Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Allie. He is Matt Williamson. This
Speaker 1: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine
Speaker 1: seventy our live ongoing coverage of Steelers training camp practices
Speaker 1: here at Saint Vincent College and this practice session winding down.
Speaker 1: But we still have one more uh competitive one, Yeah,
Speaker 1: one more competitive going on as we speak. Those at
Speaker 1: the offense and the defensive backs down at the other
Speaker 1: end of the field. You're working a little red zone
Speaker 1: nine on seven. We're getting a lot of one on ones,
Speaker 1: a lot of one on ones today.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if Manny Jones has a spot here,
Speaker 2: but I found it interesting he was just working as
Speaker 2: a as an end. I mean he was working against
Speaker 2: a tackle coming off the ball, as you know, have
Speaker 2: an edge guy, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And getting another one of those guys that has some
Speaker 1: U has some NFL playing time on his belt, that
Speaker 1: is down the depth chart with his team. Because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of them, they get a lot, I really do.
Speaker 1: That's Ryan McCullum getting some snapping here in this one.
Speaker 2: Who's he battling there? So I couldn't be I couldn't
Speaker 2: get a good view of his numbers.
Speaker 3: Like sixty six.
Speaker 1: That would be uh James, yeah, Wana, why I'm glad
Speaker 1: you said that.
Speaker 2: I don't know that it was right, but I did
Speaker 2: say it works for me. Yeah. So he's listed six five,
Speaker 2: three oh five. He doesn't look that to me. He
Speaker 2: looks stumpier, but he's a newcomer, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been with him the whole time.
Speaker 2: I believe, no has it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, that's the first time we've mentioned him.
Speaker 2: First, I've said his name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we go, okay, maybe we just avoided saying
Speaker 1: his name.
Speaker 2: I won't say it again.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, so we get a little uh here we
Speaker 1: go first down action here as they're calling this, get
Speaker 1: the ones against the ones.
Speaker 2: This is the one you're saying was move the ball.
Speaker 1: That's what it's. It's titled move the ball from four
Speaker 1: four one to four tenth. So they're a little behind
Speaker 1: schedule here, but that's okay. That gives us a little
Speaker 1: bit more.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, there's been a good long practice.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Okay, we got ones on ones and uh, who's
Speaker 1: it inside linebacker? We get Holcombe is out there? Who's
Speaker 1: he out there with? Is is it with Roberts or
Speaker 1: is he with looking here? Right, now I'm still only
Speaker 1: seeing one could be a dime. Paralys is out there though,
Speaker 1: Oh it's Parlie and her big are the outside linebacker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this isn't the true number one.
Speaker 1: D well all the defensive backs ever they are.
Speaker 2: I think that's Alexander on the second level. No, that's Roberts,
Speaker 2: that's Roberts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the snap and move of the moving the pocket.
Speaker 1: And we saw that play the other night. The pick
Speaker 1: it gets to snap and immediately takes off to his
Speaker 1: rent left.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they move, Yeah, they are moving.
Speaker 1: They're moving the moving the sticks here on the so
Speaker 1: so that's about a five year five. Yeah, which is
Speaker 1: a nice easy throw for him, and it's a nice
Speaker 1: game on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you stay ahead of the sticks. And frankly, the
Speaker 2: defense doesn't hate it either. It's kind of a neutral play. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, second and five is very manageable for the defense.
Speaker 2: Minka is really the only big dog out there from
Speaker 2: the Patricks.
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson's out.
Speaker 2: The front seven is not the front seven is not,
Speaker 2: but the secondary is the secondary and the second level
Speaker 2: is the second level.
Speaker 1: And this was a run to Naja Harris and well
Speaker 1: that got.
Speaker 2: Blown up, blown up pretty well by Roberts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Landon Roberts came probably jumping in.
Speaker 2: There, probably a negative one something like that. I think
Speaker 2: that's behind the line of scrimmage. My first contact was made.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they moved there.
Speaker 2: They gave him credit for two or three yard game there.
Speaker 2: Though this may be somewhat scripted as well. You scripted
Speaker 2: out what you you want to play? Third and three,
Speaker 2: third and medium, third and short? What do you want?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: So this is a third and two not a good
Speaker 1: situation for the defense, because no, he can do whatever.
Speaker 1: And we see nausey Harris split out to the wide
Speaker 1: or far far away from and now he comes. He
Speaker 1: motions into the backfield and takes holcom in with him
Speaker 1: scrimmage like he's gonna blitz here. So we'll see what
Speaker 1: what he does here. And he he goes out with
Speaker 1: with Harris.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was being the whole way, I guess, Oh, make.
Speaker 1: It fit Patrick going up to it looked like he
Speaker 1: was he was going to nausey here. I think he
Speaker 1: was right and makeing Fitzpatrick undercut that midway through the pass.
Speaker 1: It was only just.
Speaker 2: Totally read it and come flying across the field swatted
Speaker 2: it down. It was interesting I wanted to see Nausey
Speaker 2: in that situation because you don't see him. I know
Speaker 2: he can do it. It just hasn't occurred a lot
Speaker 2: in his heeler career. One on one with the linebacker
Speaker 2: wheel wheel route. He's discouraged too. He wanted a shot
Speaker 2: to make a play. Yeah, his ball skills are really good,
Speaker 2: and Holkom did a nice job on that.
Speaker 1: He did he initially he initially thought, you know, just
Speaker 1: thumped the right tackle, and then he saw Harris taking
Speaker 1: off out of the backfield and turned him around with him.
Speaker 2: And why I was going with that is I think
Speaker 2: Kenny's trying to throw back shoulder to Naugy like that
Speaker 2: would have been fun to see.
Speaker 1: Okay, we get the second team defense out there. Now,
Speaker 1: who's that at quarterback? Is I still pick it?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I think it's a match.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Tribiscus they get twos against twos. Here we
Speaker 1: get some motionary motion to Austin. Austin screaming across the formation.
Speaker 1: Jaylen Warren slithers through the hole. There they're gonna give him.
Speaker 1: They give them there looks like by the game of six.
Speaker 2: Okay, it looked like a good hole. But then louder
Speaker 2: Milk kind of put his hands up like, hey, I
Speaker 2: could have got him.
Speaker 1: We're gonna call that seven. That's where Marcella is marking
Speaker 1: it there, so it's be second and three here. But
Speaker 1: nice little run there.
Speaker 2: He gets good play design too, he gets skinny quick. No,
Speaker 2: you're right, does a good.
Speaker 1: Job of getting lost in the hole. He's gonna line
Speaker 1: up to Trubisky's right this time. Double receivers to the left,
Speaker 1: single receiver to his right. Get a tight end to
Speaker 1: the left side of the formation as well. There's the
Speaker 1: snap and he's looking left. Gets it out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nice to throw and catch it by Austin. That gets
Speaker 1: the first down.
Speaker 2: Well away from his body. Yep, not a bad throw either.
Speaker 1: Not if they get the first down, they're staying on
Speaker 1: the field. Trubisky in the second unit saying on the
Speaker 1: field here. He walks him up to the line, scream
Speaker 1: he's no huddle on that time.
Speaker 2: A little flip. Nice work there. Forty eight. Rochet played
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 1: Rochet did a nice shob of sniffing that out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had the motion to one side or the faked
Speaker 1: hand off to the running back, and Trubisky turned and
Speaker 1: flipped the ball to Austin who had come behind him
Speaker 1: behind the formation.
Speaker 2: Really get ahead of steam for that guy. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: now Rochet did not crash down on it.
Speaker 1: Maybe a short game there on that one. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: got maybe one or two yards and nine yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: second and eight, so he got two yards there. Now
Speaker 1: he has worn to his left in the shotgun.
Speaker 2: I might take a shot to Austin.
Speaker 1: Here we get some motion by gunner roal Chewsky from
Speaker 1: right to left. He goes to the slot on the left.
Speaker 2: Side, and safety recognized the Austin threat looking down the middle.
Speaker 2: I think they wanted to take a shot to Austin,
Speaker 2: but the safety just kept cheating, cheating, cheating at the snap.
Speaker 1: And that opened up Cody White though about fifteen yards
Speaker 1: down the field in the middle, down the seam a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 2: It worn't care by the offense.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: That takes him down another first down down to the
Speaker 1: thirty nine to Bisky.
Speaker 2: Looks like you guy, it's been around the block.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, not huddling them again. They get that motion
Speaker 1: behind the quarterback to Austin and this time he hands
Speaker 1: it off to Warren instead. Warren goes for a short game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Leo. He really got the Matt made
Speaker 2: a nice play there.
Speaker 1: The defense subbing some guys in, as is the offense here,
Speaker 1: Spencer Anderson coming off.
Speaker 2: We had a nice practice, okay.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Marshall coming on as well. Offense huddling this time.
Speaker 1: They had huddled before, so once they uh, once they
Speaker 1: get some subs in there, you might as well huddle up.
Speaker 2: Roderick Jones in there. But you got a couple of
Speaker 2: the threes mixed in.
Speaker 1: Anthony McFarlane now in the backfield behind Tribisky is under center,
Speaker 1: and he fakes the handoff and goes right down the miscommunication,
Speaker 1: misscommunication between Trubisky and boy boy Can ran a curl
Speaker 1: and uh, Trubisky threw it like it was a scene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like he was going there from the start play
Speaker 2: action boom, that's where he wanted to go.
Speaker 1: And it was single single coverage there right right.
Speaker 2: So I assume he ran the wrong route.
Speaker 1: That might be a read route.
Speaker 2: I imagine. I think it's on the fly adjustment that
Speaker 2: I'm guessing the receiver screwed up. Okayhich was awful decisive.
Speaker 1: We got third and long here. Now McFarland to Trubisky's
Speaker 1: right in the shotgun. We get some motion there. William
Speaker 1: right's left by Williams, he's like a four or five
Speaker 1: guy by.
Speaker 2: The way, I know he's he can play Oh good
Speaker 2: pass rushing big Yeah, and that goes incomplete.
Speaker 1: That's fourth down. That'll do that.
Speaker 2: I was I was watching Williams there and killibrew did
Speaker 2: a really nice job of them tied him up with
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage and screwed up his timing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's walk. We can do this with the third team.
Speaker 2: Now they're going to do let's the first team do
Speaker 2: it again. I see looks like Kenny's he's putting his
Speaker 2: helmet back. Yeah, it looks like Kenny's getting ready here.
Speaker 1: It looks like they're going to give them another shot.
Speaker 2: I like this period.
Speaker 1: They're going to start here again. At the thirty.
Speaker 2: A couple will be first down, unhappy, offensive people coming
Speaker 2: to the sidelines, kind of slow hanging their hat.
Speaker 1: It's a tough period though, because I don't know how
Speaker 1: much like Trubisky went went no huddle there a little bit,
Speaker 1: and we saw the same play twice. We just saw
Speaker 1: a different variation of that same play. Like is that
Speaker 1: how they're you know, is that an option for the
Speaker 1: quarterback is he can either hand it off to the
Speaker 1: back or he flips it to this.
Speaker 2: I assume Matt Canada is saying, tempo, temple, let's go.
Speaker 2: You know, we got them how we want to you know,
Speaker 2: I assume that that's in on the fly call, or
Speaker 2: you got the defensive personnel in the game, you wanted to.
Speaker 1: Play action at pocket. Oh nice job there by making
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick breaking. It looked like he was going to be there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pickt had time. It was a nice throw and as
Speaker 1: Patrick closed late.
Speaker 2: And just a tremendous football player in the secondary.
Speaker 1: Ksey's letting him hear about it a little bit.
Speaker 2: Maybe Kenny could have been a little earlier pulling the trigger,
Speaker 2: but the way make it closed, I'm not sure it
Speaker 2: would have mattered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he may have been reading that.
Speaker 2: He basically was a man the man with pickings. By
Speaker 2: the way, Yeah, most safeties don't succeed in that situation.
Speaker 1: Most aren't the best safety in the league. All right,
Speaker 1: So picket now in the shotgun with Nagia Harris to
Speaker 1: his left. We got trips down here to the right side,
Speaker 1: a single receiver at the top. That's Deontay Johnson motion
Speaker 1: by Harris's.
Speaker 2: Safety blitz picked up. Well, yeah, make.
Speaker 1: It coming on that one and they so they flip off.
Speaker 2: I think he ran right into a guard, but he
Speaker 2: was up. He was a singer too high for a while,
Speaker 2: and they you know, kind of pull them all to ask.
Speaker 1: Yeah, coming at the the snap there. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: him blitz a lot.
Speaker 2: No, No, he haven't. Yeah, I thought that's why it
Speaker 2: was noteworthy. I mean, it's done a lot of different stuff,
Speaker 2: but their tenure for the first team offense. I need
Speaker 2: to get Jalen Warren in there to his left, trips
Speaker 2: again to the right. See if he motions anybody this
Speaker 2: time doesn't look like it. No, he takes a snap straight. Oh,
Speaker 2: gets pressure, Yeah, but he rolls away from it.
Speaker 1: Oh past the Deontay Johnson broken up. There is that
Speaker 1: making Fitzpatrick again? Make us down here.
Speaker 2: That was Levi Wallace. Yeah, a really nice player. Good
Speaker 2: good series by the defense. Yeah, yeap.
Speaker 1: Casey's given Deontay Johnson the business are little gives him
Speaker 1: a little hugging. Johnson says, get at him. Johnson's signal
Speaker 1: is that Coach Tomlin and Mike tom walking Deontay away
Speaker 1: from the defense or the Yeah, the defense a lot,
Speaker 1: but that might have been a situation where something with
Speaker 1: dinner was.
Speaker 2: I had that feeling, you know, like push ups or lobster.
Speaker 1: Well tonight, that's where that.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't shock me if we go to dinner like, yeah.
Speaker 1: The defense is still giving it to the offense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, d one that period, that's for sure. They're letting
Speaker 2: the whole world now.
Speaker 1: They're patting themselves on the back, Mike Tom bringing the
Speaker 1: team together there and again good practice competition periods like that.
Speaker 2: Not everyone does it to that degree around the league,
Speaker 2: and it's.
Speaker 1: It's it's good natured competition.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure they're I've seen situations working pretty good.
Speaker 1: I've seen situations before where the you know, the offense
Speaker 1: and defense didn't get along.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's not in the case, especially this late
Speaker 2: in the camp.
Speaker 1: And yeah, guys are you know, tired of seeing each other,
Speaker 1: sired of hearing from the same guys. Case, He's he's
Speaker 1: a little.
Speaker 2: Little matt it's a little stinger too, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But it's all in fun and a good practice
Speaker 1: served by the Steelers here and they got it in
Speaker 1: no rain throughout the course of this practice, if it's
Speaker 1: coming or not.
Speaker 2: But it kind of looks like it.
Speaker 1: It is cloudy here. I'll tell you what. The field
Speaker 1: crew has done a great.
Speaker 2: Job, they really have. It looks like it's hardly been
Speaker 2: played on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how they've done it,
Speaker 1: because we've gotten a pretty good amount of rain over
Speaker 1: the course of this camp and then followed by yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of use and periods of sun right after
Speaker 1: that usually is bad for the grass when you get
Speaker 1: the rain and then the heat rate after it, and
Speaker 1: of course you're still cutting it. But they've done a
Speaker 1: great job of keeping this thing in shape.
Speaker 2: No, they have. It's always impressive because we go late,
Speaker 2: you know, way after practice, and the work they put
Speaker 2: in post practice every day is very impressive. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, But we're going to get to another break now.
Speaker 1: The practice is completed here at Saint Fencent College. He
Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lawley. You're listening to
Speaker 1: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy.
Speaker 1: We'll be back with more right after this.
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lallie.
Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson.
Speaker 1: This is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN
Speaker 1: nine seventy are ongoing coverage from Saint Fencing College. But
Speaker 1: the Steelers just wrapped up training camp. Practice again. You
Speaker 1: just a couple more days, Matt, for fans to make
Speaker 1: it out here. The ceilings back on the field Tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Thursday's practice is now at one fifty five pm as well.
Speaker 1: That one will be open to the public, and then
Speaker 1: that will do it for the public practices here at
Speaker 1: Saint Fencing College. Right the next time the public, the
Speaker 1: only time the public will be able to see the
Speaker 1: Steelers from that point on, will be at games right
Speaker 1: right right the rest of the season.
Speaker 2: Same with us. We have two more drives after today.
Speaker 2: Right from here, I get.
Speaker 1: To watch a lot of practices.
Speaker 2: Well, you can see a lot of practice, I know
Speaker 2: that part. But in terms of our broadcasting schedule.
Speaker 1: Broadcasting the live broadcasting from practice, that will be that
Speaker 1: will be.
Speaker 2: Ended, that will be ended after Thursday. Yes, so we've
Speaker 2: got today, the rest of the day and Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 1: Yes stuff Matt I mentioned earlier in the show the
Speaker 1: Steelers making some roster moves. They are not alone.
Speaker 2: We saw it.
Speaker 1: We've seen some movement here in the running back markets.
Speaker 1: A couple of days here, Dalvin Cook signing with the Jets.
Speaker 1: I think he got eight million dollars.
Speaker 2: He's got a legit deal, yeah, like starter money, right.
Speaker 1: And then we saw Ezekiel Elliott sign with the Patriots
Speaker 1: at I believe four million dollars.
Speaker 2: I didn't see his Okay, that sounds about right. Cook's
Speaker 2: worth more than Zeke at this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but those two veteran running backs now off the market.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they're concerned about Breese Hall.
Speaker 1: Obviously, they actually activated Hall to the Pulpless today today,
Speaker 1: but it's the same time that they signed Dalvin Cook. Figure.
Speaker 2: So the way I heard that expected to go is
Speaker 2: hopefully from their standpoint is they hope Cook's the guy
Speaker 2: right from the start, ease haul into it. But the
Speaker 2: way they're framing it, or the way you know New
Speaker 2: York media is framing it, is this is a team
Speaker 2: that plans on playing seventeen regular season games and quite
Speaker 2: a few playoff games, and you know who knows if
Speaker 2: that happens or not. I also heard Rogers influence his
Speaker 2: decision quite a bit. You know, he had reworked his
Speaker 2: contract recently played against Cook twice a year in the
Speaker 2: NFC North, you know, year after year after year.
Speaker 1: So Aaron Aaron Rodgers is essentially their GM now. It
Speaker 1: sure seems that way.
Speaker 2: I mean, Ascalizard and Randall Cobb and all the guys
Speaker 2: that have added with him. But it's another weapon. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know that it is a huge indictment that
Speaker 2: Hall won't be a big time player this year, but
Speaker 2: it's not a great sign for him, and it's a
Speaker 2: good landing spot for Cook.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think it makes them a better team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I think I feel better about
Speaker 1: where the Jets are at right now than I do
Speaker 1: the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: They're a lot deeper. Yeah, They're definitely a lot deeper.
Speaker 2: And I think they have a better quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about it last week. So Cam
Speaker 1: Smith there, the cornerback who they were expecting to take
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey's while he is out injured his shoulder at
Speaker 1: training camp. Now, so now you're down two of your
Speaker 1: top three cornerbacks. That was their first round draft pick
Speaker 1: this year. They're right back to square one at the
Speaker 1: defensive backs. Yeah, yeah, second, and that looked like a
Speaker 1: real depth area.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was gonna be Howard and Ramsey Smith
Speaker 2: they could bring along slow and then Smith got thrust
Speaker 2: into the mix. Have you heard how bad the shoulder is.
Speaker 1: At least two weeks with the shoulder.
Speaker 2: Okay, so he's questionable for the sort of season. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I understand. Yeah, And you know they're pass rush and
Speaker 2: is gonna be key. That's not gonna be a huge
Speaker 2: Bulitz defense like he used to be. I mean, a
Speaker 2: big scheme change. With Fangio taking over, they basically, even
Speaker 2: though Flora is left and obviously was here last year,
Speaker 2: they kept his system last year with one of his assistants,
Speaker 2: so they're learning a lot on the fly. And Thoughts
Speaker 2: Corner was gonna be a huge week or strength, now
Speaker 2: we'll see. I mean it definitely. Ramsey's not gonna be around.
Speaker 2: We know that. And you know I do like where
Speaker 2: the Jets trap better than Miami the more I think
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just feel, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: see three teams coming out of that division this year.
Speaker 2: I don't either. Does the Zeke thing change your mind
Speaker 2: at all about New England?
Speaker 1: Me? Neither.
Speaker 2: I think he's pretty washed.
Speaker 1: So in fact, somebody tweeted out their their skill guys. Oh,
Speaker 1: I've really upgraded their skill guys, have they.
Speaker 2: That's I think it's like bottom six or seven skill
Speaker 2: guys in the league. Yeah, I mean to me, it's
Speaker 2: still Stevenson and everybody else in that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're still counting on DeVante Parker and
Speaker 1: guys like that.
Speaker 2: Right, right, with all respect to Juju, he's not a one, right,
Speaker 2: you know, it's shick.
Speaker 1: He got hurt yesterday and yeah that's a separated shoulder.
Speaker 1: He's out for a while.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much you've paid the attention to
Speaker 2: Taekwon Thornton. It was their second round pick last year.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of talk that he might not even
Speaker 2: make the team. Drafting wide receivers again, brutal. I mean
Speaker 2: to put in perspective, like he was a second round
Speaker 2: pick last year. He runs like a four to two
Speaker 2: thin dude. So they rested in the preseason their first
Speaker 2: three receivers and Thornton still is the third re season,
Speaker 2: you know. So I mean with three guys out of
Speaker 2: the mix and two receiver sets, he wasn't even out there,
Speaker 2: you know. So there's not even really a youngster to
Speaker 2: say ready to grab and take it. Take a hold
Speaker 2: of things. I mean, their defense looks great, but I'm
Speaker 2: with you. I don't think three teams come out of
Speaker 2: that division. And if I'm the Bills, sure these teams
Speaker 2: look more frightening than they have been. But I still
Speaker 2: feel pretty confident I'm the best team in the East.
Speaker 1: Yeah I do too. Yeah, I think they're the most
Speaker 1: I mean they're a veteran team. I think they're a
Speaker 1: complete team. You know, it's just they get the best quarterback.
Speaker 2: They get the best quarterback. They have the I don't
Speaker 2: know if I say the best defense, but a really
Speaker 2: good defense. Get Von Miller back. I mean that goes
Speaker 2: a long way as well. Ken Kaid's look good. I
Speaker 2: mean I'm kind of interested to watch him against Steelers two.
Speaker 2: I still think their other receivers are so so looks
Speaker 2: like Shakiir's taken over as the third guy. I think
Speaker 2: you and I both are really high on him. When
Speaker 2: he came out of school. I was shocked he fell
Speaker 2: as long as they did.
Speaker 1: I've heard different reports. I've heard he's not the third
Speaker 1: guy in Buffalo really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hasty was the one that they had a lot
Speaker 2: of hope for.
Speaker 1: It's not him either. It's a it's a veteran guy.
Speaker 1: Let me let me get the Bills depth chart. We'll
Speaker 1: talk more about them as wos.
Speaker 2: On Yeah, right right. Dave Davis is the two, which
Speaker 2: I think he's an overrated guy, but.
Speaker 1: It's been from what I saw and what they started
Speaker 1: in the last game, Trent Sherfield is actually.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, okay, interesting because Shakir played put up numbers
Speaker 2: in this past game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sherfield again, you know who do they who they trust?
Speaker 1: You know who they trust in that spot? They they
Speaker 1: lost all their slot guys from last year, and I
Speaker 1: think I think we all just assumed that, you know that, well,
Speaker 1: in the second year, you would expect that Shakiro would
Speaker 1: move into that spot. Yeah, Sherfield started the last game.
Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna be yeah, without question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, uh, that's gonna be a good challenge for
Speaker 1: the Steelers on Saturday against the Buffalo Bills. Again, a
Speaker 1: team that, uh, you know, everybody expects to be in
Speaker 1: content at least.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a top four team in any power ranking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would think that they're gonna they're gonna be
Speaker 1: in contention, not just to win that division, but probably
Speaker 1: right being contention to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Saw what they did to the Steelers in the regular
Speaker 2: season last year too, Yeah, it wasn't pretty. So I
Speaker 2: am looking forward to that game quite a bit. And
Speaker 2: the depth too. I mean, I still think third and
Speaker 2: fourth quarter stuff that we're gonna see from the Steeler
Speaker 2: team is pretty favorable. I mean, it's gonna be a
Speaker 2: nice test for a Steeler row line early. I don't
Speaker 2: know if we'll see von Miller, but they got a
Speaker 2: lot of first round picks, big money guys on the
Speaker 2: defensive line. They haven't quite got that money out of them.
Speaker 2: But I definitely think they're the two best divisions in
Speaker 2: the league, the AFC North and in East.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be tough, I mean do Okay, So
Speaker 1: if we don't think more than two teams come out
Speaker 1: of the East, do more than two teams come out
Speaker 1: of the AFC North.
Speaker 2: I think it just depends what you think of the Chargers.
Speaker 2: If the Chargers are a playoff team, well drives up
Speaker 2: pretty quick. Yeah, right, I tend to think they are
Speaker 2: the Chargers, but you could still get two in the
Speaker 2: North to in the East to in the West. I
Speaker 2: don't think anyone thinks too in the South is in.
Speaker 1: The car No, I don't think. I don't think there's two.
Speaker 2: So I don't see Denver the Raiders as a playoff team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really. To me again, I can't get past
Speaker 1: I'm not in on the Ravens this year. As you know,
Speaker 1: I think that you know that the playoff spot, the
Speaker 1: you know, potential playoff spot in the AFC North. I
Speaker 1: think right now it's still the everybody's saying the Bengals
Speaker 1: are still the best team in.
Speaker 2: The North, and as it stands right now, I think
Speaker 2: they are.
Speaker 1: Things can change things.
Speaker 2: I also throw injuries still looming.
Speaker 1: It comes down to Steelers versus Browns, and.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're pretty you seem pretty confident that you're
Speaker 2: gonna put the Ravens forth in your final predictions. I am, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm still kicking it around. But their defense really worries.
Speaker 2: It's very concerned.
Speaker 3: More.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sold on their offensive line being ready
Speaker 1: to do what they want to do.
Speaker 2: This year, even you know, I think that's part of
Speaker 2: much different responsibilities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna go there, going from being a fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty run pass team to potentially being more conventional
Speaker 1: you know, sixty to forty past the run.
Speaker 2: And having red and a second and third tight end
Speaker 2: help you all the time too, and you know coming
Speaker 2: forward all the time. Yeah, I could see the line.
Speaker 2: That's one of the lines. And we've talked about this
Speaker 2: that when you see these O line rankings, they're often
Speaker 2: well above the Steelers and that one doesn't compute to me.
Speaker 2: And I don't get it. I get the Browns. I
Speaker 2: mean it's a good line. I think it's a declining
Speaker 2: line slowly. I think the Bengals will put a lot
Speaker 2: into their line, but it's probably average. I would take
Speaker 2: the Steelers line over the Bengals.
Speaker 1: So the right now, the Browns are practicing against the
Speaker 1: Eagles this week. Oh are they getting ready for their
Speaker 1: preseason game? Okay, yesterday defensive end Miles Garrett left with
Speaker 1: a foot in Yeah. Sure, Jack Conklin has a possible concussion,
Speaker 1: and Denzel Ward suffering from an illness.
Speaker 2: He left practice early as well. So who knows what
Speaker 2: that means. But I saw Miles Garrett came out and
Speaker 2: was signing in signing for kids and stuff after. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but he left practice in his fare foot Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know he's not putting a shoe on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think the Browns are very I
Speaker 1: think if you look at their starting lineup, you go, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. But I don't know that they have
Speaker 1: any depth anywhere.
Speaker 2: No, it's not great. He mentioned Conklin with the concussion possibly.
Speaker 2: I don't know how long he hangs on either. He's
Speaker 2: kind of put together with you know, duck duct tape
Speaker 2: and yeah, wire, you know, I mean they I could
Speaker 2: see Dwad Jones end up being the right tackle sooner
Speaker 2: than later.
Speaker 1: They put James Hudson in to replace him when he Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a third round draft pick a couple of years.
Speaker 1: He's ahead of j on the death chart right now.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll see about day one. Jones, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's a massive human being and I think he's better
Speaker 1: than File who happens right, right, But I didn't get
Speaker 1: to see enough of them at the Senior Bowl. Like
Speaker 1: he had a good day in the first day of
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and then just shut it down.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was all agent driven. Yeah, like, and it's
Speaker 2: funny is I liked him coming out, But I've also
Speaker 2: heard he likes basketball a lot more than he likes football,
Speaker 2: and you know, doesn't love the training aspect and likes food.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and what's interesting about the Senior Bowl? And
Speaker 2: good for him, it's a good move. But if you
Speaker 2: watch the Senior Bowl practice, for whatever reason, every rep
Speaker 2: he took, the opponents tried to go right down the
Speaker 2: middle of him, like they didn't make him change directions.
Speaker 1: I get this, the biggest man out here, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to rush him, the bull rush him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure that these guys don't do a
Speaker 2: lot of you know, gearing up for the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 2: You may not even know the tackles you're going against.
Speaker 2: But just look at the human being. I mean, he
Speaker 2: makes all these big guys look tiny, Like, why am
Speaker 2: I going right right down the middle of them? They
Speaker 2: did time and time again. So he just shuts it
Speaker 2: down and says, I have a little injury. I'm going home.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, Yeah, I walked out mic drop. You
Speaker 2: know it worked that perfect for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's gonna be interesting. I think in the
Speaker 1: AFC North it's gonna be a blast.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I think the entire AFC playoff race is going to
Speaker 1: be interesting this year. You can't have the stumbles. No, right, right,
Speaker 1: and you just can't. From week to week every game
Speaker 1: is going to be important.
Speaker 2: They just are. They are. And again we've brought this
Speaker 2: up numerous times. The AFC schedule for the Steelers is
Speaker 2: quite favorable. Yeah, I think that's a huge advantage that
Speaker 2: some of these other teams that we're talking about for
Speaker 2: playoff spots don't have.
Speaker 1: No, I agree as well. I mean, you know, if
Speaker 1: you just look at the Browns schedule as opposed to
Speaker 1: the Steelers schedule, you think, oh, it can't be that different.
Speaker 2: A couple of games that are different.
Speaker 1: Looking here at their at their non conference schedule, who
Speaker 1: they play versus who the Steelers play, and that matches
Speaker 1: up for them. They have to go to Denver. When
Speaker 1: is that November twenty.
Speaker 2: At least it's not early in the season for them,
Speaker 2: but yeah, that's still a tough place to play. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of Denver.
Speaker 1: What's the other game they got to play? Chicago December seventeenth.
Speaker 2: Which could be a mucket up kind of game for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean that could be a perfect game for Justin
Speaker 1: Field to go run around, you know in the Cleveland slop.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we've seen it where the game was
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. They're both the sloppiest fields in the league.
Speaker 1: We've seen some of those games in recent years in
Speaker 1: Cleveland that where it's.
Speaker 2: Just, yeah, sometimes the weather is not advantaged.
Speaker 1: You can't throw the football at all.
Speaker 2: No, right, right, right. And obviously they're a very good
Speaker 2: running team, and Watson's a good runner as well, but
Speaker 2: sometimes the weather in Cleveland late works as an equalizer.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're already now they're more talented team than
Speaker 2: the Bears. But if Miles Garrett can't get off the ball,
Speaker 2: and when all of a sudden, you.
Speaker 1: Know you've got a running quarterback, and okay, we're just
Speaker 1: gonna not even try to throw the ball. We're gonna
Speaker 1: Austin fields just follow blockers left right.
Speaker 2: You would think the Bears would love them. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's bad conditioning.
Speaker 1: That's how the Bears beat San Francisco last year. And yeah,
Speaker 1: that monsoon. Yeah right, So we'll see. Anyway, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to another break here. When we come back. We
Speaker 1: are going to hear from Spencer Anderson the interview with
Speaker 1: him earlier. He is Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lallie
Speaker 1: you're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio
Speaker 1: and ESPN nine seventies.
Speaker 2: Oh by the way, Dale, I need some help for
Speaker 2: our fantasy focus. I need some help. I'll tell people
Speaker 2: about it later. Okay, all right, we'll get to that, lad,
Speaker 2: all right, yes, but we're gonna take a break down.
Speaker 2: We'll be back with more right after this. Welcome back.
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lollie. He is Matt Williamson. We are live
Speaker 1: from Steelers training camp here at Saint Pensive College where
Speaker 1: the Steelers I just finished up their practice session a
Speaker 1: little bit ago and earlier today had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: catch up with Steelers rookie offensive lineman. And I say
Speaker 1: offensive lineman because.
Speaker 2: It's a broad brush.
Speaker 1: Yeah, broad brush. He has played every position on the
Speaker 1: offensive line at some point or another, Uh, including a
Speaker 1: lot of center today.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: So let's hear from Spencer Anderson about how his transition
Speaker 1: is going here.
Speaker 2: He said, they basically you've played every spot on the
Speaker 2: offensive line out here, but not so much as center.
Speaker 2: You said, you got you a few snaps at center
Speaker 2: here and there, because they feel like that's they know
Speaker 2: you're comfortable there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, is it tough like when you find out each.
Speaker 3: Day where they want you to line up.
Speaker 1: I just hey, Anderson in there, Anderson in there.
Speaker 4: It's usually like a you know, probam. When you get
Speaker 4: out there, it's like you're gonna be here.
Speaker 3: Good, you can be there today?
Speaker 4: Or is it you know sometimes just you know, I'm
Speaker 4: thinking I'm in one spot and then uh, you know,
Speaker 4: I'll be repping the hold day like left tackle to say,
Speaker 4: and then you know I'll be going in that right
Speaker 4: guard before then.
Speaker 3: So it's like you got these two right guard, you
Speaker 3: get the next four left tackle.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's cool, men, But even like today, I was
Speaker 4: told I'll probably be a center today. So I was like, Cools,
Speaker 4: cool with me, and you know, just got to get
Speaker 4: my feet high and uh be ready whenever I can.
Speaker 2: He said, there says a lot about you, your ability
Speaker 2: to do that and not just do it okay, four
Speaker 2: reps here, three reps over there, Like the ability to
Speaker 2: do all that in the same practice that that's a
Speaker 2: that's a skill.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just uh just everything's flipped in your head.
Speaker 3: You just kind of just kind of gotta, you know,
Speaker 3: just just keep.
Speaker 4: Your feet high and be ready. You know, obviously you know,
Speaker 4: Center being more more of a talk. Now i'm'a have
Speaker 4: to uh you know, start locking in on you know,
Speaker 4: protection and uh id in and stuff like that, which
Speaker 4: I mean, I've been paying attention cause I'm I kind
Speaker 4: of envisioned this was gonna happen, and uh so I
Speaker 4: was kind of, you know, just showing up on my
Speaker 4: protection rules and stuff like that, making sure everybody's on
Speaker 4: the same page that way. You know, when I do
Speaker 4: go to Center, it doesn't it's not like, alright, you know, it.
Speaker 3: Was your first day. I get it.
Speaker 4: You know you're gonna have to mess up to whatever,
Speaker 4: but you know, I kind of wanna have it have
Speaker 4: a strong grip of it when I first get out there.
Speaker 2: Turn so about doing that in the game though, did
Speaker 2: they tell you before you win you play three different.
Speaker 3: Sponsor the game?
Speaker 1: Right? Did they tell you you're gonna play three different sponsor?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Pat had told me right before the game.
Speaker 4: He's like, hey, He's like, second quarter, I'm looking to
Speaker 4: get you inside first.
Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, cool. So I went
Speaker 3: in inside first and I was like all right cool.
Speaker 4: And then he was like, I mean, rep you was
Speaker 4: how many drives you had to tackle, and I was like, nah,
Speaker 4: just do a right guard for three drives. And he's like,
Speaker 4: he's like, all right, he said, take a driver and tackle.
Speaker 3: Alright, Like let's do it. And then that was doing
Speaker 3: the same drive that I was through the bomb.
Speaker 4: Calverny and then uh, you know, he's like, I mean,
Speaker 4: I mean drives, you had a tackle.
Speaker 3: I was like I had one. He's like, all right,
Speaker 3: let's go out there like whatever.
Speaker 4: I mean, whatever the play is called. So I'm running
Speaker 4: not like I can. I'm not gonna complain about it.
Speaker 2: So that where do you feel like you're the best at.
Speaker 4: Though I probably say like righting, Uh, everybody pat.
Speaker 3: Asks me the same thing. It's just it depends on.
Speaker 4: The play car you know, obviously, if you're going against
Speaker 4: you know, the the premier pass questions of the league
Speaker 4: and you know, the tjs of the world.
Speaker 3: You know, I'd I'd rather be inside. But you know,
Speaker 3: if only again this can, I'd rather be outside. So
Speaker 3: it all depends on the play called. I don't really have.
Speaker 4: Any preference, like I said before, as long as it's
Speaker 4: on the field, it's cause it's fine with me. As
Speaker 4: long as it's on the team final with me. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm kind of had to adjust that throughout my college career.
Speaker 4: You know, some guys or right uh position limiteds P
Speaker 4: positions specific and you know, I don't wanna come out
Speaker 4: in the field, or you know, we might only have
Speaker 4: uh a backup guard that can only play guard, and
Speaker 4: you know, and say how the followers, you know you
Speaker 4: starting right guard. It's like, alright, no, i'm'a i'm'a pump
Speaker 4: out cause I'm like, I don't wanna. I don't wanna
Speaker 4: be out because you know, our our next best player availabley.
Speaker 3: Is a guard.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, you know, I just bump out the
Speaker 4: time of So I just look at it the same way.
Speaker 3: I mean and Maryland we would.
Speaker 4: Have to some center troubles or nobody else wanted to
Speaker 4: snap the ball or whatever.
Speaker 3: The case was. And I'm like think, like h Spence
Speaker 3: heard you can snap. I'm like, oh really, I'm like
Speaker 3: he where'd you hear that from?
Speaker 4: You know, obviously I was a little hessitant at first
Speaker 4: in college, but it needed to be done, and yeah,
Speaker 4: it was best for the team.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I was told, you know, first gear I had was
Speaker 4: against Penn State playing center, and uh, it was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: cause they had some guy they they're TAngelo or something
Speaker 4: like that was supposed to be like their their guy.
Speaker 3: We didn't wanna. We wanted to show up the inside.
Speaker 3: And I was just kind of like alright. They were like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll move you back to Targoo next week.
Speaker 4: And playing Michigan. I'm like, hey, I got to eight
Speaker 4: and hundred center in the job or the next thing,
Speaker 4: you know, it was like, man, it looks so good
Speaker 4: at singing.
Speaker 3: Might supna keep it there? I'm like, oh, so, you know.
Speaker 4: Like I said, you know, just getting out of myself
Speaker 4: and getting into the team. It's pretty much it. It's
Speaker 4: just having a good knowledge of the playbook, cause not
Speaker 4: everybody can do that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: You kind of when you learn the Playbok and you
Speaker 4: have the calls, they're like, alright, I know where to do.
Speaker 3: With my Tiger.
Speaker 4: I know, like I know some siffic calls here and
Speaker 4: there they're at tagh. But then you don't always know.
Speaker 4: I mean, even some guys on.
Speaker 3: The team now and it's like a play is called
Speaker 3: if they were to move some positions, like I asked something.
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, so I let me play at card.
Speaker 4: They be like, bro, I couldn't couldn't tell you. So
Speaker 4: I got to know the whole time playbook like the
Speaker 4: back of my hand, and I just feel like it's
Speaker 4: more of a challenge.
Speaker 2: And I'm winning an Except they've had some guys here
Speaker 2: over the years who in the role, in that kind
Speaker 2: of role where they've been the backup all along and
Speaker 2: that for a.
Speaker 3: Couple of years, they end up.
Speaker 1: Kelvin Beacham started.
Speaker 2: That way, Chris Ubert started that way, Matt Finler started
Speaker 2: that way where they were the backup.
Speaker 3: So along next thing, you know, that's how that's how
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Somebody like, uh, during the right pre draft.
Speaker 4: Process, somebody had told me, you know, you remind me
Speaker 4: a lot of Kelvin Beacham. And you know, me being
Speaker 4: a football nerd who got one of these scouts is like, Paly.
Speaker 3: You know who it is.
Speaker 4: I'm like, of course, I know it's playing for the
Speaker 4: car because I'm like, because I'm just a football nerd.
Speaker 3: I know a lot of guys and uh yeah, and
Speaker 3: I'm you.
Speaker 4: Know, and I go look back at obviously I don't
Speaker 4: know that career trajectory, but I know of him, so
Speaker 4: you know, I look back and I'm like, oh wow,
Speaker 4: like this, but literally had the same.
Speaker 3: You know kind of profile, and it's like, you know.
Speaker 2: If I mean Beach was a seven dround pickers, but
Speaker 2: he was like a third to last pick in the draft.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's still playing. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So sometimes you just gotta uh, you know, ride the
Speaker 4: way before the for the storm calms. And like I said,
Speaker 4: it's just been light on my feet and doing whatever's
Speaker 4: asking me because at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 4: all football.
Speaker 2: The rarity about what you're doing, though it is usually
Speaker 2: a good guy. They can play he could play four spots,
Speaker 2: but he can't play left tackle, or should play four spots,
Speaker 2: he can't play center.
Speaker 1: You've done them all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, Dan was uh uh. Every time somebody says that,
Speaker 3: I just think it with Dan and told me he's.
Speaker 4: Like, you know, playing right tackle him it was like
Speaker 4: wiping his wiping the butt in his leven and I'm
Speaker 4: just thinking.
Speaker 3: Like, that's kind of how it is.
Speaker 4: And it's just like I said, everything's just flipping in
Speaker 4: your head and you just kind of gotta uh reverse everything.
Speaker 4: So I know the other day I had that falls start.
Speaker 4: It's because I'm sitting there, you know, in the huddle.
Speaker 4: I heard, you know, the cadence wasn't.
Speaker 3: On the first hunt. I'm like, okay, cool, But I
Speaker 3: get up to the line and obviously my mind explodes
Speaker 3: cause I'm.
Speaker 4: Like way way hiddle, Like you know, everything's different, cause
Speaker 4: you know it did all line. You have to be
Speaker 4: technically sound, and you know switching stances can alter you know,
Speaker 4: cause you're like everything's backwards to your mind, Like if
Speaker 4: you're on the right side, you know, punch my right
Speaker 4: hand then left, and.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta switch it up. It's what I mean,
Speaker 3: it's the NFL. You can't do the same things over
Speaker 3: and over.
Speaker 4: Right, So obviously you know you're like, wait, how did
Speaker 4: I How do I change my setup on the opposite side?
Speaker 4: And then said hut and you're like, oh, oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: It's like, man, you didn't even you forgot I got.
Speaker 4: The whole candence. But you know I'm making any excuses.
Speaker 4: That's what comes with the job, and uh, you know
Speaker 4: that just gotta be better in most cases like that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like I said, just be hot on my feet, ready
Speaker 4: to go, because at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 4: all football, no matter whole position you're at, it's all
Speaker 4: offensive line work.
Speaker 3: Obviously, who you're going against.
Speaker 4: Is different, you know, body type wise, but in the day,
Speaker 4: the objective is to move a guy at a spot or
Speaker 4: protect the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Good stuff there from Steelers Really Spencer Anderson a good
Speaker 1: head on his shoulders and understand time exactly what's being
Speaker 1: asked of him.
Speaker 2: Gonna be a light on your feet. I mean, he
Speaker 2: doesn't no play to play snap the snap, you know,
Speaker 2: game the game where he's gonna line up. But he's
Speaker 2: been one of my favorite stories guys to talk about
Speaker 2: during camp for sure, and I didn't think it was
Speaker 2: a throwaway pick at the time, but I didn't expect
Speaker 2: him to be in, you know, in the mix, and
Speaker 2: he's in the mix.
Speaker 1: He's definitely in the mix. And keep an eye on
Speaker 1: him in Saturday's game, just to keep it as Matt
Speaker 1: and I have done here throughout training camp. Watch and
Speaker 1: see where he lines up at during the game and
Speaker 1: different from different from series to series. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: to a break here. He is Matt Williamson, I am
Speaker 1: Dale Lawlly. You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers
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