WEBVTT - Keone Young Meets World 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:23.200 So, I you guys know how much I love shoes. 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:27.320 One of my gifts from writer here is a shoe candle. 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:32.120 I just, I have loved shoes since I was a kid. 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:34.840 I loved my mom's shoes. Then when I was old 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.120 enough to start buying my own shoes, I've just I've 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:43.440 loved heels and Espa drills and sneakers and wedges and. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.239 What's an Esqua drill? I'm sorry I heard. I understood 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:48.320 everything else, but what's an drill? 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:52.080 Is a type of poem. It's sixteen lines exactly. Doesn't 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:53.120 it sound like it should be. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.040 In a drill that drills and the screw the other direction. 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:56.880 It's an Espa drill. 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.920 What what is an Espa drill? It's I'll show you 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:04.480 Espa drill wedges. It's like, this is a classic Espa 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:05.399 drill right there? 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:07.280 It went away, but yeah I saw it. 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.120 Yeah, that's an Espa drill. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:10.280 Okay, okay. 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:15.039 Sometimes they sometimes they lace up around your ankle. Is 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:16.480 that like shoe? 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.240 Yeah, it's a heeled sandal, kind of. 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:23.080 Like a heeled sandal. Yeah, they're definitely a flat well, 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.600 I mean there's also these these are flat versions of it. 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:27.560 So it's a totally different thing. 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.320 This is so, this is what the definition is. A 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:35.039 flat shoe with a cloth upper, a rope sole, and 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.800 sometimes lacing that ties around the ankle, so that as 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.360 long as it has the rope bottom and a cloth top, 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:44.760 the shape of the shoe can be anything. 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.400 And then it sounds like what they would have worn 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.080 on ships and stuff like rope bottom, cloth top. 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:55.200 I kind of like them, are there, male? Can you 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:56.560 get men's esp drills? 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:00.880 Yeah? I'm going to get an s P A A 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:07.120 U D R I L L EAT for men. Okay, 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:08.600 are you looking them up? 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.040 Yeah, I'm gonna get some pirate shoes exact. 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:11.639 That's what they're called. 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:12.799 From now on. Those are. 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.840 Well, there are when you love shoes, there are just 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:22.080 some shoes that like really give you the ick, you know, 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:28.359 like like say, I mean crocs used to be one 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:34.280 of them, for sure, before crocs became so mainstream and 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:38.160 in your face that everybody wore them. But even crocs 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.760 took me a really long time to get past. I 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:46.040 was like, nope, never, you could never convince to wear crocs. 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:50.400 But I used to feel that way about Birkenstocks. 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:52.919 Oh yeah, oh gross. 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:58.800 No, Well guess what. The pandemic changed many things for me. Also, 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.480 becoming a mother changed many things for me. I bought 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:06.720 my first pair of Crocs during the pandemic. And I 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.440 bought my first pair of Birkenstocks when Adler was little 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.200 and we were going on a vacation and I was 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.400 going to be doing a ton of walking and I 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.720 need support. And everyone's like, oh, once you break in 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:22.080 your pair of Birkenstocks, they're the You can spend fourteen 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.799 hours walking around a city in them. So I did. 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:26.560 I got my first pair of Birkenstocks that broke them 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:31.040 in greatest, most comfortable shoe, never a shoe pain. If 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:32.880 I'm in a pair of Birkenstocks, I can wear them 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:36.559 for literally twelve hours going anywhere. I walked around Austria 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:44.600 totally fine. Yesterday I put on a pair of shoes 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:51.280 that are so icky. Do you know the shoes that 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.440 have individual pockets for your toast? 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:58.400 Oh my god, the yes rocks. 0:03:58.680 --> 0:03:59.720 Yes, I do. 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:04.960 Okay, So I went to the gym yesterday. As you know, 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.000 very healthy lifestyle I've picked up over the last couple 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.120 of months have changed my eating habits, have started working out, 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.240 I've it has helped me, not at all. I've only 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.880 gained weight. I don't know how to explain it, but 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.720 I feel better. I do feel better, so I'm keeping 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.200 up with it. Anyway. Went to the gym yesterday to 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.480 do a met con class, which is a hit workout, 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:30.000 a high intensity interval training workout. You use weights and 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.120 you do these ten exercises. You do them three you 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:33.880 do them all ten of them. Then you start over 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:35.520 and you do them again three times. You do each 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:39.160 exercise for a minute. At my gym, the Poluva shoe 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.080 people were there and they were like, for this class only, 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.600 we are giving away free socks to anyone who would 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.920 like to try the shoes, and you can just wear 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.279 them for this class and then we'd love your honest feedback. 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:56.320 Tell us what you think about them. And I was like, yeah, 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.640 you know what, I'm gonna try it. Why not do 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:04.200 out there? Put on socks that have five daoles for 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:09.680 each of my toes, and then I put toes in 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:13.200 the shoes. They're freaking phenomenal. 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.120 Not don't be that guy, bro. 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:20.360 I will never ever wear them out to like run 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:25.320 an errand, but I am thinking about buying some for weightlifting. 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.000 I can't even believe I'm saying it. I got pictures. Look, 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.120 I need to show you guys. First of all, the 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.360 bottoms of them are so cute, like I have little 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:36.200 panda feet. 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.360 So just your Wiki feet page is about to get 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:39.760 an update. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:44.440 And the bottom of these shoes, okay, and then look look, 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:48.359 look look, and they feel cool. They feel great. So 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:49.240 here's what I like about it. 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:50.880 I'm so worried about each one of my toes. I 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:51.719 don't know, just stuff. 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.240 Here's what's great. And this is what they tried to 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:55.240 tell me. And at first I was like, I don't 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.400 understand what you're talking about. With normal shoes and the 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.360 way our feet are in them and as thick as 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:04.080 they are, and with the not having individual toe brackets, 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:08.159 you don't actually like your toes don't really grip the ground. 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.400 All of your toes don't really grip the ground. They're 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:14.320 just kind of like in your shoes. With these shoes. 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.160 Because all of my toes were housed in their own 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.599 little home. When I would have to do something balancing, 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.760 so say I had heavy weights in my hands and 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.920 I was doing like a lunge that then where I 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:27.919 lifted my back foot and so I'm balancing on my 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.720 front foot. All of a sudden, all of my toes 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.760 were gripping the ground, kind of the way they do 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.680 when you're barefoot, like if you were doing yoga or 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.360 pilates and you're able to feel yourself and you can 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.400 like look down at your foot and realize, like, oh, 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:41.760 I need to put I have all my weight in 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:43.599 my pinky toe. I need to put more weight in 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.200 the ball on my foot. You can feel all of 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:49.320 that with these shoes on. They were really grippy, so 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.000 I was still able to run around on the floor. 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.800 They're hideous. They're the ugliest shoes I've ever seen in 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.880 my entire life, and I could never be seen in them. 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.680 But I am thinking about buying a pair. 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.800 Would they in any way shape or form, uh like 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:04.600 get in. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.520 Like screw up your man bun if you're wearing them. 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.880 I'm curious, would they mess Would they mess with that? 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.960 They would screw They'd screw up your macho ltte, your ice. 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.280 I'm wondering about that, your cargo shorts and your man but. 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.200 Your petuli is a little less. 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.880 Potent, Okay, I'm just I'm just checking. 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:25.160 Yeah, because you. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:29.280 Can still do the devil sticks though, right, that's that's. 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.000 That's great, you can still do that. I love that anyway. 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.720 I did think you guys would not would just not 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:36.440 expect me to be an ugly shoe lady. 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.920 No, we call those douche shoes at our house. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:41.119 I love that douche. 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:42.000 Yeah, we do. 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.760 Oh, I love it so much, the douche, the douche shoes, 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:45.680 the douche shoe. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.480 So that's that's kind of what we call those. But hey, 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.120 I think you talk to me album no, to each 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:51.520 their own. 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:55.000 I mean, that's no, it makes sense because if you 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:59.160 if you then have the same conversation, but around hands, 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.160 you're talking about the difference between wearing a pair of 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.840 gloves and which makes it, which does make a big difference. 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.160 But yeah, but no, but I just you know, it 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:11.880 is what it. 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.640 Is, and I do think because then I so I 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:15.960 left and I was like, I'm going to look these 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:17.640 shoes up. I'm going to see how much they are. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.240 And I was looking at them and I did. Then 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:25.640 first of all, they're so so hideous on the website. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.800 I was like, I just wore them and they didn't 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.080 look that hideous in person. On the website, I'm like, 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:37.160 they this is it couldn't possibly be this ugly. And 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.679 and I did stop myself from buying a pair because 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.160 I thought, am I ever going to be able to 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.160 get out of my own head when I'm wearing these 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.920 or the whole time? Am I going to be like 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:48.839 that person over there staring at my ugly feet? Shooes? 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.840 Yeah, I don't be able to do. If you're going 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.400 to do it, you have to just jump in with No. 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.760 You guys have single to. 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:00.920 Talk you out of it. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.640 For weight lifting, Yeah no, No, it's good. 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:07.400 I like you shouldn't define you or be stereotypical. I 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.920 do put on your broken stocks, get into your super 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.959 and go and buy the douche shoes. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:18.760 I think they'll be great. I don't see the problem. 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.640 What's no, I'm good. I'm good even with the cute 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.199 little bottom pand of feet. I'm not gonna not gonna 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:25.600 do it now. 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.880 I would not judge you for shaming me. I know 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:30.520 I would not. 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.880 I would not every time you put them on. He 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:36.839 would unabashedly shame you the whole time. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:38.920 I'm just worried about the comfort. I just whenever I 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.439 see like the idea of wrapping every one of my toes, 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:45.400 like exactly, that's what I mean. You don't, yeah, you know, 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:47.880 it seems like it wouldn't fit. Like it's just like 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:49.880 my toes would be too fat for one of them. 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:51.800 I just need it is. It is weird because my 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.040 big toe was like a little too long for that 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.480 size of shoe, but my pinky toe was nowhere near 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:58.320 the end of it. So like if I went up 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.200 a different size, my would have my big toe would 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.000 have more room, but my pinky it could be cost 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.840 a mold one for you, they told me when I 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:07.800 said that, They said, but part of the reason your 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.000 pinky toe doesn't take up enough room is because it's 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.960 so used to being squished in your regular shoes. 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:17.600 So they're pinky suffocating your petto. 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.920 My pinky toe has shrunk itself in order to fit 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:21.640 into the fabric of this society. 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:25.200 And if I could, in order to appeal to people 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.280 like you who call her douche shoes, if she likes 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:28.319 the wrong shoes. 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.719 My pinky could have its own identity. 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.679 You do you it doesn't? You go out there and 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.040 you bet the bottom shoes bag you can. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.160 That's how I look at it. Be in a douchebag. 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.760 It's it's it's wearing what you want. Wear that hair bun. 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:44.160 Of course, wear that hair bun. 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.319 Neglect your feet. If you guys want your pinky toes 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.720 to continue to shrink themselves to fit into society. 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:54.160 I am I'm totally are you? Are you well? Because 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.120 you know I don't have beach shoes. I hate anything 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:00.480 that actually shows my feet. This is perfect. These are 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:02.760 beachy shoes that I can wear. They're like sandals, but 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:04.240 I don't have to Actually, you know, one has to 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:05.480 look at my hobby feet. 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:09.200 It's perfect. Will you update us when you get your 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.480 male espadral? Yeah, okay, thank you. Welcome to Pod meets World. 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.160 I'm Daniel Fishl, I'm right or Strong, and I'm Will Fordell. 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.960 If we've said it once, we've said it a million times. 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.600 For the most part, we were pretty self absorbed as 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.880 kids on the set of Boy Meets World. The sheer 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.360 number of adult actors Will could have talked to about 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.720 their time on MASH or the stories Bill could have 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:41.840 told us about the making of the graduate, or the 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.160 moments I could have at least remembered from the run 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.520 of the show. They all seem like missed opportunities that 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.400 now with a rewatch podcast three decades later, we can 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.280 right those wrongs and not only shine a spotlight on 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.679 some of these incredible talents that joined us on set, 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.319 but we can learn more about them, even if a 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:00.760 little late. And this week we get to right our 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:04.199 wrongs once again. With a career spanning over fifty years, 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.200 our guest this week has two hundred and eighty one 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.720 acting credits to his name. You may have seen him 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:12.560 steal scenes on the genius HBO show Deadwood, or appear 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.280 in movies like Men in Black three and the adrenaline 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.520 laced cult hit Crank, or on TV where he kicked 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.280 off his career with appearances on shows like Different Strokes, 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:25.040 Heart to Heart, Saint Elsewhere, and Webster. He's the absolute 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.640 definition of a working actor, still acting and making a 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.720 killing as one of the most prolific voice actors working today, 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:36.480 with classics like Narudo, Gi Joe, Samurai Jack, Teen Titans, 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:41.640 and Avatar The Last Airbender. On a long, long resume. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.720 He's awesome, He's awesome. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.240 Yeah, Yeah, Avatar the Last Mayorbender is one of those 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:47.760 classes I've never watched. 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:49.120 Everyone just in Gi Joe. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.840 I mean, come on, yeah, But for some reason, and 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.120 we don't know why, he's agreed to join us this 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.640 week to talk about the one time he played a 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:00.360 professor at Penbrook University dealing with a group of bright 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:04.040 eyed freshmen on our Meager family sitcom for season six's 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:07.200 Ain't College Great? This week we're talking to one of 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.400 the most impressive guest stars we have ever had. Please 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:11.880 welcome keone Young. 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:15.880 Hello. 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:20.160 Thank you so much for joining us. We are honored 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.000 that you would share some of your time with us 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:27.080 to talk about your very prolific career. Just trying to 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:33.400 get your first credit on IMDb takes several minutes. Yes, 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.120 so you were raised in Hawaii. Both of your parents 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:39.079 had immigrated to the United States. Your father Chinese. 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:44.960 No, actually they didn't immigrant. They were born in Hawaii, Okaya. 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:46.320 Tell us about your upbringing. 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:52.440 I'm a third generation from My grandfather was from China. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:56.679 My grandmother and grand father on my mother's side was 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:00.520 from Japan. But my parents were born in Honolulu, hoois Okay. 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:05.440 And so what was their reaction when you decided to 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.000 pursue a career in the entertainment industry. 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.800 Well, I have to tell you that. You know, for 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:17.200 Asians who emigrated to this country, they came as agricultural people. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:23.280 They came as peasants. My grandparents worked in the fields 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:29.800 you know of in the sugarcane and pineapple fields, and 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:34.160 that's where Hawaii became very commercially, very viable for the 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.720 United States because they provided a lot of sugar for 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:46.360 the country. So my grandparents were indentured workers to plantations. 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:54.320 So my grandfather and grandmother wanted their my grandparents wanted 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:59.000 their kids to be educated. So my my parents were 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.800 were the first to go to school, finish high school 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:08.760 and from from there where they fed kind of like 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:13.320 this new workforce during the fifties through the Eisenhower years, 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.520 the post war years. Their dream was for their kids 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:24.440 to become doctors, lawyers, or even a dentist. Yeah, that 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:33.440 was the lowest acceptable. Let you do that. That was acceptable. 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:41.520 And you know, I just I was really a bad student, 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:47.240 and you know, having kids myself, I realized that school. 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.600 You know, my son told me I want to quit 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:53.440 school at third grade and I said why and he said, well, 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:58.480 school kills my creativity. And I couldn't argue that with him, 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:02.400 because they did that for me, because I come from 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.720 school in the sixties where everything was you know, you 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.520 by wrote, there's no creativity at all. You know, you 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:13.520 had to memorize your multiplication tables. You had to memorize 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.480 all your science for me, you know, and I just 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:21.320 I couldn't. My brain didn't function that way. And so 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.880 I was a real bad student. So I was considered 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:29.680 what we call in Japanese yogo day, which means dirty, 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:35.000 you know, the filthy part of life, A person who 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:40.720 is scum actually so and I mean scum, I mean 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:45.400 the residue of the bottom side of society. And I 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:49.560 found and because I was regarded as such, you know, 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.680 my my friends, my friend's parents would say, oh, don't, 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.320 don't play with him, don't, don't, you know, because he's 0:16:56.360 --> 0:17:03.160 he's no good. So I found a family in the theater. 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:09.040 I wanted to work in theater. I wanted to actually 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.760 I want to build sets. I wanted to design lights. 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.359 I hung lights. I was I was a kid, I 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.959 was like fourteen fifteen. I wasn't afraid to go up 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:22.240 into the to the fly they call it, fly and 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:28.200 hang lights. And I was mentored by some good technical people, 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:32.560 you know, and as I was in. I was in 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.240 the Humblu Community Theater. There is a long story. I 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:39.080 hope you have the time we do so. In the 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:43.480 Hullelo Community Community Theater, I'd be from up in the flies. 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.840 I'd be watching actors and I thought I'd be thinking, 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:47.960 they're not that good. 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:52.000 I don't like what they're doing. 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.080 Now It's not I didn't like. I just thought, well, 0:17:55.600 --> 0:18:00.119 I don't believe them, you know. Yeah, and I and 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.520 of course a lot of the actors during that time, 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:07.119 they didn't want to do small parts, you know. So 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.360 directors would come up to me and go, hey, kid, 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.520 we need a waiter in the scene to come in 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.399 and take an order. Would you do it? So while 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.560 moving the sets and you know, doing the lights, I'd go, 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.439 I'd say okay, and I'd do it one line. And 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:22.480 I did a lot of great plays. I was in 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.119 the Death of a Salesman. I played the waiter and 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.800 Death of a Salesman. Right, come in and I say, 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.720 can I take your order, sir? One a cup of coabi? 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:37.600 Thank you. But but what forced me then was I'd 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.960 be able to watch a play like Arthur Miller's Death 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:46.280 of a Salesman and and gain benefits from it. Realize, 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:52.040 you know, school was important, but this is life drama 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.640 and this, you know. I watched, you know, and then 0:18:54.680 --> 0:19:00.200 I would meet young people from New York who would say, hey, 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:08.560 read Tennessee Williams read, Edward Alby read Chekhov. And I 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.800 would go up into the They had this little library 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.520 in the theater and i'd sit there and i'd work 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:18.600 as a janitor there too, just to you know, pay 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:25.720 for classes and whatever. And I'd read all these wonderful plays. 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:29.240 I read out Edward Alby the Zoo Story, and I 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:35.240 was like, wow, this is fantastic. So I got inspired 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:41.639 to the theater. And also, if you know musicals, you 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.080 know there's a lot of chorus parts where people would 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:51.280 would sing and dance, and I was oftentimes they actors 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.280 didn't want to be in these chorus parts, so they'd 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:57.960 throw me in there because I had a bass voice. 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:03.400 And it was really funny because at fourteen and fifteen, 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:05.600 there was a young woman who was a year older 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.000 than me, who was in sort of the same position, 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:12.119 who kind of like befriended me and who showed me 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.480 how kind theater people were to me. They didn't judge 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:19.280 me if I didn't have the credentials like being a doctor, 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:23.040 a lawyer of four point oh you know, yeah, student, 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:28.960 and she we kind of like I did My Fair 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:34.000 Lady with her, and it was really funny because you know, 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.320 I spoke to local patois. But then I had to 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:42.800 learn how to relearn how to speak standard stage speech, 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:45.919 and you know, so I'm getting married in the morning, 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:50.520 I'd have to learn cognitia yes, and did how to 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:54.439 succeed in business without really trying. And she became she 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:57.840 was like, you know, like just a not a really 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:01.240 good We had these good looking women stars in there, 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:06.440 you know, and they would always kind of like, oh, 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.679 treat her like very patronizing to her. But she was 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:14.920 a very beautiful person and very beautiful voice. So at eighteen, 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:16.719 and I was seventeen, she said, I'm going to New 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:20.600 York study become an actress, which kind of inspired me. 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:22.440 I didn't have enough money to go to New York, 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:25.840 so I had enough money to go to California. Yeah, 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.840 I came to California. I had four hundred dollars in 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.320 my pocket. And that lady was Bet Middler, by the way, 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:39.680 Oh yeah, she became Bet Middler. So I said, Wow, 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:44.560 that's nice. You know that it could happen to someone 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:50.640 who I grew up with, that's amazing. And so that's 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:53.480 the story. I came to LA. I had four hundred 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:57.639 dollars in my pocket, two pairs of pants, two pairs 0:21:57.680 --> 0:21:59.800 of shirts, I mean a pair of shirts. And so. 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:03.880 Where did you live? Did you have a roommate? Where? 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:05.399 How did you find a place to stay? 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:12.440 Well, I applied my mother, being the Asian mother, applied 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:16.360 to several colleges, which all rejected me because my GPA. 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:22.959 But Pasadena Playoffs took me amazing. It was a college 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.800 of theater arts back in the sixties. It was very 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:30.000 famous at that time. Gene Hackman went there, Dustin Hoffman 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:35.040 went there. So they accepted me. I worked during the 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:39.520 summer to pay for the fee, and I didn't know 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:44.000 they needed the money really bade so they took a 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:48.840 lot of people. Yeah, and I went to people like 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:53.120 in my class were Stally Struthers from you know father 0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:55.679 that three company. 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:58.720 Oh, No, Sally from from from all in the family. 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:01.679 All in the family. Yeah. And I don't know if 0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:04.800 you know Ben Murphy, he was in Alias Smith and Jones. 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:11.240 He was so anyway, So I studied there for two 0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:16.800