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Speaker 2: Ready to be by the Wizard of Weird. This is
Speaker 2: Strange Thing, Josha.
Speaker 4: I am Joshua BE Warren, and each week on this show,
Speaker 4: I'll be bringing you brand new mind loving content, news, exercises,
Speaker 4: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a
Speaker 4: lot more. On this edition of the show, Here's who
Speaker 4: Killed JFK. This is a huge topic. I have tons
Speaker 4: of information. It's intimidating to dig into this. Hopefully I
Speaker 4: can fit in everything that I want to say. And
Speaker 4: before I dive right into it, let me just say
Speaker 4: right up front, I, as you may or may not know,
Speaker 4: am still just examining mountains of data from my recent
Speaker 4: portal opening experiment in the desert using the device I
Speaker 4: invented called the scionotron, And so in the near future
Speaker 4: I will be I will be presenting the story of
Speaker 4: what actually happened out there in the desert. It's just
Speaker 4: taking me some time to put it together. In the meantime,
Speaker 4: he would like to get some little glimpses. Go to
Speaker 4: the website for the project scionotron dot com. That's PSIO
Speaker 4: in it t r N scionotron dot com and you'll
Speaker 4: see some updates there occasionally. Another thing I want to
Speaker 4: say right up front here is that I generally avoid
Speaker 4: talking about topics that I consider political on this show,
Speaker 4: and by that I mean really getting into specific modern
Speaker 4: day politicians, specific actions by parties, the current events, et cetera. However,
Speaker 4: I do think it is perfectly appropriate on a show
Speaker 4: like this for me to go back and talk about
Speaker 4: some things that were more politically charged in the past,
Speaker 4: but actually have more to do with how governments work
Speaker 4: and keep secrets from the people. And of course, when
Speaker 4: it comes to President John F. Kennedy, there has been
Speaker 4: tons of wild speculation as to who assassinated him, why
Speaker 4: he was assassinated, even going back to stories regarding him
Speaker 4: threatening to expose secret societies and UFOs that maybe he
Speaker 4: and his brother even had some pillow talk with Marilyn
Speaker 4: Monroe and that's why all three of them ended up dead.
Speaker 4: I mean, you hear all kinds of wild conspiracies. So
Speaker 4: I think that this topic is it applies to a
Speaker 4: show called Strange Things, because I do have some information
Speaker 4: that I think you may find insightful. I also say
Speaker 4: that I realize people listen to this show all over
Speaker 4: the world, and so if you don't have some basic
Speaker 4: understanding of United States history during the nineteen forties, fifties,
Speaker 4: and sixties, then some of this may seem boring to you.
Speaker 4: If that is the case, then I understand you might
Speaker 4: want to skip this show because I don't have time
Speaker 4: to dig into all the specific historical frameworks here. You
Speaker 4: also probably know that one of my best friends was
Speaker 4: Jim Mars, and Jim Mars wrote a lot of great books.
Speaker 4: His most famous was a book called Crossfire. The Plot
Speaker 4: that Killed Kennedy and Oliver Stone based his epic movie
Speaker 4: JFK in large part on Jim Mars's book Crossfire. Jim
Speaker 4: grew up in the Dallas Fort Worth area. He was
Speaker 4: a crime reporter there at the time of the assassination.
Speaker 4: Jim ended up becoming a profess of journalism. I knew
Speaker 4: him well enough that he would crash at my house
Speaker 4: when he was in North Carolina. I would crash at
Speaker 4: his house in Texas. We did speaking engagements together, we
Speaker 4: did TV shows together, and so I have a special
Speaker 4: degree of insight, perhaps on what may have happened to
Speaker 4: John F. Kennedy because of my friendship with Jem Mars
Speaker 4: in part. But that's not all I'm basing this ONNG
Speaker 4: because I have also done an enormous amount of my
Speaker 4: own independent research over the years. I've been to Dealey
Speaker 4: Plaza where Kennedy was assassinated numerous times. I visited the
Speaker 4: Book Depository Museum. My wife is from Texas, and her
Speaker 4: she had family members who worked in government and the
Speaker 4: oil business and all that kind of stuff. So I
Speaker 4: really am in kind of a special position to have
Speaker 4: maybe more insight than the average person on what happened there.
Speaker 4: Of course, John F. Kennedy was assassinated on November twenty second,
Speaker 4: nineteen sixty three, and he was the thirty sixth I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: thirty fifth president of the United States, youngest one ever
Speaker 4: elected into office, I believe, And here is here is
Speaker 4: in a nutshell how I think that we need to
Speaker 4: view what happened. It really starts with President Eisenhower. Eisenhower
Speaker 4: saying during his farewell address that we should be warned
Speaker 4: about a military industrial complex that had formed in the
Speaker 4: United States primarily because of the deals made in World
Speaker 4: War Two between the government and private weapons suppliers. He
Speaker 4: meant by that was, you know, the government agencies are
Speaker 4: supposed to be accountable to the people, but if you
Speaker 4: if you contract with private companies, then they get protected
Speaker 4: by all these privacy laws and it's easier to keep
Speaker 4: certain secrets, which at the time was considered perfectly acceptable
Speaker 4: due to national security concerns. And when you think about
Speaker 4: all of the money that is made from a war
Speaker 4: like World War Two, I'm not just talking about manufacturers
Speaker 4: of weapons and airplanes and guns, and you know, producers
Speaker 4: of oil. Many of those companies, by the way, were
Speaker 4: based in Texas, many of them. But also we're talking
Speaker 4: about more mundane things it takes to supply that food
Speaker 4: and socks and cigarettes and chewing gum and you know,
Speaker 4: just all it's an incomprehensible network of of money that's
Speaker 4: at stake when there is a war. And so it
Speaker 4: was World War Two that really turned the United States
Speaker 4: into a global superpower. And then of course after that
Speaker 4: things became much more complex. Let me begin by telling
Speaker 4: you that John F. Kennedy had a man who was
Speaker 4: a colonel named L. Fletcher Prouty, who served for He
Speaker 4: served as Chief of Special Operations for the Joint chiefs
Speaker 4: of Staff under President John F. Kennedy. L. L. Fletcher
Speaker 4: Prouty last name spelled pro ou t Y. He was
Speaker 4: born in nineteen seventeen. He died in two thousand and
Speaker 4: one at age eighty four. The guy was born in
Speaker 4: Massachusetts and he was a United States Air Force colonel.
Speaker 4: He retired from military service to become a bank executive,
Speaker 4: and then after that he started going out and talking
Speaker 4: a lot about what went wrong during those years. He
Speaker 4: was a critic of US foreign policy, particularly the covert
Speaker 4: activities of the CIA, the Central Intelligence Agency, which he
Speaker 4: believed was working on behalf of some Second World elite.
Speaker 4: Proudy made some very interesting comments. Nobody doubts his credibility,
Speaker 4: but proud he made some very interesting comments over the
Speaker 4: years about his experience being in the military during the
Speaker 4: time when John F. Kennedy was assassinated. By the way,
Speaker 4: I have to excuse my voice a little bit. I'm
Speaker 4: recording this in the springtime, and so I've got some
Speaker 4: allergy issues. A lot of people have been asking me
Speaker 4: what I think about this whole jfk assassination story, because
Speaker 4: on March eighteenth of twenty twenty five, the National Archives
Speaker 4: released over seventy seven thousand pages of documents related to
Speaker 4: this assassination, and there was an enormous interest, of course,
Speaker 4: but there were no major revelations. While some individuals hope
Speaker 4: for revelations about conspiracies or multiple shooters, the documents largely
Speaker 4: confirm the Warren Commission's conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. However,
Speaker 4: the documents do offer new details about the CIA's intelligence
Speaker 4: operations and the FBI's investigation, and so that who knows.
Speaker 4: By the time you hear this, maybe some of the
Speaker 4: stuff I'm talking about will sort of be outdated or
Speaker 4: overshadowed by new news. But I kind of doubt it,
Speaker 4: as I've had the opinion for a long time that
Speaker 4: I'm going to share with you now, Fletcher Py. Colonel
Speaker 4: Prouty was at the Pentagon in the nineteen sixties and
Speaker 4: one day he said that a general called him into
Speaker 4: his office and told Prouty that Prouty needed to go
Speaker 4: to Antarctica to work on some kind of a nuclear project.
Speaker 4: And proud he said, well, that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4: I don't know anything about the nuclear project. And the
Speaker 4: general said, well, no, you're going, and sent him to Antarctica.
Speaker 4: This is the beginning of a very mysterious chain of events.
Speaker 4: And when we come back from this brig, I'll tell
Speaker 4: you what happened during Colonel Prouty's trip to Antarctica and back,
Speaker 4: and this will start giving you insight perhaps into what
Speaker 4: forces where it were to assassinate John F. Kennedy, and
Speaker 4: not just forces. I'm going to get into some specific names. Hey,
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Speaker 4: a Gietato zume So. Colonel Proudy says that he is
Speaker 4: sort of well inexplicably set down to Antarctica, and he
Speaker 4: said it didn't make any sense because when he got
Speaker 4: down there, he really didn't have anything useful to contribute.
Speaker 4: It was curious. Well, I'm not sure how long you
Speaker 4: was down there, but he was traveling back from Antarctica
Speaker 4: by way of New Zealand, and one morning he was
Speaker 4: sitting in a cafe with a couple of associates and
Speaker 4: they heard on the loud speaker that John F. Kennedy
Speaker 4: had been assassinated, and of course everybody was shocked. He
Speaker 4: was able to get his hands on a New Zealand
Speaker 4: newspaper pretty quickly, and he said that it was amazing
Speaker 4: seeing how much information there was. There was a huge
Speaker 4: spread in this newspaper. It was about Oswald with a
Speaker 4: pick of Oswald standing there with his gun and his
Speaker 4: manifesto and all the details about how Oswald had done this,
Speaker 4: and it just seemed like case closed. And he thought,
Speaker 4: how did they get this much information this quickly about
Speaker 4: this completely unexpected event, And right off the bat, he
Speaker 4: said it reminded him of some of these intel operations
Speaker 4: that he had witnessed during World War Two. And he
Speaker 4: even said that if you started looking at the time zones,
Speaker 4: that it looked to him like this information in the
Speaker 4: paper may have been printed in New Zealand before the
Speaker 4: assassination even happened. This is what really sent a cold
Speaker 4: chill down his spine. Then it was like this whole thing,
Speaker 4: this media campaign, was already prepared. And when he got
Speaker 4: back to Washington, he quickly realized that he was not
Speaker 4: the only military person who was given these wild assignments
Speaker 4: out of the country during the period of the assassination.
Speaker 4: A lot of people in the military, especially those close
Speaker 4: to John F. Kennedy and his administration, were sent on
Speaker 4: what you might think of as fool's errands. They were
Speaker 4: just like somebody was trying to get them out of
Speaker 4: the picture during this period of time, and then he
Speaker 4: started thinking about who had an interest in orchestrating such
Speaker 4: a thing and who had the power to cover up
Speaker 4: exactly what had happened. And Colonel Prowdy said, in nineteen
Speaker 4: forty five, before everybody knew about this top secret thing
Speaker 4: called the atomic bomb, that they had been planning, the
Speaker 4: US military had been planning a gigantic ground invasion of
Speaker 4: Japan because the Japanese emperor was saying, we're not going
Speaker 4: to surrender. We're not going to surrender, and so, you know,
Speaker 4: without knowing about a bomb, and maybe you know, and
Speaker 4: I guess they weren't even sure the bomb was going
Speaker 4: to work. They had already created these incredible contracts with
Speaker 4: all of these military suppliers, again many of them in
Speaker 4: Texas are rooted financially in Texas, and they were ready
Speaker 4: to go, and you know, they were going to make
Speaker 4: a lot of money by invading Japan. And then all
Speaker 4: of a sudden that wasn't necessary because the bomb was
Speaker 4: dropped and so Japan surrendered, no need for all these
Speaker 4: weapons resources to be used, and so these contractors they said, way,
Speaker 4: we got to we got to do something here in
Speaker 4: order to utilize these weapons that we've created and get
Speaker 4: paid for them. So they came up with a plan.
Speaker 4: They almost immediately in nineteen forty five started sending most
Speaker 4: of those supplies to a country called Vietnam, and the
Speaker 4: war there would begin. Oh it would take, you know,
Speaker 4: around twenty years later for the war there to begin.
Speaker 4: But it seemed like, according to Prouty, they were already
Speaker 4: planning it around nineteen forty five forty six to do
Speaker 4: something with all these weapons. And because all these military
Speaker 4: contractors were twiddling their thumbs saying, come on, when are
Speaker 4: we going to move on this and when are we
Speaker 4: going to get all the contracts fulfilled, they started working
Speaker 4: their way toward it. With the Korean War, et cetera.
Speaker 4: Proud He said, there was incredible pressure for us to
Speaker 4: fulfill these contracts from the military industrial complex in one
Speaker 4: way or another. Many politicians were funded by these military contractors.
Speaker 4: The communist threat was pushed really hard and escalated into
Speaker 4: the Cold War, which was all about driving that war machine.
Speaker 4: And because of John F. Kennedy's status as a war
Speaker 4: hero in World War Two, at first there was a
Speaker 4: lot of confidence that John F. Kennedy would go along
Speaker 4: with this plan and shift those resources over to Vietnam
Speaker 4: so that they could invade there. And at first JFK
Speaker 4: was kind of on board with this communist threat because
Speaker 4: of Cuba being so close to the United States and
Speaker 4: Cuba was working with the Russians, and it seemed very
Speaker 4: threatening that, you know, Vietnam's along long ways off, but
Speaker 4: Cuba is right there off the coast of Florida. You
Speaker 4: can't have that. And so when Kennedy decided that this
Speaker 4: thing called the Bay of Pigs invasion should take place,
Speaker 4: big military operation to go in and help overthrow the
Speaker 4: Cuban government, the contractors were happy. But that project became
Speaker 4: a huge failure and everybody was surprised, and that kind
Speaker 4: of killed a lot of the momentum that JFK had
Speaker 4: for pushing this agenda into defeating the communists in the
Speaker 4: Vietnam region. And so JFK was not sold on escalating
Speaker 4: things into this bigger war in Vietnam. And this became
Speaker 4: a big, big problem for all of these inconceivably wealthy
Speaker 4: people and companies that had all this money invested in
Speaker 4: going to war. And again, many of these military contractors
Speaker 4: were in Texas, even the Warren Commission talked about there
Speaker 4: being a conspiracy regarding Oswald being a communist sympathizer and
Speaker 4: going to Russia and then getting involved with Cuba and
Speaker 4: all that. So it's sort of like, you know, everybody
Speaker 4: agrees there was some kind of a conspiracy here. The
Speaker 4: question is whose conspiracy do you believe. Nobody says Oswald
Speaker 4: just woke up that morning and decided to go do
Speaker 4: this spontaneously, So whose conspiracy do you want to believe? Now?
Speaker 4: Around this time, it is now a matter of public
Speaker 4: record that some agencies in our government were indeed working
Speaker 4: with mafia assassins in New York and Chicago to possibly
Speaker 4: go after Castro. That was one thing that they had discussed.
Speaker 4: So there was a relationship there. And I don't want
Speaker 4: to point any direct fingers here and cast dispersions on
Speaker 4: any particular age, but I think you can put some
Speaker 4: pieces together yourself and look at the candidates. And there
Speaker 4: are some people who believe that well, assassins who work
Speaker 4: for the United States would have been brought in from
Speaker 4: other countries, but that doesn't actually make sense because it's
Speaker 4: better for you to utilize an assassin from your own country,
Speaker 4: because when you do that you have a lot more
Speaker 4: control and power over them if they go off the rails.
Speaker 4: If you have some assassin from another country come here
Speaker 4: and do something to go back to his country and
Speaker 4: start bragging about it at a bar, you might not
Speaker 4: be able to do as much about it, much less
Speaker 4: control over farmers. And so there was this there was
Speaker 4: this code of silence obviously among the people in the
Speaker 4: mafia La Cosa and Nostra, and it was so well known.
Speaker 4: I mean, Robert F. Kennedy, the President's brother, the Attorney General,
Speaker 4: called it murder in corporate and of course he ended
Speaker 4: up assassinated as well. So I think you see the
Speaker 4: very clear motivation when there's this much money involved. So
Speaker 4: let's say that's the most logical reason why that Kennedy
Speaker 4: had to go, because he and his brother really were
Speaker 4: standing in the way of what would become this war
Speaker 4: in Vietnam that we are all confused about to this day,
Speaker 4: like why was it necessary to go do that? Now,
Speaker 4: when you go to Dealey Plaza, it's very interesting because
Speaker 4: you can go up to the window that they say
Speaker 4: that Oswald was at when he was shooting at Kennedy,
Speaker 4: and the Warren Commission says that Oswald. He had this cheap, clumsy,
Speaker 4: bolt action Italian rifle called a man Carkano. It jams easily,
Speaker 4: and somehow he was able to fire three shots between
Speaker 4: five and eight seconds on this thing, and obviously with
Speaker 4: incredible accuracy. When I was at jim Mars House, he
Speaker 4: had one of these bolt action rifles, a man Liquer Carkano,
Speaker 4: exactly like the one that was used to kill JFK.
Speaker 4: And he let me shoot his. It wasn't live, it
Speaker 4: wasn't live, but he was like, see if you could
Speaker 4: operate this gun and knock off that many shots in
Speaker 4: that period of time. I couldn't do it, and Lauren
Speaker 4: couldn't do it, certainly, not accurately. One thing that's even
Speaker 4: weirder is that when you're standing at that window and
Speaker 4: you're looking at the root the president took, there are
Speaker 4: a number of things that don't make sense. And when
Speaker 4: we come back from this break, I'll tell you what
Speaker 4: I mean by that. I bet there's something that you've
Speaker 4: never heard before that I'm going to share with you.
Speaker 4: And this is one of those things that really makes
Speaker 4: you believe that efforts were taken to conceal the shots
Speaker 4: and the shooters, and I said shooters that day. I'm
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Speaker 4: and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual.
Speaker 4: When you are looking out that window on the sixth
Speaker 4: floor of the Texas school Book depositortory, the one where
Speaker 4: where Oswald they say, was stationed with his rifle. You're
Speaker 4: looking kind of straight down this long street called Houston Street,
Speaker 4: and so the president's motorcade was slowly, I mean somewhat slowly,
Speaker 4: rather slow, driving toward Oswald coming up Houston Street. So
Speaker 4: the target would have been getting bigger and bigger and
Speaker 4: bigger from Oswald's point of view. And yet that's not
Speaker 4: when the shots happened. Once they got right outside the
Speaker 4: school book Depository, Kennedy's car took a left down Elbe Street,
Speaker 4: which from Oswald's point of view was to the right.
Speaker 4: And after that that meant his target was driving away
Speaker 4: and getting smaller and smaller and smaller. And so only
Speaker 4: then did he supposedly decide to start shooting. Why would
Speaker 4: he do that? Well, you might say maybe he had
Speaker 4: cold feet and he just delayed for a bit. Okay, fine,
Speaker 4: But you know what, when he was looking in that direction,
Speaker 4: there were also tree branches that were hanging there, which
Speaker 4: would have made it even more difficult for him to
Speaker 4: achieve those shots. But here's the thing that blew my mind.
Speaker 4: One time I was at Jim Marris House, and the
Speaker 4: two of us were sitting in his study, and he
Speaker 4: had the kind of study that you would imagine, you know,
Speaker 4: tons of books and files, and he said, I want
Speaker 4: to show you something. So because that Jim was working
Speaker 4: as as a crime reporter there in the Dallas Fort
Speaker 4: Worth area, and Jim actually knew Jack Ruby. By the way,
Speaker 4: Jack Ruby, we'll get into him maybe a little bit
Speaker 4: more later, but Jack Ruby was the guy who ended
Speaker 4: up killing Oswald. And Jack Ruby knew a lot of
Speaker 4: people in the area because he owned a strip club
Speaker 4: and was into a lot of CD things and dark
Speaker 4: backroom deals. And so Jim said, he said, I want
Speaker 4: to show you a picture. He showed me a picture,
Speaker 4: and I'm not sure if it was one that he
Speaker 4: took or one of his colleagues took. Right then, as
Speaker 4: soon as they would, let reporters go to the window
Speaker 4: where Oswald was, and there was this big, giant black
Speaker 4: pipe running from the ceiling to the floor that blocked
Speaker 4: about a third of that window, which would have made
Speaker 4: it almost impossible for Oswald to maneuver his rifle to
Speaker 4: get that angle to hit Kennedy. And yet that pipe
Speaker 4: is no longer there where did it go, Who removed it?
Speaker 4: When was it removed? Apparently Oswald was involved. But when
Speaker 4: you actually walk down and you stand at the spot
Speaker 4: in the road, I think there's an X or something
Speaker 4: where Kennedy was shot, where he got the head shot.
Speaker 2: The logical place.
Speaker 4: It seems like that shot would have come from is
Speaker 4: the Grassy Knoll. All right, so who did this?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: In the nineteen nineties, Jim Mahers interviewed a very interesting
Speaker 4: fellow who was in prison named James Files. James Files
Speaker 4: was born in nineteen forty two and he was serving
Speaker 4: a fifty year prison sentence for the attempted murders of
Speaker 4: two police officers, and Files told Jim Marris and other
Speaker 4: people that he was the gunman on the Grassy Knoll
Speaker 4: who actually shot President Kennedy in the head. And his
Speaker 4: story was that at that time, one of the gangsters
Speaker 4: that certain people in the government was working with to
Speaker 4: consider how to assassinate Castro was a man named Sam
Speaker 4: g and Conna, and Sam g and Conna was the
Speaker 4: boss of the Chicago Outfit from nineteen fifty seven to
Speaker 4: nineteen sixty six. The boss of the Chicago Outfit, he
Speaker 4: ended up being assassinated when he was sixty seven years old.
Speaker 4: Somebody came into his house. I believe in or no,
Speaker 4: let's see, yeah, I think somebody came into his house
Speaker 4: and shot him in the back of the head. But anyway,
Speaker 4: Sam g and Conna was the big boss there, but
Speaker 4: his main assassin, the guy who worked for Sam g
Speaker 4: and Conna was a man named Charles Nicoletti Chucky, the
Speaker 4: typewriter mobster of the Chicago outfit who served as hit
Speaker 4: man under boss Sam g and Coanna before and after
Speaker 4: g and Conna's rise and fall. Turns out, Nicoletti would
Speaker 4: also end up getting murdered. Somebody shot him in the
Speaker 4: head I think when he was in the car at
Speaker 4: a restaurant parking lot. But anyway, this guy James Files
Speaker 4: and I don't have time to get into the whole story.
Speaker 4: You can go and go to YouTube and hear him
Speaker 4: tell his story on a number on a number of channels.
Speaker 4: He ended up working for Charles Nicoletti. So you had
Speaker 4: Sam g and Kanna the boss. You had Charles Nicoletti,
Speaker 4: who was a bonafide assassin, bona fide hip man. There's
Speaker 4: no telling how many people that he killed with his
Speaker 4: own hands, and then James Files would work for Charles
Speaker 4: Nicoletti on various projects. You know, it could be anything
Speaker 4: from killing somebody to trying to smuggle weapons or embezzel
Speaker 4: money or whatever. And according to James Files, sam Gy
Speaker 4: and Kanna put Charles Nicoletti in charge of going down
Speaker 4: there and preparing to shoot John F. Kennedy that day,
Speaker 4: and that Charles Nicoletti was the one who was supposed
Speaker 4: to be doing, you know, to deliver the death shot.
Speaker 4: But it turns out that that Charles Nicoletti said, if
Speaker 4: at the last moment, we're gonna if we position you
Speaker 4: over here by this grassy knoll, by the railroad tracks
Speaker 4: or whatever, at the last moment, if he doesn't have
Speaker 4: a head shot, can you shoot him in the head
Speaker 4: because we need to get a headshot. So if I
Speaker 4: don't get the head shot, can you get a headshot
Speaker 4: in And James Files says sure, he would do that.
Speaker 4: So he brought this long pistol called a Remington Fireball
Speaker 4: XP one hundred, which wasn't even in mass production at
Speaker 4: the time, but was available to people on the inside.
Speaker 4: And so he said that he was on the grassy
Speaker 4: knoll that Charles Nicoletti was. He wasn't sure where Charles
Speaker 4: Nicoletty was, but he said that Charles Nicoletty was shooting
Speaker 4: from the back, but at the last minute there was
Speaker 4: no headshot, and so James Files said that he took
Speaker 4: the shot and he's the one who hit Kennedy in
Speaker 4: the head. And James Files said that he had been
Speaker 4: working with Oswald and they were preparing a lot of
Speaker 4: these scenarios and talking about, you know, the best ways
Speaker 4: to take out JFK. But he said that Oswald took
Speaker 4: no shots at JFK. That Oswald after they arrested him,
Speaker 4: he basically passed a paraffin test, which tests for gunpowder.
Speaker 4: He had some residue on his hands from handling shells
Speaker 4: beforehand when they're practicing shooting. But if it wasn't Nicoletti,
Speaker 4: File says, at least another mafia man was there taking
Speaker 4: shots at JFK from behind during the assassination. You have
Speaker 4: to go to YouTube and watch James Files James Earl
Speaker 4: Files last name elf F I L E s if
Speaker 4: you want to see more of this information for yourself,
Speaker 4: and hear it straight from his mouth, and you know what,
Speaker 4: the crazy thing is the guy, like I say, he
Speaker 4: was serving a fifty year prison sentence. I believe, I
Speaker 4: believe he's still alive at the age of about ab
Speaker 4: about eighty three years old now, and so at its
Speaker 4: I kind of oppress event if you will. Oswald was
Speaker 4: claiming that he was just a patsy for the whole thing,
Speaker 4: that he was a scapegoat, and then he was quickly
Speaker 4: assassinated by Jack Ruby, and Jack he was dying of cancer,
Speaker 4: and many say that he was picked for that job
Speaker 4: because he entertained mobsters and Texas businessman at his strip club,
Speaker 4: and they assured him that his family would be taking
Speaker 4: care of after his impending death. So, in a nutshell,
Speaker 4: it's really not that hard to figure out what has
Speaker 4: happened here if you look at the facts and retrospect,
Speaker 4: you just use plain logic, and it's kind of a duh.
Speaker 4: A bunch of rich guys in Texas were invested in
Speaker 4: weapons factories. JFK's vice president, Lyndon B. Johnson, was also
Speaker 4: from Texas. The rich weapons guys in Texas hired the
Speaker 4: mob to kill JFK and Texas. Some people in the
Speaker 4: government knew about it and didn't stop it, and as
Speaker 4: soon as Lyndon B. Johnson became pre we went hard
Speaker 4: into Vietnam and fulfilled many of those outstanding weapons contracts,
Speaker 4: especially from Texas. And to this day, we don't really
Speaker 4: understand why we should have gone into Vietnam and waged
Speaker 4: that war logically and amazingly. A man like Lyndon B. Johnson,
Speaker 4: who loved being a politician, decided not to run for
Speaker 4: his final term as president. That's because he was scared.
Speaker 4: He realized what could happen to him if he decided
Speaker 4: he didn't want to play along anymore, just like j
Speaker 4: f KA. When we come back from this break, I'm
Speaker 4: going to give you some final thoughts on this, and
Speaker 4: then I may even have time to squeeze in a
Speaker 4: listener email or two. Trust me, i could talk to
Speaker 4: you for hours about this, but I've been doing my
Speaker 4: best to condense it down. I'm Joshua pe Warren. You're
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the final segment. I love this edition
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Speaker 4: and I asked Jim Mars if he believed James Files.
Speaker 5: And Jim said.
Speaker 4: That he wasn't quite sure. Jim's Jim was a lifelong
Speaker 4: a lifelong journalist and interviewer, and he said he never
Speaker 4: could quite get a bead on the fell. I thought
Speaker 4: that was interesting. I'm just giving you my opinion.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 4: I believe that James Files is still alive. And if
Speaker 4: you go and look up what it says about him
Speaker 4: on Wikipedia born in Alabama, January twenty fourth, nineteen forty two,
Speaker 4: it says Files. Files has subsequently been interviewed by others
Speaker 4: and discussed in multiple books pertaining to the assassination. In
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety four, the Federal Bureau of Investigation was quoted
Speaker 4: as having investigated files allocations and found it to be
Speaker 4: not credible. Says the FBI, and then also the other
Speaker 4: critical analysis. Vincent Bugliosi, author of Reclaiming History the assassination
Speaker 4: of President John F. Kennedy, characterized Files as the Rodney
Speaker 4: Dangerfield of Kennedy assassins, which whatever that means, and then
Speaker 4: Bugliosi went on to say that very few within the
Speaker 4: majority of Americans believe there was a conspiracy m h Okay. However,
Speaker 4: conspiracy author Jerome Croft described Files as a quote surprisingly
Speaker 4: credible person and said his story is the most believable
Speaker 4: and persuasive about the assassination. Look, I'm giving you my
Speaker 4: opinion here once again, and I want to clarify something
Speaker 4: as well for you. I know that there are lots
Speaker 4: of people out there, just like Jim Mars, who have
Speaker 4: devoted their entire lives to this subject. And I am
Speaker 4: not proclaiming to be anywhere close to a Kennedy assassination expert.
Speaker 4: I'm just an amateur who has been very interested in
Speaker 4: the mystery most of my life. So for those of
Speaker 4: you who are really hardcore into this, I want you
Speaker 4: to understand this is not actually a conspiracy show. This
Speaker 4: is kind of a special edition of strange things. I
Speaker 4: don't usually dig into deep conspiracy stuff, so please do
Speaker 4: not email me with your thoughts and theories and you
Speaker 4: want to get into arguments and debates and split hairs
Speaker 4: and tell me why that I'm wrong and all that.
Speaker 4: It's not going to do any good. I'm not even
Speaker 4: going to take the time to read it. I'm just
Speaker 4: giving you my opinion based upon what I've seen, what
Speaker 4: I think is most likely the logical case. And once again,
Speaker 4: maybe new material will come to light that will completely
Speaker 4: make everything I've said somehow irrelevant. But I kind of
Speaker 4: doubt it because after all these years, I don't think
Speaker 4: we're going to find anybody who comes out and says
Speaker 4: I did it who hasn't already said that he did it,
Speaker 4: no living person. And I also don't think that that
Speaker 4: the files are going to contain that kind of information
Speaker 4: like case files where you pull out a piece of
Speaker 4: paper and somebody says, oh, here's who did it sign
Speaker 4: off on it? How are you going to know if
Speaker 4: that's a real document or if that person knew what
Speaker 4: he or she was talking about. Uh So, I don't
Speaker 4: think we're going to get any kind of a satisfactory
Speaker 4: smoking gun until we have a time machine. Maybe we
Speaker 4: can go back and review what happened. This whole story
Speaker 4: is too much and this is just a podcast. So again,
Speaker 4: I do recommend that you go back and read some
Speaker 4: of Jim Mars's books. So will these latest files that
Speaker 4: are being released specify anything more than what I've given
Speaker 4: you here?
Speaker 5: I doubt it.
Speaker 4: People don't write these kinds of things down and record them.
Speaker 4: But here's something important to remember in general when it
Speaker 4: comes to conspiracies, and there are real conspiracies. People get
Speaker 4: convicted of conspiracy every day in courts of law, and
Speaker 4: people will conspire to keep this some of the most
Speaker 4: inconsequential things secret, like Bill Clinton, for example, what happened
Speaker 4: in his oval office. I think I'll say no more
Speaker 4: about that, but that was a conspiracy to cover up
Speaker 4: something of that size. But here's the general rule for
Speaker 4: how to try to keep a conspiracy to cover up truth.
Speaker 4: What you do. You can't keep something a secret because
Speaker 4: people are just going to talk. That's that's natural. I
Speaker 4: think it was Ben Franklin who said two can keep
Speaker 4: a secret if one is dead. People are going to talk.
Speaker 4: So the only thing you can do to combat it
Speaker 4: is to put out ten different versions of the truth.
Speaker 4: And then people they finally get confused and exhausted and
Speaker 4: they just give up. They stop trying to figure it out.
Speaker 4: That's how this process works, and that's why that you
Speaker 4: have to reach a point where you just have to
Speaker 4: use your own sense of logic connecting A to B,
Speaker 4: two C to D and look at your own resources
Speaker 4: and draw your own conclusions. So again that's my opinion,
Speaker 4: and I hope you've enjoyed hearing me tell you what
Speaker 4: I think after so many years of being friends with
Speaker 4: the late great jem Mars and digging into it as
Speaker 4: deeply as I have. Let me see if I can
Speaker 4: squeeze in an email or two. How about this first off?
Speaker 4: You know, I own, I created, I own, I manage
Speaker 4: the Haunted Ashville Ghost Tours in Asheville, North Carolina. And uh,
Speaker 4: it's been you know, it's like it's the original, the oldest.
Speaker 4: We have just fantastic reviews. We've been around twenty five years.
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Speaker 4: That's pretty amazing. And recently, you know, I've always thought
Speaker 4: that I want to surprise locals. That's my goal. If
Speaker 4: you're a local and you come on one of the tours,
Speaker 4: I want you to learn things that you don't even
Speaker 4: know about. And I have a fella hero named Chaz
Speaker 4: who is He is a friend. I must say that,
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Speaker 4: Mob Podcast, and I wanted to share with you what
Speaker 4: he recently wrote about taking the Haunted Boulder City Ghost
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Speaker 4: up in Las Vegas, I thought I knew about Boulder City,
Speaker 4: but I had no idea. Our tour guide, Zultar, could
Speaker 4: not have been nicer, and his knowledge just blew us away.
Speaker 4: Hearing the tales of ghosts seen at the Boulder Damn
Speaker 4: and strange activity and many of the downtown businesses had
Speaker 4: us all looking over our shoulders during the tour. I
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Speaker 4: of history and want to get some steps in. Don't
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Speaker 5: That great.
Speaker 4: Thank you for that, Chaz. That's Haunted bouldercity dot com.
Speaker 4: So if you're at Ashville, go to Hauntedashville dot com.
Speaker 4: Or Boulder City outside of Las Vegas, go to Haunted
Speaker 4: bouldercity dot com. Let me see if I can squeeze
Speaker 4: in one or two more emails. You know, I told
Speaker 4: you soon I'm going to be talking about what happened
Speaker 4: when I did my portal opening experiment. One guy named
Speaker 4: Jason says, I was one of the very few people
Speaker 4: who ask you not to go through with your plan
Speaker 4: to open a portal in response to your podcast rest
Speaker 4: that question. While listening to one of your recent podcasts,
Speaker 4: I heard your follow up report about whether you will
Speaker 4: decide to go through it or not, and I got
Speaker 4: a heck of a kick saying. Hearing you say there
Speaker 4: were only a couple people who advised against it. That
Speaker 4: surprised me to hear, and it was great. I found
Speaker 4: it to be hilarious to hear that I was nearly
Speaker 4: the only one out of hundreds of responses to say,
Speaker 4: don't do it. I've always been odd anyway. I wish
Speaker 4: you great success, and who knows, it may turn into
Speaker 4: the grandest discovery since man learned how to use fire.
Speaker 4: Thanks for everything you do. May you be successful. Thank
Speaker 4: you for that, Jason, And let me reassure you, my friend,
Speaker 4: it was a success. It has all been good. My
Speaker 4: head is still spinning, so I'm not sure if it's
Speaker 4: going to be in the next edition of the show
Speaker 4: or the one after that, where I'm going to start
Speaker 4: at the beginning and try to tell the whole story.
Speaker 4: I am going through footage from over ten different cameras.
Speaker 4: I don't even know how many instruments that we had there.
Speaker 4: So stay tuned. It's going to be a good one,
Speaker 4: my folks's friends. It's the Scionotron Show, the Portal opening show,
Speaker 4: all right, looks like the Clocks about Goddess. So you
Speaker 4: know how we're going to end. If you can take
Speaker 4: a deep breath and close your eyes and enjoy the
Speaker 4: good fortune tone, that's it for this edition of the show.
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