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Speaker 1: is up? Straight Fire? Fan hits me Jason McIntyre Straight

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Speaker 1: Fire for Thursday, June twenty second, Ladies and gentlemen. I

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Speaker 1: thought I'd be going to bed early on Wednesday night,

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Speaker 1: Holy cow monster NBA trade right before the draft that

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Speaker 1: it is a rare, very rare win win win trade. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I don't see a loser. Let me break it down

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Speaker 1: for you. The Washington Wizards, we knew they were gonna

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Speaker 1: tear it all down to the studs. Just bottom out,

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Speaker 1: be very, very aggressively bad. And by to do that,

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Speaker 1: you give up Bradley Build. You don't get a lot

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Speaker 1: in return that hurt. Now you move on from Chris

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Speaker 1: STAPs Porzingis, And I'll say this, I see the name

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Speaker 1: getting old, and he's always hurt. He is always hurt.

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Speaker 1: But he's coming off of your reaverage twenty three and eight.

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, he's only twenty seven years old. Stunning.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that. So Poorzingis goes to Boston,

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Speaker 1: and Boston then kicks Marcus Smart, Yes, the heart and

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Speaker 1: soul of that Celtics locker room, since he was pretty

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Speaker 1: much drafted in twenty fourteen. He goes to Memphis. I know,

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Speaker 1: many great playoff runs. He goes to the Grizzlies. Marcus

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Speaker 1: arguably the best backup point guard in the league, and

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Speaker 1: he is of huge value. I'll tell you why here.

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Speaker 1: Shortly he goes to Washington. There's a couple draft picks involved. Oddly, Oddly,

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Speaker 1: the Celtics get great draft picks. They get Memphis' first

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Speaker 1: the Warriors, but it protect it has protections top four.

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Speaker 1: But this is a massive trade. And I know, like

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Speaker 1: any all NBA players here, although Marcus Smart's been an

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Speaker 1: All defensive player, Porzingis obviously was an All Star once.

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Speaker 1: With the next many many moons, Ago and Tyas Jones like,

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Speaker 1: this is a good trade for Washington. I know Robzie's

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Speaker 1: gonna poo pooh it because we were talking about things beforehand.

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Speaker 1: All right, so a couple of lights. We'll start with Porzingis.

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Speaker 1: This is a big win for Boston. And you know

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Speaker 1: some in said diary take. Later in the night, Chris

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Speaker 1: Middleton announced that he was opting out of his forty

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Speaker 1: I don't think Milwaukee was caught off guard here. But

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Speaker 1: maybe Milwaukee keeps him. Either way they keep him, they

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Speaker 1: now the team to beat in the E. You've got

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Speaker 1: Porzingis is a great get. Guys. I saw this stat

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Speaker 1: But again they have options. Tatum and Brown clearly not

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Speaker 1: missed a big one. Like again, that's an ideal option.

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Speaker 1: he will be your point guard, he will be your leader,

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Speaker 1: I'll finish it up. Rob Tias Jones is widely regarded

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Speaker 1: You're a winning team. Now he goes to Washington and

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Speaker 1: A point guard somewhere else goes down. Pick up the phone.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have immense value in February. The

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Speaker 1: Wizards fans are desperate. Why aren't we getting picks? We're

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Speaker 1: a future first. I don't know. I mean, I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: there's just a lot of options. Washington fans, that's the

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Speaker 1: silver lining. But Rob, in my opinion, at first blush

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Speaker 1: now maybe more comes out tomorrow. This is a win

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Speaker 1: for Washington. Not not the biggest win, but it's a win.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge win from Memphis. I absolutely love the

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Speaker 1: And then I love it for porzingis Boston number one

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Speaker 2: I will respectfully disagree with everything that you've said now

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Speaker 2: for the last whatever nine minutes that we've done this,

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's a winner and in this deal

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Speaker 2: up with where I'm going. The Boston Celtics, if this

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Speaker 2: get Christas Worzingi's absolutely home run, no doubt about it. Instead,

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Speaker 2: they're giving up Marcus Smart, who by all accounts is

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Speaker 2: he's not the best shooter. He's you know, he's his

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Speaker 2: defense has kind of been overstated going back from where

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Speaker 2: he was two years ago to what he is now.

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Speaker 2: But he was the emotional leader of that team, which

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Speaker 2: they don't have right now. Like Jason Tatum, for all

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Speaker 2: of his gifts, is not the most vocal guy. Jaylen

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Speaker 2: Brown for all of it. That's that's fine. Lebron James

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Speaker 2: was the leader of his team at twenty one the different.

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Speaker 2: I'm just just saying, so you let go of him,

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Speaker 2: we haven't seen him do it. So maybe that's you know,

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Speaker 2: TVD So that's number one. Number two, the Memphis Grizzlies

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Speaker 2: giving up the best backup point guard in the NBA

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Speaker 2: and two first round picks to get another point guard.

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Speaker 2: They already have one in John Moran. And for all

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Speaker 2: the people say, well, Marcus Smart, he can point guard

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Speaker 1: By the way Memphis lost Dylan Brooks, they basically said,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what he is.

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Speaker 2: Well, Lonzo can shoot too, he just has a funny

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Speaker 1: Does a does a Dame Middleton? Zion combo, does that

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine that.

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Speaker 2: All of them on the same team. Yeah, that only

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Speaker 2: that's even possible. Well, I mean that to happen.

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Speaker 1: If well, I guess I guess Milwaukee would say, listen,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna go, let's do as sign and trade

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Speaker 1: so we get something back. Milwaukee would watch something back.

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Speaker 1: The other The only other thing I heard rob real

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Speaker 1: quick is so this mckail bridges idea. Uh. I kind

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Speaker 1: of laughed at oh McKell bridges, what, like, what are

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Speaker 1: you gonna get for? How he's gonna change the fortunes

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Speaker 1: there was chatter that the asking price for Bridges is

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Speaker 1: two first round picks, And I'm like wow. And then

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Speaker 1: They're like, well, what if Portland has the third pick

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Speaker 1: Scoot is sitting there? Does Brooklyn say, well, we don't

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Speaker 1: our team. Mckel Bridges ain't a one. What if we

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Speaker 1: trade for Scoot readjust our timeline, we get whatever the

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Speaker 1: hell we can from Portland in addition to the third pick,

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Speaker 1: and we just build around Scoot Henderson. Do they then

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Speaker 1: ship Bridges out to Portland and then Dame gets his

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Speaker 1: guy Bridges? Now, I don't think Damon Bridges does much

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Speaker 1: for you. You still need another piece. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Simon's are sharp, do are good enough? But I guess

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Speaker 1: if I was looking for three big guys, it would

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Speaker 1: be Damian Lillard, Zion and mchal Bridges.

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Speaker 2: I don't think mccallbridge is gonna get traded in any way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form. I think that Brooklyn thinks that they

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Speaker 2: have something with him. Whether that's true or not, we

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Speaker 2: don't know, because so far the numbers look good, but

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Speaker 2: they weren't winning. You know, that last stretch they really

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Speaker 2: back their way into the postseason. But he's on a

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Speaker 2: really good contract given you know, it's I think it's

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Speaker 2: like twenty five million a year. It's really low relative

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Speaker 2: to what you guys are getting. So I don't think

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Speaker 2: he's won anywhere. The smart move, and we've talked about

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Speaker 2: this before, is for Portland to trade Damian Lillard and

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Speaker 2: just bought him out to Scoot Henderson and go from there.

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Speaker 2: Having said that, if Brandon Miller goes too, which a

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Speaker 2: lot of people are reporting, woahch specifically, and now the

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Speaker 2: oddsmakers in Vegas kind of feel that way as well,

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Speaker 2: this opens up so many doors for them with number

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Speaker 2: three because Scoot Henderson seems to be the guy that

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Speaker 2: other teams are interested in, even more so than Brandon Miller.

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Speaker 2: So I could definitely see see a scenario where later

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Speaker 2: on on Draft Night Thursday night, Victor Wemeniyama goes one,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Miller goes too, and suddenly Twitter's exploding with insert

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Speaker 2: your favorite all star player has been traded to the

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Speaker 2: Portland Trailblazers for the number three overall pick.

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Speaker 1: Would not surprise me, you know, I'm looking for it, Rob.

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Speaker 1: I think it was the year after the Lebron Draft.

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Speaker 1: Is the one Chris Paul came out in. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember what year he came out. It was it two

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Speaker 1: thousand and four because that sounds right, I will always

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Speaker 1: that was. Yeah, it was two thousand and four. That

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Speaker 1: was the draft where never pick need, always go with

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Speaker 1: the best player, and it number two. Atlanta went with

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Speaker 1: Marvin Williams in two thousand and four. They passed on

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Speaker 1: Deron Williams from Illinois, they passed on Chris Paul from Wake.

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Speaker 1: Both of those two guys ended up being massive superstars.

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Speaker 1: Marvin Williams not so much. Rob, I think you got

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Speaker 1: to take the best player available. Would you draft Miller's Scoot?

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Speaker 1: If you were Michael Jordan and Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: I would take Scoot Henderson. I think his floor is

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Speaker 2: much higher. I think just his everything you hear about

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Speaker 2: his mental makeup tells you that he's going to maximize

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Speaker 2: his potential more than probably anybody in this draft, including

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Speaker 2: one Wan Yam. I'm not saying he's gonna be as

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Speaker 2: good as him, but I don't think there's anybody in

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Speaker 2: this draft who's gonna get more of his full potential

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Speaker 2: than Scoot Henderson.

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Speaker 1: Tough to disagree, Rob Boy. I'm excited for the draft,

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Speaker 1: and the trade obviously makes things a little more juicy.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow recapping the draft, any major trades

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Speaker 1: that happened. Can't wait. Talk to you then,