1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Happy New Year to you. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: We got all new content coming to you next week 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: and every week after that. In the meantime, enjoy this 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: classic wrestling with friends on sanctioned Thursday. 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Wrestling with Freddy. I'm your humble host today, 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: especially your humble host. And you'll find out why because 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: I have a very special guest, someone who this would 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: have never happened had we not had a mutual friend. 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: So let's start the show. Welcome to Wrestling with Freddy. 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: Wow stepping up to the mic, the host of Wrestling 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: with Freddie, Freddie Price Tune, former WWE champion miss A 12 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: j Pendex, Welcome to the show. How are you? Holy crap, 13 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: I haven't seen you in forever. What the hell's going on? 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thank you for having me. 15 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 4: It's a strange way the universes has brought us together again. 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 4: I don't know, do you remember at all? Like I 17 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 4: was a baby, when you. 18 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: Were you were a baby. So so let me break 19 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: this down. I did a movie for Netflix with Amy Garcia, 20 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: who people might know from Lucifer, and you should all 21 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: bow down in her presence whenever you meet her. Don't 22 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: even shake her hand, just bow because she is. She 23 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: didn't just earn my respect, man, that girl earned my love. 24 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: Like if she was ever in trouble, I would get 25 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: her a jet to a non extradition country and one 26 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: hundred grand in less than an hour. Like that's that's 27 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: how how dog I would roll for her. So she 28 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: mentioned to me randomly that her writing partner used to wrestle, 29 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: and I went, wait, who's your so I used to 30 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: work there, who's your writing partner? And she said your name? 31 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: And my jaw hit the floor because I still have 32 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: this memory in my head. I don't know why, but 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: you came to like what was like an acting workshop 34 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: that we would do where all the wrestlers would take 35 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: scenes or do acting exercises, and you did one about 36 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: Pokemon with this dude that's wrestling in Japan now, and 37 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: I remember being like, what the hell, what the hell 38 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: is the Pokemon? Like I didn't know what I didn't 39 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: know what it was. So I was sitting there trying 40 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: to like analyze it, and the whole time, like when 41 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: you were done, I think I asked Cardona. I was like, hey, 42 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: what what the hell is a Pokemon? And he was 43 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: like what's the matter with you? And I was like, oh, 44 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: and then it all made sense. But do you remember 45 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: this at all? Or am I crazy? 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's coming back to me. 47 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm telling you you were so I don't know how 48 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: old you were when they brought you up. How old 49 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: were you? 50 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: I think? I like, I don't know. 51 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 4: I mean I think I got signed when I was 52 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 4: like twenty one or something like that. 53 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: It looked like you were seventeen. I mean it looked 54 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: like it was illegal for you to work there because 55 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: of child labor laws. It was insane. 56 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely. I remember. 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 4: A big issue was that, like, no one would believe 58 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 4: I was a woman, and so throw all of the 59 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 4: makeup you can onto the. 60 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: Well. You pulled like this evil kind of smile and 61 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: this evil little you would narrow your eyes a bit, 62 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: and that made you look much more grown up. It 63 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: was a real smart move that you did. But you 64 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: kind of had a meteoric rise, do you. I mean 65 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: it just from I mean, you're there and they're trying 66 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: to figure out what to do. But once they did, 67 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: and I know the person very well who came up 68 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: with your story. He wasn't on the road, but he 69 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: conceptualized it in the office, but once it was that 70 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: one episode you just kind of like took off. How 71 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: do you process that at twenty two? I'll put it 72 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: to you this way. My Pops was twenty two. He 73 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: couldn't handle it, and he literally like turned a drugs 74 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: and ended up killing himself. Because at twenty two, early twenties, 75 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: that's a ton to deal with, and they put a 76 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: rocket ship underneath you and just launched you off. Talk 77 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: to me about how you felt there and all that. Gosh. 78 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it was really helpful that I 79 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 4: had grown up so rough and I survived so much 80 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 4: before I ever got there, that anything that happened was 81 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: like sprinkles on top of a Sunday of just surviving life. 82 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: And so I really always. 83 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 4: Took everything with a grain of salt and realized that 84 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: it could be, you know, living on the street, I 85 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 4: could be dead from all the decisions I've made before. 86 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 4: Wrestling really saved my life. You know, I tell my 87 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 4: story a lot, but the cliff Notes version. As I 88 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 4: grew up insanely poor, I was homeless for most of 89 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: my childhood, was lucky to make it out alive, and 90 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 4: wrestling and storytelling and just living in these fantasy world 91 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 4: saved my life. 92 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: So I always kind of had. 93 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 4: That perspective that this was an opportunity that I was 94 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 4: just gonna have fun with. 95 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 3: And I really think it is one hundred percent. 96 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: Well I say one hundred percent, but I have to 97 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 4: give myself a little bit of credit. 98 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: So let me. 99 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 4: Say a lot of the credit goes to the fans, 100 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 4: because it just spoke to me being successful, spoke to 101 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 4: what they wanted to see, and they really were fighting 102 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: for this movement of just someone on screen that represented them. 103 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: And I was the first. 104 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 4: That really was not this picture perfect, you know, supermodel, 105 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 4: and I wasn't a big, strong warrior either. I was 106 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: just like a scrappy little mouse that looked like she 107 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: was twelve and. 108 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: Was THEMB was a fan that snuck in. 109 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 4: And I think just that idea of feeling represented and seen, 110 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 4: I mean, that's what made me want to tell stories, 111 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 4: and that what's what made me want to wrestle in 112 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: the first place. That resonated with it with this generation 113 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: of fans, and so they are love of me and 114 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 4: championing me and my journey kept me in those storylines, 115 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 4: and so I owe them so much of. 116 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: The Gay Jay. It's funny because and you talk about 117 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: growing up and how rough it was in your book. 118 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: What's the name of your book again. 119 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 3: It's called Crazy is my Superpower? 120 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: Please go to Amazon or wherever you buy your books 121 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: and look that up and you can learn exactly what 122 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: this woman went through as a child. You know, it's 123 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: weird because you still look so young, but you are 124 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: an old soul, and kids that have to grow up 125 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: more quickly tend to go back and embrace that childhood 126 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: when they get older and start to have success. My 127 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: friend McCaulay is one who never had a childhood right. 128 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: He was a working professional from age birth till he 129 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: finally stopped, and so he never got to do any 130 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: of that stuff that you got to do as a 131 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: kid and then as an adult and went into that. 132 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: So when you have that kind and I see you 133 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: doing that now. But what I wanted to get to 134 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: is you have this old soul because when you talk 135 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: about why you loved it, I've heard guys like Terry 136 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 1: Funk say that almost word for word what you just said, 137 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: and I know you're not like a Terry Funk historian 138 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: and taking a quote and like mishmashing it into your own. 139 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: That's just you talking. But you have this very sort 140 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: of old school and I guess it is from growing up. 141 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: But you've been able to apply discipline in a way 142 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: that very few artists can, because most artists are right 143 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: brained and they reject everything the left brain has to offer, 144 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: which is order out of chaos. And I'm guilty of that, 145 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: and a lot of artists are. And I know a 146 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: ton of people want us to talk wrestling, but you 147 00:07:54,480 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: made this transition from professional wrestling into writing a New 148 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: York Times bestseller and then transition from that into the 149 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: art of screenwriting, which is incredibly difficult. Everyone's written a script, 150 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: but none of them are good. Right. There's only a 151 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 1: small handful that can impact the right person that says 152 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: yes in order to get it made. And now you've 153 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: done that. I don't think another wrestler has ever done that. 154 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if they've wanted to. But you've now 155 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: transitioned into Hollywood and screenwriting. You have a movie that 156 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: recently wrapped. Do you want to talk about that or 157 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: I just get off on the process. So whatever you 158 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: want to talk about is fine with me. But this 159 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: is an incredibly impressive accomplishment, whether you were coming from 160 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: wrestling or not, and you're still having to apply a 161 00:08:48,679 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: similar but completely different discipline to it. So I'll shut 162 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: up and just let you talk about whatever you want 163 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: to talk about this this movie which I've seen like 164 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: video rehearsals of the stunt fights and stuff, and that 165 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: was so sick. But anyway, I'm going to shut up. 166 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: Not go ahead. 167 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: I did. I think you're right. It is so the 168 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: same kind of discipline, right. 169 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 4: I think what really helped me was the just the 170 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 4: perspective of like I was grateful to have food in. 171 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 3: My fridge, Like that was my baseline. 172 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: If I could just make have a career and I 173 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 4: could feed myself and you know, send money to my parents, 174 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: Like life was good. 175 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: That's all I needed. 176 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: And I felt such a like end of a chapter 177 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 4: when when that when that chapter ended, it felt like 178 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 4: I was so whole. And what I knew I could 179 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 4: take into the next chapter was these fans and that 180 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 4: we really had this mission of representation and I just 181 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 4: needed to figure out what that was. 182 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: And so the book was the first try I wrote. 183 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 4: I wrote crazy is my superpower, and I just wanted 184 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 4: to get my story out there because I had felt 185 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 4: that I hadn't really told people where it came from 186 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 4: and how hard I struggled and my mental health journey, 187 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 4: and I wanted to be really transparent about that because 188 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 4: these people had supported me for so long. 189 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: And what I noticed from that was that these these these. 190 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 4: Fans really just believed in seeing a different perspective and 191 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 4: seeing a different kind of hero in the world. You know, 192 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 4: when I was growing up, I did not see women 193 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: who looked like me on TV. I never saw anyone 194 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 4: the last name Mendez. I never you know, she had 195 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 4: brown hair. I could be like, okay, close enough, by. 196 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: The way, there's still only maybe two, but we're. 197 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 4: Trying, and so like, you know, to me at there 198 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 4: was a point when I realized, oh, if I want 199 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 4: to see characters like me on TV, I'm just going 200 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 4: to have to be that character. 201 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 3: And that was wrestling, and. 202 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 4: Then after that it was Okay, it's not just good enough, 203 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: it's just if it's just me, I need to create 204 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 4: more characters for the next generation. And so that's how 205 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 4: I started writing. I had gone to six months of 206 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 4: film school at NYU. 207 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: That's good though. 208 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got some experience, I couldn't afford it, but 209 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 4: I started wrestling when that didn't work out. So everything 210 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 4: kind of felt really serendipitous, and I took this like 211 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 4: circuitous route to get back into writing, and it was 212 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 4: just all about like representing this, this type of this 213 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: just unseen, underrepresented character. I started in comics and with 214 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 4: Amy we did Glow and we did Dungeons and Dragons 215 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: and Wonder Woman, and then we really just started to 216 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 4: dabble in writing for television and screenwriting. First thing I 217 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 4: did was I entered I started at the bottom, like 218 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 4: going from wrestling and being like, oh, I'm this champion liken'. 219 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 4: I had such a perspective of like everywhere I go, 220 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 4: I need to like hustle and just like ground and 221 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: like I have no ego, and like that has been 222 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 4: what really served me in wrestling. I knew I had 223 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 4: to start from the bottom of the barrel. I started 224 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 4: wrestling for like I would get paid in like hot 225 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 4: dogs and like bus fare and then and I knew 226 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 4: I had no ego about it. I was just going 227 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 4: to like work my way to the top. And so 228 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 4: when I started writing, it was the same thing. I 229 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: entered a writing competition and and won and I got 230 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: on the Blacklist Latin XTV list, and like that opened 231 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 4: the door and that is what introduced me to a 232 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 4: lot of people, and I started taking meetings and. 233 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: That's been a really productive tool for screenwriters. I know 234 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: a couple other writers who have literally gotten careers because 235 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: of that tool. 236 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you. 237 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 4: Know what, even like the exposure was amazing, but there's 238 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: also a thing where like they people just give you 239 00:12:55,280 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 4: feedback if you ask through that through the Blacklist, and 240 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 4: so just like even every meeting, people give me feedback 241 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 4: and what I can make it better, how I can 242 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 4: make the script better, or what they connected to it. 243 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 4: I really saw that there was like a space that 244 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: just needed to be filled, and so Amy and I 245 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 4: just started this production company and started taking open writing, 246 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 4: open writing assignments, and that's how we ended up writing 247 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 4: Blade of the forty seven ronin. 248 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: Which is going to be on Netflix next year. 249 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: That's right, it is. You know. 250 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: It was this idea for. 251 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: A project that they had and Amy and I were 252 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 4: everything we do, it's like just just go balls the wall, 253 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: do it one hundred percent your vision, and it's either 254 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 4: going to work or you're going to fail miserably, but 255 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 4: at least you don't you know, you didn't you know, 256 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 4: you left everything up all the field. And that's what 257 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: was with wrestling, like I'm either going to get fired 258 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 4: by playing this little like nerd chick tomboy or it's 259 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 4: going to work. 260 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 3: And it worked. 261 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: So the same thing kind of worked with writing, and 262 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: we pitched this all female version of what they wanted 263 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 4: to do where it's like, no, it's all about the women, 264 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 4: like they're the stars. It's inclusive, it's very diverse, and 265 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: you know, we were scared, like, okay. 266 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: That was okay. 267 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: By the way, there's actually like Japanese history to support that, 268 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of like the women and the farms 269 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: trained with the spear to learn how to fight, and 270 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: they could hide the spears as like a garden tool, 271 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: and that was how they were able to you know, 272 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: train their weapons and keep them hidden in plain sight. 273 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: So there's actually like evidence of this in existence too, 274 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: which I love. And then so it's actually like it's 275 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: even though it's a fantasy, fantastic movie and there's powers 276 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: and people are doing things with swords that with a 277 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: wire is a lot easier to do, it still has 278 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: like that one route, that one seed of truth, which 279 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: all those movies kind of need. 280 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely the Ona Bugeisha, Like they are fascinating, and 281 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 4: so we really wanted to like lean into that through 282 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 4: that the wall and actually worked, and these wonderful producers 283 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 4: and studio gave us a chance and gave us our 284 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 4: first shot. 285 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: You know. 286 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 4: It just kind of took off from there, and and 287 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 4: it's really interesting how like one thing always leads to 288 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 4: the next, you know, like a certain meeting you need 289 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 4: a writing sample of an hour long drama, and it's like, 290 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 4: we don't have it. Let's let's get it done in 291 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 4: a month. Done, And all of a sudden, we're now 292 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 4: in the you know, in the race for hour long 293 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,119 Speaker 4: dramas and and so stuff is just kind of snowballed 294 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: in a really wonderful way. 295 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: And we just got hired for our second feature. Yeah. 296 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: So it's like and. 297 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: We're developed wait can you can you can you mention 298 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: it yet or is it too early? 299 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: I can't yet. 300 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 4: I'll tell you later, okay, Yeah, And we're developing on 301 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: two TV shows. 302 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: And so, oh my gosh, man, that's so insanely great. 303 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 4: It's the coolest thing. It's the coolest thing in the world. 304 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 4: And I think it only works because I I don't know. 305 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: I know that like nothing can kill me. Like I've 306 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 4: lived on the street, I feel like starved. I know 307 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 4: I can survive that. And so if I have to 308 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 4: go back to it, I going back to it. 309 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: So now just have to just like burn the boat's 310 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: mentality though it's so hardcore, you know what I mean, 311 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: It's like there is no I remember they asked Sugar 312 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: Ray Leonard back in the in the seventies, he was 313 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: a boxing world champion, and they said, uh, what do 314 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: you plan on doing if you lose this fight? Like 315 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: what's next for you? And He's just like, I don't. 316 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: That's not an option, Like I never even thought about 317 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: that until you just said it, Like I don't. I 318 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: don't train to lose, man, I trained to win. And 319 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: you just kind of push your cards all in or 320 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: your chips all in, and you're like, look, if you 321 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: think you have a better hand, cool, but I'm not 322 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: telling you my cards until you pay or you fold. 323 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: And like you said, you went in with a nerd 324 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: gimmick that you're just like, if it's I got two seven, 325 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: if they call I'm in big trouble. But if they fold, 326 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm good. And they did. They blinked and you didn't, 327 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: and it helped get that character over. Apparently it's helped 328 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: you guys. You d amy kick serious ass. And I 329 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: want to segue you talking television and we're talking wrestling. 330 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: So I have to babble a little bit again to 331 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: get into this because where I failed, you have succeeded. 332 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: And I really want to talk to you more about 333 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: this because I just want to pick your brain and 334 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: get schooled. But everyone else should hear too. So about 335 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: a year ago, I guess this was during the pandemic, 336 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: a couple of friends approached me and talked to me 337 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: about Wow, Women of Wrestling, and they said, hey, man, 338 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: would you be interested in trying to help get this 339 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: made on TV in one way shape or for me 340 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: write at EPT whatever, And I said, yeah, I love 341 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: wrestling and I love women's wrestling. And I said I 342 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: think women's wrestling is really at a high point right 343 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: now and they should get an opportunity. So I talked 344 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: with David McClain and he and I didn't exactly click, 345 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: but we had respect for one another, but we certainly 346 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: didn't click and Genie Buss, owner of the Lakers, Go Lakers. 347 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: We went to what I knew to be friendly executives, 348 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: where I knew the executives, where I knew they would 349 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: give the idea a chance. And it was a brick wall, 350 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: another brick wall, and another brick wall, and there might 351 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: have been a fourth brick wall in there, I don't remember. 352 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: I hit my head so many times. I could not 353 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: get this idea over to a single executive forget you know, 354 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: you know, I got one in the room, but it 355 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: was a room of three. I couldn't get it over 356 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: to anyone. And I'm just like randomly, you know, checking 357 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: out the news. Da da da da dah, and then 358 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: I just see your name and I see wow, and 359 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: I go, oh my god, they're going to be on TV. 360 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: Oh my god, they're going to be on TV. And 361 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: I filipped out in the best possible way. So could 362 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: you please talk. I have no ego about this. I 363 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: just want as many wrestlers as possible to have as 364 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: many opportunities he's on television as humanly possible. So that's 365 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: my stake in this game, right, So how did you come? 366 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: I guess maybe the glow connection. But what was the 367 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: process of getting the Viacom deal and forget everyone else listening, 368 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: this is just you and me school me up. 369 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 4: I've got to give all that credit to Jeanie and David. 370 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 4: I was brought on at the end of that, so 371 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 4: they really did all the hustling and figured out the 372 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 4: right home. 373 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: She's an amazing woman, isn't she. 374 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: God She's a force of nature and. 375 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, she is. 376 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: What I've understood is that she you know, those brick 377 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 4: walls continued, and she just really believed in this. And 378 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 4: what I so appreciate about her vision is that she 379 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 4: wants it to be a family friendly show that like 380 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 4: everyone can sit down and watch it on Saturday morning. 381 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 4: And that is such an old school vibe that I 382 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 4: connected to because you're. 383 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: An old sawyer, Terry Funk, You're the. 384 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 4: I just you know, I remember being really little and 385 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: the only posters they had of the female wrestlers were 386 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 4: in bikinis and like the magazines, and I was like, guy, 387 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 4: I'm putting a bikini. 388 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 3: Poster up on my wall. So just the idea of 389 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: like giving a younger generation. 390 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: This that's sort of like wholesome superhero type lean That's. 391 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: What their characters lean into, is that superhero vibe. They 392 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: all kind of have an archetype character, which I really 393 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: really liked as well. Let's talk about Genie for a second, 394 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: because I love talking about how people made it, and 395 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: I love bringing on people that it's so it feels 396 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: so disrespectful to say I'm proud of you, right, that 397 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: just feels disrespectful. I'm so impressed by you and by 398 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: so many of your peers that I've had other wrestlers 399 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: on here. I've had the Miz on here, who just 400 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: I look talk about a force of nature, like like, 401 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: I've had other wrestlers on here. But Jeannie was such 402 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: an interesting person. She wanted she wanted me to make 403 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: a puppet show. Okay, and I love puppets all right, 404 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: Like I loved him. My uncle broke the rainbow connection 405 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: for Kermit the Frog. My uncle's Paul Williams, so like 406 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: I got to play with the first Kermit the Frog. 407 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: I love muppets, and and we had a friend in common, 408 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: and so we were going to come up with it. 409 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: I can talk about it now because it's never going 410 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: to happen. It was called Little Lakers, and it was 411 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: all these like it was like little Kobe, Little Shack, 412 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 1: all these and they all had like attitude. Right, And 413 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: so I was talking to her about Son, I go, so, 414 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: where are you seeing this? Like you just want to 415 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: put on like spectrum or something like that, and she goes, 416 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: you're not thinking big enough. And right when she said that, 417 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: every sentence she said after, I've never forgotten like any 418 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: and I delete things people say to me all the time, 419 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: good advice and bad. But Geenie has this ability to 420 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: think big. Even when you think your idea is too 421 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: big and you're nervous to pitch it, it's like it's 422 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: not big enough. I think you have a woman behind 423 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: you and behind this company that when she commits to something, 424 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: she is committed to it. And she's been involved with 425 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: Wow for a while now, so for her to make 426 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: that commitment with you and to have that trust in you. 427 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: And again I was the wrong fit. You are the 428 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: right fit. I think you have a huge opportunity here 429 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: to bring more wrestling to that. And it's not about competing. 430 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: I hate it's always about competent That's so stupid, man, 431 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: there's so many channels. It should be about opportunity. Right, 432 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: there shouldn't be an Academy award. Actors should be family. 433 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: Like there's no real wrestling award. There's slammis, but those 434 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: aren't real, Like wrestlers are a family. So this should 435 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 1: be you know, it should always be about opportunity. And 436 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: I love that you're working with someone who I she 437 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: has earned respect. It's not about oh, the Lakers of 438 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: seventeen thousand Championship. I don't I love the Lakers, but 439 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: that's not as important. She has earned respect, okay, in 440 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: a world where no one wanted to respect it. She 441 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: was Jerry Buss's daughter. What did she ever work for? 442 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: What did she is? Like Stephanie McMahon, you know, all 443 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: she ever had to be was Vince McMahon's daughter, and 444 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: I'd be like, dude, she saved the Jeff Hardy Championship promo. 445 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: She single handedly saved it. When the power went out, 446 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: ran in and was like excuse my language, and said 447 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: fuck that, we're fixing this. I was already like, I 448 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: don't know what we're gonna do. She's like I do, 449 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: and I mean just steamrolled through man. So it's like 450 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: those are moments where respect is earned. And Jeanie has 451 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: earned that respect, and so when she gives it to 452 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: someone like you and it's not like me, you satn't 453 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: appreciate that. I already know YouTube based on how you 454 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: came up. I just I'm so excited to see what 455 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: your plan is. I mean even beyond creatively, like you 456 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: can eat then improve the work there. You can help 457 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: prevent injuries there, just because you know how to work 458 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: the perfect way, you know what I mean. Like and 459 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: you're the same size as some of those girls too, 460 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So and I love that 461 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: you're out here in La doing it. Can you talk 462 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: about do you guys have a plan on where you're 463 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: gonna shoot yet? What's the plan for you guys? 464 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 3: So we'll actually be shooting pretty soon. I think we're maybe. 465 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: Sixty days out, so it's getting it's getting kind of close. 466 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 4: We're going to be in syndication in the fall of 467 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. Please check wowe dot com for your 468 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 4: local listings. 469 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: I still right, I still have my T shirt. I'll 470 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: rock my T shirt. 471 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 4: It's also on the CW Seed app and the Pluto app. 472 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 3: But you know it's it's really what inspired me to join. 473 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 4: Wow was the idea that it was women behind the 474 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 4: scenes in every capacity and women in front of the 475 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 4: camera and every capacity. And to me, I love wrestling 476 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 4: and I never stopped loving wrestling, and this was like 477 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 4: the perfect way to rejoin the world of wrestling, but 478 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 4: also combine it with what I'm doing now and what 479 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: I have a passion for now. And so I'll be 480 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 4: executive producer alongside Jeanie and David McLean, which is mine. 481 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm so happy, Oh my gosh. 482 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 3: And then I want to talk to her on the phone. 483 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 4: You know, she really just kind of laid it out there, 484 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 4: like what she wants us to be and what the 485 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 4: vision is, and then also left a lot of space 486 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 4: for what I wanted to be or what I could 487 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 4: bring to the table. And I really, yeah, I just 488 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 4: I think that that's the right way to start something. 489 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 4: It's you know, we know that people know what the 490 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 4: product is or they know what it was before, but 491 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 4: this is going to be a new beast and we're 492 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 4: really excited about that, and it's it's it's. 493 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 3: A great group of women. 494 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 4: And I somewhere along the way just kind of got 495 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 4: inspired to say, Okay, I'm also gonna do color commentary. 496 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew I was actually going to 497 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: ask you. I was like, I gotta do something. I can't. 498 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: You got it. You can't. You can't do them like that. 499 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: You can't do the people like that. 500 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 501 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, like wrestling opportunities have popped up 502 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 4: over the years, and I've just never been ready for that. 503 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 4: I'm not sure like physically if that's something that like 504 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 4: is the fires there, but the art. 505 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: Of it it's always been there, you know. 506 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 4: And when I was a fan of the women were 507 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 4: my favorite part of the show, and I would, you know, 508 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 4: skip the guys matches to watch the ladies. 509 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: And so I had such a crush on sensational Sherry, 510 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: oh my god, like everyone else like pulled for Elizabeth 511 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: and I literally was like what what, Oh my god, 512 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: oh god, never no share, Like I was such a 513 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: Sherry Mark. Like when everyone went trist Stratus, I went 514 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: lead A. I was like, oh, oh Dan, I like 515 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: the tougher chicks. I always like tough chicks. Man, I 516 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: married Buffy the Vampires. I like tough chicks, man. 517 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 3: Oh my god. I love that. My husband says the 518 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: same thing about Sherry and Elizabeth. 519 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: It was all about ship because she was she could 520 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: talk to man like and she could really work. She 521 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: could actually like wrestle that WWF didn't really let her wrestle, 522 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: but she was actually really good wrestler before she got there, 523 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: and they just limited what what women can do as 524 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: you had to deal with when you were there. I'm 525 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: sure they said certain moves you weren't allowed to do. 526 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 3: Oh yeah they were. 527 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 4: I mean I talked about in my book a little bit, 528 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 4: but they they you know, it was it was the 529 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 4: time when we had very small windows of matter. 530 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: You are and five minutes and and a minute each 531 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: for your walk in, and so it's really a three 532 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: minute match. Tell the story, hang up, yup, yup. 533 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: And I'm oh my god. 534 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 4: My favorite match ever is when they told us to 535 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: go home and we were like nope, and we just 536 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 4: went like twelve extra minutes. 537 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: And like got in trouble. But then they were like, but. 538 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: It was a good way. It was a good match, 539 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: and I gave you a seat. Sometimes you got to 540 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: just burn the boats. And if you get if you 541 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: take the heat, you take the heat exactly. A lot 542 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: of times someone in a position of power, if you 543 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: know you can do it, and you're willing to take 544 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: that shot and prove them wrong or be proven wrong yourself. 545 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: That's how you get that's how you earn respect, big time, 546 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: big time you are. You are going to absolutely kill it. 547 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: My daughter is twelve years old. She loves women's wrestling. 548 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: I can't wait for her to watch Wow. She already 549 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: watches WWE. She watched she followed Ruby over to AEW 550 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: because she likes Ruby a lot. So I can't wait 551 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: to share your contribution to that product. And yeah, I 552 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: just thank you so much for doing this. I haven't 553 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: seen you in fifteen plus years probably, and you're kicking 554 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: so much ass and it's so awesome. And I love you, 555 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: Amy Garcia for making this happen. And yeah, I'll get 556 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: you a jet and a non extradition country too, AJ. 557 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: So if you and your man ever need to, you know, 558 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: rob a bank and get away with it, just call 559 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: me up. 560 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: I really appreciate that. 561 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, And when I call you back those words up 562 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 4: you know. 563 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I just implicated myself. So 564 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: I may have to go to an non extradition as well, 565 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: but you know, we'll party. 566 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. I appreciate this has been amazing. It's 567 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 3: so cool to. 568 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 4: See you still loving wrestling, and I just you were 569 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 4: such a huge part of making us feel comfortable when 570 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: I just start on the road, and you were a 571 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 4: friendly face and you were kind and really gave us a. 572 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 3: To say thank you for that. 573 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it needed a little balanced that company. I'm all 574 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: for a tough love, but I'm like y'all and I 575 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: never heard about Bruce Lee like you got to have 576 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of both. Then, Thank you, Thank you 577 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: so much. Thank you everyone for listening. Follow this woman 578 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: wherever she goes. She has the right focus, she has 579 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: the right imagination, and she's an absolute steamroller, the smallest 580 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: steamroller on earth. But it's still it could still squashing. 581 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: Thank you everybody. This has been a production of Iheart'smichael 582 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: Tura podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the 583 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your 584 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: favorite shows.