1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, it's Sammy j and welcome to this week's episode. 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: I hope everyone's staying safe and healthy during this very 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: crazy time. So this episode is a constraction. Today, the 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: amazing Jordan Fisher is my guest. We actually recorded this 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: episode at his team's office space, and we talk about 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: everything from his love of gaming and Broadway, to opening 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: up about his childhood while winning Dancing with the Stars, 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: and so much more. Well, we didn't get a chance 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: to talk about him being in Dear of enhancent on 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: Broadway because it wasn't public yet we covered just about 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: everything else. There's also an amazing giveaway at the end 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: of this, so make sure you listen carefully. Hi guys, 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: and welcome to this week's episode. I am so excited 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: because Jordan Fisher is here. Hi. I want to tell 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: you guys why it means so much to me that 16 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: Jordan is here today. Let's go back to May. Let's 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: let's do it. I was thirteen years old. Jordan Fisher 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: was my very first professional interview. It's kind of hard 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: to believe that I was your first, Like, I can't 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: really it's hard for me to wrap my head around 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: that because you were so collected, you just think you 22 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: were so poised already. Kind of it blew my mind. Dude. 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: We were at this Zone hundred radio station and I 24 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: remember before the interview, you performed UM for like a 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: small group of like forty people, and I remember I 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: remembered you from Teen Beach movie, but I didn't really 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: know Jordan Fisher, and I remember when he started saying, 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: everyone's just jaws dropped because you sound like an angel 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: when you sing. And I'm very I am not just 30 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: saying that, like your voice check in the mill, thank you. Um, 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: your voice is just beyond words. And I just remember 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: talking to you and I I felt so comfortable and 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: just easy and it was so great, very sweet. So 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: let's fast forward to September. Jordan actually introduced me to 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: Radio Disney, and because of him, I've been working with them, 36 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: and I can say for certain that I know I 37 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't be sitting here having this podcast You're doing anything 38 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: if it weren't for you. So very very sweet. I'm 39 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: very proud of you. I actually pulled a quote from 40 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: the first interview, but I want to Okay, great, okay, 41 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: let's hear it. Quote my life right now. For the 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: next while is music. It's putting out the album, touring, 43 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: doing that whole thing, and hopefully when the right film 44 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: comes along, doing that, maybe work on Broadway for a minute, 45 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, go back on tour, put out another album, 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 1: work on another film, and go back on tour. That's 47 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: what I want to do for forever. Isn't it crazy? 48 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: It's done all that in the past three years. It's 49 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: kind of I mean, it's wild. I you know, I 50 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: never I never got around to putting out the like 51 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: the full album. UM and film really came trickling back 52 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: into my life much faster than I anticipated. And I 53 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: think a little bit it's interesting how how you have 54 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: like an idea of what you think it's going to 55 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: make you happy, and then with the lack of control 56 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: that we have in our lives, often times things just 57 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: kind of fall into place the way that they should. 58 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: You put it out there. Let's go down the timeline. 59 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: All right, You've released a me P. He's acted in movies, 60 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 1: You've been on Broadway, you one Dancing with the Star. 61 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: She became a gamer. Well I was already a gamer, yeah, 62 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: but like you became a professional. Well yeah, really dove 63 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: into it and you got engaged. You've done a lot, 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: but it's it's been it's been a heck of a 65 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: few years for sure. So which one comes easiest to 66 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: I don't know the one comes easier than the other. 67 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: I think that to maintain my ability to do all 68 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: of them, well, I have to keep working at all 69 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: of them. Well, you said on social media recently that 70 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: during the height of all of the success you felt 71 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: the most alone. Can you tell me more about that? Yeah, 72 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's an interesting it's an interesting thing, like 73 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: mental health is, uh is a very important thing to 74 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: prioritize in your life. And I think that it's really 75 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: easy to to be in the midst of the busy 76 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: and the hectic and not think about how you're actually doing. 77 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: And yes, so I was part of the November campaign 78 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: UM where mental health for men specifically is concerned and 79 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: and it's not talked about enough. It's not I think 80 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: because as men, we don't typically talk about it enough. 81 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: I think that we have a habit of of just 82 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: kind of dealing, you know, and uh, silently suffering and 83 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: like whatever it is that we're dealing with, and um, 84 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, just because of I think social stigmas. I 85 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: think that's just kind of what it is we're meant. 86 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: We feel like we're meant to be a certain type 87 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: of human man. You know, shape up, just keep your 88 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: keep your chin up, man up, buff up, do the thing. 89 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: And uh, I don't know that that's that's particularly the 90 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: healthiest thing for us. I think that we should talk 91 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: about on it and um, you know, put ourselves out there. Yeah. 92 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: I went through I went through a rough time for 93 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: years ago and when things were working really really well 94 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: for me, but I was lonely. I felt lonely, I 95 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: felt not good, I felt sad, and when I had 96 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: all of these great things to be happy about, do 97 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: you know what the change and what helped you get 98 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: through it? In particulars talking to people, I think that 99 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: I think that talking to a professional is probably always 100 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: going to be the best way to go about it. Um. 101 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: I did not do that then, But it's funny because 102 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: I'm starting to do that now, isn't it great? Yeah, 103 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm amped. And I think it's important to 104 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: work with somebody that is professionally trained and has an 105 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: education on helping people sort through their thoughts and and 106 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: be comfortable and their and their skin and happy with 107 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: their own company. I think that that's a very important 108 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: thing that we don't prioritize enough. Well, let's switch gears, 109 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: shall we. I want to talk about Dancing with the Stars. Okay, 110 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: that's in it. I just want to say to everybody 111 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: listening that I called it that you would win when 112 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: it was announced. I remember saying it to you, and 113 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: I called it everybody, this is true. Well, on the show, 114 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: you were incredibly vulnerable and open with your adoption story. 115 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: Were you ever hesitant to be that open and vulnerable 116 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: because millions of people were watching? Yeah, I think I 117 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: definitely was. It was Lindsay was my partner that that 118 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: really UM encouraged me. Oh, you know, kind of be 119 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: an open book in that way and and let people 120 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: into that side of my my life and educate people 121 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: on where I come from and you know, be um, 122 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: I guess, kind of be a beacon in that way. 123 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: And the coolest thing that came out of that was 124 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: less the catharsis of telling you know, the story and 125 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: my story and allowing people to know exactly what my 126 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: dynamic is, UM, but hearing other people's stories as well, 127 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: people coming out of the woodwork, you know, just Instagram, 128 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: d m s and Twitter and whatnot. Facebook people just saying, hey, 129 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: you know saw this thing, and you know this really 130 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: moved me and my family because I'm adopted or I 131 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: adopted two kids or whatever the thing is. And to 132 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: hear those stories was really meaningful. Okay, question where is 133 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: the mirror ball in your home? Where is it? I 134 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: have this little nook because little knowing you, like walking 135 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: to my house here in the four years, like a 136 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: parlor off to the left, but there's this nook that 137 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: right before you go down like one of the like 138 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: the first main hallway, and it's just sitting there and 139 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: I have no lights on it or anything. And we 140 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: just did a panel with rashand Jennings and they were 141 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: asking us where our mirrorbas were. And he was like, you' 142 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: got this like this glass case and it's on this 143 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: It's on my mantel in my living room and it 144 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: spins and there's like an LED light that has I 145 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: was like, wait, what I need to do that. I 146 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: need to do something like that. But when I first 147 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: won my I was renovating my house, so it was 148 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: in my bathroom for the first like five months that 149 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: I had it. You should put it on display. It's 150 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: a good conversation. So absolutely, well, now it is. It's 151 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: like one of the first think you see when you 152 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: walk amout hod So when dancing with the stars. I 153 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: am not surprised at all because you're an incredible danswer 154 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: and you've done it for quite a while. First, for 155 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: those who don't know, you played video games for basically 156 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: your entire life. Yeah, yeah, you have in a game 157 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: in my whole life. And I'm really curious to know 158 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: when did that, just the love for getting become a 159 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: part of your career. That's a great question, um, and 160 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: one that I don't think I talked about enough. So 161 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: you've heard of this this little game called Fortnite. I mean, 162 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, it sounds kind of familiar. Yeah, so 163 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: it's it's this cool little game. You know. You build 164 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: walls and ramps and roofs and things to to protect 165 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: yourself and to get reached places, and you are trying 166 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: to eliminate other players and then be the last person 167 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: standing on this bat. What do you win if you're 168 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: the last person standing? A victory royale and bragging rights. 169 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: That's what you're win. Yeah, that's what you win. Did 170 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: you ever think that you would be a professional and 171 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: you'd be paid to be playing game No. No, I 172 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: worked at game Stop when I was sixteen. I mean, like, yeah, 173 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: gaming has been a massive part of my life for 174 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: forever and very grateful for that. What do you mention 175 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: about it? It's an escape, you know, it's Um, it's 176 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: also really great opportunity to laugh and play with friends, 177 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: to talk to commune the fellowship, to encourage one another, 178 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: to joke and pick and play, and um, it is 179 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: socially one of the most rewarding things that we have, 180 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: I think, and I'm really grateful for that. I love that. 181 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: That's probably my favorite aspect of it. One of these 182 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: days you have to teach me for sure, because I 183 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: don't know how to play absolutely I got you. Okay, 184 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: What is the longest you've played for in one sitting? 185 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: Oh god? Um, fifteen or sixteen? I did a land 186 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: party at a at a buddy's house. We played. We 187 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: all brought our xboxes and like our console televisions over 188 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: to his place and connected via land and played Halo. 189 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: I think for like sixteen seventeen hours. What about recently? Recently? Um, 190 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be like a charity stream or something 191 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: that I've done that that required would have required, you know, 192 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: like a long period of time. I think eleven hours. 193 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: I think intense. It is, but you know you love 194 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: it if well, it's it takes a while to get 195 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: there because it is it's strenuous mentally to sit there 196 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: for that period of time, well in front of between 197 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: and to entertain. Yeah. Yeah, you have to recognize, like 198 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: I'm on for that for that period, I am playing 199 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: at a high level. I'm talking to the people that 200 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: I'm that I'm talking to other content creators that are 201 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: also streaming, that are also on and also entertaining, trying 202 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: to find that swing and that flow of being in 203 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: the same discord channel together, muting with the foot pedal, 204 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: and then talking to our chat as well. We've got 205 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: thousands of people that are all talking to us while 206 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: we're playing, to handle the stream, diagnostics, to handle the 207 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: transitions between scenes, and then also continue the gameplay. Go 208 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: like that. There's so much that it's a full Yeah. See, 209 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: I find this so interesting because I didn't know that. 210 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: I always thought I was just like talking to people 211 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: and playing games. Four monitors, a camera to mice, two keyboards, 212 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: two PECS classes because I already needed classes. Yeah, but 213 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: doesn't that like strain your eyes? Yeah, I mean there's 214 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: there's ways you take care of that. I'm really curious 215 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: when you started gaming, is your fan base They're different 216 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: than your fan base with your music and acting career. 217 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: When I started streaming, it was completely more so TV film, 218 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: music fans coming to watch and hang while I did 219 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: something that they weren't aware of at all and nothing 220 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: that they you know, knew about. And then as I 221 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: continued to stream into play, my fan base grew on 222 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: Twitch specifically more so for the gaming space, Like you know, 223 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: it was a bunch I have a bunch of like 224 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: gamers and my channel and again the bridging of the gap, 225 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: it's really important to me. So if my intro on 226 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: my stream, there's there's just like this awesome four minute 227 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: piece that kind of just introduces people, lets people know 228 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: like who I am, where I've come from, because the 229 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: amount of people to come in and they're like wait, 230 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: how wait, hold on now, hold on then and you know, 231 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: to be able to kind of an incredible voice, Oh 232 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: my god, can you do the rest of the Grandma Petty? 233 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: That's my Grandma Petty? Grandma Petty, she here, baby, she 234 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: got you. Okay, now let's talk acting. Yes, talk to 235 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: you about that. I know the story you've told me. 236 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: You started acting because the girl in the fifth grade 237 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: and that's when we first went to drama class. That's right. 238 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: Was there a pivotal moment when you realize, like, oh, 239 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: this is what I want to do for the rest 240 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: of my life, for the rest of my life. I 241 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: got bit by the bug for sure. I was in 242 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: fifth grade. Fell in love with it very quickly, you know, 243 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: the girl or acting, I mean acting, I mean girl, 244 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: I got the girlfriend. No, not so much. Did my 245 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: first school play, regional show, professional show, and then joined 246 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: the professional Theater Company by that December and was working. 247 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that there was like ever a moment 248 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: where I walked on the stage and had the epiphany 249 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: like it happens in films where the light bulb goes off, 250 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is because I still, you know, 251 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: worked hard and you know, academically, I was like I 252 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: was premed and I had like a I had a 253 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: backup plan and continued working on that. Actually, like while 254 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: I was working in l A on television, and it's 255 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: a very tough industry, entertainment industry. How many auditions did 256 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: you go on before you got your first role? Yeah, 257 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: I mean I spent years years just auditioning and not 258 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: booking it getting down to me and one of the 259 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: guy And that's probably the worst part. Two is that 260 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: you're so close. Every time I was was dubbed like 261 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: the King of almost. There was my my Birmingham, Alabama 262 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: was my Hometown's where I spent the better part of 263 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: my childhood. Have been here for thirteen years. But they 264 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: did this this article on me and about like traveling 265 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: back and forth and doing this whole thing Birmingham News, 266 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: and it was the title was the King of almost 267 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: It was that was me. I mean, like I wished 268 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: it was constant. It's important. It's important people recognize that 269 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: it's I mean, there's nothing luxurious about what we do. 270 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: There's nothing like long hours. Oh my god. Yeah. See 271 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't think people realize that, No, they don't. It 272 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: just all of a sudden, the movies made Yes speaking 273 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: a movie. He also just filmed another movie that some 274 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: people may have called to other boys I've loved before 275 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: and see yes that's right. PS, I still love you. 276 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: What was the process of filming, how is the audition? 277 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: How is working with thous In Tonao? It was great, 278 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: I'd see. I just finished Rent. It was literally like 279 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: the day before I finished that, I got a call 280 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: asking my availability for this film. I was like, oh wait, 281 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: I hadn't even seen it yet, and I was like, 282 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: did you see the first one of that? I had 283 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: not seen the first one at that point, and I 284 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: was like, oh wait, like I definitely have heard of it. 285 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: You know, it was a big splash. I have no 286 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: no sintennaio for a really long time. He was on 287 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: Disney too, right, he was. But we met. I don't 288 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: even remember how we met. We met their mutual friends, 289 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: like eight years ago. We've known so we've known each 290 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: other for a very long time. And I got a 291 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: call asking, you know, for my availability and if I 292 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: and if I did have the availability, if I could 293 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: get phone up to Vancouver real fast to read with 294 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: Lana got the flu, which was not fun. That was 295 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: that really sucked um. But I also watched watched the 296 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: first of all the Boys and was so enamored. There's 297 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: a whole thing with my passport. I lost my passport 298 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: in a move. I had to wake up at like 299 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: four thirty am to go down to the Federal Building 300 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,479 Speaker 1: to like stand in line in the cold with the flu, 301 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: like looking at my sides like frigid outside. Managed to 302 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: get my passport immediately hopped on a flight up to 303 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: Vancouver with the flu and like studying just got my 304 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: passports so uncomfortable, so just like in pain, got up there, landed, 305 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: slept for like five hours, woke up red with Lana, 306 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: kept my distance, and then got back on a flight, 307 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: headed back down to l A. Landed and got the 308 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: call that that I was doing it and that I 309 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: was leaving in like three days to go start filming. Wow, 310 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: you also just filmed a movie with Sabrina Carpenter and 311 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: like because she called to work it, which I am 312 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: very excited to see. What was it like filming with 313 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: Sabrina because you guys have been friends for a while, 314 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: known for a long time, known for a long time. God, 315 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: I think she was twelve or thirteen when we met, 316 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: Like it was it's been a minute, and it's interesting, 317 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: like and we we played lovers in the movie. It 318 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: was very very interesting. It was a very like and 319 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: she's like your sister, right, Like that's weird. It's an 320 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: interesting it's an interesting thing. You. I was just talking 321 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: to somebody about this recently. Like you just it goes away, 322 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: Like when you're on set and you put yourself in 323 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: the role and you are there and you're doing the 324 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: work and you're surrounded by eighty two people. You just 325 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 1: as an actor, you become used to it, right, Like 326 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: it's just one of those things. But I don't know, 327 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: it's an interesting it's an interesting concept, but it just 328 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: kind of disappears, like Jordan and Sabrina disappear, and it 329 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: becomes your character, and it becomes the characters. It really 330 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: is a beautiful film. Sabrina is great in it. Liza 331 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: Coci is, She's hysterical. It's really really wonderful. I'm e 332 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: she really is. She. I loved it. She was wonderful 333 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: and it You also were in a small show that 334 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: many people may not know, but it's called Hamilton's Okay. 335 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: I have so many questions. Was the audition process like 336 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: for Hamilton's Man, because you know I'm a huge fan. Yeah, 337 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to make anybody mad. It was a 338 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: phone call. It was I was in Nashville. I played 339 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: a show and Tommy Cale I did Grease Live with. 340 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: He was the director for Grease Live. Yeah, Tommy called me. 341 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: I was playing a show in Nashville and I got 342 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: off stage like eleven thirties midnight thirty New York time, 343 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: and he said, hey, do you have a second to chat? 344 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, what's going on? He said, 345 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: how quickly can I get you to New York? And 346 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: how long can you do the show? And I said 347 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: I can technically be there in like two days and 348 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: I can do it for like four months. And he's like, 349 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: all right, well, well, if you're down, like, let's work 350 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: towards making that happen because we need you kind of quickly. 351 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, to back to l 352 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: a film, a film, a music video, and then red 353 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: eye to New York landed, dropped all my stuff off 354 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: at the hotel and then started rehearsing. How long was 355 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: it rehearsal? The rehearsal process took like five weeks? Five weeks, 356 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: and you were just yeah, and you're learning the show 357 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: by yourself because everyone's doing right exactly. So you're learning 358 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: the show with a dance captain, you know, an associate director, 359 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: an associate mu supervisor and then yeah, and then you 360 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: run through it like once maybe twice with understudies and 361 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: covers and a couple of like the principles, and and 362 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: then like when it's your time to go, you've only 363 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: really run through the show once or twice, and you 364 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: are shoved out there like in front of an audience 365 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: that have at that time have been you know, maybe 366 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: waited two years to see the show, paid god knows 367 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: how much to get their tickets, and now you're the 368 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: one performing. You're the one doing it. That's so insane 369 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: to me. And I think there's a line in the 370 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: show that I love. It's so small of the entire 371 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: thing is incredible. It was in my shot when Lynn says, 372 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: this is not a moment, it's a movement. And I 373 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: just love that line because there's so many different layers 374 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: to the show. So like when you were performing and 375 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: it did you do you still realize those little layers 376 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:57,239 Speaker 1: throughout the show. It's a very in depth it was. 377 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: It's an incredible show. Think almost every performance, every every 378 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: time I did the show, there was something that I 379 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: would catch and be like, and it usually it was 380 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: like it was like Lynn, I can't believe there's my 381 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: favorite song is is Um NonStop? A good one? And 382 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: he's able to narrate. He's able to narrate a three 383 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: month period of one of the most one of the 384 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: most congressionally disarmed moments in American history. In the course 385 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: of like a few lines, he says corruptions such an 386 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 1: old song that we can sing along and harmony, and 387 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: nowhere is it's stronger than in Albany. This colony's economy 388 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: is increasingly stalling. And honestly, that's why public service seems 389 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: to be calling me. I practiced the law, practically perfected it. 390 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: I've seen injustice in the world, and I've corrected it 391 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: now for a strong central democracy. If not, then I'll 392 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: be Socrates throwing verbal rocks at these Mediocrates. And I 393 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: just like the rhyme, scheme, the word play, and how 394 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: it's he's able to narrate what's happening in such a 395 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: short amount of time, and just the way just when 396 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: you read it, it's you know, certain songs you can 397 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: only listen into a few times. You can I've listened 398 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: to that soundtrack hundred thousand times, and I still pick 399 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: up different things totally. Yeah, and you will continue to do. 400 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: So you are very blessed, which in that you get 401 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: to be friends with the modern day Shakespeare. It's the truth. 402 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: That's what I call him as well. He's he's he's 403 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: our Shakespeare. He is. How did you meet him? We 404 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: did a promo shoot for Greece Live before we started rehearsals, 405 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks before Thanksgiving, I think, and then 406 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: the director, you know, he just he kind of grabbed 407 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: a few of us and was like, Hey, I'm gonna 408 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: go get dinner with some friends tonight, um that are 409 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: in town working on a movie, and you know, you 410 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: guys like to come. It was me and Aaron to Fate, 411 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: Julianne Huff, I think, Vanessa, and then Tommy and then 412 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: in Walks Limo and Miranda and a huge you know 413 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: in the Heights fan and I just I've I've loved 414 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: his stuff. Bring it on, you know. Um went Chump 415 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 1: Street and he walked in. I was like, oh, so 416 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: this is who I'm having sushi with tonight. That's great, 417 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: and we met, we clicked. It was great. And then 418 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: he saw Greece when it happened, and he was he 419 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: became a fan, and I was already a fan, and 420 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: and then we became buddies. Went up. I went up 421 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: to see Hamilton's two weeks after Greece happened, a week 422 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: or two after Grease happened, like very very immediately, and 423 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: he hit me on Twitter and was like, hey, Thursday 424 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: night is Broadway Bowls Like it's so it's a there's 425 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: a Broadway Bowling League every Thursday night. He was like, 426 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: come b our Ringer. And so I went and bold 427 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: with Lynn and the rest of the Hamilton's cast at 428 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: the time after like right after I had seen them 429 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: do the show and it was awesome and and yeah, 430 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: it was an amazing, an amazing experience, and then he 431 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: and I clicked became buds, and that was it. Do 432 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: you have a favorite memory, because you guys have a 433 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: song together, which is crazy to say, Jack, do you 434 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: have a favorite memory? Which, jeez, honestly probably Like, so, 435 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing his musical on Broadway in New York, did 436 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: a Sunday mattinee, and then went straight from from the 437 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: theater to JFK, flew to London, landed through my stuff 438 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: in a hotel room, got picked up, and went straight 439 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: to set to go film the music video, and we 440 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: hung all day. We played music and laughed and watch 441 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: funny videos and played piano and like that's how we 442 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: filmed the music video. We we wrapped at like nine 443 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: pm that night, and then I went back to a 444 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: hotel and grab died like a nightcap with my manager 445 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: and slept for like four hours, and then woke up 446 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: the next morning and hopped on a flight and flew 447 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: back to New York and landed the JFK and went 448 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: straight back to the theater and did Hamilton's How did 449 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: you find out you guys were going to do the 450 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: song together? He hit me he I was actually coincidentally 451 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: on vacation in Hawaii and face he FaceTime to me, 452 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: and it's a nice surprise. It was like, hey, you 453 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: know doing this? Uh you know Mowana is happening. Blah 454 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: blah blah. I would love for you to sing like 455 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: a cover to one of the songs from the film 456 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: that will play during the end credits, as long as 457 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: I can be the featured rapper on it. Oh my god, 458 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: that's insane. It's pretty great. Well, as we talked about, 459 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: the entertainment industry is a very it's a tough industry 460 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: to be in what has been the hardest thing you've 461 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: had to overcome in it? I think the hardest battle 462 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: is satisfaction. I think that, um, are you perfectionist? Yeah, 463 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: very much. So it's important to recognize that you will 464 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: probably never be satisfied with anything. Um quote from A 465 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: Hamilton's man, Oh my god, has it ever made you 466 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: want to give up? No? No, because I recognized that 467 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm only twenty five and I still I'm still so 468 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: not um completely in touch with who I am as 469 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: a person. And it's a journey though it is very much. So. Well, 470 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: that's what I want to do with this podcast. Like 471 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: I love that you know, nothing's turned on, Like we're 472 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: just I love to get to know people. And I'm 473 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: glad that you're just being honest, you're not turning it 474 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: on and you're just telling me about everything. I think 475 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: it's important to realize that everyone's just people. Absolutely. I 476 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: love that. Al Right, So this is the point of 477 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: the show where we are going to be doing some drawing. Okay, 478 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you're good or bad. We have 479 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: some hats here. We're gonna go half on one side, 480 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: half on the other, and then we're going to switch. 481 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: At the end, we're going to sign it and a 482 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: lucky person might get it as a giveaway. Beautiful, all right, 483 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: what color do you want to go with? Firms? Start 484 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: with a nice a nice blue. Okay, I think I'm 485 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: going to go for the army green. That's mine. And 486 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: then we just go huh and I'm gonna draw a 487 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: dog on the bill of the hat. Nice. There we go. So, Joan, 488 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: what's up, girl? I have some more questions for you. 489 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: We'll hit me. What is the best advice you've ever received? Oh, 490 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: to not be so serious all the time. I should 491 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: probably listen to that. Going for an orange. It's hard. 492 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: It's hard to practice that, to be honest with you, 493 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: It really is. It's very very hard to practice not 494 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: being so serious all the time. So I'm just I'm 495 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: just kind of letting letting my hand guide me. I 496 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: respect that. Okay, I think I'm gonna go with pink 497 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: and then just kind of fill it in. UM used 498 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: on me since I was thirteen. I'm seventeen now, Isn't 499 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: that weird? It really does? But if you were my 500 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: age again, or if you were your younger self, what 501 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: would you tell your younger self, nothing at all. We 502 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: all go on our journey. You know, we learned so 503 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: much by making mistakes and by getting some bumps and 504 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: some bruises, and and I think we forget the importance 505 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: of the bar this pink again, Okay, I'm gonna go 506 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: for purple. I think I'm gonna go for some nice 507 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: ocean waves. Well, I know you've talked about talking about 508 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: this actually in our first interview. How when you put 509 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: things out in the universe they come back around. What 510 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: do you want to put out to the universe right now? Uh? Joy, 511 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: I think that happiness is really important. I like that, 512 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: I really do. I think that happiness is really important. 513 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: I think it's something that is like so overlooked. I 514 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: think it's so important to be happy. So I like 515 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: your color scheme, my friend, the purple, the what is that? 516 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: The pink? And it's real cute. Okay, I'm going back 517 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: for orange. Um. Trying to think what I want to draw. 518 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: I think I'll draw a butterfly, to draw a big eyeball, 519 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,479 Speaker 1: kind of creepy, but kind of like it. Would you 520 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: say that you're a spiritual person? Yeah? Absolutely? Are you 521 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: the end of um? Yeah? I am I think I 522 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: become more so, but I think it depends on the day. 523 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: Are you the kind of person who lives life with 524 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: having regrets or do not have any regrets in life? 525 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: We're agatting deep here, my friends, I guess we are. No. 526 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: I think that everything happens for a reason. I agree 527 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: with that completely. Again, like even the even the bumps 528 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: and the bruises that we get along the road, mistakes 529 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 1: that we make, and what I think, they're all like, 530 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: they're all formative. It's important that we experience those things. 531 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I think I agree with that everything 532 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: happens for a reason. I think for a long time 533 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: I lived my life having regrets on certain things. But 534 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: I read this quote basically saying to live your life 535 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: in the moment, and you know, regrets are something that 536 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: we put on ourselves. That and it's a waste of 537 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: time when you could be doing something better. Yeah, but yeah, 538 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: all right, on a lighter topic, what your go to playlist? 539 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: Who's on it? It's also a really good question because 540 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: it also very much depends on just like where I'm at, 541 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: I agree with that, you know what I mean? For me, 542 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: it's like very Broadway right now, really let's playlist more 543 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: an album? Okay, what album Try Hard by the band Camino? 544 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: Have you heard of the band Camino? They played Lala recently. 545 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: I became obsessed with them. What about them do you love? 546 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: So it's four guys and they have the lead guitarist 547 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: and the rhythm guitarists are are the co lead singers, 548 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: And I love that. I think that's really cool. So 549 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: the shows are always really powerful because they're not as 550 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: exhausted all the time. Um, they are a little bit 551 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: of everything. They're there, there, there. I'm a huge pop 552 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: punk guy. Um, that's most of what I've been listening 553 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 1: to lately. It's just like going back in time listening 554 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: to like Yellow Card and Green Day and Fallout Boy 555 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: and Amberlyn and Morosa. Yeah yeah, yeah, Um. And these 556 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: guys are a little bit of that, a little soul, 557 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: a little folk, a little country, a little like they're 558 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of all of that. I love. What 559 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: would you say your favorite Broadway show is of all time? 560 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: Once in this Island. I've never seen it, been obsessed 561 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: with it for forever. Would you want to be in 562 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: that show? Yes? I want to be one of the gods. 563 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: Though people are like Oh, you'd be a great Daniel. 564 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: Like Daniel's an easy, thankless role. What's the plot of it? Um? 565 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: It is a folk story from the from an island 566 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: in the French Antillies. Um, it's a it's a Romeo 567 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: and Juliette kind of story. It's really sweet. I like 568 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: shows that aren't like really happy endings, like and Dear 569 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: Van Hanson. You know he's not with Zoe, but he's himself, right, 570 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: He's happy, He's like finding joy. Yeah, I think that's 571 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: it's important. Man. Isn't it crazy that you can learn 572 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: so much about a concept within a two hour time period. Absolutely. 573 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: I think that's what's just so amazing about art. It's 574 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: so important. People see Broadway. I think it's so importan 575 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: people see live live production is nothing like live theory 576 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: work at my start, so of course i'm a little biased, 577 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: but no, but there's just something about it. Wow. Okay, 578 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm almost done here. I'm just doing a final line. 579 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: This looks kind of cool. I'm not gonna lie. Oh cool, nice, 580 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: I want to see this. Oh, I like this isn't 581 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: that cool? Okay, So let's star let's sign it in 582 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: the background here, and then I have one last question 583 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: for you, my friend. You're left handed, very left handed. 584 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: Do you know what I still have? I was organizing 585 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: through my room and do you remember the first interview 586 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: you gave out those like those cards, those like handra cards. 587 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: I still haven't you do? I'm ready beautiful. This is 588 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: I think my favor. That's it's it's pretty bad. Okay. Nice. 589 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: The final question, it's a deep one. Okay, let's hear it. 590 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: How do you want to be known and what do 591 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: you want your legacy to be? I don't know what 592 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: I want my legacy to be, but I want to 593 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: be known as somebody that does great work and is 594 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: an even better person. I think you're already doing that. Well. 595 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that well. I just want to 596 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: thank you again, Jordan for being on this podcast. Thank 597 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: you for having me. I'm very proud of you. Thank 598 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: you for always believing. Love you too. I'm in your corner, 599 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: you know this, yea. Thank you guys so much for 600 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: listening to this episode. I hope you liked it. Jordan, 601 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on my podcast that 602 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: really needs a lot. 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