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Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Professional Homegirl Podcast. Before

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Speaker 1: we begin today's episode, we want to remind you that

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Speaker 1: be your lifeline. The Professional Homegirl Podcast is here to

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Speaker 1: celebrate the diverse voices, stories and experiences of women of color,

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Speaker 1: providing a platform for authentic and empowering conversations. There will

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Speaker 1: be some key king, some tears, but most importantly a

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Speaker 1: reminder that tough times don't last, but professional Homegirls do

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Speaker 1: enjoy the show.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to this week's episode of the

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Speaker 2: Professional Homegirl Podcast. Ishi Girl Ebina and I am super

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Speaker 2: excited for you all to hear this week's episode. Now today, Warriors,

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Speaker 2: we are diving into a deeply personal and transformative journey

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Speaker 2: with my guests, who shares her remarkable story of becoming

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Speaker 2: a Christian. We discuss the challenges she faced during this journey,

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Speaker 2: the moments of clarity that guided her, and how she

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Speaker 2: learned how to hear God's voice. We also discuss the

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Speaker 2: essential role of community in her spiritual journey. Whether you're

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Speaker 2: navigating your own faith or just curious about others' experiences.

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Speaker 2: This episode promises to offer both inspiration and insight. So

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Speaker 2: get ready because I am a Christian. Part one starts now,

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Speaker 2: all right, to my guests, how you doing? How you feeling?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good?

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Speaker 4: Since thank you so much for having me. How are

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Speaker 4: you you know?

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Speaker 3: I am good?

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Speaker 2: Y'all off the record, my guests just pray for us

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Speaker 2: to have a beautiful conversation. So I am feeling charged

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Speaker 2: up for this conversation. I'm so happy to have you here.

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Speaker 3: I am the true really honored that you would have me,

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Speaker 3: so thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So let's tell the audience how we met. So

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Speaker 2: I told the professional homegirls that I went to a retreat.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Tash. It was based out of Seattle.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say, would you say it was a Christian

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Speaker 2: retreat or a content creator Slash?

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Speaker 4: It was a content creator retreat. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: there was a very intentional emphasis on just spurring one

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Speaker 2: Sure, right, And so what my guess the funny thing is,

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Speaker 2: so I think I shared this with you, and I'll

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Speaker 2: definitely share this with my professional homegirls. But I've been

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Speaker 2: praying to like meet women who are really engulfed when

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Speaker 2: it comes to the Bible, like there's no the word,

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Speaker 2: because I want to be able to know the word, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, so I could be able to tell niggas

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Speaker 2: all that to say, we didn't really have a lot

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Speaker 2: of interactions at the retreat because you know, one thing

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Speaker 2: much had Bible study and I was sharing with the

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Speaker 2: ladies of you know, certain things that we're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about with the within our conversation today. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know what it was about you, like it was you.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was pretty much all of the ladies,

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Speaker 2: because everybody had their different respectives, but it was just

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Speaker 4: What would Yeah, yeah, I think that the Lord really

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Speaker 4: connected us that night, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah sure, right, Yeah, So I'm super excited to have

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Speaker 2: you on. I've been telling everybody about you, and I've

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Speaker 2: and I've been telling telling them about you, and they

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Speaker 2: also had some questions. So I'm super appreciative of this

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Speaker 3: Yah, I know you're the goat for that. Thank you

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Speaker 2: Yes, So, can you tell me a bit about your

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Speaker 4: So I grew up in southern California. I am one

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Speaker 4: I was never the same whatever. Yeah, and what was

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, like we're I feel like we're still getting

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Speaker 4: And so he filtered all of those things through his lens,

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Speaker 4: And my mom gave birth to my youngest brother in prison,

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Speaker 4: And so now I see her traveling the world using

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Speaker 4: very kind. O.

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Speaker 2: Wow, God bless your mom, man, because I can.

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Speaker 3: And that's the worship that I listened to throughout the day.

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Speaker 4: It really is effective. Sis, So I think that's brilliant.

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Speaker 4: My husband often will put the Bible in that night

441
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Speaker 4: as we're falling asleep, and I have a lot of

442
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 4: like anxiety in my sleep. I've always struggled with that

443
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 4: since I was a kid.

444
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 3: And where did you put from?

445
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 4: I think just the experiences from childhood, the unknowns, the change,

446
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 4: the traumas, the you know, like I sometimes wouldn't sleep

447
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 4: as a child, as a teenager, and even as an adult.

448
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 4: And so my husband says he started doing that, I noticed, like, oh,

449
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 4: I'd be real calm in my sleep.

450
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Speaker 3: It does.

451
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 4: It reminds me like the Word of God. Just it

452
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 4: just it's living and breathing, just like it says, you know.

453
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Speaker 2: Lit be skipping the work and ship on the train like.

454
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Speaker 3: You're good. There we go. Yeah.

455
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: Now is there a Bible story that has a profound

456
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Speaker 2: impact on you?

457
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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, where do I even begin? There's right now.

458
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 4: I'm really loving this story from Kings. It's Elijah the prophet.

459
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 4: He was scared, you know, he was running for his

460
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 4: life because Jezebel was having all the prophets.

461
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 3: Of God killed. And he was like, you know, he

462
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: said what he said.

463
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 4: She liked what he says, so she's like kill them all,

464
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 4: and he's running for his life, you know, he's in

465
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 4: this moment in the cave and he's like in despair,

466
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 4: and God sends like a raven to feed him, brings

467
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 4: him meat and bread, and he just makes this water

468
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 4: come out of nowhere to sustain him. And then he

469
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Speaker 4: says to him, go here and this woman will feed you.

470
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Speaker 4: So he goes and there's this single she's a single mom,

471
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Speaker 4: and he's like, woman, please give me, give me that bread.

472
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 4: And she's like, this is all I have left. I'm

473
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 4: eating this in this famine, me and my son as

474
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 4: our last meal, and then we're gonna go and die

475
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 4: because we have nothing more. And he's like, if you

476
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 4: do what the Lord has said and you feed me,

477
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Speaker 4: I promise you that the jar of flour will never

478
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Speaker 4: run out and the oil will never run dry.

479
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Speaker 3: And it says so she fed him.

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Speaker 4: The story goes on to say that the jar never

481
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 4: ran out, her oil never ran dry, her flour never

482
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Speaker 4: ran empty. A little bit later, her son dies and

483
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Speaker 4: she's like, are you for real? Like, be so for real?

484
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 4: I listen to you. You want to give me bread

485
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 4: and oil but no sun to feed it to, like,

486
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Speaker 4: why have you condemned me? And he reminds her what

487
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Speaker 4: God has done for you, then he will he can

488
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 4: do that for you again, and he lays on her son.

489
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Speaker 4: Her son comes back to life, and she's like, now

490
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 4: I know, now I know, And I often think about

491
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Speaker 4: that in my season, says of this is it my

492
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 4: seasons of scarcity? You know, when you grow up in

493
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Speaker 4: poverty and you don't know what is my well I

494
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Speaker 4: ever see my mom again. You don't know like what

495
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 4: life is going to look like from one day to

496
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Speaker 4: the next as a child, right, yeah, literally grow up

497
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Speaker 4: in survival, in scarcity mode, and so even it's all

498
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 4: you know. And so no matter how abundant of a

499
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 4: life my husband and I have built, I wrestle with scarcity.

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Speaker 4: When I read that story, I'm reminded that the struggle

501
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Speaker 4: and the temptation to operate out of scarcity comes from

502
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Speaker 4: this belief that God will actually allow the oil jar

503
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 4: to run dry in my life. But just like Elijah

504
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 4: told her, like, listen to the word of God, and

505
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 4: he will never let the oil run dry, and the

506
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 4: jar of flower will never run out. And so I'm

507
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 4: constantly reminding myself of that interaction between this woman and Elijah,

508
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 4: so much so that even when she experienced death. God

509
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 4: still did that thing for her, resurrected her son, and

510
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 4: she said, now I know when I ask myself, I've

511
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 4: had many now I know moments. So for me, there

512
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 4: is no going back because now I know.

513
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: You know yo that I'm telling you that is so

514
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: on point because in the group chat, one of the

515
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: ladies she shared just she asks people. She asked us

516
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: for some advice on like how do we navigate the unknown?

517
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: And for me, I feel like I've always been in

518
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: survivor mode. I feel like I'm just not starting to

519
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: be able to like come out the warden and just

520
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: be like you know what I'm saying, Like this really

521
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Speaker 2: catch my breath. So the fact that you even shared

522
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 2: that story was just right on time, because wow, that

523
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Speaker 2: that's man.

524
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Speaker 3: Praise God.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but God, he know he'd be now seriously, because

526
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Speaker 6: I think that a lot of us come from certain

527
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 6: neighborhoods and we're just trying to make it and you

528
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 6: don't want to take yeah, you don't want to think

529
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Speaker 6: I'm a scar As mindset, but it's like that's all you.

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Speaker 4: Know, Yeah, yeah, it when you know what the foundation

531
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Speaker 4: of your life is scarcity, it's almost like we know

532
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 4: one thing for sure, Right, if you have a garden,

533
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 4: the foundation, whatever the foundation is, is what is going

534
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 4: to reflect what it produces. So if the foundation is

535
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 4: bad and raggedy, you're not getting a good harvest. If

536
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 4: the foundation is rich and decaded, you're gonna get a

537
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: beautiful harvest.

538
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 3: And so the.

539
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 4: Foundation of our lives, if it's scarcity, and if it's trauma,

540
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 4: if it's hardship, everything that you do is.

541
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Speaker 3: Going to come from that.

542
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 4: So what that story reminds me of is I have

543
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Speaker 4: to plow the foundation and reset it with the fact

544
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 4: that now I do know because if not God. You know,

545
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 4: my mom, she was a young teenage girl with who

546
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 4: already had my older brother. She was at the abortion

547
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 4: clinic when I was in her womb, but she swears

548
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 4: that God told her, you know, that she was to

549
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: preserve my life. If not God, right, So now I

550
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 4: know that's a Now I know, Mom. No matter what

551
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: was going on as my parents try to navigate life

552
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 4: and get their lives together, I was protected.

553
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: I was kept, I was fed.

554
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 4: I was in a loving home, whether it be my grandmother,

555
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 4: my auntie, and my uncle, I was loved.

556
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: I was kept. Now I know right.

557
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 4: I have so many stories like that says I'm giving

558
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 4: birth to my third child, it's time, Like it's my time,

559
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 4: I'm bleeding out. I just in my heart, I was like, okay,

560
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 4: I'm dying this day. And I remember the doctors cutting

561
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 4: me open in that hallway, trying to save me, trying

562
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 4: to save my baby. And here I am. Now I know,

563
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 4: you know, And so I have so many moments like that.

564
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 4: That is now the foundation on which the things that

565
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 4: come from me sprout forth from is this idea that Okay,

566
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: I hear you God, and now I know that you

567
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 4: are good. Yo.

568
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Speaker 2: You know I was thinking about I was thinking about

569
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: some things with my childhood whatever, and when I was

570
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: preparing for this conversation, I was like, yo, God has

571
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: always been with me because I remember being a kid

572
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: and I just remember like just in some crazy ass

573
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: situation as a child, and like thinking, looking back now,

574
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: nothing ever happened to me. And I used to really

575
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: be like not to get emotional, but I would just

576
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: be like, damn, like God was really with me my

577
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: entire life.

578
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Speaker 4: Broy literally woo yeah. I Like we always hear everybody

579
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 4: quote you know, Jeremiah, Like when I knew you and

580
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: your mother's womb, you know, And I think, like that

581
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 4: is so real since I was in the shower one

582
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 4: night not that long ago, and I was just washing

583
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 4: lufah in body scrubbing, and I was like weeping out

584
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 4: of nowhere, like just what you said I have there

585
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 4: has been so much opportunity my life to end just

586
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 4: really messed me up.

587
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: And here I am.

588
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 4: Like that song of Reckless Lover, it says, before you

589
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 4: spoke the word, you were singing over me, like you

590
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 4: have been so so good to me, Like before I

591
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 4: entered this world, God was already singing over me, like yeah,

592
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 4: that in this moment in twenty twenty four year voice

593
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 4: was going to be used on something that would one

594
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Speaker 4: day be called the Internet, to penetrate the hearts of

595
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Speaker 4: those who listen. God knew, so he kept you. He preserved,

596
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: you don't.

597
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Speaker 5: Start crying, don't start to stop, like slow down, no, no, no,

598
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Speaker 5: but I'll just side no, you're I'm telling you, you

599
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Speaker 5: are so right.

600
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Speaker 2: Like one of the stories I'm going to share is

601
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Speaker 2: that when I was a kid. Everybody knows my mother

602
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: was an alcoholic and she got so drunk she passed

603
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Speaker 2: out and she forgot to come pick me up from school,

604
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: and I was literally at school till like late at night,

605
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: just sitting there, and I'm just thinking to myself, like wow,

606
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: like there could have been so many opportunities that something

607
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: could have happened to me.

608
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

609
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and look at God, Look at God. I preserved

610
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Speaker 4: you for this very moment.

611
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

612
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: People always quote in Esther when Mordecai says to her,

613
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 4: perhaps you were born for such a time as this,

614
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 4: and like, yes, like you were born for such a

615
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 4: time as this. You were protected waiting for your mother

616
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 4: outside of that school for such a time as this.

617
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: You know, you were preserved from all the traumas and

618
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: all the generational things. Because I'm sitting here talking to you.

619
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 4: You're not an alcoholic, that's generational. You were preserved. You

620
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 4: were kept for such a time as this. God doesn't

621
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 4: waste anything, sis, and look at your life. It is

622
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 4: not wasted. It is not wasted. Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: So, what is your advice when it comes to approaching,

624
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: understanding and reading the Bible, Because I do feel like

625
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: that is one of the things that people have a

626
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: hard time when it comes to understanding and getting closer

627
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: to God.

628
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely Okay, So when you said that earlier, like sometimes

629
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 4: you'd be reading the Bible and you'd be like, what

630
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 4: are these words?

631
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: Girl?

632
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 4: When I tell you, sometimes I'd be in the Old

633
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 4: Testament and I'm like, God, you know.

634
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 3: What's so crazy?

635
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: It'd be the best sleep too.

636
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: You feel me like, okay, God, you was credile of

637
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: me with this, all right.

638
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 4: I think everybody should start reading the Bible and the Gospels,

639
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 4: which is where we're introduced to Jesus, and we know

640
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: that Jesus is the redemption, right, he is the mediator

641
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 4: between God and man. And so I think when we

642
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: start understanding the character and the person of Jesus, we

643
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 4: start to understand God more. And so when we go

644
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 4: back to the Old Testament, when we're reading some of

645
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: those things that do seem a little bit more complex

646
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 4: or deep or boring, like we're seeing it through the

647
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 4: lens of the resurrected Savior. Right. I also think that

648
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 4: getting a version of the Bible that you can understand

649
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 4: and getting a commentary a commentary is literally like you

650
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: know how they'd be like have those books like Fashion

651
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 4: for Dummies or Driving for dumb.

652
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: A commentary feels like that to me.

653
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 4: It's literally I recommend doctor Tony Evans because he is

654
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 4: the first black person to ever read a commentary and

655
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 4: we celebrate that. Yeah, getting that commentary you feel me.

656
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: Yes, we're here for it.

657
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 4: Getting a commentary and letting that like using that, utilizing

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00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 4: that as a resource. But entering the word praying when

659
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Speaker 4: I enter the word sys till this day, Like I said,

660
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Speaker 4: I've been reading the Bible since I was seventeen, and

661
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: every time before I open the word, I ask God,

662
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: help me to know you more in these scriptures because

663
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 4: I believe that you are hearing the word and whatever

664
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 4: that means. Sometimes since I'd be stuck on two verses

665
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 4: for days and that's okay, take your time with it

666
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 4: and super important. I know I talked about this at

667
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 4: the retreat, but we were made for community. Get in

668
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: a community where you can dialogue, where you can ask

669
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Speaker 4: hard questions. Some things in the Bible are hard to digest. Yes,

670
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 4: get in a community where you can ask hard questions,

671
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 4: where you can pick the brain, where you can ask

672
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 4: for deeper understanding, ask for prayer so that you can

673
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 4: get that revelation from the Holy Spirit that is so important.

674
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: Like uh, Ecclesiastes, for she says.

675
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 5: No Bible out, I'm gonna go ahead.

676
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 4: Ecclesiastes, for it says that we are better together. Two

677
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 4: are better than one, for if one the other is

678
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 4: there to pick him up. And it says, woe to

679
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 4: the man the woman who stands alone, for if they fall,

680
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 4: who is there to pick them up? And it says,

681
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: but a three strand cord is even better than this.

682
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 4: You know you got you got a man, his homeboy,

683
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 4: the Holy Spirit. You got ebene her homegirl, the Holy Spirit.

684
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 4: A three strand court is better even still. And so

685
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 4: get in community. We were made for community. Walk through

686
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 4: this thing, this book with somebody. You have the Holy

687
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 4: Spirit living in you. He will give you revelation. And

688
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 4: take your time. I can't stand when there's these like

689
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 4: get through the Bible in four months Bible plans and

690
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 4: stuff like that, Like why what's the point. Like if

691
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,959
Speaker 4: if I started reading the Bible today and I only

692
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 4: had three months to live and I didn't know it,

693
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 4: that was enough.

694
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Speaker 3: That was enough.

695
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 4: God gave me enough time in His word. And so

696
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 4: take your time with it, getting community. Enter it prayerfully

697
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: and God will reveal it to you.

698
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Speaker 2: He will listen y'all. We was having our Bible study.

699
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 2: It got a little spicy because I was asking some questions.

700
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 2: I was in podcast mode.

701
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: I was going deep with it.

702
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 5: I love it.

703
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: Listen, and there was some differences of opinions because we

704
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: have some different denominations in there. But I will say

705
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: that it was very enlightening because I was raised Baptist.

706
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: So when I was in the room with you and

707
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: the other ladies and just to hear it was a

708
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: healthy like conversation. It wasn't like all jokes aside. But

709
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: I do agree with you, like you need to get

710
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: into community and you need to ask those hard questions.

711
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: But I also think it's important to ask those questions

712
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: to the people who can provide clarity. And a lot

713
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: of people be making you even more confused than you

714
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: need to be.

715
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And one thing I would say when you are

716
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 4: asking questions of people, like you did such an excellent

717
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 4: job that night of just asking questions because as yeah,

718
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Speaker 4: and you know, you know what it's like. It was

719
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 4: so cool because you weren't hesitant, You didn't like care

720
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Speaker 4: if people were overly religious or people had different no nominations.

721
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Speaker 3: You were just asking the questions.

722
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Speaker 4: One thing that I really value about that night is

723
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 4: that it's easy to listen to people's opinions, right, but

724
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 4: opinions really mean nothing. And a lot of times people

725
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 4: will share their opinion of the Word of God. I

726
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 4: always say, if somebody is not giving you a direct scripture,

727
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 4: if somebody is not like Bible in hand walking you

728
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 4: through this thing, then they're just giving you their opinion. Yeah,

729
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 4: and so find someone who knows their word and will

730
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 4: walk with you through that. And then there's this part

731
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Speaker 4: in I believe in Acts, maybe Corinthians, but where Paul

732
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 4: he preaches and Paul he wrote like two thirds of

733
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 4: the New Testament. It like he's that guy, right, But

734
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 4: there's this part where he's preaching to this group of people.

735
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 4: They were the Bareans, and it said they went home

736
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 4: daily examining the scriptures to make sure that his words

737
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 4: were true. Be a Barean, go and make sure that

738
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 4: when somebody's telling you something, you get in that word

739
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 4: yourself and you examine it and make sure that those

740
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 4: words are true, and the Holy Spirit in you will

741
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: it will reveal those things.

742
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Speaker 2: Listen, you had your bible, Bible was closed, but she

743
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: was spending stuff and some of the other girls, Like

744
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: the other girls definitely were very fluent in the Bible.

745
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Speaker 2: I would think that if I'm being honest, like, I

746
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: know who God is and I know who my savor

747
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ is, but I'm not I wasn't as fluent

748
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: as you all was in the Bible. But yeah, I

749
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: definitely agree with you, like, and I was definitely like

750
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: asking questions. And I also say that I'm a tough cookie,

751
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: so like, I knew the role that I was in,

752
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: but I also wanted to challenge and have a challenge

753
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: and dialogue with everyone because I know that there were

754
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: different denominations in the room. And I thought it was

755
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: I thought it was really good for.

756
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 4: Sure too, it was it was some of us for

757
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: literally talking through that conversation until the sun came up.

758
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 4: And so yeah, it was beautiful and I love that,

759
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 4: and I love that you asked those questions. You were

760
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 4: in podcast mode, and I noticed that. I was like, oh,

761
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 4: she on her stuff, right.

762
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: Because it start I think it started off with just

763
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Speaker 2: me and you. I don't know, I.

764
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: Don't even know how we got to that point.

765
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: We was really just having a good night eating some

766
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 4: pizza and some wigs.

767
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: And right right right, we were You're right, we were

768
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it was church.

769
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Speaker 3: It was church room, right right.

770
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Speaker 2: So what did your advice when it comes to prayer

771
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Speaker 2: and how did your prayer change over time? Because I

772
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 2: think a lot of people struggle with that as well.

773
00:38:54,080 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So prayer is to me the greatest privilege

774
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 4: that God has given us because we can commune with Him.

775
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 4: I think in different seasons my prayer life looks different.

776
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: But one thing that I try to really focus on

777
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 4: is not making prayer just a moment to ask.

778
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 3: God for everything. Right.

779
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 4: So in Philippians Paul says, I think Philippians three, Paul says,

780
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 4: thank God for what he has already done, ask God

781
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 4: for what you need, and then you will have the

782
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 4: peace that surpasses all understanding.

783
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 3: And so it says, by.

784
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 4: Do everything by prayer and supplication, right as thank God

785
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 4: for what He's done, ask God for what you need,

786
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 4: he will give you peace.

787
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Speaker 3: And so I kind of use that recipe of like.

788
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 4: I want to spend a lot of time thanking God

789
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: for what He has done for me, so that in

790
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 4: prayer and worship just a dialogue in communication. And then

791
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 4: I do have needs, and I'm gonna trust God with

792
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 4: those things and then praying for some. So I always

793
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 4: want to make sure that if I'm praying for something

794
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 4: for myself, I have lifted up ten prayers to God

795
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: on behalf of my sisters, my brothers, my family in Christ,

796
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 4: the world, the nation, whatever, so that my whole attachment

797
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 4: to prayer isn't me centered, but centered on who God

798
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 4: is as this great, big God. I believe that God

799
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 4: is a way maker and a miracle worker. But every

800
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 4: time I go into prayer, I do also go into

801
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 4: prayer knowing that He is also a sovereign and he

802
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 4: does know what's best. And so, Lord, after I ask

803
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 4: for something, this is my request to you, but I

804
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 4: do trust your will and if I don't like the outcome,

805
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 4: will you help me to get through it? And so, yeah,

806
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 4: I think that prayer is communication with God.

807
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Speaker 3: I am. My husband is my best friend. Right. We

808
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: communicate about everything.

809
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 4: We have hard conversations, we have good conversations, we have

810
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 4: funny conversations, we have depressing conversations, we have annoying conversation.

811
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Speaker 3: We communicate about everything.

812
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 4: I take that same principle to God, since I could

813
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 4: be driving and be like, Lord, I just don't like

814
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 4: understand why you made mosquitos. But one day, like I'd

815
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 4: just be talking all roaches, you know, like what did

816
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 4: they do for us?

817
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: Like?

818
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 4: Or sometimes I'd be like driving in on my mind.

819
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 4: You may come to mind and I'm just praying over

820
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 4: you and just thanking God for you for that I

821
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: saw you post on Instagram today and that there's breath

822
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 4: in your lungs and that He will give you exceedingly

823
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 4: abundantly above what you can ask or think, you know.

824
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 4: So to me, prayer is just constant dialogue with somebody

825
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 4: that you deem as you would your best friend, you know.

826
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Speaker 3: Yo.

827
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 2: I'll be praying for myself and then I start praying

828
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: for people and they're like all right, God, amen, Oh

829
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 2: wait wait, and I also want to.

830
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Speaker 3: Go literally I'd be like, wait, let me bread this background.

831
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: Oh and like yes.

832
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Speaker 4: And I have moments where prayer is casual, like casual conversation.

833
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 4: I have moments when prayer is reverent and I try

834
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 4: to but like I said, I try to start my

835
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 4: day and end my day praying on my knees because

836
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 4: I want to revere God. I want to like bound

837
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 4: down to him, as a physical act of I just

838
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 4: trust you. You are the Lord of my life. As

839
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 4: I begin this day and as I end this day,

840
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 4: and throughout the day, it's casual. There may be a

841
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 4: moment where we just lay in hands, you know. There

842
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: may be a moment where I'm just in the kitchen

843
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 4: cookie and I'm just talking to God. There may be

844
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 4: a moment where I'm just thinking Him and I end

845
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 4: out in full praise.

846
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 3: And so it is.

847
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 4: It's levels to this, but it's just communication with the Lord.

848
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: That's how I see it.

849
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 4: You know.

850
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Speaker 2: Is it hard for you to balance your faith with

851
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: other aspects of your identity, especially when it comes to

852
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: your personal interest No, I didn't think so. But has

853
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: it ever been?

854
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

855
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know I wanted so not know, it's not

856
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: hard as much as it is not.

857
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 3: Okay, there's this verse.

858
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 4: Yet, Okay if Philippians for Paul talks about not that

859
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 4: I have already attained these things, but I press on

860
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 4: towards the prize. I run this race not as somebody

861
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 4: beating against the air, but with the goal in mind. Right,

862
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 4: And so when I think about what my personal interests

863
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: are filtered through the Holy Spirit, I think about this

864
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 4: constant running of the race, and so it's not hard

865
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 4: as much as it is a working you know. So

866
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 4: I get there, I have what I say, umpteenth conviction.

867
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 4: Some things that are just so casual and cool for

868
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 4: other believers, the Holy Spirit in me just does not

869
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 4: release me to those things like what and that could

870
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 4: a music that I love, like I'm a music girl.

871
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: I grove a very musical family.

872
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 4: And there is so many moments where I'm listening to

873
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 4: like some of my faiths, and I'm just like, this

874
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 4: is not what my spirit is desiring, and so I

875
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 4: put on worship or a podcast. There's drinking, Like I

876
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 4: love to have a glass of wine, but when I'm

877
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 4: in certain setting, certain environments, I think there is this

878
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 4: discernment in me that's like I can't, I can't do

879
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 4: this right now. In this moment, I realized later, oh,

880
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 4: there was somebody who struggle with alcoholism in the room

881
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 4: listening to that Holy Spirit in me. So that's why

882
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 4: I say it's a constant wrestling of like there are

883
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 4: things that I am in this world right so there

884
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 4: are things that appeal to my flesh that the spirit

885
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 4: in me don't really mess with like that, and so

886
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 4: it's just who's going to win the battle. And I

887
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 4: spend so much time in the word sis, I spend

888
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 4: so much time in prayer and a community so that

889
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 4: my spirit can win the battle. Because I am no

890
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 4: better than anybody else. I am no different than anybody else.

891
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 4: I have the desires, the passions, all of those things.

892
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 4: But but that is why I attach myself to spiritual

893
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 4: things so that when that wrestling happens, I'm surrendered.

894
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: You know, what does God's voice sound like to you?

895
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 3: Ooh? So this has been a hard one for me

896
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: since the moment I got saved.

897
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 4: You know, people be like God said, God told me,

898
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 4: God said right, I would say in my relationship with

899
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 4: God that has never happened to me where I feel like, oh,

900
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 4: God said, Oh, God told me. I would say that

901
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 4: it is a deep, almost like longing or even grievance

902
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 4: in my soul that I feel when I know that

903
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 4: God is in or is not in something. And so

904
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 4: for me lately, I have been getting a lot of

905
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 4: prophetic words, and I think because I've been in this

906
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 4: season of exhaustion, like I just don't know what God

907
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 4: wants from me or for me, that it is kindness.

908
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 4: He is sending prophetic people to speak into my life.

909
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 4: Sometimes that will be that I'm just wrestling with something

910
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 4: in prayer and I open the Word and it was

911
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 4: so clearly a response to what I've been wrestling with,

912
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 4: and that was God's voice. Sometimes it will be like

913
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 4: my body will physically feel ill when I am not

914
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 4: operating in what I know that God is calling me

915
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 4: to and to me, those are all ways that I

916
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 4: hear God. So it's not plain, okay. In the Old Testament,

917
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 4: there was a moment where a hand wrote on the wall.

918
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 4: It was just a hand out of nowhere. It says,

919
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 4: these people chilling living their life, a hand writes on

920
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 4: the wall what God wanted them to know. That don't

921
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 4: happen no more, okay, because I ain't never seen it.

922
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: So I'm like, Laura, where is the hand except here?

923
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 4: But those are the ways that He speaks to me,

924
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 4: and so I just try to really heed to those things.

925
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 3: You know.

926
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like when I hear God's voice, I

927
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: don't know it's something that's intent.

928
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: It's like, yes, it's like shit, it shakes you up.

929
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like yeah, it's very like like I hear him

930
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: clearly and I'd be like, all right, all right, all right,

931
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: you got it.

932
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I have this moment right where I was

933
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 4: doing like a lot of really cool things in styling,

934
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 4: and I love fashion, and so I had all these

935
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 4: big styling moments, and for some reason it was not

936
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 4: bringing me the joy that I thought it would bring.

937
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 4: And I was frustrated because I had worked in ministry

938
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 4: mostly my whole adult life, and I was like, I'm

939
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: kind of bumped out, like I'm trying to make my money.

940
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 3: Okay, and do what is fun to me. So I

941
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 3: wasn't having it.

942
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: Wasn't it wasn't being like fun like I thought it was.

943
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 4: So I'm wrestling, I'm struggling, God, what is this?

944
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: What is this feeling?

945
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 4: And I feel like I heard these words like if

946
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 4: not this, then what I feel like. I heard the

947
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 4: words wash the feet of women, and I was like,

948
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 4: what in the world, Like that is very boring, Like

949
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 4: I've been doing ministre. No, I'm good.

950
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,479
Speaker 3: Let me dress people and get paid big money.

951
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 4: Okay, girl, when I tell you, I just somebody on

952
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 4: Instagram DM me they had a dream about me. When

953
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 4: one of the lady who bought my house, one of

954
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 4: my houses she's a very strong, profetic gifting. God gave

955
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 4: her a vision for me at a conference, this guy

956
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 4: walks up to me. God gave me a wordview all

957
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 4: of the words pertain to those words that I heard,

958
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 4: watch the feet of women. I was like, oh, so

959
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 4: that was what the voice of God sounded like, this

960
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 4: small voice in my mind that was so strong that

961
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 4: I knew it wasn't my own thought, because why would

962
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 4: I give up.

963
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 3: Money right to serve women?

964
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 6: Like right?

965
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 3: And it was God.

966
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 4: And so then it helped me to realize that it

967
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 4: is actually sometimes just a small but like you said,

968
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 4: powerful like I feel it deeply voice. And so now

969
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 4: I try to be more intentional about hating to that,

970
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 4: especially when I know that that was.

971
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 3: Not for me. That's not what I want you feel

972
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 3: me like, But.

973
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: I also feel like I also feel like God's voice

974
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: is repetitive because irritatingly. Yes, like I can't tell you

975
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: how many times, like I mean, I've been very open

976
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 2: about like you know, these past couple of weeks, it's

977
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: been kind of rough for me. It just just constantly

978
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: non stop going like grinding, hustling, like I was really battling,

979
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: like damn, like I don't want to feel like an

980
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: ningrade because I'm standing in the blessings that I pray for.

981
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: But then I'm also ain't no spring chicken, and like I'm.

982
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 3: Feeling it.

983
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: Like I need a nap, you know, girl, I need

984
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: a long nap, right. But I will say that every

985
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 2: time when I had moments over like I'm just like

986
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: I can't no more. God always sends a message to

987
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: somebody and it be so random. Wow, it just like it.

988
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 3: Yo.

989
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 2: It was one time this girl sent me a message

990
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: and I literally started crying and then I actually had

991
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: a conversation with her and I started crying out of

992
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: nowhere and she was like, what's going or and I

993
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 2: told her and she started crying. I'm like, girl, I said, God,

994
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: really use you to tell me to keep going because

995
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: I was about throwing a towel, like I was that exhausted.

996
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, no, that's so good. And I think that,

997
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 4: like I said, God is kind and so sometimes we're

998
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 4: not getting the message, like we're not hearing him. But

999
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 4: so Will said, you feel me like random, Like I said,

1000
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 4: it's random person on Instagram, somebody that I used to

1001
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 4: live in a different state with. So like all these

1002
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 4: random encounters, and I'm like, okay.

1003
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 3: I hear you.

1004
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, let up, let up, Okay, I hear you.

1005
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: Is it important for you to fellowship with other Christians

1006
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: while you're on this journey?

1007
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, absolutely, let me tell you, says, I

1008
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 4: strongly believe that the fellowship of believers is a mercy

1009
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 4: from God.

1010
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 3: Iron sharpens iron.

1011
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 6: Right.

1012
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 4: Proverb tells us we two are better than one. Right

1013
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 4: what Ecclesiastes tells us again in Proverbs It says that

1014
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 4: like a friend stands closer than your brother, right, Like

1015
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 4: the people that I know in Christ in the faith have.

1016
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 3: Held me, have kept me.

1017
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 4: There is this moment in Exodus where Moses is called

1018
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 4: to the hilltop and he's basically supposed to keep watch

1019
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 4: the Israelites. When he drops his arms, they know it's

1020
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 4: safe for them to move forward in battle.

1021
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 3: So he goes up there.

1022
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 4: And because he understood the concept of community, because remember

1023
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 4: Moses had that speech impediment, so when God called him

1024
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 4: to speak to Pharaoh, God let him take his brother

1025
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 4: have communos so that his brother.

1026
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 3: Could speak for him.

1027
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 4: So he had already understands, Oh, I need people to

1028
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 4: do this thing that God has called me to.

1029
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 3: So he goes into the mountain. He takes Air and

1030
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 3: his brother, and he takes her his homeboy.

1031
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, he gets up there holding his arms up. It

1032
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 4: said that he grew weary, so that they put a

1033
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 4: rock under him and he sat. But then it said

1034
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 4: that his arms began to drop. If his arms would

1035
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 4: have dropped, the Israelites would have thought, Okay, his arms

1036
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 4: are down, it's safe, let's go into battle.

1037
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 3: They would have been overcome. They would have been destroyed.

1038
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: Right.

1039
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 3: But because of.

1040
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 4: His understanding of community, Aaron and her came on him

1041
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 4: on either side and they held his arms up. They

1042
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 4: helped him complete the task that God set before him.

1043
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 4: He never They didn't take the task from him, They

1044
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 4: helped him. I think about all of my life in

1045
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 4: Christ through that story. Who was going to hold my

1046
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 4: arms up when they grow weary? Who will place the

1047
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 4: rock under me so that if I fall, I don't

1048
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 4: hit the ground hard. You know, that is why it

1049
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 4: is important to be communal and to do community with

1050
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 4: other believers so that your arms never fall and you

1051
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 4: don't lead the people into ruin.

1052
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: You know, have you had meaningful interactions with other people

1053
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 2: from different faiths?

1054
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1055
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 4: I think I am very I love people like I

1056
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 4: think that I get that everyone is God's unique creation,

1057
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 4: and so I don't like filter my relationships through people

1058
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 4: having the same beliefs as me, having the same understandings

1059
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 4: as me, And so I think I learned from other

1060
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 4: people all the time. I learned from their kindness. I

1061
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 4: learned from their ability to give, their ability to love,

1062
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 4: their ability to teach their you know.

1063
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 3: And so I have had beautiful relationships with people who

1064
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 3: don't believe like me. For sure.

1065
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 2: Now, one of the things I actually doing our Bible

1066
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 2: study when we first met during a retreat, was about

1067
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 2: all the different denominations because we did have a different

1068
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: denomination within you then that girl talk or Bible study.

1069
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: So if all these denominations are reading from the same Bible,

1070
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: why do you think it's necessary for to be different denominations?

1071
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: Why can't there just be one?

1072
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that that has always really confused me. Like

1073
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 4: I remember being really young in my faith and being like,

1074
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 4: first of all, this is so confusing because y'all all

1075
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 4: the same book and y'all all do different things. You

1076
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 4: feel me like, this is wild. So one thing that

1077
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 4: I have learned in my own reading of the Scripture

1078
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 4: is that one we are all human, right, so we

1079
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 4: are always battling with our own understanding, with our own ideas,

1080
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 4: with our own concepts. Oftentimes people will read the Word

1081
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 4: and they'll look for themselves and it not God, and

1082
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 4: so they'll interpret it.

1083
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 3: What does this mean to me? For me? By me?

1084
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 4: We create sometimes whole denominations based off of that. Paul

1085
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 4: says in Corinthians that we see as but through in

1086
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 4: a foggy mirror, and we will not see clearly until

1087
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 4: He who is perfect comes right. And so I don't

1088
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 4: discredit other as you learned that night, I'm very open

1089
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 4: to listen to anybody who.

1090
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: I was watching, because that was way other fellow Christians

1091
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: know who she is.

1092
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 6: Baby.

1093
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 3: I was like, calm damn girl, you feel me? So, yeah,

1094
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 3: that is not me right.

1095
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Speaker 4: Why that is not me is because I'll never be

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Speaker 4: arrogant to think that I know it all and they

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Speaker 4: do that. I will always be open to the Lord

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Speaker 4: using somebody else. And if it doesn't sit right with me,

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Speaker 4: like some things that were said that night, I didn't

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Speaker 4: agree with that because that's not what the spirit in

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00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 4: me is like resonating with in the Word. But one

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00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 4: thing I cling to is Paul literally said, we see

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00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 4: but in a foggy mirror. Y'all don't know it all either.

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00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So.

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Speaker 4: What I try to base it off of sis love God,

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00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 4: love people, hate the evil in this world.

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Speaker 3: And if what you are.

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00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 4: Arguing about doesn't have anything to do with that, it's

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Speaker 4: just wasting your breath.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 4: And so that's kind of how I see it, Like,

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Speaker 4: does your understanding or does your denomination lead you to

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00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 4: loving God and loving his creation and pursuing justice in

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00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 4: this world. If it does be whatever denomination.

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Speaker 2: You want, Listen, we know and alost, we got the

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00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 2: same goal, that's all that matters.

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Speaker 3: You feel me right exactly?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts when some people think that certain

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Speaker 2: denominations are cults?

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Speaker 3: That's so interesting.

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Speaker 4: So I recently have been like trying to do some

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Speaker 4: study on that on like some cultish behaviors and denominations.

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Speaker 3: I think that it.

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Speaker 4: We kind of like live in a time where it's

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00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 4: so quick to label someone or something, right, So I

1127
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 4: just was really like, yeah, I would really caution people

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00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 4: to be careful when you're trying to put a label

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00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 4: on someone some denomination. There are I think some denominations

1130
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 4: that have very cultish behaviors, you know, I do I

1131
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 4: see that.

1132
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to be spicy and actually wish

1133
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 2: you one.

1134
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 3: The spirit is the spirits tell me. Even still, even.

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00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 4: Still, I'm I would be quick to say that I

1136
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 4: don't I one thing I do know is that I

1137
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 4: don't know that much.

1138
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 3: Said to Gud.

1139
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 4: But now she don't know that much because I'm like,

1140
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 4: I could be really quick to filter some of my

1141
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 4: thoughts through my own experiences right or through my own

1142
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 4: hurts or my own pains. So one thing I will

1143
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 4: say is that if a denomination is leading you do

1144
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 4: some crazy stuff up, leave your family, leave your household, uh,

1145
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 4: give them all your stuff. Uh, Like what happened with

1146
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 4: Jim Jones. You remember that nip not dipset, but the

1147
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 4: other man who took all the people to the island drink.

1148
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: It's a cult.

1149
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 4: If they asking you to go to an island, it's

1150
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 4: a cult. If they're asking you to cut off your family,

1151
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 4: your relatives, it's a cult. Like let's be so for

1152
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 4: you feel me, like be so far. Like there's some

1153
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 4: things that like a sis. You just you got eyes open, Okay,

1154
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 3: I think some of these things are getting a little

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00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 3: scary out here, you know, Yeah, I agree, you feel me.

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Speaker 2: This concludes part one of this week's episode. Stay till

1158
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: for part two, dropping next week, same time, same place.

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1160
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00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:13,080
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