1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: Joshua P. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: Warre. 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 11 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: Ready to be by the Wizard of Weird. This is 12 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: Strange Thing, Josha. 13 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 4: I am Joshua BE Warren, and each week on this show, 14 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 4: I'll be bringing you brand new mind loving content, news, exercises, 15 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 4: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a 16 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 4: lot more. On this edition of the show, Here's who 17 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 4: Killed JFK. This is a huge topic. I have tons 18 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: of information. It's intimidating to dig into this. Hopefully I 19 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 4: can fit in everything that I want to say. And 20 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 4: before I dive right into it, let me just say 21 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 4: right up front, I, as you may or may not know, 22 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: am still just examining mountains of data from my recent 23 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 4: portal opening experiment in the desert using the device I 24 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: invented called the scionotron, And so in the near future 25 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: I will be I will be presenting the story of 26 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 4: what actually happened out there in the desert. It's just 27 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 4: taking me some time to put it together. In the meantime, 28 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 4: he would like to get some little glimpses. Go to 29 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 4: the website for the project scionotron dot com. That's PSIO 30 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: in it t r N scionotron dot com and you'll 31 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 4: see some updates there occasionally. Another thing I want to 32 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: say right up front here is that I generally avoid 33 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 4: talking about topics that I consider political on this show, 34 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 4: and by that I mean really getting into specific modern 35 00:02:53,760 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 4: day politicians, specific actions by parties, the current events, et cetera. However, 36 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 4: I do think it is perfectly appropriate on a show 37 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 4: like this for me to go back and talk about 38 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 4: some things that were more politically charged in the past, 39 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 4: but actually have more to do with how governments work 40 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: and keep secrets from the people. And of course, when 41 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 4: it comes to President John F. Kennedy, there has been 42 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 4: tons of wild speculation as to who assassinated him, why 43 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 4: he was assassinated, even going back to stories regarding him 44 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: threatening to expose secret societies and UFOs that maybe he 45 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 4: and his brother even had some pillow talk with Marilyn 46 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 4: Monroe and that's why all three of them ended up dead. 47 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: I mean, you hear all kinds of wild conspiracies. So 48 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: I think that this topic is it applies to a 49 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 4: show called Strange Things, because I do have some information 50 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: that I think you may find insightful. I also say 51 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 4: that I realize people listen to this show all over 52 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 4: the world, and so if you don't have some basic 53 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 4: understanding of United States history during the nineteen forties, fifties, 54 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: and sixties, then some of this may seem boring to you. 55 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: If that is the case, then I understand you might 56 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 4: want to skip this show because I don't have time 57 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 4: to dig into all the specific historical frameworks here. You 58 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 4: also probably know that one of my best friends was 59 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: Jim Mars, and Jim Mars wrote a lot of great books. 60 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,119 Speaker 4: His most famous was a book called Crossfire. The Plot 61 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 4: that Killed Kennedy and Oliver Stone based his epic movie 62 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: JFK in large part on Jim Mars's book Crossfire. Jim 63 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 4: grew up in the Dallas Fort Worth area. He was 64 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 4: a crime reporter there at the time of the assassination. 65 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: Jim ended up becoming a profess of journalism. I knew 66 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: him well enough that he would crash at my house 67 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: when he was in North Carolina. I would crash at 68 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: his house in Texas. We did speaking engagements together, we 69 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 4: did TV shows together, and so I have a special 70 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 4: degree of insight, perhaps on what may have happened to 71 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 4: John F. Kennedy because of my friendship with Jem Mars 72 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: in part. But that's not all I'm basing this ONNG 73 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 4: because I have also done an enormous amount of my 74 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 4: own independent research over the years. I've been to Dealey 75 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 4: Plaza where Kennedy was assassinated numerous times. I visited the 76 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 4: Book Depository Museum. My wife is from Texas, and her 77 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 4: she had family members who worked in government and the 78 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: oil business and all that kind of stuff. So I 79 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 4: really am in kind of a special position to have 80 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 4: maybe more insight than the average person on what happened there. 81 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 4: Of course, John F. Kennedy was assassinated on November twenty second, 82 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 4: nineteen sixty three, and he was the thirty sixth I'm sorry, 83 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 4: thirty fifth president of the United States, youngest one ever 84 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 4: elected into office, I believe, And here is here is 85 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 4: in a nutshell how I think that we need to 86 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 4: view what happened. It really starts with President Eisenhower. Eisenhower 87 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 4: saying during his farewell address that we should be warned 88 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 4: about a military industrial complex that had formed in the 89 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: United States primarily because of the deals made in World 90 00:06:54,480 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 4: War Two between the government and private weapons suppliers. He 91 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 4: meant by that was, you know, the government agencies are 92 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 4: supposed to be accountable to the people, but if you 93 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: if you contract with private companies, then they get protected 94 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: by all these privacy laws and it's easier to keep 95 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: certain secrets, which at the time was considered perfectly acceptable 96 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 4: due to national security concerns. And when you think about 97 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 4: all of the money that is made from a war 98 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: like World War Two, I'm not just talking about manufacturers 99 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 4: of weapons and airplanes and guns, and you know, producers 100 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 4: of oil. Many of those companies, by the way, were 101 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 4: based in Texas, many of them. But also we're talking 102 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 4: about more mundane things it takes to supply that food 103 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 4: and socks and cigarettes and chewing gum and you know, 104 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 4: just all it's an incomprehensible network of of money that's 105 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: at stake when there is a war. And so it 106 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 4: was World War Two that really turned the United States 107 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 4: into a global superpower. And then of course after that 108 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 4: things became much more complex. Let me begin by telling 109 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 4: you that John F. Kennedy had a man who was 110 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 4: a colonel named L. Fletcher Prouty, who served for He 111 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: served as Chief of Special Operations for the Joint chiefs 112 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 4: of Staff under President John F. Kennedy. L. L. Fletcher 113 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 4: Prouty last name spelled pro ou t Y. He was 114 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 4: born in nineteen seventeen. He died in two thousand and 115 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 4: one at age eighty four. The guy was born in 116 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: Massachusetts and he was a United States Air Force colonel. 117 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: He retired from military service to become a bank executive, 118 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: and then after that he started going out and talking 119 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 4: a lot about what went wrong during those years. He 120 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 4: was a critic of US foreign policy, particularly the covert 121 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 4: activities of the CIA, the Central Intelligence Agency, which he 122 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 4: believed was working on behalf of some Second World elite. 123 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 4: Proudy made some very interesting comments. Nobody doubts his credibility, 124 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 4: but proud he made some very interesting comments over the 125 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 4: years about his experience being in the military during the 126 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 4: time when John F. Kennedy was assassinated. By the way, 127 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: I have to excuse my voice a little bit. I'm 128 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 4: recording this in the springtime, and so I've got some 129 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 4: allergy issues. A lot of people have been asking me 130 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 4: what I think about this whole jfk assassination story, because 131 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 4: on March eighteenth of twenty twenty five, the National Archives 132 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: released over seventy seven thousand pages of documents related to 133 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: this assassination, and there was an enormous interest, of course, 134 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 4: but there were no major revelations. While some individuals hope 135 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 4: for revelations about conspiracies or multiple shooters, the documents largely 136 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: confirm the Warren Commission's conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. However, 137 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: the documents do offer new details about the CIA's intelligence 138 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 4: operations and the FBI's investigation, and so that who knows. 139 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 4: By the time you hear this, maybe some of the 140 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: stuff I'm talking about will sort of be outdated or 141 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 4: overshadowed by new news. But I kind of doubt it, 142 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: as I've had the opinion for a long time that 143 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 4: I'm going to share with you now, Fletcher Py. Colonel 144 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 4: Prouty was at the Pentagon in the nineteen sixties and 145 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 4: one day he said that a general called him into 146 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 4: his office and told Prouty that Prouty needed to go 147 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: to Antarctica to work on some kind of a nuclear project. 148 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: And proud he said, well, that doesn't make any sense. 149 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: I don't know anything about the nuclear project. And the 150 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: general said, well, no, you're going, and sent him to Antarctica. 151 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: This is the beginning of a very mysterious chain of events. 152 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 4: And when we come back from this brig, I'll tell 153 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: you what happened during Colonel Prouty's trip to Antarctica and back, 154 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 4: and this will start giving you insight perhaps into what 155 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 4: forces where it were to assassinate John F. Kennedy, and 156 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 4: not just forces. I'm going to get into some specific names. Hey, 157 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 4: it's a free show. 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Warren, beaming into your 186 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: wormhole brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, NEV. 187 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: Where every day is golden and every night at silver 188 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 4: a Gietato zume So. Colonel Proudy says that he is 189 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 4: sort of well inexplicably set down to Antarctica, and he 190 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 4: said it didn't make any sense because when he got 191 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: down there, he really didn't have anything useful to contribute. 192 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 4: It was curious. Well, I'm not sure how long you 193 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 4: was down there, but he was traveling back from Antarctica 194 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 4: by way of New Zealand, and one morning he was 195 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 4: sitting in a cafe with a couple of associates and 196 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 4: they heard on the loud speaker that John F. Kennedy 197 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 4: had been assassinated, and of course everybody was shocked. He 198 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 4: was able to get his hands on a New Zealand 199 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 4: newspaper pretty quickly, and he said that it was amazing 200 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 4: seeing how much information there was. There was a huge 201 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: spread in this newspaper. It was about Oswald with a 202 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 4: pick of Oswald standing there with his gun and his 203 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 4: manifesto and all the details about how Oswald had done this, 204 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 4: and it just seemed like case closed. And he thought, 205 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 4: how did they get this much information this quickly about 206 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 4: this completely unexpected event, And right off the bat, he 207 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 4: said it reminded him of some of these intel operations 208 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 4: that he had witnessed during World War Two. And he 209 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 4: even said that if you started looking at the time zones, 210 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: that it looked to him like this information in the 211 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 4: paper may have been printed in New Zealand before the 212 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 4: assassination even happened. This is what really sent a cold 213 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 4: chill down his spine. Then it was like this whole thing, 214 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 4: this media campaign, was already prepared. And when he got 215 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 4: back to Washington, he quickly realized that he was not 216 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 4: the only military person who was given these wild assignments 217 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 4: out of the country during the period of the assassination. 218 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 4: A lot of people in the military, especially those close 219 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 4: to John F. Kennedy and his administration, were sent on 220 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 4: what you might think of as fool's errands. They were 221 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 4: just like somebody was trying to get them out of 222 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 4: the picture during this period of time, and then he 223 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 4: started thinking about who had an interest in orchestrating such 224 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 4: a thing and who had the power to cover up 225 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 4: exactly what had happened. And Colonel Prowdy said, in nineteen 226 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 4: forty five, before everybody knew about this top secret thing 227 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 4: called the atomic bomb, that they had been planning, the 228 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 4: US military had been planning a gigantic ground invasion of 229 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 4: Japan because the Japanese emperor was saying, we're not going 230 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 4: to surrender. We're not going to surrender, and so, you know, 231 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 4: without knowing about a bomb, and maybe you know, and 232 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 4: I guess they weren't even sure the bomb was going 233 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 4: to work. They had already created these incredible contracts with 234 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 4: all of these military suppliers, again many of them in 235 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 4: Texas are rooted financially in Texas, and they were ready 236 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 4: to go, and you know, they were going to make 237 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 4: a lot of money by invading Japan. And then all 238 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 4: of a sudden that wasn't necessary because the bomb was 239 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 4: dropped and so Japan surrendered, no need for all these 240 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: weapons resources to be used, and so these contractors they said, way, 241 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 4: we got to we got to do something here in 242 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 4: order to utilize these weapons that we've created and get 243 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: paid for them. So they came up with a plan. 244 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 4: They almost immediately in nineteen forty five started sending most 245 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: of those supplies to a country called Vietnam, and the 246 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: war there would begin. Oh it would take, you know, 247 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 4: around twenty years later for the war there to begin. 248 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 4: But it seemed like, according to Prouty, they were already 249 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 4: planning it around nineteen forty five forty six to do 250 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 4: something with all these weapons. And because all these military 251 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 4: contractors were twiddling their thumbs saying, come on, when are 252 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 4: we going to move on this and when are we 253 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 4: going to get all the contracts fulfilled, they started working 254 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 4: their way toward it. With the Korean War, et cetera. 255 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 4: Proud He said, there was incredible pressure for us to 256 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 4: fulfill these contracts from the military industrial complex in one 257 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 4: way or another. Many politicians were funded by these military contractors. 258 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 4: The communist threat was pushed really hard and escalated into 259 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 4: the Cold War, which was all about driving that war machine. 260 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 4: And because of John F. Kennedy's status as a war 261 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 4: hero in World War Two, at first there was a 262 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 4: lot of confidence that John F. Kennedy would go along 263 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 4: with this plan and shift those resources over to Vietnam 264 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 4: so that they could invade there. And at first JFK 265 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 4: was kind of on board with this communist threat because 266 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 4: of Cuba being so close to the United States and 267 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: Cuba was working with the Russians, and it seemed very 268 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 4: threatening that, you know, Vietnam's along long ways off, but 269 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 4: Cuba is right there off the coast of Florida. You 270 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 4: can't have that. And so when Kennedy decided that this 271 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 4: thing called the Bay of Pigs invasion should take place, 272 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 4: big military operation to go in and help overthrow the 273 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 4: Cuban government, the contractors were happy. But that project became 274 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 4: a huge failure and everybody was surprised, and that kind 275 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: of killed a lot of the momentum that JFK had 276 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: for pushing this agenda into defeating the communists in the 277 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 4: Vietnam region. And so JFK was not sold on escalating 278 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: things into this bigger war in Vietnam. And this became 279 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 4: a big, big problem for all of these inconceivably wealthy 280 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 4: people and companies that had all this money invested in 281 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: going to war. And again, many of these military contractors 282 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 4: were in Texas, even the Warren Commission talked about there 283 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 4: being a conspiracy regarding Oswald being a communist sympathizer and 284 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: going to Russia and then getting involved with Cuba and 285 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 4: all that. So it's sort of like, you know, everybody 286 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 4: agrees there was some kind of a conspiracy here. The 287 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 4: question is whose conspiracy do you believe. Nobody says Oswald 288 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 4: just woke up that morning and decided to go do 289 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 4: this spontaneously, So whose conspiracy do you want to believe? Now? 290 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 4: Around this time, it is now a matter of public 291 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 4: record that some agencies in our government were indeed working 292 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 4: with mafia assassins in New York and Chicago to possibly 293 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 4: go after Castro. That was one thing that they had discussed. 294 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 4: So there was a relationship there. And I don't want 295 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 4: to point any direct fingers here and cast dispersions on 296 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 4: any particular age, but I think you can put some 297 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 4: pieces together yourself and look at the candidates. And there 298 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 4: are some people who believe that well, assassins who work 299 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 4: for the United States would have been brought in from 300 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 4: other countries, but that doesn't actually make sense because it's 301 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 4: better for you to utilize an assassin from your own country, 302 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 4: because when you do that you have a lot more 303 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 4: control and power over them if they go off the rails. 304 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 4: If you have some assassin from another country come here 305 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 4: and do something to go back to his country and 306 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 4: start bragging about it at a bar, you might not 307 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 4: be able to do as much about it, much less 308 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 4: control over farmers. And so there was this there was 309 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 4: this code of silence obviously among the people in the 310 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 4: mafia La Cosa and Nostra, and it was so well known. 311 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 4: I mean, Robert F. Kennedy, the President's brother, the Attorney General, 312 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 4: called it murder in corporate and of course he ended 313 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 4: up assassinated as well. So I think you see the 314 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 4: very clear motivation when there's this much money involved. So 315 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 4: let's say that's the most logical reason why that Kennedy 316 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: had to go, because he and his brother really were 317 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 4: standing in the way of what would become this war 318 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: in Vietnam that we are all confused about to this day, 319 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 4: like why was it necessary to go do that? Now, 320 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 4: when you go to Dealey Plaza, it's very interesting because 321 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 4: you can go up to the window that they say 322 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 4: that Oswald was at when he was shooting at Kennedy, 323 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 4: and the Warren Commission says that Oswald. He had this cheap, clumsy, 324 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 4: bolt action Italian rifle called a man Carkano. It jams easily, 325 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 4: and somehow he was able to fire three shots between 326 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 4: five and eight seconds on this thing, and obviously with 327 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 4: incredible accuracy. When I was at jim Mars House, he 328 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 4: had one of these bolt action rifles, a man Liquer Carkano, 329 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 4: exactly like the one that was used to kill JFK. 330 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: And he let me shoot his. It wasn't live, it 331 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: wasn't live, but he was like, see if you could 332 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 4: operate this gun and knock off that many shots in 333 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 4: that period of time. I couldn't do it, and Lauren 334 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 4: couldn't do it, certainly, not accurately. One thing that's even 335 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 4: weirder is that when you're standing at that window and 336 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 4: you're looking at the root the president took, there are 337 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 4: a number of things that don't make sense. And when 338 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: we come back from this break, I'll tell you what 339 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 4: I mean by that. I bet there's something that you've 340 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 4: never heard before that I'm going to share with you. 341 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 4: And this is one of those things that really makes 342 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 4: you believe that efforts were taken to conceal the shots 343 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 4: and the shooters, and I said shooters that day. I'm 344 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 4: Joshua Pete Warren. 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Warren, 362 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 4: and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. 363 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 4: When you are looking out that window on the sixth 364 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 4: floor of the Texas school Book depositortory, the one where 365 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 4: where Oswald they say, was stationed with his rifle. You're 366 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 4: looking kind of straight down this long street called Houston Street, 367 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 4: and so the president's motorcade was slowly, I mean somewhat slowly, 368 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: rather slow, driving toward Oswald coming up Houston Street. So 369 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 4: the target would have been getting bigger and bigger and 370 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 4: bigger from Oswald's point of view. And yet that's not 371 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 4: when the shots happened. Once they got right outside the 372 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 4: school book Depository, Kennedy's car took a left down Elbe Street, 373 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 4: which from Oswald's point of view was to the right. 374 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 4: And after that that meant his target was driving away 375 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 4: and getting smaller and smaller and smaller. And so only 376 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 4: then did he supposedly decide to start shooting. Why would 377 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 4: he do that? Well, you might say maybe he had 378 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 4: cold feet and he just delayed for a bit. Okay, fine, 379 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 4: But you know what, when he was looking in that direction, 380 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 4: there were also tree branches that were hanging there, which 381 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 4: would have made it even more difficult for him to 382 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 4: achieve those shots. But here's the thing that blew my mind. 383 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 4: One time I was at Jim Marris House, and the 384 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 4: two of us were sitting in his study, and he 385 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: had the kind of study that you would imagine, you know, 386 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 4: tons of books and files, and he said, I want 387 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 4: to show you something. So because that Jim was working 388 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 4: as as a crime reporter there in the Dallas Fort 389 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 4: Worth area, and Jim actually knew Jack Ruby. By the way, 390 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 4: Jack Ruby, we'll get into him maybe a little bit 391 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 4: more later, but Jack Ruby was the guy who ended 392 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 4: up killing Oswald. And Jack Ruby knew a lot of 393 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 4: people in the area because he owned a strip club 394 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 4: and was into a lot of CD things and dark 395 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 4: backroom deals. And so Jim said, he said, I want 396 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 4: to show you a picture. He showed me a picture, 397 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 4: and I'm not sure if it was one that he 398 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 4: took or one of his colleagues took. Right then, as 399 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 4: soon as they would, let reporters go to the window 400 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 4: where Oswald was, and there was this big, giant black 401 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 4: pipe running from the ceiling to the floor that blocked 402 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 4: about a third of that window, which would have made 403 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 4: it almost impossible for Oswald to maneuver his rifle to 404 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 4: get that angle to hit Kennedy. And yet that pipe 405 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 4: is no longer there where did it go, Who removed it? 406 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: When was it removed? Apparently Oswald was involved. But when 407 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 4: you actually walk down and you stand at the spot 408 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 4: in the road, I think there's an X or something 409 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 4: where Kennedy was shot, where he got the head shot. 410 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: The logical place. 411 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 4: It seems like that shot would have come from is 412 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 4: the Grassy Knoll. All right, so who did this? 413 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: Well? 414 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 4: In the nineteen nineties, Jim Mahers interviewed a very interesting 415 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 4: fellow who was in prison named James Files. James Files 416 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,719 Speaker 4: was born in nineteen forty two and he was serving 417 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 4: a fifty year prison sentence for the attempted murders of 418 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 4: two police officers, and Files told Jim Marris and other 419 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 4: people that he was the gunman on the Grassy Knoll 420 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 4: who actually shot President Kennedy in the head. And his 421 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 4: story was that at that time, one of the gangsters 422 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 4: that certain people in the government was working with to 423 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 4: consider how to assassinate Castro was a man named Sam 424 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 4: g and Conna, and Sam g and Conna was the 425 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 4: boss of the Chicago Outfit from nineteen fifty seven to 426 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 4: nineteen sixty six. The boss of the Chicago Outfit, he 427 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 4: ended up being assassinated when he was sixty seven years old. 428 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 4: Somebody came into his house. I believe in or no, 429 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 4: let's see, yeah, I think somebody came into his house 430 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 4: and shot him in the back of the head. But anyway, 431 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 4: Sam g and Conna was the big boss there, but 432 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 4: his main assassin, the guy who worked for Sam g 433 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 4: and Conna was a man named Charles Nicoletti Chucky, the 434 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 4: typewriter mobster of the Chicago outfit who served as hit 435 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 4: man under boss Sam g and Coanna before and after 436 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 4: g and Conna's rise and fall. Turns out, Nicoletti would 437 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 4: also end up getting murdered. Somebody shot him in the 438 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: head I think when he was in the car at 439 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 4: a restaurant parking lot. But anyway, this guy James Files 440 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 4: and I don't have time to get into the whole story. 441 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 4: You can go and go to YouTube and hear him 442 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 4: tell his story on a number on a number of channels. 443 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 4: He ended up working for Charles Nicoletti. So you had 444 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 4: Sam g and Kanna the boss. You had Charles Nicoletti, 445 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 4: who was a bonafide assassin, bona fide hip man. There's 446 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 4: no telling how many people that he killed with his 447 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 4: own hands, and then James Files would work for Charles 448 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 4: Nicoletti on various projects. You know, it could be anything 449 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 4: from killing somebody to trying to smuggle weapons or embezzel 450 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 4: money or whatever. And according to James Files, sam Gy 451 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 4: and Kanna put Charles Nicoletti in charge of going down 452 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 4: there and preparing to shoot John F. Kennedy that day, 453 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 4: and that Charles Nicoletti was the one who was supposed 454 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 4: to be doing, you know, to deliver the death shot. 455 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 4: But it turns out that that Charles Nicoletti said, if 456 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 4: at the last moment, we're gonna if we position you 457 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,959 Speaker 4: over here by this grassy knoll, by the railroad tracks 458 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 4: or whatever, at the last moment, if he doesn't have 459 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 4: a head shot, can you shoot him in the head 460 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 4: because we need to get a headshot. So if I 461 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 4: don't get the head shot, can you get a headshot 462 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 4: in And James Files says sure, he would do that. 463 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 4: So he brought this long pistol called a Remington Fireball 464 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 4: XP one hundred, which wasn't even in mass production at 465 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 4: the time, but was available to people on the inside. 466 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 4: And so he said that he was on the grassy 467 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 4: knoll that Charles Nicoletti was. He wasn't sure where Charles 468 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 4: Nicoletty was, but he said that Charles Nicoletty was shooting 469 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 4: from the back, but at the last minute there was 470 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 4: no headshot, and so James Files said that he took 471 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 4: the shot and he's the one who hit Kennedy in 472 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 4: the head. And James Files said that he had been 473 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 4: working with Oswald and they were preparing a lot of 474 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 4: these scenarios and talking about, you know, the best ways 475 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 4: to take out JFK. But he said that Oswald took 476 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 4: no shots at JFK. That Oswald after they arrested him, 477 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 4: he basically passed a paraffin test, which tests for gunpowder. 478 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 4: He had some residue on his hands from handling shells 479 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 4: beforehand when they're practicing shooting. But if it wasn't Nicoletti, 480 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 4: File says, at least another mafia man was there taking 481 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 4: shots at JFK from behind during the assassination. You have 482 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 4: to go to YouTube and watch James Files James Earl 483 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 4: Files last name elf F I L E s if 484 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 4: you want to see more of this information for yourself, 485 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 4: and hear it straight from his mouth, and you know what, 486 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 4: the crazy thing is the guy, like I say, he 487 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 4: was serving a fifty year prison sentence. I believe, I 488 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 4: believe he's still alive at the age of about ab 489 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 4: about eighty three years old now, and so at its 490 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 4: I kind of oppress event if you will. Oswald was 491 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 4: claiming that he was just a patsy for the whole thing, 492 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 4: that he was a scapegoat, and then he was quickly 493 00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 4: assassinated by Jack Ruby, and Jack he was dying of cancer, 494 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 4: and many say that he was picked for that job 495 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 4: because he entertained mobsters and Texas businessman at his strip club, 496 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 4: and they assured him that his family would be taking 497 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 4: care of after his impending death. So, in a nutshell, 498 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 4: it's really not that hard to figure out what has 499 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 4: happened here if you look at the facts and retrospect, 500 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 4: you just use plain logic, and it's kind of a duh. 501 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 4: A bunch of rich guys in Texas were invested in 502 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 4: weapons factories. JFK's vice president, Lyndon B. Johnson, was also 503 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 4: from Texas. The rich weapons guys in Texas hired the 504 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 4: mob to kill JFK and Texas. Some people in the 505 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 4: government knew about it and didn't stop it, and as 506 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 4: soon as Lyndon B. Johnson became pre we went hard 507 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 4: into Vietnam and fulfilled many of those outstanding weapons contracts, 508 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 4: especially from Texas. And to this day, we don't really 509 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 4: understand why we should have gone into Vietnam and waged 510 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 4: that war logically and amazingly. A man like Lyndon B. Johnson, 511 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 4: who loved being a politician, decided not to run for 512 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 4: his final term as president. That's because he was scared. 513 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 4: He realized what could happen to him if he decided 514 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 4: he didn't want to play along anymore, just like j 515 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 4: f KA. When we come back from this break, I'm 516 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 4: going to give you some final thoughts on this, and 517 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 4: then I may even have time to squeeze in a 518 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 4: listener email or two. Trust me, i could talk to 519 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 4: you for hours about this, but I've been doing my 520 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 4: best to condense it down. I'm Joshua pe Warren. You're 521 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 4: listening to Strange things on iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 522 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 4: AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will. 523 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 2: Be right back. Controlling insulin the key to weight loss. 524 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 2: Weight Magic product creator Dan Putnam. 525 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 9: We've created the weight Magic drop. 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Paranormal date dot com is great for everyone. 539 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 10: You can also tap into members that are sixty plus 540 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 10: at paranormal date dot com slash seniors. Enjoy your search 541 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 10: and have some fun at paranormal date dot com. 542 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 4: Welcome back to the final segment. I love this edition 543 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,280 Speaker 4: of Strange Things the Radio and Coast to Coast AM 544 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 4: Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren 545 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 4: and I asked Jim Mars if he believed James Files. 546 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 5: And Jim said. 547 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 4: That he wasn't quite sure. Jim's Jim was a lifelong 548 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 4: a lifelong journalist and interviewer, and he said he never 549 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 4: could quite get a bead on the fell. I thought 550 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 4: that was interesting. I'm just giving you my opinion. 551 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 2: Again. 552 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 4: I believe that James Files is still alive. And if 553 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 4: you go and look up what it says about him 554 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 4: on Wikipedia born in Alabama, January twenty fourth, nineteen forty two, 555 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 4: it says Files. Files has subsequently been interviewed by others 556 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 4: and discussed in multiple books pertaining to the assassination. In 557 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety four, the Federal Bureau of Investigation was quoted 558 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 4: as having investigated files allocations and found it to be 559 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 4: not credible. Says the FBI, and then also the other 560 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 4: critical analysis. Vincent Bugliosi, author of Reclaiming History the assassination 561 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 4: of President John F. Kennedy, characterized Files as the Rodney 562 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 4: Dangerfield of Kennedy assassins, which whatever that means, and then 563 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,919 Speaker 4: Bugliosi went on to say that very few within the 564 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:49,280 Speaker 4: majority of Americans believe there was a conspiracy m h Okay. However, 565 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 4: conspiracy author Jerome Croft described Files as a quote surprisingly 566 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 4: credible person and said his story is the most believable 567 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 4: and persuasive about the assassination. Look, I'm giving you my 568 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 4: opinion here once again, and I want to clarify something 569 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 4: as well for you. I know that there are lots 570 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 4: of people out there, just like Jim Mars, who have 571 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 4: devoted their entire lives to this subject. And I am 572 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 4: not proclaiming to be anywhere close to a Kennedy assassination expert. 573 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 4: I'm just an amateur who has been very interested in 574 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 4: the mystery most of my life. So for those of 575 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 4: you who are really hardcore into this, I want you 576 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 4: to understand this is not actually a conspiracy show. This 577 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 4: is kind of a special edition of strange things. I 578 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 4: don't usually dig into deep conspiracy stuff, so please do 579 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 4: not email me with your thoughts and theories and you 580 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 4: want to get into arguments and debates and split hairs 581 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 4: and tell me why that I'm wrong and all that. 582 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 4: It's not going to do any good. I'm not even 583 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 4: going to take the time to read it. I'm just 584 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 4: giving you my opinion based upon what I've seen, what 585 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 4: I think is most likely the logical case. And once again, 586 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 4: maybe new material will come to light that will completely 587 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 4: make everything I've said somehow irrelevant. But I kind of 588 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,879 Speaker 4: doubt it because after all these years, I don't think 589 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 4: we're going to find anybody who comes out and says 590 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 4: I did it who hasn't already said that he did it, 591 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 4: no living person. And I also don't think that that 592 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 4: the files are going to contain that kind of information 593 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 4: like case files where you pull out a piece of 594 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 4: paper and somebody says, oh, here's who did it sign 595 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 4: off on it? How are you going to know if 596 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 4: that's a real document or if that person knew what 597 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,919 Speaker 4: he or she was talking about. Uh So, I don't 598 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 4: think we're going to get any kind of a satisfactory 599 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 4: smoking gun until we have a time machine. Maybe we 600 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 4: can go back and review what happened. This whole story 601 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,439 Speaker 4: is too much and this is just a podcast. So again, 602 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 4: I do recommend that you go back and read some 603 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 4: of Jim Mars's books. So will these latest files that 604 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 4: are being released specify anything more than what I've given 605 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 4: you here? 606 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 5: I doubt it. 607 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 4: People don't write these kinds of things down and record them. 608 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 4: But here's something important to remember in general when it 609 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 4: comes to conspiracies, and there are real conspiracies. People get 610 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 4: convicted of conspiracy every day in courts of law, and 611 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 4: people will conspire to keep this some of the most 612 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 4: inconsequential things secret, like Bill Clinton, for example, what happened 613 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 4: in his oval office. I think I'll say no more 614 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 4: about that, but that was a conspiracy to cover up 615 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 4: something of that size. But here's the general rule for 616 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 4: how to try to keep a conspiracy to cover up truth. 617 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 4: What you do. You can't keep something a secret because 618 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 4: people are just going to talk. That's that's natural. I 619 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 4: think it was Ben Franklin who said two can keep 620 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 4: a secret if one is dead. People are going to talk. 621 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 4: So the only thing you can do to combat it 622 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 4: is to put out ten different versions of the truth. 623 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 4: And then people they finally get confused and exhausted and 624 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 4: they just give up. They stop trying to figure it out. 625 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 4: That's how this process works, and that's why that you 626 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 4: have to reach a point where you just have to 627 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 4: use your own sense of logic connecting A to B, 628 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 4: two C to D and look at your own resources 629 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,760 Speaker 4: and draw your own conclusions. So again that's my opinion, 630 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 4: and I hope you've enjoyed hearing me tell you what 631 00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 4: I think after so many years of being friends with 632 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 4: the late great jem Mars and digging into it as 633 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 4: deeply as I have. Let me see if I can 634 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 4: squeeze in an email or two. How about this first off? 635 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 4: You know, I own, I created, I own, I manage 636 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 4: the Haunted Ashville Ghost Tours in Asheville, North Carolina. And uh, 637 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 4: it's been you know, it's like it's the original, the oldest. 638 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 4: We have just fantastic reviews. We've been around twenty five years. 639 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,360 Speaker 4: Haunted Ashville dot com Asheville has an E in the middle, 640 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 4: a s H E V I L L E. We 641 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 4: had a rough time when Hurricane Helen came through and 642 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 4: flooded stuff, but we're back up and running full speed ahead. 643 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 4: We love to have you on the tour. Go to 644 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 4: Haunted Ashville dot com and buy your ticket. We were 645 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 4: actually selling so many that a lot of the tours 646 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,919 Speaker 4: are selling out now. But I also if you own 647 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 4: a tour here in the Las Vegas area, it's in 648 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 4: Boulder City. It's called the Boulder City Haunted, Boulder City 649 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,760 Speaker 4: Ghost and UFO Tour almost five out of five stars, 650 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 4: got four point eight out of five stars on trip Advisor. 651 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 4: That's pretty amazing. And recently, you know, I've always thought 652 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 4: that I want to surprise locals. That's my goal. If 653 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,280 Speaker 4: you're a local and you come on one of the tours, 654 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 4: I want you to learn things that you don't even 655 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 4: know about. And I have a fella hero named Chaz 656 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 4: who is He is a friend. I must say that, 657 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,959 Speaker 4: but at the same time, he made it very clear 658 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 4: he's not writing this because that we have any kind 659 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 4: of a friendship. He hosts a podcast called the ear 660 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 4: Mob Podcast, and I wanted to share with you what 661 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 4: he recently wrote about taking the Haunted Boulder City Ghost 662 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 4: and UFO tour. He said, we took the Haunted Boulder 663 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 4: City tour last night and it was fantastic. Having grown 664 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,959 Speaker 4: up in Las Vegas, I thought I knew about Boulder City, 665 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 4: but I had no idea. Our tour guide, Zultar, could 666 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 4: not have been nicer, and his knowledge just blew us away. 667 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 4: Hearing the tales of ghosts seen at the Boulder Damn 668 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 4: and strange activity and many of the downtown businesses had 669 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 4: us all looking over our shoulders during the tour. I 670 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 4: highly recommend this tour if you're into the spookier side 671 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 4: of history and want to get some steps in. Don't 672 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 4: pass up the chance to learn something. You won't be disappointed. 673 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 5: That great. 674 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 4: Thank you for that, Chaz. That's Haunted bouldercity dot com. 675 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 4: So if you're at Ashville, go to Hauntedashville dot com. 676 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 4: Or Boulder City outside of Las Vegas, go to Haunted 677 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 4: bouldercity dot com. Let me see if I can squeeze 678 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 4: in one or two more emails. You know, I told 679 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 4: you soon I'm going to be talking about what happened 680 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 4: when I did my portal opening experiment. One guy named 681 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 4: Jason says, I was one of the very few people 682 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,479 Speaker 4: who ask you not to go through with your plan 683 00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 4: to open a portal in response to your podcast rest 684 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 4: that question. While listening to one of your recent podcasts, 685 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 4: I heard your follow up report about whether you will 686 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 4: decide to go through it or not, and I got 687 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 4: a heck of a kick saying. Hearing you say there 688 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 4: were only a couple people who advised against it. That 689 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 4: surprised me to hear, and it was great. I found 690 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 4: it to be hilarious to hear that I was nearly 691 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 4: the only one out of hundreds of responses to say, 692 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,439 Speaker 4: don't do it. I've always been odd anyway. I wish 693 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,479 Speaker 4: you great success, and who knows, it may turn into 694 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 4: the grandest discovery since man learned how to use fire. 695 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 4: Thanks for everything you do. May you be successful. Thank 696 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 4: you for that, Jason, And let me reassure you, my friend, 697 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 4: it was a success. It has all been good. My 698 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 4: head is still spinning, so I'm not sure if it's 699 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,280 Speaker 4: going to be in the next edition of the show 700 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 4: or the one after that, where I'm going to start 701 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 4: at the beginning and try to tell the whole story. 702 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 4: I am going through footage from over ten different cameras. 703 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 4: I don't even know how many instruments that we had there. 704 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 4: So stay tuned. It's going to be a good one, 705 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 4: my folks's friends. It's the Scionotron Show, the Portal opening show, 706 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 4: all right, looks like the Clocks about Goddess. So you 707 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 4: know how we're going to end. 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Thank you for listening, thank you for 718 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 4: your interest and support, Thank you for staying curious, and 719 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 4: I will talk to you again soon. You've been listening 720 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 4: to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 721 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 4: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 722 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,919 Speaker 3: Well, if you like this episode of Strange Things, wait 723 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,800 Speaker 3: till you hear the next one. Thank you for listening 724 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 3: to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.