1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Saber Protection of iHeartRadio. I'm any 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Res and I'm Lorn vogel Bomb. And today we have 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: an episode for you about checks Cereal. Yes, not a sponsor, 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: not a sponsor, not today, No, probably not ever, but 5 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: maybe you know what I can't say for sure. 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a fan of Checks. I don't really eat 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: Breakfast Cereal, but I do love a Chex Mix. 8 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't have a lot. I love Breakfast Cereals, 9 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: but I treat them like a dessert. They're sweets. I 10 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: don't normally eat them unless it's a special occasion. 11 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: Sure. 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Chex Mix I usually associate with hiking. 13 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: It. 14 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: Yeah good. Yeah. Was there any Particut reason this was 15 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: on your mind, Lauren? 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 2: Yes, Chex Mix is a very popular holiday season party 17 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: snack and sometimes gift and so I was like yeah, 18 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 2: And then I was like, Oh, we haven't done checks 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: Cereal yet. That's weird. 20 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 1: We are we are here, we are Yes. For past episodes, 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: you can see Kellogg's Yes, Graham Crackers Cereal. I believe 22 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: we did a whole did we over Wow? And I 23 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: typed it into our docs file. It popped. That could 24 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: mean anything, It could that's true. Yeah, Quaker Oats we did, 25 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah sure yeah. Yeah. Also Worcester Shear Sauce Lowry's season 26 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 1: Salt and Restaurant Chain. Yeah that I do love that episode. Well, 27 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: this one's also kind of wild and is going to 28 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: take you places. 29 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, uh huh. 30 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: I guess that brings us to our question. Sure Check Cereal. 31 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: What is it? 32 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: Well, Checks is a brand of factory produced cereal products 33 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: that are eaten as breakfast cereals and a snacks. The 34 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: cereal pieces come in this particular shape each is this 35 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: like small square pillow or or sort of like pillow 36 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: case because they're they're hollow, made up of two sheets 37 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: of perforated or like latticed dough that have been cinched 38 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: and sealed at the edges and then puffed out into 39 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: a three dimensional crisp Yeah. So they've got a lot 40 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: of available surface area on the inside and out for 41 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: like milk to get into if you're eating it like that, 42 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: or for seasonings or maybe melted chocolate to like attach 43 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: onto if you're making it into a snack. Kind of 44 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: kind of helps it stay crispy. Yeah. 45 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: Snacks made from Checks or similar brands or generic brand 46 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: cereals are called Chex Mix and can be made with 47 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 2: any number of savory and or sweet mix ins and flavorings, 48 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: think like roasted nuts, hard pretzels, small chocolate candies, stuff 49 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: like that, with the idea of the final product being 50 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: eaten out of hand and having like a few different crunchy, 51 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 2: soft textures. Yeah, as a breakfast cereal, it's meant to 52 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: be a quick, inexpensive meal. As Chex Mix, it's often 53 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: made in big batches for like a snack or for parties, 54 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: perhaps especially around the winter holidays. The brand does also 55 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: sell prepackaged Chex Mix, especially in like single servings at 56 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: convenience stores. And yeah, check cereal. It's just really satisfyingly crunchy, 57 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: but also delicate enough that it just sort of melts 58 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: in your mouth, which is a very pleasing combination. The 59 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: base cereals are like only sweet and toasty flavored, which 60 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: are great bases for whatever other flavors you want to 61 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: add in there. They're like if throw pillows were crispy 62 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: and delicious, And I really mean that because in a 63 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,119 Speaker 2: certain type of household they are omnipresent to the point 64 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: of being unavoidable. But they absolutely add charm wherever they appear. 65 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: They doo. They're kind of like something that in that 66 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: type of household is always around and you're kind of 67 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: maybe roll your eyes at it, but then you find 68 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: yourself reaching for it later. Oh yeah, Oh I'm glad 69 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: this is here. 70 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: It's delicious. I really like the savory versions. But okay, 71 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: all right, let's dig in here. So the brand's three 72 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: base products are checks made from different grains, rice or 73 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: wheat or corn. They have slightly different flavors based on 74 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: that grain choice, but are otherwise seasoned real minimally, with 75 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: a little bit of sugar and salt, maybe some molasses 76 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: in there. However, they do also offer flavored cereals, and 77 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: at the current moment, the flavored varieties available are chocolate, peanut, butter, cinnamon, honeynut, blueberry, 78 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: and strawberry vanilla. Those flavorings can be either baked in 79 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: well and or dusted on. I guess, yeah, and yes. 80 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: That shape comes from making two long sheets of dough, 81 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: each kind of notched and perforated with this special dye, 82 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: and then lying them on top of one another and 83 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 2: cutting that double layer into squares in a way that 84 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: cinches the edges closed. And then doing this hot air 85 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: cooking process that puffs the two layers away from each other, 86 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: creating your little envelope or throw pillow. Yeah, and the 87 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: check's brand is aware that people use these things to 88 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: make snacks, like a lot. Like every flavor's product page 89 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: includes a couple starter ideas for snack themes, you know, 90 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: like mix this one into trail mix, or like this 91 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: would be good on a chocolate mint chex mix, or 92 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: like what about some blueberry lemon muddy buddies muddy buddies 93 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: being the brand's term for a snack mix where the 94 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: cereal has been coated in some kind of chocolate coating. 95 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: This is also sometimes called puppy chow or other regional names. 96 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: The coating is typically a combination of chocolate of whatever variety, 97 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: plus some butter or margarine, often peanut butter, and then 98 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: seasonings like maybe vanilla and or cinnamon. But you know, 99 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: you can play around. You often coat the cereal pieces 100 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: with the melted muddy stuff in a bowl and then 101 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: shake them in a bag with like powdered sugar or 102 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: cocoa or something like that to create a sort of 103 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: less sticky outer layer. The thus candied cereal pieces will 104 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: cool to little individual solid squares that can be served 105 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: alone or with other mix ins like nuts, chocolate chips, 106 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: other small candy pieces. I don't like mm's marshmallows, candied nuts, 107 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: sure candied mini pretzels, bite sized cookies, or pieces of cookies, 108 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: maybe some like dried or freeze dried fruit. There are 109 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: other sweet Chex mix varieties that aren't as creamy, using 110 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: like a melt of butter and sugar together with seasonings 111 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 2: like baking spices to coat the pieces instead of doing 112 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: like a chocolate thing. But yeah, savory Chex mixes use 113 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: a similar technique, like seasoning melted butter or margarine with 114 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: things like Worcester shear sauce, seasoned salt, onion, and garlic 115 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: powder and then tossing that together to coat Worcester shear 116 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: sauce being a complex, tangy sort of liquid seasoning and 117 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: seasoned salt in this case meaning basically like classic Lowries, 118 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: which is a blend made up of salt, sugar, paprika, 119 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: celery seed, turmeric, onion, and garlic, and then smaller amounts 120 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: of a few other herbs and spices like basil and 121 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: what I just listed that lowries worst to shear. Onion 122 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: and garlic are the traditional seasonings, but you can perhaps 123 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: see from like the sheer number of ingredients in like 124 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: season sold alone that really any type of herb or 125 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: spice can go in here if you want. This is 126 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: one space where dried and powdered is absolutely preferable to 127 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: fresh herbs. Yeah. For again, the traditional Chex mix. The 128 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: recipe is equal parts of corn rice and wheat checks 129 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: then mixed nuts, mini pretzels, and bite sized bagel chips. 130 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: That's what it is. Really, that is the traditional okay, 131 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: But of course you can add whatever you like, you know, 132 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: kind of like light and crunchy and bite sized is 133 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 2: the theme here. So was sabbi peas, peanut butter, pretzel bites, 134 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: maybe some popcorn mini crackers. Sometimes people do go for 135 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 2: sweet and salty, adding some of like. 136 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: All of the above. 137 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: And people do have opinions about what is and is 138 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: not appropriate in a Chex mix, and may in fact 139 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: have opinions about whose recipe within their social group is 140 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: like the correct one. 141 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: I just gotta let you know, listeners, there's a lot 142 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: of capitalization happening in this outline. The right one, the traditional. 143 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: Think I think you can hear it. 144 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: I think yes, I think so. But to emphasize it 145 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: is there. 146 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: And if if anyone out there disagrees about what the 147 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: traditional Chex Mix is, I would love. 148 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: To hear about it. Absolutely. 149 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: If you're like you didn't mention ryde chips, you absolute weirdo. 150 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: Monster? 151 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah monster, Yeah that's a better word. Yeah, anyway, 152 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: let us know, yes, yes, uh and yeah. In addition 153 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: to being served at parties, bags or tins of homemade 154 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: Chex Mix are sometimes given as Christmas gifts around the US. 155 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: You know, like homemade cookies. It's easy to batch and 156 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: it's nice and that it's homemade and you don't have 157 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: to think about. 158 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: It that hard. Yeah, yeah, that is nice. 159 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: It is nice. But the brand does sell pre made 160 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 2: Chex Mix. Their current lineup includes twelve savory flavors traditional 161 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 2: cheddar bold didn't look at what that contains, I'm sorry, 162 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: Honey barbecue, sour cream and onion white cheddar, Jalapeno cheddar, 163 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: Hot and Spicy spicy dill, Cheesy Pizza Remix, Buffalo Sanwich Remix, 164 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: and Zesty Taco Remix. Yes, there's also three sweeter flavors. Turtle, Honey, 165 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 2: Nut and Strawberry Cream, and a few Muddy Buddy mixes 166 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 2: Peebe and Chocolate Brownie Supreme, and then co brandings with 167 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: Cinnamon Toast, Crunch Girl, Scouts, Thin Mist, Funfetti, and Oreo. 168 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: Okay, that's there's been a lot going on with the 169 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: flavors over the years. 170 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: I have to say, oh goodness. As with any snack 171 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 2: brand situation, it's just yeah, yep. 172 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: We'll get into that a little bit more in the history. 173 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: But what about the nutrition. 174 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: Ah, the Bay cereals are partially made with whole grains, 175 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: which is nice. Generally have good punches of dietary fiber 176 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: and a bit of protein, lots of micronutrients. They will 177 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: help fill you up, but to keep you going, definitely 178 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: pare them with some more protein and some fat. Eat 179 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 2: a fruit and vegetable, you know, once you coat them 180 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: with sugar and butter. That's at treats are nice. 181 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: Indeed they are. We have some numbers for you. 182 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Surveys say that Checks is the second most popular 183 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: cereal in the United States, after only Cheers. It's not 184 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: by sales, that's by like popularity. 185 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: I have trouble believing that, but all right, okay. 186 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: I I'm not sure if it's because of the snack 187 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: tie in anyway. According to surveys by you Gov, Checks 188 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 2: is currently the seventy second most popular brand of food 189 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,479 Speaker 2: in the US, with sixty three percent of their respondents 190 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: reporting that they like it. 191 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: All right, Uh, well interesting, That's what I'll say. I'm 192 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: just surprised. I have no real issue with Checks, but 193 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: it's definitely wouldn't even. 194 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 2: Cross your mind to yeah. 195 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: No, But the history I have to say is fascinating. 196 00:12:59,160 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: It is. 197 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: It is, yes, and we are going to get into 198 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: that as soon as we get back from a quick 199 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: break forward from our sponsors. 200 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: And we're back. Thank you sponsoring, Yes, thank you. Okay. So, 201 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: the invention of cereal as we generally know it is 202 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: typically attributed to doctor James Caleb Jackson during his time 203 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: working at a New York sanatorium in eighteen sixty three. 204 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: He firmly believed that digestive issues were the root caused 205 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: to most health problems and sought to improve digestive health 206 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: through food and so to that end, he invented a 207 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: mixture of gram flour and water that he called granula 208 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: gr n ula. Eating it proved difficult. It had to 209 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: be broken up into pieces, and even so these pieces 210 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: were still too hard to eat, like physically texturally too 211 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: hard to eat on their own. Yeah, it was. It 212 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: wasn't a fun time. So Jackson got the idea to 213 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: soften the pieces with milk. John Harvey Kellogg, yes that one, 214 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: took this and ran with it, along with some religious overtones. 215 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: See our episode on that on Kellogg for more. After 216 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: Jackson sued him, Kellogg changed the name of his product 217 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: to granola and eventually invented corn flakes along with his 218 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: brother Will. I've read in some places that Will really 219 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: was the one that invented it, especially because they had sugar, 220 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: and we all know that John Harvey kell did not 221 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: like sugar. That was not his thing. But in the 222 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: following few decades, numerous other cereals were invented, including brands 223 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: like grape nuts and wheaties. Checks, originally called shredded Ralston, 224 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: was introduced by the Ralston Purina Company in nineteen thirty seven, 225 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: but stepping back a bit in the early days, it 226 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: was pretty much bite sized shredded wheat. It was intended 227 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: as a product for the followers of ral Stonism, which 228 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: was largely associated with the leader of the cult slash 229 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: health movement, Webster Edgarley. We're a food podcast. Uh huh, 230 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: I was telling Lauren, this was very difficult for me but. 231 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: To put down because it's such a weird rabbit hole. 232 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: It is a rabbit hole I did not know existed, 233 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: and it almost took it, almost swallowed me home. But 234 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: very basically, Edgarley wrote over eighty books and gave pseudo 235 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: scientific advice around all kinds of hell topics. Some of 236 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: the topics were wild, like lessons in artistic deep breathing, 237 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: and some extremely extremely dubious advice he would hand out. 238 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: It was just ooh. And he thought that Ralstonism was 239 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: a pathway not only to optimal health, but to things 240 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: like telepathy and mind control, possibly even immortality if you 241 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: could fork out the cash for his very expensive books, 242 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: like hundreds and hundreds of dollars in today's money. Wow, Yeah, 243 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: that's how much he was charging. He was also racist 244 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: and believe in eugenics, so there's cool. Yep. He founded 245 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: a wellness club called Ralston Health Club in eighteen seventy six, 246 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: a club that at the time had no physical location. 247 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: At first, the name was a nod to his mother's name, 248 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: but he later changed it to mean regime activity, light, strength, temperation, 249 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: oxygen and nature wow YEP. In an effort to build 250 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: up his base, he purchased land in New Jersey. At 251 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: his peak, he had about a million people following him. 252 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: He had some pretty well known friends, including the founder 253 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: of the Purina Company, William dan Forth. Dan Forth took 254 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: edgar Lee's advice and started offering and advertising a type 255 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: of shelf stable wheat germ cereal as a healthy breakfast 256 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: with edgar Le's paid endorsement as part of the ad campaign. 257 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: It debuted in eighteen ninety eight, and it did well 258 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: enough that the pair came together to form the Raston 259 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: Purina Company four years later in nineteen oh two. According 260 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: to some sources, when they first released Shread, Ralston Grocers 261 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: often mistakenly put it in the pet food section Oh no, 262 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 1: Yeah Yes. During the tough times of the Great Depresses, 263 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: check cereal was affordable and was viewed as something that 264 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: was healthy and fortifying for kids. Outside of a breakfast item, 265 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: it could also function as snack items, so multifunctional. 266 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: Great Yes checks as we know it came out in 267 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: the late nineteen thirties. By nineteen forty one, the company 268 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 2: had received patents for the cereal design and equipment to 269 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 2: make it that we more or less know today. And 270 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 2: this is getting a little bit away from the shredded 271 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: wheat concept, with similar threads of dough, but kind of 272 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: like a lattice or webbing among the threads, and a 273 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 2: cooking process that puffs the dough out instead of battening 274 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: it down. 275 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't until the nineteen fifties that the rice 276 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: recipe for the newly named Checks came out, And as 277 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: legend goes, the first recipe for Check's party Mix first 278 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: appeared on boxes of Check Cereal in nineteen fifty two. 279 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: The popular story goes that it didn't really take off 280 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: at first, and it wasn't until a wife of one 281 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: of the company's executives served it at a party that 282 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: it got some renow that took off. From what I understand, 283 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: it was a very what you have on hand recipe 284 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: that was what they were trying to do. The first 285 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: iteration supposedly had pretzels, peanuts, and Worcester sauce. Soon after 286 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: this corn Checks was introduced, a flaked rice version had 287 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: previously been introduced in the nineteen forties. Prepackaged checks mix 288 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: went on sale in nineteen eighty seven, and during the 289 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties and nineties, the Charlie Brown Peanuts characters were 290 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: involved in the advertising of this stuff. 291 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm not sure whether the partnership dropped off 292 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 2: for a while, but it's definitely back this year twenty 293 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: twenty five, for the seventy fifth anniversary of Peanuts, and 294 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: I think it's been odd and off. 295 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: Huh. They've had a lot of interesting ad campaigns, some 296 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: of which we'll get into just a second. Uh huh, 297 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: just a second. Actually, in nineteen ninety six, General Mills 298 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: purchased Ralston Purina, and that same year, certain boxes of 299 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: Chech's Cereal came with a video game called Check's Quest 300 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: about the Czech's Squadron members of the Intergalactic Federation of Cereals. 301 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: It was a first person shooter that followed Chech's Warrior. 302 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: It won a couple of prestigious advertising awards and had 303 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: a few sequels. 304 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So, so I spent more time reading about 305 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: Doom today than I thought I was going to. But 306 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 2: all right, so I somehow missed this in nineteen ninety six. 307 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: But Yes, Check's Quest was the first time the video 308 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: game had come promotionally packaged with a breakfast cereal. We'd 309 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: only gotten like commercial CD drives a decade or so earlier, 310 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 2: so it was relatively new technology. And Yes, Check's Quest 311 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: was a conversion of Doom of the Ultimate Doom, specifically 312 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: Doom being one of the first first person shooter video 313 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: games where you're moving through a three D environment and 314 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: you know, murdering digital stuff. Doom was super cool because 315 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 2: it was built from the beginning to allow players and 316 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: groups to modify like game physics and graphics and rule sets, 317 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: and thus create whole levels for themselves and at anyone 318 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 2: that they wanted to share them with. And Yeah, this 319 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: marketing agency got the idea to hire some nerds to 320 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: make a checks slash space adventure themed mod. It was 321 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: essentially nonviolent, like it involved a lot of mucus and 322 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 2: I guess teleporting instead of incredibly bloody deaths, which Doom 323 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: was also known for. 324 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: It seemed that it was well liked. Yeah listeners write 325 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: in if you played it, oh my goodness, please do 326 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: please do. Nesley purchased Ralston Purina in two thousand and one, 327 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: changing the name to Nesley Purina, and then in South Korea, 328 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: there was a marketing campaign for a new Checks mixed 329 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: flavor in two thousand and four to be voted on 330 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: by the public. The choices were chocolate or green onion. 331 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: Okay, I have a minor correction here because I need 332 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: to emphasize that this was not a proposed Chex mix flavor. 333 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: It was a Check's breakfast cereal flavor. So they set 334 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: up this internet vote of chocolate or green onion breakfast cereal. 335 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: I feel like green onion would be very bracing morning 336 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: is baty necessary, but like it would be a very 337 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: praising flavor for the morning. 338 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if I would like it for 339 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 2: with milk, but yeah, I mean, but I like a 340 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: savory breakfast. 341 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, green onion won by a landslide, but it 342 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: was the chocolate flavor that was released. According to the company, 343 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: they worked on a green onion flavor for fifteen years 344 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: and released it as a limited addition flavor in twenty twenty. 345 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. So this became this whole like pop culture phenomenon 346 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: because they had these ads with these two competing mascots. 347 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: CHECKI for the chocolate flavor and Chaka for the green 348 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: onion flavor. They never thought green Onion would win, you know, 349 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: but they didn't count on the power of the Internet 350 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,239 Speaker 2: troll But like, yeah, like like for years afterwards, they 351 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: were like what happened to Chaka? Like justice for Choka, 352 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: like these memes of like Choka being a freedom fighter. 353 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 2: The Internet never let it go, Like when they called 354 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 2: for early product tasters, like over a decade later during development, 355 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: they got fourteen thousand, two hundred applications. Oh my goodness, 356 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: I read. I read it was like just fine, you know, 357 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: like like good for a snack, like a little bit mild. 358 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. I read a few reviews as well, and it 359 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: was kind of comical. 360 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Oh. 361 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: Also in twenty twenty, I hope you will be as 362 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: pleased as I was to hear that Check's Quest got 363 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: an HD remake. Yes, it turns out some humans never 364 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: really gave up this particular mod project. There's a multiplayer 365 00:24:53,840 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: mode now. It is available for free on Steam and Switch. O. No, 366 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: I might look that up. I might do it. Yeah. 367 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: Oh, I just I love everything about all of those 368 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 2: It's wonderful. 369 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: Yes, you know, we love some good food. Marketing and 370 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: video games. Very fun. Oh yeah, absolutely right in if 371 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: you've played it, please let us know, let us know 372 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: if you've had this green onion check. Oh yeah. 373 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: Also just if you have a really good checks mixed 374 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: recipe yes or strong opinion. 375 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: Yes, we would love to hear from you. But I 376 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: think that's what we have to say about check Cereal 377 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: for now. 378 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 2: It is. We do already have some listener mail for you, though, 379 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: and we are going to get into that as soon 380 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: as we get back from one more quick break for 381 00:25:54,400 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 2: a word from our sponsors. 382 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: And we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you, and 383 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: we're back with a listener. 384 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: Man. 385 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do like Cereal. It's a treat to 386 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: me though, it really is. Oh. 387 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 2: I definitely don't buy the sugary ones. They're too sugary 388 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 2: for me. 389 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: That's fair, that is yeah, legitimate. That's why I feel 390 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: like they're a dessert. 391 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, even as a dessert, I'm like. 392 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: Too much, too much. Sheldon wrote that old BBC thing 393 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: about spaghetti trees brings back memories from when it first 394 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: came out, or at least soon after I was about 395 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: five years old and fifty seven. It must have been 396 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: on some local news show doing a story of the 397 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: BBC's prank. I remember my Uncle Freddy was visiting us 398 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: at the time when it came on TV. I watched 399 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: it kind of thought it was stupid, but I remember 400 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: Uncle Freddy laughing his head off, smacking his knee and 401 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: just howling. I just didn't see it being all that funny. 402 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: When I was older, I found out that Uncle Freddy 403 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: would often have a bit too much from the bottle, 404 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: which may explain his over the top reaction. Also with spaghetti, 405 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: I make my own from time to time. My granddaughters 406 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: like it, and they like helping me make it. When 407 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: making your own, you can make it longer than the 408 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: traditional length. The girls used to love having spaghetti that's 409 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: longer than they are tall, much to the dismay of 410 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: their parents. I taught them how to start with one 411 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: end of a strand and then slurp the whole thing up. 412 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 1: With a four foot long spaghetti, you can get a 413 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: really good slurp, and sometimes that last bit is going 414 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: in so fast that it will whip around and hit 415 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: your ear before it disappears. Also from a back a 416 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: bit spruce beer, as you mentioned here in Quebec, The 417 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: non alcoholic version is common in supermarkets. A bunch of 418 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: years ago, while visiting a friend in Colorado, I brought 419 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: him some so that he could savor that unique taste. 420 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: I'll never forget what he said to me. You know, 421 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: when you're skiing and you crash into the trees, the 422 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: taste reminds me of that. That's a good review. 423 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: I don't know that makes me want to try it more. 424 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: Let me crash into the trees please. Oh wonderful. Oh 425 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: I love your four foot lung spaghetti. That's really fun. 426 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: When I told that story about making spaghetti with my 427 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: mom in that episode, I think this probably for your granddaughters, 428 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: is a similar, like really fun memory that they have. Yeah. 429 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, Yeah, that's really cute and. 430 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: It is wild that you remember this spaghetti tree segment. 431 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: That's great. That's I'm really happy to hear from someone 432 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: who saw it, because it was one of the research 433 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: notes where I just thought, surely this didn't happen, and 434 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: I kept finding all this proof that it had. 435 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah you're like, oh okay, yeah cool. 436 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: So I'm very glad to hear from someone who saw it. 437 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: Yes, or at least news of it. Just just yes, 438 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: affirming reality love it. Garrett wrote, first of all, I 439 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: want to thank you so much for reading my email 440 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: about your saison episode. It was really cool to share 441 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: my passion with both of you. Naturally, I get excited 442 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: anytime you drop a beer episode, but I was especially 443 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: pumped to see spruce beer as a topic. One of 444 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: my favorite mostly perennial seasonal offerings is Pennsylvania Tuxedo, brewed 445 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: by Dogfish Headcraft Brewery based in Delaware. The name is 446 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,479 Speaker 2: a reference to a popular red and black checkered flannel 447 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: hunting outfit made by wool Rich that was adopted by 448 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: hunters across Pennsylvania. 449 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: The beer is. 450 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: A bold eight point five percent pale ale in quote 451 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: marks brew of spruce tips and a ton of resinous hops. 452 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: How this is a pale ale and not an imperial 453 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: or double IPA I don't quite understand. As discussed on 454 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: your IPA episode, there's a bit of leeway in categorization 455 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: with these styles, as you both know. All I know 456 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: is that it's delicious, But unfortunately I don't think it 457 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: gets distributed down south. If you're traveling to the mid 458 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: Atlantic or Northeast anytime this season, you might run across 459 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: it at a good craft beer shop. I highly suggest 460 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: trying it. It's so good that I seek it out 461 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: every year. It's like when you put up a Christmas 462 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: tree and get sap all over your hands, but you 463 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: can drink that sweet, piny goodness and catch that warm, 464 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: boozy holiday feeling. In my haste to write and send 465 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: my first email to you, I forgot to include the 466 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: pet tax, so hopefully this makes up for it. My 467 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: cats are named Nathan and Sarah, who are litter mates 468 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: and are thirteen years old. You wouldn't think they're related, 469 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: as Sarah is a long haired, black, maybe chocolate cat 470 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: and Nathan is your typical black and white, short haired 471 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: tuxedo cat. They don't particularly like each other, but will 472 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: occasionally occupy the same four x six foot square area, 473 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: but it never lasts long before one of them hisses 474 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: and swats the other. They're both polydactyl on every paw, 475 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: which is kind of neat. They're both girls, but we 476 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: didn't know Nathan was a female when we named her 477 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: at forty five weeks old. But it's a great name, 478 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: so who cares. One really cool thing about Nathan is 479 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 2: that she loves dark multi beers and no, really, many 480 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: times after I've poured a glass of a nice stout, 481 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: especially bourbon, barrel aged and or conditioned with coffee, come 482 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: over and lick the mouth of the bottle. She has 483 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: done this dozens of times over the years. I attached 484 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: a few pictures and a short video clip as proof. 485 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: Sarah is not the most photogenet cat, appearing as a dark, fluffy, 486 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: fluffy blob, but she's actually felt and lovable nonetheless. So 487 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: there you have it. Beer is awesome. Even cats love 488 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: it sometimes. I hope you both have a wonderful holiday 489 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: season and happy New Year. Till next time. Thanks for 490 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: all you do, and a hearty cheers to you and 491 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: your listeners. 492 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: Thank you to you as well. 493 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, oh yes. And attached are pictures of a 494 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: very lovely tuxedo cat excitedly licking the mouth of a 495 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: beer bottle, super into it. Just yeah, just total bliss. Yes, 496 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: and such good cat thumbs. Oh yeah, I love polydactyl. 497 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: I love this. This is fantastic. We love hearing your 498 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: pet stories. I love hearing about Lauren's pet stories. 499 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I also I my cats don't do this, 500 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: but I have a friend whose cat used to if 501 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: she came across a glass of liquid unattended in the house, 502 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: would knock it over on the off chance that there 503 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: was beer inside, because she had found out that sometimes 504 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: glasses contain beer, and so she should probably find. 505 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: Out because she messed around and found out. 506 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but in the funnest way possible for her. 507 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: It was a little bit of a pain for everybody else. 508 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: And also, oh, I'm so glad that you wrote in 509 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: about the Pennsylvania tuxedo from dogfish Head, because A I 510 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: love dogfish Head and I saw that come up in 511 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: a number of places and was so curious about it. 512 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that come up too, And I'm glad 513 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: thanks for writing about about beer. You write in with 514 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: these thoughts, opinions, knowledge much appreciated, so good. Yes, yes, yes, yes. 515 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: And I still am hoping to try some spruce beer someday. 516 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna have to. I don't get out to 517 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: you know, different different shops around Atlanta have different stocks 518 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: of things, perhaps obviously, and I haven't been over to 519 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 2: one of the like good weird craft beer ones in 520 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: a while. 521 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: So field trip, field trip. Well. Thank you to both 522 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: of these listeners for writing in. If you would like 523 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: to write to us, you can. 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