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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody. Thursday edition of Clay and

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Speaker 1: Buck kicks off right now. A lot of stories to

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Speaker 1: get to with you here. Dave Portnoy, also known as

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Speaker 1: School PRESIDENTE, giving a lesson to the Washington Post in well,

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Speaker 1: a lesson I guess for all of us, and how

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post does the ambush partisan journalism that now

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Speaker 1: defines that and some of the other major newspapers out there.

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Speaker 1: We show discussed that, and we've also got some crime

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Speaker 1: stories to discuss with you. A carjacking in Minneapolis broad daylight.

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Speaker 1: The whole city is furious. I mean, people are showing

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Speaker 1: up at town hall meetings and they're saying, what the

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Speaker 1: heck is going on here? We remember BLM two point

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Speaker 1: zero launched in Minneapolis. What's happened in that city since then?

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Speaker 1: That's certainly worth us having a conversation about. But the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing on our minds right now is the absolute mayhem,

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Speaker 1: the mess that is unfolding right now and has been

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Speaker 1: for weeks at the US Mexico border. The latest numbers

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Speaker 1: on this indicate that you've got ten thousand people ten

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Speaker 1: thousand people who have been who have been encountered. Now

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Speaker 1: these are illegal aliens. These are people who enter the

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Speaker 1: United States illegally. In fact, the number of people crossing

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Speaker 1: illegally is so high that they've had to shut down

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Speaker 1: one of the lawful ports of entry to redistribute resources

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Speaker 1: to other places on the border. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: just do clay, when you look at a cursory overview here,

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Speaker 1: it's obvious that this is a complete emergency and a

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Speaker 1: mess when you look at the headline, and Biden has

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Speaker 1: sent eight hundred eight hundred troops to help at Eagle Pass, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Now Eagle Pass, Texas not a big not a big town,

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Speaker 1: not a big city really, and it's completely inundated. This

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Speaker 1: has become the place where they're having the most crossings.

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Speaker 1: It does move around on the border. Ten thousand migrants

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Speaker 1: in the last twenty four hours. This is getting to

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Speaker 1: the all time record high that they saw in May

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Speaker 1: before the end of Title forty two. And we can play,

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Speaker 1: we can get into what's going on in the cities.

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Speaker 1: We talk about New York and the migrant problem. Chicago's

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Speaker 1: now got a major migrant problem too. But I just

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Speaker 1: think every Republican in the country who has a platform

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Speaker 1: should be making to case the American people. The border

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Speaker 1: is the most lawless, wide open, and chaotic it really

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Speaker 1: has ever been. I mean, it's certainly up along the

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Speaker 1: worst moments that we've seen. And it's not just all

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Speaker 1: the illegal cross and all the burden on the taxpayer.

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Speaker 1: It's the human trafficking, it's the fentanyl trafficking, the cartel

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Speaker 1: En Richmond. This is a disaster and it is a

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Speaker 1: product of Joe Biden administration decision making that they're still

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and yesterday I said buck and I would reiterate

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Speaker 2: it again. Republicans should take the third presidential debate to

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Speaker 2: the border. They should go to Eagle Pass, they should

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Speaker 2: construct an outdoor stage, and they should force the media

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Speaker 2: that covers the presidential debates to go with them and

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Speaker 2: cover this situation. This is a no brainer to me.

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Speaker 2: I think it's right now, it's scheduled in Miami. This

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Speaker 2: should happen second part of this. And I know a

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Speaker 2: lot of Greg Abbott's people listen to this show, and

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Speaker 2: we had Greg Abbott, the Governor of Texas, on a

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Speaker 2: lot and I think he's been very good on pointing

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Speaker 2: out and dealing with what is a I think it's

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Speaker 2: fair to say international catastro, which is the failure to

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Speaker 2: protect our southern border. I would say this, greg Abbott

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Speaker 2: starts sending illegals to every swing Midwestern state almost exclusively.

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Speaker 2: I want him going into Pennsylvania. I want him going

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Speaker 2: that are theoretically going to decide the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: presidential election to have to deal with what Joe Biden's

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Speaker 2: illegal immigrant crisis is creating, because right now a lot

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Speaker 2: of people out there in blue states are still somewhat

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Speaker 2: protected from the consequences of Joe Biden's border policy. There's

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Speaker 2: no way, let's just put it this way, Buck, if

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Speaker 1: There's no way this would be going on.

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Speaker 2: There is z from a pure political perspective, because this

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Speaker 2: to everybody listening to us right now in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: They should have to see the consequences of Joe Biden's

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Speaker 2: because a lot of people don't see the consequences and

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Speaker 2: as a result, they just don't realize what's going on

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Speaker 1: Now. I also hope.

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Speaker 2: Arizonans that are listening to us right now, Kerry Lake

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Speaker 2: an incredibly competitive three way probably Senate race, but also

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Speaker 2: I think we're number one in Phoenix. If you are

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Speaker 2: listening to us right now in Arizona. Regardless of who

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Speaker 2: wins the Republican nomination in twenty twenty four, whether you're

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Speaker 2: a Trump person and DESANTUS person and Nikki Haley of

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Speaker 2: Ake Ramasom, whoever you're voting for, more power to you

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Speaker 2: if you show up and vote not down ballot straight Republican, you,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, are a moron who is absolutely endorsing

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm just.

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Speaker 2: I'm done with you split ticket voters. You need to

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Speaker 2: recognize that Joe Biden is destroying the fabric of this

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Speaker 2: country and you need to suck it up, even if

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Speaker 2: it ends up Trump and you don't like Trump because

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Speaker 2: you don't like his mean tweets and whatever, suck it up,

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Speaker 2: show up. It's time to send a message. I'm fired

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Speaker 2: up about this ten thousand buck that we know of,

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Speaker 2: and it's only getting worse. And we just said to

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Speaker 2: gonna be another million Venezuelans who come in now because

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Speaker 2: the insane structure is why wouldn't you?

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Speaker 1: This is the this is whatever one needs to understand.

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Speaker 1: It's not oh, it's ten thousand the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: And this is going to stop anytime soon. There's nothing

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Speaker 1: The word is out globally that you can come into

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Speaker 1: really a cursory check. How to even know who these

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Speaker 1: people are? And Clay, you know, we talk about what's

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Speaker 1: Chicago has got some problems. Now I'm trying to pull

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Speaker 1: up the number. Here you go twenty six A twenty

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Speaker 1: six million dollar contract with a security firm to build

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Speaker 1: migrant camps. That's what they're calling it. Here Chicago may

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Speaker 1: This is almost thirty million dollars to build refuge camps

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Speaker 1: now a refugee camp being set up in Chicago. They're

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Speaker 1: thinking this will cost and all these government estimates play

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Speaker 1: That's absurd. Chicago says it's gonna get three hundred and

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Speaker 1: that's a mid Western city that's a quarter of the

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Speaker 1: other places too, you know. To sending them to Swing States,

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Speaker 1: I like that idea. The issue is that this is

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Speaker 1: where the illegals want to go. I want to go

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Speaker 1: to major cities, right, So you offer them a free

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Speaker 1: know that's what I mean. Give them give them a free.

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Speaker 2: Ride to to to Philadelphia. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: Or to h or to New York City. I want

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Speaker 2: States to have to bear the brunt of Joe Biden's

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Speaker 2: decisions and the fact that every media person.

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Speaker 1: Think about this Think about this.

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Speaker 2: Think about how much time our national media has spent

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Speaker 2: berating politicians for not supporting Ukraine enough. Right for years now,

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Speaker 2: they have been going around saying, how dare you not

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Speaker 2: talking about our border? I think you crystallized it a

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden cares far more.

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Speaker 2: About Ukraine's border sovereignty than he does in the United States,

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Speaker 2: and that is indefensible. And of all the things that

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Speaker 2: on inflation. Which did you see that New York Times

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Speaker 1: Did you see that tweet? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it but

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Speaker 2: But everybody out there listening to me right now, I

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden's economy has been such a disaster that inflation

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Speaker 1: Try to buy a house, everybody that's you know, you

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Speaker 1: You know, I know what this is, like, I just

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Speaker 1: You're getting half the house because of the rates that

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Speaker 1: Oh and buck. There are millions of people listening to

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Speaker 2: So you're cramped in that house and you're ready to move.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you want a new school district because your kids

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Speaker 2: a better local school district. But you look at it

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Speaker 2: and you just run the math and you say, I mean,

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Speaker 2: if we sell, we're going to be going from a

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Speaker 2: two and a half percent mortgage rate to a seven

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Speaker 2: bet there's a lot of you fighting about this too,

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Speaker 2: because inevitably, it feels like, to me, every married couple,

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Speaker 2: one of them just doesn't understand how mortgage rates work.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So the person who does understand the mortgage rates is like, no,

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Speaker 1: so we know the MYGI crisis is affecting cities all

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Speaker 1: So I like her passion. You know that she says

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Speaker 4: We have to let the word out that when you

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Speaker 1: They now can all go get jobs.

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Speaker 4: who think they're going to come for the job. So

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Speaker 4: this is a good approach, and I thank the President

436
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Speaker 4: for having a limit. This is for people who came

437
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Speaker 4: before July thirty first, so it's not an enticement for

438
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Speaker 4: more to come after. I think that was an important consideration.

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Speaker 5: It only applies to Venezuelans, and this is a huge

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Speaker 5: chunk of people. It's almost half a million people. But

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Speaker 5: do you think that this will actually have a measurable

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Speaker 5: effect on the problems that New York specifically is facing.

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Speaker 4: It certainly will, because about forty one percent of the

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Speaker 4: people in our shelters today are from Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, this is so dumb, the notion that

446
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Speaker 1: it only applies. Don't worry about it. It's not an incentive.

447
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Speaker 1: It only applies to the people that got here before

448
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Speaker 1: Lie thirty five. We're in September, So you know what's

449
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: gonna happen is everybody else is gonna say, oh great,

450
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Speaker 1: I'll just be part of the next trunch. I'll be

451
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Speaker 1: part of the next work permit giveaway. No one thinks

452
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Speaker 1: this means you shouldn't come. Everyone who's thinking about coming

453
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Speaker 1: is saying, oh, great, I'll be part of the next

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Speaker 1: five hundred thousand, and the next five hundred thousand after that.

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Speaker 1: You actually rewarded the people who broke the law the fastest.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is what this is what it is.

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Speaker 2: You're saying, Hey, those of you who broke the law

458
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Speaker 2: the earliest, you're in under this new number. By the way,

459
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Speaker 2: people are gonna lie. I mean, do you think people

460
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Speaker 2: are stupid? People are gonna claim when they try to

461
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Speaker 2: go get jobs, what didn't you get here?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

463
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Speaker 2: I got here April twenty eighth. Okay, you're good, you know.

464
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is not this is not going to

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Speaker 2: be a rigorously enforced paper check. I don't think to

466
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Speaker 2: see whether or not you fit the July thirty first eximption.

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Speaker 2: But all of those people are going to come here,

468
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Speaker 2: more of them, and then they're gonna say, well, actually,

469
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Speaker 2: we're gonna also give work permits to everybody who got

470
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Speaker 2: here before Halloween or before the end of the year,

471
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Speaker 2: whatever it is, and the numbers are just gonna continue

472
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Speaker 2: to skyrocket. The only way so the incentive structure here

473
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Speaker 2: is wild. You're clearly encouraged to come here again. Just

474
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Speaker 2: take it outside of however, frustrate. However, you may be

475
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Speaker 2: frustrated about this, as both Buck and myself are as

476
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Speaker 2: clearly over this. But if you're thinking about it from

477
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Speaker 2: the perspective of a Venezuelan, everything that they're doing is

478
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Speaker 2: making you want to come here more likely to come here.

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Speaker 1: And so what do we just hit ten thousand at

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Speaker 1: the border?

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Speaker 2: I think from one hundred and sixty countries, by the way,

482
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Speaker 2: because when you have a wide open southern border, if

483
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Speaker 2: you can get to South America, if you can get

484
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Speaker 2: to anywhere in the Mexico vicinity, you feel like you

485
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Speaker 2: can walk across the border. Most of these people right

486
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Speaker 2: now are coming from Venezuela. What's the population of Venezuela,

487
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Speaker 2: by the way, Buck, do you have any view, give

488
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Speaker 2: or take? Okay, so just think about five hundred thousand

489
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Speaker 2: people is like one in sixty Venezuelans. But it's a

490
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Speaker 2: really substantial portion of Venezuelans that are coming here right now,

491
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Speaker 2: and now it's going to be millions. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: effectively huge parts of Venezuela just up and moving and

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Speaker 2: becoming Americans. In terms of living here, and by the way,

494
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Speaker 2: but this is also important. A lot of people who

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Speaker 2: come across from Mexico. The data reflects that they go

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Speaker 2: back and forth because they may come here and make

497
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Speaker 2: money and then they'll travel back down to Mexico. You know,

498
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Speaker 2: it's very much of a of a trip and sometimes

499
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Speaker 2: you're here and sometimes you're there. People are not going

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Speaker 2: to come from Venezuela and travel back to Venezuela very often.

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Speaker 1: That is a long way.

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Speaker 2: It's super expensive to fly, you may not be able

503
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Speaker 2: to get back in. These people are here to stay

504
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Speaker 2: again Mexico. And the data that people will go back

505
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Speaker 2: and forth across the border seasonally based on when jobs

506
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Speaker 2: are available, all those things. If you come here from Venezuela,

507
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Speaker 2: you ain't ever going back to Venezuela. You are never

508
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Speaker 2: leaving the country. These Venezuelans are here forever. And we

509
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Speaker 2: just said, if you're right on thirty million, we're talking

510
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Speaker 2: about one in every sixty people from Venezuela has come

511
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Speaker 2: here in like the last year. That's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna keep going. And the Biden administration response to

513
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Speaker 1: this is to effectively encourage it. This is the part

514
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Speaker 1: of it that everyone needs to understand, they'll talk about

515
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Speaker 1: the border and they'll say, oh, we need to do something.

516
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Speaker 1: When they surge personnel to the border, it's like they're

517
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Speaker 1: sending more people to hand out water bottles and sandwiches,

518
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Speaker 1: like they're not actually stopping people right from coming into

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Speaker 1: the country. And the other part of this is when

520
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Speaker 1: they're pulling this kind of pulling in terms of the

521
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Speaker 1: human resources, they've got the personnel pulling them to deal

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Speaker 1: with the illegal crossings that are going on. In these

523
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Speaker 1: kinds of numbers, clay the rest of the border in

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Speaker 1: terms of illegal flow of fentanyl. I mean, it's it

525
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Speaker 1: couldn't be any easier for the cartels to get it

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Speaker 1: across than it is right now. Here's a crazy staff

527
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Speaker 1: for you, buck.

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Speaker 2: Almost the whole state of Wyoming's population is the number

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Speaker 2: of Venezuelans that can now be here legally in work.

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Speaker 2: To kind of put that into perspective, there's five hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy six thousand people in Wyoming. So we basically

532
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Speaker 2: have moved the Wyoming of Venezuela to the United States,

533
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Speaker 2: and we're saying, hey, you now have the right to work,

534
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Speaker 2: and I'm telling you millions, millions more Venezuelans are coming

535
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Speaker 2: because their country is broken because of leftist rule, and

536
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Speaker 2: all of the incentive structure is for them to come.

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Speaker 2: And again, as soon as you have a baby, that

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Speaker 2: child is an American citizen and the parents are never

539
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Speaker 2: going to get kicked out if they have an American

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Speaker 2: citizen child. This is this is crazy that we've allowed

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Speaker 2: I do think, so, first of all, we shouldn't have

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Speaker 2: birthright citizenship. And we've talked about this quite a bit

560
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Speaker 2: on the show. I mean to me, I go to

561
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Speaker 2: root cause incentive structure. Why do the people come? They

562
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Speaker 2: come for jobs. It's hard to not provide jobs, by

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Speaker 2: which I mean that America's economy is so strong in

564
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Speaker 2: terms of the number of jobs that are available that

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Speaker 2: that's why these people are coming. Right, And look, the

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Speaker 2: Biden economy is not as strong as it should be.

567
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Speaker 2: But I'm talking about over the last thirty years, forty years,

568
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Speaker 2: why do illegal immigrants come to the United States because

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Speaker 2: of the jobs they can make more money? Right, that

570
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Speaker 2: is hard to eliminate. Birthright citizenship we should eliminate immediately,

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Speaker 2: Like I think it's illegal, unconstitutional potentially even to exist

572
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Speaker 2: the way it is. But the long range plan here

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Speaker 2: for everybody out there saying, Okay, what Democrats believe that

574
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Speaker 2: the people who are coming into this country illegally, they

575
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Speaker 2: think that they will end up voting Democrat.

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Speaker 1: So that if you're out there and you're like, why

577
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Speaker 1: do so many Democrats?

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Speaker 2: The root reason why they want open borders is because

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Speaker 2: they think the people that are coming into this country

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Speaker 2: are more likely to be Democrat voters.

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Speaker 1: Would you agree with that, Buck?

582
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Speaker 2: The root reason for why they want open borders long

583
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Speaker 2: range is because you know, you can say, oh, they're empathetic,

584
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Speaker 2: Oh they care so much about the world. They believe

585
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Speaker 2: politically in the long run this benefits them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think if they if they can get a

587
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Speaker 1: mass amnesty for twenty or thirty million people, that on

588
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Speaker 1: the whole it will result in them changing the electorate

589
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Speaker 1: in a way that you know, it's not all going

590
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Speaker 1: to go for Democrats, but enough if it will that

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Speaker 1: they'll have a permanent majority.

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Speaker 2: The one thing that well, first of all, we can't

593
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Speaker 2: do that, right, you can't give amnesty. All those things

594
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Speaker 2: should never happen. But the one thing here that I

595
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: do think is worth paying attention to that I don't

596
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Speaker 2: hear very many people talking about what if Democrats are

597
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: wrong about that? What if they are wrong that over

598
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Speaker 2: the next generation Hispanic voters are going to vote Democrat.

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Speaker 1: Their data big gamble. It gamble for the Republicans to think.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean that would that would, But but I

601
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Speaker 2: do think the calculus politically, I'm not convinced that the

602
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Speaker 2: long range future of the Hispanic vote lies in the

603
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Speaker 2: Democrat Party. And I'm talking about not in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four or twenty twenty eight. I'm talking about if we

605
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Speaker 2: were having this conversation in twenty forty eight. And the

606
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Speaker 2: reason why is, if you are willing to die to

607
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Speaker 2: come to this country, it is because you believe America

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Speaker 2: is the most remarkable country that has ever existed in

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Speaker 2: the history of the world. Most Democrats wouldn't die to

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Speaker 2: try to get to the United States. I don't think so,

611
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Speaker 2: because their party has bought into the idea buck that

612
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Speaker 2: America is a fundamentally racist, indefensible place. The people who

613
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: come here and risk their lives to get here are

614
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Speaker 2: doing so because they believe in American exceptionalism. Democrats are

615
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Speaker 2: selling them the idea that America is awful. And I

616
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Speaker 2: think that's why you've seen remember what they said when

617
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: Trump wanted sixteen. Democrats are selling them on.

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Speaker 1: The idea that America owes them and that it's our

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Speaker 1: fault actually, that their countries are as dysfunctional as they are,

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Speaker 1: and that American imperiod. Now I'm not saying that works.

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Speaker 1: It clearly doesn't work with Cubans who were Venezuela. I'm

622
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Speaker 1: here in South Florida. Cubans, you know, vote Republican in

623
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Speaker 1: pretty strong numbers. They're they're majority Republican in their votes.

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Speaker 1: So you know, that's uh, I think a part of

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Speaker 1: the conversation and to think of that the Hispanic vote

626
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Speaker 1: is it's so broad in some ways as to be

627
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Speaker 1: not not a particularly insightful way to look at the

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Speaker 1: that portion of the of the electorate. And like I said,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's Cubans, there's I mean, I can't sit

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Speaker 1: here and go through all the different but all the

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Speaker 1: different iterations of what's considered Hispanic or from Latin America.

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Speaker 1: But you know, people who are legal immigrants from Latin

633
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Speaker 1: America tend to be much more, much more likely to

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Speaker 1: possibly vote Republican.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and I think Venezuelan's in particular, because they've

636
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Speaker 2: seen the ravages of socialism because of Maduro, are also

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Speaker 2: probably predisposed to be in favor of it.

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Speaker 1: You got to remember, we're also taking in people from

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty plus countries, and so while there's

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Speaker 1: a big there's a big group of Venezuelans. There are

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Speaker 1: people showing up and coming across the border from Southeast Asia,

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Speaker 1: from West Africa, from Latin America, and from everywhere.

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Speaker 2: And their idea is We're going to give them citizenship,

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Speaker 2: and then they will be thankful to us for giving

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Speaker 2: them citizenship, and they will end up voting for us

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Speaker 2: in years ahead. I mean that that is the long

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Speaker 2: range plan. What I would just say is, in the

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Speaker 2: back of your mind, just think about this. And I'm

649
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Speaker 2: talking about not in the next couple elections. I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about twenty or thirty years down the road. If in

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Speaker 2: the back of your mind you start thinking about this.

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Speaker 2: In twenty sixteen, when Trump won buff by focusing on

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Speaker 2: border security, the general consensus opinion was Republicans are never

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Speaker 2: going to get the Hispanic vote.

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Speaker 1: Now what's happened twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: More Hispanics vote Republican, twenty twenty, More Hispanics vote Republican

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, More Hispanics vote Republican twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: I can give you a preview. More Hispanics are going

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Speaker 2: to vote Republican. The calculus that Democrats are relying on

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Speaker 2: to work in their favor and turn potentially Florida and

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Speaker 2: Texas for instance, into purple states and or blue states.

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Speaker 1: Is not working right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean it works in California, yeah, but a California

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Speaker 2: is a little bit different because it's an interesting I mean,

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Speaker 2: they think they want to make America California is the point, right,

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Speaker 2: and it worked in California.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting though. I just I wonder if the

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Speaker 1: conventional wisdom is right. Claye Travis and Buck Sexton on

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Speaker 1: the front line of truth