on a flight up to
Speaker 1: Vancouver with the flu and like studying just got my
Speaker 1: passports so uncomfortable, so just like in pain, got up there, landed,
Speaker 1: slept for like five hours, woke up red with Lana,
Speaker 1: kept my distance, and then got back on a flight,
Speaker 1: headed back down to l A. Landed and got the
Speaker 1: call that that I was doing it and that I
Speaker 1: was leaving in like three days to go start filming. Wow,
Speaker 1: you also just filmed a movie with Sabrina Carpenter and
Speaker 1: like because she called to work it, which I am
Speaker 1: very excited to see. What was it like filming with
Speaker 1: Sabrina because you guys have been friends for a while,
Speaker 1: known for a long time, known for a long time. God,
Speaker 1: I think she was twelve or thirteen when we met,
Speaker 1: Like it was it's been a minute, and it's interesting,
Speaker 1: like and we we played lovers in the movie. It
Speaker 1: was very very interesting. It was a very like and
Speaker 1: she's like your sister, right, Like that's weird. It's an
Speaker 1: interesting it's an interesting thing. You. I was just talking
Speaker 1: to somebody about this recently. Like you just it goes away,
Speaker 1: Like when you're on set and you put yourself in
Speaker 1: the role and you are there and you're doing the
Speaker 1: work and you're surrounded by eighty two people. You just
Speaker 1: as an actor, you become used to it, right, Like
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's an interesting it's an interesting concept, but it just
Speaker 1: kind of disappears, like Jordan and Sabrina disappear, and it
Speaker 1: becomes your character, and it becomes the characters. It really
Speaker 1: is a beautiful film. Sabrina is great in it. Liza
Speaker 1: Coci is, She's hysterical. It's really really wonderful. I'm e
Speaker 1: she really is. She. I loved it. She was wonderful
Speaker 1: and it You also were in a small show that
Speaker 1: many people may not know, but it's called Hamilton's Okay.
Speaker 1: I have so many questions. Was the audition process like
Speaker 1: for Hamilton's Man, because you know I'm a huge fan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to make anybody mad. It was a
Speaker 1: phone call. It was I was in Nashville. I played
Speaker 1: a show and Tommy Cale I did Grease Live with.
Speaker 1: He was the director for Grease Live. Yeah, Tommy called me.
Speaker 1: I was playing a show in Nashville and I got
Speaker 1: off stage like eleven thirties midnight thirty New York time,
Speaker 1: and he said, hey, do you have a second to chat?
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, what's going on? He said,
Speaker 1: how quickly can I get you to New York? And
Speaker 1: how long can you do the show? And I said
Speaker 1: I can technically be there in like two days and
Speaker 1: I can do it for like four months. And he's like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, well, if you're down, like, let's work
Speaker 1: towards making that happen because we need you kind of quickly.
Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, to back to l
Speaker 1: a film, a film, a music video, and then red
Speaker 1: eye to New York landed, dropped all my stuff off
Speaker 1: at the hotel and then started rehearsing. How long was
Speaker 1: it rehearsal? The rehearsal process took like five weeks? Five weeks,
Speaker 1: and you were just yeah, and you're learning the show
Speaker 1: by yourself because everyone's doing right exactly. So you're learning
Speaker 1: the show with a dance captain, you know, an associate director,
Speaker 1: an associate mu supervisor and then yeah, and then you
Speaker 1: run through it like once maybe twice with understudies and
Speaker 1: covers and a couple of like the principles, and and
Speaker 1: then like when it's your time to go, you've only
Speaker 1: really run through the show once or twice, and you
Speaker 1: are shoved out there like in front of an audience
Speaker 1: that have at that time have been you know, maybe
Speaker 1: waited two years to see the show, paid god knows
Speaker 1: how much to get their tickets, and now you're the
Speaker 1: one performing. You're the one doing it. That's so insane
Speaker 1: to me. And I think there's a line in the
Speaker 1: show that I love. It's so small of the entire
Speaker 1: thing is incredible. It was in my shot when Lynn says,
Speaker 1: this is not a moment, it's a movement. And I
Speaker 1: just love that line because there's so many different layers
Speaker 1: to the show. So like when you were performing and
Speaker 1: it did you do you still realize those little layers
Speaker 1: throughout the show. It's a very in depth it was.
Speaker 1: It's an incredible show. Think almost every performance, every every
Speaker 1: time I did the show, there was something that I
Speaker 1: would catch and be like, and it usually it was
Speaker 1: like it was like Lynn, I can't believe there's my
Speaker 1: favorite song is is Um NonStop? A good one? And
Speaker 1: he's able to narrate. He's able to narrate a three
Speaker 1: month period of one of the most one of the
Speaker 1: most congressionally disarmed moments in American history. In the course
Speaker 1: of like a few lines, he says corruptions such an
Speaker 1: old song that we can sing along and harmony, and
Speaker 1: nowhere is it's stronger than in Albany. This colony's economy
Speaker 1: is increasingly stalling. And honestly, that's why public service seems
Speaker 1: to be calling me. I practiced the law, practically perfected it.
Speaker 1: I've seen injustice in the world, and I've corrected it
Speaker 1: now for a strong central democracy. If not, then I'll
Speaker 1: be Socrates throwing verbal rocks at these Mediocrates. And I
Speaker 1: just like the rhyme, scheme, the word play, and how
Speaker 1: it's he's able to narrate what's happening in such a
Speaker 1: short amount of time, and just the way just when
Speaker 1: you read it, it's you know, certain songs you can
Speaker 1: only listen into a few times. You can I've listened
Speaker 1: to that soundtrack hundred thousand times, and I still pick
Speaker 1: up different things totally. Yeah, and you will continue to do.
Speaker 1: So you are very blessed, which in that you get
Speaker 1: to be friends with the modern day Shakespeare. It's the truth.
Speaker 1: That's what I call him as well. He's he's he's
Speaker 1: our Shakespeare. He is. How did you meet him? We
Speaker 1: did a promo shoot for Greece Live before we started rehearsals,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks before Thanksgiving, I think, and then
Speaker 1: the director, you know, he just he kind of grabbed
Speaker 1: a few of us and was like, Hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go get dinner with some friends tonight, um that are
Speaker 1: in town working on a movie, and you know, you
Speaker 1: guys like to come. It was me and Aaron to Fate,
Speaker 1: Julianne Huff, I think, Vanessa, and then Tommy and then
Speaker 1: in Walks Limo and Miranda and a huge you know
Speaker 1: in the Heights fan and I just I've I've loved
Speaker 1: his stuff. Bring it on, you know. Um went Chump
Speaker 1: Street and he walked in. I was like, oh, so
Speaker 1: this is who I'm having sushi with tonight. That's great,
Speaker 1: and we met, we clicked. It was great. And then
Speaker 1: he saw Greece when it happened, and he was he
Speaker 1: became a fan, and I was already a fan, and
Speaker 1: and then we became buddies. Went up. I went up
Speaker 1: to see Hamilton's two weeks after Greece happened, a week
Speaker 1: or two after Grease happened, like very very immediately, and
Speaker 1: he hit me on Twitter and was like, hey, Thursday
Speaker 1: night is Broadway Bowls Like it's so it's a there's
Speaker 1: a Broadway Bowling League every Thursday night. He was like,
Speaker 1: come b our Ringer. And so I went and bold
Speaker 1: with Lynn and the rest of the Hamilton's cast at
Speaker 1: the time after like right after I had seen them
Speaker 1: do the show and it was awesome and and yeah,
Speaker 1: it was an amazing, an amazing experience, and then he
Speaker 1: and I clicked became buds, and that was it. Do
Speaker 1: you have a favorite memory, because you guys have a
Speaker 1: song together, which is crazy to say, Jack, do you
Speaker 1: have a favorite memory? Which, jeez, honestly probably Like, so,
Speaker 1: I'm doing his musical on Broadway in New York, did
Speaker 1: a Sunday mattinee, and then went straight from from the
Speaker 1: theater to JFK, flew to London, landed through my stuff
Speaker 1: in a hotel room, got picked up, and went straight
Speaker 1: to set to go film the music video, and we
Speaker 1: hung all day. We played music and laughed and watch
Speaker 1: funny videos and played piano and like that's how we
Speaker 1: filmed the music video. We we wrapped at like nine
Speaker 1: pm that night, and then I went back to a
Speaker 1: hotel and grab died like a nightcap with my manager
Speaker 1: and slept for like four hours, and then woke up
Speaker 1: the next morning and hopped on a flight and flew
Speaker 1: back to New York and landed the JFK and went
Speaker 1: straight back to the theater and did Hamilton's How did
Speaker 1: you find out you guys were going to do the
Speaker 1: song together? He hit me he I was actually coincidentally
Speaker 1: on vacation in Hawaii and face he FaceTime to me,
Speaker 1: and it's a nice surprise. It was like, hey, you
Speaker 1: know doing this? Uh you know Mowana is happening. Blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. I would love for you to sing like
Speaker 1: a cover to one of the songs from the film
Speaker 1: that will play during the end credits, as long as
Speaker 1: I can be the featured rapper on it. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's insane. It's pretty great. Well, as we talked about,
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry is a very it's a tough industry
Speaker 1: to be in what has been the hardest thing you've
Speaker 1: had to overcome in it? I think the hardest battle
Speaker 1: is satisfaction. I think that, um, are you perfectionist? Yeah,
Speaker 1: very much. So it's important to recognize that you will
Speaker 1: probably never be satisfied with anything. Um quote from A
Speaker 1: Hamilton's man, Oh my god, has it ever made you
Speaker 1: want to give up? No? No, because I recognized that
Speaker 1: I'm only twenty five and I still I'm still so
Speaker 1: not um completely in touch with who I am as
Speaker 1: a person. And it's a journey though it is very much. So. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what I want to do with this podcast. Like
Speaker 1: I love that you know, nothing's turned on, Like we're
Speaker 1: just I love to get to know people. And I'm
Speaker 1: glad that you're just being honest, you're not turning it
Speaker 1: on and you're just telling me about everything. I think
Speaker 1: it's important to realize that everyone's just people. Absolutely. I
Speaker 1: love that. Al Right, So this is the point of
Speaker 1: the show where we are going to be doing some drawing. Okay,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you're good or bad. We have
Speaker 1: some hats here. We're gonna go half on one side,
Speaker 1: half on the other, and then we're going to switch.
Speaker 1: At the end, we're going to sign it and a
Speaker 1: lucky person might get it as a giveaway. Beautiful, all right,
Speaker 1: what color do you want to go with? Firms? Start
Speaker 1: with a nice a nice blue. Okay, I think I'm
Speaker 1: going to go for the army green. That's mine. And
Speaker 1: then we just go huh and I'm gonna draw a
Speaker 1: dog on the bill of the hat. Nice. There we go. So, Joan,
Speaker 1: what's up, girl? I have some more questions for you.
Speaker 1: We'll hit me. What is the best advice you've ever received? Oh,
Speaker 1: to not be so serious all the time. I should
Speaker 1: probably listen to that. Going for an orange. It's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard to practice that, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: It really is. It's very very hard to practice not
Speaker 1: being so serious all the time. So I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of letting letting my hand guide me. I
Speaker 1: respect that. Okay, I think I'm gonna go with pink
Speaker 1: and then just kind of fill it in. UM used
Speaker 1: on me since I was thirteen. I'm seventeen now, Isn't
Speaker 1: that weird? It really does? But if you were my
Speaker 1: age again, or if you were your younger self, what
Speaker 1: would you tell your younger self, nothing at all. We
Speaker 1: all go on our journey. You know, we learned so
Speaker 1: much by making mistakes and by getting some bumps and
Speaker 1: some bruises, and and I think we forget the importance
Speaker 1: of the bar this pink again, Okay, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: for purple. I think I'm gonna go for some nice
Speaker 1: ocean waves. Well, I know you've talked about talking about
Speaker 1: this actually in our first interview. How when you put
Speaker 1: things out in the universe they come back around. What
Speaker 1: do you want to put out to the universe right now? Uh? Joy,
Speaker 1: I think that happiness is really important. I like that,
Speaker 1: I really do. I think that happiness is really important.
Speaker 1: I think it's something that is like so overlooked. I
Speaker 1: think it's so important to be happy. So I like
Speaker 1: your color scheme, my friend, the purple, the what is that?
Speaker 1: The pink? And it's real cute. Okay, I'm going back
Speaker 1: for orange. Um. Trying to think what I want to draw.
Speaker 1: I think I'll draw a butterfly, to draw a big eyeball,
Speaker 1: kind of creepy, but kind of like it. Would you
Speaker 1: say that you're a spiritual person? Yeah? Absolutely? Are you
Speaker 1: the end of um? Yeah? I am I think I
Speaker 1: become more so, but I think it depends on the day.
Speaker 1: Are you the kind of person who lives life with
Speaker 1: having regrets or do not have any regrets in life?
Speaker 1: We're agatting deep here, my friends, I guess we are. No.
Speaker 1: I think that everything happens for a reason. I agree
Speaker 1: with that completely. Again, like even the even the bumps
Speaker 1: and the bruises that we get along the road, mistakes
Speaker 1: that we make, and what I think, they're all like,
Speaker 1: they're all formative. It's important that we experience those things.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I think I agree with that everything
Speaker 1: happens for a reason. I think for a long time
Speaker 1: I lived my life having regrets on certain things. But
Speaker 1: I read this quote basically saying to live your life
Speaker 1: in the moment, and you know, regrets are something that
Speaker 1: we put on ourselves. That and it's a waste of
Speaker 1: time when you could be doing something better. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, on a lighter topic, what your go to playlist?
Speaker 1: Who's on it? It's also a really good question because
Speaker 1: it also very much depends on just like where I'm at,
Speaker 1: I agree with that, you know what I mean? For me,
Speaker 1: it's like very Broadway right now, really let's playlist more
Speaker 1: an album? Okay, what album Try Hard by the band Camino?
Speaker 1: Have you heard of the band Camino? They played Lala recently.
Speaker 1: I became obsessed with them. What about them do you love?
Speaker 1: So it's four guys and they have the lead guitarist
Speaker 1: and the rhythm guitarists are are the co lead singers,
Speaker 1: And I love that. I think that's really cool. So
Speaker 1: the shows are always really powerful because they're not as
Speaker 1: exhausted all the time. Um, they are a little bit
Speaker 1: of everything. They're there, there, there. I'm a huge pop
Speaker 1: punk guy. Um, that's most of what I've been listening
Speaker 1: to lately. It's just like going back in time listening
Speaker 1: to like Yellow Card and Green Day and Fallout Boy
Speaker 1: and Amberlyn and Morosa. Yeah yeah, yeah, Um. And these
Speaker 1: guys are a little bit of that, a little soul,
Speaker 1: a little folk, a little country, a little like they're
Speaker 1: a little bit of all of that. I love. What
Speaker 1: would you say your favorite Broadway show is of all time?
Speaker 1: Once in this Island. I've never seen it, been obsessed
Speaker 1: with it for forever. Would you want to be in
Speaker 1: that show? Yes? I want to be one of the gods.
Speaker 1: Though people are like Oh, you'd be a great Daniel.
Speaker 1: Like Daniel's an easy, thankless role. What's the plot of it? Um?
Speaker 1: It is a folk story from the from an island
Speaker 1: in the French Antillies. Um, it's a it's a Romeo
Speaker 1: and Juliette kind of story. It's really sweet. I like
Speaker 1: shows that aren't like really happy endings, like and Dear
Speaker 1: Van Hanson. You know he's not with Zoe, but he's himself, right,
Speaker 1: He's happy, He's like finding joy. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: it's important. Man. Isn't it crazy that you can learn
Speaker 1: so much about a concept within a two hour time period. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I think that's what's just so amazing about art. It's
Speaker 1: so important. People see Broadway. I think it's so importan
Speaker 1: people see live live production is nothing like live theory
Speaker 1: work at my start, so of course i'm a little biased,
Speaker 1: but no, but there's just something about it. Wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm almost done here. I'm just doing a final line.
Speaker 1: This looks kind of cool. I'm not gonna lie. Oh cool, nice,
Speaker 1: I want to see this. Oh, I like this isn't
Speaker 1: that cool? Okay, So let's star let's sign it in
Speaker 1: the background here, and then I have one last question
Speaker 1: for you, my friend. You're left handed, very left handed.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I still have? I was organizing
Speaker 1: through my room and do you remember the first interview
Speaker 1: you gave out those like those cards, those like handra cards.
Speaker 1: I still haven't you do? I'm ready beautiful. This is
Speaker 1: I think my favor. That's it's it's pretty bad. Okay. Nice.
Speaker 1: The final question, it's a deep one. Okay, let's hear it.
Speaker 1: How do you want to be known and what do
Speaker 1: you want your legacy to be? I don't know what
Speaker 1: I want my legacy to be, but I want to
Speaker 1: be known as somebody that does great work and is
Speaker 1: an even better person. I think you're already doing that. Well.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that well. I just want to
Speaker 1: thank you again, Jordan for being on this podcast. Thank
Speaker 1: you for having me. I'm very proud of you. Thank
Speaker 1: you for always believing. Love you too. I'm in your corner,
Speaker 1: you know this, yea. Thank you guys so much for
Speaker 1: listening to this episode. I hope you liked it. Jordan,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on my podcast that
Speaker 1: really needs a lot. Make sure you followed Jordan's on
Speaker 1: all of his socials, his instagram is at Jordan Fisher.
Speaker 1: Make sure you go and see Dear Enhancing if you
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Speaker 1: those hats. All right, you Guys'll see you next week.
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