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Speaker 2: What's Up?

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, as always,

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Speaker 3: joined by the voice of the Chargers, Matt Muddy Smith.

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Speaker 3: Day one of training camp and money Training camp always

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Speaker 3: brings surprises, but forty five minutes into practice, I think

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Speaker 3: we were all shocked. Frankly, Mike Williams is retiring from

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Speaker 3: the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Shocked for me, it's bummed, you know, I really maybe

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Speaker 4: a better word. Yeah, anybody that's been around Mike knows

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Speaker 4: just what a great duty is and you know, was

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Speaker 4: excited to have him back, thinking about the chemistry with

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Speaker 4: Justin Herbert and just an opportunity for him to shake

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Speaker 4: off last year and just how badly that went. I

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Speaker 4: was excited for him, And you know, unfortunately this this

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Speaker 4: is typically how it ends. It doesn't end with Tom

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Speaker 4: Brady went in a Super Bowl in Tampa at forty

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Speaker 4: years old. Usually it's a it's a game that chews

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Speaker 4: you up and spits you out. And sadly for Mike

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Speaker 4: who had to deal with, you know, neck injury when

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Speaker 4: and then obviously the knee two years ago in that

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Speaker 4: Vikings game. It's you know, some guys their body cooperates,

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Speaker 4: because I think a lot of people were really excited

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Speaker 4: to have Mike dub back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, last week we were talking about kind of the

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Speaker 3: pecking order of the wide receivers and thinking that Mike

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Speaker 2: Get some reps.

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Speaker 3: And now again it's it's fresh and everything you said

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Speaker 3: about Mike is so true. He was drafted in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 3: the first LA Charger drafted and had some really good

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Speaker 3: so refreshing to have them back. And now you know,

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Speaker 3: having Mike. We're gonna have Tyler Conklin joined the program

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Speaker 3: later to talk about kind of his his journey with

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Speaker 3: So that'll be good, But as far as the wide

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Speaker 3: receiving room is concerned, you know, there's a there's a

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Speaker 3: Soon, and you know everyone's just gonna have to get

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Speaker 4: I think in the case of Trey, we were talking

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Speaker 4: but that that'll get done. Like it seems like it's

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Speaker 4: I pulled up Patrick Paul's numbers from last year. He

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Speaker 4: as you know, Chris, you're the one that told me

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Speaker 4: Right on cue, Jalen Rager, you know, runs a go

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Speaker 4: and figure out if it's internal or if it's external.

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Speaker 3: One of the advantages I guess of starting early is

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, I don't know from a trade perspective,

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Speaker 4: like I said, it could, this team feels like they're

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Speaker 4: give that opportunity to Trey Harris. Let's give that opportunity

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Speaker 4: to KeAndre Lambert, Smith, to Brennan Rice, to Jalen Rager

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Speaker 1: You know external.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a heck of an opportunity for Quinn

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Speaker 3: Johnson right year three to elevate what he did last year.

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Speaker 3: we wish Mike Williams the best man. We love Mike Williams,

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Speaker 3: can't say enough good things about him, but you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly right, and he's going to join

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Speaker 4: You're talking about multiple sixty plus catch seasons last year,

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Speaker 4: because it's not just about the wide receiver, right, It's

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Speaker 3: I think the the excitement of the preseason, of the

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Speaker 3: because we have not seen KLS or Trey Harris before.

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Speaker 3: We thought Hayden Hurst was going to kind of fill

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Speaker 2: What he was able to do in Minnesota and the Jets.

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Speaker 3: you know, just seeing how this offense develops again, I go,

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Speaker 3: I just go back to being taking this in January

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll say the you know, just going into camp

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Speaker 4: that old school air Coriel Charger Power T shirt. It's

438
00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,560
Speaker 4: all ripped up, it's got to rip on the collars whatever.

439
00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,800
Speaker 4: Love this thing so bellow chick esque, Yes, exactly. So

440
00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,840
Speaker 4: for me, yes, I know you're disappointed there was the Royal.

441
00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,119
Speaker 4: It was I'm not gonna lie. I was disappointed. I

442
00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,840
Speaker 4: wanted some Royal, But that's fine. You know that these

443
00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,120
Speaker 4: will be their alternates moving forward, and hopefully they stick

444
00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,240
Speaker 4: and they don't swap them out after two years. And

445
00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,160
Speaker 4: I think it's safe to say the Navies are here

446
00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,440
Speaker 4: to stay because the fans are just beyond stoked about

447
00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,679
Speaker 4: that particular jersey, and I think a lot of them

448
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,640
Speaker 4: are already sold out. So if you want one, get

449
00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:50,600
Speaker 4: after it right away.

450
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Speaker 3: It's you know, like we're looking at the LT Navy

451
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,399
Speaker 3: right now. And what's great about is the bolt is

452
00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,399
Speaker 3: the kind of the same size on the shoulder and helmet,

453
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Speaker 3: but it it does have.

454
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Speaker 4: Like a little bit of a modern look. Oh it's

455
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Speaker 4: way different. Yeah, it's I believe it's.

456
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Speaker 5: I was.

457
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Speaker 4: I was because some people were getting upset with me

458
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,679
Speaker 4: about like, you, bum, you don't know what these navies

459
00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:11,960
Speaker 4: mean this.

460
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Speaker 1: I was, like, I do, but you don't know that.

461
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,959
Speaker 4: I'm fifty years old and I watched the Chargers when

462
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:18,760
Speaker 4: they were in Royals.

463
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Speaker 1: I'm not thirty, I'm twenty years older than you. So

464
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,399
Speaker 1: Navies hit they changed from Royal to Navy. So for

465
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Speaker 1: me that.

466
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,119
Speaker 4: Transition was like, ah, those are the best uniforms in

467
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Speaker 4: the league. Like that's how I felt when they made

468
00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:35,919
Speaker 4: that shift thirty years ago. But these Navies are different.

469
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Speaker 4: And I was, you know, because I was having these

470
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Speaker 4: interactions with all these people and let it be known,

471
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 4: folks don't take anything personally on social media. If you

472
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,440
Speaker 4: just engage and be, you know, have a conversation, people

473
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 4: typically come around and you learn things. And someone had

474
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Speaker 4: said and I don't know if this is true, but

475
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Speaker 4: they said, yeah, this iteration of navies they wore once,

476
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Speaker 4: but only one time, that this particular look the way

477
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Speaker 4: the color of the bolt, the helmet, like all of

478
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Speaker 4: it was actually worn. I want to say it was

479
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,399
Speaker 4: like over twenty years ago in a single game. It

480
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 4: was like a Monday night football game. They had said

481
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 4: in like two thousand and three that this particular the

482
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,159
Speaker 4: style of the bolt, that all of that, you know,

483
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 4: not lootactically, but but just color wise the way everything

484
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 4: was laid out. So it is I think, I mean,

485
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Speaker 4: I'll take them at their word. It was very detailed

486
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Speaker 4: this response to me. So I was like, all right,

487
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Speaker 4: I assume that's let's go.

488
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Speaker 2: To do our homework.

489
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Speaker 3: Let's go to two thousand and three Bundy Night football

490
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 3: games exactly. Let's let's get to Tyler Conklin. Let's do

491
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Speaker 3: that really good conversation with Tyler. They won a training

492
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Speaker 3: camp here he is well as promised. Tyler Conklin joins

493
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Speaker 3: us on Chargers Weekly, fresh off the field after day

494
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 3: one of camp. First impressions of training camp under Jim Harball, Tyler.

495
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Speaker 5: I'm excited.

496
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Speaker 6: I mean, I love the way we do things as

497
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Speaker 6: a team. I love the team that we got. Im

498
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 6: just excited about it.

499
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Speaker 1: You've you've been in a few is every camp different?

500
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Speaker 1: It's every camp kind of the same.

501
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Speaker 4: I know it's only one day, but just kind of

502
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,479
Speaker 4: the vibe around the team, How different or how similar

503
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Speaker 4: is to other places you've been.

504
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a little bit of both, right,

505
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 6: Like everybody kind of does certain things alike, and then

506
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 6: there's always different nuances and we do things and so

507
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Speaker 6: I mean it changes year by year and coach by

508
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Speaker 6: coach or you know, by coaches experiences of how they

509
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 6: think any to change it to get us ready. But

510
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Speaker 6: you know, I'm excited for the way they've kind of

511
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 6: you can tell how much like thought and preparation they

512
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 6: put into this camp schedule and really building us up

513
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Speaker 6: for the season ahead.

514
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Speaker 3: You know, just your your experience with the Chargers and

515
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Speaker 3: just a few months that you've been here, being in

516
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Speaker 3: a new environment, getting used to the quarterback, the tight

517
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Speaker 3: ends room, the offense in general. How has that transition

518
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Speaker 3: been from New York.

519
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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's always It's always a lot, right, like moving

520
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 6: across the coast to coast, literally coast to coast, finding

521
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 6: a place to live, you know, meet new people, creating friends,

522
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 6: building relationships, learning offense. But it's all fun doing it right, Like,

523
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Speaker 6: you know, Justin's a great dude to have him, you know,

524
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Speaker 6: leading us as a quarterback and you a tight end

525
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 6: friend of the offense where you know we play a

526
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Speaker 6: lot of tight ends and get to do a lot

527
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Speaker 6: of different things in his offense is really exciting.

528
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

529
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Speaker 4: You mentioned tight ends, right, So you look at Will

530
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 4: and Talker is out there and then they draft a

531
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Speaker 4: ronde and kind of you look like you're sort of

532
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Speaker 4: the the guy that it fits in the middle of

533
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 4: all of that kind of how would you describe yourself

534
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Speaker 4: as a tight end to the folks that are watching

535
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Speaker 4: and listening.

536
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of what I've always prided myself on,

537
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 6: is you know, playing receiver when I first got to

538
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Speaker 6: college and playing basketball and receiver, and when I became

539
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Speaker 6: a tight end, my thing was like, you're a tight end,

540
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Speaker 6: Like we got to do everything. So I always took

541
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Speaker 6: pride and sometimes it was to a fault right of

542
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 6: like trying to we got to be good at so

543
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 6: many different things past game, run, game, pass, pro, but

544
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 6: I always took pride and be able to do all

545
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 6: those different things and be a three down player. So

546
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Speaker 6: we definitely have a little bit of everything in our

547
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 6: room with you know, Tuck Matt Locke. You know, Will

548
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 6: can do everything. You know, Aaranda, he's got so much

549
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 6: as a receiver. Obviously played receiver, so he's got a

550
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Speaker 6: lot of talent in that category, and he's willing to block.

551
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 6: And that's really what blocking comes down to, right what

552
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Speaker 6: was your willingness to go and get better at it

553
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Speaker 6: and be coached at and so I like to think

554
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Speaker 6: we can all do a little bit everything.

555
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Speaker 2: You know in this offense.

556
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Speaker 3: You know, justin really spreads the wealth, you know among

557
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 3: tight ends, receivers, backs. How do you envision your role

558
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: going this year and just that chemistry with just that

559
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: you've already established this offseason.

560
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a tricky question, right, Like every year you

561
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 6: go into it. I've always gone into it like, Okay,

562
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Speaker 6: what are my goals for this year? You know, you

563
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 6: know accolades, catches, yards, you know, no mas, no drops,

564
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Speaker 6: Like what are my goals? And you never really know,

565
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 6: right because so many different things happen throughout the season, Like,

566
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Speaker 6: you know, what is the chemistry, how does that building?

567
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Speaker 6: What does that look like? You know, throughout the stages.

568
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Speaker 6: There's so many different stages throughout the season. You know what,

569
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Speaker 6: you know, what's the games like, how are they getting called? Well,

570
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Speaker 6: you know, are we playing from behind or in front?

571
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Speaker 6: But I do just love the way, like I said earlier,

572
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Speaker 6: just the things that tight end gets to do in

573
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Speaker 6: this offense from a route tree standpoint, the way we're

574
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Speaker 6: going to run the ball. That makes it a lot

575
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Speaker 6: easier on the tight end when you run the ball. Well,

576
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Speaker 6: So I do think.

577
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Speaker 5: There's the ability to have a very productive tight.

578
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Speaker 1: End room Tyler. You say drops, you don't drop the ball?

579
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Speaker 4: Like, so what And it's not like you're you know,

580
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 4: you're getting sixty catch seasons out there? So what what

581
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 4: goes into that? How much of it is concentration? Is

582
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Speaker 4: it proud?

583
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Speaker 6: Like?

584
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Speaker 1: What goes into being someone that does not drop the ball?

585
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Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean it's it's a focus. It's a focus thing.

586
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 6: A lot of times, uh, you know, things happen, right,

587
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 6: we tend to have you know, drops happen, and you know,

588
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 6: I haven't been perfect, but I have pride in myself

589
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 6: on you know, being secure and it comes to catching

590
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Speaker 6: the ball. And I just feel like since I was

591
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 6: a kid, I was always you know, everybody kind of

592
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 6: has a trait. When they were playing little league football

593
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 6: and you know, some people were amazing after the catch

594
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 6: and it just like naturally do some amazing things, and

595
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 6: it kind of translates to when they get old they

596
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 6: kind of just black out on the field and do

597
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Speaker 6: some things and like, man, how'd you do that? Like

598
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Speaker 6: I don't know, I just wound up seventy yard touchdown

599
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 6: the end zone. And that's kind of how it is

600
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 6: for me catching the ball. I feel like I always

601
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 6: naturally called the ball and you know, I feel very comfortable,

602
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 6: just kind of you know, something I've always been pretty

603
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 6: good at. And to make sure I stay on top

604
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 6: of it, you know, just do what you're supposed to do, right,

605
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 6: get catches and do the little things and focus.

606
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was like two three weeks ago.

607
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Speaker 3: There's a video on Twitter that with viral of you

608
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: just working out on the Also.

609
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Speaker 1: I thought it was awesome.

610
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Speaker 5: No, yeah, I enjoy I enjoyed doing receiver stuff. You know.

611
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 6: I had the community event in a camp youth camp

612
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 6: back home, and we did three different camps and the

613
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 6: last camp was I brought like some of the top

614
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 6: high school kids in the state, and I brought one

615
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 6: of the top you know trainers everybody seys on Instagram

616
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 6: out because you know, I thought would be cool for

617
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 6: those kids to get the experience of training with somebody

618
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 6: that trains you know pros. And there's a couple other

619
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Speaker 6: pros that you know I played with in the past

620
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 6: or played you know, high level college guys and whatnot.

621
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Speaker 6: And yeah, I didn't expect it to blow up because

622
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Speaker 6: I've been doing stuff like that for you know, eight

623
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Speaker 6: years and you know, accounting, so it's always kind of

624
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 6: an off season thing of working with a receiver coach

625
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 6: against some of that in right, Like, there's so many

626
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 6: phases to you know, training throughout the off season, and

627
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 6: that just happened to blow up, and you know, people

628
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 6: have their opinions.

629
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Speaker 1: Good in back, I loved it.

630
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Speaker 4: Two hundred and sixty pounds. Men aren't supposed to move

631
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,479
Speaker 4: like that. That's the big takeaway. So with that being said, like,

632
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 4: what's that transition like when you're when you're thinking about

633
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 4: moving to tight end and you've got to put on

634
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Speaker 4: all this weight and you're a former basketball player in

635
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 4: this high level athlete. Now you've got to carry all

636
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 4: this extra weight how hard or is that to just

637
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 4: put it on and then to work with that extra

638
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 4: weight on you.

639
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, put it on was tough.

640
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 6: Uh you know honestly, like I kind of put it on,

641
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 6: I feel like in a good way to where it

642
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 6: didn't really affect me too much. Like I didn't lift

643
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 6: a tone when I was playing basketball and when I

644
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 6: was young at all. So I feel like I had

645
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 6: so much room to grow as I got bigger, Like

646
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 6: I got to get stronger and learn how to run

647
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 6: and learn how to get faster. And I thought, I

648
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 6: think the best thing with basketball was just the fluidity

649
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 6: it teaches of just reacting right, going beginning to rebound,

650
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 6: crossovers and and.

651
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 5: All those things.

652
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 6: So I think the movement portion of it wasn't too difficult,

653
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 6: but the gaining weight portion was was tough at times, right,

654
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 6: like when you're trying it, especially in college, and like, oh,

655
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Speaker 6: you got to be two thirty at this time, and

656
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 6: I'm like, you know, chugging milkshakes and eating Wendy's like

657
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 6: right before the way and then throwing up when I

658
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 6: walk out of there.

659
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 5: Like so the way game was the way game was tough.

660
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 6: But then you know, once once it sticks it starts sticking.

661
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: As a VET. How much juice does it give you

662
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 2: to be in a new environment.

663
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 3: And just seeing what this team did last year and

664
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Speaker 3: you know, looking at that wide receiver position, you know

665
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: Will had a lot on us play last year. Uh,

666
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: Hayden Hurst who was here, had a lot of injuries.

667
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: So I feel like there's a there's a really solid

668
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 3: role for you. So you couple that with just the

669
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: fact that they want to live in games and you

670
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 3: get to kind of come into this new environment.

671
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: How much juice does they give you as a VET?

672
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

673
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: A lot?

674
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 6: Right, you know, going to free agency, I wasn't really

675
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 6: sure how I was going to play out, But it

676
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 6: didn't play out. I guess necessarily how I expected it

677
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 6: to play out in all honesty, and uh, you know.

678
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 5: When I come here on my visit, uh, I just

679
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 5: knew it was.

680
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 6: The it was the right situation, right, like meeting coach

681
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 6: har Ball and coach Herb and just like the people

682
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 6: here and the way they do things and the expectation

683
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 6: and the standard and like you said, the ability that

684
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 6: for Justine spread the ball around and the opportunity to

685
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 6: go out there and have the best season of my career,

686
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 6: and you never know what's gonna happen in football season.

687
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 6: But all you can ask for is opportunity, right, the

688
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 6: opportunity to go into camping and earn the starting spot,

689
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 6: going to camp and earned the ability to them for

690
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 6: the coaches to want to get you targets and earn

691
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 6: the ability to trust Justine trusted to get those targets.

692
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 6: And that's all you can ask for the league at

693
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 6: you know, when they're drafting people and there's new people

694
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 6: coming in every year trying to, you know, take your spot.

695
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 6: So to be in a situation, a winning situation, a

696
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 6: team that you know has built the way this team's built,

697
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 6: you know, it's not many situations that could have been

698
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 6: better than this one.

699
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 4: You're you're qualified to weigh in on this more than

700
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 4: most folks. I don't know if you remember like two

701
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 4: years ago. I'm sure you do, but the whole basketball

702
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: versus football thing, you know could and it's a great illustration,

703
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 4: right because I mean, taking nothing away from your basketball career,

704
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 4: but you're a D two basketball player, you go to

705
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 4: D one tight end and now you're in the league

706
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 4: for what it's six seven years. Now they're going to

707
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 4: eight like we don't see it going on eight, so

708
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 4: we don't see a lot of football guys going to basketball.

709
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 4: So with that whole debate, like where do you come

710
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 4: out on that? Because I think about like Julius Peppers

711
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 4: and what kind of basketball player it was versus a

712
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame football player. Is it easier to make

713
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 4: that transition to football from basketball?

714
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 6: I mean, there's so many very variables that go into it, Like,

715
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 6: you know, for me, it came to the point of,

716
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 6: like my traits just made more sense for football, Like

717
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 6: as much as my dream was to play professional basketball,

718
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 6: like my traits just made more sense. And I feel

719
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 6: like usually football players don't. Usually when you see a

720
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 6: football player play basketball is usually not as pretty, usually choppy,

721
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 6: not very fluid, little you know, you use your five

722
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 6: files kind of guy. So I do think it's an

723
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 6: easier transition from you know, basketball to football because at

724
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 6: that point you just gotta probably start lifting weights. And

725
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 6: I mean the learning curve is was the biggest thing

726
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 6: for me. Like when I was first learning the college playbook,

727
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, like this is you don't have to

728
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 6: watch that much film in college basketball. You don't gotta

729
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 6: I mean, I wasn't there for that long. But like

730
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 6: the whole mental side of the of the sport is

731
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 6: just completely different.

732
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 4: But what about like that they would say, oh, basketball

733
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 4: players wouldn't be able to deal with the physicality.

734
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 6: I think it's just person by person. Some people wouldn't

735
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 6: be able to, some people would be able to. I

736
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 6: think it's all relative. I don't want to get into

737
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 6: which one can do it, because I mean there's some

738
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 6: people that could probably do both and some people that

739
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 6: probably can't.

740
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to guard cock in the

741
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: in the box.

742
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: I mean I used to.

743
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 5: I used to be a little guy though, point guard,

744
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 5: shooting guard.

745
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 6: So I was just like one hundred ninety pounds, and

746
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 6: you know, I thought I was a little better basketball

747
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 6: player than I was.

748
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: So you still play.

749
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 6: I used to win the off season a lot. It

750
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 6: was just a good cardio. But as I get older

751
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 6: and whatnot.

752
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 5: It's just not worth the risk.

753
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah at all.

754
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: Hey, you know what you said. Anything can happen in

755
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: a training camp. We just got breaking news. Mike Williams

756
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 3: just retired. I know you played with him last year,

757
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: remember the Jets, And you know we've known Mike since

758
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen amazing period. We were so excited to see

759
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: him on the grass this year, but wasn't meant to

760
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 3: be just your thoughts on Mike is a guy, because

761
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: I know that you played with him last year as well.

762
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and me and Mike built a good relationship in

763
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 6: New York and then kind of ended up back here.

764
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 6: Was funny because they really helped my transition through OTAs

765
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 6: of knowing somebody and having a relationship with somebody.

766
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 5: You know.

767
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 6: I mean, that's just and that's hard to answer, right.

768
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 6: It catches me off, catching me by surprise a little

769
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 6: bit too. But I'm sure he's making the best decision

770
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 6: for himself and you know where him and his family's

771
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 6: at and whatnot, So you know, I'm excited for him

772
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 6: and what's next. But I agree, Mike's one of the

773
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 6: best people.

774
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 5: You know.

775
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 6: I haven't known as long as you guys know him,

776
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 6: but in my short amount of time playing with him

777
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 6: and knowing him, he was a great person.

778
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

779
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 4: You just going back to you and coming here, Like

780
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: when you get ready or when you're getting ready for camp,

781
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 4: are you watching like Herbert and Hunter Henry and Jared Cock.

782
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: Are you watching that stuff or are you watching Greg Roman,

783
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 4: you know, Baltimore offenses in San Francisco? Like do you

784
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 4: get into that or is it all just clean slate?

785
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 4: Let me go in and kind of absorb it as

786
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 4: it comes to me.

787
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 5: A little bit of both.

788
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 6: Actually, the first time I ever started kind of going

789
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 6: back and watching like, oh, like when I was playing

790
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 6: with Aaron, Like when Aaron first got to New York,

791
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, let me go back and watch

792
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 6: him play with you know, Rob Haanyan or you know

793
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 6: whoever you know Mercedes or whoever his tight end was,

794
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,239
Speaker 6: and how he did things, especially just like with all

795
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 6: the nuances that Aaron had as a quarterback, Like I

796
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 6: was really kind of like, okay, how do I see

797
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 6: the game the same way as him as quick as possible?

798
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 6: So that was my first time really doing that about

799
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 6: two years ago and then coming into this situation. It's

800
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 6: something I'm happy I'd learned because it really carried over,

801
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 6: like how can I kind of see how coach calls things?

802
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 5: See what justin likes.

803
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 6: You know, I've always really appreciated like the way Hunter

804
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 6: Henry played a game of football. You know, he was

805
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 6: always just so savvy and did a little bit of everything,

806
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 6: just like I started to do.

807
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 5: So it is something I do. But at the same time,

808
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 5: it's like, let's go out there.

809
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 6: And build this thing. And you know, you can only

810
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 6: do so much thinking. You know, you gotta go out

811
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 6: there and play and react.

812
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: You know, I think back to your time with the Jets.

813
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: It's just the great defenses that you guys had there

814
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: and going up against those guys on a daily basis

815
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 3: and practice. You come here and guys like Derwin James

816
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: and Dayon Henley. Your your impressions of this jesse Mentor

817
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: led defense.

818
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: That you have to go up against on a daily basis.

819
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the biggest difference is in New York, right,

820
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 6: they did the same thing every time like we weren't.

821
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 6: They didn't do a ton right like we recover three

822
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 6: and it was what it was. You know, Coach Mentor

823
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 6: does so many you know they'll be in four down,

824
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 6: they'll be and three down it'll be you know, tricky too,

825
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 6: Like there's so many different things they do from a

826
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 6: cover standpoint and front standpoint that you know, it's a

827
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 6: lot different. We were New York's four down cover three

828
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 6: you know occasion, you know, man On third, like it

829
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 6: wasn't too much, you know, getting to the line, having

830
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 6: to figure out what was going on. You think a

831
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 6: little bit more here now here it's like okay, like

832
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 6: what are we doing? Like what are they doing? How

833
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 6: does this change my rules? What all I gotta change?

834
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 6: And then like obviously named some great players, right, like

835
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 6: you know me and Dermam got drafted in the same class,

836
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 6: and you know the career he's had his you know,

837
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 6: I guess he's lived up to all the hype, right

838
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 6: he gets drafted as Derwy James, and he's lived up

839
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 6: to all of it and exceeded some so and some

840
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 6: of the young guys on this defense that have just

841
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 6: stepped up, you know last year the corners and obviously

842
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 6: you got k Mack and whatnot, who I you know,

843
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 6: unfortunately had to play against a handful of times when

844
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 6: I was in Minnesota because those are some good defenses too,

845
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 6: when he was in Chicago in twenty nineteen and whatnot. Right,

846
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 6: it's a really you know, it's a really talented defense

847
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 6: and coach mentors a you know, hell hell of a

848
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 6: defensive coache.

849
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 4: So two days ago, yeah, big day. I don't know

850
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 4: if you kind of picked up on it. But Charger

851
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: uniforms are kind of a thing. Yeah, so there we go.

852
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: Good. Just kind of your thoughts now that you're here.

853
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: What do you think would be your favorite combo?

854
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 5: That The Navy's pretty sweet?

855
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just like a childhood thing, right, Like I

856
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 6: grew up watching LT and Antonio Gates, especially him being

857
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 6: a Michigan guy. Like he's my favorite tight end of

858
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 6: all time. So you know he was college basketball player, right,

859
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 6: you know, Hall of Famer now, Like he's always been

860
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 6: kind of somebody that I've watched throughout you know, my.

861
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 5: Especially my transition to football.

862
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 6: But so it was a nostalgic and you know LT

863
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 6: and the dark visor too, right, it's just it's just sick.

864
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

865
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 6: But the powder of blues are sweet, especially like the

866
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 6: powdered blue pants with the white jersey. I think that's

867
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 6: a good home UNI like, and I like, I know

868
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 6: the yellows. Everybody's kind of some people.

869
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: Like it depends right, like gold look good on this

870
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 1: smaller guys.

871
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 6: I want to say, I enjoy like for a titand

872
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 6: I feel like I enjoy looking good out there, right,

873
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 6: And I think I'm gonable to make those yellows look

874
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 6: really good. But I guess we'll we'll find out what

875
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 6: people think.

876
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: Anybody who were hesitant about the yellows, like twelve hours

877
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: later they came around because the.

878
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 5: Big guy like the yellow.

879
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, the big guys don't like all wh right, Like

880
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 6: big guys are all we all white, we look fat.

881
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 5: They hate wearing all white.

882
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 6: So yellow they're gonna be like I saw Andrew Whitworth

883
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 6: said something like, I remember when we did the yellows

884
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 6: and I just looked like big bird out there. So

885
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 6: you know, Joe might not like it, but so old lineman,

886
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 6: but I think they're gonna be.

887
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: Sweetie Becking in the gold is something to see.

888
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 6: Makay likes. Makai looks trying to, you know, get his

889
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 6: swag right. So you were in New York took yeah,

890
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 6: So MacKaye probably really tried to find a way to

891
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 6: to make it look sweet on him, or at least

892
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 6: what he thinks looks sweet.

893
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 4: But I'll finish with this. I don't know Chris has

894
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 4: anything else. Just you know, you seem like someone that

895
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 4: that gets out there. Have you gotten out around town?

896
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: Like how how is La? It's obviously a little bit

897
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: different than Minnesota and New York. Yeah, just kind of

898
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: your impressions.

899
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 6: I haven't done too much yet, just because my wife

900
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 6: hasn't been here. She's kind of the one that like

901
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 6: drags me out of the house and we got a

902
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 6: we got a seven month old son, so that limits

903
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 6: too much exploring. But when she gets out here, I mean,

904
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 6: we've done like our beach days and she's excited. When

905
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 6: when I came from my visit, she was just like

906
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 6: at home praying that I was gonna sign here.

907
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 5: So I called. She's like, oh, and I'm like, yeah,

908
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 5: we're staying. She was just losing it.

909
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 6: We've been somewhere cold in my whole career, like that's

910
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 6: college at Central Michigan, went to Minnesota, went to New

911
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 6: Jersey from Michigan. So she's like, I guess you live

912
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 6: on the beach and in decent. We're warm for the

913
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 6: first time in my life.

914
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: That's right.

915
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 5: So getting her back to Michigan is going to be

916
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 5: the hard part.

917
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: Right, Well, maybe that's just stay a couple of Super Bowls, O.

918
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 5: You make it your extension and hang around exactly.

919
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: Well, hey, Tyler, we were pumped to see you in

920
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: powder blue gold Navy but whatever it.

921
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 5: Is, man, best jerseys in the league, no doubt.

922
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 2: No, we appreciate your time.

923
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 5: Man, I appreciate you guys.

924
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks to sobody.

925
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: We didn't really get an opportunity to talk to Tyler

926
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: during the off season, so good conversation day one in

927
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 3: the books.

928
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know we talked about it before he

929
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 4: joined us for the interview. He's going to be important.

930
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: I think people are really starting to come around to

931
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 4: that idea from it being a are you going to

932
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 4: draft Tyler Warren or Colston Lovelin to you know, having

933
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 4: ingram was your visiting and I think once all of

934
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 4: that got squared away and now people it's not just

935
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: a tight end. It's a tight end in an offense

936
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 4: with a certain quarterback. All of that they can't throw

937
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 4: to themselves, catch them, you know, catch the ball that

938
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 4: you know they can't do it all. They've got to

939
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: be in the right place with the right offense. And

940
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 4: we've set it repeatedly. You know that that gero that

941
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 4: Greg Roman is going to feature tight ends and he

942
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: is going to make sure that Tyler Conklin has opportunities.

943
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 4: And if you tell me you can get a guy

944
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 4: that's athletic. As you know, he said, former basketball player

945
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 4: who doesn't drop the ball. That's going to go a

946
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 4: long way with Justin Herbert, like that is going to go.

947
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 4: Herbert is a trust quarterback.

948
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: He always has been. You know.

949
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 4: That's why Keenan had a hundred plus tardt you know

950
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 4: catches every single year because he implicitly trusted him.

951
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: That's why Mike Williams got all.

952
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: Those fifty fifty balls down the field when plays broke

953
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 4: down and he would just huck it down to him

954
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: because he trusted him. That's just the type of quarterback

955
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 4: he is. And to have a tight end, it's like

956
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 4: going through a season with seventy targets and one drop

957
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 4: that's gonna play like that's going to play with Herbert

958
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 4: and with with g Row and with this offense.

959
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: Just to put a button on on the Mike Williams thing.

960
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: I think we said it at the top, looking internally,

961
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: seems to be the consensus at least at the beginning

962
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: of camp. Seeing what you have with you mentioned Jalen Rager,

963
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: the two rookies. I think Trey Harris gets in here

964
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: sooner than later. Lad Quintin from a trade perspective, Is

965
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: there any name that you think would make sense.

966
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 4: I just don't feel like they're that type of team. Yeah,

967
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 4: but you know they look they made trades last year.

968
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 4: They brought in Elijah Molden and he shined. I think

969
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 4: for this, you know, obviously, Terry McLaurin comes to mind,

970
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: just because if things are gonna get that soide, I

971
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 4: just don't Washington can't afford to let him go. Like

972
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 4: you look at the rest of that wide receiver room.

973
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 4: They're coming off a trip the NFC Championship Game with

974
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 4: a second year quarterback, and you're gonna take one of

975
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 4: the best wide receivers in the league away from him.

976
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen.

977
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 4: So outside of that, I don't.

978
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: I don't know.

979
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 4: I'd have to probably think a little, you know, because

980
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 4: this news was sprung on us right before we walked

981
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 4: in here. I'd probably have to really rack my brain

982
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 4: and think about it.

983
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: Terry's the only like big name out there that it

984
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 3: seems to be kind of in a in a real

985
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: contract dispute with Washington right now.

986
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: But it's he wants thirty million plus.

987
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: And he deserves it. He does.

988
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 4: He's that good man I'll tell you I did the

989
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 4: broadcast boot camp with him about two months ago and

990
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 4: we ended up hanging out a little bit and chatting

991
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 4: and one of.

992
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: The nicest, class, great dudes.

993
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 4: And like, now again, I'm clocking in at a cool

994
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty pounds, so I'm not saying the

995
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: same thickness.

996
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: But he's built like me, like he's not. It's weird

997
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: to see him.

998
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 7: I'm like, you're scary, Terry, and like I'm I'm high

999
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 7: level with you, and you know, you're not like this

1000
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 7: hulking you know, like when you see him Mon Ra,

1001
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 7: he's like a thick dude, And when you see Terry mclaur.

1002
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: And you're like, huh, how about that.

1003
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 4: It's just one of those sort of just the way

1004
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 4: he play, And I think that speaks to how tough

1005
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 4: a player he is. That that's that he's that physical

1006
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: of a receiver, that he's that good and contested catch

1007
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 4: situations and playing through contact. I mean, he's one of

1008
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 4: the best in the league. I'm I mean, one of

1009
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 4: the greatest catches I've ever seen in my life was

1010
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 4: that opener against Washington on the road when I thought

1011
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 4: it was an interception I called it as an interception,

1012
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 4: and I can't remember who it was. Who was it

1013
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 4: a Looey or Michael Davis might have been Michael David.

1014
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 4: It was Michael Davis. Went through his hands, like the

1015
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 4: ball went through his hands and McLaurin is falling to

1016
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 4: the turf and somehow sees it go through his hands

1017
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 4: secures the catch. It was remarkable.

1018
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 2: So so you don't want.

1019
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: To take that path to say they're not trading him.

1020
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think so either, but he you know

1021
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 3: what the thing is, he's thirty. Mike Williams is thirty.

1022
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: Just leave you some context. I think that the reason

1023
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: why Washington Is hasn't to give him big thirty plus

1024
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: million money is because they don't want to pay him

1025
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: at thirty four, right, you know, and he.

1026
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: Probably wants a four year deal right a year. So

1027
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's it's an interesting you see both sides.

1028
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 3: But I think I'm excuse me, aligned with you that

1029
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: Mike Williams being gone, Trey Harris KALs Rager, everybody needs

1030
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: to step up, and everybody just gets moved up a

1031
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 3: pecking order.

1032
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 4: At least they'll they'll give them the look is what

1033
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 4: is what is one of coaches mantras? Right, I'll finish

1034
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 4: up talking too much. It's competitors welcome. So why would

1035
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 4: he want to take the competition away from the guys

1036
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 4: that he preaches go out there and compete. All right,

1037
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 4: Mike's you know, Mike's retiring. We wish him the best.

1038
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 4: He's a great guy. Now show me what you got. Yeah,

1039
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 4: here's the competition. It's open, it's yours, Trey Harris. Hopefully

1040
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 4: that gets done here in the next few hours. And

1041
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 4: you know KALs And and Rager and Quintin, Brendan Rice,

1042
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 4: you know, getting the Rice and let's see what you.

1043
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: Got a lot of people asking about Brennan and Rice too,

1044
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 3: So opportunities.

1045
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: Still out there, still wearing number eighty two.

1046
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: All rybody, this was fun day one in the books.

1047
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: Thank you to Tyler Cockland for money.

1048
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: I am Chris. This has been Chargers Weekly. We'll see

1049
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: you next week.