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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Allie. He is Matt Williamson. This

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Speaker 1: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine

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Speaker 1: seventy our live ongoing coverage of Steelers training camp practices

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Speaker 1: here at Saint Vincent College and this practice session winding down.

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Speaker 1: But we still have one more uh competitive one, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one more competitive going on as we speak. Those at

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Speaker 1: the offense and the defensive backs down at the other

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Speaker 1: end of the field. You're working a little red zone

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Speaker 1: nine on seven. We're getting a lot of one on ones,

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Speaker 1: a lot of one on ones today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if Manny Jones has a spot here,

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Speaker 2: but I found it interesting he was just working as

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Speaker 2: a as an end. I mean he was working against

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Speaker 2: a tackle coming off the ball, as you know, have

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Speaker 2: an edge guy, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And getting another one of those guys that has some

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Speaker 1: U has some NFL playing time on his belt, that

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Speaker 1: is down the depth chart with his team. Because there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of them, they get a lot, I really do.

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Speaker 1: That's Ryan McCullum getting some snapping here in this one.

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Speaker 2: Who's he battling there? So I couldn't be I couldn't

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Speaker 2: get a good view of his numbers.

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Speaker 3: Like sixty six.

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Speaker 1: That would be uh James, yeah, Wana, why I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you said that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that it was right, but I did

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Speaker 2: say it works for me. Yeah. So he's listed six five,

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Speaker 2: three oh five. He doesn't look that to me. He

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Speaker 2: looks stumpier, but he's a newcomer, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been with him the whole time.

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Speaker 2: I believe, no has it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, that's the first time we've mentioned him.

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Speaker 2: First, I've said his name.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we go, okay, maybe we just avoided saying

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Speaker 1: his name.

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Speaker 2: I won't say it again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, so we get a little uh here we

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Speaker 1: go first down action here as they're calling this, get

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Speaker 1: the ones against the ones.

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Speaker 2: This is the one you're saying was move the ball.

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Speaker 1: That's what it's. It's titled move the ball from four

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Speaker 1: four one to four tenth. So they're a little behind

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Speaker 1: schedule here, but that's okay. That gives us a little

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Speaker 1: bit more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, there's been a good long practice.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Okay, we got ones on ones and uh, who's

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Speaker 1: it inside linebacker? We get Holcombe is out there? Who's

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Speaker 1: he out there with? Is is it with Roberts or

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Speaker 1: is he with looking here? Right, now I'm still only

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Speaker 1: seeing one could be a dime. Paralys is out there though,

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Speaker 1: Oh it's Parlie and her big are the outside linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this isn't the true number one.

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Speaker 1: D well all the defensive backs ever they are.

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Speaker 2: I think that's Alexander on the second level. No, that's Roberts,

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Speaker 2: that's Roberts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the snap and move of the moving the pocket.

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Speaker 1: And we saw that play the other night. The pick

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Speaker 1: it gets to snap and immediately takes off to his

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Speaker 1: rent left.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they move, Yeah, they are moving.

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Speaker 1: They're moving the moving the sticks here on the so

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Speaker 1: so that's about a five year five. Yeah, which is

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Speaker 1: a nice easy throw for him, and it's a nice

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Speaker 1: game on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you stay ahead of the sticks. And frankly, the

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Speaker 2: defense doesn't hate it either. It's kind of a neutral play. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, second and five is very manageable for the defense.

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Speaker 2: Minka is really the only big dog out there from

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Speaker 2: the Patricks.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson's out.

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Speaker 2: The front seven is not the front seven is not,

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Speaker 2: but the secondary is the secondary and the second level

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Speaker 1: And this was a run to Naja Harris and well

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Speaker 1: that got.

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Speaker 2: Blown up, blown up pretty well by Roberts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Landon Roberts came probably jumping in.

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Speaker 2: There, probably a negative one something like that. I think

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Speaker 2: that's behind the line of scrimmage. My first contact was made.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they moved there.

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Speaker 2: They gave him credit for two or three yard game there.

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Speaker 2: Though this may be somewhat scripted as well. You scripted

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Speaker 2: out what you you want to play? Third and three,

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Speaker 2: third and medium, third and short? What do you want?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: So this is a third and two not a good

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Speaker 1: And we see nausey Harris split out to the wide

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Speaker 1: or far far away from and now he comes. He

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Speaker 1: motions into the backfield and takes holcom in with him

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Speaker 1: scrimmage like he's gonna blitz here. So we'll see what

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Speaker 1: what he does here. And he he goes out with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was being the whole way, I guess, Oh, make.

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Speaker 1: It fit Patrick going up to it looked like he

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Speaker 1: was he was going to nausey here. I think he

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Speaker 1: was right and makeing Fitzpatrick undercut that midway through the pass.

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Speaker 1: It was only just.

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Speaker 2: Totally read it and come flying across the field swatted

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Speaker 2: it down. It was interesting I wanted to see Nausey

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Speaker 2: in that situation because you don't see him. I know

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Speaker 2: he can do it. It just hasn't occurred a lot

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Speaker 2: in his heeler career. One on one with the linebacker

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Speaker 2: wheel wheel route. He's discouraged too. He wanted a shot

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Speaker 2: to make a play. Yeah, his ball skills are really good,

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Speaker 2: and Holkom did a nice job on that.

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Speaker 1: He did he initially he initially thought, you know, just

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Speaker 1: thumped the right tackle, and then he saw Harris taking

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Speaker 2: And why I was going with that is I think

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Speaker 2: Kenny's trying to throw back shoulder to Naugy like that

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Speaker 2: would have been fun to see.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we get the second team defense out there. Now,

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Speaker 1: who's that at quarterback? Is I still pick it?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: I think it's a match.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Tribiscus they get twos against twos. Here we

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Speaker 1: get some motionary motion to Austin. Austin screaming across the formation.

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Speaker 1: Jaylen Warren slithers through the hole. There they're gonna give him.

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Speaker 1: They give them there looks like by the game of six.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it looked like a good hole. But then louder

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Speaker 2: Milk kind of put his hands up like, hey, I

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Speaker 2: could have got him.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna call that seven. That's where Marcella is marking

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Speaker 1: it there, so it's be second and three here. But

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Speaker 1: nice little run there.

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Speaker 2: He gets good play design too, he gets skinny quick. No,

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Speaker 1: Job of getting lost in the hole. He's gonna line

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Speaker 1: up to Trubisky's right this time. Double receivers to the left,

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Speaker 1: the left side of the formation as well. There's the

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Speaker 1: snap and he's looking left. Gets it out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: nice to throw and catch it by Austin. That gets

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Speaker 2: Well away from his body. Yep, not a bad throw either.

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Speaker 1: Not if they get the first down, they're staying on

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Speaker 1: the field. Trubisky in the second unit saying on the

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Speaker 1: field here. He walks him up to the line, scream

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Speaker 1: he's no huddle on that time.

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Speaker 2: A little flip. Nice work there. Forty eight. Rochet played

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Speaker 1: Rochet did a nice shob of sniffing that out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had the motion to one side or the faked

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Speaker 1: hand off to the running back, and Trubisky turned and

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Speaker 1: flipped the ball to Austin who had come behind him

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Speaker 2: Really get ahead of steam for that guy. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: now Rochet did not crash down on it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a short game there on that one. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: got maybe one or two yards and nine yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: second and eight, so he got two yards there. Now

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Speaker 1: he has worn to his left in the shotgun.

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Speaker 2: I might take a shot to Austin.

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Speaker 1: Here we get some motion by gunner roal Chewsky from

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Speaker 1: right to left. He goes to the slot on the left.

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Speaker 2: Side, and safety recognized the Austin threat looking down the middle.

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Speaker 2: I think they wanted to take a shot to Austin,

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Speaker 2: but the safety just kept cheating, cheating, cheating at the snap.

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Speaker 1: And that opened up Cody White though about fifteen yards

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Speaker 1: down the field in the middle, down the seam a

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Speaker 2: It worn't care by the offense.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: That takes him down another first down down to the

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Speaker 1: thirty nine to Bisky.

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Speaker 2: Looks like you guy, it's been around the block.

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Speaker 1: Yeah again, not huddling them again. They get that motion

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Speaker 1: behind the quarterback to Austin and this time he hands

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Speaker 1: it off to Warren instead. Warren goes for a short game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Leo. He really got the Matt made

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Speaker 2: a nice play there.

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Speaker 1: The defense subbing some guys in, as is the offense here,

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Speaker 2: We had a nice practice, okay.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Marshall coming on as well. Offense huddling this time.

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Speaker 1: They had huddled before, so once they uh, once they

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Speaker 1: get some subs in there, you might as well huddle up.

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Speaker 2: Roderick Jones in there. But you got a couple of

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Speaker 2: the threes mixed in.

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Speaker 1: Anthony McFarlane now in the backfield behind Tribisky is under center,

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Speaker 1: and he fakes the handoff and goes right down the miscommunication,

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Speaker 1: misscommunication between Trubisky and boy boy Can ran a curl

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Speaker 1: and uh, Trubisky threw it like it was a scene.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like he was going there from the start play

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Speaker 2: action boom, that's where he wanted to go.

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Speaker 1: And it was single single coverage there right right.

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Speaker 2: So I assume he ran the wrong route.

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Speaker 1: That might be a read route.

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Speaker 2: I imagine. I think it's on the fly adjustment that

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing the receiver screwed up. Okayhich was awful decisive.

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Speaker 1: We got third and long here. Now McFarland to Trubisky's

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Speaker 1: right in the shotgun. We get some motion there. William

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Speaker 1: right's left by Williams, he's like a four or five

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Speaker 2: The way, I know he's he can play Oh good

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Speaker 2: pass rushing big Yeah, and that goes incomplete.

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Speaker 1: That's fourth down. That'll do that.

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Speaker 2: I was I was watching Williams there and killibrew did

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Speaker 2: a really nice job of them tied him up with

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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage and screwed up his timing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's walk. We can do this with the third team.

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Speaker 2: Now they're going to do let's the first team do

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Speaker 2: it again. I see looks like Kenny's he's putting his

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Speaker 2: helmet back. Yeah, it looks like Kenny's getting ready here.

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Speaker 1: It looks like they're going to give them another shot.

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Speaker 2: I like this period.

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Speaker 1: They're going to start here again. At the thirty.

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Speaker 2: A couple will be first down, unhappy, offensive people coming

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Speaker 2: to the sidelines, kind of slow hanging their hat.

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Speaker 1: It's a tough period though, because I don't know how

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Speaker 1: much like Trubisky went went no huddle there a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and we saw the same play twice. We just saw

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Speaker 1: a different variation of that same play. Like is that

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Speaker 1: how they're you know, is that an option for the

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Speaker 1: quarterback is he can either hand it off to the

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Speaker 1: back or he flips it to this.

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Speaker 2: I assume Matt Canada is saying, tempo, temple, let's go.

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Speaker 2: You know, we got them how we want to you know,

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Speaker 2: I assume that that's in on the fly call, or

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, But we're going to get to another break now.

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Speaker 1: The practice is completed here at Saint Fencent College. He

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Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lawley. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lallie.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN

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Speaker 1: nine seventy are ongoing coverage from Saint Fencing College. But

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Speaker 1: the Steelers just wrapped up training camp. Practice again. You

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Speaker 1: just a couple more days, Matt, for fans to make

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Speaker 1: it out here. The ceilings back on the field Tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Thursday's practice is now at one fifty five pm as well.

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Speaker 1: That one will be open to the public, and then

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Speaker 2: Same with us. We have two more drives after today.

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Speaker 1: To watch a lot of practices.

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Speaker 1: Yes stuff Matt I mentioned earlier in the show the

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Speaker 2: We saw it.

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Speaker 1: We've seen some movement here in the running back markets.

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Speaker 2: They're a lot deeper. Yeah, They're definitely a lot deeper.

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Speaker 2: like Shakiir's taken over as the third guy. I think

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Speaker 2: you and I both are really high on him. When

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Speaker 2: he came out of school. I was shocked he fell

444
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Speaker 2: as long as they did.

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Speaker 1: I've heard different reports. I've heard he's not the third

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Speaker 1: guy in Buffalo really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hasty was the one that they had a lot

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Speaker 2: of hope for.

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Speaker 1: It's not him either. It's a it's a veteran guy.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me get the Bills depth chart. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk more about them as wos.

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Speaker 2: On Yeah, right right. Dave Davis is the two, which

453
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Speaker 2: I think he's an overrated guy, but.

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Speaker 1: It's been from what I saw and what they started

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Speaker 1: in the last game, Trent Sherfield is actually.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, okay, interesting because Shakir played put up numbers

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Speaker 2: in this past game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sherfield again, you know who do they who they trust?

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Speaker 1: You know who they trust in that spot? They they

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Speaker 1: lost all their slot guys from last year, and I

461
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Speaker 1: think I think we all just assumed that, you know that, well,

462
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Speaker 1: in the second year, you would expect that Shakiro would

463
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Speaker 1: move into that spot. Yeah, Sherfield started the last game.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna be yeah, without question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, uh, that's gonna be a good challenge for

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Speaker 1: the Steelers on Saturday against the Buffalo Bills. Again, a

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Speaker 1: team that, uh, you know, everybody expects to be in

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Speaker 1: content at least.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a top four team in any power ranking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you would think that they're gonna they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: in contention, not just to win that division, but probably

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Speaker 1: right being contention to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Saw what they did to the Steelers in the regular

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Speaker 2: season last year too, Yeah, it wasn't pretty. So I

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Speaker 2: am looking forward to that game quite a bit. And

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Speaker 2: the depth too. I mean, I still think third and

477
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Speaker 2: fourth quarter stuff that we're gonna see from the Steeler

478
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Speaker 2: team is pretty favorable. I mean, it's gonna be a

479
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Speaker 2: nice test for a Steeler row line early. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if we'll see von Miller, but they got a

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Speaker 2: lot of first round picks, big money guys on the

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Speaker 2: defensive line. They haven't quite got that money out of them.

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Speaker 2: But I definitely think they're the two best divisions in

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Speaker 2: the league, the AFC North and in East.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be tough, I mean do Okay, So

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Speaker 1: if we don't think more than two teams come out

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Speaker 1: of the East, do more than two teams come out

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Speaker 1: of the AFC North.

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Speaker 2: I think it just depends what you think of the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: If the Chargers are a playoff team, well drives up

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Speaker 2: pretty quick. Yeah, right, I tend to think they are

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Speaker 2: the Chargers, but you could still get two in the

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Speaker 2: North to in the East to in the West. I

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Speaker 2: don't think anyone thinks too in the South is in.

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Speaker 1: The car No, I don't think. I don't think there's two.

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Speaker 2: So I don't see Denver the Raiders as a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really. To me again, I can't get past

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Speaker 1: I'm not in on the Ravens this year. As you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that you know that the playoff spot, the

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Speaker 1: you know, potential playoff spot in the AFC North. I

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Speaker 1: think right now it's still the everybody's saying the Bengals

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Speaker 1: are still the best team in.

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Speaker 2: The North, and as it stands right now, I think

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Speaker 2: they are.

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Speaker 1: Things can change things.

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Speaker 2: I also throw injuries still looming.

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Speaker 1: It comes down to Steelers versus Browns, and.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're pretty you seem pretty confident that you're

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Speaker 2: gonna put the Ravens forth in your final predictions. I am, okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm still kicking it around. But their defense really worries.

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Speaker 2: It's very concerned.

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Speaker 3: More.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sold on their offensive line being ready

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Speaker 1: to do what they want to do.

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Speaker 2: This year, even you know, I think that's part of

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Speaker 2: much different responsibilities.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna go there, going from being a fifty

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Speaker 1: to fifty run pass team to potentially being more conventional

519
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Speaker 1: you know, sixty to forty past the run.

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Speaker 2: And having red and a second and third tight end

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Speaker 2: help you all the time too, and you know coming

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Speaker 2: forward all the time. Yeah, I could see the line.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the lines. And we've talked about this

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Speaker 2: that when you see these O line rankings, they're often

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Speaker 2: well above the Steelers and that one doesn't compute to me.

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Speaker 2: And I don't get it. I get the Browns. I

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Speaker 2: mean it's a good line. I think it's a declining

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Speaker 2: line slowly. I think the Bengals will put a lot

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Speaker 2: into their line, but it's probably average. I would take

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Speaker 2: the Steelers line over the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: So the right now, the Browns are practicing against the

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Speaker 1: Eagles this week. Oh are they getting ready for their

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Speaker 1: preseason game? Okay, yesterday defensive end Miles Garrett left with

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Speaker 1: a foot in Yeah. Sure, Jack Conklin has a possible concussion,

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Speaker 1: and Denzel Ward suffering from an illness.

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Speaker 2: He left practice early as well. So who knows what

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Speaker 2: that means. But I saw Miles Garrett came out and

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Speaker 2: was signing in signing for kids and stuff after. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but he left practice in his fare foot Yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know he's not putting a shoe on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think the Browns are very I

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Speaker 1: think if you look at their starting lineup, you go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good. But I don't know that they have

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Speaker 1: any depth anywhere.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not great. He mentioned Conklin with the concussion possibly.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how long he hangs on either. He's

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Speaker 2: kind of put together with you know, duck duct tape

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Speaker 2: and yeah, wire, you know, I mean they I could

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Speaker 2: see Dwad Jones end up being the right tackle sooner

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Speaker 2: than later.

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Speaker 1: They put James Hudson in to replace him when he Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a third round draft pick a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: He's ahead of j on the death chart right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll see about day one. Jones, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He's a massive human being and I think he's better

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Speaker 1: than File who happens right, right, But I didn't get

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Speaker 1: to see enough of them at the Senior Bowl. Like

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Speaker 1: he had a good day in the first day of

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and then just shut it down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that was all agent driven. Yeah, like, and it's

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Speaker 2: funny is I liked him coming out, But I've also

562
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Speaker 2: heard he likes basketball a lot more than he likes football,

563
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Speaker 2: and you know, doesn't love the training aspect and likes food.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and what's interesting about the Senior Bowl? And

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Speaker 2: good for him, it's a good move. But if you

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Speaker 2: watch the Senior Bowl practice, for whatever reason, every rep

567
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Speaker 2: he took, the opponents tried to go right down the

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Speaker 2: middle of him, like they didn't make him change directions.

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Speaker 1: I get this, the biggest man out here, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: try to rush him, the bull rush him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure that these guys don't do a

572
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Speaker 2: lot of you know, gearing up for the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: You may not even know the tackles you're going against.

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Speaker 2: But just look at the human being. I mean, he

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Speaker 2: makes all these big guys look tiny, Like, why am

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Speaker 2: I going right right down the middle of them? They

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Speaker 2: did time and time again. So he just shuts it

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Speaker 2: down and says, I have a little injury. I'm going home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know, Yeah, I walked out mic drop. You

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Speaker 2: know it worked that perfect for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's gonna be interesting. I think in the

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Speaker 1: AFC North it's gonna be a blast.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think the entire AFC playoff race is going to

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Speaker 1: be interesting this year. You can't have the stumbles. No, right, right,

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Speaker 1: and you just can't. From week to week every game

587
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Speaker 1: is going to be important.

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Speaker 2: They just are. They are. And again we've brought this

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Speaker 2: up numerous times. The AFC schedule for the Steelers is

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Speaker 2: quite favorable. Yeah, I think that's a huge advantage that

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Speaker 2: some of these other teams that we're talking about for

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Speaker 2: playoff spots don't have.

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Speaker 1: No, I agree as well. I mean, you know, if

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Speaker 1: you just look at the Browns schedule as opposed to

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Speaker 1: the Steelers schedule, you think, oh, it can't be that different.

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Speaker 2: A couple of games that are different.

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Speaker 1: Looking here at their at their non conference schedule, who

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Speaker 1: they play versus who the Steelers play, and that matches

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Speaker 1: up for them. They have to go to Denver. When

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Speaker 1: is that November twenty.

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Speaker 2: At least it's not early in the season for them,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, that's still a tough place to play. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of Denver.

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Speaker 1: What's the other game they got to play? Chicago December seventeenth.

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Speaker 2: Which could be a mucket up kind of game for sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean that could be a perfect game for Justin

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Speaker 1: Field to go run around, you know in the Cleveland slop.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we've seen it where the game was

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. They're both the sloppiest fields in the league.

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Speaker 1: We've seen some of those games in recent years in

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Speaker 1: Cleveland that where it's.

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Speaker 2: Just, yeah, sometimes the weather is not advantaged.

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Speaker 1: You can't throw the football at all.

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Speaker 2: No, right, right, right. And obviously they're a very good

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Speaker 2: running team, and Watson's a good runner as well, but

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Speaker 2: sometimes the weather in Cleveland late works as an equalizer.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're already now they're more talented team than

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Speaker 2: the Bears. But if Miles Garrett can't get off the ball,

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Speaker 2: and when all of a sudden, you.

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Speaker 1: Know you've got a running quarterback, and okay, we're just

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Speaker 1: gonna not even try to throw the ball. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: Austin fields just follow blockers left right.

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Speaker 2: You would think the Bears would love them. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's bad conditioning.

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Speaker 1: That's how the Bears beat San Francisco last year. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: that monsoon. Yeah right, So we'll see. Anyway, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to another break here. When we come back. We

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Speaker 1: are going to hear from Spencer Anderson the interview with

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Speaker 1: him earlier. He is Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lallie

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Speaker 1: you're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 1: and ESPN nine seventies.

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Speaker 2: Oh by the way, Dale, I need some help for

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Speaker 2: our fantasy focus. I need some help. I'll tell people

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Speaker 2: about it later. Okay, all right, we'll get to that, lad,

635
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Speaker 2: all right, yes, but we're gonna take a break down.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with more right after this. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lollie. He is Matt Williamson. We are live

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Speaker 1: from Steelers training camp here at Saint Pensive College where

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Speaker 1: the Steelers I just finished up their practice session a

640
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Speaker 1: little bit ago and earlier today had an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: catch up with Steelers rookie offensive lineman. And I say

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman because.

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Speaker 2: It's a broad brush.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, broad brush. He has played every position on the

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Speaker 1: offensive line at some point or another, Uh, including a

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Speaker 1: lot of center today.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: So let's hear from Spencer Anderson about how his transition

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Speaker 1: is going here.

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Speaker 2: He said, they basically you've played every spot on the

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Speaker 2: offensive line out here, but not so much as center.

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Speaker 2: You said, you got you a few snaps at center

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Speaker 2: here and there, because they feel like that's they know

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Speaker 2: you're comfortable there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, is it tough like when you find out each.

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Speaker 3: Day where they want you to line up.

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Speaker 1: I just hey, Anderson in there, Anderson in there.

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Speaker 4: It's usually like a you know, probam. When you get

660
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 4: out there, it's like you're gonna be here.

661
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: Good, you can be there today?

662
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 4: Or is it you know sometimes just you know, I'm

663
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 4: thinking I'm in one spot and then uh, you know,

664
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 4: I'll be repping the hold day like left tackle to say,

665
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 4: and then you know I'll be going in that right

666
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 4: guard before then.

667
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: So it's like you got these two right guard, you

668
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: get the next four left tackle.

669
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: Okay, that's cool, men, But even like today, I was

670
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 4: told I'll probably be a center today. So I was like, Cools,

671
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 4: cool with me, and you know, just got to get

672
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 4: my feet high and uh be ready whenever I can.

673
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: He said, there says a lot about you, your ability

674
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: to do that and not just do it okay, four

675
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: reps here, three reps over there, Like the ability to

676
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: do all that in the same practice that that's a

677
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: that's a skill.

678
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just uh just everything's flipped in your head.

679
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 3: You just kind of just kind of gotta, you know,

680
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: just just keep.

681
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 4: Your feet high and be ready. You know, obviously you know,

682
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 4: Center being more more of a talk. Now i'm'a have

683
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 4: to uh you know, start locking in on you know,

684
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 4: protection and uh id in and stuff like that, which

685
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I've been paying attention cause I'm I kind

686
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: of envisioned this was gonna happen, and uh so I

687
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 4: was kind of, you know, just showing up on my

688
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 4: protection rules and stuff like that, making sure everybody's on

689
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 4: the same page that way. You know, when I do

690
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 4: go to Center, it doesn't it's not like, alright, you know, it.

691
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: Was your first day. I get it.

692
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: You know you're gonna have to mess up to whatever,

693
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 4: but you know, I kind of wanna have it have

694
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 4: a strong grip of it when I first get out there.

695
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,239
Speaker 2: Turn so about doing that in the game though, did

696
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: they tell you before you win you play three different.

697
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: Sponsor the game?

698
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: Right? Did they tell you you're gonna play three different sponsor?

699
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Pat had told me right before the game.

700
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 4: He's like, hey, He's like, second quarter, I'm looking to

701
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 4: get you inside first.

702
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, cool. So I went

703
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: in inside first and I was like all right cool.

704
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 4: And then he was like, I mean, rep you was

705
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 4: how many drives you had to tackle, and I was like, nah,

706
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 4: just do a right guard for three drives. And he's like,

707
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 4: he's like, all right, he said, take a driver and tackle.

708
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: Alright, Like let's do it. And then that was doing

709
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: the same drive that I was through the bomb.

710
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 4: Calverny and then uh, you know, he's like, I mean,

711
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 4: I mean drives, you had a tackle.

712
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: I was like I had one. He's like, all right,

713
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: let's go out there like whatever.

714
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 4: I mean, whatever the play is called. So I'm running

715
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 4: not like I can. I'm not gonna complain about it.

716
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: So that where do you feel like you're the best at.

717
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 4: Though I probably say like righting, Uh, everybody pat.

718
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: Asks me the same thing. It's just it depends on.

719
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 4: The play car you know, obviously, if you're going against

720
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 4: you know, the the premier pass questions of the league

721
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 4: and you know, the tjs of the world.

722
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: You know, I'd I'd rather be inside. But you know,

723
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: if only again this can, I'd rather be outside. So

724
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 3: it all depends on the play called. I don't really have.

725
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 4: Any preference, like I said before, as long as it's

726
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 4: on the field, it's cause it's fine with me. As

727
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 4: long as it's on the team final with me. You know,

728
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 4: I'm kind of had to adjust that throughout my college career.

729
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 4: You know, some guys or right uh position limiteds P

730
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 4: positions specific and you know, I don't wanna come out

731
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 4: in the field, or you know, we might only have

732
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 4: uh a backup guard that can only play guard, and

733
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 4: you know, and say how the followers, you know you

734
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 4: starting right guard. It's like, alright, no, i'm'a i'm'a pump

735
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: out cause I'm like, I don't wanna. I don't wanna

736
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 4: be out because you know, our our next best player availabley.

737
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: Is a guard.

738
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 4: So I'm like, you know, I just bump out the

739
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 4: time of So I just look at it the same way.

740
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: I mean and Maryland we would.

741
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: Have to some center troubles or nobody else wanted to

742
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 4: snap the ball or whatever.

743
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: The case was. And I'm like think, like h Spence

744
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: heard you can snap. I'm like, oh really, I'm like

745
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: he where'd you hear that from?

746
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: You know, obviously I was a little hessitant at first

747
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: in college, but it needed to be done, and yeah,

748
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 4: it was best for the team.

749
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: You know.

750
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: I was told, you know, first gear I had was

751
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 4: against Penn State playing center, and uh, it was like, yeah,

752
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: cause they had some guy they they're TAngelo or something

753
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 4: like that was supposed to be like their their guy.

754
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: We didn't wanna. We wanted to show up the inside.

755
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: And I was just kind of like alright. They were like, yeah,

756
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: we'll move you back to Targoo next week.

757
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 4: And playing Michigan. I'm like, hey, I got to eight

758
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 4: and hundred center in the job or the next thing,

759
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 4: you know, it was like, man, it looks so good

760
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 4: at singing.

761
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: Might supna keep it there? I'm like, oh, so, you know.

762
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 4: Like I said, you know, just getting out of myself

763
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 4: and getting into the team. It's pretty much it. It's

764
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 4: just having a good knowledge of the playbook, cause not

765
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: everybody can do that.

766
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: You know.

767
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 4: You kind of when you learn the Playbok and you

768
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 4: have the calls, they're like, alright, I know where to do.

769
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: With my Tiger.

770
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 4: I know, like I know some siffic calls here and

771
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 4: there they're at tagh. But then you don't always know.

772
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 4: I mean, even some guys on.

773
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: The team now and it's like a play is called

774
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 3: if they were to move some positions, like I asked something.

775
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, so I let me play at card.

776
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 4: They be like, bro, I couldn't couldn't tell you. So

777
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 4: I got to know the whole time playbook like the

778
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 4: back of my hand, and I just feel like it's

779
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 4: more of a challenge.

780
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: And I'm winning an Except they've had some guys here

781
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 2: over the years who in the role, in that kind

782
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: of role where they've been the backup all along and

783
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: that for a.

784
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: Couple of years, they end up.

785
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: Kelvin Beacham started.

786
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 2: That way, Chris Ubert started that way, Matt Finler started

787
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: that way where they were the backup.

788
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 3: So along next thing, you know, that's how that's how

789
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: it is.

790
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

791
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: Somebody like, uh, during the right pre draft.

792
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 4: Process, somebody had told me, you know, you remind me

793
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 4: a lot of Kelvin Beacham. And you know, me being

794
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 4: a football nerd who got one of these scouts is like, Paly.

795
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: You know who it is.

796
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, of course, I know it's playing for the

797
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 4: car because I'm like, because I'm just a football nerd.

798
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: I know a lot of guys and uh yeah, and

799
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 3: I'm you.

800
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 4: Know, and I go look back at obviously I don't

801
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 4: know that career trajectory, but I know of him, so

802
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 4: you know, I look back and I'm like, oh wow,

803
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: like this, but literally had the same.

804
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: You know kind of profile, and it's like, you know.

805
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: If I mean Beach was a seven dround pickers, but

806
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: he was like a third to last pick in the draft.

807
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's still playing. Yeah.

808
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 4: So sometimes you just gotta uh, you know, ride the

809
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 4: way before the for the storm calms. And like I said,

810
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 4: it's just been light on my feet and doing whatever's

811
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 4: asking me because at the end of the day, it's

812
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 4: all football.

813
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: The rarity about what you're doing, though it is usually

814
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: a good guy. They can play he could play four spots,

815
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: but he can't play left tackle, or should play four spots,

816
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: he can't play center.

817
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: You've done them all.

818
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, Dan was uh uh. Every time somebody says that,

819
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 3: I just think it with Dan and told me he's.

820
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 4: Like, you know, playing right tackle him it was like

821
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 4: wiping his wiping the butt in his leven and I'm

822
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 4: just thinking.

823
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 3: Like, that's kind of how it is.

824
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 4: And it's just like I said, everything's just flipping in

825
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 4: your head and you just kind of gotta uh reverse everything.

826
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 4: So I know the other day I had that falls start.

827
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: It's because I'm sitting there, you know, in the huddle.

828
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 4: I heard, you know, the cadence wasn't.

829
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 3: On the first hunt. I'm like, okay, cool, But I

830
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 3: get up to the line and obviously my mind explodes

831
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: cause I'm.

832
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 4: Like way way hiddle, Like you know, everything's different, cause

833
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: you know it did all line. You have to be

834
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 4: technically sound, and you know switching stances can alter you know,

835
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 4: cause you're like everything's backwards to your mind, Like if

836
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 4: you're on the right side, you know, punch my right

837
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 4: hand then left, and.

838
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta switch it up. It's what I mean,

839
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 3: it's the NFL. You can't do the same things over

840
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: and over.

841
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 4: Right, So obviously you know you're like, wait, how did

842
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 4: I How do I change my setup on the opposite side?

843
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 4: And then said hut and you're like, oh, oh my goodness.

844
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 3: It's like, man, you didn't even you forgot I got.

845
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: The whole candence. But you know I'm making any excuses.

846
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: That's what comes with the job, and uh, you know

847
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 4: that just gotta be better in most cases like that. Yeah,

848
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 4: like I said, just be hot on my feet, ready

849
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 4: to go, because at the end of the day, it's

850
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 4: all football, no matter whole position you're at, it's all

851
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 4: offensive line work.

852
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 3: Obviously, who you're going against.

853
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 4: Is different, you know, body type wise, but in the day,

854
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 4: the objective is to move a guy at a spot or

855
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 4: protect the quarterbacks.

856
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: Good stuff there from Steelers Really Spencer Anderson a good

857
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: head on his shoulders and understand time exactly what's being

858
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: asked of him.

859
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: Gonna be a light on your feet. I mean, he

860
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: doesn't no play to play snap the snap, you know,

861
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: game the game where he's gonna line up. But he's

862
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: been one of my favorite stories guys to talk about

863
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: during camp for sure, and I didn't think it was

864
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: a throwaway pick at the time, but I didn't expect

865
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: him to be in, you know, in the mix, and

866
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 2: he's in the mix.

867
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: He's definitely in the mix. And keep an eye on

868
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: him in Saturday's game, just to keep it as Matt

869
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: and I have done here throughout training camp. Watch and

870
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: see where he lines up at during the game and

871
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: different from different from series to series. We're gonna get

872
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: to a break here. He is Matt Williamson, I am

873
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: Dale Lawlly. You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers

874
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,840
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875
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: coverage from Steelers training camp here at Saint Fincent College.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with our number three right after this.

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Speaker 2: Black and gold called Lives Here twenty four seven. You're

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