WEBVTT - Conversations About OJ (RIP)

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<v Speaker 1>What's Up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Senner's podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 1>loaw glasses.

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<v Speaker 2>Malone. Damn, mom, you remember what I said? You know what?

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<v Speaker 2>What I asked you was? Do you still consider gun

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<v Speaker 2>or a snitch?

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<v Speaker 1>Why would I not consider him a snitch when he

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<v Speaker 1>told on camera?

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<v Speaker 2>Because he's not taking a stand no more. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they're even using none of his testimony. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he's really said anything. I'm not really familiar

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<v Speaker 2>with that these circumstances.

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<v Speaker 3>I damn it still for far bit you do your

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<v Speaker 3>research before coming on to this pro exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get the opportunity to do. You know I

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<v Speaker 2>was because I know you was a real big You

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the first people saying early on man

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<v Speaker 2>he snitching.

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<v Speaker 1>No I said he told when their a video came

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<v Speaker 1>out of him telling.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't think he would tell.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't think he would.

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<v Speaker 1>I give everybody the benefit of the doubt. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think nobody gonna tell till they actually tell.

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<v Speaker 2>You.

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<v Speaker 4>Just like being wrong, Well, I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 1>With being wrong, but I give people the benefit of

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<v Speaker 1>the doubt. I don't just make somebody a fucking snitch.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the point still, Okay, So let's say you

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<v Speaker 1>killed somebody. Let's say I go to the police and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, man, still killed this person, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>they like whatever, they come, they get a videotape of

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<v Speaker 1>you killing somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>Am I still not a snitch?

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<v Speaker 1>Even if they don't have to use my testimony and

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<v Speaker 1>my snitch.

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<v Speaker 4>So why the fuck would you ask me?

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<v Speaker 1>Just because he's not going to allegedly his testimony is

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be used when he told on tape. The

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<v Speaker 1>premise of thugs charges is that YSL is a gang.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what a rico charge is, right, a racketeering and

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<v Speaker 1>rough organization.

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<v Speaker 2>And gonna admit it to that.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, he said a lot. He said, yes they

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<v Speaker 1>are a gang. So he's telling. That's snitching. It don't

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<v Speaker 1>matter if he get up on the stand and be like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're a gang. It doesn't matter if he gets up

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<v Speaker 1>there like New Jack City and be like it was me. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what telling means. Exclusively telling means you given

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<v Speaker 1>information on a crime to make yourself unburdened for your crime,

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<v Speaker 1>to not have to deal with the accountability of your crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Of your charges. He is the prime definition of snitching.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, great shaw, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, man, I don't know. Maybe I'm I

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<v Speaker 2>believe that most niggas do fold. Gee. That's why if

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing criminal ship, I wouldn't fuck with the

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of people.

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<v Speaker 4>You tell me most of these niggas in the industry

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<v Speaker 4>is gay. You're telling me most of these niggas is

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<v Speaker 4>gonna fold.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet you ain't never seen nobody, none of these rap

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<v Speaker 1>nigga sucker dick. Yet you ain't never seen nobody tell.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you come up with all these conclusions.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think the average person is gonna tell she

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying everybody go fold under pressure, dog,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think people will.

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<v Speaker 1>The average person is not considered in the life. The

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<v Speaker 1>average person cannot be a snitch.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>If the average person saw crime, them calling the police

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<v Speaker 1>to report the crime is not snitching, it's only snitching.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about this. I decided to go move, and

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<v Speaker 2>if I decided to go start moving packs to cocaine

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<v Speaker 2>across the country, I wouldn't just fuck with anybody on

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<v Speaker 2>that because the average person want to get money. But

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<v Speaker 2>the average person, when it comes type of situation come

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<v Speaker 2>at hand, they gonna start telling, they gonna start running

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<v Speaker 2>their mouth. Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>If I have to do something with Peter, right, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say somebody jumped on Peter, right, and Peter got in trouble. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>They jumped on Peter, and Peter for some reason didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to put him in prison. And Peter came and said, Glasses, man,

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<v Speaker 1>these motherfuckers jumped on me. I want to shoot them.

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<v Speaker 1>If I go with Peter, I'm assuming he wouldn't tell

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<v Speaker 1>on me, because if he don't want to actually shoot them,

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<v Speaker 1>he could go to the police and do.

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<v Speaker 2>The right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So it would be fucked up for Peter to come

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<v Speaker 1>to me to get me knowing that we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>commit a crime, and now it's time for him to

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<v Speaker 1>be accountable. Decide I'm going to tell on Glasses if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not with the lifestyle, right.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be so funny to bring the thing to

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<v Speaker 3>the other person and have them taggle along with you,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you tell on them. Ship. It's different when

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<v Speaker 3>you're the passenger in the car, that's still pretty shitty.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you're the fucking driver, god damn.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck, Yeah, that's fucked up. But I don't know, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>I just think you know. And what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Do you think I'm wrong?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I don't think most people tell in delights.

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<v Speaker 2>I disagree, man, I disagree, and he makes your organization

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<v Speaker 2>that has ever been taken down has been from someone

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<v Speaker 2>on the inside.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not disagreeing. But that's not You know how many

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<v Speaker 1>organizations across America is where people don't tell.

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<v Speaker 4>One It's a ton of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you're just a real optimistic person. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>you're one of the most optimistic people I know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not optimist.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't know everybody was.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't see most of the time that you did

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<v Speaker 4>say that, And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't see most people in lot of how You've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen anybody being gay?

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I've seen a bunch of people. Well, gee, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not just making I don't just make sh up out

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<v Speaker 2>of my own mind. Look at somebody and you are.

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<v Speaker 2>It means.

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<v Speaker 1>You have never seen no rapper do no gay ship

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<v Speaker 1>in your entire life, because you.

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<v Speaker 4>Would have said, glasses, this dude did this gay ship.

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<v Speaker 2>I have told you these niggas did. Refused you ain't.

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<v Speaker 4>You ain't never in your life told me you've seen

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<v Speaker 4>a rapper do ship gay.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, when we get off this thing, I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 2>you who all did some gay ship? Who I don't

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<v Speaker 2>see do some you saw seen and I've seen what

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<v Speaker 2>was you doing while you was watching? Nigga? Have been

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<v Speaker 2>a party and ship like that? Dogs different situations. I

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<v Speaker 2>ain't never been nowhere personally with them ship like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen them do some gay ship, and I got

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck out.

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<v Speaker 4>So you was at a party where some rapper was

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<v Speaker 4>sucking a dick?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't seen. I saw rappers kiss niggas and do

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<v Speaker 2>all kind of weird shit. I ain't never seen nobody sucking.

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<v Speaker 4>You ain't see nobody kiss nobody.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, see that's what I mean. I have nigga. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just not making sure. I ain't just gonna call him

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<v Speaker 2>a man gay if he ain't.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you will.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you are, because you are full of fucking jokes

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<v Speaker 1>and you think it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. Why is it funny for somebody to be doing

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<v Speaker 2>some gay ship. I didn't tell them to do music here.

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<v Speaker 4>You call them here, you make up funny names like doogler.

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<v Speaker 2>Nigga. No, I got definite homie fortylock.

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<v Speaker 4>That's see you think it's funny. You're smiling now.

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<v Speaker 2>It is some funny ass ship. But I'm not troubling you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen niggas do some.

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<v Speaker 4>You are definitely trolling me. All of these dudes swear

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<v Speaker 4>to God, they all this gay ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Is happening in the industry. But none of y'all been

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<v Speaker 1>where somebody was sucking a dick.

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<v Speaker 4>But everybody sucking.

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<v Speaker 2>With nobody. I've never been, and nobody's into me quarters

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<v Speaker 2>like this. You didn't know what they're.

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<v Speaker 4>Doing, y'all. Stay y'all saying this is happening at.

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<v Speaker 2>All the spots. If a nigga kissed another nigga in

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<v Speaker 2>the mouse, he's gay.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't never seen no rapper kiss nobody else in

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<v Speaker 1>the mouth and you was there. Shit, bullshit anyway, That's

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<v Speaker 1>not what I want to talk to you about.

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<v Speaker 4>No sillers, g L.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter in the house, got my big brother steal from

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<v Speaker 1>og Gangster Rap Chronicles where they cover everything gangster rap related.

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<v Speaker 1>You've heard gangst Chronicles. I just had a thought, right

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<v Speaker 1>because OJ just passed away. M pete, why do I

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<v Speaker 1>still not feel OJ?

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<v Speaker 4>Did it? Now? Listen?

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<v Speaker 1>Could OJ have went over there. Yes, could OJ went

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<v Speaker 1>over there when it was happening? Possibly, could OJ been

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<v Speaker 1>there while it was happening. I'd even believe that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>OJ comes over after it happens.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm riding. I do not believe OJ did it. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it makes me racist because every white person in

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<v Speaker 1>this country feels OJ did it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just don't believe you go.

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<v Speaker 1>From not really being a hard and criminal to a

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<v Speaker 1>double murderer in one night and then never murder anybody again.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the percentage of murders that happened outside of

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<v Speaker 3>criminal syndicate that has to do with domestic spouse shit

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<v Speaker 3>is like ninety plus percent. Like it's high. Like you're

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<v Speaker 3>either killing somebody because of a criminal enterprise associated action

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<v Speaker 3>or it's your wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, I've thought about that, right, Okay, I've thought

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, but even then, right, he stabs, so he's a

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<v Speaker 4>double murderer.

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<v Speaker 3>They still well, the other bill was still standing there.

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<v Speaker 1>But even then, but even then, they why would he

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<v Speaker 1>murder her if he's used to seeing her be with women,

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<v Speaker 1>If he's used to seeing her be with women, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>or he used to seeing the call be with men, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because the lady, the other lady said he used to

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<v Speaker 1>look in the window when she was kneeling. Dudes, what

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<v Speaker 1>drove him this crazy to become a double murderer.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that he tried to go murder them both.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he tried to murder one and the other

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<v Speaker 3>was there, which was which I don't know. He might

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<v Speaker 3>have tried to catch Ron coming out on the sneak

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<v Speaker 3>and she walked out after him, and it was like, uh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, that's not how murdered the other way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not how murder works with a knife.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, man I did. I had a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with this one guy and he said that O J

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<v Speaker 2>was with this Italian guy that had ties to the

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<v Speaker 2>mob when they went over there to visit them that day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I kind of belonging to I share the same

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts as Ugu. I don't think he could have did

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<v Speaker 2>that by himself. If he did it, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>would be extremely difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he leaves one gloves on the scene, another

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<v Speaker 1>glove at his house.

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<v Speaker 4>It just feels hell of goofy.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was Plannet though. I thought that was

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<v Speaker 3>the whole Firman thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's well, you know what, but that's my point, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what lost the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you know it was discovered that Mark, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for Firman had some real he lean real races, right,

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<v Speaker 2>he had a bunch of fucked up shit that he

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<v Speaker 2>was saying about black.

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<v Speaker 1>People, and he was on record for saying he set

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<v Speaker 1>criminals up because he thought they were guilty.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. So I think, man, I don't think he acted alan.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he knew who did it. Man. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I don't ever think we'd ever fully know the truth

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<v Speaker 2>of what really went down that day. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think if he did do it, he didn't do it alone.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't act alone. And I think it has something

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<v Speaker 2>to do with her. I think it has something to

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<v Speaker 2>do with the coal, buying drugs or some shit like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, give me your theory.

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<v Speaker 3>She wasn't no drug dealer, Get no.

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<v Speaker 2>She did a lot of cold though she could have

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<v Speaker 2>owed somebody some money.

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<v Speaker 4>You're the day Lottat Okay, Okay, Peter, if OJ's.

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<v Speaker 3>Plenty of money over there, she didn't money Some of.

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<v Speaker 2>Those people quarter chickens, some of them people buying quarter

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<v Speaker 2>chickens for their.

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<v Speaker 3>Personal use and not pigeonship money. Huh A non pigeonship money.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like five ten grand.

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<v Speaker 2>Peter, motherfucker would kill you over a thousand dollars you talking.

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<v Speaker 2>See that's the real white hole.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, got money money, he's got money. She's getting alimony money.

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<v Speaker 3>She'd have to go through a quarter a day.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my man believes that he believes that OJ had

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<v Speaker 2>had a hand in it, but he didn't act a

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<v Speaker 2>long that's probably fair.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think o J had a hand in it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my problem. Like like, now, could he have paid.

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<v Speaker 3>Possibly couldn't get his hand in it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't even talk about that because it's somebody

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<v Speaker 1>with little hands that did the stab it. What is okay, Peter?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it ridiculous? What is a possibility that could have happened?

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<v Speaker 1>What could have happened?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you mean if.

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<v Speaker 4>OJ did not do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like like I like like the Kardashian guy, Like who

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck did it?

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<v Speaker 4>And why?

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<v Speaker 3>That's like one of those That's the other thing to me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like like the idea that oh Ron or she

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever they were running around some coke mess or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever the fuck, like that to me doesn't wash because,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, she has access to money. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>stupid and she's old, you know what I mean. Like

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<v Speaker 3>it's ridiculous. Unless Ron was some like quietly super covert

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<v Speaker 3>hustler and happened to get tracked down for his moment

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<v Speaker 3>of penance over drug debt at her house, maybe I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean he's starting to go any like further

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<v Speaker 3>into speculations. You're just getting further and further into the abstract.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like I don't think that there was a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of other options there for it. Like if not him,

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<v Speaker 3>then who else would have such a significant you know,

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think his family was broke either, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Like we're not talking large sums of money. Like I'll

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<v Speaker 3>put this way, in that world, if you're in that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of trouble, you're that FAM's coming up with one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>Power. Okay, But why does O J kill her?

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<v Speaker 1>Because she was he didn't catch her and act with

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<v Speaker 1>with Ron, So why would he kill her if this

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<v Speaker 1>is their normal routine.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know all the intricacies of an ugly divorce

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<v Speaker 3>that went on there. When this was going on, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like ten or eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro Nicole wasn't just fucking. She just wasn't messing with

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<v Speaker 2>the dude. Actually, I heard she wasn't even messing with

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that she got murdered with, the Ron Goldman.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that I'm telling you what I heard from

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else. This is not like I wouldn't obviously wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>But from what I understand, Marcus Allen tapped that ass.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she was fucking. She was like a little They talked,

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<v Speaker 4>the host talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, and I believe Peter that it wasn't so much

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<v Speaker 2>the people that didn't that o J didn't know, But

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<v Speaker 2>when she got to messing with he knew, and Marcus

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<v Speaker 2>Allen was like his little brother or whatever like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That kind of fucked his head. It could have been

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<v Speaker 2>a crime of passion. He could have won over there

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<v Speaker 2>one day and just loped up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I think that it probably was. You got

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<v Speaker 3>to understanding that kind of a situation. You have three

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<v Speaker 3>things brewing. You have New Dick brewing, you have money brewing,

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<v Speaker 3>and you have child custody brewing. You know, any of

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<v Speaker 3>those three things could have spiked at a given moment

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<v Speaker 3>or two or three at a time. You've got post divorcee. Shit,

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<v Speaker 3>she's taking my money. She's suing again for more fucking

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<v Speaker 3>money over my dead body's stealing all my money. I

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<v Speaker 3>only get to see my kids twice a fucking month,

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<v Speaker 3>both fucking shit, I pay for all this kind of crap.

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<v Speaker 3>You're fucking this guy. I ain't seen my son three

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<v Speaker 3>fucking weeks. I owe you seventy five thousand dollars a

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<v Speaker 3>fucking month. Fuck this shit. I'm putting an eye and

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<v Speaker 3>you could talk yourself into going fucking nuts. One thing

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say that nobody knows her younger sister was sitting

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<v Speaker 3>right next to my dad in her office when that

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<v Speaker 3>call came in that it was the emergency call, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the next of ken or whatever call. It wasn't oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, something happened to my sister. It was, ah,

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<v Speaker 3>oh j killed my sister.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but even then, it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the family knew that there was that much tension.

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<v Speaker 4>Before.

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<v Speaker 1>But even that, I mean, he is a black man

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<v Speaker 1>and it is white people, Pete. I know that don't

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<v Speaker 1>seem like much, but it matter. He went to just

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<v Speaker 1>be a double murder, Pete and passion over something he's

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<v Speaker 1>seen a thousand times, like this wasn't a divorce that

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<v Speaker 1>happened two days ago. Like he just flipped out and

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<v Speaker 1>murdered two people while one person said right there and

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<v Speaker 1>the other person was right there, and then he.

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<v Speaker 4>Trailed the blood back to it out. It just feels

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<v Speaker 4>a bit disingenuous, man, something about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't Like I get the concept of crime or passion,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get the concept that, well, who else, But

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a reason to convey somebody like this is

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who don't have a violent history now again, because

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<v Speaker 1>it is the passion of love that's possible. But he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get a scratch on him or the scratch he

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<v Speaker 1>got on him with a small bruise.

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<v Speaker 4>On his finger, and he leaked blood well in gloves

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<v Speaker 4>that he went on.

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<v Speaker 2>I found the guy's name is Chris Todd that I

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<v Speaker 2>talked to. Now, Chris Todd has done extensive investigations. He's

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<v Speaker 2>talked to a number of different people and went out

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<v Speaker 2>and did a bunch of research. And he said it

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<v Speaker 2>had something to do with the cocaine's red trade. Like okay,

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<v Speaker 2>like they was involved in some kind of cocaine trade

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on stiff.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Pete, what if OJ is putting his money in

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<v Speaker 1>dope and they killed his family as revenge.

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<v Speaker 3>This man has had his life gone through and a

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<v Speaker 3>with a fucking louse come for how the fuck long?

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<v Speaker 3>There'd have been a charge, there'd have been an investigation

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<v Speaker 3>of consequence to the point where it would have became

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<v Speaker 3>public record.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we really saying that the law enforcement is that

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<v Speaker 1>smart all.

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<v Speaker 4>The time.

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<v Speaker 3>When they dedicate that kind of resource to one singular thing. Yeah, understand,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy was like public enemy fucking number one. We

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<v Speaker 3>got off of that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you and but if you're thinking about it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they arrested him in two days, so it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>they looked for anybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but they arrested him, and then after that you're

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<v Speaker 3>going through all of his shit like all hell, they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be going through all of this shit afterwards.

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<v Speaker 3>There's discovery on both ends because now you're tried and

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to trail, So you have bilateral discovery of

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<v Speaker 3>everything fast of his life. Then he goes to civil court,

0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.240
<v Speaker 3>there's bilateral discovery of every single facet of his life.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes to prison in fucking Vegas for however the

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<v Speaker 3>fuck along with all this other shit, I guarantee you

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<v Speaker 3>if there was a reason for some officer in any

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<v Speaker 3>department of any kind to be able to be like

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<v Speaker 3>he got off, well I'm the one who fucking got

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<v Speaker 3>his ass after he made us all look like jackasses.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe some guy would love to be that hero, they

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<v Speaker 3>would die to be that fucking hero.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's plausible. But in Christi's theory, he went to

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<v Speaker 2>get like he even looked at Ron Goldman's autopsy. Ron

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<v Speaker 2>Goldman's autopsy revealed that he fought to the end. He

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't go out like he didn't go out just

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<v Speaker 2>getting stabbed. He was fighting and whoever, Yeah that's not

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know how they know all this shit, man,

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<v Speaker 2>but they said whoever he was fighting off he kicked

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<v Speaker 2>them multiple times. O j just walked away with a scratch,

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<v Speaker 2>just like really nothing, no injuries. He would have been

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<v Speaker 2>in the fight, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it depends. I mean he would Jesse kicked

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<v Speaker 3>the person multiple times where he kicked a thing multiple times.

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<v Speaker 3>You could be grabbed and stabbing a guy and he's

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<v Speaker 3>kicked and kicks a doorway three four times.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's also not a murderer, so he's not a

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<v Speaker 4>prolific murderer where he knows how to murder somebody without

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<v Speaker 4>fighting to stab him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a stabbing somebody. Bro is some ship. It

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<v Speaker 1>ain't like shooting a gun like stabbing somebody. And to

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<v Speaker 1>better stab somebody without physically being in a fight where

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have any bruises, you don't have nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's really hard to murder two people with a

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<v Speaker 1>knife and you're not a professional and they know you're here,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be different. It's not simple. It's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a daunting task to say the least, especially for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a professional.

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<v Speaker 2>And think about this, usually when somebody do a murder,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it's even if let's say it wouldn't fremdittor

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<v Speaker 2>right O had on custom made Italian leather shoes that day.

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<v Speaker 2>Dog he was dressed like he was going somewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Or came from somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>That's there that night.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know, like I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just a lot of stuff that's really strange with that dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever it was, he wasn't alone. If he did do it,

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't by hisself. Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>But if he did it. But if he did it

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<v Speaker 4>still then I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>But my issue is something about it genuinely feels like

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't do it. Like Now that's not to say

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<v Speaker 1>he don't have any implications on the crime, but I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>did he do it? Like I don't think he's this

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<v Speaker 1>prolific double murderer. Like it's different, Pete, when you find

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<v Speaker 1>somebody in bed and you stab them both in bed,

0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.320
<v Speaker 1>it's different when two people see your ass.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not a like you know what I mean.

0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:49.800
<v Speaker 1>That's not like when you catch somebody in bed, you

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<v Speaker 1>just stab hi motherfuckers in the bed. Y'all, okay, cool,

0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:55.080
<v Speaker 1>You catch the motherfucker sitting on the couch, you just stab.

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<v Speaker 4>Motherfuckers on the couch. That's way, It's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Passion to actually go murder two people with a knife

0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:08.200
<v Speaker 1>in the crime of passion is a daunting task, especially

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:11.359
<v Speaker 1>not to get hurt on like on the on the process,

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<v Speaker 1>like you like, it still won't take some effort, Like

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if he's this prolific murderer, especially

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<v Speaker 1>because they was saying that the other dude wasn't a

0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 1>little dude called me it wasn't a little dude cause

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<v Speaker 1>and like you know, you just grab him and stab him,

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:27.119
<v Speaker 1>and the call right there like don't stab him and

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:27.800
<v Speaker 1>you stab her.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. It's a bit hard. See I'm a big dude,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would imagine if I walked up on you

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<v Speaker 2>and your girl dog and I'm trying to stab y'all,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have to focus on one of y'all at

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<v Speaker 2>a time.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to chase, You had to chase one of us,

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:45.160
<v Speaker 1>niggas something one of us you want to chase.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna tell you this, if it's me and Maria,

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<v Speaker 2>more than like that dude would be so engaged to

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<v Speaker 2>meet Maria, gonna be up the block calling nine one

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<v Speaker 2>one to do whatever she does.

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<v Speaker 4>They gonna find her body two blocks down the street.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be and she might get away. You got

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<v Speaker 2>remember they run their house and it's like it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like they were in this secluded area bro to where

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:09.600
<v Speaker 2>they was out somewhere with nobody around for miles. Somebody

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 2>run outside of screen. When he stabbed me, he stabbed me.

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:13.280
<v Speaker 2>That's gonna garner some attention.

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it just felt weird, like and I'm

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.240
<v Speaker 1>not giving him the break. Like, don't get me wrong,

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:23.200
<v Speaker 1>at that time, I understand the mind state of black

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 1>people in this country, especially.

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:29.359
<v Speaker 4>Following all this history. Obviously, the.

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Rodney King beating is a couple of days from from that,

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:35.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, A couple of years away

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:38.239
<v Speaker 1>from that, you know what I mean, I totally get it,

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that that was the work of

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 1>a murderer. You know what I'm saying, that's that's not

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:48.360
<v Speaker 1>the consistent of like crime of passion, you know, I mean,

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 1>like that actually would take some skill set to murder

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 1>a motherfucker like that and not to have nothing but

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:55.199
<v Speaker 1>a scratch on a finger.

0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:02.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all they had was a little scratch, man, And

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:05.359
<v Speaker 2>I know it just shows you really were America was

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.159
<v Speaker 2>that we're race though, man, because I think that demonstrates

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:10.159
<v Speaker 2>it more than any of the time. Because you know

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:13.720
<v Speaker 2>this this ushered in the era of court TV. Count

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 2>It was the most watched thing on TV at the time.

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Though, has anything ever popped top top that? I don't

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:20.119
<v Speaker 1>think nothing's even top that.

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 2>No ain't nothing ever topped that man. It was just

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, from the chase, it was like a movie

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 2>dog In the beginning, he ride with his homeboy in

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:31.679
<v Speaker 2>the Bronco Man, they cuvered met. Everybody was watching that

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 2>dog all around the world.

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 3>They they interrupted the NBA Finals.

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 4>They did.

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 3>I was pissed and I wasn't allowed to watch it.

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 3>So I was trying to just smoove around the house

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 3>to different rooms that had a TV because I wanted

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 3>to get the finals on and I didn't give it.

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 3>After a few first few minutes watching that that chase,

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I want to see the dream. So

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 3>my parents didn't want didn't know what's going to happen.

0:25:58.200 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 2>They didn't want me.

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 3>To see like live this dude like hop out a

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 3>car with those brains out or whatever the hell some ship,

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 3>So they kept chasing me out of different rooms.

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 4>That's crazy.

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me ask you this, Peter, You coming from

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 2>a white household, did your fingers ultimately think? Oh did it?

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 4>Fuck? Yeah?

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's different though. My mom my dad's known that

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 3>family since he was six years old, Like they went

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 3>to elementary school, middle school and high school together, like

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:28.639
<v Speaker 3>which that goal was my my dad's family. My my

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 3>wow aunt Renee is Nicole's like best friend from high school.

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 3>They were they were prom groups together, they were the

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 3>same prom ship and all that. No, for long year,

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 3>my dad worked with the younger sister. He went to

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 3>school for ten years with the older sister. My aunt

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 3>knew Nicole. They there is it is not quite necessarily

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 3>the same objectively, you know what I mean? And I

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 3>think the reaction that the younger sister had in real

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:57.399
<v Speaker 3>time was almost uh such that it was like a

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 3>like the actualization of somebody that had been potentially anticipated

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:06.880
<v Speaker 3>for quite some time.

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, it's a number of things that could have happened. Man,

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 2>It's like I can honestly say, I don't know. I

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 2>think you know, this Christad guy, he has a thing

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:23.360
<v Speaker 2>because the thing is bro oj could have been involved

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 2>in some shady shit, right.

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 3>Maybe like at that point in his life. To me,

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 3>at that point in his life, that seems the most

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:35.520
<v Speaker 3>ridiculous that the guy who's got money getting paid, got

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 3>fame on TV doing movies' his NBC sports, he's naked gun,

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 3>he's the NFL Hall of Famer. He could do whatever

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 3>the fuck he wants to and he's peddling fucking drugs

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 3>around town. That to me seems more far fetched than

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:47.680
<v Speaker 3>anything else.

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you just don't know, though, Dog, It's like it wasn't.

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 3>Like he was twenty five years old running a monkey?

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Was theren there forty five fifty years old?

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, if I recall, one of the things that was

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 2>funny is that they said Ron Gold guy had a

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 2>bunch of different people's credit cards in his own wallet.

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 3>Maybe might have.

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 2>So he was actually out there scheming on people's cards

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:13.360
<v Speaker 2>and shit, man, you don't know what could happen. Man,

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 2>it could have been just some they just they did.

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:18.679
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I don't know about that.

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 2>They just ain't here. They dead. Dog, something happened, and.

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 3>You know what, you got enough credit.

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:28.679
<v Speaker 2>I think there are very few real serial killers in

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 2>this world. Dog, and people that just go out and

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 2>malicially hunt people down.

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 4>Bro.

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Usually when you see people die fucked up ways like

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 2>you hear a family is getting slaughter, than shit like that,

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 2>somebody in that house did something wrong with somebody. Dog. Now,

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people make catch the you know, a

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 2>lot of innocent people make catch the brun of that

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 2>attack dog. But usually when it's personal like that when

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 2>you start seeing people's kids getting whacked out, parents getting

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 2>whacked out. Dog, it's some personal shit. And you did

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 2>something that somebody. Dog, You took an extremely large sum

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 2>of money from somebody, and you disrespected somebody to the max.

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think nobody exactly innocent in them type

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 2>of things. Man, Something happens.

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess, I guess it just comes down

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>to was it a crime of passion?

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 4>Are we saying O?

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 1>J got so upset that OJ got so upset that

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>she was with another guy and maybe they got into

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 1>an argument, the big blowout argument?

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 4>Why the guy was there?

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>But then he didn't jump, he didn't do nothing like

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>OJ was able to go get a And where is

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the murder weapon? Where's the murder?

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 4>You found the gloves they kept, the blood, you found

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 4>all this? Where's the murder? You didn't identify any knives

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 4>as the murder weapon?

0:29:58.000 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Hm? I don't know.

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'll will kill somebody. That would be like

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 3>the first thing that I would be like, is where

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna dump this weapon?

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:06.959
<v Speaker 3>But that's like I think, But I'm a mentory.

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 4>But then I'm gonna keep the gloves.

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Secondary. The first thing that cross my mind is gotta

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 3>hear of his weapon. If I did nothing else, that'd

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 3>be the only thing I would do.

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>The gloves and the murder weapon would probably go together. Yeah,

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 1>where is the fucking murder weapon?

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 3>There was some kind of rumor about that somewhere to

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 3>somebody found a discarded deal somewhere in the path between

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 3>the house and the his house, in their house or

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 3>something like that, but it wasn't able to be validated

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 3>or something over hearing about that, I don't know. I mean, like,

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 3>you gotta drive a few miles, I'll just stop and

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 3>throw the shit into a sewer.

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you.

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Followed, but you've got But you follow blood to his house?

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Did you didn't find a murder weapon?

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 3>You ain't even follow blood to his house. That's ridiculous.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 4>That's what they said. That's what they said. I swear

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 4>it out. They followed.

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 3>They followed.

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 4>I swear to God, the blood have.

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 3>To be hamorrhagy. He'd be dead. You'd have to be hemorrhage.

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 3>They followed. They followed blood to the car, and then

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 3>from the car to the house, but not from the

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 3>place to the house. It wasn't bleeding car.

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Just no, listen it really they said it was a

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>trail of blood from Nicole's house to Old Jay's house.

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm not tripping.

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 3>No, that's either your tripping or whoever wrote that fucked

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 3>it up that think that that is impossible. Still, you

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 3>couldn't cut your arm off? Still out the window?

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Still didn't they say this? Still do you remember them?

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>You remember I just watched it. I just watched it.

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Let me stick it out the window.

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 4>No, that's what I'm meaning it was.

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what now you Now you're getting my point where

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like, it's this obvious.

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 4>It's a blood trail from that house to this house.

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 4>Is blood on a bronco a spec of blood.

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Blood's the one thing they know was manipulated. It was

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 3>the manipulated thing.

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, they could never they could never, they could never verify.

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>But what happened was they called Mark Ferman in other situations, right,

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and then he had played the fifth when they asked him,

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 1>did he fuck with the crime scene?

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 4>But no. Part of the evidence was they followed blood

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 4>from her house to his house.

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 3>To me because of the nature of the compromised evidence

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 3>being blood, that's the one thing I wouldn't take seriously.

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 3>And just the simple fact you can't bleed like that,

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 3>that's ridiculous. So I don't even think that the two

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 3>things are even hardly decently related. We know that blood

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 3>was compromised by the investigative team, we don't and we

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 3>know you can't bleed out of a car like that.

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 3>That's ridiculous.

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they said it was a car

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>as much as which is weird, because he would add

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>to been in what in the car?

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it from Brentwood all the way over there, that's

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 3>what they said, not me, And then I did see

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 3>that new car. I don't know what.

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>You gotta watch this ship, dog, you gotta watch the

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>people versus O. J.

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Simpson.

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>It's really a really good job of telling the story

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 1>of everybody around the trial. But they talked about it, Pete,

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>that the blood went from her house to his house,

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and it was on the bronco, inside the bronco, the

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>glove was behind the house.

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 4>Blah blah blah.

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, I'm gonna tell you, it's a lot to

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 2>this ship. Though. It's a whole lot of layers to

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 2>that case.

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 4>Man, Pete, think I'm playing this ship. This is what

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 4>they said.

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what though, man, and you don't.

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Know how close do they live. That's a lot of blood.

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you gotta think about this too when you got

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 2>to do like Mark firm and involved, though you don't

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>know what could have really happened.

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 3>He might have killed like I've bled a lot, Like

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 3>I had to get sitches where there was blood bleeding

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 3>through all kinds of shit and stuff from stupid ass accidency.

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't walk it all the way there. Maybe once,

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 3>maybe one time, I cut my ankle open and blood

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 3>all over the place. If I walked to the hospital,

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 3>he'd be like, ahead, it drops, But that was a

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:30.840
<v Speaker 3>huge cut. I just want to see what the address

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 3>is it? This stupid lady's house, m.

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Telling you it's shit crazy. So I just was thinking,

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't have a murder weapon. So OJ is this

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>prolific killer that murders two people because he's mad that

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 1>his ex wife, who's a whore. And forgive me for

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 1>using the word whore, because I don't mean it in

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>a derogatory term. A very permission you was a woman

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 1>was doing something that she always did, yet this time

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:10.280
<v Speaker 1>specifically drove him to commit a double homicide, right, Okay,

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:14.399
<v Speaker 1>not impossible, possible, right, that could dry that. But then

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>he didn't get hurt with two separate people not in

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 1>the same location, right as far as in the house,

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Like they weren't both in the bed, they weren't both

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 1>on the couch. They want both sleep, so you could

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 1>get to one. The other one was right there and

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you know so far of its song. And you did this,

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 1>and you went back home. You were able to successfully

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>get rid of the murder weapon, yet you leaked blood

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 1>all away from no injury outside of a cut on

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 1>your hand. Yet that cut is not in the gloves.

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 1>But then you took the murder weapon, and you skillfully

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 1>disregarded the murder weapon. But you took the glove and

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 1>dropped it in the back of your house, and you

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>left the other glove at the crime scene.

0:35:55.280 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 4>This shit feel funny, funny.

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't personally think that the crime happened with the

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 3>two of them in the same place at the same time.

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 3>I think that one person was in the place, and

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 3>then the other person, after the first one was done,

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.799
<v Speaker 3>came out and stumbled upon the scene, and then they

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 3>got there.

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>So now OJ is a surprise murderer that killed one

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>and then waited for the other one out patiently.

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't think waited. I think it was like just

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 3>wrapped up. You here's someone What the fuck's going on out here?

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Like if it's say he's walking up to the house

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 3>and Goldman's there and they get into a semi prolonged

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 3>struggle and it's done in thirty seconds, whatever the hell

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 3>it is, that's probably about as long as it takes

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 3>for her to hear a noise and what the fuck

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 3>is that and walk outside and he just laid Golda down.

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Ah shit.

0:36:58.120 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 4>But she just stood right there.

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 3>She probably walked out, walked into it. I don't think

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 3>it happened. I don't know the time and space of

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 3>where it was. But I mean it's just a town home,

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 3>so you're basically dealing with it.

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But also you walk out right there, but it's.

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>A front glass window where you could see, like, so

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:20.720
<v Speaker 1>he would have had to so would have happened.

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.280
<v Speaker 4>What would have had either one of two things.

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 1>One he killed Goldman right, if Goldman is the first

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:30.320
<v Speaker 1>who died, killed Goldman outside right, which he would have

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>to get a knife from somewhere, or he'd had to

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:36.959
<v Speaker 1>go over there to kill them, right, So he gets

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:38.280
<v Speaker 1>a knife, he stabs Goldman.

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 4>She either saw it coming.

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Out or she stumbled upon him doing it, and then

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 1>when he turned to her, she did not do anything.

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 4>She just stayed right there and just and got killed.

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 3>I just I don't. I'm looking at this situation like

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna see this unless you're right there, like

0:37:57.920 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 3>this blood area, you know that quarter or the walkway

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 3>where the metal of the gate doors, it's it's it's

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 3>there's a there's a brick wall and then there's this

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:14.440
<v Speaker 3>gate and then there's like a tremendous amount of foliage. Uh,

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 3>you'd have to walk dead into the situation, no pun intended.

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:24.359
<v Speaker 4>Apparently as well, we need to get that dude on

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 4>the podcast. Still, could we get him back?

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I need to get some more theories about

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>what happened.

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm like, I'm worried. This just doesn't This would

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 4>have to be the greatest coincidence. Where is the murder weapon?

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Did he go over there with the knife and then

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>he got rid of the knife, but he kept the

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 1>gloves and then he left one glove here and the

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 1>other glove there. Just and and if the police did

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 1>do you know the job of fucking it up, then

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.839
<v Speaker 1>they fucked it up because it it took a lot

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 1>of sense away. Because I agree with you, Pete since says,

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, a crime of passion.

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:09.959
<v Speaker 4>You know, even though he's used to this.

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Girl being a little promiscuous, this woman being a big promiscuous.

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:16.800
<v Speaker 3>I think it's also at this point in time, me personally,

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's the promiscuity that did it. I

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:22.840
<v Speaker 3>think in all likelihood, when you get a little further

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:26.760
<v Speaker 3>away out from the divorce, it's about money. It's about kids.

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you're gonna murder them to get your kids.

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying, but oj murder it.

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 3>Might be so pissed. I don't think it's like I'm

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 3>a killer so then I can have my kids, or

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna killer so then I don't have to pay

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 3>her any more money. It's probably like some goings on

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:45.800
<v Speaker 3>in that part of it more so, And it just fucky.

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:47.359
<v Speaker 3>You can talk yourself into a lot of shit.

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Then where'd you get And then where do you get

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>the knife? And then where do you get the knife?

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 3>Ain't no knife where any old knife.

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Ain't no knife just sitting outside? Jollywhere ain't no knife

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>just sitting the.

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 3>Knife for the sporting good store for cash?

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Think about it, if they if you would have bought

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 4>a knife, the would said OJ bought a knife. Why

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 4>would they say that a knight?

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.839
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so maybe he had one, Maybe he had a knife.

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 3>I have it. I have a knife. I got a

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:23.720
<v Speaker 3>knife that's been around for ten.

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 1>But the knife that did that would have had to

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 1>have been different. It's not like a pocket knife. That

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>was a knife like a like a like a butcher's knife.

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 1>It was a big knife.

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you could buy that at Big five for cash,

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:40.399
<v Speaker 3>like a hunter knife that you cut open a deer

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 3>with or some shit like that.

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but OJ walking around with a hunter's knife on

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>his side, you know the kind of knife you keeping

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a cake.

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 3>Walking around with it on the sidele damn day long?

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:54.879
<v Speaker 1>So so so genuinely Okay, So what do you feel happen?

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>You feel he went there to kill her, so he

0:40:58.320 --> 0:40:59.280
<v Speaker 1>had the knife there?

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think he found it on the way.

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:03.919
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he just went there without a plan.

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Was like, this is ridiculous. Look at that gold instead

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:09.399
<v Speaker 3>of this knife here, see that, and then just went

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:09.839
<v Speaker 3>all out.

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 4>But that wouldn't be a crime of passion.

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 3>I know, no, yeah, yeah, how because well that that's

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 3>the definition of crime of passion. It's just an emotionally

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 3>driven act of violent.

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:29.880
<v Speaker 4>But its instant, it's triggering.

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:32.759
<v Speaker 3>That would be highly reactive. A lot of not all

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.840
<v Speaker 3>chrime of passions are are hyper reactive.

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:39.959
<v Speaker 4>That would be premeditated murder.

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 1>If he went over there with a knife to kill her.

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:44.959
<v Speaker 3>It's like.

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:49.720
<v Speaker 2>If a dude go take time, Like I'm just thinking

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 2>like this, Peter, If you go good a knife and

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.360
<v Speaker 2>you go go kill somebody, you gonna put some tennis

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 2>shoes and some jeans on the T shirt.

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 1>At least I don't know. I don't know what You're

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna murder them fucking in.

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Just go kill a motherfucker. You go ask some ship

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 2>to wear office so you can run and you can

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 2>fight it again, and you know you can want the

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:11.360
<v Speaker 2>most confident when you're out there swinging that blade.

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:12.840
<v Speaker 4>Well, he doesn't have experience.

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine he's this is not his second kill,

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:17.720
<v Speaker 1>This is first and only gets part of the passion

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:18.240
<v Speaker 1>of the moment.

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:20.959
<v Speaker 3>He just said, Nope, the moment is now.

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:21.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 1>But but Pete like he was somewhere, was like, you

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm about to kill this bitch and was like,

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>let me go buy a knife. And he comes with

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>a knife, and he shows up and she just happened

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 1>to have somebody else there that just don't feel like.

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 2>You think took the time to go buy against you

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 2>and all that.

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Hell, that's what I'm saying. Where with the murder, where

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:47.399
<v Speaker 1>is the missing set? They would have shown a stack.

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 3>That's not true.

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:53.439
<v Speaker 4>In this case.

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 3>They wanted to buy in a set. I'm saying, if

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 3>you're buying.

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:57.359
<v Speaker 4>A set, I'm set.

0:42:57.400 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm saying, so if he buys it in a set, okay,

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 1>even then somebody, but even then they would have just

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 1>like when did he.

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Decide to knife sit and say, oh a knife is missing?

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 4>Hell, yeah, they peak tell him they would do that.

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:15.279
<v Speaker 3>If they would do that, that's that's if it's in

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 3>a set. Okay, I bought one off kitchen knives before

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 3>they were shitty and they're gone now.

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 1>But like, so he's he buys a hunting knife with

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:25.360
<v Speaker 1>the intensity of killer or he just has a hunting knife.

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 3>I personally, I think it was a boiling up type

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:34.839
<v Speaker 3>of thing. And there was probably like four or five

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:38.240
<v Speaker 3>instances before where he wanted to do it and didn't

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 3>and got a little closer to do it. I'm gonna

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 3>buy this ship, fuck it, talk himself out of it,

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:45.880
<v Speaker 3>talk himself back into it, boils up again, talks himself

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:47.840
<v Speaker 3>out of it, and then one day it just happened.

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:50.800
<v Speaker 4>But that type of ship peak don't happen. I don't know.

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:53.280
<v Speaker 4>Deuble homicide with a knife, that's.

0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 3>That that like he has just don't happen very often.

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how much.

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, well you like that, like that's like

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 1>rich or a mirror ass like and niggas is sleeping

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the house. Like it's hard to kill two motherfuckers with

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 1>a knife. That's woke. You ever notice that's like a

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 1>daunting task. Usually the second motherfucker gets stabbed, but they

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>don't die because they usually probably getting out of dog.

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 4>They saw you stabbed the first motherfucker.

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 2>A long test, like, it ain't like you've been out

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:24.799
<v Speaker 2>there killing motherfuckers with knives though, I'm just saying.

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever okay, you just okay? On a podcast

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 1>ago you said you shot somebody. You ever stabbed the motherfucker.

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 2>No, I ain't never stabbed.

0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 4>You ever seen a motherfucker get stabbed?

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:36.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 4>Are you gonna stab right there when that motherfucker gets stabbed?

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, the person getting stabbed is trying to run too.

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know I'm talking about.

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 1>You saw me getting stabbed, and it's a motherfucker that's

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:51.840
<v Speaker 1>a stabber. You mean you're gonna sit right there be

0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 1>looking like then nigg just stabbed glasses.

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Get this nigga with some shit, I'm gonna do so.

0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:58.399
<v Speaker 1>No, if that motherfucker turn around with that knife, your

0:44:58.440 --> 0:44:59.480
<v Speaker 1>ass is gonna run.

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:02.840
<v Speaker 4>That's the first immediate reaction.

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I would like to think if y'all saw me getting

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 2>stabbed with something of y'all looking for the strap for

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 2>y'all getting the better.

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 1>This strapped out? The strap over there, not the strap

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 1>right here? You got a knife stab in your ass.

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm not walking up on this motherfucker. Got a knife, Yeah,

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>that's true. Motherfucker gonna have to stab me in the back.

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:23.839
<v Speaker 1>Hold up, I need to go get a gun. This

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:26.879
<v Speaker 1>nigga gotta I need to one up this motherfucker. I'm

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 1>not finna go. Only girls do emotional ship like that.

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Somebody got a knife, they come out with a knife.

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 1>That's dumb as a motherfucker.

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:36.359
<v Speaker 4>You got a knife, I got a gun. You got

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 4>a gun. I got a Ouzie, I'm topping you.

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm not.

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 4>We're not.

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 1>It's just the fucking third century. We both got swords.

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:44.680
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna a knife fight.

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.359
<v Speaker 3>Like we're gonna tire our arms together like bad or whatever.

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Like.

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think she walked into it. I think she's

0:45:56.880 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 3>all says for how I know the way white women

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 3>handle stress?

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 2>For sure.

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 3>In every movie, I think she walked and walked.

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:09.720
<v Speaker 4>Why would you stab?

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 3>What's going on?

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:11.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god?

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 3>Why would you do that? What's that noise? Oh my god?

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 3>What's happening? And they just keep walking and why is

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 3>this next thing?

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:23.319
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:24.240
<v Speaker 3>Walk dead assid?

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:34.280
<v Speaker 4>Hey, this is why we're gonna get canceled. I fucking crying.

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 4>You just described every scary movie with a white woman.

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Some of those ones are are terrible. I don't watch

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 3>many of That's what those are.

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 1>More like, that's what would have happened in the cold.

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 1>She was like, well you're stabbing that man, I'm coming

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:51.919
<v Speaker 1>over there.

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:54.360
<v Speaker 3>And wouldn't have known the way I'm seeing is like,

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<v Speaker 3>look the corridor where all the blood is right, sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I got this.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got a tremendous amount of growth on both sides

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<v Speaker 3>and a wall and then an iron door. It's got

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<v Speaker 3>that metal meshy shit top to bottom. So you're in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of that. You aren't seeing shit, you're hearing shit,

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<v Speaker 3>and you just walk out and open the door and

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<v Speaker 3>you're right there because I don't think there's any way

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<v Speaker 3>for that to not be poorly lit, and you just

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<v Speaker 3>hear commotion and you have to walk in to find out.

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<v Speaker 3>And scary movies. They know the killers in the house.

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<v Speaker 3>They just for some reason want to stay in the

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<v Speaker 3>goddamn house that I don't understand. There's a whole lot

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<v Speaker 3>of outdoors and they're never in it. With the scary movies.

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<v Speaker 3>They always stay indoors.

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<v Speaker 4>This is why we getting casting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah