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Speaker 1: Welcome to pod Meet's world. I'm Danielle fisheral, I'm Riders Strong,

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Speaker 1: episode eleven, The Beard. It originally aired December ninth, nineteen

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Speaker 1: forgot her name until I saw it in the credits

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00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: and I was like, I know her face that is

425
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 1: the sister was the original Topanca and so connected the

426
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 1: dods UM and then yeah, and it was also interested

427
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: Hayley Johnson, who's in this episode. Her sister, Ashley Johnson

428
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 1: is it was a child actress who worked with my

429
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: brother on a show called Maybe This Time, UM, a

430
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: pilot that didn't get picked up. And then she was

431
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: in a bunch of stuff. She's still in a bunch

432
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: of stuff and will you know where now right? Yeah,

433
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: she as she's a friend, she's she is with the

434
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: crew over a critical role and she's a D and

435
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: D buddy so and she's she's engaged my friend Brian.

436
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're right. Yeah, I saw Ashley like a

437
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 1: week ago. That's so funny. Um, so did you know

438
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: her sister when you saw her in this episode? You

439
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh instant, because because she and Ashley looks

440
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: so similar, they do. Right. It was so funny to

441
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: see Haley's face, like I remember her from this episode,

442
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: but I also feel like she looks like somebody else,

443
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: and I like to put it all together. Yeah, there

444
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: is no Yeah, no, I've known Ashley for for years

445
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 1: and years and years. Yeah. She's a big voice over

446
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: actor too, so I mean I I've worked I think

447
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: the first time I worked with Ashley she was like

448
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: eleven or something like that. I mean, we've known each

449
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: other for a long time. Yea. So, jumping back into

450
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: our recap in the school cafeteria, Sean can't decide between

451
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: the note passers Stacy and Linda. If he rejects Linda,

452
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: she'll get upset, but if he rejects Stacy, she may

453
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: get a sex change operation and come back as a

454
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: very angry man. Weird out of nowhere joke, I know,

455
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: and also then he says, hey, I've seen it happen,

456
00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,239
Speaker 1: so yeah, really okay comes out of nowhere, and then

457
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: Corey says, just choose, like when you picked between meat

458
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: loaf and chicken at lunch. Right. Then Sean realizes something

459
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: and asks, how do you know if you're having an idea?

460
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: I love dumb Sean. Yeah, I don't hate dumb Sean either,

461
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: if I dumb all right, yeah, yeah, okay, I kind

462
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: of like dumb Sean more than I like angsty Sean.

463
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: But I gotta see what where angsty Sean goes. I

464
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: think I'm I mean, I don't think I like either.

465
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: So but okay, no, you know, I definitely am not. Yeah, like,

466
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not comfortable with it, but I

467
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: guess maybe I'm not going to be comfortable with anything. No,

468
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to be comfortable. And I

469
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: think it's also one of the things I don't think

470
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: you're comfortable with is I don't think you'll ever see

471
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: yourself as funny when actually you are. You were very funny, yeah,

472
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: and I don't think you ever. I think one of

473
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: the reasons you're funny is because you don't think you're funny,

474
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: so you don't play it for the joke. Yeah, and

475
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: it comes off as funny. It's funny. I mean, you

476
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: was saying so earnestly, how do you know when you're

477
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: having an idea? It was funny? It's so funny. It's

478
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: so it's so funny. I really enjoy dumb Sean. It's

479
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: literally one of my funny I I you know, I

480
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: just feel like I'm looking at this show and looking

481
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 1: at my acting. Um, I just feel like I'm out

482
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: of control. Like I feel like I have no control.

483
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm just sort of lurching from

484
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: beat to beat, which maybe makes it a little real

485
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: or something. But um, watching it, I'm uncomfortable with my performance.

486
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, why didn't I work on that a little

487
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: bit more? Or like, I don't know, it just feels

488
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: off to me. But you know, I think a lot

489
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: of that is just insecurity looking at you know, myself

490
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: in an awkward stage of life and feeling awkward about it.

491
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but I don't know. I mean, compared to

492
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: like Will, I feel like you were like you guys

493
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: both are your present You're like presentable in a way

494
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: that like I've every time I'm on the screen, I'm like,

495
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: this kid's just a mess. There's no idea what he's doing,

496
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: like just all over the place, like my face and

497
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: my mouth and my eyes like I'm just not like

498
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I just did. I don't

499
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: feel presentable. I feel again, it's probably just my insecurity,

500
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: Like it's a weird It's gotta be because it looks great.

501
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: It did. It's a great character. I mean, it's a

502
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: great character, and it's a perfect foil for Corey and

503
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: the two of you work together really really well. And

504
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: I had to pang it in when when there's episodes

505
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: where it's the three of you, there's something about the

506
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: trinity of the three of you that just the it

507
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: balances perfectly. It really does. Yeah, I guess I do

508
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: feel I guess I like the stuff with Corey in particular, Like, yeah, um,

509
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's probably me just judging my own

510
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: appearance more than anything, you know, I just feel awkward. Yeah,

511
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what you're talking about. Your

512
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: mouth and your eyes stay stayed on your face. They

513
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 1: are in different there, They're never different directions at they

514
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: are always on your face, and your face is always

515
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: where it's supposed to be, and so yeah, I don't

516
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: I don't know it. Then we're in the school hallway.

517
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: Corey called Sean a sick and twisted individual, but Sean

518
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: thinks he's a visionary because he wants Corey to date

519
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: one girl while he dates the other, and that way

520
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: she's off the market until he's ready to date her.

521
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: And Corey says, you want me to keep her fresh?

522
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: What am I tupperware? Which is exactly on the nose

523
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: because later Eric calls it right out. You're you're safe,

524
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: You're bubble wrap, bubble rap exactly. Corey says he has

525
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: things to do. He can't date her. His calendar has

526
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: Lincoln's birthday Sinco de Mayo and a warning to reorder

527
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: the calendar in it, so obviously he's jammed. Remember calendars, guys,

528
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: physical calendars. Will has a giant one, Yeah, Will huge,

529
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: And it's the only thing that's that's determining my life

530
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: right now. But I remember people used to have to

531
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: have pocket calendars, right, oh yeah, the time all go.

532
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: Like my dad always had one the fire department would

533
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: give him every year, and I started I started using them.

534
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: When I was a teenager, we would get them from

535
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: the San Francisco Fire Department. There were these little pocket

536
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: calendars that you have and they were great. I have

537
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: one that I carried around and it's Bill to this

538
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: day has every single letter from my freshman year boyfriend

539
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: Jeff Arnell. Wow. So Sean says he's going to go

540
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: out with the first girl that comes up to him,

541
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: while Corey will go out with the other. And then

542
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: Stacy comes over and she says hi, But he can't

543
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: decide who he wants. He's still stuck between Stacy and Linda.

544
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: He wants both, and actually I think Linda comes up first.

545
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: Linda comes up to him, it says Stacy. Linda is

546
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: the one who comes over first. And then he still stucks.

547
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: So Corey says, fine, he wants Debbie and Sean no, yeah,

548
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: And Sean says, but I want Debbie, and then Corey

549
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: yell's there is no Debbie and you very perfectly say

550
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: there's a Debbie somewhere. Can I say something very quickly

551
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: about it's Haley, right, Haley Johnson. She was so perfectly

552
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: cast as a seventh grader. I'm now putting it in

553
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: my head that this is the seventh grade, and we've

554
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: had some storylines and some stuff that happens some people

555
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: that have been cast where it's like, wow, they don't

556
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: look like they're seventh graders. She perfectly looks like a

557
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: nice seventh grader. Well, see, I was during this episode.

558
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: I was looking at how much Ben and I look

559
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: older from when we started this season. Yeah, like it's

560
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: already the progression, Like I feel like we're high scorers.

561
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: Like I'm looking at it going, yeah, oh yeah, I'm

562
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: definitely like I look like I'm in ninth grade or tenth. Yeah.

563
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: You know, that's what I really liked about beginning of

564
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: the season. I didn't so yeah, yeah, everyone's changing very

565
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: quick at this age. But I thought she was perfectly

566
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: cast because I feel the same way. But I wonder

567
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: how much of it because I felt the same way

568
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: even about myself. When I saw my face, I was like, wow,

569
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: my face has gotten so much more mature. I wonder

570
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: how much of it, though, is just us actually feeling

571
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 1: more comfortable seeing ourselves in those sets and seeing us

572
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: around the other background actors who all look older. I

573
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: wonder if we think we've aged up more than we

574
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: really have I don't know, riders super comfortable with it.

575
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: So that's obviously what it is. The other thing I'd

576
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: like to talk about about this episode and the last episode,

577
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: the writing staff has now let Seinfeld completely permeate the

578
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: writer's room. Oh really, because the last two episodes have

579
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: just had Seinfeld and Seinfeld moments inside. It's just there's

580
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: it's It was obviously huge in the lex kon at

581
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: the time, and so there have been moments that have

582
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: been like, oh, that's right from Seinfeld. Oh that's directly

583
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: and this is one of them or what there there's

584
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: a bunk. I mean, there's there's a couple of moments

585
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: that happier happen here with like you know, the who's well,

586
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: who's Debbie? I mean like all that kind of stuff

587
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: like that is there are some Seinfeld isms there, you know,

588
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: before U Ben Mike raving his socks, there's a whole thing.

589
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: There's a whole storyline about Kramer always wanting his stuff warm,

590
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: so putting. So the question, and I don't know if

591
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: we came first or they came first. We all Seinfeld

592
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: started in nineteen eighty nine and was on for nine seasons,

593
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: so it was already like in its prime it did.

594
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: But the but the episodes where Kramer is doing his

595
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: socks and his clothes come later in the season, so

596
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe this was earlier. I don't know,

597
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: but there's definite Seinfeld references that are now starting to

598
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: happen on the show. Hm, well, there you go. We

599
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: have also been accused of stealing things from friends very

600
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: consciously did South Park references on what did we from friends? Well,

601
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: I actually think maybe it's not things that were in

602
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: the show. But you know that very famous photo of

603
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: the four of us all lying on each other in

604
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: a little square format like in the Park that was

605
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: apparently like it had already been done by friends. Oh,

606
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: I think they all looked. I don't feel like the

607
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: opening our opening credit sequence a lot. Yeah, something about

608
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: the friends, Yeah, yeah, at the end especially, Yeah, I

609
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: think the on and off again relationship stuff too. I

610
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: don't know, I think that's a regular basic television trope

611
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: at the time, though, yeah, exactly, it's just kind of

612
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: maybe from us, Maybe they stole it from us. How

613
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: about that? How about that Courtney Cox called her out?

614
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: I love friends anyway, So we're in the school hallway.

615
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: Frankie asks Joey if he forgot to do something on

616
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: this Friday afternoon, and Joey says, yeah, he forgot to

617
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: clean out his locker. He opens the locker and two

618
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: very cute little nerds run out. Corey overhears Roy asking

619
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: Linda out, so Corey decides to run interference to get

620
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: him to go away, and Linda is thankful. Linda asks

621
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: Corey if Sean is avoiding her, and then Sean runs

622
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: over to Corey, sees Linda and quickly runs away because

623
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: he's avoiding her. Corey says that he's just shy, and

624
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: he compliments Linda, and Sean is probably intimidated because she

625
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: has such a beautiful smile and she's sweet and she's smart,

626
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: and I thought, wow, Ben is so Corey is so

627
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: confident when he's talking the Ladies Man, and now he's

628
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: got women all over to him again, and he's so

629
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: naturally charismatic, and he have an easy conversation when this

630
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: they're with this girl, when he's able to do it.

631
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: From the standpoint of talking about Sean, Yeah, it's also

632
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 1: funny because like Sean is established as this like ladies

633
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: man or whatever, but like I'm kind of all over

634
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: the place. I'm not and I've never kissed anybody on

635
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: the show yet. I mean there was the one, the

636
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: one episode where I was in a locker with a girl,

637
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: But like we've watched Corey like yeah, a lot of

638
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: different girls, not just to Panga, but like multiple episodes

639
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: now where he's been aggressive or you know, but he

640
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: just talks a lot about being nervous, but he actually

641
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: pretty confident and funny and tier. When they opened the

642
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: closet door in the seven minutes in Heaven episode, were

643
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: you actually kissing her? Then? I came out with a

644
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: different shirt on. Yeah, so I have not had an

645
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: in the locker, in the locker room, the locker when

646
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: you're in there, you didn't see it there in Yeah, yeah, yeah,

647
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: well I thought the same thing. I was like, you know,

648
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: for the guy who is so nerdy, never gets invited anywhere,

649
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't have any friends, he's the most popular kid

650
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: in school. He's got women all over the place, He's

651
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: going to every single party. It's like, oh, Corey's actually

652
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: a pretty popular dude. Yeah, there's something, you know, this

653
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: is something that's all it's always struck me about. Boy

654
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: Mee's world. And I think it's part of the form itself,

655
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: part of sitcom in general, which is that there is

656
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: this it's like a play and and and we've talked

657
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: about that a bunch, but like part of the play

658
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: nature is that you're kind of told things more than

659
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: you're shown things. So like we're told a lot who

660
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: our characters are, and we talk about who our characters are,

661
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: so like we're told who Corey is, we're told who

662
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: Sean is, in a way that in a single camera

663
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: show or in a movie, you wouldn't rely on people's

664
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: dialogue to describe characters as often as you do in

665
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: a sitcom. In a sitcom, we're literally like, well, Sean,

666
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: you're always doing this, and Corey euro And it always

667
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: struck me as odd and never felt like I feel like,

668
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, like I'm giving credit four

669
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: Like I've always felt like Sean is given credit for

670
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: being this like bad boy who's always in trouble and

671
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: the ladies man. But in reality, I didn't actually play

672
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: that that often. Does that make sense? Like it just

673
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: sort of said that that was my character in a

674
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: way that like in any other context, if I was

675
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: in a movie, I would have played Sean differently because

676
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: I would have been I would have been acting those

677
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: things out as opposed to verbally reinforcing them. But something

678
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: about you know about the form of sitcom, and especially

679
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: our show in particular, it's a lot of talk, and

680
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: it's a lot of explaining characters, and then you know,

681
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: to a way that I felt uncomfortable with later in

682
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: later seasons where I would feel like we're just talking

683
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: about who we are a lot, and which I'm curious

684
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: to revisit, you know, by like fifth season, I feel

685
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: like we're always like, but your Corey, who does this

686
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: and this and this and this? And it's like, why

687
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: don't we just have actions that describe or that illustrate that,

688
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: as opposed to verbally describing that. And that was something

689
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: that frustrated me about the form of sitcom. What I

690
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: was thinking about when you just said that is what

691
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: an actual perfect way of creating instant conflict to only

692
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: have to show if you have to show the who

693
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: they are with action and then create conflict by seeing

694
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: them do the other part of that, it's much it's

695
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: a much longer situation where what's the instant conflict? If

696
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: I say, but Corey, you're always the good guy, and

697
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: yet actually every time we see Corey he's always in trouble,

698
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: and with Sean it's the opposite. Sean, Well, Sean's the troublemaker.

699
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: And what do we actually see is always Sean being

700
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: sensitive and Sean not getting into trouble and the formula, Yeah,

701
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: this is the soft This is how Boy's World did it, right,

702
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 1: I mean, this is how you compress that much meaning

703
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: into a two minute episode, right, like, and it's it's

704
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: it's it's tricky, like, but yeah, I feel like that

705
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: is the formula for Boyme's World because I never felt

706
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: like Sean was actually a bad person, Like he was

707
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: never actually breaking the rules or actually doing anything, you know,

708
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: besides like changing the poenie to weenie like, which is

709
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: also kind of you know, there was all this talk,

710
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: there was all this explaining to the audience like this

711
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: is who these people are, and yeah, you know, and

712
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: I think, especially for kids, you absorb those those those

713
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: verbal descriptions almost as equally as you do what's actually

714
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: happening on screen, so you know, and you give them

715
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: just enough to to to uphold what you've said. So

716
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: for you, it was blowing up the mailbox. You got

717
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: that one episode. That's the biggest thing we could do,

718
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: is you blowing up the mailbox. And now we buy it.

719
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: You can say anything about Sean being a rebel, and

720
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: that foundation has already been laid. And then for Corey,

721
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: we do the thing with the seven minutes in Heaven.

722
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: We see him get humiliated once and now we just

723
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: no matter what else we show, we accept well, we've

724
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: seen it, we've seen it, and you've said it about

725
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: bunch of times. It must be true. Um so, yeah,

726
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: very very interesting. Uh So, Linda asks Corey why he's

727
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: not intimidated, and then we get a little flirty moment

728
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: of silence between the two of them, and then we

729
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: are in Chubbies. Frankie and Joey are standing at the

730
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: jukebox when Frankie asks two girls if they want to dance,

731
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: and when they say yes, Joey says, okay, go dance

732
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: and sits back to watch and the girls shake their

733
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: head like and walk away. And then Corey brings Linda

734
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: to Chubbies for the first time. She says she's always

735
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: heard it was a dive and he said it used

736
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: to be a dive, but now it's a rat hole.

737
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: Hold on, So no Danny in this episode. Huh No, No,

738
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: So they were just picking and choosing. It must have

739
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: been a budget thing. Yeah, they were constantly trying. Yeah,

740
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: well they have two guest stars. Yeah, it's just like

741
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: we had a serious number of guests, like a limited

742
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: number of guest stars, and then they just would write

743
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: to that that's exactly what it has to be. Well,

744
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: Linda asks for a menu from mister Chubby, and Corey

745
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: is embarrassed. He calls her a for an exchange student,

746
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: saying nicht on the menu, and he says, you can't

747
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: just come in here for like as a first time

748
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: or in order. Corey says Chubby doesn't like that she

749
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 1: has to act like a regular, and then he tells

750
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: her how to order, which is a very detailed exchange

751
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: and yeah it's by the way, this is very famous

752
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: and the boy meets World lexicon. The I didn't ordering

753
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: at all. I didn't I wasn't remember. I didn't even

754
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: remember that we ever saw Chubby. But again, this is

755
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: this is the Seinfeld thing. This is exactly this This

756
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: a souper Nazi. It's the same. There's an ordering thing

757
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: and you won't get I mean, it's all taken right

758
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: from something right. I didn't think about that to complain,

759
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: Its completely the same storyline. So Linda follows Corey's lead

760
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: on how to order a turkey chubby with everything, and

761
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: then she orders a diet soda and he pours out

762
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: half of a regular soda and says half the calories.

763
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: Very funny, very funny. Capitos is a big character actor.

764
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: By the way, this was good. He's so great, such

765
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: a good get for our show, though. I mean he's

766
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: been in He's that kind's been around forever and he's

767
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: been in everything. So yeah, it was I remember seeing

768
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: him on the set and be like, oh my god,

769
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: I've watched this guy in a thousand things. Yeah, really cool.

770
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: They walk over to a booth and Linda asks why

771
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: Corey isn't sitting next to her, and this gets a

772
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: who from the audience, and just as they get comfortable,

773
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: Sean and Stacy walk in and then Linda kisses Corey.

774
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: Corey is almost speechless, but Sean didn't see it. Shan

775
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: looks over. They exchange a thumbs up, and this is

776
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: all just a bit and much for Corey. Great thumbs

777
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: up between the two of you. M h, I love

778
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: a good thumbs up. So this is this was cool

779
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: to see this episode and this scene in particular, and

780
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: then the next one in Choby's because this is where

781
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: I became friends with someone who is still like one

782
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: of my best friends in life. Um, she's in the background.

783
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: She was actually Aaron. I don't you guys remember Aaron? Yeah,

784
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: Aaron who she was. She grew up with Ben. Actually

785
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: that's how she was there. She and Ben were friends

786
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: when they were like six and seven back in Chicago,

787
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: and she came out to LA for this episode to

788
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: visit him, and we met filming this scene and sat

789
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: and chubbies and talked. And then later on that week Ben, Aaron, Patrick,

790
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: Renna who I had done summertime switched with, and I

791
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: think some other people. I don't know if either of

792
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: you guys were there. We all went to Burbank and

793
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: watched Quiz Show, which was Michael's movie. We went to

794
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: the movie theater to watch Quiz Show and I bought

795
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: the Blind Melon CD there. Yeah, I think you were

796
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: there too. From it was one of the first CDs

797
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: I remember buying, and I loved that I loved that band.

798
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: It became a Dancing girl. Yeah, but at that album,

799
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: like I bought it from a vending machine at the

800
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: Burbank AMC for whatever theater we went to flood Ruckers. Anyway,

801
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: It's just so funny. As I was, I had the

802
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: flood of memories and I could see there's Aaron in

803
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: the background in the scene as an extra, and we

804
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: sat and talked and we started a She went back

805
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: to Chicago after visiting for the week and we started

806
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: a phone letter relationship friendship that has lasted to this day. Now.

807
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: I'm still best friends with her and her now her

808
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: husband and her two daughters, and we see each other

809
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: all the time. And it was so funny because I

810
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: texted her a couple of months ago. I was like,

811
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: I think your episode's coming up. Do you remember what

812
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: it's called. She's like, my mom said it was called

813
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: The Beard. I'm like, that doesn't sound like a Boyman's

814
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: World titled what is the Beard? She's like, yeah, sorry,

815
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: She's like, all your remembers that I yelled scum at

816
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: one point. Ye. Anyway, It's just like, yeah, so Aaron

817
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: is still like one of my and it was so

818
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: cool to see this in New York. No, she's in Chicago.

819
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: She she keep she moved out here for a while.

820
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: She and her husband lived in San Diego for years,

821
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: and now they went back to Chicago. So that, by

822
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: the way, the Weird also the name of a Seinfeld episode,

823
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Ye? Oh my god? Same. They literally

824
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: called the Beard. Yep. Ye. That is the most nineties

825
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: or writer. We went to fud Ruckers. I thought of

826
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: Blind Melon from a great movie. Yes, incredible. Yeah, see

827
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: Quiz Show. If you haven't seen it, you should. Jeff

828
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: McCracken and Michael Jacob's producers on that movie. So um,

829
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: we're in the Matthews kitchen. Corey and Eric are setting

830
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: the table with their dad when Alan asks if they

831
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: remember the little conversation they had about women yesterday, and

832
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: Corey says yes. As a matter of fact, he needs

833
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: some advice. Alan says, men are creatures of action, and

834
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: he calls Amy downstairs. She's wearing another very cool bolo tie.

835
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys caught it this, I did,

836
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: I did. I also in the work three piece suit

837
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: that she's still in, it's a peplam a peplum skirt.

838
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: Suit with a bolo tie and white tights. I did

839
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: notice remember when we had Marguerite on and she was

840
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: like the white tights. I've noticed a lot of white tights.

841
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: Sarah marco Witz a big fan of white tights. I

842
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: want to I want to make a note about that.

843
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: Pepsi and peplum peplum. Absolutely PEPSI get it for your

844
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: peplum um. Alan says he is taking charge of the

845
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: car purchasing so she can avoid all the things she

846
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: hates about the process. Alan then takes Amy outside to

847
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: show her the nineteen ninety nineteen ninety five minivan he bought.

848
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: Can we talk about where we never see the car?

849
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: Never see the car? But also where's their driveway? Where?

850
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: I don't know? I was so frustrated. I was like, wait,

851
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: they pull around this side, which is didn't Grandma was

852
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: a rolling Ston't she run to the other side. Yes,

853
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: people come from the other direction all the time. House.

854
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: It makes no sense, I mean, the truth really is.

855
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: It just is what's convenient for camera for camera. So

856
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: it just made sense that they wanted him to pull

857
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: her outside and for her to see it. But so

858
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: why if the car is parked over there? Why would

859
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: the front door be on the other side? Makes no

860
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: sense at all? Can I also ask, is what he

861
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: did so awful? I'm curious for two months that they've

862
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: wanted this car, they've set it up, that it's been

863
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: two months that she's trying to decide what car it is.

864
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: They finally get to a knight. Isn't it supposed to

865
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: be her decision? Right? But she does. She says, I

866
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: like the I like the minivan. He's like, pick a color,

867
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: and then he even loots the fact that he's you

868
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: said green with the tan and terrier. She picked the

869
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: car and then picked the color and he went out

870
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: thought I think what because I was thinking about this too,

871
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: and I think what the idea was is that she

872
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: never said there, that's it, I'm settled, go get now

873
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: we can go get it. She said, hmmm, minivan, yeah,

874
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: green Beisian terrier m And he was like, great, I'm

875
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: gonna go do that, and she was like, I never

876
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: gave you the go ahead. It's been two months of this.

877
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: This is not we've just started. We started talking about

878
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: buying a car like a monster, right, definitely don't see this.

879
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: But the point is that she's I just I just

880
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: think that, Yeah, he's the one that wants to drive it. Yeah,

881
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: she should probably let her be a part of the

882
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: process as much as she wants to be. So I

883
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: think she was. She picked the car and the color,

884
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: and then he went and bought it because they set up. Hey,

885
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: you hate talking to the dealership, you hate doing this stuff.

886
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: You picked the car, you picked the color. I went

887
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: and got it for you. But she also probably hates

888
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: being rushed into something that she didn't. You know what

889
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: the question is, what is rushing after what? Whatever she decides,

890
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't get the decide. So if he's paying for

891
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: the car, he doesn't get to decide. He's a galorest.

892
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is one where I was paying

893
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: for it together there and it's gonna be her car

894
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: and they made the decision. So she she I don't

895
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: think you get anything absolutely wrong, but I definitely think that,

896
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: Like but the where she says, whoa, I didn't you know, Yeah,

897
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: I think we should have a little I think this

898
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: was a little too much like this is women are

899
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: this way, and look how dumb the man is. And

900
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: it's like his wife picked the car and picked the color,

901
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: and he went and bought it, So I don't think

902
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: the show reduces it too. I think it did. I mean,

903
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: I think it's time. I think it was. I think

904
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: it was a little like this is what women want kids,

905
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: and then it's like you don't know women at all,

906
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, well it's one bragging about how

907
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: much men are this way, and men are people of

908
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: action and we go out and do things. So I

909
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: think that's the argument that's under my not that he's

910
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: a bad person, right, but it's us would have made

911
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: more sense that but again, you're not rushing into something

912
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: after two months of deciding what it is. That was

913
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: my problem with it. It's like, hey, if the line

914
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: had simply been, hey, have you picked your car yet?

915
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? We decided to get it on Friday,

916
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: give me a chance to look. But it wasn't. It

917
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: was you've been looking at this for two months. Now

918
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: you've gone, I want a minivan. Hey it's the mini.

919
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: Meant it showed how like stupid the man was. Because

920
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: what I didn't enjoy about it is how waffly it made.

921
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: That's what I mean women. Yeah, and then it was like,

922
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: you know, exactly, there's stereotypes something else, but you know

923
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: what kind of wants for me. Yes, but I know,

924
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: but and I like those things in the past though.

925
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: But like a lot of things in Boy Meets World,

926
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: I thought the end game was pretty great. Like I

927
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: thought the like therapy session at the end, it was funny.

928
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: It was it was funny, and it was like and

929
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: I love the way both both Betsy and Rusty play

930
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: it for realism, like they play true right, And I

931
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: don't know, I just you know, because I had similar

932
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: stuff with like the way Sean and Corey are in

933
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: the beginning of this episode is pretty despicable, right, Like

934
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: it's pretty awful, like the way that they're talking about

935
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: women and well sure that's the point. They get to

936
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: a place where they're you know, made to look like

937
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: the asses that they've been and it's like, okay, good,

938
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: Like so I feel like, you know, I don't have

939
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: that same kind of I don't. I just we've done,

940
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: we've it's it's it's a sitcom. I get that. But

941
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: we've always talked about how one of the things that

942
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: we avoided, especially with Alan and Amy, was kind of

943
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: like he's the dumb husband and I know where it

944
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: is it's like, it's never really that. And I felt

945
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: like it kind of hit that this same a little

946
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: bit where it was like, you know, because I didn't

947
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: tell him, he wouldn't know, and it's like, Okay, I

948
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: just it this thing that I was so proud that

949
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: they'd avoided for so long. I felt like they kind

950
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: of leaned in. Yeah, I guess it is kind of

951
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: punitive towards him because he ends up being at the

952
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: end having to give in and go Yeah, of course,

953
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: I guess I need therapy because I went out and

954
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: bought you the car you wanted, like yikes. And it

955
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: was just I don't know if I get the sitcom thing,

956
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: but I loved how we avoided that for so long,

957
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: and it just seemed like this episode was kind of

958
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't it seemed I didn't like that. I didn't

959
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: like it very much. I just didn't get how it

960
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: was that big a deal. It was right, that was

961
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: the thing. It just I don't know. Yeah, I would

962
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: have rather it be about um a very big purchase

963
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: without including me, because that's that's a conversation almost every

964
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: married couple can have at some point time, and it's

965
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: or it's a if you're going to avoid the situation.

966
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: It's a conversation you have many times throughout the course

967
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: of your marriage. What do we spend money on? Who

968
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: do we have to ask permission before we spend money?

969
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: How do we do ours? Our money all joint? Is

970
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: it is some of it separate? So yeah, I mean

971
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: I can see the idea if we just look at

972
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: it as he made a very large purchase in her

973
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: mind without getting her approval. Even if he so he

974
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: miss interpreted exactly, he misses her out was a good thing,

975
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: and she wanted to be more involved, obviously. That's if

976
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: we just if we can reduce what happened to that

977
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: that he thought he got approval, She says, you did not.

978
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: I was not involved. I never I didn't know this

979
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 1: was happening. And so now there was a very large

980
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: purchase made that she feels like she didn't have input on,

981
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: and I guess that was I guess maybe it's a

982
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: writing thing for me because when they point out that

983
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: she's been looking at the car for two months, right,

984
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: she's now picked a color and an interior, then you're

985
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: fully involved in the decision. Yeah, you made the decision,

986
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: so it has to tie into the a storyline which

987
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: has to do with you know, so every guess. I

988
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: guess it's just a writing anything for me where it

989
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: was like they could have a couple lines here or there,

990
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: could have changed that entire thing for me. So Amy

991
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 1: is upset. There, okay, Amy is upset Allan impulsively about

992
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: the car and Alan doesn't get it. Amy asks what

993
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: is it with men? They are always in a rush.

994
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: Amy wants to talk in the other room, and that's

995
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: a big uh oh from the audience. Everyone knows. And

996
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: then when they leave, Corey tells Eric about Sean's dating plan,

997
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: and Eric says, this is happening because Corey is safe.

998
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: He's like bubble rap. Corey says, well, women think he's dangerous.

999
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: Eric asks if he means Grandma, and Corey says, yeah,

1000
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: but also Linda, And then he talks about the fact

1001
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: that they kissed on the lips at Chubby's and then

1002
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: as excited, Eric says, everything is okay. Then he's not

1003
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: safe anymore. This is great because Corey and Sean both

1004
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: have girlfriends. Then Eric throws a wrench into the plan

1005
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: because Sean may break up with his girlfriend at any moment,

1006
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: and then he would ruin everything, and Eric has to

1007
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 1: tell him, you have to decide who is more important,

1008
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: your best friend or your girlfriend. You get Eric is,

1009
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: yet we still don't know what he is at this point,

1010
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: he's like was a ladies man. Now he's kind of

1011
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: just the your older brother. But then and it's like

1012
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: we're still finding him, I think, yeah, as as they're

1013
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 1: still trying to figure out how to write for Eric. Yeah,

1014
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: there's definitely there's definitely a little bit of the same way.

1015
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: How the house is set up is based on convenience. Yeah,

1016
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: who Eric is is a little bit of a character

1017
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: of convenience. Who do we need right now, Batt'll be

1018
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: let's give that to Eric. Absolutely. And like you said

1019
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: that with with Ryder, with your character, where you've had

1020
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: the mailbox, like we've established who he is. Eric never

1021
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: really had that kind of like here's what it is.

1022
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: We've established him, so now it's a foregone conclusion how

1023
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: we want him to be in the future. It's just

1024
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: I think you're right, exactly right, Danielle. He's he's he's

1025
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: an MCS your character at this yeah point, he's a

1026
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: character of convenience. And then we fade into mister Finie's classroom,

1027
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: Corey's face becomes mister Finie's face, and Nice dissolve. Mister

1028
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: Feinie continues to talk about the Cuban missile crisis and

1029
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: President Kennedy staring at the destruction of the world, and

1030
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: then Corey yells to give him a break because it's

1031
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: his first big crisis. And I thought, it's a It's

1032
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 1: interesting because this is I think maybe the first time

1033
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: the storyline is about history tying into oh yeah, as

1034
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: opposed to literature. Interesting even though we have Hamlet, it's

1035
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: not really it was really about Hamlet. It's about this

1036
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: history and how it's tying together. So mister Feeney tells

1037
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: Corey to put his head down. It's naptime, and then

1038
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: we're in the school hallway. Stacey tells Sean she wants

1039
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: to see a romantic foreign film, not something where someone's

1040
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: head blows up. And Stacy ends up thinking they may

1041
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: have less in common than she thought, and Sean says

1042
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: they don't have much as much in common as he

1043
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: thought either. Dumb Sean. I like dumb Sean. Okay, also

1044
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: to have dumb thing to have an argument over. But

1045
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: you know, maybe guys are spending too much time together

1046
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: over the last four days. I don't know is why

1047
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: you're supposed to date him on a multiple group of people? Ye,

1048
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 1: lots of people apparently at this age. Yeah. Corey overhears

1049
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: the conversation and tries to help, but Stacy walks away,

1050
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: somewhat ending the honeymoon phase of their relationship. They broke

1051
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: up over what movies they like. Sean thanks Corey for

1052
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: keeping Linda on deck. Looks like he's going to need

1053
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: her after all, and Corey panics and says no, Sean

1054
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: can't live without Stacy, and his voice gets higher and

1055
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: he becomes more panicked, and he tells Sean to goes.

1056
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: He tells Sean to go after Stacy, but then he

1057
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: runs after her himself. Really liked her, Yeah, he set

1058
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: it up with Corey, really likes her. I know. The

1059
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: thing that was so interesting about it is it's like

1060
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: I also I also thought in this moment, I thought, writer,

1061
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: it looked like you had a bit of a knowing

1062
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: smile on your face and not knowing how this episode

1063
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: turned out because I had no memory of it at all.

1064
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: You do then later know that he likes Linda and

1065
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: I liked that as the actor. I really sensed that

1066
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: you showed a little bit that you recognized what was

1067
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: happening in the moment that as he was raising his

1068
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 1: voice and he was telling you to go after Stacy,

1069
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: you were like, he likes Linda. I don't know if

1070
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: I got that. I noticed it. Did rider almost break

1071
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: You had it as a knowing smile. I had it

1072
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: as I thought he was about to start laughing. Interesting,

1073
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 1: I was about to start laughing. I didn't catch that. Yeah,

1074
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: I think you gave a little bit of like a

1075
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: It was a little bit of like a mom, what's

1076
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: going on with Corey? Exactly where? Right? And so? And

1077
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: I liked that because in the moment I thought it,

1078
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: and then later when it comes back, I go, oh,

1079
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: I saw I saw the moment it happened for him.

1080
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: I picked it up. So we're in Chubby's. Stacey is

1081
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: angrily talking to Chubby trying to order a salad, and

1082
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: Chubby says, where do you think you are? The sizzler,

1083
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: and then Corey runs up behind her and tells her

1084
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: how to order the turkey Chubby with everything. Corey says,

1085
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: it's so weird to see her without Sean. He sees

1086
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: them as a couple, even though they've only been dating

1087
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: for four days. He says it feels more like five.

1088
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: Stacy says she doesn't even want to hear the name Sean,

1089
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: so Corey changes his name to Merle when talking about him. Um,

1090
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: he says, them arguing tore him apart, and she says

1091
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: that's so sweet, and Corey says she should really give

1092
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: Merrell a chance and go out for him for like,

1093
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: go out with him for like a year or two

1094
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: a year two. And then Linda comes over and sees

1095
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: Corey sitting in a booth with Stacy holding her hand

1096
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: and telling her how to order at Chubby's. The girls

1097
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: commiserate and call it his routine. Did he teach you

1098
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: how to order? Like so funny? Corey says, I don't

1099
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: have a routine. I don't have boom. Yes, the boom,

1100
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: the boom came out, the boom came Yes, that guys

1101
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: that got the boom. Yeah. When he is he does

1102
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: the he does kind of boom, double fist pumps. I

1103
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: don't think it doubled. I think it was just once.

1104
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: I don't have the boom. I thought he did kind

1105
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: of like I don't think it was a one. It

1106
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: was I did see that. Okay, good Uh the girls

1107
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: say he's not innocent, but Corey swears he's a new

1108
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: newborn lamb and then Ben's so funny. Yep, that was

1109
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: really funny. One thing I noticed about that is still

1110
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: going on and I wrote this specifically down it's still

1111
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: really all Ben carrying this show. Yeah, I mean, he

1112
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: still has it all on his shoulders. The entire show

1113
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: is Ben stressed out. Like watching Corey I was exhausted

1114
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 1: for and just like, oh my god. It literally felt

1115
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: like he was running, running around juggling plates. It was

1116
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 1: just like he was just like, oh my god, he's

1117
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: still he's he's still killing it, and it's like this

1118
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: is all still on Ben. That's crazy, I know. Also

1119
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: we have to say this, the lamb sound is like

1120
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: the ultimate Ben Savage joke. Even loves sounds, impressions of

1121
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: like weird noises, and people do like this what he

1122
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: would be doing behind scenes all the time. It's like, yeah,

1123
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: he weird noises to make us just random sounds like

1124
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: he would just he would just pick up on things.

1125
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: I remember pointed it out to him once. I was like,

1126
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: Ben why do you always just obsessed with weird sounds?

1127
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: Or and he was just so good at it and

1128
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: he didn't always get to do it because I know,

1129
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: I think as the show went later on, Corey starts

1130
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: having weirder voices like do you remember when he in

1131
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: Maitland confronts him and he hadn't Yeah, yeah, right, like

1132
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: his ability to just do weird sounds or like tricks

1133
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: with his voice that You're just like what, I don't

1134
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: know why, but that's the funniest thing I've ever heard,

1135
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: this Lamb Bowman who lost it? But I'm pretty sure

1136
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: Ben is the one who introduced me to the Adam

1137
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 1: Sandler comedy CDs. Of course, yea and the Jerky Boys,

1138
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: which Dustin listen to the Jerky Boys and the Adam

1139
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: Sandler all those like exactly, yeah, he loves that. That. Yeah,

1140
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: he as a kid, that was I was big in

1141
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: our lives um. And then Linda and Stacy both say

1142
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: poor Sean, assuming that Corey is scamming them away from

1143
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: their original crush, and Sean walks up just in time.

1144
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: Sean asks the girls to leave for a second, and

1145
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: both the girls seem very into him again. One says

1146
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: I'll see you later, and then Linda's kisses him on

1147
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: the cheek and says, and I'll see you after that.

1148
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: Wow wow, yikes. Yeah, the first kisses You've got the

1149
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: Riz guys love it. Corey confronts Shawn about being safe

1150
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: and like bubble wrap. Sean knows Corey likes Linda and says, well,

1151
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: that wasn't part of the plan. Corey goes off about

1152
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: Sean's plan, detailing it word for word, and the girls

1153
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: are behind him, listening to every word, both of them. Right,

1154
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: they're both there. Now, this was in like a lot

1155
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: of things, I guess, but I feel like, in particular,

1156
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: wasn't this a Billy Crystal bit in something where it's

1157
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: like they're behind someone's right, baby, It's it's like six

1158
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: cliquers city Slickers. Well, he does one in city Slickers

1159
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: like a repetitive joke. It is just this just felt

1160
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: very familiar to me, and I did like it, like

1161
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: it's funny, but it's also it felt like it's already

1162
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: kind of a tired joke. Yeah, it's an old it's

1163
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: a very old joke. There's behind me, isn't he. Yeah,

1164
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: it's very it's very old. Both to him right. Stacy

1165
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: says she forgot her purse and had to come back.

1166
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: Corey hands it to her and she hits both of

1167
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: the guys with it. The girls are very mad and

1168
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 1: everyone in Chubby's calls them scum in the unison, which

1169
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: is what Aaron remembered, and then Sewan wants to start

1170
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: fresh and they shouldn't treat the girls as objects. Sean

1171
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: says he'll thumb wrestle for the girls, and then Stacy

1172
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: hits him one more time. As everyone claps, Sean bows,

1173
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: but then Corey explains, no, they're clapping because they hate us.

1174
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: Sean then yells and same to you, which it's funny, funny,

1175
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: I like it. Corey and Sean then sit in a

1176
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: booth saying they miss the girls, but now Sean respects

1177
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: Corey because he's dangerous and he can't be trusted around

1178
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: the girls he likes, which I was like, guess the

1179
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: lesson of this show. I don't really know what we've learned.

1180
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure what point Hamlet, we've learned that

1181
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: if we go back to the Cuban missile crisis and

1182
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: the choice between I mean, you know, I heard Michael

1183
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: Jacobs once say that the thing that he writes over

1184
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: and over again and all of his shows. And this

1185
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: was from him during a panel that we were on

1186
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: and at a film festival, Our Television Best. He said,

1187
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: My he's like, my recurring theme is the love triangle

1188
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: between two male friends and a woman, Like the idea

1189
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: of like how do you navigate having a girlfriend and

1190
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: having a best friend best male friend? And it's true,

1191
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: like that is, yeah, the primary concern of boy Me's world.

1192
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: Like if you think overall, it's like there's you know,

1193
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: how do you love to Panga but also be best

1194
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 1: friends with Sean? And so it's already here, right, even

1195
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: without it being to Panga. It's like and you know,

1196
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: there are episodes where it lands where it's more about

1197
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: the relationship with the girl, and then their episodes like

1198
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: this one where it's really just about how two guys

1199
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: can be friends, you know, and like how do we

1200
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: navigate being friends and dating well by treating women horribly

1201
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: and still respecting each other in the end. But look,

1202
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: I just what I don't understand is how does this

1203
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: in particular seem as though to Corey he's now gained

1204
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: the respect of Sean, so he up until this point

1205
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: has felt like he's never had the respect of Sean,

1206
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: and then the actual way he feels respected is because oh,

1207
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: I can no longer trust you around females. I like,

1208
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: because you might kiss them, you'll make the moves us.

1209
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: I think you just answered your own question Danielle's Yeah,

1210
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: that's how okay. I just I feel like we have

1211
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: seen so much more respect shared between these two truly

1212
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: incredible friends. Yeah. I yearned for the your Corey. I'm Sean. Yeah,

1213
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: we are always going to be you know. That ending

1214
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: of that episode kind of beat as opposed to you. Also,

1215
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: this was one of the first episodes where the teachers

1216
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: essentially taught nothing. Yeah, there was no lesson from the

1217
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: teachers either. There was no I mean, he could correlate.

1218
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: Kennedy was deciding what to do in the Cuban missile crisis.

1219
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: So that's like dating your best friend's girlfriend. I mean,

1220
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: I get what he's talking about where it's his first crisis, right,

1221
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: but FENI didn't impart any wisdom. Turn it in't impart

1222
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: any wisdom. There was no you know, they kind of

1223
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: learned for themselves that Sean can't be around a woman. Yeah, schitzoid. Yes,

1224
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: that was Yeah, that was dismissive description of am. I

1225
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: would have actually preferred the idea of like, well, we

1226
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: may not have any girls here, but at least you

1227
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: know how to order, like, let's sake, make a joke

1228
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: out of it. Let's order a turkey chubby, let's share,

1229
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, like something like, well, yeah, you know, we

1230
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: may have lost out on one good thing, but it's

1231
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: still you and me. And if this is as bad

1232
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: as it gets, you know, if if no, if I

1233
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: never have a partner in my life, but I always

1234
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: have you. Just something I guess a little more positive

1235
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: reading on it, in that Sean has been awful to

1236
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: Corey in the beginning of the episode, yeah, not realizing

1237
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: how awful he was being, just being dismissive of his friend.

1238
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: And then now he's not going to be a dismissive

1239
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: of his friends. He's not going to be like, you know,

1240
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: like if we just take it from that point of

1241
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: view of like, oh, I totally took advantage of you

1242
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: being a nice guy, like you being my friend, and

1243
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, now I realized that I probably shouldn't have

1244
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: done that. It doesn't really come out that way, right, right,

1245
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that perspective. And for Corey, he not

1246
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: feeling safe is a win for him, so he also

1247
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: from his own perspective, is like, yeah, danger boy again. Yeah,

1248
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm a little danger boy. Yeah okay. I I like

1249
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,439
Speaker 1: your idea of finishing it with a joke, though, could

1250
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: have been something like all right, come on, I'll get

1251
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: you turkey Chubby, and Sean goes, wow, that really is

1252
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: your only move, like something like that, and then you

1253
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: walk away, you know, like that's it's just better. Yeah,

1254
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: but it is time machine. Yeah okay. And then we're

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Speaker 1: in the tag. We're at a car dealership. Alan and

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Speaker 1: Amy are at the dealership trying to return the van

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Speaker 1: because of a miscommunication. The car dealer suddenly becomes a

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Speaker 1: therapist working through their marriage. Tell me about the inner Amy,

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Speaker 1: and the dealer then suggests that they see him weekly.

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Speaker 1: And I think this guy might have done more than

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Speaker 1: one Boy Meats World episode because I really funny and

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Speaker 1: I think I worked with him. I want to say

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Speaker 1: he did another episode of the show. I could be wrong,

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Speaker 1: but I swear he came back. I think he did perfect.

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Speaker 1: He's so good. It was great. Yeah, I mean one

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Speaker 1: thing I'll definitely say is it wouldn't surprise me if

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Speaker 1: he comes back. We Michael Jacobs is really good about

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Speaker 1: reusing actors that he likes working with. I mean we've

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Speaker 1: seen already multiple different actresses and actor I mean Adam Scott,

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Speaker 1: you know, played Senior and then still came back and

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Speaker 1: played Griff. We have a lot of those, so I think,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, that'll be interesting when it comes up. So

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us for this episode of Podmeats World.

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Speaker 1: our next episode, which is season two episode twelve, Turnaround,

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Speaker 1: which originally aired December sixteenth, nineteen ninety four. We love

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Speaker 1: you all, pod dismissed. Pod Meets World is an iHeart

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Speaker 1: podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fischel, Wilfordell and Writer Strong.

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Speaker 1: Executive producers Jensencarp and Amy Sugarman. Executive in charge of production,

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Speaker 1: Danielle Romo, producer and editor Tara Sudbach. Producer Jackie Rodriguez

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