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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Waken Jake Myself, Jake's story, Ellie

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Speaker 1: at talking Jake, Big Baby David on the Wheels of Steel.

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Speaker 1: As it is June seventeenth. What that's like a middle

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Speaker 1: of summer day along the Northeast. It feels like summer

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Speaker 1: just started. I guess we're a little biased. Just went

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Speaker 1: to the Joysey Shore this weekend. We had a live event.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone who came out. A couple couple

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Speaker 1: of bakers there so appreciate all that. And we had

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Speaker 1: a good time. Except for the New York Yankees getting embarrassed,

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Speaker 1: which I'll talk about a little bit. We got a

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Speaker 1: we got a fun one. Right before the buzzer, every

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Speaker 1: America's GM. Jim Bowden came out on the Athletic with

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Speaker 1: his five trades he'd like to see, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: dive into him and rip them apart. No, I uh.

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Speaker 1: With articles like this, you gotta find the find the

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Speaker 1: actual takeaways you can grab, whether that's a certain player's

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Speaker 1: oh that A I like that and I've got something

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Speaker 1: off the rip there. I guess I should. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We can address the Yankees, who just had an embarrassing

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Speaker 1: loss on national television. Nine stolen bases. That's the final number. Nine.

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Speaker 1: I had ten in my head nine times nine nine

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Speaker 1: times the Yankees got stolen on by the bast in

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Speaker 1: Red Sox. It was one of those things. There was

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Speaker 1: almost a little John Boy media pat ourselves on the

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Speaker 1: back because early on this year there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of conversations about Jose Travino's throwing in Austin Wells and yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's one of those Yankees hold your butt moments because

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Speaker 1: they are playing the Orioles and then the Braves right

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Speaker 1: goes back to back, So that's a that's a chunky

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Speaker 1: part of the schedule. Huh. First Red Sox series Royals,

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Speaker 1: who I should give more credit to, although the Yankees

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Speaker 1: bullyball them, Royals Socks Orioles Braves where it seemed like

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Speaker 1: the Red Sox just gave a pretty good formula on

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Speaker 1: how to beat the Yankees. If you want, put some

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Speaker 1: athletes out there, swipe some bags, see what happens. Uh,

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Speaker 1: pretty embarrassing. They were doing little league plays like if

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Speaker 1: about throwing down. It was a It's a tough thing

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Speaker 1: to watch, especially when you're hosting a live event for

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Speaker 1: two hundred people. So sorry to all our Yankee friends

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Speaker 1: that are there the beauty of baseball. If the Yankees

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Speaker 1: beat the Orioles this week, kind of everything's good. But

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Speaker 1: this Yankees team is flawed. And I guess if you

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Speaker 1: have a Yankee fan in your life that's critical of

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Speaker 1: the team, hey draw some boundaries. If they're being critical

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Speaker 1: of Judge and Soto, you've already lost us. But be

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Speaker 1: this team. This team has some holes in it. First

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Speaker 1: base has been ugly. Anthony Rizzo just got hurt and

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Speaker 1: he has not been performing. DJ lem Mayhew is back

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Speaker 1: for first or third, has not been performing as well

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Speaker 1: to Cabrera since the first couple weeks of the season.

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Speaker 1: He could play anywhere, hasn't been performing. And Glaver Torres,

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Speaker 1: who let me start on the highest notes. If Glaver

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Speaker 1: Torres wins a ring with the Yankees, he falls into

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Speaker 1: such a weird category of like played six years, couple

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Speaker 1: time All Star World Series champ that I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Glaber Torres enters like a whole new happy world of Yankees.

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Speaker 1: If this is somehow how it ends with Glaber, whether

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season or people are on

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Speaker 1: the office are saying he might be out, might not

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Speaker 1: be the perfect fit for this team. They could use

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Speaker 1: bat for a second baseman. I'll get away from the Yankees,

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Speaker 1: but that was that was a tough watch as someone

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Speaker 1: hosting a watch party for other Yankee fans. I guess

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Speaker 1: some other Just MLB around the Horn real quick, the

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Speaker 1: baseball boogie, that's what we call it on Talking or

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Speaker 1: that's a song on Talking Baseball, And I've been looking

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Speaker 1: Horn segment. So let me see what else I can

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Speaker 1: boogie for you. How about those Red Socks plus thirty

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Speaker 1: eight run differential? Uh, that would be one, two, three, four, five,

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Speaker 1: six seven, So their eighth best run differential in baseball.

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Speaker 1: If you look at their numbers on paper, their offense,

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Speaker 1: good reps in in Boston because it's sneaky. Been a

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Speaker 1: Craig Breslow season. Very interesting deadline for them. You'd love

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Speaker 1: Interested to see their next steps. My Blue Jays are

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Speaker 1: still fighting the fight. They beat the guard dogs. They

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Speaker 1: stay alive. Keep your Boba Schet rumors out of here

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Speaker 1: for now. In the Central Twins won five in a row,

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Speaker 1: check what Correy is doing. Krey has been a loony

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Speaker 1: they need a little more help. They really got hurt

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Speaker 1: That's not a team a lot of people thought was

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Speaker 1: going to be purged. But our guy, Jack Flaherty is

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Speaker 1: They've been actually hot. Do they have the best home

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Speaker 1: a Philly sorry, but their run differentials starting to get there.

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Speaker 1: five trades America's GM Jim Bowden would like to see.

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Speaker 1: And I have to reverse engineer this because if you

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Speaker 1: We'll get to number one. We'll start at number five.

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Speaker 1: Luis Severino. Hey, we know that guy. He's pitching for

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Speaker 1: the New York Mets, who, by the way, are a

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Speaker 1: would love to sell and they should. But nobody knows

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Speaker 1: But the Orioles, they are one of the people that,

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Speaker 1: BBD will tell you as well. Luis Severino as a

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Speaker 1: In his career sixteen games, opponents have a one forty

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Speaker 1: about that? See you there, Eric Fetti, Jim Bowden, America's

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Speaker 1: well defensively at third base. He can also play second

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Speaker 1: I think if Ryan McMahon played in a controlled environment,

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Speaker 1: on base whatever. Josh Rojas has been a breakout player

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Speaker 1: We did this one day, but his numbers are better

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Speaker 1: I would love Ryan McMahon to get out of Colorado,

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Speaker 1: about this, here's some dumb Yankee stuff. If Ryan McMahon

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Speaker 1: that as a good contract. Other teams could see that

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Speaker 1: as a bad contract. That I think teams are probably

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Speaker 1: throwing junk at the Rockies because they're also not the

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Speaker 1: most respected front office that I would I would love,

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Speaker 1: would love if I had that chip to cash in

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Speaker 1: to be in flying the wall for those trade talks.

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Speaker 1: Number two, let Gold Twins acquire Pete Alonso. Well hey

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Speaker 1: for Alex Kirilov, David Festa and Luke Keishaw. Okay, my

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Twins, me and my friend Trevor, Like I open

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Speaker 1: up with this, I'm gonna start respecting the Twins a

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Speaker 1: little bit more. Uh Correa, He's obviously not gonna keep

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Speaker 1: hitting how he is, but his numbers are back to

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Speaker 1: where a good Carlos Korea's numbers are, and it's a

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Speaker 1: reminder that doing that at shortstop makes him a thirty

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Speaker 1: mil plus player. So Carlos Korea is back. Royce Lewis

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00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: is awesome. Trev was right in my head. I want

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Speaker 1: to fight it. The kid hasn't played a lot, he's electric,

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Speaker 1: He's a one to one. Plays like it. I guess

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Speaker 1: my question marks here would be it's a rental of Alonso,

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Speaker 1: So what are you gonna really give up. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if Twins fans be hurt by that package.

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00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: You know, Larnak and kirol Off have just been the

446
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: same player in my head for the past three years.

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Speaker 1: Now one gets called up, he has a hot two weeks, Hey,

448
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: you can play some corner outfield in first base. Right,

449
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: they go ice cold, they need room for another body,

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Speaker 1: they get sent down, and like they are just feels

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Speaker 1: like the same cycle. So if the Mets get a

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Speaker 1: chance to take a run a guy out like that

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Speaker 1: every day, maybe it clicks, Maybe they get that body

454
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Speaker 1: can be worthwhile. I guess the question for me is

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Speaker 1: lineup balance wise, and where's Minnesota's money at? Like, we

456
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Speaker 1: know that the Mets are willing to eat money. The

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Speaker 1: Mets or the Twins seem to not want to spend money.

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Speaker 1: So if the Mets are willing to eat it, well,

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Speaker 1: now a free ped Alonzo, Now you've got to pay

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Speaker 1: for that, because there's not gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 1: ped Alonzo type power on the market. And then I

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Speaker 1: guess it would just be Okay, let's say Correa and

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Speaker 1: Lewis they're locked in as some sort of good whatever

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Speaker 1: scale you want to put them on. If you think

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Speaker 1: Royce is amazing, maybe you're right. If you think he's okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe you're right. Correa is a level of good to great.

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Speaker 1: We're righty again that I don't know Correa, Lewis and

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Speaker 1: Pete Alonso, sure that's tough, but I don't know. Let's

469
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Speaker 1: say they got matched up against the Seattle Mariners like

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Speaker 1: I think Castillo, Gilbert Wu Miller Kirby. I think they're

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Speaker 1: all licking their chops like I after seeing and I

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Speaker 1: know Juan Soto shouldn't be all of it. But also

473
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Speaker 1: Alex Verdugo added to the Yankees balance matters that I

474
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Speaker 1: don't know what Willie Castro is gonna be by the

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Speaker 1: end of the season. I know he's been really solid

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Speaker 1: contributor for them, a great utility piece. Right now, it

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Speaker 1: is Trevor Larnak in their two hole. I just don't

478
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Speaker 1: know what you're getting out of him. I would like

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Speaker 1: it a lot more if the Twins lineup looks something

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Speaker 1: like Royce Lewis, impact lefty switch hitter, Carlos Correa, or

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Speaker 1: maybe you could slide that down and put a leadoff

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Speaker 1: hitter up there. But I don't know if you have Royce, Lewis,

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Speaker 1: Correa and Alonso. That feels like three guys that have

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Speaker 1: to hit back to back. Sure you can slide up

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Speaker 1: a Max Kepler, but who are you pushing down Pete

486
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Speaker 1: Alonso hitting sixth when he could be the best hitter

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Speaker 1: in your lineup. Petere Alonso fits everywhere. I got in

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Speaker 1: trouble on this on Twitter last week because I said

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Speaker 1: the Yankees didn't need Pete Alonso. They don't. They'd love

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Speaker 1: to have them. And so with the Minnesota Twins that

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Speaker 1: you figure it out, but I'd love to see them.

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Speaker 1: I guess these have been my last two trades. Now

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Speaker 1: get something a little more balanced, Thank God. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if and I don't. I don't think Ryan McMahon would

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Speaker 1: be a difference maker for them like Alonso could be.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not rolling it out and I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: interested to see if the Mets will actually do it,

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Speaker 1: because that's a Lonso's been there guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's weird value stuff for the Mets because it's

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Speaker 2: like rental first base, like first base DH only options rental?

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna really beat out what you're gonna get

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Speaker 2: from the qualifying offer?

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Speaker 1: Were you to lose him, right, Are you really gonna.

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Speaker 2: Beat that by enough for the optics of trading away

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Speaker 2: Alonso to be worth it? Are they themselves trying to

506
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Speaker 2: hold on to him? And if you even if you were, like, well,

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Speaker 2: I guess trade and go back. If you're traded, you're

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Speaker 2: not eligible for the qualifying offer, so.

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Speaker 1: That's out of it.

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Speaker 2: But like I I in my head, I don't have

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Speaker 2: them trading him. Yeah, it's weird, just value equations there.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be one of the biggest stories of the deadline.

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00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: It was half a story at last deadline, but now

514
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Speaker 1: it's actually happening and we will see. I they certainly could,

515
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Speaker 1: but they certainly could, and they'd have a great shot

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Speaker 1: at re signing him, Like you know, if they threw

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Speaker 1: the most money at Pete, I don't think he would

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Speaker 1: do like I'm not coming back. I think if I

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Speaker 1: think he really loves it there, any player would be

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Speaker 1: extremely open to it. It's Pelonzo, so I could see

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Speaker 1: him getting traded. I just feel like with the money involved,

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Speaker 1: which the Mets are willing to pick up the tab,

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Speaker 1: but then you got to pay more in capital. I

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Speaker 1: think there's gonna be other teams more in on Alonso

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Speaker 1: than the Twinkies. This all sets up where America's Jim Bowden.

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Speaker 1: You want to talk about writing an article, You want

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Speaker 1: to talk about getting the Wake and J crew to

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Speaker 1: talk about it. You open up your article with this

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Speaker 1: Dodgers click Don Acchoir click, Luis Robert Yes, Robert Garrett

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Speaker 1: Crochet click yes. And Michael fopex So that the two

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Speaker 1: talented lefty righty arms that we thought would become an

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Speaker 1: impact combo for the White Sox there and there along

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Speaker 1: with a guy that was tabbed the Cuban Mike Trout

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Speaker 1: for a little bit. That's a big package. So what

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Speaker 1: are the Dodgers throwing Nick Frosso, Justin, Rob Leeski, Kyle Hurt,

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Speaker 1: Peyton Martin Dalton Rushing, Andy Pahez, and Emil Morales. Seven

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Speaker 1: prospects for three ball players? Jim, I love it. Just

538
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: need the Dodgers to answer the phone. His first sentences.

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00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: This would be an industry shocker, A ten player trade,

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00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: sure would. So let's see, we're swapping out Pahez, who

541
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Speaker 1: replaced James Outman earlier this year as a young center fielder.

542
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: So okay, Lou Bob, you're in. Why not sure Garrett

543
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: Crochet has just been amazing this year that they would

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Speaker 1: probably throw him in the rotation. If you're the Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: you kind of have a valuable asset through twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: Copex through twenty twenty five, Robert through twenty twenty seven.

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00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: So you've bolstered your core with three pitchers. All you

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Speaker 1: have to do is give up the farm. Hey game

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00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: recognized game, Jim, I see you. No though, the Dodgers.

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00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: The Dodgers are gonna buy, and I could see them

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Speaker 1: getting one big piece. And maybe this is maybe I'm off,

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00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: because the Dodgers also did that the famous trade turner

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Speaker 1: Max Sure's are trade which man, they paid in some

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00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: capital for that, and it's not like they're getting killed

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00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: on the back end of that. I know they don't

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Speaker 1: have Trey or Max anymore. Our guy Josiah Grae had

557
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: been good, got hurt, Hebert Ruiz has hit a little bit.

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00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: Can't throw runners out that if you're trading seven prospects

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00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: to the White Sox. Some Kyle Hurt, Frasso Pahez have

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00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: some familiarity with these guys. Emil Morales, the seventeen year

561
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: old shortstop. I haven't scouted him yet. But that's what

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Speaker 1: these next sixty minutes are for. No, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's the easy answer to always turn down

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Speaker 1: the blockbuster. I just don't see the Dodgers thinking they

565
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: need to cash in this many chips for that many

566
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: Like we looked at their injured rotation and it was

567
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: still a big league rotation. And this is before Kershaw

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Speaker 1: comes back. I think they had someone else on the

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Speaker 1: wire to return. Jesus, they have so many pitchers hurt

570
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: so many. You don't know how long the Almamoto absence

571
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Speaker 1: will be. I'm sure they'll take their time.

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Speaker 2: But this specific trade would be on mlb dot com

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Speaker 2: prospect rankings getting up there one, three, five, nine, fourteen,

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Speaker 2: and eighteenth prospects.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess, And maybe this is me being

576
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: blinded by the new world of baseball, but doing that

577
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: trade doesn't promise the Dodgers anything. It's just kind of fun.

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00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: They're still good, Like, obviously you get better. You've just

579
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Speaker 1: added two talented pitchers and one of the most talented

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Speaker 1: outfielders in baseball, but you're already does change? Would that

581
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: change how you feel about the Dodgers? It has to,

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Speaker 1: because otherwise then nobody would trade. It has to So

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Speaker 1: I you know, Garek Crochet has been leading the ale

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Speaker 1: and strikeouts, he's relieved before. If they get to the post,

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Speaker 1: guess the bigger I guess you could talk me into

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Speaker 1: any one of those single players, Like if they want

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00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: to add Crochet for a couple of years, sure, if

588
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: they want to try to tap into Coopex, someone's going

589
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: to or Luis Robert, like Mookie just got hurt in

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00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: the hand. Their lineup's been thin. But I don't see

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00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: the Dodgers emptying out layers and layers of prospects first,

592
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: not essentially one year of run, but they also have

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Speaker 1: other bodies that are coming back next year, like Dustin

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00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: May at some point will pitch again. Em It shean.

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00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: Let's see Yamamoto's timeline, Gonsolin. So like, I don't know.

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00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: I maybe I'm just overwhelmed. Maybe it's soft, Maybe it's

597
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: why I'm not America's GM and Jim Bowden is. But

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00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: what a way to kick off that article that I

599
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: had to save it for the end here?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: I guess if you again, I'll ask the comments and

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Speaker 1: I'll dig through. The next episode might be a foolish one.

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00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: We'll see, let me know, let me know where the

604
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: fits are. Fetti as the value pitcher. Is your team?

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Speaker 1: Your team begging for something like that? God, I please

606
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: know more White Sox blockbusters and look, if you're.

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Speaker 2: White Sox. I feel like they would I see any

608
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: given combination of guys, But like, wouldn't they try to

609
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: get make this as many different trades as possible to

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Speaker 2: try to replenish.

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Speaker 1: And all that.

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00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: Now, maybe the White Sox just don't have the benefit

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Speaker 2: of the doubt as far as making the A plus

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Speaker 2: set of moves.

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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what's an A plus set of moves.

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Speaker 1: Waken Jake is a production of Dan Patrick Productions, John

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Speaker 1: Boy Median, Workhouse Media. We'll see you guys back Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Oh