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Speaker 5: Their want to do everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast from the Action Network

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Speaker 2: and Fantasy Labs.

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Speaker 5: On your host, Chris Raybond.

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Speaker 2: This is your NFL week gate Player Projections episode, and

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Speaker 2: as always, I am joined by one of the most

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Speaker 2: accurate Fantasy football rankers and projectors in the game, odds

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Speaker 2: maker Sean Kerner.

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Speaker 5: Sean, how's it going?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Pretty good? Uh?

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Speaker 4: You know, projecting initial Week eight has been nuts. There

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Speaker 4: has been so many big name injuries. A few cluster

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Speaker 4: situations we'll get to, but I feel like injuries, especially

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Speaker 4: to key players this year is higher than normal.

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Speaker 1: Am I crazy for thinking that?

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Speaker 5: No, there's been some some bad injuries.

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Speaker 2: You know, they have cut down in the kickoff injury,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, last week is rough, especially

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Speaker 2: but who knows. All right, So we are, as usual

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Speaker 2: on the pod, going to go quarterback, running back, wide receiver,

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Speaker 2: off with the quarterback position. Oh before we do, just

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Speaker 2: and more fantasywabs dot com. All Right, Quarterback Top five

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Speaker 2: Week eight. Who you got Sean all right, I got

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Speaker 2: hold on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm assuming Jayden Daniels is out, Lamar Jackson, Jordan

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Speaker 4: Love number two, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, and Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I got Jackson, Allen Love Hurts and then I

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Speaker 2: have Stroud and Burrow tied. I think I have Stroud

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Speaker 2: so yeah, not really scared of them the matchup. But

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Speaker 2: who are you high on at quarterback this week?

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Speaker 1: Bonex?

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Speaker 4: I already mentioned in the Waiver Wire pod he's my

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Speaker 4: top streamer if Sam Darnold isn't available, but he opens

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Speaker 4: He's rushed for over sixty yards and back to back games.

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Speaker 4: I always knew he had you know, rushing upside, but

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Speaker 4: it's been even better than I thought, so his touchdown

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love next he's actually my QB eight.

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Speaker 5: With this kind of rushing upside. I'm hiring c J. Stroud.

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Speaker 2: I do trust Stroud in this spot. Still has Tank Digs,

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Speaker 2: So I have CJ. Stroud as a top six KB option.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could, I could see that I have him.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, So that's I'm going to say no.

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Speaker 5: Running back top five for week eight?

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Speaker 4: You got huh Brins Hall, Joe Mixon, Kyen Williams, JK.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 5: We've been pouring out.

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Speaker 1: At back?

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Speaker 4: JK Dobbins, he's my running back four ECRs RB twenty two.

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Speaker 1: So this is just a perfect spot for JK. Dobbins.

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Speaker 4: And then for Shaud White, I mean, this guy I

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Speaker 4: But you know, Bucky Irving out playing him. I still

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Speaker 4: He's going to be the starting running back and he's

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Speaker 4: So I think he's back in that you know, RB

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, fade the Tampa offense at your

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Speaker 2: I think I think Dobbins is just low because he,

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Speaker 5: Cut some balls though, which was which was good to see.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think he's still a top fifteen ish

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Speaker 4: Who knows if it'll end as a matter of before,

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Speaker 2: Speaking of guys who were high in the row projections

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Speaker 2: Chust has already been ruled out for Week eight, so

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Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see defense running and that's what

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Speaker 2: they're going to kind of rely on divisional matchup there

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Speaker 2: And these are Kareem Hunts touches and yards and touchdowns

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Speaker 5: So I think he's pretty entrenched here.

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Speaker 2: I know with Steele, got a couple of carries here

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Speaker 2: With pre Ryan Staying is the hurry up, passed down

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Speaker 2: I think hunts the guy you want. And then James Connor.

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Speaker 2: He's the RB twenty four in consensus at Fantasy Pros

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Speaker 2: right as we record this m RB fifteen. I was

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Speaker 2: And you know, Connor still is kind of the engine

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Speaker 5: I think he took a bit. I think tier tartlet landon.

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Speaker 2: So another guy, I think fade at your at your

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Speaker 5: Who are you low on Sean Kerner heading into weekend?

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Speaker 4: At running back James Cook, he's my RB twenty one

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Speaker 4: James Cook's ceiling, especially since he hasn't been involved in

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Speaker 2: But yeah, don't don't love it for for James Cook,

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Speaker 2: But we've seen Buffalo roll with who was it? Was

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Speaker 2: one of those situations where he's like, all right, only

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Speaker 4: Well, our boy Nick Chubb made his season debut last week,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not over five anymore, right, but four point

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Speaker 2: forty eight. Ef we're a little bit so I'll go

435
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 2: over there. But that's a good line, I know, mid forties.

436
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of yeah that we have to

437
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 2: expect for now.

438
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: Right now.

439
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 4: I think it's prop's going to be there. This Ravens

440
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 4: run defense has been really good this year. Chase Brown

441
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 4: was the only running back that had a rush for

442
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 4: ten more yards against them all year, but then they

443
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 4: had to face Sean Tucker last night, so that that

444
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 4: was their second running back that was able to get

445
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 4: an explosive carry against them, So maybe a nick tub

446
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 4: will be the third.

447
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Speaker 1: We'll see.

448
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: He looked fine, didn't No, I don't really look bat

449
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Speaker 2: Week eight. Who we got in the top five?

473
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Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Almon Ross Saint Brown, Stefan Diggs,

474
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 4: and Tyreek Hill.

475
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to my top five.

476
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 2: Ooh nice, I have Justin Jefferson, am ROSSA Brown, number two,

477
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, Ceedee Lamb A J.

478
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 5: Brown.

479
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: So A J.

480
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 5: Brown's best for me, Tyreek's back for you? Who are

481
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 5: you highling?

482
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 4: George Pickens is my wide receiver eleven. You know I

483
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 4: figured he would benefit with Russell Wilson under center. I

484
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 4: mean he tends to either bomb it or dump it

485
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 4: off to his running backs. And you know, Pickens was

486
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 4: the player that actually leaked that Wilson will be starting.

487
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 4: He said he was getting some extra reps with them. Yeah,

488
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 4: after practice since he was making his first start. But

489
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 4: it just goes to Pickens is putting in the work

490
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 4: and I think Tomlin rewarded him with his season high

491
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 4: rout zone rate at ninety four percent. You know, I

492
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 4: just think this is a good fit. As long as

493
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 4: Wilson's under center, Pickens gets a huge boost. Now this

494
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 4: could be, you know, a more run heavy game script

495
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 4: against the Giants, but Pickens is a type of receiver

496
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 4: he doesn't need a ton of volume. He's still going

497
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 4: to get those explosive downfield targets. And he scored his

498
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 4: first touchdown of the season with Wilson, So just we

499
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 4: could see more pass volume anyway because Wilson's not going

500
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 4: to scramble as much as fields. So you know, the

501
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 4: needle's pointing out for Pickens as long as Wilson's under center.

502
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: Never thought i'd say that, but that's where we are.

503
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 4: Jaylen McMillan, I've already mentioned him on our waiver pod,

504
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 4: but I think he's the most likely wide receiver to

505
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 4: be the top option with both Chris Godwin and Mike

506
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 4: Evans expected him as time. You know, really him, Palmer

507
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 4: and Sterling Shepherd could kind of cancel each other out,

508
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 4: but I think McMillan has the most upside of the three,

509
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,719
Speaker 4: and I think it's worth men. Just Darnell Mooney opens

510
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 4: the week as my wide receiver twenty. He's just quietly

511
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 4: having a solid season. He's he's much more of a

512
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 4: high floor option than he has been in the past

513
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 4: with the run heavy Bears, but just he has really

514
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 4: solid underlying usage and a good bet for four to

515
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 4: five receptions most weeks now, and he still has that

516
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 4: big play up side. We haven't seen as much, but

517
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 4: it's still there. So he's really settled in his high

518
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 4: end wide receiver three option.

519
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: What was that?

520
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 4: That was like John Brown several years ago. He was

521
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 4: like a deep threat guy and then he was like

522
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 4: every week we were projecting for four to five catches

523
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 4: on the Bills.

524
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 5: It was a similar Yeah, he probably the number one

525
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 5: for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's kind a similar.

526
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: He's not the number one.

527
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: I mean, Drake Lonnon is still playing out of his mind,

528
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 4: but just in this offense, he's really become like a

529
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 4: high floor guy, which we haven't seen before. But he's

530
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 4: been a really steady option in PPR league, and I

531
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 4: think you know the best is still yet to come

532
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 4: with him.

533
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about this on our like in the preseason

534
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: his pause, But I don't think people realize just how

535
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: much this Falcon offense is going to change, going from

536
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith to you know, their current coordinator, Like this

537
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: is just a one to one personnel offense, or even

538
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: the number three, who's Ray mcclod is on the field

539
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: like ninety percent of the time, Moody doesn't pretty much

540
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: doesn't leave the.

541
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 5: Field neither, just London.

542
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: So just a completely different offense from last year when

543
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: guys were shuffling in and out and Moody's been on

544
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 2: the field, Cousin's not scrambling, so just kind of maxes

545
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: out the amount of targets available. So yeah, good, good

546
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: situation for pass catchers in Atlanta.

547
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 5: I am high on Tyler Lockett.

548
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: He's my wide receiver thirty Three's forty one in consensus

549
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: DK metcalf week to week, but who knows, Maybe he plays,

550
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 2: but he's got an mcl injury. But either way, I

551
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: think Lockett is getting a little underrated as usual. He

552
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 2: is the number He's a wide receaver thirty three on

553
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: the year, so that's actually where I have him ranked

554
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: this week, and you're going up against the Bills team

555
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: that they're good against receivers, but safety is not as

556
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 2: good as the years past, and Seattle's been extremely pass heavy,

557
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 2: and now you're going up against a Bills team that

558
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 2: just kind of reloaded a bit and is getting healthier

559
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: on offense, so could.

560
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 5: Be a shootout.

561
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: You are indoors here and you could have your number

562
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: one receiver on the sideline in Metcalf, So a lot

563
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: of reasons to like lock it, and I mentioning Ricky

564
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: Pierce all as well talked about him in the waivers

565
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: pot as well. But right now he's still the sixty

566
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: six wide receiver and consensus I have him over twenty

567
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: spots higher, and depending what happens with you Debo and Jennings,

568
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 2: but especially Deebo, he might move up into you know,

569
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: the top forty, top thirty five because he did have

570
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: an eighty four percent route rate last week, he was targeted.

571
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 2: He got a twenty nine percent target share after halftime

572
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: from Rock Party, So the arrow is really pointing up

573
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: on Piersoll and they might need him as soon as

574
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: as this week to be kind of a full time

575
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 2: player full time contributor, so definitely guy to monitor there.

576
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 4: Who you will on re I'm a lot on Deontay Johnson.

577
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 4: You know, he was banged up heading into the week.

578
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: I'm sure if he's gonna play, Clearly it was impacting him.

579
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 4: He only ran around on seventy three percent dropbacks, only

580
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 4: saw three targets, so he just wasn't the same even

581
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 4: when he.

582
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: Was out there.

583
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 4: And he might be on the trade block too, so

584
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 4: you know, we could start to be seeing like some

585
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 4: Davante Adams type injuries keeping him out.

586
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: But he faces Denver this.

587
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 4: Week, so if Patzertan returns this week, he might get

588
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 4: the shallow treatment from him. So I'm just down on

589
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 4: Deontay's short term, but he could be a nice by

590
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 4: low after this week since I think there's a chance

591
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 4: he does get traded. Who knows, if he ends up

592
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 4: in Kansas City, that would I mean, he would be

593
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 4: potentially a top ten receiver, So I would just weather

594
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 4: the storm now. So I'm on this week, but long term,

595
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 4: still love him, like I think he's gonna, you know,

596
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 4: have a good second half of the season, but just

597
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 4: as of now, he's let's see my wide receiver thirty,

598
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 4: So yeah, he's still kind of like a low end

599
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 4: wide receiver. Three probably have to play him in most spots,

600
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 4: but either way, we're just lower expectations this week at least,

601
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: and the wide receiver on the other side, I'm low one.

602
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 4: Courtland Sutton ran twenty eight routes last week without a target.

603
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 4: I believe he was the leader in the clubhouse when

604
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 4: it comes to that stat for most routes front without

605
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 4: a target. Always love seeing that, but just unfortunately, with

606
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: Denver winning so easily with the run game, short passing

607
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 4: just didn't need to throw to Sutton as much, and

608
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 4: that could be this issue again this week. They're facing

609
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 4: the Panthers, so they're gonna be able to get away

610
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 4: with a run heavy, conservative passing attack again, so I'm

611
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 4: down on him this week. Plus, you know, Troy Franklin's

612
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: really starting to merge. Bow neck is starting to tight

613
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 4: target his mix of time. It ends at a higher

614
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 4: rate now, So it's all taking away from Sutton a

615
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 4: bit down on this week. He'll bounce back and more

616
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 4: pass heavy game scripts, but this week against the Panthers,

617
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: he probably needs to score a touchdown top free any

618
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 4: value I don't see a ton of volume going his

619
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 4: way this week.

620
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's one of those it's like a good

621
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: matchup is in the Panthers defense stink. But Jacy Horn

622
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: is still there, and I mean it hasn't. They're still

623
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: twenty third in DEVO against number one receivers, so they're

624
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: not They haven't been great period, But yeah, you do

625
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: worry about the volume and it's kind of just difficult

626
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: to project what teunp. Payton is going to do week

627
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: to week with some of the guys on this offense.

628
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: I'm going on Wandale Wander Robinson. He's the number thirty

629
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: six wide out in consensus ranks as we record this.

630
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: He's my number forty seven with the league neighbors back.

631
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: I just don't think that Wandale in the state of

632
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: this offense, can is going to be really an asset

633
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: unless he scores a touchdown, and it's less likely because

634
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: is number one. The Giants just without Andrew Thomas, it's

635
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: just really tough for them to sustain offense. So that

636
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: last week, So the answer to that they could go

637
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: more run heavy. Obviously, you would think, you know, most

638
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: time slot receiver get you get more of those targets

639
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: underneath quick, quick passing game when you have offensive line issues.

640
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: But you got nine targets last week and turned them

641
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: into six catches for twenty three yards. So, like his

642
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: his a dot is a little bit too low for

643
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: me to really be too.

644
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 5: Interested in this.

645
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: He's already kind of maxing out and was maxing out,

646
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: you know, his volume with neighbors out of the lineup

647
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: last week his a dot was one point nine. It's

648
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: just that you you're just essentially relying on all after

649
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: the catch, and on the year, he's only averaging three

650
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: point seven.

651
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 5: After the catch.

652
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: So put those two together, Like, if you're being targeted

653
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: only a couple of yards beyond the Ryan scrimmage and

654
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: you're averaging under four YAK per catch, it's like you're

655
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: a running back, so you could have ten catches for

656
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: fifty yards. Still not going to meet too much as

657
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: you're in a full PVR and most likely unless he

658
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: scores a touchdown. So I'm off Wandale this week and

659
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: Jalen Tobert to another guys a little high for me,

660
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: thirty seventh in consensus, I have him as the number

661
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: fifty four. Already talked about Dak Prescott just not as

662
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: productive as.

663
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 5: A passer on the road.

664
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: This could be a little bit of a lower scoring

665
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: game with just all the injuries to San Franrancisco's offense,

666
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: and they're a run funnel. They're twenty first in DVO

667
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: against the run, third against the pass. So yeah, Brandon

668
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: Cook's still still out, but I think lam ferguson the

669
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: top two options in this offense. They want to get

670
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: Doubtle more involved. So I think, you know, Tobert had

671
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: had some good weeks, but I think this week it

672
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: we should temper expectations, all right, receiver prop last week

673
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: he gave me that Cooper versus Davante took Coop got

674
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: lucky with Cooper because he ran a lot fewer routes but.

675
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 5: Much more productive. Let's go, Let's go to Vontaver's Garrett

676
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 5: Wilson this week.

677
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: Oh h take your pack, who gets more who faced

678
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: more half PPR points?

679
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: So you're just going straight up.

680
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll go Wilson, all right. I actually thought about

681
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 4: that earlier. Let me look at my underlying shit here,

682
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean DeVonta just went in like he's

683
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: been playing in this offense for three years now. I mean,

684
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 4: he does have a history of Rogers, but yeah, ninety

685
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 4: eight percent routes run rate.

686
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: Just his his target rate has been down this year.

687
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 4: I still think Wilson is the player that he's entering

688
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 4: his prime, so I still think Wilson's probably the better

689
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 4: talent right now. So I still have Wilson getting you know,

690
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: more targets right now.

691
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: He has more.

692
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 4: Chemistry with Rogers, so I think he has a slight edge.

693
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I have Wilson my wide receiver fourteen and

694
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: Adams my wide receiver for nineteen. They're they're divided by

695
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 4: like half a point, so it's very close, but I'll

696
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 4: still lean Wilson.

697
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: Here. Do you have them tied?

698
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: I'm Adam's eleven, Wilson fourteen, so I have Adams. I

699
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: actually think Adam is a better talent right now. I

700
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: just think he's I just think he's still more consistent.

701
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 2: I mean, we just haven't seen much of him becau's

702
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: been with the Raiders. I don't I'm not gonna like

703
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: ging him for that yet. And Garret Wilson, he has

704
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: all the tools, he's just been a little bit inconsistent,

705
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: as we saw with some of the you know drops,

706
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: off his he makes a lot of the mistakes. I guess

707
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: that's the way I'll put it. But I mean, both

708
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: of them great options. Yeah this week either way. But

709
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: I do think it's an interesting question because it's not,

710
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 2: like you said, it's not hard to you know, you

711
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: tweak like one thing and it goes the other way.

712
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: So I'm curious to see how this.

713
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

714
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, just Wilson's in year three, like, let me put

715
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 4: it this way, He's only going to get better. Yeah,

716
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 4: whereas DeVante's past his peak, we hope. So just they're

717
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 4: a little bit different. Oh god, yeah, well I don't think,

718
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 4: well the same battle park as that, but he's much

719
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: better either way. This is close, and uh, you know,

720
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 4: we won't even talk about the Jets. Let's move I

721
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 4: was gonna say something and everything, but we could just

722
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 4: move on.

723
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 5: All right, let's go to tight end. We got your

724
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 5: top five. Who we get?

725
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: David Joku is my tight end seven? Pretty sure.

726
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 4: I highlighted him here last week, just saying that, you know,

727
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 4: Amari Cooper is gone, so that's gonna.

728
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 5: He's your top five. It's your top five first. Oh

729
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 5: oh sorry, I know you want to get into an Joku.

730
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 4: My top five is Travis Kelcey, Trey McBride, Kate Otten

731
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 4: at number three, uh Brock, Bowers, and Jake Ferguson.

732
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: I have Kittle number one, assuming he's healthy, Bowers number two,

733
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 2: Kelsey number three, Nadjoku number four, and Trey mcbrian number five.

734
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 5: So I'm high on the.

735
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: Joko's on now you can talk about Yeah, Well, I

736
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: thought I was high on David Joker.

737
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: He's my tight end seven.

738
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 4: Still a lot of things going on, he could go higher,

739
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: but yeah, I'm pretty sure.

740
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: I highlighted him here last week.

741
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 4: Just with Amari Cooper gone, he's gonna get more targets

742
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 4: and Djoku's been playing banged up. He's been able to

743
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 4: unable to finish a couple of games this year, so

744
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 4: I figured his routes run rate would only go up.

745
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 4: Sure enough, everything came together this week. Oh and I

746
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 4: also thought that Jamis Winston would take over at some point.

747
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: That happened as well, so.

748
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 4: Dtr could end up drawing the start this week if

749
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 4: he's healthy. So that's why I'm Joku around tight end seven.

750
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 4: But if Winston is under center, I think he would

751
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: certainly go up in my top five. But he just

752
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 4: has a ton of upside this week and the rest

753
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 4: of the season now. So you know, tight end's been

754
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 4: such a shit show that he's one of the guys

755
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 4: that I think is trending up. And I think we

756
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 4: can treat as a top ten maybe top five option

757
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 4: the rest of the way here.

758
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I total agree.

759
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's clearly the you know, the guy

760
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: they're trying to get involved in Cleveland. You know, he

761
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: he's if if even if DTR starts. I mean I

762
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: think DTR targeted him a good amount too, and they do.

763
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: I mean, they work together in the past, so either way,

764
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 2: I like, I do like New Joke a lot this

765
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: week as well.

766
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 5: And you mentioned you got Kate Atton.

767
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: You know, he is my tight end six, tight end

768
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: fifteen in ECR that needs to go up. He has

769
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: all of the pass catchers around him hurt. You know,

770
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: Mike Evans looks like he's gonna miss with that hamstring.

771
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: Godwin's done for the year. Outon played one hundred percent

772
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: of the pass maps last games, usually around ninety five

773
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: to one hundred runs a round, about just under ninety

774
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: percent of those, so rarely pass blots or anything like that.

775
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 5: And uh, you know this.

776
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: Week could be could could be the number one target

777
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: on the team, as crazy as that sounds. So this

778
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: is uh, this is the kate out in week all right,

779
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: who are you low on it?

780
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: Tight End week eight?

781
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 4: I hate to do this, but I'm all our boy,

782
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 4: Tucker Kraft. He's my tight end twelve. Great matchup two

783
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 4: here against the Jaguars. But and I'm still high on

784
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 4: Craft long term. I think he still could be a

785
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 4: league winning ad from you know a few weeks ago.

786
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 4: But all the Packers wide receivers are healthy for the

787
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 4: first time with Love under center since week one, so

788
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 4: Craft still just getting amazing playing time. A ninety seven

789
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 4: percent routes run rate, only drew three targets, though you know,

790
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 4: Love's been more willing to dump off to Josh Jacobs

791
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 4: than Milik. Willis was congrats on Josh Jacobs for his first.

792
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 1: Past season touchups.

793
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 4: Yeah that's crazy. So still start Craft if you have him.

794
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 4: But just you know, I would lower expectations like tight

795
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 4: end twelve this week. He probably needs They have four receivers.

796
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 4: He just needs one of those receivers to miss time

797
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: to see his target share go up a bit. But again,

798
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 4: all four are healthy right now, so it makes it

799
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 4: a little bit tougher for Craft to draw those targets.

800
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 4: And he's not getting a ton of targets downfield or

801
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 4: things like that, so he does need the volume. And yeah,

802
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 4: this is a great matchup this week, but I'm targeting

803
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 4: the Packers receivers instead. But yeah, again he's still a

804
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:08,479
Speaker 4: low end.

805
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: Tight end one. Just lower expectations of Tad this week.

806
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm tighted eleven, so I'm right there. Yeah as well,

807
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: I'm home Pat Fryarmooth, he's my tightened twenties. Still top,

808
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 2: still fourteenth in ECR that needs he needs to drop. Uh,

809
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: you know, I know Russell Wilson has given the Steelers hope,

810
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: but I think this is still a team that wants

811
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: to run the football. You're six point home favorite against

812
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: the Giants. Uh, you know, it doesn't just doesn't shake

813
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: out as much of a passing script. And you know

814
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: Michael Preuitt is back. That cut into that cut, that

815
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: cut that did cut into Friar's usage and certain personnel groups.

816
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: Just a tad bit Washington seems to be emerging. I mean,

817
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: how many times did they run that same play to

818
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: Darnel Washington last sudden. I know you didn't want to

819
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: talk about the Jets, what I mean, it just it

820
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: was just funny. That's safe talk about about the same.

821
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about the Saints. I don't

822
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: think any I don't think Saints fan. But yeah, you know,

823
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: they're just to spread the ball around offense. Russell Wilson

824
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: seemed to get the receivers a little bit more involved.

825
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: Van Jefferson got a touchdown, Pickens got his.

826
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 5: So I just.

827
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: Don't know if Fook's gonna be dependable even as a

828
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: top fifteen guy. I think he's more of a back end.

829
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: He might set him it as a back end tight

830
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 2: end too, until we until we see, you know, if

831
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: we start seeing Wilson targeting more. But Wilson is always

832
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 2: notorious for kind of under targeting tight ends for most

833
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: of his career, unless it was like Will Disley. So,

834
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: uh yeah, kind of a little concerned here about about

835
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: Friar wos All right, prop tight end?

836
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: What you got?

837
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 4: Uh So this is kind of a silly one, But

838
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with TJ. Howkinson in case he does

839
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: make his debut. Are people just putting him in his

840
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 4: lineup because tight ends such a disaster.

841
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm gonna set the line at

842
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: This is a tough one.

843
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna set it at twenty one and a half.

844
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 5: I'll go over.

845
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: I'll go over if he plays, Okay, I would actually

846
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: have him be in the w thirties if you playing,

847
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: I think he would. I think he would play about

848
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: about fifty to sixty percent snap, So I think.

849
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 1: He would actually be fairly routes run well.

850
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, say yeah, essentially the same thing in this case

851
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: because he's a kind of a not blocking Yeah yeah, yeah,

852
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: but yeah.

853
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 5: I think it would.

854
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 2: I think if he if he was in the line,

855
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: I would project him for about for about three catches.

856
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'll go over this.

857
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

858
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 4: I mean, he was close to returning, and they do

859
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 4: have the short week, but I think that maybe the

860
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 4: goal was to play him this week. We'll see again.

861
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 4: If he doesn't play, this prop doesn't count. But yeah,

862
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 4: just I'm sure we're going to get some sit start

863
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 4: questions because people are itching to play TJ. Howkinson. But

864
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 4: I'm assuming you're the same take as me. Just wait

865
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: one week, maybe next week. If he plays this week,

866
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 4: we can plug him in as a top twelve tight end.

867
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably won't get the top twelve, but I

868
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: mean the Rams are dead last and away against tight end,

869
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 2: So if you need a spark, I feel like he's

870
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: gonna be.

871
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, not top twelve this week.

872
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, I'm saying I'm saying, yeah, he's out

873
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 2: of the top twelve this week. But if you really need,

874
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 2: like if you need a streamer, like you just need

875
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: a spark and your you're an underdog, I don't I

876
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: don't mind it because I feel like he's gonna it's

877
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 2: kind of like the Amari Cooper situation. You'll probably get

878
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: targeted when he's on the field. True, won't play a

879
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: full comp but and this Ram defens has been so

880
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: bad against tight ends that I think it's I think

881
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: it's worse. And the fact that they sat him last

882
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: week after he practiced, I think there is.

883
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: They might limit him to like red zone packages, which

884
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 4: would be great. But next week they're at home against

885
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 4: the Colts. So assuming he gets his fifty five percent

886
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 4: routes run rate next week against the Colts, could you

887
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: see him being a top twelve option. Yeah, Oh yeah,

888
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 4: that's what I was getting at but yeah, oh top five. Yeah,

889
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 4: you know what at this point, Yeah, I think we

890
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 4: have a couple of teams on buying next week.

891
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, top five for sure.

892
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 2: And I mean I remember the first game he played

893
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. He came over from Detroit that same week

894
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: on like a Tuesday or something and caught nine for

895
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: nine for seventy yards in his first game with O'Connell.

896
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 5: So I mean he is. Yeah, I'm not gonna be too.

897
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 5: I think it was.

898
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: I was a lot more conservative with drafting him, you know,

899
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: like yeah earlier in the year because like you just

900
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: don't know exactly when he's gonna come back and and whatnot.

901
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: But what if he's out there, I think I'll be

902
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: I'll feel pretty good about it.

903
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 5: All right.

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