WEBVTT - SYMHC Classics: George Wallace

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Saturday. This week, when we talked about the Camden

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight we mentioned that there was a George Wallace

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<v Speaker 1>campaign rally during that trial. Today, George Wallace is better

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<v Speaker 1>known for his time as governor of Alabama, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the time he was running for president. Our episode on

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<v Speaker 1>George Wallace originally came out on November twenty ninth, twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is Today's Saturday Classic. Welcome to Stuff You

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<v Speaker 1>Missed in History Class, a production of iHeartRadio. Hello, and

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the podcast. I'm Tray CV Wilson, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Holly Frye. Over the past few years, Holly, you and

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<v Speaker 1>I have talked about a number of prominent figures and

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<v Speaker 1>moments in the civil rights movement. That is correct. So

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about people like Rosa Parks and bired Rustin,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've talked about Supreme Court decisions like Brown versus

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<v Speaker 1>Board and Loving versus for Time, organizations like the Brotherhood

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<v Speaker 1>of Sleeping Car Porters. But other than talking sort of

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<v Speaker 1>obliquely about the laws and practices and social systems that

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<v Speaker 1>have enforced segregation and discrimination in the United States, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as talking about some specific incidents of racist violence

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<v Speaker 1>like the destruction of the Greenwood District in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>We've never really talked a lot about the opposition to

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<v Speaker 1>that movement, So today we are talking about one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most prominent voices against the civil rights movement and

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<v Speaker 1>its objectives, Alabama Governor George Wallace, who spent multiple campaigns

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<v Speaker 1>to both governor and president on an explicitly pro segregation platform.

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<v Speaker 1>In his nineteen sixty three inaugural addresses Governor of Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>he famously proclaimed segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be talking about violent retaliation against the

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<v Speaker 1>civil rights civil rights movement that happened during his terms

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<v Speaker 1>in office. And we're also going to be talking a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about his first wife, Lurline. He was married other times,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're not really getting into that at all, but

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<v Speaker 1>are going to talk about Lurline, whose own story is

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<v Speaker 1>both tied directly to her husband's political career and includes

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty disturbing account of medical neglect. So George Corley Wallace,

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<v Speaker 1>Junior was born on August twenty fifth of nineteen nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>in southeastern Alabama, where his father was a farmer. His

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<v Speaker 1>political career started very early, at the age of fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>when he served as a government page at the Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>State Capitol and made up his mind to return one

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<v Speaker 1>day as governor. In his high school years, he was

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<v Speaker 1>also a boxer, winning two state titles in that sport.

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<v Speaker 1>Wallace studied at the University of Alabama, paying his tuition

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<v Speaker 1>by waiting tables and boxing. He graduated in nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven and then finished his law degree in nineteen forty two.

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<v Speaker 1>That same year, at the age of twenty four, he

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<v Speaker 1>met Lurline Burns, who was then sixteen, while she was

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<v Speaker 1>working at a five and dime in Tuscaloosa. She had

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<v Speaker 1>graduated from high school early, and she was working there

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<v Speaker 1>to try to save up money to go to nursing school.

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<v Speaker 1>George was already very interested in politics, something that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really interest Lurline at all, but they quickly became inseparable.

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<v Speaker 1>Not long after they met, Wallace was inducted into the

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<v Speaker 1>US Army Air Corps to serve in World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>He and Lerleine got married on May twenty first of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty three, while he was on leave after having

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<v Speaker 1>contracted meningitis. They spent their honeymoon in a friend's guest room.

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<v Speaker 1>Although George spent a lot of his time out talking politics.

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<v Speaker 1>While he was still stateside, Leerleine traveled back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>between her parents' home in Alabama and the air bases

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<v Speaker 1>where he was stationed. This included a trip to New Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>which she made with their five month old daughter, Bobby Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>only to find that George had not arranged housing for

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<v Speaker 1>them on the base. They wound up needing to stay

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<v Speaker 1>in a converted chicken. Soon a Georgia b stationed in

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<v Speaker 1>the Pacific, where he flew incendiary missions over Japan until

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<v Speaker 1>being medically discharged for severe anxiety in nineteen forty five.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen forty six, he started actively pursuing a political career.

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<v Speaker 1>He became assistant to the state attorney General, and in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty seven he was elected to the Alabama State

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<v Speaker 1>Legislature as representative for the first of his two terms.

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<v Speaker 1>During his campaign, Lerlin was the family's sole breadwinner. He

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<v Speaker 1>was elected a judge for the Third Judicial Court in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty three, a position that he retained until nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty eight, and this job came with enough income for

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<v Speaker 1>him to buy a home for the family. Up until

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<v Speaker 1>this point, they had been living in a variety of

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<v Speaker 1>rented rooms and garage apartments, and his nickname became Fighting

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<v Speaker 1>Little Judge, both for his toughness from the bench and

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<v Speaker 1>his former time as a boxer while he was in school.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the same time, he and Lerlein had two more children,

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<v Speaker 1>Peggy Sue born in nineteen fifty and George Corley Wallace

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<v Speaker 1>the third known as George Junior, in nineteen fifty one,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lurline was increasingly frustrated by her husband's devotion to politics,

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<v Speaker 1>often to the neglect of his family. At this point

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<v Speaker 1>in his career, people were calling George Wallace quote a

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous liberal. He was part of charismatic Governor Big Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Fulsom's re election campaign in nineteen fifty three. Fulsom was

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<v Speaker 1>also Wallace's mentor, and in later years would be described

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<v Speaker 1>as being way ahead of his time in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>social progress and racial equality. Fulsom's positions during his career

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<v Speaker 1>included things like voting rights for black people, an end

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<v Speaker 1>to prison labor, better schools, funding for roads to make

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<v Speaker 1>it easier for farmers to get their crops to market,

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<v Speaker 1>and more government positions for women. Much of this, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>was an uphill battle and ultimately failed. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Wallace's policies in the earlier part of his career mostly

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<v Speaker 1>mirrored Fulsom's. During his two terms in the state legislature,

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<v Speaker 1>he drafted legislation to promote vocational schools and attract manufacturing

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<v Speaker 1>jobs to Alabama. In nineteen forty eight, when pro segregation

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<v Speaker 1>Dixiecrats walked out of the Democratic National Convention, both Wallace

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<v Speaker 1>and Fulsom stayed put. While in office in the State

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<v Speaker 1>House of Representatives, Wallace sponsored a bill that taxed alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>to fund trade schools. The Wallace Act, which was signed

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen fifty one and was half of what became

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<v Speaker 1>known as the Wallace Cater Acts, allowed municipalities to sell

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<v Speaker 1>bonds in order to fund industrial development. This was part

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<v Speaker 1>of an effort to bring jobs to Alabama and diversify

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<v Speaker 1>the state's economy. Critics called the Wallace Cater Acts socialistic.

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<v Speaker 1>Another criticism was that most of the industries that moved

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<v Speaker 1>into Alabama through the act's incentive were low wage, non

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<v Speaker 1>union work that paid lower than the national average. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty eight, Wallace embarked in his first campaign to

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<v Speaker 1>be the governor of Alabama. He continued on with the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of populist policies and relatively moderate positions on racial

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<v Speaker 1>equality that he had up until this point. Obviously that

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<v Speaker 1>is not his entire platform, but you know, he was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of continuing similar similarly to what his mentor had

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<v Speaker 1>and Big Jim Folsom had been elected on a similar

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<v Speaker 1>platform in both nineteen forty six and nineteen fifty four.

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<v Speaker 1>But Wallace's opponent in the Democratic primary was Attorney General

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<v Speaker 1>John Patterson. Patterson was running on a pro segregation platform

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<v Speaker 1>supported by the Ku Klux Klan. Wallace, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>had the support of the National Association for the Advancement

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<v Speaker 1>of Colored People or NAACP. The primary went into a runoff,

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<v Speaker 1>with Patterson beating Wallace and then beating the Republican candidate,

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<v Speaker 1>William Longshore by a landslide. When asked what had gone wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>Wallace reportedly told supporters some version of the following quote,

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<v Speaker 1>which uses a slow that we are not going to

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<v Speaker 1>repeat quote. I got out enwarded by John Patterson. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the first and last time I will be out

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<v Speaker 1>inwarded by another candidate. This quote and variations on it

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<v Speaker 1>have been widely reported, but Wallace would later deny ever,

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<v Speaker 1>saying it Apart from shifting his politics on race completely,

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<v Speaker 1>this loss for governor took a toll on Wallace's personal life. Lerline,

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<v Speaker 1>fed up with his absences and rumors of infidelity and

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<v Speaker 1>a deep depression that he went into following the loss,

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<v Speaker 1>took the children to her parents' house and filed for divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>George begged her to come back, and the two eventually reconciled,

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<v Speaker 1>and their last child, Jamie Lee, named after Robert E. Lee,

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<v Speaker 1>was born. In nineteen sixty one, Wallace returned to his

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<v Speaker 1>position in the circuit court, where he turned his attention

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<v Speaker 1>to blocking federal efforts at civil rights. When the US

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<v Speaker 1>Civil Rights Commission requested that he turn over voting records,

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<v Speaker 1>he refused to do it and was threatened with prison

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<v Speaker 1>for contempt. He wound up turning the records over by

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<v Speaker 1>handing them over to grand Juries to turn in on

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<v Speaker 1>his behalf so he could say that he had not

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<v Speaker 1>personally given the government those records, but he could also

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<v Speaker 1>stay out of jail. In nineteen sixty two, Wallace ran

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<v Speaker 1>for governor again. This time he took a pro segregation

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<v Speaker 1>pro states rights platform, and like John Patterson, got the

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<v Speaker 1>support of the Ku Klux Klan. He won the Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>primary after a runoff, and the Republican Party fielded no

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<v Speaker 1>candidate at all in the election. Even though he was

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<v Speaker 1>running unopposed, he got more than three hundred thousand votes,

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<v Speaker 1>more than any candidate in Alabama history at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>That infamous Segregation Forever inaugural address was co written by

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<v Speaker 1>klansman Asa Carter, who could easily be his own podcast

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<v Speaker 1>subject as he also wrote The Education of Little Tree

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<v Speaker 1>in the rebel outlaw Josie Wales under the pseudonym of

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<v Speaker 1>Forrest Carter. Wallace's first term saw some of the most

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<v Speaker 1>note tentorious incidents of racist violence in the civil rights movement,

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<v Speaker 1>with critics blaming Wallace's rhetoric for stoking the fire and

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to talk about it after a quick

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<v Speaker 1>sponsor break. Although there were certainly incidents of racial violence

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<v Speaker 1>before George Wallace took office in Alabama, and that violence

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<v Speaker 1>was not confined just to Alabama, some of the most

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<v Speaker 1>infamous incidents in the United States civil rights movement happened

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<v Speaker 1>there during his first term. On May second, nineteen sixty three,

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<v Speaker 1>children began marching from Birmingham's Sixteenth Street Baptist Church to

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<v Speaker 1>City Hall as part of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference's

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<v Speaker 1>Children's Crusade. That first day, hundreds were arrested. When even

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<v Speaker 1>more gathered to march on May third, Birmingham Commissioner of

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<v Speaker 1>Public Safety Bull Connor used high pressure fire hoses, police

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<v Speaker 1>dogs and clubs to turn them back. This was televised,

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<v Speaker 1>and although the march itself was controversial because it put

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<v Speaker 1>children in danger, it propelled the movement into the national spotlight.

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<v Speaker 1>The Sixteenth Street Baptist Church was bombed just before the

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<v Speaker 1>start of Sunday school on September fifteenth, nineteen sixty three,

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<v Speaker 1>killing Addie May Collins, Cynthia Wesley, Denise McNair, and Carol

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<v Speaker 1>Robertson ages eleven to fourteen. A week before the bombing,

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<v Speaker 1>George Wallace had told The New York Times that there

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<v Speaker 1>needed to be quote a few first class funerals, so

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<v Speaker 1>civil rights activists accused him of creating the climate that

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<v Speaker 1>led to the bombing. Doctor Martin Luther King Junior wired

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<v Speaker 1>him to say, quote, the blood of four little children

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<v Speaker 1>is on your hands. Your irresponsible and misguided actions have

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<v Speaker 1>created in Birmingham and Alabama, the atmosphere that has induced

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<v Speaker 1>continued violence and now murder. In nineteen sixty three, two

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<v Speaker 1>black students, Vivian Malone and James Hood, tried to enroll

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<v Speaker 1>in the University of allah Obama at Tuscaloosa, which was

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<v Speaker 1>still segregated, in spite of the fact that nine years

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<v Speaker 1>had passed since the Supreme Court found school segregation unconstitutional

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<v Speaker 1>in Brown versus Board of Education. It was also in

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<v Speaker 1>spite of the attempt of one other black student, Authorine Lucy,

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<v Speaker 1>who attended classes for three days in nineteen fifty six.

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<v Speaker 1>She was suspended quote for her own safety because white

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<v Speaker 1>students were rioting over her admission, including throwing tomatoes and

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<v Speaker 1>eggs at her. She sued the school, which then used

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<v Speaker 1>that lawsuit as grounds to expel her permanently. When Malone

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<v Speaker 1>and Hood tried to enroll, US District Judge Seaborn Lynn

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<v Speaker 1>forbade Wallace from interfering, but Wallace defied that order. Flanked

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<v Speaker 1>by state troopers, he personally blocked the door to Foster Auditorium,

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<v Speaker 1>where they were to register for class, until the National

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<v Speaker 1>Guard arrived later in the day to intervene. This became

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<v Speaker 1>now as the stand in the Schoolhouse door, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the things that prompted President John F.

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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy to push for civil rights legislation. Selma, Alabama, was

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<v Speaker 1>also the scene of ongoing nonviolent civil rights protests during

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<v Speaker 1>this time, which were repeatedly met with arrests and violence

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<v Speaker 1>on the part of law enforcement. Many of these related

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<v Speaker 1>to voting rights. At the time, discriminatory literacy tests, poll

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<v Speaker 1>tax poll taxes, and a flat out refusal to register

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<v Speaker 1>black people to vote meant that many black people could not.

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<v Speaker 1>These protests included a series of marches to the Selma

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<v Speaker 1>Courthouse to try to register people to vote, and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>to the Selma to Montgomery March, which was a symbolic

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<v Speaker 1>march to the States Capitol following activist Jimmy Lee Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>being shot and killed by a state trooper during a march.

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson was one of several civil rights activists killed in

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama during Wallace's administration. Wallace had insisted that this march

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<v Speaker 1>would not take place, saying, quote such action will not

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<v Speaker 1>be allowed on the part of any other group of

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<v Speaker 1>citizens or non citizens of the State of Alabama, and

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<v Speaker 1>will not be allowed in this instance the government must

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<v Speaker 1>proceed in an orderly manner, and lawful and law abiding

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<v Speaker 1>citizens must transact to their business with the government. In

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<v Speaker 1>such a manner, there will be no march between Selma,

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama and Montgomery. And I have so instructed the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Public Safety. On what came to be known as

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<v Speaker 1>Bloody Sunday, on March seventh, nineteen sixty five, several hundred

0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:30.760
<v Speaker 1>marchers to Selma tried to cross the Edmund Pettus Bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Under Wallace's orders to stop the march, State troopers and

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<v Speaker 1>a posse assembled by Dallas County share of Jim Clark

0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:43.280
<v Speaker 1>attacked the marchers and brutally beat them. Wallace would later say, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>it was something that happened that enraged me because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't intend for it to happen that way. But I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want them to get beyond that point where there

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<v Speaker 1>was some people that told me there might be some violence. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, to prevent the marchers from getting to

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere where people were waiting to hurt them, the police

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<v Speaker 1>hurt them. The Selma to Montgomery march would be turned

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<v Speaker 1>away at the bridge a second time before US District

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Frank M. Johnson ordered that the marchers be allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to exercise their constitutional rights. Wallace said that Alabama did

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<v Speaker 1>not have the resources to protect them, and President Lyndon

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson federalized the Alabama National Guard and sent military police

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<v Speaker 1>and army troops to act as an escort. These Selma

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<v Speaker 1>to Montgomery marches raised national awareness of voting rights issues

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<v Speaker 1>and contributed directly to President Lyndon Johnson's push for the

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<v Speaker 1>Voting Rights Act of nineteen sixty five. This act banned

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<v Speaker 1>most of the strategies that had been used to keep

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<v Speaker 1>black people from voting. However, in twenty twelve, the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court struck down one of its provisions, which had required

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<v Speaker 1>states that had previously used discriminatory election laws to get

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<v Speaker 1>federal approval before changing their election laws. As a result,

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<v Speaker 1>several states implemented election laws that the federal government had

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<v Speaker 1>previously denied as discriminatory. So we're going to back up

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit, because in nineteen sixty four, Wallace

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<v Speaker 1>had actually made his first run at the White House,

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<v Speaker 1>getting his name on the ballot in three states, and

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't pursue the race aggressively, in part because Republican

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<v Speaker 1>candidate Barry Goldwater publicly denounced the Civil Rights Act of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty four, which was basically Wallace's whole platform. Propelled

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<v Speaker 1>by Goldwater's ultimate loss in the race, Wallace decided to

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<v Speaker 1>make a bigger effort in nineteen sixty eight, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was a problem. He'd have far more support in doing

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<v Speaker 1>so if he was still governor, but the Alabama constitution

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<v Speaker 1>did not allow governors to serve consecutive terms. First, he

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<v Speaker 1>tried to get the state legislature to amend the constitution

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<v Speaker 1>so that he could run again, but that failed, so

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<v Speaker 1>instead of admitting defeat, he put his wife ler Lean

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<v Speaker 1>on the ballot with the intent of basically running things

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<v Speaker 1>from behind the scenes. He would basically still have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the perks that came along with being governor

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<v Speaker 1>that he could use as a springboard to run for

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<v Speaker 1>president again with his wife actually being the one in office. However,

0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:19.320
<v Speaker 1>leer Ling had cancer during the Cesarean delivery of their daughter,

0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Janie Lee in nineteen sixty one. Doctors had found a

0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:27.120
<v Speaker 1>suspicious mass in her uterus, and as was common practice

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, the doctors told George but not learn Lean,

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<v Speaker 1>and they left it up to him whether she should

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<v Speaker 1>be informed, and George kept this information from her, saying

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't want to upset her. So four years later,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty five, when she went to a gynecologist

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<v Speaker 1>because she was having unusual bleeding, she was completely shocked

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<v Speaker 1>to find that she had a malignant tumor. In spite

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<v Speaker 1>of her complete lack of interest in politics, and in

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<v Speaker 1>spite of the fact that she had just undergone a

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<v Speaker 1>hysterectomy and radiation treatments which were described to the public

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<v Speaker 1>as female surgery, Laureline agreed to run as her husband's

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<v Speaker 1>stand in. She ran on a campaign of upholding all

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<v Speaker 1>of her husband's policies and his being her number one assistant.

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<v Speaker 1>In the early days on the campaign trail, she would

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<v Speaker 1>start off by giving a brief prepared remarks before introducing

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<v Speaker 1>her husband, who would then basically take it over from there.

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<v Speaker 1>As she gradually became more confident in her speaking skills,

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<v Speaker 1>she did start to campaign on her own, and in

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<v Speaker 1>the end she beat ten male candidates, some of them

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<v Speaker 1>former governors, in the primary. She then won the election

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<v Speaker 1>by a landslide, becoming the first woman governor elected in

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<v Speaker 1>the Deep South. When her term as governor began. She

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<v Speaker 1>and George had offices across the hall from each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and staff called them Governor Lerlein and Governor George. She

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<v Speaker 1>did push for some initiatives of her own, including legislation

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<v Speaker 1>related to state parks and to mental health. That latter

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<v Speaker 1>following a tour she made of two state institutions whose

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<v Speaker 1>conditions really horrified her. During her time in office, the

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama legislature also ratified an amendment that would allow governors

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<v Speaker 1>to serve consecutive terms, and as promised, she also upheld

0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:18.639
<v Speaker 1>her husband's promise to fight integration. In March of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty seven, a federal court ordered that Alabama's schools must

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<v Speaker 1>be desegregated in lee versus Macon County Board of Education.

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<v Speaker 1>This followed a lengthy series of maneuverings that George Wallace

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<v Speaker 1>had overseen during his first term as governor to try

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<v Speaker 1>to stop integration. This includes delaying the start of school,

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<v Speaker 1>stationing troops at schools to prevent black students from entering,

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<v Speaker 1>and transferring all of the white students out of Tuskegee

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<v Speaker 1>High School after black students were enrolled there. Following the

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<v Speaker 1>court order that came down during Luerline Wallace's time in office.

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<v Speaker 1>She delivered an address that stridently denounced this ruling as

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<v Speaker 1>infringing on the state's rights, vowing to US state troopers

0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.479
<v Speaker 1>to prevent integration if necessary. This case then went on

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<v Speaker 1>to the Supreme Court and Wallace versus the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Supreme Court upheld the lower court's ruling, at

0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:17.280
<v Speaker 1>which point some progress was actually made in desegregating the schools. Lurline.

0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Wallace was not able, however, to keep up her duties

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<v Speaker 1>as governor for long. In July of nineteen sixty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>doctors found another tumor in her abdomen, followed by numerous

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<v Speaker 1>other tumors the following January. She underwent tests and treatment

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<v Speaker 1>at the MD Anderson Clinic in Houston, Texas. Because there

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a cancer center in Alabama because she was governor,

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<v Speaker 1>she had to travel back to Alabama during her treatment

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<v Speaker 1>at least once every twenty days. During a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>this time, she was in severe pain and she underwent

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<v Speaker 1>multiple operations. This went on until May of nineteen sixty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>when she returned home to her family to die, and

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<v Speaker 1>she died on May seventh, nineteen sixty eight, at the

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<v Speaker 1>age of forty one, after just six teen months in office.

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<v Speaker 1>Her body lay in state in an open casket, something

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<v Speaker 1>that her husband ordered in defiance of her wishes, at

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<v Speaker 1>the Capitol Rotunda. This is the first time anyone had

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<v Speaker 1>laid in state there since the eighteen eighty nine death

0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:16.200
<v Speaker 1>of Jefferson Davis, who had been president of the Confederate

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<v Speaker 1>States of America. Her death was met with a huge

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<v Speaker 1>outpouring of public grief, with public schools, state offices, and

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<v Speaker 1>some businesses closing the day of the funeral, and more

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<v Speaker 1>than twenty five thousand people going to the capital to

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<v Speaker 1>pay their respects. And we're going to next get into

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<v Speaker 1>Wallace's later career, but first we're going to pause for

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<v Speaker 1>a moment and have a word from one of our sponsors.

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<v Speaker 1>After ler Leine Wallace's death in nineteen sixty eight, she

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<v Speaker 1>was succeeded by the Lieutenant Governor, Albert Brewer, who raised

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<v Speaker 1>funds for a cancer center at the University of Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>in her memory. And that same year, as he had

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<v Speaker 1>been planning to do, George Wallace ran for president again

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<v Speaker 1>under the American Independent Party. Wallace got onto the ballot

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<v Speaker 1>in every state, and he won five of them. Earning

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<v Speaker 1>more than ten percent of the popular vote, although he

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<v Speaker 1>dropped some of his most explicit racist language, his campaign

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:25.199
<v Speaker 1>decried the influence of things like liberals, communists, and the

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<v Speaker 1>interference of the federal government, leaning on more coded language

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<v Speaker 1>to reach out to white voters who were unhappy with

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<v Speaker 1>the progress of integration and increasing civil rights for black people.

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<v Speaker 1>He ran for governor again in nineteen seventy, using much

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<v Speaker 1>of the same anti integration platform that had won him

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<v Speaker 1>the election in nineteen sixty two, and at times the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy campaign was even more explicit, but once he

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<v Speaker 1>was actually in office, he softened his rhetoric. Following the

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<v Speaker 1>passage of the Voting Rights Act and the long work

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<v Speaker 1>of the Civil rights movement, many of Alabama's black population,

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<v Speaker 1>who made up more than a quarter of the state's population,

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<v Speaker 1>were now registered to vote. Whilas realized that he would

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<v Speaker 1>undermine his efforts if he continued to explicitly attack such

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<v Speaker 1>a large group of the state's voters. In nineteen seventy two,

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<v Speaker 1>Whillas once again ran for president, this time as a

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat and once again primarily reaching out to disaffected white voters,

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<v Speaker 1>decrying forced bussing to integrate schools and welfare loafing and

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<v Speaker 1>advocating quote a return to law and order in an

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<v Speaker 1>end to foreign aid programs, especially to communist countries. After

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<v Speaker 1>winning the state of Florida, his campaign looked like it

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<v Speaker 1>was set to be a lot more successful than he

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<v Speaker 1>had been in nineteen sixty eight. But then, while he

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<v Speaker 1>was campaigning in Laurel, Maryland, he was shot by Arthur

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<v Speaker 1>Bremer while working the crowd at a rally. Bremer had

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<v Speaker 1>previously planned to assassinate Richard Nixon, but had ultimately never

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 1>opened fire. While still recuperating, Wallace won the primaries in

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<v Speaker 1>Maryland in Michigan as well well. However, this injury left

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Wallace paralyzed from the waist down, and since he was

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<v Speaker 1>hospitalized for months, he was unable to continue his campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>He would go on to maintain that he would have

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<v Speaker 1>won that presidency had he not been shot. Although his

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<v Speaker 1>injury put him out of the presidential race, he ran

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<v Speaker 1>for Alabama governor again in nineteen seventy four, since that

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:24.920
<v Speaker 1>amendment to the state constitution that had come through during

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Lerlin Wallace's administration once again allowed him to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>He won for his third term and his second consecutive term,

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<v Speaker 1>and he once again spent part of his term as governor.

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<v Speaker 1>Again running for president in nineteen seventy six. He won

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<v Speaker 1>the states of Alabama, South Carolina, and Mississippi in the primary,

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately losing the Democratic nomination to Jimmy Carter, who he

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<v Speaker 1>endorsed after dropping out of the race, and numerous biographers

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<v Speaker 1>describe him as being a lot more interested in campaigning

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<v Speaker 1>than in governing. It sure sounds that way. He spends

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of of his time as governor on the

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<v Speaker 1>presidential campaign trail. It's true story. So after his gunshot injury,

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<v Speaker 1>and in light of the changing racial politics of the

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:10.359
<v Speaker 1>United States in his later life, George Wallace started reaching

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<v Speaker 1>out to the black community and trying to make amends.

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<v Speaker 1>Historians and biographers really disagree on whether this attempt was

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<v Speaker 1>motivated by a genuine change in views or whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was political savvy and a desire not to be remembered

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:26.400
<v Speaker 1>on the wrong side of history. He began to insist

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 1>that his hard line segregationist stance was based on the

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:34.959
<v Speaker 1>Constitution and a misreading of the Bible, not on white supremacy.

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<v Speaker 1>This does not, however, quite sync with some of the

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<v Speaker 1>quotes that are attributed to him, such as quote the

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<v Speaker 1>colored are fine in their place, but they're just like children,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not something that's going to change. It's written

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<v Speaker 1>in stone. He also met with several of the still

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<v Speaker 1>living civil rights leaders who he had actively worked against,

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<v Speaker 1>including the Reverend Ralph D. Abernathy, the Reverend Jesse Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>and Representative Lewis. Lewis had been seriously beaten on Bloody

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday during the first Selma to Montgomery March. While presenting

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>her with the Lurelin B. Wallace Award for Courage, he

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<v Speaker 1>also praised Vivian Vivian Malone for her quote, strength, grace,

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:18.880
<v Speaker 1>and above all courage during the stand in the schoolhouse door.

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>In the words of Selma attorney J. L. Chesnutt, quoted

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<v Speaker 1>in the PBS American Experience production George Wallace Set in

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<v Speaker 1>the Woods on Fire, which came out in two thousand, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no problem for giving George Wallace. I will

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<v Speaker 1>not forget George Wallace because we must deal with the

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 1>reality of Wallace. How is it that a demagogue insulting

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<v Speaker 1>twenty million black people daily on the television can rise

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 1>to the heights that Wallace did forgive, yes, forget never.

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:52.679
<v Speaker 1>George Wallace was elected to his last term as governor

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty two in a campaign that actively sought

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 1>and received votes from the black community. His win made

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:02.479
<v Speaker 1>him the only person in Alabama history to serve for four terms,

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<v Speaker 1>and we took office in nineteen eighty three. He made

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<v Speaker 1>it a point to appoint black officials to government positions.

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<v Speaker 1>He also became a born again Christian that year. He

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<v Speaker 1>retired from that last term in January of nineteen eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and he died on September thirteenth of nineteen ninety eight

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<v Speaker 1>in Montgomery, Alabama. Regardless of whether Wallace's shifts in racial

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<v Speaker 1>ideology were genuine or just politically expedient, his methods of

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<v Speaker 1>campaigning and his shifting platforms have really had a long

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<v Speaker 1>list lasting influence on American politics. Dan T. Carter, in

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<v Speaker 1>a paper published in the Journal of Southern History in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety six, writes Wallace more than any other political

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<v Speaker 1>figure of the nineteen sixties and early nineteen seventies, since

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<v Speaker 1>the frustrations, the rage of many American voters made commonplace

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<v Speaker 1>a new level of political incibility and intemperate rhetoric and

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<v Speaker 1>focused that anger upon a convenient set of scapegoats. I

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<v Speaker 1>was in nineteen ninety six, so that is George Wallace.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone asked us on Yeah, somebody asked us on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>one time if we would do a podcast on Bull Connor,

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<v Speaker 1>who was the person who turned the fire hoses on

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<v Speaker 1>the Children's Crusade during their march. Uh. I'm just gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>after having done this one, I'm not that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>way down the leaklist because it's hard. Yeah. Thanks so

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