1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: This is SWBC Mortgages Cowboys Crosstalk broadcasting live from Dallas 2 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Brought to 3 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: you by Geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent 4 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: or more on car insurance and by s WBC Mortgage 5 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: customized solutions to help you meet your personal and business goals. 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Visit SWBC dot com. Now your host Shannon Gross, Canon Gross, 7 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: Wednesday night, seven o'clock PM at the Star here at 8 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys Club in Frisco, Texas. And that can mean only 9 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: one thing. It is time for Cowboys cross talking. Keeping 10 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: with the holiday spirit, we thought we would bring you 11 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: the people our own version of the Land of Misfit 12 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: Toys tonight. I'm Shannon Gross in the driver's seat of 13 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: this slave right over the next hour and to my 14 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: right from one oh five three, the flagship station of 15 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. The fan is Reggie or Detula. How 16 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: you doing, Reggie? Do him quite well? Excited to be 17 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: here with you. Did I get the last name right? 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: It was close enough. Attitude. It's not your turn yet, 19 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: You're right to You're right is the great Dallas Cowboys 20 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: dot Com writer Illin Air personality sometimes the Grinch, sometimes 21 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: the hype man. Mickey Spagnola, Welcome to the show, Mickey, 22 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: good to be with you guys. Good glad to be here. 23 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: By the way, thanks for coming to hanging out. You know, Um, 24 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: before we get to Nate, Reggie, I talked to him 25 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: every day, five days a week, that's correct, And I 26 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: had no idea who he is. And now I know 27 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: who I'm talking to. Met him in person, that's right. 28 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: Now you know who to avoid if you see. No, No, 29 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: he takes care of me. Like when I forget it's 30 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: eleven o'clock, I get the phone call from Reggie and 31 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: I come running down. Reggie was he was he taller 32 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: than you thought he would be in person. No, it's 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: about the right height. No, on the right height. But 34 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: it's it's not about you know, the size of the dog. 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: It's it's the fighting the dog. We know, Micky, he 36 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: knew the voice, you know. Yeah, there's some fighting, Mickey. 37 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: I'll take absolutely. And every once in a while we 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: like to honor greatness on this show. So we thought 39 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: that we would shuffle the chairs on this show, and 40 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: if he'll get off his phone long enough to accompany 41 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: us on this on this sleigh ride. We'll talk to 42 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: him tonight. To your right, Mickey, you don't have to 43 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: stand up, bow up at me. You can you can 44 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: sit back down. I know how tall you are and 45 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: how big you are, but six time pro bowler, three 46 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: times Super Bowl champ, my co host on hanging with 47 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: the Boys, and and here every Wednesday night with me 48 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: the great the kitchen, Nate Newton walking to the show, 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: Big Night. Yes, sir, I'll tell you what man. Now 50 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: that he's done done the introductions, all of y'all can 51 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: leave myself so y'all can get the truth on how 52 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: the Cowboys gonna win and proceed from this point on. 53 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Nate, before we get into the hardcore 54 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: football talk, we don't ever really get to know what 55 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: you've been up to, what you're doing? What do you 56 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: do now? What? What? What is on your agenda during 57 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: the wheek Now for Nate Newton as prime as Dion 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: Sanders was said, who signed the number one corner back 59 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: in the nation today, That's when I said, Dan, what's up? 60 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: He said, you wait, yeah, Yeah, that's all that's all 61 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: I been up. Mecse my weight. You need to remember 62 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: you're the guest tonight. Okay, all right, okay, I guess 63 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: I got to answer the questions. That's right. What was 64 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: the question? What have you been up to these days? 65 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: What do you do? Whenever you're not on this show 66 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: On Wednesday nights, I go home be with my beautiful bride, Michelle. 67 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: She's out there in the audience that Michelle and I 68 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: told him not to order anything over two hundred bucks. 69 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, but that's that's what I do. I live 70 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. This this time to see you know me, Shannon, Mick, Reggie, 71 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: you'll get to know me. I live for the Cowboys. 72 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: You know. Everything I do sent us around that. I 73 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: do several podcasts. I do several of I do the 74 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: post in pregame show. Sometime they get to be on TV, 75 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: but most of the time we're doing it on not 76 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: one on five y'all already have y'all deal, but we 77 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: do it on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Three imposts all 78 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: doing then during the offseason, I travel, but I'm a 79 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: United States guy, so you can find me in Montana 80 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: one week, Arizona next week, North Carolina next week, maybe 81 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: up Georgia the next week. I just I just travel. 82 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: I try to put maybe twenty five thousand miles on 83 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: my car year just to travel. Here's the thing with 84 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: with Nate. Reggie, Me and me and me and Mickey 85 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: know this all too well. Nate, no lie loves to travel, right, 86 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: he loves to dry. It doesn't fly. Oh, he drives 87 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: all these places. He one time texted us in the 88 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: middle of the week, went all the way to California, 89 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: San Diego, went down to Mexico to have lunch with 90 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: a guy, and then drove all the way back. Yeah. 91 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: But that's the scenic way to do it, isn't it. 92 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: It's the way to do it. Fly and you see 93 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: the airport, you drive, you see the you see him, Yeah, 94 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: yeah I do. I've seen America the ugly, the good, 95 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: the bad, and it don't matter whatever you mean where 96 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm going because when I went down to Mexico, tell 97 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: us about it? Did I want to take pictures to 98 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: make sure everybody know? Why? Whoa boy? You think it's 99 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: a bad spots in America? Mexico can do it to you. Well, 100 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 1: you mentioned the good, the bad, the ugly. Reggie, where 101 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: are you at on this Cowboys team right now? It's 102 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: rained Before you do that it's kind of flipped. The 103 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: beginning of the year, the offense was carrying the team. 104 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: Everybody was like, if this defense can just be middle 105 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: of the road, we're in good shape. The offense is 106 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: gonna score forty every week. We just need to hold 107 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: them to thirty nine. Right now, it's like we got 108 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: a top five offense, I mean defense. Man. Now now 109 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: the offense trying to get it together. Where are you 110 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: My personal opinion, if you can figure the offensive side out, 111 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: you got the right people at the right time. Coming 112 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: back on defense, you got a few weeks to figure 113 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: that out. We're gonna be hard to reckon with in 114 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: the playoffs, but can we get there offensively? Where are 115 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: you at on this whole time? Oh man? Good, bad, 116 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: and ugly is a great way of putting it right now. 117 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: And like you said, it's been flipped. We expected the 118 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: offense to carry the load in the defense to just 119 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: come along and do their part. Defense is carrying the 120 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: load at this point in the year. That's the good. 121 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: The bad has been the injuries. But fortunately for this 122 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys team, you're starting to see the folks come back 123 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: and that pass rush that's come together and Randy Gregory Tank, 124 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: Lawrence Michael Parsons, that's gonna put some fear in the 125 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: rest of the teams in the NFC. In the NFL, 126 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: the ugly right now has been the offense. And like 127 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: the unfortunately the guy that has been really good this 128 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: year to start, Dak Prescott, it's been it's been ugly played. 129 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: But fortunately at least the way that I've been able 130 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: to u gather some hope in it is we've seen 131 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: him be incredible this season. So if he can get 132 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: back to that type of play and execution really with 133 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: the offense, and I think that this is a team 134 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: to be reckoned with all the way through the postseason. Mick. 135 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: They got to get the offensive line fixed because Dack's 136 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: not out there playing singles. As Bill Parcels used to 137 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: tell us, right, this is a team game, And did 138 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: you do you think it's just kind of coincidence that 139 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback is struggling a little, the running game is 140 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: struggling a little, So why is that. Well, if those 141 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: guys up front don't play any better, they'll continue to struggle. 142 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: They got to get that line settled. They got to 143 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: get some continuity up there and then get these guys 144 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: going behind them. So to me, when you're playing quarterback 145 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: under durest a lot, you're gonna make some mistakes and 146 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna start forcing things when you're not running the 147 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: football and you're always in second and eight, third and seven. 148 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: That's that's bett, you know, good for the defense, right. 149 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: And then the other thing that's got to happen is 150 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: when they execute. They got to do it in the zone. 151 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: Because one one out of five touchdowns in the red 152 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: zone this past Sunday, that's not gonna cut it. That'll 153 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: get you beat because you're kicking too many field goals. 154 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: So they kind of quit making mistakes when they get 155 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: into the red zone and put themselves in a hole. 156 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: If they can get that offensive line playing with some continuity, 157 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: they'll figure this offense out. They guest of honor, where 158 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: are you at on all this? You know? The amazing 159 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: thing about all of this is all of this can 160 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: be fixed with with with with one simple ouncer, And 161 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: they started to shlfing other offensive lines around. By the 162 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: time our quarterback returned from a calf injury, that was 163 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: number one that was wrong. Number two. When we saw 164 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: that our quarterback was not doing what he normally does 165 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: and that's cover up the mistakes. Then you should have 166 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: started right then, Doug nussmer Kell, him and coach mccarthers 167 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: started right there in the second game against the FC West, 168 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: fixing it right then. You know, we should have saw 169 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: that his decision making was a live it off, you know, 170 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: and we should have been trying to get him back 171 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: to rookie Dak where Dak would not throw that ball 172 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: into trumpling devil curve coverage. He would not he would 173 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: know what was going on, and if he didn't see it, 174 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: he just threw the ball away. So that's where we 175 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: started at. Secondly, Secondly, offensive line is not as bad 176 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: as most people want to want to portray it. You know, 177 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: we don't have the great back anymore because he is hurt. 178 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: Zeke is hurt. We don't have a tight end that 179 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: we can set the edge so we can take advantage 180 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: of turning it pollup before he got hurt. This offensive 181 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: line is a middle of the old role offensive line. 182 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: When the right guard is missing or the left tackle 183 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: is missing, we've become an average offensive line. When those 184 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: two guys are in, we are above average of the line. 185 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: Coach Filman should be in coach Kellum's office, making sure 186 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: that protection lines up with what the quarterback is trying 187 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: to throw. What another thing we have to do is 188 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: you gotta know where your strength at. And everybody else 189 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: can talk about what's supposed to be. We got to 190 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: talk about what is We got three diamonds mega diamonds 191 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: sitting on our offense that we will not get the 192 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: ball to. I don't care if they drop a few 193 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: pass I'm talking about wide receivers. That is your job 194 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: wide receiver coach, that is your job running I mean 195 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. These are the stars. Find a way, you know. 196 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: Aren't you tired of saying, Wow, New England do it 197 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: with less talent. Well, New England don't do it with 198 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: less talent. They have great talent. That's just what they got, 199 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: y'all believing. But to come out and run a ball 200 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: fifty times fifty times? You mean to tell me we 201 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: got three mega why receiver us and we cannot find 202 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: a way to get them the ball? No, sir, No sir. 203 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: We should be by the end of this deal and 204 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: were sitting at maybe twelve and whatever. We should be 205 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: killing folks when it comes to the playoffs because our 206 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: quarterback been on found his glory and they've never been 207 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: a found a scheme that fits what our stars are. 208 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: Zeke is hurt if he wasn't, he was on his 209 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: way to something special to Toni, A polo has found 210 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: his niche We have to find what you what we do? We? 211 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: And my other question is what did for game one 212 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: through game nine? Name our defensive starters? It was not 213 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: Gregory every every snap. It was not DeMarcus Lawrence, and 214 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't and it wasn't this kid Gallimore. It was 215 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: names we couldn't even pronounce. A kid named Oh so 216 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: what is his name? Yea? Yeah? Yeah? Who heard him? 217 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: Who heard bone? Hannah? Who heard them? But you know 218 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: what the coaches did. They got together, they built the scheme, 219 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: and they executed this scheme. That is what our offense. 220 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: The coaches, where's our money at? Where's our money at? 221 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: Our money is on the offense. Don't don't don't tell 222 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: me you can't. Don't tell me you can't do it. Don't. 223 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear. That's not excuse, it's not acceptable. 224 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: We won't tell you that they can't do it. But 225 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: we do have to take a break and we'll come back. 226 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: I love this position. When we come back, maybe you'll 227 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: let one of us talk and I want you know 228 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: you're the guest of honor, but we we we would 229 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: like to be part of the show. The second say okay, well, 230 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: you know what's your show. You can do what you want, 231 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: So come back to the Nate Newton Show. Right after 232 00:12:43,160 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: this you listen Mortgages Cowboys Cross Talk Check just broadcasting 233 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. 234 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Nate Newton Show, Coloys Club in Frisco, 235 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: tab Shanny Gross joined by Reggie out of Tula, micky' spagnola, 236 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: the Great Nate Newton. And before we get back at it, 237 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: at s WBC, they have customized solutions for individuals and 238 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: businesses and they're just to click away, Mickey, go visit 239 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: SWBC dot com, learn more and start your next at Benjure. Absolutely, 240 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: that signs right behind me during the podcast every day 241 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: you're during the way, it is the beautiful podcast studio 242 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: downstairs right what you call its WB man to fix 243 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: our offense? You think they can put a game? I 244 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: don't know, Nate. Maybe we'll make that call on the 245 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: second break, But right now we have more important things 246 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: to get to And since you you you left off 247 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: the first segment talking, I'll let's let's get right back 248 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: into you talking this time of the year. What we 249 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: got four games? Four games? What is the mentality when 250 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: you played? What was the mentality of the team going 251 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: into this final stretch in the last four games. Was 252 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: there ever a season where you guys didn't quite have 253 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: it all together? Did you worry about getting it together? 254 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: Were there are certain things you were working on? And 255 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: then Mick I want you to follow up when he 256 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: does that, and is there any season that you remember 257 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: over the years that you compare? Can compare this season 258 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: two where one part of the team was clicking at 259 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, the second part wasn't. And 260 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: then what happened at the end of that season? Were 261 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: they able to tie? You remember the sound of the 262 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: season where we went up to Detroit and got defense, 263 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: got ran through. Yeah, that was that season where they see, 264 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: I don't have the expectations that everybody has for his team. 265 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: I have the expectations is if you get seated right 266 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: and get that first week at home, then you have 267 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: an opportunity to play the second week. And if you 268 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: play the second week, you've got to really rally because 269 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: the team you're playing, I know it's equal or better 270 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: than you. So you've got to really rally as a team. 271 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: So I think it's a learning process or what these 272 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: guys have to start doing it now. It's making sure 273 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: they're going to extra film mold, making sure they're going 274 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: to extra taking care of my body mold. And they 275 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: have to they have to be about their business. They 276 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: have to be about their business. And and see this, 277 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: this is what it's hardcore for a lot of guys. 278 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: It ain't about your wife, your mama, your kids, it 279 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: ain't about your friends. It's about for four weeks preparing yourself. 280 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: And I had to learn this and ain't about being 281 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: in the club or doing extra things. It Charles Haley 282 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: took me through it. Randy White took me through it. 283 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: It's called dedication. All you gotta do is blockdown for 284 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: a month for something that something that few people can have, 285 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: and that's a that's a playoff run. And this is 286 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: what these guys got to do, especially guy, and I'm 287 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: talking to guys like myself who were wild, who were 288 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: out there was wilding out man and doing this thing. 289 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: I had had to come back. I had to pull 290 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: that thing in for a month, because this is where 291 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: the great teams started making their moves. May you remember 292 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: a season be wild anymore? Or if the fansom hope 293 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: what he's talking about is ninety one? Okay, okay, the 294 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys were sitting there, and by the way, how's this forsymmetry? 295 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: During this stretch of the season, they were sitting there 296 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: at six and five, and they had to play three 297 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: consecutive road games. They lost at Houston in overtime, got 298 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: beat by maybe the Rams. Yeah, and then the third 299 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: road game was at Washington and Washington was undefeated, and 300 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: they went in there and won the game, upset them 301 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: twenty four twenty one, and Troy got knocked out early 302 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: in the third quarter and Steve Burline came in and 303 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: finished it off and then they won. So then now 304 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: they're seven and five, and they won four straight to 305 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: finish eleven and five. They go into the playoffs and 306 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: everybody's like, yeah, well, this team hadn't won a playoff 307 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: games since nineteen eighty five. They go up to Chicago 308 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: and win, right, and it's like, oh my god, what's 309 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: going on, and then they're going to Detroit, and I 310 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: remember this so vividly. They got wiped out, like he said, 311 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: by Detroit Eric Kramer, of all people, Eric Kramer put 312 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: thirty some points on him, right, and I'm going there 313 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: is no way that's gonna happen again. I don't remember, 314 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: but he threw for three hundred yards and they got 315 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: beat again thirty something to ten. Yes, right, But they 316 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: had turned the season around at that point, and they 317 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: came into their own and they called A matter of fact, 318 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: I was just talking to rich Delrymble, the Cowboys PR director, 319 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: and we were talking about that ninety one season, and 320 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: I remember that on the way back, I had never 321 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: been on the charter flight before. It's a long story, 322 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: but I was on it, and they could have flown 323 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: home without any fuel. The place was going crazy because 324 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: they qualified for the playoffs for the first time since 325 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: eighty five. And on top of that, Jimmy and Jerry 326 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: were getting just beaten up about they don't know anything 327 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: about football, and all of a sudden they qualified theirselves 328 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: because now we're in the playoffs, right, We made the 329 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: playoffs as a wildcard team. They go on the road 330 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: and win and that turned this whole franchise around that year. 331 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: So again, you can pivot the last four games of 332 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: the season, I've seen it, But again, you gotta get 333 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: the offense going. The defense, hey, hang in there. It's okay. 334 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: If you win a game with the defense, that's no 335 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 1: problem whatsoever, as long as you win. And it's like 336 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: I told people last week when Wow, it was an 337 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: ugly win at the Saints, but it was a win, 338 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: right And I went and got my T shirt that 339 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: I've had since nineteen eighty three. And the White Sox 340 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 1: got into the playoffs for the first time since fifty nine. 341 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: Right fifty nine. I was like six years old when 342 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: they got in, and all of a sudden, eighty three 343 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: they're in. Doug Raider, the manager of the Texas Rangers 344 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: at the time, he didn't like the White Sox team, right, 345 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: he said, ah, they're winning ugly. Right, Well, they won 346 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: ninety nine games and won the division title. So I 347 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: got a T shirt that says winning ugly what the 348 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: White Sox logo in the middle of it. Like Nate 349 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: brought up expectations while ago Reggie Ate, Nate is good 350 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: with how many winning one two playoff games? Yeah, that's 351 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: your expectations because and out of that, Reggie explained. Reggie, 352 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: but I want to say something man, But go ahead 353 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: on Reggie. What are your expectations? What do you expect? 354 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: What would you be happy with this team doing? Issue. 355 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: The funny thing about expectations is I placed them in 356 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: a different in a different area than I think most 357 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: of you. Like Mickey was talking about, wins and losses 358 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: are super important. You get a win, don't apologize that 359 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: for that. But my expectation is more on the quality 360 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: of play than wins and losses. My expectations are now 361 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: raised to a point because we talked about bec coming 362 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: into the season where the expectation is, like, say, for 363 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: the defense, just be average. I've seen this team come 364 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: out and play incredible football, I like you did on 365 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: one oh five through the fan too, Like you have 366 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: a child and they're capable of as and then you 367 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: see them start making seas. That's what we're seeing from 368 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: this team at times, especially on offenses that no, no, no, 369 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: I've seen you be a pick your poison type offense. 370 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: I've seen you be a team that has defenses on 371 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: their heels. That's now my expectation of them because I've 372 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: seen that from them. So when it comes to expectations, 373 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: I want them to play that type of football. And 374 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: then if they played that type of football, now we're 375 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: talking about a one game playoff type situation, or you know, 376 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: once you get some playoffs is a one game at 377 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: a time. I expect you to play that type of football. 378 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: If something crazy happens, I can live with that. If 379 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: you find a way to win ugly, I can live 380 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: with that. But what I won't be able to live 381 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: with is them playing poorly and then losing off of that, 382 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: because I've seen them be the type of team that 383 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: can go deep into the playoffs this season. I'm not 384 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: even talking about ninety one. It's funny that you were 385 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: talking about ninety one Nate and Mickey, because I was 386 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: born in ninety two. I didn't even have an opportunity 387 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: to see that, so I don't even have to hark 388 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: him back to them. I've seen it in September, in 389 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: October from this team. I want to see this now December, January, 390 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: maybe February. Let's go this. This This is the issue. 391 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: Like I try to explain to people, was that that 392 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: eleven sacks season against Philly two was that that season? 393 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: It was I think it was the eleven sacks first 394 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: time you played him and this eleven sacks in one game. Yeah, 395 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: and we lost the same quarterback too by And this 396 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: is this is the funny thing I tell people. Then 397 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: the next time we played Philly and Coach Johnson told 398 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: us we need to win this game. We have to win. 399 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: I don't care how we do it. And see the reason, 400 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: I'm not panicking. And I don't know what kind of 401 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: moxie coach got the head coach got with his players, 402 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: but you gotta get You gotta win these games. You 403 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: not not for Arizona or not for the Ramp, for yourself, 404 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: and you gotta get better at winning these games. So 405 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: now that many coaches should be up in their office, 406 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: sleeping in the office trying to find a better way, 407 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: not more plays, but what plays work and putting it 408 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: together and giving your quarterback the package where he's comfortable. 409 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: And so now because he told coach though Berline how 410 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: to be the Philadelphia hit Troy for eighty five thousand times, 411 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: he told Berline, you ain't holding onto the ball. So 412 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: I think in the first half he was like one 413 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: for thirteen or one for sixteen and see, but we 414 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: didn't have at that time what people are considered star players. 415 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: But through hard work and dedication, these average guys became 416 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: star players. So when when I look at people that 417 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: say the officsive line, this, uh, this, this and this 418 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: the only problem we got, Fellas, if we can get 419 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: us a tight end that can set the edge, be 420 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: at a officsive tackle or anybody, but he can set 421 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: the edge, you'll see a different run game. So he's 422 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: exactly right. Jimmy told Burline when they went to Philadelphia 423 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: for that game with a chance to clinch the wildcard 424 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: birth Yes, he said, I don't care if you only 425 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: complete twenty percent of your passes. I don't want you 426 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: to turn the ball over, and I do not want 427 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: you to take a sack because once they get one sack, 428 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: they get two, they get free and all the people 429 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: in the stadium go crazy. He said, so you just 430 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: throw the ball away. I don't care, And that's what 431 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: Burline did and they were able to win the Kevin 432 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: Martin's punt returned in the fourth quarter to win the game. 433 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: And it started. And what I'm trying to say is 434 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: it ain't got to be perfect, which you got to win, 435 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: and you got to keep yourself in position always to 436 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: win so your quarterback can have the opportunity to take 437 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: you over the top. And that is what I'm saying. 438 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: The most important thing right now is to find Dat's center. 439 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: You got to find his center. I don't care what 440 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: you do. And the most important thing right now on 441 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: this show is that we pay some bills and we 442 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: go to break when we come back more on The 443 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: Nate Newton Show. You're listening to Cowboys Crosstalk on the 444 00:27:27,160 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Radio Network wh M is WBC Mortgages, Cowboys 445 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: Cross Talk, Yeah Check broadcasting live from the Cowboys Club 446 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco. Thanks for hanging out with 447 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: us on this Wednesday night. And before we get back 448 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: to the Nate Newton Show, SWBC Mortgage joined them more 449 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: than one hundred and twenty thousand customers that we've helped 450 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: to find their happier way home. Is a SWBC Mortgage 451 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: dot com to find a pro Today, Shannon Gross, Reggie 452 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: out of Tula, Mickey's Bag, Olla, and the Great Nate 453 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: Newton joining us tonight for our I guess we have 454 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: one more show before we get to the Christmas Yeah, man, 455 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: you won name out to some time in Louisiana. Was 456 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: no last name you're thinking about? Yeah? Yeah, I was 457 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: thinking at Tula had to be from Louisiana. Yeah, no, 458 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: it's actually Nigerian? Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, so 459 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: you was born in Nigerian born in Houston originally? Right? 460 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: Okay but close? Yeah, somewhat somewhat yeah, but yeah no, 461 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: definitely a Nigerian name. Cool. Well, Reggie, since Nate hadn't 462 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: let you talk very much tonight, what throw a topic 463 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: out there? What would you like to spin the wheel on. 464 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like we've been talking a lot 465 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: about it, but we've got Nate noon here. It feels 466 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: like it's right to talk about the offensive line, Like, 467 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: would you like to get into the nitty gritty of 468 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: what's happening there? Because you talked overall, but I mean, 469 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: what besides just like the switch in that consistency or 470 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: what is it the fantasy football nature of changing out 471 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: the lineman. That's that's been the change I think should 472 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: stop with this game here. Whoever your left guard is 473 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: allowed that person to be the left guard. Whoever your 474 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: right tackle is allowed him. Okay, now we have to 475 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: rally at the left cause Tyron is not there. So 476 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: who would you put there? Who that left tackle for Tyrant? Uh? 477 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: See me personally? Me and you talked earlier. You said 478 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: they wanted they feel more comfortable with still doing all 479 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: the extra heavy set. But the three games when it 480 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: would be Lyle the president the regular center, I would, 481 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: I would. I would let coach Phildman make the call 482 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: on the left guard because I don't know enough between 483 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: mcgover and will I let but whoever it is starting 484 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: this game need to start the rest of the season, 485 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: because I will go with U. I will go still right. 486 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: It's just you know, and I've seen this other kid 487 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: play the sinki. Yeah whatever, Okay, that kid, I've seen 488 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: him play and some plays maybe like okay, oh, it 489 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: ain't as bad as I thought. And then all of 490 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, I'll be like, Okay, but he's been fortunate 491 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: because them times when he ain't touching nobody, they've gotten 492 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: the ball out of the out of their hands quick. 493 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to see a whole game. I don't 494 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: is this normal? Like here, I think we're used to. 495 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: Here's your line at the beginning of the season. Unless 496 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: somebody gets hurt, that's pretty much your line throughout the 497 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: whole year. This year, it seems like they've been, you know, 498 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: picking and choosing and musical chairs. Is that normal throughout 499 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: the league? Does that happen a lot where you have 500 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: to be injured? You have to be injured right to 501 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: to have that type of deal. Uh? And that and 502 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: seeing I'm looking at teams that have those type of 503 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: deals and they're winning games. They're winning games because the 504 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: quarterback is supposed to be that guy that can can 505 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: can orchestrate the game. But I keep judging everybody off 506 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: of three of the four guys. And that's not fair. 507 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: That's not fair. But because you ain't Casey, you ain't 508 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: Green Bay, you ain't Seattle, and you ain't Uh the Bucks, 509 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: well guess what and and you know what, and they're 510 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: still in the hunt. They are, They're still in the hunts. 511 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm I try to share this with 512 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: people in the Great Randy Galloway would always tell me 513 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: two things, even me a you know Randy Gallawey, you know, 514 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: tough guy, mean guy, but a righteous guy. He Nate, 515 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: did you watch the game it's all about the quarterback. 516 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: And for years and years and years, I'm like, Okay, 517 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: build your team. And I still believe that. You hear 518 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: me saying all the time, build your team. So when 519 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: you do get that man, he can do wonders. And 520 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: Dak is at a stage in his career, you know. 521 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: And I know he had the riffic injury a year ago. 522 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: I know he had the calf injury. I know he's 523 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: had some pressures, some pressure, specially to g games, to 524 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: go against some against Saints, the Saint against the AFC West. 525 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: I knew it was held during the AFC West that 526 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: run through all through that division, starting with Denver. Yeah. Yeah, 527 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: So now the only thing that I see that is different. 528 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: Everybody's saying, two deep safeties, let's back up off the ball, 529 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: Let's make them be patient. Dak used to have that patience. 530 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: Get back to that patience, get rid of that ball. 531 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm telling if he ever centered himself, we gonna do 532 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: some things in the playoffs. We're gonna do something. Then 533 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: I fear nobody. Four weeks ago, I feared nobody. Now 534 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm sitting find myself, like the rest of these fans, 535 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: do we want to play Green Bay? Do we want 536 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 1: to play Tampa Bay? Oh? Man, we've been not running 537 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: into the Rams. They're not everybody. Everybody want the Cardinals. Okay, 538 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: becup of what Jack's well. Are you're gonna get them? Right? Are? 539 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: I mean? Are you got scared of the Cardinals. It 540 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: seems like one of the Cardinals big wheat wall. I 541 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 1: would be a weakness, is that I'd know that offensive 542 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: line and Michael Parsons could take care of that. I 543 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: was I would be more concerned with the Rams and 544 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford than the Cardinals and Kyler Murray. And that 545 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: may sound weird, but why is that? Because I think 546 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: he can be more erratic. He will throw some balls 547 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: up that they're fifty fifty balls and he'll take a 548 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,439 Speaker 1: sack or two. Um, So in the playoffs you might 549 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: not get away with that stuff. Uh. We gotta remember, 550 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: see we talked about the offensive line. They made the changes. 551 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: You're right, they need to get back to continuity there. Uh. 552 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: Connor Williams to me, the only reason they changed him 553 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: out was because he was getting called was a mark 554 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: man and so they knew what the referees were looking at. Right, 555 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: So that you get a lot of flailing as a 556 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: defensive player. Yeah, and so so they were so that 557 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: they took him out to save holding calls. But I 558 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: don't know that Connor McGovern played football better. He just 559 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: didn't get called for holding. Maybe he should have, right, 560 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: So I think if he returns there, if Steel can 561 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: hold down the fort till Tyran Smith gets back. Lele 562 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: Cowens is playing better on the right side, then I 563 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: think this offensive line can get back with some continuity 564 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 1: and they can be able to get back. And if 565 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: those teams want to play too deep, all right, we're 566 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: gonna run the ball on you. Right. The thing is, 567 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: fellas people out there understand, not you guys, because y'all 568 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: gonna have y'all opinions, and that's what makes us who 569 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: we are. I'm telling you people out there that's want 570 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: to absorb some real information. When the playoffs come, the 571 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: defense is gonna dictate something and you, as a quarterback, 572 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: have to digest it. Everybody's beat up and the only 573 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 1: thing that gets you over it is film, study and grit. 574 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: Whoever quarterback plays the best in the playoffs will win. 575 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: We can sit up and assume each quarterback is this, 576 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: this and this, but only three of them we know. 577 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: That's cold blooded. There's only three of them that we 578 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: know that can stand up under the fire of a 579 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: playoff run. Other than that, it's just a wild cause 580 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: it's a crapshoot. See. And the other thing we forget 581 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: about when we talked about when things started falling apart, 582 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: who was missing both wide receivers? Right? You know, CDs 583 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: out for a game and a half, Amari's out for 584 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: two games, and now you're playing with your fourth fifth 585 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: wide receivers out there, and Gallup had just returned, if 586 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: you remember, from an injury in the first game of 587 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: the season. I knew that one gonna work. So yeah, 588 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: it was tough, right. I knew, you know, Reggie when 589 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: I went. You know, like I tell people, when you're 590 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: sitting around, the worst thing I can is to sit 591 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: around at a table with people that think they know football. 592 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: I'm serious, because history are to teach you something. Why 593 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: did we go get Amari Cooper? You need it, You 594 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 1: needed the next receiver, and you needed a nice receiver. 595 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: You needed a religion because we was going to do 596 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: a receiver by what committee? Is it ever worked with? 597 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: Daddak is not that type of quarterback. Thatak is not 598 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: that Hey, y'all, jump on my back. I'm fat enough 599 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: to hold all y'all. Dak ain't that guy. He ain't 600 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: that guy. Bro. He needs his weapons. And when you 601 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: get in and I'm many seen thirty two teams and 602 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,959 Speaker 1: it's twenty seven teams that need their weapons because ain't 603 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: before guys can do what I'm talking about. That's just 604 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: all gotten on the truth. Reggie, do you have confidence 605 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: in this team that they can find the rhythm on 606 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: offense now that they've got Dak's weapons back at wide receiver, 607 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: they're trying to fit figure out what's going on on 608 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 1: the offensive line. Do you think the offense can now 609 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: catch back up to the defense and write this thing 610 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: heading into the playoffs. I mean, it's they're capable of it, 611 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: because we've seen them do it. Like I mean, if 612 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: there's any you know, doubt about it, we've seen it 613 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: with our own eyes. They've got to find a way 614 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: to get back to that, right And I have a 615 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: little bit of hesitance about that because we saw the 616 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: full compliment of wide receivers in this past game and 617 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 1: it didn't look the way that we wanted to look. 618 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: So you know they have that capability. Hopefully with senstability, 619 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: like you guys have talked about on the line, the 620 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: run game can look a little bit more thirty. Y'all. 621 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: If we can tote the ball thirty five times in 622 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: a game and get one hundred and twenty five yards, 623 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna win the game. Any game or this week, 624 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: next week. If we can get thirty five carriers one 625 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five yards and no fumbles, we're gonna 626 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: win the game. We're gonna win the game. And it 627 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: ain't about our offense catching up to our defense. It's 628 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: about our offense finding their center. When you are at 629 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: peace with who you are in the execution, it don't work. 630 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: It don't work. You don't have to worry about catching up. 631 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: You just play your game. You don't have to catch up. 632 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: See in Dallas, we are such a big market and 633 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: such a powerhouse promotion team. To it's always one or 634 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: the other. It's not one of the other. Our defense 635 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: is mad. My players when I played, are mad at me. 636 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: All defensive players are mad at us because they we 637 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: were a top five defense. I asked many of the 638 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: people in the crowd, Hey, you know, our defense is 639 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: ranked when we had that great soap for called great offense. 640 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: Oh no, about ten, twelve, maybe one year y'all was five. No, 641 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: for four or five years, a top five defense in 642 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: every category. But who was talked about. It ain't about 643 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: catching up. It's about just doing your job. They had 644 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: the number one defense in nineteen ninety two when they 645 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: went and won that Super Bowl. Yes, and not one 646 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 1: of them made a Pro Bowl. Wow, not one of them. 647 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: That's the first time I had to see Jimmy do 648 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: some some some fast talking. He starts smacking his last 649 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: he had to do because after that Pro Bowl vote 650 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: came out of ninety two and we were all in 651 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: the next meeting. You talk about some defensive players hot, upset, 652 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: and we had to get prepared for again. Jimmy came 653 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: in and laid down some good stuff to die out 654 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: of this and die out of that and appease those guys. Man, 655 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: That's first I've ever seen him do that. You have 656 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: to pay for it in practice because they were all 657 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: jacked up. Na No, because like I told him, I said, 658 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: now y'all know you carried the fat guy. Yeah, Hey, Nate, 659 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: when we come back, we're gonna take our last break 660 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: and we come back. Think about this in the break. 661 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: I want a good Since the Pro Bowl voting is 662 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 1: coming to an end, at least the fan portions. We 663 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: got quite a few guys that maybe should make the 664 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl team. We'll talk about who y'all I think 665 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: should be on the Pro Bowl. Think about a good PG. 666 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: Thirteen story that you can tell of all your six 667 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: trips to the Pro Bowl, that you can tell. This 668 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: is a family show. So I got a good One's ease? 669 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: You got a good easy one. All right, we'll get 670 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: to Nate's Pro Bowl story. We'll talk a little Giants football. 671 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little who on this team is worthy 672 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,959 Speaker 1: of going to the Pro Bowl when we come back. 673 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Nate Newton Show on the Dallas 674 00:43:24,400 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys Radio Network w the BC Mortgages Cowboys Cross Talk 675 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: Ye broadcasting live from the Cowboys Club at the Star 676 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: in Frisco. Welcome. I'm back to the show SWBCPEO helping 677 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: to alleviate the hr administrative burden that comes with running 678 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,919 Speaker 1: a business. Leave the word to us. Visit swbcpeo dot 679 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,760 Speaker 1: com to find out more. We are back Shannon Gross 680 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: joined by Reggie out of Tula, Mickey Spagnola and the 681 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: great Nate Newton and Nate was uncle Nate was just 682 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 1: about to tell us a good old Pro Bowl story name. 683 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna hear about these guys. Man, what guys 684 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,439 Speaker 1: you say? Who does? Who are deserving? And but three? 685 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: Ship mate? Who are your guys? Okay, quick deferring, this 686 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: is your show, but we'll do this first. Who are 687 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: your three? Who are your three guys that on this 688 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:20,919 Speaker 1: team are deserving? To go? Martin? Okay, the kid number level? 689 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: Michael Parson, Michael Parson, sir? And dis you say that 690 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: reluctantly with Diggs? Okay, yeah, Mickey, who you got? I'm 691 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: kind of with Nate and I'm trying to think if 692 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:37,879 Speaker 1: we've left anybody and the partner ringer, I can't believe 693 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 1: you're talking about. They didn't exist in your world. You 694 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 1: know what? He leads the league right now in net 695 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: punning meaning how far you kick it and how far 696 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 1: they bring it back? The defense? Love him net Punning, 697 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 1: He's number one his defense. Love him. I'm telling you, 698 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: coach queen and be like, wait, yeah, what about curse? 699 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: Would you put cursing them? Not yet? Is that a 700 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: really good season. But you know what's going to happen 701 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: with him is no one knows who he was coming 702 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: in here. You know, you can't ignore Michael Parsons right, right, 703 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: you can't ignore what Diggs is doing. Right, And then 704 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: you gotta have a season like this and then do 705 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: it again next year, and then you'll get the votes 706 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 1: because you know, part of the votes are fans, but 707 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: the rest of the votes are the coaches and the players, 708 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of the players, I don't know how 709 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: acknowledgeable they are. What other teams are doing that they 710 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: don't play against, right, So you gotta make a name 711 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,359 Speaker 1: for yourself and then you get into Pro Bowl. Now, Nay, 712 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: one thing I want to ask, I know you, I mean, 713 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,359 Speaker 1: you guys are spot on with the guys that I 714 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 1: was thinking of. The one guy that pops out that 715 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm interested in you guys's opinion on because I know 716 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: defensive end or edge rushing is a tough spot and 717 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: I know he's missing games. Randy Gregory was putting up 718 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: a pretty good season. Is that a guy that you 719 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: were putting that consideration? He's unfortunately he doesn't have I 720 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 1: don't know if he has enough games to make up 721 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,240 Speaker 1: for what he before he lost, right because the voting 722 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: ends this week. I think that right, I think the 723 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,320 Speaker 1: fan votings this week. Yeah, it ends like like Thursday 724 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: or something. By the way, votes on Twitter count double today. 725 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: So go to the Cowboys Twitter account and retweet and 726 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,359 Speaker 1: vote for your favorite Dallas Cowboys. He votes many times. 727 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 1: You want, can absolutely social media, you can roll, you 728 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: can retweet to your heart's content. Nate, get your guys 729 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: in there, get your three guys gonna make it. I 730 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: don't do that. I don't do the deserving guys. I 731 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: leave that for fans and who buying jerseys and which 732 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: is a great thing. But I don't do deserving guys. 733 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: I like guys that that earned the right to be 734 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: in there. Do you ever vote on those singing shows 735 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: like you? N never do that? Right now, man, I 736 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 1: don't even watching him theme. My wife watching them things. Right, 737 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,879 Speaker 1: tell us a good old Pro Bowl story and Nate 738 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 1: Newton procos story. Okay, the first year we had when 739 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy was there and we had I think it was 740 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: on an Emmet and somebody else made the Pro Bowl 741 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 1: it over was the only guys on offense was at 742 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: night it was ninety yeah. Yeah, So everybody was kind 743 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: of disappointed because they thought rich I really didn't think 744 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: that I had a shot. But you know, I told him, 745 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: I said, Man, if I ever make the Pro Bowl, 746 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 1: I'm going over there and I'm putting on me a 747 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: hula hula hula skirt, you know what I'm saying, The 748 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: palm trees and the hula skirt. And uh. As soon 749 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,800 Speaker 1: as I made it, Richdom came and said, you know 750 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: what you said, right, I'm ready. And when I got 751 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 1: over I got to pitch at home where I had 752 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 1: on the hula skirt and everything and was doing a 753 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 1: little dance and all of that shirt or shirtless shirt. Man, 754 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep on the shirt. Man, I ain't. I 755 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 1: ain't got that type of body. You know. I had 756 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,879 Speaker 1: to pay my wife to marry me. So it's the face. 757 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 1: Did y'all Did y'all put drinks on other people's rooms 758 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 1: and do jokes? And nah? Nah, we didn't do that. Man. 759 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 1: I would go to the bar and uh, and people 760 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,760 Speaker 1: have just liked me and they would just buy me drinks, 761 00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: you know. And I never had to pay for a 762 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 1: drink when I was over there. Sounds like when we 763 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 1: were in London. Yeah, yeah, people see me, man, other 764 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,240 Speaker 1: players to see me. And uh, I had a reputation 765 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 1: for being fun, having fun. You used to be fun, man, 766 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 1: I used to be done. You still have fun. Did 767 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 1: you ever go to the Pro Bowl when you weren't 768 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: in it just to join the other guys? No? No, no, 769 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, man, that costs money. Back then, now 770 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: you know when you you know when you you know. 771 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 1: Now you know, hey ain't bad. But back then, no, sir, 772 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 1: no to Hawaii. Yeah, man, I took my family members, 773 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 1: my friends. I'm gonna tell you another story. What's the 774 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: great running back for San Diego caught all those balls? 775 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: Dani and Thomlinson, uh no, the the other one before him, 776 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: and then he went to uh he left San Diego 777 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 1: and went he was a running back for TCU to 778 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: that's that's Thomason No no, the other guy from San 779 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: Diego State. But anyway, he was on NFL network. Anyway, 780 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: we was walking out and I saw him. I said, man, 781 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: what's up? You know we're talking and everything. Great running 782 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,280 Speaker 1: back and my son. He had on some light blue 783 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 1: tennis shoes, some Nikes. I thought it was sweet. My 784 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: son trade. He so out of character, and I said, 785 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: trade meet such such such a great running back. Down 786 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: of the eye. He shook his hand and he looked 787 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: down at the shoes. He said, Daddy, he got on 788 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: some ugly shoes. I don't know about six seven years. 789 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: I said, scuse me, man. He said, it's all right. 790 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: He got his opinion. I like, thank you. Wow, tell 791 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: us I'm trying to think it was another guy running back. 792 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 1: We'll look it up. I'll google it. Can't after I 793 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,279 Speaker 1: ask you guys this question. He played for the La 794 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: Rams running back one Dickerson won the Super Bowl. No 795 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,240 Speaker 1: great running back, man, We'll look it up. Natron means 796 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: google it. What's gonna happen in New York? Is this 797 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: a hands down victory? Does anybody scare you on the 798 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: Giant NA? Man? You know we talked about that on 799 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: our should today. Man, it's just hard to look at 800 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: a team and see this is what where players have 801 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: to have a different mindset. Is uh there? Leonard is 802 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: out number ninety nine. He's out with a bad elbow. 803 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 1: So you got Dexter Lawrence left. You got the A 804 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,839 Speaker 1: Z E E z U linebacker fifty number fifty one 805 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: with seven a half sacks. The next guys is uh 806 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 1: Leonard and he's out. So you got Dexter Lawrence trying 807 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,919 Speaker 1: to hold down the fort. You got a few other 808 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: guys are trying to play number fifty five. I can't 809 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,319 Speaker 1: think of his name. You got there, you you you 810 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,879 Speaker 1: should shuld just beat him, you know, like Jimmy told 811 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: us one time we wanted to play Green Bay, and 812 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: he told me to say, fellas, I ain't even asking 813 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: you to to uh win by a touchdown, but fellas, 814 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: no no penalties, no stupid penalties, and no turnovers, and 815 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 1: we win the game. Whether it's about three points and 816 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: this about one hundred points, that's just go piss and 817 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 1: win the game. He told us that we look and 818 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 1: Hearth Cross and the other guy and Randy uh uh 819 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 1: great guard for the forty nine of them mad. It 820 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 1: was to announce that they were man. They put it 821 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 1: out there on jim Jimmy didn't care. He's like, man, 822 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna beat this team. What do you think Reggie's 823 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: anything scare you about the Giants? Nothing whatsoever, Nothing whatsoever whatsoever. 824 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 1: Nate laid out a great reason why the defense doesn't 825 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: The offense has been sputtering all season. And that was 826 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 1: with the quarterback was Daniel Jones, who was is he's 827 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,919 Speaker 1: not playing correct? Nigga? He got Glennon and then forman yeah, 828 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,839 Speaker 1: I mean Glennon starting yes, yeah, and then the other 829 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 1: kid may get some run. Right, they're talking about giving 830 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,800 Speaker 1: him some stamps. I mean we're talking for I'm second 831 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 1: and third quarterbacks against a team that's been playing very well. 832 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 1: On defense of these Cowboys, there's nothing over there with 833 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 1: the Giants that scares me. So Nate, this may be 834 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: the pharmacy. Chuck Muncie, Nah, man, they won the Super Bowl. Man, 835 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: come on, this is great running a man who won 836 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. M oh, I thought you said the 837 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: charge you did say at San Diego State. Look, look 838 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 1: we gotta get to the brass tax moment of the 839 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,240 Speaker 1: show presented by Liberty Tax. Liberty Tax is a proud 840 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: part of the Dallas Cowboys, joined the team today at 841 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,520 Speaker 1: liberty tax dot Com. Forward slash hiring Reggie will start 842 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 1: with you, what do the Cowboys need to do? We 843 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 1: got a bet a minute and a a half cowboys need 844 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: to do? And what's your score prediction? For entirely different teams? 845 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: So it's not the Chargers to no, no, the guy 846 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 1: that's on TV, the smaller guy, Marshall, fault Marshall. There 847 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: we go. Thank you, my goodness, thank you man executing 848 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 1: the passing game. I mean, if if they can get 849 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: back to hitting these slants, these screens, they're going to 850 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: tear that team up without question. What's your score? I 851 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 1: think that this could be a get right game from them. 852 00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 1: Thirty one fourteens, Mick thirty five seventeen cowboy Boys one point, baby. 853 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 1: Just play just one play penalty free and don't turn 854 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 1: the ball over and win the game. That's it. Just 855 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 1: a penalty free and don't turn the ball over. Because 856 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 1: they've got more guys missing other than Daniel Jones, two 857 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 1: of their top running wide receivers, Darius Tony's out, John 858 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:23,360 Speaker 1: Ross is out, Andrew Thomas, their best offensive tackle, didn't 859 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 1: practice today. So they've got other guys, two cornerbacks out. Uh, 860 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 1: they've got COVID issues like the rest of the league. 861 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Nate, thank you for entertain Yeah what 862 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 1: a guest. Thank you so much, Mickey, thank you for joining. Absolutely, 863 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: they gotta go see Reggie. I'm glad I didn't butcher 864 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 1: your name. Too many times. This has been Dallas Cowboys 865 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,280 Speaker 1: cross Talk in the Nate Newton Show in the Dallas 866 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:53,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys Radio Network. This has been a production of Dallas 867 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,879 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.