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Speaker 1: To Be Around the NFL Podcast Are brows sometimes Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another edition to Be Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Handless. I come to you from a

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Speaker 1: virtual room filled with some heroes, Marxist Greg Rosen. What

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Speaker 1: is up? Boards? We made it? You know week fifteen,

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Speaker 1: you got the Saturday games. Uh, it means we're really here.

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Speaker 1: We're really here. Where where are I don't know if

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Speaker 1: we're to the point of the season where like Mark

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Speaker 1: Sessler is like, Okay, we've made it to mid season

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Speaker 1: that he can start planning his off season a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We're towards the end. I think that's accurate. I mean

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Speaker 1: this because you can sneaky think like, hey, there's all

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Speaker 1: these tent pole moments that we've you know, well, you

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Speaker 1: know there's still like nine more weeks of grueling action

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Speaker 1: to get through. And um, you know, I'm not I

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Speaker 1: don't see midpoint or anything at this point. Just keep rolling,

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Speaker 1: put on the blinders and keep flying. Dan North. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I mean in past year is yeah, you can

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Speaker 1: start to peek ahead. Because we're very lucky to have

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Speaker 1: these jobs. We know that it's awesome working for the

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Speaker 1: NFL and talking about football for a living. But by

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Speaker 1: the time you get to the middle of December, there

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Speaker 1: is a grind element to it. And then you take

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Speaker 1: that little peek let's get through when there's all these

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Speaker 1: and then you have a little bit of time to

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Speaker 1: yourself to plan things, as you say, but no, there's

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Speaker 1: no planning. There's a staggering pandemic upon us as well.

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Speaker 1: So maybe we should justice like, stay in this world,

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Speaker 1: live in this little bare den that we're in, and

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Speaker 1: try to enjoy it is gone, then what do we

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Speaker 1: have We don't We have The Australian Open starts like

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Speaker 1: minutes after the Super Bowl, and so there you go. Oh,

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Speaker 1: there we go. So everyone is all set. Um, Yes,

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Speaker 1: this is week fifteen. This is our preview podcast where

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Speaker 1: we go through every single game to come Thursday in

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Speaker 1: the books. But we have two Saturday games. Always fun,

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Speaker 1: always like Saturday games. I'm glad it came back. I

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Speaker 1: I don't when it's Sunday. So that's looking forward to

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Speaker 1: that and then a big slate of games on Sunday

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Speaker 1: into Monday. Uh. And we do this when we go

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Speaker 1: through the game's draft style and it just so happens.

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Speaker 1: Now the old looser that's the first overall pick and

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Speaker 1: the sitting right there staring him in the face. Potentially

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Speaker 1: And what's not to love about this game? You have

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Speaker 1: greg because, uh, we don't know quite what's going on

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Speaker 1: So that's that's not terrible for Taysom hill Um. I'm

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Speaker 1: And you know, we were on this beat a while ago, Greg,

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Speaker 1: all but clinch a playoffs spot, and then they have

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Speaker 1: the division title is gonna be up for grabs next week,

428
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Speaker 1: and I think the Seahawks fans are probably saying, um,

429
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 1: excuse me, who's gonna be covering DK Metcalf Because if

430
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,159
Speaker 1: this is a relatively low scoring game, you get a

431
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 1: good game out of him, and this thing could be curtains. So,

432
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean, there there could be some challenges on Washington's

433
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Speaker 1: offense to keep up and for all we've mentioned, um,

434
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 1: that's why you'd have to tilt Seattle to some degree

435
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,239
Speaker 1: to But uh, it's kind of crazy where we are

436
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 1: a year ago, like a year ago to today with

437
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 1: the whole Washington program. I mean, they were as ultra

438
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: boring as you could imagine a football team to be.

439
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 1: And there's life now, there's narrative. Um, there's things to like.

440
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 1: I like the uniforms, I like the coach, I like

441
00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 1: the whole thing. So this is a very unusual, um scenario.

442
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: Din No, I'd like to see maybe in this offense

443
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 1: this offseason, the offense gets better and becomes a little

444
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 1: more exciting, you know, with all due respect to Alex Smire,

445
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 1: but on defense, certainly there's something to be excited about.

446
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: And they're playing fun games. All right, it's snakes to you,

447
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 1: Mr Rosenthal. All Right, I'm going with another early game.

448
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 1: Bears Vikings can Mitchell Rabinsky disappoint Bears fans one final time.

449
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 1: This might be the biggest game of the week. It

450
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: really is, because one of these so mean to match

451
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 1: it is unbelievable. With a punching bag that poor guy

452
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 1: is that that's fair, But it's kind of an oaky

453
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: dock because you just see the coverage in Chicago this week.

454
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: They have so many people covering the game, They're so

455
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 1: well represented in terms of their fans, and you just see, like,

456
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 1: where has this offense been all season? Where was this?

457
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinsky is naggy back in his two thousand and

458
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: eighteen bags. Wow, they've got you, and you can kind

459
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: of see the hope building and I keep thinking, well,

460
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 1: I just played the Lions and the Texans. That's where

461
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: it's been. And uh, this Vikings defense isn't great, but

462
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: it's a much better coach in Mike Zimmer and so

463
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: I have some doubts whether Mitch can keep up this

464
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 1: hot streak. I love loser home games. So we've got

465
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: two six and seven teams here, so that's nice, that's fun.

466
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: It's basically a race to nine and seven. It looks

467
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 1: like for that final things can change, obviously, but in

468
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: the NFC, get to nine wins and you should be

469
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: in good shape. So whoever loses this game get ready

470
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: for the golf course sizzler. Well, I would just I

471
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: would point out that our our longtime friend of the show,

472
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: Bill Laser us since he's taken over play calling duties

473
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: the auten a friend points a game, well, I would say,

474
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 1: you know, he just use the friendships where he has

475
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: no we use the sound effect. But yeah, we use

476
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 1: the sound effect and we talked about it a lot.

477
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: But he's not a friend. But go ahead. I just

478
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: want to make that clear. I would as much as

479
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 1: we're making friends with anyone, he's he's a friend. But um,

480
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, David mcgomer Montgomery has been a completely different

481
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 1: back and a completely different rushing operations since Bill Laser

482
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: has taken over place. I don't know what that means.

483
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: It's just that their offense has finally been watchable. And

484
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: if you're the Vikings and someone told you a week

485
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: ago on this show, hey, they're gonna have the ball

486
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 1: for forty minutes in a Mike Zimmer fever dream against

487
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: the Bucks, They're gonna they're gonna basically just give the

488
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: Bucks very little time to operate with and your kicker

489
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: is gonna cost you ten points and you're not gonna

490
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: win that game. I mean, you've got to put up

491
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: more points here. And I want to believe in the

492
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: Vikings um as you have in the past in but

493
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 1: to me, part of me is just like, oh, yeah,

494
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: you're an eight and eight team and you're gonna take

495
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: us on this snaking course all year long and it's

496
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: gonna and ultimately just result in a record with um

497
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: some things to focus on in a very long winters

498
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: nap off season. I mean, the Vikings very easily could

499
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: have won that game last week. Like you're saying, Dan

500
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: Bailey completely gagged and he collapsed, and you know that happens,

501
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: especially when it's the Vikings. The kickers always tend to

502
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 1: find a way to destroy a team's hopes. But it's like,

503
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: when you watch that game, did you see a Bucks

504
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 1: team that was like blowing the Vikings out of the

505
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: water And that felt like a game that could have

506
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: absolutely went the other way without this calamity. So um,

507
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: but you have to I will say this, yes, for

508
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: the past three weeks now, the Vikings have not been

509
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: playing at a very high crisp level. So if that's

510
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: basically now the tenor of their season, I agree eight

511
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: and eates where this is gonna be um. But who knows.

512
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: Maybe they get get right in this game and they

513
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: do close out. I don't rule out them getting to

514
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: night and seven and getting that playoff pick, but they

515
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: need to. They're in a bit of a funk. It's

516
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 1: time to get out of it. Yeah, what do we

517
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 1: do with the Bears make the playoffs? I mean, I

518
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: think that that um would be one of the more

519
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: unbelievable endings to this season. I mean, it's very possible

520
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: they got the Jags next week. I think they finished

521
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Speaker 1: with the Packers, who could be resting their starters in

522
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: weeks sevens interesting. It's that's why this is interesting. You're right,

523
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean the Packers if they rest, this is a

524
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: huge game. Oh no, the Bears fans, you guys are

525
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: gonna be so sucked in. I hope they doesn't go

526
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: the way I think it goes, with Mitch killing you

527
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: at the end. Oh boy. All right. Time now for

528
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: a Road to Victory presented by the United States States

529
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Speaker 1: Marine Corps and UH yes, it is time to talk

530
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: about the Cleveland Browns and we just you know, we

531
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: just saw what they did with the Ravens one of

532
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: the great games. Well, at the end of this decade,

533
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: this will be on the list of top ten games

534
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: of the decade. Unfortunately Cleveland on the wrong side of

535
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: final but at the same time, a lot of optimism

536
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,239
Speaker 1: still reigned supreme in Cleveland. Now they go to the

537
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: Meadowlands to face a Giants team that has all sorts

538
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: of issues at quarterback Mark Sesslo. This sets up well

539
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: for the Browns to get that tenth win that gets

540
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: them almost definitely into the playoffs. Almost definitely, you'd think

541
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: so I would have felt a lot better about them

542
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: playing the Giants back in Week four something. Um, this team,

543
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: this defense, uh, you know, they were lash. Their offense

544
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: was lashed by the Cardinals a week ago. But go

545
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: inside that game. There was a turnover where the Cardinals

546
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 1: had the ball deep and Giants territory and that Giants defense,

547
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: UM put up a pretty valiant goal line stand And

548
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: that tells me who they are. Guys like Leonard Williams,

549
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: Chase Coughlin, these guys are playing really well for Joe judge.

550
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: So I think this is an interesting matchup, and let's

551
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,239
Speaker 1: not look past the fact that because Jason Garrett has

552
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: been put on the COVID list, suddenly, in the one

553
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: of the weirder scenarios of anything I've ever seen in football,

554
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens will be calling plays. The Browns ex head

555
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: coach who was dismissed after one year against the Browns

556
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: and it could be Colt McCoy at quarterback, and it

557
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: could be Jabriel Peppers, it's safety, the player that the

558
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: Browns traded away, and the Odell beckat Maybe you gotta

559
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: get Odell be on the brown sideline throwing tomatoes at

560
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: the Giants, Like did you tell any revenge aspects could

561
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: be going on here? I mean if you hit there

562
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 1: is a rule. Not everyone knows this, but if you

563
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: get up to three revenge games for one side, they

564
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 1: definitely win. So Big Blue. All of a sudden, it

565
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: looks like a favorite here. That's amazing. And your son,

566
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: Cole has to be feeling can like the mark. You

567
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: know you you famously named him after Colt McCoy, and

568
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: you have to be like, no, son, we're rooting for

569
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: the Browns tonight. Your namesake, who's gonna rip my heart

570
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: out with Freddie Kitchen. I was thinking about locking up

571
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: this game for the Browns because I do feel like

572
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: they are the much better team here and that Kevin's

573
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: the fancy is gonna prove us something. But all this voodoo,

574
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to do it anymore.

575
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to be on the wrong side of

576
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: that voodoo. You're nervous because you're so close. Now, you're

577
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: so close. I I think the Browns look at the

578
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: one thing I'd say and the way they got up

579
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: for the Ravens game, and they've done a pretty good

580
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: job of kind of here's the game, here's the result,

581
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: package it away, move on. I mean, they haven't lost

582
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: two in a row all year. Uh, they've found a

583
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: way to bounce back, and I trust them. I think

584
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: they're flat out the better team. Uh, They're They're there.

585
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: They're a great offense in the second half. We saw

586
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: that against Baltimore. Other Browns teams, when you're down thirty

587
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: four to twenty, they fold. Every Browns team I've seen

588
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: this century folds in that situation. This team is a

589
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: little bit different. The go denzil Ward back. I think

590
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 1: that matters a lot. I mean, you have to look

591
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: at the Giants offense and say, if they're gonna win

592
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: this game, who's gonna do it? Who do you lean

593
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: on from the Giants offense and say they're gonna put

594
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: up twenty four points and take care of Cleveland. I

595
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: I kind of struggle to find that character too in

596
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: the New York big Blue offense, right and you think

597
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: about who's gonna dictate. It's such a great coaching match

598
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: of Patrick Graham, the Giants defensive coordinator, or Kevin Stefanski.

599
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: You know, Stefanski is like a pretty cool guy. He

600
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't give off a lot, but when

601
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: you I think about him as aggressive, and I think

602
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: his offense is always dictating to the defense. He's always

603
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: one step ahead. They spread the ball around, whereas Patrick

604
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: Graham on the Giant side of the ball is almost

605
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: always dictating defensively. He is not gonna let like an

606
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: offense come to him. He's gonna make them adjust to

607
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: what he's trying to do. It's an offense first league.

608
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 1: I like the Browns talent a little bit better on offense,

609
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: but to me, that's a fascinating matchup, and it's one

610
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: I think Stefanski can win because he's got the horses.

611
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: He's got the offensive line, which to me is like

612
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: the ultimate equalizer, maybe the best offensive line in the NFL.

613
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: Have we given any thought because the Browns are analytics mad.

614
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: They love it. They they have all sorts of resources

615
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: tied into that. Kevin Stefanski not the most animated guy.

616
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: In fact, maybe the least animated guy I've ever seen.

617
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: Plus you have a mask over his face. Just don't

618
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: want to rule it out. Is he a humanoid? Is

619
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: it possible he's not a real person. And the Browns

620
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: have taken the analytics tilt here all the way to

621
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: the sideline with a robot, I would I would say

622
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: this If that's the case, Um, I'm fine with that.

623
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: It would it would raise ethical issues the league, by

624
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: the laws of the league. I don't know. It's a

625
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: handsome Robot's robot right there? Good look at robot. It

626
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: would be well, of course it would. If you're gonna

627
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: make a robot, you might as well make it handsome.

628
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: It would be that that would be the most Browns

629
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: thing ever. If they go eleven and five and then

630
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: the NFL you know, uncovers what's going on there, like, no,

631
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: you're not going to the playoffs. You had a robit

632
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: on the sideline that would be that would be terrible.

633
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: But you know what, mark back to serious UH reflection

634
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: on this game. One thing Cleveland has done all year

635
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: is take care of business and it would be shocking

636
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: if they don't do it here they have to and

637
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: then they got the Jets next week. You gotta get

638
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: to eleven wins in this AFC. I think you do. Alright.

639
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Speaker 1: That was Road to Victory presented by the United States

640
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 1: Marine Corps. All right, moving along, let's step back into

641
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: the Saturday schedule and talk about the Carolina Panthers at

642
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. The Packers, of course, moved into the

643
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: number one slot in the NFC playoff UH structure with

644
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,239
Speaker 1: a win last week, coupled with the Saints law, so

645
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: they have it all out in front of them. If

646
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: they win out, they have the number one seed and

647
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: they have to buy the all important buy there's only

648
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: one this year for each conference, and then of course

649
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: home field for the two games in the NFC playoffs

650
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: if they get that far. The Panther us they've lost

651
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: seven of eight as we know, uh, So it feels

652
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: like it's going to be more of the same, a

653
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: hyper uh motivated Packers team mark with Aaron Rodgers with

654
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: a passer rating damn near one twenty this year and

655
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: knocking on the door of forty touchdowns. It's been astounding

656
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: to watch what he's done this year. And you and

657
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: you had a sandwich bet way back in the summer

658
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: that he uh could be the m v P And

659
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: he has nine All Pro and that's in the best

660
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: I think he's gone. I think he could he could

661
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: pull off both of those awards. He has nine games

662
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: with three or more touchdown passes in zero picks this season.

663
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: That is the most by any quarterback in NFL history.

664
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: So I don't know what else you want him to do.

665
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: And I would say that the Aaron Rodgers Davante Adams

666
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: connection is the most dangerous thing that any NFC playoff

667
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: team can offer right now. It's been completely unstoppable. And

668
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: you know, I know people are down on Mike Petton,

669
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: but I still think that Mike Petton in the defense

670
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: can do just enough. You know, he's got a copy

671
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: of the Warren Commission in his Bookshelf back at home.

672
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: I think the guy's an interesting character. We're gonna get

673
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: a little Matt Rule on national television. I like this

674
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: game a lot, and you know what, green Bay winning

675
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: the bye. That's great. This is one of the true

676
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: home field advantage setups because you probably are going to

677
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: get a team from sunny little Tampa Bay coming into

678
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: Green Bay. You're gonna pull the scenes out of the

679
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: pretty little dome. They're got to go into horrible weather

680
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: and this could be the year the Green Bay says, listen,

681
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: this is the setup for us to get back to

682
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. People said that we should have gotten

683
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: to five or six other times when Mike McCarthy was

684
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: the coach. You brought up the Bucks as the example.

685
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: Tom Brady made his bones winning super Bowls up in

686
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: New England, so I don't know if he would be

687
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: like taken aback by the but that's that's He also

688
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: said he never wanted to move or be a new

689
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: in the in the in the Northeast ever. Again, he

690
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: has a nice tan in December. He's a warm weather guy.

691
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: Now you know he's got all that well, I'm not

692
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going that far, but his arms fine. I

693
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: think Drew Brees is the guy that you want throwing

694
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: the ball in frigid Lambeau in j Annuary, and yeah,

695
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: you're right there only three wines away. It's hard to

696
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: imagine the Panthers sticking in this game. Their their offensive line,

697
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: they're really an offense. First team is really banged up.

698
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: They might be missing two or three starters. And you

699
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: think about Rogers this year compared to last year, and like,

700
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: the team's not that different, But to me it's it's

701
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: sort of a great example of that even the all

702
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: time greats, I think, go up and down with the

703
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: people around them, whether that's coaching, um, you know, continuity, synchronicity,

704
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: everyone being on the same page. Like it really is

705
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: the ultimate team sport. It's kind of a cliche, but

706
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: I actually think we almost make the quarterbacks into too

707
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: big a deal because if someone as good as Aaron

708
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: Rodgers in the middle of what should be his prime

709
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: can still have three or four straight pretty down statistical years,

710
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: to me, that is kind of proof. Not that he's

711
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: like part of the Dalton scale where he's rising and falling,

712
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: but even the great ones need the entire team and

713
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: his coaching staff to all be playing well together and

714
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: and this is a perfect way to show it because

715
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: they didn't add anyone. It was like like if we'd

716
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: be putting it all on like a free agent edition

717
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: or a draft pick if they had added anyone, but

718
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: they didn't. Like it's the same team, but they're all

719
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: playing better. And No, I think there's a lot of

720
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: logic to what you just said, But I don't want

721
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: to take anything away from Rogers and what it took

722
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: for him to scale these heights again, these heights of

723
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: supreme greatness. I mean, he's he's gonna win potentially his

724
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: third m v P. And I think there it took

725
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: buy in from Rogers and maybe some changes to his mindset,

726
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: maybe some changes physically in the offseason. I don't know

727
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: so much about that, but to get to where he

728
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: is now, this has been something that I think even

729
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: transcends a little bit about those factors. You talk about

730
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: something that he did that made him this way again,

731
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: and it's been kind of a marvel to watch really.

732
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: And you think about the Panthers defense, there's this whole

733
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: idea of in the NFL, well, make make teams go

734
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: down the field ten twelve plays. Eventually they'll make a mistake.

735
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: That was the Lions plan last week. I mean, the

736
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: Packers offense like did anything they wanted against the Lions,

737
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: but it was only a touchdown game at the end

738
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: because they slowed it down. It's like, good luck, that's

739
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: not gonna work against Rogers. He's not gonna make any

740
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: of those mistakes. He's just gonna take your ten plays

741
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: and he's gonna score a touchdown. He's gonna cast those checks.

742
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: All I say is Caroline is not a team that

743
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: gets blown out. Though this season they're They're imperfect, They've

744
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: got a ways to go. Teddy Bridgewater is not playing

745
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: his best football right now, but they hang around in

746
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: these games. And I we're probably gonna get a seventy

747
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: eight yard Joey Slive field goal attempt at some point

748
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: because Matt Rules seems obsessed with that. But I think

749
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: this will be an interesting game. But green Bay is

750
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: too powerful. Probably no Christian McCaffrey again, as he now

751
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: deals with that thigh injury. Um so that obviously is

752
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: not great. And watch out. It's gonna be very frustrating

753
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: a few Panthers fans because the Packers are converting of

754
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 1: their third downs this year, which is the best rate

755
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: in I believe, almost thirty years. And the Panthers are

756
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the league just about they give

757
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: up about a lot of conversions. A lot of conversions

758
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: and another huge day for Davante Adams coming. Let's move on,

759
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, back to the draft, back to you, Well,

760
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: I gotta pick a late game to organize how we

761
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: cover these contests on Son, I'm gonna go Philadelphia at Arizona.

762
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: And you know, I was staying away from the Eagles

763
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: the best I could for the last couple of months

764
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm sitting here trying to cover a

765
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: game and it would I'd fall into a deep sleep

766
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: about sixty five minutes into half of their contests because

767
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: they were one of the most boring attacks I've seen.

768
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: With Jailing Hurts, I thought he brought life. He brought

769
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: some urgency last week. Um you know, the first quarterback

770
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: around to run for a hundred yards in his first

771
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: game like as he did. I think he brings an

772
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: element to Philadelphia's offense where they kind of operate a

773
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: little bit as a berserker right now, when we like

774
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: to use the term for teams that can disrupt playoff

775
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: hopefuls down the stretch in Arizona. Right now, you you

776
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: have to deal with the Eagles, the forty nine and

777
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: the Rams. They are on the brink, are on the brink,

778
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not seeing the best version of their offense

779
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: right now. But you did get a little bit more

780
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: from Kyler Murray on the ground last week. I think

781
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's ready to rumble. Um. This is a

782
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: fascinating quarterback matchup. I want to watch it for that reason.

783
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: And I think the Cardinals defense, you know, they're pretty frisky.

784
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: They're not perfect, but they have guys that seen to

785
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: make plays every week. Eight sacks last week, costs On

786
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: Riddick had five of those. I mean, they show up.

787
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: So this is an intriguing matchup against a bad Eagles

788
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: offensive line. Reddick had twelve and a half sacks his

789
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: entire career before Sunday, So that was a long overdue

790
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: big afternoon for a guy that hasn't always lived up

791
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: to the hype. Yeah, it will be interesting to see

792
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 1: Jaleen Hurts. Everybody wants to see an Eagles team without

793
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: Um Carson Wentz because that offense had flatlined and now

794
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: they have a pulse again, So yes, I like that

795
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: for draft pick purposes. Kyler Murray, I'm not going to

796
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: go back to the well great because you don't like

797
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: to hear it, especially for some reason. But you know,

798
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: he had the shoulder on the Thursday night. If you

799
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: look at the numbers and he's studying with how this off,

800
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: it's his changed in those three weeks. Maybe it's just

801
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with it, but they are not

802
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: doing anything outside the numbers anymore. They're not creating big

803
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: plays outside the numbers since that Thursday night when he

804
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: had the shoulder injury. Maybe it has nothing to do

805
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: with because he made some really nice throws where he

806
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: showed off the arm strength, but they they have not

807
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: been as explosive this month. They weren't in September though either.

808
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he ran well last week and he threw

809
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: the ball really well a couple of weeks ago in

810
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: terms of his armching, so I'm not worried about that.

811
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: I would like the Eagles in this game to make

812
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: some hey here, coming off their best offensive game of

813
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: the year. It's almost like in Philly they're trying not

814
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: to hurt Carson Wentz his feelings by pointing that out.

815
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: But the Eagles lost three defensive backs in that game.

816
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: They lost their right tackle, Jack Driscoll, who was their

817
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: backup right tackle but actually been playing pretty well. So

818
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: like right when you have something good happened, they lose

819
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: another four starters. Uh, they're not even out of it.

820
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: Forget Berserker. They're only a game and a half back

821
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: and they finished with Washington. So if they could win

822
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: another one of these games and get a little bit

823
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: of help from Ohton, they're not out of it. And

824
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: this Eagules team does have a history of doing that.

825
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: In December, I learned that Mark by reading one of

826
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: my favorite books. This is called Fearless by Doug Peter.

827
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: It's just like life lessons and um wise thoughts and

828
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 1: kind of just inspiration to me from a guy who

829
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: reached the mountaintop and it accomplished everything in life and

830
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: just beautifully written. One of my favorite Christmas books to

831
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: give to people. Fearless by Doug Peterson. I know you're

832
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: a big fan, Mark, and if I could, just if

833
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: I could piggyback off that Mark, I just want to say,

834
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: once a champion, always a champion. Sorry, you should keep

835
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: that in mind too. Before you criticize Doug Peterson, Mr. South,

836
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going to critique him. I mean,

837
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: if if he can again, um have Carson Wentz sideline

838
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: and the backup quarterback comes in and leads them to

839
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: another playoff appearance, playoff wins in a Super Bowl. You know,

840
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: write a sequel to that book, still Fearless, book, Fearless

841
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: too Fearless. Uh. You know there was talk about, you know,

842
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: going into last week's game. Oh, you know the Eagles

843
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: they stink it off and so much as anybody believe

844
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: that Doug Peterson is going to be able to adopt

845
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: adapt with this new quarterback, well this seem like they

846
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: did a little bit last week. So I'm with I'm

847
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: with you. This is a good value pick. Mark. All right,

848
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: let us spin right along. Let's get back to the

849
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: Saturday slate. The Buffalo Bills at Denver Broncos. Nice little

850
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: game here. You know, the Broncos are so kind of

851
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: up and down. M They're They're not a They're one

852
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: of those are the are they the best bad team?

853
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: Are the worst good team type teams? For me? So, uh,

854
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: they are a worthy challenger at home against the Bills.

855
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: But I ask you this. I'm gonna ask a straight

856
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: question just to get this conversationation going. Mark Sessler, is

857
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen a superstar quarterback? You know, I'm starting to

858
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: think I'm starting to think so. And I mean, I

859
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: guess the definition of that would be, you know, it

860
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: would be up to me versus someone else's definition superstar.

861
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: But watching the last couple of weeks and also I

862
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: think that, um, if you look at the arc of

863
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: his development and all the pressing questions about Josh Allen

864
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: coming into the season and people kind of looking at

865
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: his game and saying, these are things that can't get fixed,

866
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: I think he's fixed a lot of them. And I

867
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 1: think that he makes the entire offense uh a hurly burly,

868
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: dangerous operation, tough to coach against. Um, he's incredibly powerful.

869
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: I don't see too many things he can't do. And

870
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: if he can reduce the mistakes which he's done, they

871
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: can beat any team in the league. So that checks

872
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: a lot of boxes for me. I mean, maybe there's

873
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: tiered superstars, but he's in that conversation, UM convincingly for me. Well,

874
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: you do the superstar club, which I think is uh great.

875
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: The way you do it. I think being a superstar

876
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: takes some longevity and consistency, you know, and so I

877
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: think Alan's on that path. But if he flames out

878
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: in a playoff game, you know, if for whatever reason,

879
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: the end of this season doesn't go like, no, I

880
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: don't think he's there yet. Like Caron Wentz, we might

881
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: have put him there, you know, too quickly. Jared Goff

882
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: had a little stretch like we Derek Carrs had stretches.

883
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: People have stretches, and Alan is more compelling to me,

884
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: um than those guys. I guess Wentz was certainly back

885
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: in seen just because of his story and because of

886
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: his physical traits. So as long as he stays on

887
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: this path, uh, he is. But he's he's got to

888
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: keep doing it like I'm not. That's crazy to say,

889
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm with you. You definitely want to

890
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: see a big playoff run, and maybe that happens as

891
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: soon as this January, UM, and maybe even another year

892
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: of this before you kind of put him in that

893
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: like top top tier of superstar quarterbacks, guys that actually

894
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: change the game just by being there. But he is

895
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: on pace to finish this season with basically every Bill's

896
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: record for an individual season highest completion percentage, which is

897
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: nearly which was a major aspect of his game that

898
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: people questioned, most passing yards game, most touchdowns. He's got

899
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: a shout at forty touchdowns this year a good shot.

900
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: Had a passer rating that is in the one oh

901
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: five territory. So, I mean, it's been an amazing ride.

902
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: And uh, Denver, the Denver defense. I know they've had

903
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: moments this season and they're not a total pushover, but

904
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: I don't imagine they're gonna be able to stop stop them.

905
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: So then it becomes to me, does Drew Lock have

906
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: the magic that he somehow conjured last week to keep

907
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: this game close? I watched that Broncos game hoping for

908
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: like a great Drew Lock performance, and you know what,

909
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: I don't think that was the case. I think he had.

910
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: I think it was more about the scheme and wide

911
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: open receivers and really wasn't like a crazy He had

912
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: a couple of nice throws, but guys were opened by

913
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: fifteen yards. He did make a couple of bone headed plays,

914
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: Um had a key fumble, could have had a late

915
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: interception that gave the Panthers the game. So let's see it.

916
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: I've seen though that the Broncos fans trot out, and

917
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: now I think a lot of fans are gonna do

918
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: this with the quarterbacks that they believe in too much,

919
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: their homegrown guys that they want to stick byd trot out. Hey,

920
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 1: here's Drew Lock's first fifth Sean starts, here's Josh Allen's first.

921
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: But because but, and I don't think that. I don't

922
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: think that makes sense. But Josh Allen's first, you know,

923
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: a year and a half, Like that's gonna it's gonna

924
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: work that way because those stats are terrible. Yeah, except

925
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: that Josh Allen is bringing things to the field that

926
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: Drew Lock could only dream of doing just based off

927
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: of you know, natural gifts. I I I think that

928
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: if if Josh Allen takes the Bills to the a

929
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: f C title game and they go down to the wire, um,

930
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: I do put him in a superstar category. But I

931
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: maybe we just have seen this differently. I mean, we

932
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: we put to Shawn Watson in that category quickly. Longevity

933
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: didn't apply to that quarterback. I I disagree though. To me,

934
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 1: he's been a top seven or eight quarterback for three years,

935
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: like that's how good he's been and so I want

936
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: to see that. What's it Probably just takes one more

937
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: season of Allen doing it, But you're right, like the

938
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: decisions that he was making against Buffalo, the pocket movement,

939
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: like that's showing maturity, Like that's showing the stuff that

940
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: Watson was showing his second and third season two. That

941
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: to me is like, you're gonna stick as a quarterback

942
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: if you're like that, right. This is a great Saturday game,

943
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: late season game. Because usually you're not. They don't give

944
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: you like a huge, big time match up in these

945
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: Saturday games at the end of the regular season. But

946
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: if if you're lucky, you'll get a frisky one. This

947
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: is a you get to watch the Bills and ascended team,

948
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: the Broncos, as I said, they they're frisky to hang

949
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: around in games, and you get to, you know, pour

950
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: yourself a little Tito's and and and really sit back

951
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: and enjoy. And I did, like, I want to give

952
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: a guy a little bit of love. He's not popular

953
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: around these parts. I understand. Uh. I like the Pat Shermer.

954
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: If you want to talk about that Broncos win over

955
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: the Panthers, dialing up that deep shot to kJ Hamler

956
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: to essentially clinch the game. I like when coaches go

957
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: outside the box a little bit and say we're not

958
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: gonna run it three times to kill the clock. We

959
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: want a stick of a dagger through the heart. I

960
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: don't think that Shermer's m O. Really, that is all

961
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: about what Drew Lock likes. Drew Lock is a born

962
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: gun slinger who just wants the opportunity to do that

963
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: all the time. So it was good to see that

964
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: aspect of the fence uh in a big spot and

965
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: only took a little bit of love. Only took three

966
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: plus months to you know, dial up a risky they got.

967
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: They got enough talent there. That's I think Wylock season

968
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: has been so disappointing is because you cannot put it

969
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: on the supporting cast or even the offensive line, which

970
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: has been better before. He quickly fangio is a test

971
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: for quarterbacks to pass. He really is. He makes things difficult.

972
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: He makes even veterans like Teddy Bridge on Our hold

973
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: the ball not really know what they're seeing. And so

974
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: I I don't think this is an easy test for

975
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: Alan at Off. He if he blows the doors off

976
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: the Broncos that's super impressive. The Broncos, to your point, uh, Greg,

977
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: have drafted four wide receivers or tight ends in the

978
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: first two rounds eighteen Jerry Judy, kJ Hamler, Noah Fense,

979
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton. Sutton not there of course this year, but

980
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: there is a lot of pieces there if you could

981
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: ever get consistent play behind center. Lock has This is

982
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: another audition for him at the end of the season.

983
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: He's got to nail it. I would think to stay

984
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: seriously in the plans as a first strink quarterback for them.

985
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: In all right, let's move forward. The old Zeuser up

986
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: in the draft and let me go with all right,

987
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: did hammana Hamana hammana hammana uh Tampa Bay at Atlanta.

988
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: I want to see the Bucks. I want to see

989
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: what's going on with these Bucks. Then. I love the

990
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: way they looked against the Vikings last week. I thought

991
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: they would come out of that by and you know,

992
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: be a little sharper than they were. Um on offense especially,

993
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 1: I will say it looked really bad early on. Brady

994
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: looked out of sorts again, missing open receivers, and then

995
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: they kind of put it together. Um down the stretch

996
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: on offense, and made made enough plays uh to get

997
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: it done. But you have now Ronald Jones. Uh, he

998
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: is at the time of this taping up in the air.

999
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: He had surgery first of all, got a pin put

1000
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: into his pinky, which obviously is not a great thing

1001
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: for a running back. And then he got moved to

1002
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: the COVID list And I don't know. I think we

1003
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a close designation sich wation, which

1004
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: would mean he could be cleared for Sunday, or if

1005
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: he actually has the coronavirus, which would put him out obviously,

1006
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: So there's some unknown factors there. Leonard Fournette wasn't even

1007
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: activated out of the by which tells you that that

1008
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: that experiment is not going how Bruce Arians would have

1009
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: wanted it. Tom Brady like sent a note an email

1010
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: to Bruce Arians during the buy or they met up

1011
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: and he was just like, let's let's get out of

1012
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: their show. This is uh. And my other thought before

1013
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: a throw to you guys on this because I'm going

1014
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: to be more bucks leaning in terms of my focus

1015
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: of this game is Scotty Miller. He has a big

1016
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: fifty yard touchdown, while Antonio Brown just I guess settles

1017
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: into a possession receiver, averaging about seven or eight yards

1018
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: a catch. So that experiment hasn't quite worked out for

1019
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay as it turns out. Will their offense be

1020
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: better in this game, we'll see. So I I have

1021
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: such a problem with this Bucks team. I don't know

1022
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: what to think, and I think I've come to something here.

1023
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: And that's that Arians. Even though we think of him

1024
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: as you know, like this bombs away guy, no risk it,

1025
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: no biscuit, he's kind of conservative in the way that

1026
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: he represents like old NFL values. First of all, he

1027
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: never goes for it on fourth down and he kicks

1028
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: a field goal in the last play of the half

1029
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: at the one yard line, give me a break. But

1030
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: in in the other way, he's what I remember people

1031
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: used to talk about about the Peyton Manning Colts, and

1032
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: Arians was on that staff. And so that's what made

1033
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: me think of it too, is that it was like

1034
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: the teams like the Patriots who game plan each week

1035
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: and change things up in motion and do all this

1036
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: thing to dictate matchups, which at the time not every

1037
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: team was doing. Or there's like the Peyton mann and

1038
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: Colts who are like an execution offense. We're gonna do

1039
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: what we do. You kind of know what we're gonna do,

1040
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: and you gotta try to stop it. And like and

1041
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: that's like how the Seas defense has been over there,

1042
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: Like defenses are certain ways like that and that that

1043
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: could work with the amount of talent they have, and

1044
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: it's worked for Arians throughout his career, but it doesn't

1045
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: work when like all these players are new together and

1046
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: Brady is relying on timing, and like the timing just

1047
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: isn't there. And so I think that's why you see

1048
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: such inconsistency. Like when it's working, it looks great for

1049
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: a quarter, but like when defenses kind of know what

1050
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna do, it's pretty hard. I mean, you go

1051
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: back to to flip it to the Falcons that when

1052
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan switched UH coordinators and El Shanahan came in

1053
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: that first year was you know, it's easy to forget

1054
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: he was not the same old Matt Ryan. And then

1055
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: the next year lights out Super Bowl appearance, and you know,

1056
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: it's this has been a process for Tom Brady, it's

1057
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: been a process for all them. I also think you're

1058
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: getting the you're getting, You're truly getting the latter stages,

1059
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and and um, you know, there's just no

1060
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: way around that. But I'm watching Matt Ryan right now

1061
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: and he's he's stilling five touchdowns and six picks over

1062
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: the last four weeks. He had to apologize to the

1063
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: team after his last appearance, and you know, you got

1064
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: a coach and Raheem Morris that if he keeps his

1065
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: job and these games were the main matter. They play

1066
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: the Bucks twice over the next three weeks. They've had

1067
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: one of the weirdest schedules all season. Um, but you

1068
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: know you want to keep it. He's not keeping this job.

1069
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: I mean the owner said he practically had to go

1070
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: out love and I know he's four and four it now.

1071
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: He's done a fine job. I think he has done

1072
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: a good job. I don't know what like he He

1073
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: is not dealing with a full deck of cards in

1074
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: terms of this roster, and they've improved. But you're right,

1075
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: I think they'll do a wide search. But um, good

1076
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: for him. I mean, I watched Falcons. They can't run

1077
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: the ball. But we're not getting Matt Ryan right now.

1078
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we see see Julio Jones again this season.

1079
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: So if the Bucks can't answer, you know, the challenge here,

1080
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: Who are the Bucks? I'm I'm kind of with you

1081
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: guys that I thought earlier in the year that this

1082
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: was a team that would be on fire at this point,

1083
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: and instead I find them puzzling and kind of um

1084
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: a one and done playoff team potentially. I mean, it

1085
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: really is. It is. There's something to take from it

1086
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: because it happens every year, and it's the Bucks this

1087
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: year that sometimes a team not to write them off

1088
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: because there is a lot of talent there, but if

1089
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: they if they continue on this traject three where they're

1090
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: okay and maybe they get into the playoffs, but they're

1091
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: not not necessarily a big time player. Teams peak sometimes

1092
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: in October and we'll take it them for the super

1093
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: Bowl and then it's like, wait a second, this is

1094
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: a long season. They're looking right now. But things got

1095
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: so I think I think we all did well. They

1096
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: all they looked when they were at their peak in October.

1097
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: Everything was humming. The defense was as good as any

1098
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: defense in football. Tom Brady had cranked back the clock

1099
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: about five or six years. Uh. He was getting on

1100
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: the same page with his playmakers. It just was all

1101
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: there and then for whatever reason they have not been

1102
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: able to keep it at that place. Maybe it's a

1103
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: schedule plays into that as well. Here's the thing, though,

1104
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: if they're the seventh seed or the sixth seed, and

1105
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: you're the Packers or you know, the Rams or some

1106
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: team the Bucks, I totally have the capability to go

1107
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: win by thirty in the wild card round and then

1108
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: lose the divisional round. But they like they could just

1109
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: beat anyone on anything. Don't that. I mean I could

1110
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: see them winning, I don't. I don't see anything from

1111
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: this team to say they would go into the playoffs

1112
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: and blowbody out, right, I don't know. Well, I think

1113
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: I would have said that, you know, seven weeks ago,

1114
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: hanging they're hanging out with that defense, creating some turnovers.

1115
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: But you love them, You love them, Greg because they

1116
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: they are favorably d v o A. They seem balanced

1117
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: and favorable and all that stuff, right, But I like

1118
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: to the eye, um, you know, they have these moments

1119
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: in these halves where they do that. But to me,

1120
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: just I want to see more consistency. And they're not

1121
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: a very special running attack. I mean to the fact

1122
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: that you've got healthy scratches from guys who were you know,

1123
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: starring for you if you want to use the word

1124
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: starring a couple of weeks ago. They don't feel like

1125
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: a very balanced attack on win this game, and they're

1126
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: in the playoffs almost definitely. That gives them at nine

1127
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: and five. Uh, and they play the Lions and then

1128
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: they play the Falcons again. Well, they're lucky there in

1129
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: the end, they're getting in, they're getting all right, let's

1130
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: move on. I will it's Snakes the Older and I will,

1131
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: uh take a look at another playoff bound team playing

1132
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: against a dead dog team, Houston at Indianapolis, and uh, yeah,

1133
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: this feels like a really set up. It's really set

1134
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: up well for the Colts. Who you know? This this

1135
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: rise of Jonathan Taylor changes kind of so much about

1136
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,959
Speaker 1: the way I look at the Colts, because my whole

1137
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: thing has been I don't trust Philip Rivers. He's gonna

1138
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: get him killed at some point with a terrible mistake

1139
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be too much on his plate, and

1140
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: he probably still will kill the Colts. Ultimately, I do

1141
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: believe he's got one of those moments in him, even

1142
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: if it happens in the divisional playoffs or something. Like

1143
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: that or even the NFC title game. You never know.

1144
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: But I just love what Jonathan Taylor has brought to

1145
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: this offense, the balance, and then you look at it

1146
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: and I don't want to be like, I don't want

1147
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: people to misconstrue this because the Chiefs are the class

1148
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: of the conference. But you can make the case that

1149
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: the Colts have the most balanced team in the a

1150
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: f C when you look at them from each positional group.

1151
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: So I expect them to take care of business against

1152
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: the Houston team that's just completely shredded. We know on

1153
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: defense they don't have anything, uh, to the point where J. J.

1154
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: Watt was so downtrodden saying, we're not even competitive, and

1155
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: then Deshaun Watson doesn't have a lot to work with

1156
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: on offense because the suspensions and COVID and UH injuries. Uh.

1157
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: It feels like a great spot for the Colts to

1158
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: get to win ten and really crank up the heat

1159
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: on the Titans to keep up. I think it does.

1160
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: But I also remember that game two weeks ago they

1161
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: just played, and it could not have been more evenly

1162
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: played between these two teams. There were very lucky to

1163
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: get out of that. Well. They also beat the Packers

1164
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: in a in a game where you know you wouldn't

1165
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: have thought that would have happened at halftime. I I'm

1166
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: with you, Dan, and I see them as balanced, but

1167
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 1: I don't see them as special necessarily. Um. Their offense

1168
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: has been held by Taylor. They've been helped a ton

1169
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: by t Y Hilton. After essentially playing the role of

1170
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: a ghost early on in the year, last three games,

1171
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: did you do that on purpose? They call him ghost liked,

1172
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: not recesses of your mind? I feel like you didn't

1173
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: know that, say of these nicknames, I don't track like,

1174
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't know why are we calling him over nicknames?

1175
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: I mean, well, what so Tom Brady? So I have

1176
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: to call Tom Brady the Pharaoh? Well, no one actually

1177
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: calls that, but for for whatever is? And am I right?

1178
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm not? I'm not even sure I'm right here. I

1179
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: don't know what is? What is? The nicknames? Saying that

1180
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: he is able to slip through defens and days of

1181
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: old Basically you can't find him, you don't know where

1182
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: he is, you know, Well, that's how the Colts offense

1183
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: felt for a large chunk of the season. Now he's

1184
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: materialized into someone we can see in the flesh. Doesn't

1185
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: It's not even on Pro Football Reference, which, like Marcus saying,

1186
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: if it's not there, it's not really Hilton ghosts. And

1187
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: you'll be taken to one three inc. Dot com, the

1188
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: official online store of t Y Hilton the Ghost you

1189
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: can get some ghost material. Maybe I'll get you some

1190
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: for Christmas. I mean you've got that, You've got the

1191
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson biography. You seem like the likely candidate to

1192
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: the three of us to have, uh, you know, t

1193
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: Y Hilton Ghost um pair of mill as well. It's

1194
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: a good bit um. How about a little Frank Reich

1195
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: appreciation In the year everyone is getting mentioned for Coach

1196
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,959
Speaker 1: of the Year. He's not going to. But you watch

1197
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: this team and I think it's just a really well

1198
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: run offense. I think if you gave about twenty five

1199
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: coaches this offensive personnel, uh, they wouldn't be doing nearly

1200
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: as well as Frank Reich is doing with it. He

1201
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: presents a lot of problems for defenses. That's why I'm

1202
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: with you, Dan, they should beat the Texans. I just

1203
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: remember that game from two weeks ago so well, and

1204
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: division games are weird, and it was so evenly played.

1205
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 1: The Colts were really lucky. You're putting them in that club, Greig.

1206
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: I like your your old theory that there's only a

1207
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: handful of coaches and I don't know if you ever

1208
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: put a number on it. Yeah, that truly matters. And

1209
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: for this year we haven't give him in a lot

1210
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: of pop. But I think he's he's like a step

1211
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: below Kyle Shanahan or whatever. But in terms of offensive

1212
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: game plans and everything. Yeah, I love Frank Craig. So

1213
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: does Carson Wentz remember him. So do Eagles fans. Um.

1214
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: That's gotta prove it. He's got to prove it a

1215
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: little more. I mean, you would think do it. That

1216
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: speaks to my point, you know, but what made Maddiel

1217
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: for the bearded boy just can't get all right? Give

1218
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: give Frank Riik, Aaron Rodgers, see what happens? Um, all right,

1219
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: let's move on, and that will now take us to

1220
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,479
Speaker 1: Mark Anthony Sessler not my middle, Yes, Edward is my middle.

1221
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: Edward Anthony was the I think the bassist in van Halen.

1222
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: How about that? I think also a historical figure in

1223
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: ancient times as well. Mark also the original Eddie Spaghetti.

1224
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: Mark Eddie Spaghetti Sessler. That's true. That was my nickname

1225
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: in a parallel universe. I have no idea what you're

1226
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: talking about. Dan. I'm gonna go, Well, there are a

1227
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: lot of dogs left at this point. There's not a

1228
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: lot to pick from, and I've already given one of

1229
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: my games to Shook. So I'm gonna go Jacksonville at Baltimore.

1230
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: You gave one of your games that Shook. We've already

1231
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: discussed this, you know, he he's got he is very

1232
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: busy on the NFL dot com desk. They're whipping Fessler

1233
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: making trades mid show. Well, it was a request from

1234
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: Shook and it was the least I could do. Uh,

1235
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: he will be getting New England at Miami, So I

1236
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: still have to pick a few here. I'm going to

1237
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: We're putting the clock on this one. Did you go

1238
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: through the never necessary league back channels to make that

1239
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: trade legitimate? It is legitimate as of right now because

1240
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: I chose to make it legitimate. Um. Listen, one little

1241
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: notable element here with the with the Hollywood Brown and

1242
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: Miles Boy clock in this, Ricky, sorry to cut you

1243
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: off there. I mean, can I possibly get three seconds

1244
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: into this segment? This is absolutely unbelievable. I have one

1245
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: minute to talk and you guys have interrupted me twelve

1246
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: times combined. I'm down, Relax, We're just we're setting up

1247
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: the mechanisms of the show. We before the program began,

1248
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: we set aside four games to set the speed clock

1249
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: on two minutes, real style, and then you're not gonna

1250
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: get just one minute, mark, here's two minutes. You want

1251
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: to talk for two minutes, talk for two minutes. This

1252
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: is your world, baby, I do not want to talk

1253
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: for two minutes. I will mention that Hollywood Brown and

1254
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: Miles Boykin days after that Monday Night game have been

1255
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: put on the COVID list. Now to your point with

1256
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: the last game, we don't know if this is they

1257
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: have Corona or they are close contacts. If they were close,

1258
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: they could play their expectation. That's the expectation, so you

1259
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: get them back. That's still a little bizarre to me. Um.

1260
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: You know this is the Ravens team right now. I

1261
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: think coming out of Monday Night, they've been launched out

1262
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: of a cannon and you're playing a Jacksonville defense that

1263
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: last week was terrorized by Derrick Henry. So the setup,

1264
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: um for a team that wants to come in and

1265
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: run the ball all day long feels inviting for Baltimore.

1266
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have a whole lot to say

1267
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: about this game other than if Baltimore ever slipped up here,

1268
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: it would be one of the bigger um stumbles that

1269
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: we've seen by a a f C North heavy like

1270
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: the Ravens and year. It's not happening. It's not happening.

1271
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna watch games. I'm gonna sit here. I'll

1272
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: have a It'll be Sunday earlier coke. I don't take

1273
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, oh, I love blowouts, but it's also

1274
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: gonna this is gonna be I don't care about Miles

1275
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: Blinken or Hollywood Brown or anything. Well, but what if

1276
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: they have the disease? I would feel a little. No,

1277
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: I don't care about that in terms of this game,

1278
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: in terms of it's competitive, I really hope those gentlemen

1279
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 1: are healthy and if they are ill, that it does

1280
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: not become a serious situation. I think Lamar is going

1281
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: to shred this pitiful Jacksonville defense, and I need Gardner

1282
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: Meanshew as the starter to get me a W so

1283
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: the Jets don't need to go winless to get Trevor Lawrence.

1284
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: But I don't ask Trevor. I don't ask Minshew to

1285
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: win this game. You're not gonna hear me burying Minshew

1286
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night's podcast. Well, I might because he can't

1287
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: get the win against the Ravens. I need one win

1288
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: against the Bears next week. Not asking Ford here. I

1289
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: think the Ravens defense is a problem. This is probably

1290
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: not the week it shows up. Wouldn't surprise me if

1291
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: Minshew puts up some points in like a forty two

1292
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: to twenty seven game or something. But I think they're

1293
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: a problem. They got a lot of issues right now.

1294
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: Up front. You can't blitz when you don't have your Interrex.

1295
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: But this ship, they have the nice matchup this week.

1296
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's move right along. Greg, you're up next.

1297
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna take the forty Niners and the Cowboys.

1298
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: Set the clock, Ricky, We've got two minutes. This is

1299
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: truly a dead game. Uh, it is our last chance

1300
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: to watch. Uh. Cowboys fans convinced themselves that they're not

1301
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: totally out of it, and they like they're coming off

1302
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: a blow out victory and they're putting thirty thousand people

1303
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: in the stands to watch this dog team. Hey, how

1304
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: about have some self respect? The Dolphins fans and the

1305
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: Browns fans are making more noise with their seven thousand

1306
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: fans outside than you're making with inside. Good jobs Dolphins

1307
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: fans too. I noticed last week. It's also the last

1308
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: chance for Mike, Kyle Shanahan and Salah to like win

1309
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: a game and us to say, wow, what a great

1310
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: coaching job they've done this year, because I don't know

1311
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: if they're gonna get another win, but I see one

1312
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Uh, maybe George Kittle's back, maybe not. Nick

1313
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: Molins is starting. I don't care. I'm locking up the

1314
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: forty Niners alright, Like haven't haven't been home in a month,

1315
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: the forty Niners. That could be a problem, not coming

1316
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: off a very good game. But I'm I'm having annoying.

1317
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,959
Speaker 1: How annoying is the Deebo Samuel season this year? Never

1318
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: could get his body right and then he pops a

1319
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: hamstring on the first possession. Last week He's done Kyle

1320
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: Jannah and said that you know you'll see him probably

1321
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: next year. So, uh, that's a big part of that

1322
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: offense lost, and with it get another reason for me

1323
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: not to care about the forty Niners at this point. Samuel,

1324
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: to me, is so fun to watch. He's not in

1325
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: the picture. Cowboys should roll here, and Andy Dalton he cowboys,

1326
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys should lock up. Yeah, I know I disagree with you.

1327
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: I think Andy Dalton has installed the floor with this

1328
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: offense and they're gonna take care of business. Well, I'd

1329
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: be surprised that Dallas rolls in this game, but I

1330
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: mean anything could happen. But Zeke Elliott doesn't seem very

1331
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: healthy right now. He's not been very good to begin with. Um,

1332
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: you know the Niners health, the nine US have tried

1333
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: on defense. I think they put a lot of effort

1334
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: into stuff. But Rahee Monster has also hurt. It's not

1335
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: just Deebo Samuel. I mean, maybe they made a deal

1336
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: with the football gods and said, put every one of

1337
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: our injuries into this season and keep us clean the

1338
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: next two. Maybe, you know in our locks competition. Um,

1339
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: if you can get a w here because Mark and

1340
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: I both locked up the Chiefs, if somehow the Saints win,

1341
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: which could obviously happen, and you get a Niners victory,

1342
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: you are coasted to the There's a lot on the

1343
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: line for Boys next game. I'm up again, and uh,

1344
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: I guess I'll take that Jets Rams Gamey's coasting, baby,

1345
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: not just you. It doesn't really matter. Um, I'm gonna

1346
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: be focusing more on that Chiefs Saints game. Don't care,

1347
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: but someone's got to take this Jets Rams game. I

1348
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: am interested to see, uh what the Rams do in

1349
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: terms of you know, them running that two tight end

1350
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: set so much, and it really got me thinking about

1351
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 1: how the Rams have evolved since they lost the Super Bowl.

1352
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,439
Speaker 1: They're way more able to be multiple. I think they're

1353
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: not as predictable. I think that Super Bowl loss helped

1354
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: them go that way. And you know, they lose their

1355
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: left tackle and somehow they're the most rugged running team

1356
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: in the league all of a sudden, and that matches

1357
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: up obviously well for this week for the Jets, but

1358
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: even for the playoffs. I think it helps them that

1359
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: you don't know what kind of UH formation and what

1360
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna see out of this Rams team. They're also

1361
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: the best team in the league. I think using tempo,

1362
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: that's something Jared Goff should get some credit for it.

1363
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they snapped that ball with about thirty seconds

1364
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: six seconds left on the clock. It's pretty amazing. And

1365
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: they caught the Patriots big time using tempo. And that

1366
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: Thursday night game, there was one mom this is not

1367
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: really Jets Rams specific, but I love watching that NFL

1368
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: miked up, which you know will pick five or six

1369
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: games to dig in on, and they did Patriots Rams.

1370
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: And there was a moment where Belichick came up to

1371
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh after that game and that what you know,

1372
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: it feels like a year ago, but it was Thursday

1373
01:05:58,040 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: night and he basically said, you had a great play

1374
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: and and you know it's it's it was two coaches

1375
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: congratulating each other, but McVeigh sort of said, appreciate it, man,

1376
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: And like I could see like genuine emotion in Sean

1377
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: McVeigh um, and I think it meant so much to him,

1378
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: and so it made me think a little bit differently

1379
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: about this Rams team. And the one other thing I'd

1380
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: say about Sean McVeigh is that he I thought made

1381
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: an excellent choice back in the day to hire Wade

1382
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: Phillips as a defensive coordinator and to move on was

1383
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: a bit controversial, but then he went and found Brandon Stalely,

1384
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: and I think that this is one coach that does

1385
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: as good a job as anyone at finding the rest

1386
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: of his staff, because Brandon Stalely has been a star

1387
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: for them and could be a head coach much sooner

1388
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: than we think. So you know, the Rams are very

1389
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: solid and consistent on that side of the ball. Uh,

1390
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: this is not going to be another ugly day for

1391
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: the Jets and their fans. Stay away, keep your eyes

1392
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: closed and if you want to, if you're looking for

1393
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: some hope, just looking ahead. As as a Jets fan,

1394
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: look at the Rams, look at what they did. Jeff

1395
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: Fisher was a laughing stock at the end of that tenure.

1396
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 1: We saw it on a hard knocks and an all

1397
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: or nothing and then Sean McVeigh comes in. Everything has changed.

1398
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: It takes one guy sometimes changed the culture you trust

1399
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: from Jets to find that guy. But sometimes even a

1400
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: blind sc that's the saying, right, I believe it is.

1401
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how are we identifying that squirrels are blind?

1402
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: Who's digging down to find out if that's the case. Um,

1403
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: when I big unfeeding a squirrel in my backyard, I

1404
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't be I wouldn't get too close to squirrels and

1405
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a good trend. You're got suddenly you're

1406
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: gonna have about you. I've read this story. You know

1407
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: the uh lead singer of that that god punk band

1408
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: who's living in Venice and has a whole house of

1409
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: squirrels living with him right now, Johnny Rotten is the

1410
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: is the name? Remember old Johnny right the sex pistols,

1411
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: sex Pistols? Yeah, the damn punk band. Well, I was blanket.

1412
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 1: I was the g D was at myself. Are you

1413
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: like a are you like a parent in whales in

1414
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: or something? It was the swearing was at was at myself.

1415
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't think of the name um. But you know,

1416
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: he starts feeding those squirrels. He's just living. They're all

1417
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: living in his house, and like you feed one, they're

1418
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: all gonna start coming. Okay, No, I got this guy.

1419
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: We call him Gus, and he trusts us now And

1420
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: it's not the right thing to do. But I think

1421
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 1: it's certainly UM driven in some part by the pandemic,

1422
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: this need for uh increased intimacy with anything that's living

1423
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: in outside the house. I think there's some type of

1424
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: psychological tie in. While I'm feeding this going, I feeding

1425
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: this squirrel feanuts Erica. That is all I'm feeding it. Okay,

1426
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: So we don't need Orson Wells in that spot, Okay,

1427
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean we we couldn't get the lock sound for

1428
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: my game, but it's Orson Wells is just hanging out

1429
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: in the back room. I have multiple questions for Dan

1430
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: on this topic, but I'll take ahead. No hit me.

1431
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: Hit me with one more question, then I'll move on.

1432
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: I mean, it just doesn't sound safe. You're you're is

1433
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: the squirrel eating the peanuts out of your hand. Really,

1434
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,480
Speaker 1: it feels that it's definitely pulled from sort of um

1435
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: like an emo nineties film starring like Robin Williams or something.

1436
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: But um, I I don't know, Dan. I wish you

1437
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: luck on this front. I'm really psychic prestige picture where

1438
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 1: like a simple minded man, uh spends his days in

1439
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: the backyard feeding well, we got that part right, you know.

1440
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's that's a situation, all right. I

1441
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: don't know where to go from here. We still mean

1442
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: shut in at this point. You don't let anyone near you,

1443
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 1: so it don't come after me. I'm just trying to,

1444
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: you know, find some love out there in the world

1445
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: and and spread my seeds beat seen squirrels attack and uh,

1446
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: it's good you have him on your side. But what

1447
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: is this. I don't let anyone near me. I mean,

1448
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: we're in a pandemic. I'm not allowed to go anywhere

1449
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: like that's that's not that's another nice cover story, bro.

1450
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: I don't know where to go. I don't know what

1451
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: what's happening at this point. All right, mark it, it

1452
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 1: finishes with you before we I think we have one

1453
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: more primetime game. Uh what do you got? Um? Well,

1454
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: I have one choice. It's Detroit at Tennessee. And you

1455
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: know I can't get enough of the Detroit Lions in

1456
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: mid December, and so I will say Detroit interesting that

1457
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: they announced that they would speak to Lewis riddick Um

1458
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 1: for their general manager open They added Rick Smith that

1459
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,480
Speaker 1: former Texans GM did that list. Thomas de Mitchroth was

1460
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: was put on that list this morning. So it's an

1461
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: interesting wide net. I mean, we've talked about the future

1462
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: of Monday night football. Pulling Lewis Riddeck out of the mix.

1463
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 1: Who else is going to speak with the Texans would

1464
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: be interesting? Um? As for this week, I mean Matthew

1465
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: Stafford is very banged up. Um, he's not practicing, But

1466
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: Darryl Bevil said number one, I don't really care if

1467
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't practice all week, we'd still be willing to

1468
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: play him. And Matthew Staffords has said I want to

1469
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: play in this game, So I think that's a TVD

1470
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: right now. I wouldn't be surprised if he does. And

1471
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: here's your job. Stop a offense in the Titans, where

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Speaker 1: I think the highest floor outside of the Chiefs in

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01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: the league, Like they just don't have bad games on offense.

1474
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: And what we saw from Derrick Henry and A. J.

1475
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: Brown and Tannehill a week ago, Um, I think they're

1476
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:15,839
Speaker 1: on a tear. They kind of remind me on offense

1477
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: of the Ravens a little bit, where, um, you're gonna

1478
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 1: have to cause mistakes to slow him down. I think

1479
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: Cleveland didn't get lucky, but they you know, they were

1480
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: fortunate to some degree that they stuff Derrick Henry on

1481
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 1: a fourth and one in the next next next drive

1482
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: caused a fumble and that's through Tennessee off their game script.

1483
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: As people like to say, Um, that's your that's your move.

1484
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: Can Detroit do that? Um? I don't foresee that, but

1485
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 1: they've been friskier under Bevel, They've been more interesting to

1486
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: watch on offense. I love this stat from NFL research.

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01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,839
Speaker 1: The Titans are the six team since nineteen seventy average

1488
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: thirty points per game. They're right at thirty right now,

1489
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: and a hundred and fifty plus yards per game. And

1490
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: four of those previous five teams featured an m v P,

1491
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: including last year's Ravens, and four of those five teams

1492
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 1: one fourteen games. I mean, that is unbelievable. It shows

1493
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: how bad he is. And also one other crazy stat,

1494
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 1: Derek Derrick Henry has a has a real path to

1495
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 1: two thousand yards rushing, and Ryan Tannehill is a good

1496
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: chance of setting the team's all time passing touchdown. I mean,

1497
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: the offense is just off the charts statistically. You don't

1498
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: need to teams do come on now, don't pull the

1499
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs here. Where do we come Greg? Try to

1500
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 1: because I know you're a little cynical about fantasy at

1501
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: this stage of your life, But where do you come down?

1502
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: I just don't play it, okay, So then you're a

1503
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: good quick person asking this, where do you come down? On?

1504
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs? Going out of his way last Sunday morning

1505
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: to put on Instagram. Uh, sorry, fantasy heads out there,

1506
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm not playing and and you absolutely was playing. He

1507
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 1: was active, He went in people's pockets potentially, and then

1508
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: afterwards he gave him like a digital middle finger, like

1509
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: uh an emoji with emoi. You don't want to see it.

1510
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:19,759
Speaker 1: But I ask everyone no, for for real, like if

1511
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 1: you can't do that, but I also ask you to

1512
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 1: put yourselves in a twenty four, twenty five year old

1513
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: shoes who's getting crap about fantasy all the time. He's

1514
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 1: had a very disappointing season and has gotten probably hundreds

1515
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: of d ms over the course of the season. Are you,

1516
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: as a twenty five year old who's at the top

1517
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: of his profession, are you gonna have um the self

1518
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: control not to fight back and do something stupid one

1519
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 1: time that I just think it has to be put

1520
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: in context with that, because because people are coming after them,

1521
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: is tough. The other wrinkle to that was that Gruden

1522
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 1: had to pull him aside and say, look, I have

1523
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: been around the great running backs and I'm gonna bring

1524
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: up names like Walter Payton and others and say they

1525
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: didn't they didn't only play when they were healthy, they

1526
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: played through pain. They played when they were hurt. And

1527
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: I think that impacted maybe even post Instagram post or

1528
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: tweet whatever it was. Um, Josh Jacob's sort of role

1529
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 1: in thinking in that game. Gruden came down on him hard. Yeah,

1530
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: but do it. But the behavior is unappealing. It doesn't

1531
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: justify it. But I just think that is the reality,

1532
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: and so I think it's more understandable, you know, if

1533
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 1: you put it in that context. He's putting his hand

1534
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: in people's pockets. You know. I'm now I've reached a

1535
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: stage in life where my fantasy season doesn't dictate whether

1536
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 1: I could like pay rent. But I've been in that

1537
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: place before, like where I had no money and no

1538
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: business being uh you know in certain leagues. Uh, and

1539
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: especially coming during the Fantasy playoffs, that was it. But

1540
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: you're right, Well, they'll make a league rule, honestly, if

1541
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: they haven't already, just because of how that affects you know,

1542
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 1: some of their part ors, the NFL as partners with

1543
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: this DFS company. So if you suddenly had players like

1544
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: giving misinformation, that's problematic too. Um. All right, let's wrap

1545
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: things up with Monday Night football Pittsburgh at Cincinnati. Really

1546
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: nice set up for Pittsburgh here, obviously because uh, they're

1547
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 1: coming up back to back losses. They're they're certainly kind

1548
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 1: of at a sink and a bit of a funk offensively,

1549
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: if if if you're not talking about the drops, which

1550
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 1: have been plentyful, you're talking about the general scheme which

1551
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: has been uh pretty static and unimaginative and a running

1552
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: game that doesn't get going. So there's a lot of

1553
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: things not working on that Steeler's offense. The good news

1554
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: is the Cincinnati Bengal steak and they're ready to go home.

1555
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 1: Uh So it feels like markould get right game for

1556
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: the Steelers, you would hope. So for them, well, they

1557
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: don't get right. I mean, I think the media news

1558
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: cycle will go absolutely ballistic. Um, they've got to handle

1559
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 1: this game. They've gotta handle it with ease. I want

1560
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: to see that run game, UM reach turn and get balanced.

1561
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't trust that it will. Their offensive line has

1562
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: not been, you know, in top shape. They've had corona issues,

1563
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 1: they've had injury issues. Zach Taylor did mention that Brandon

1564
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 1: Allen did not practice today on Thursday because of a

1565
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: knee issue that Ryan Finley took first team reps. Um

1566
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: like Brandon Allen better than Ryan Finley. I don't like

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01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 1: either of them much at all, So I don't know

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01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 1: why that should matter at all. I mean, Pittsburgh, I think,

1569
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: needs to look at this game as a shut the

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01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 1: entire football world up. Um, I don't care who it's

1571
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: coming against. Go in and drop a nuclear bomb on

1572
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: a Bengals team with zero direction right now. This game

1573
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: can't be seven six at halftime. I know Pittsburgh, even

1574
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: when things are going right on offense this year, they

1575
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: would go through little lulls where they would disappear for

1576
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: a quota or two. Don't put us in that situation

1577
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 1: as viewers. Give us something fun to watch, even if

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01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: it's a blowout. Yeah, the uh it does make me think,

1579
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: is Ben Roethlisberger a guy you want playing in cold weather? Uh?

1580
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 1: It's kind of funny to think about that in the playoffs.

1581
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 1: But his arm strength is not the same and and

1582
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 1: I do think that affects quarterbacks. It's that's why I

1583
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't be as worried about Brady. Arm strength is not

1584
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: his problem. Um, But Ben, I don't know. It's so

1585
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:10,799
Speaker 1: weird to think he might not be a cold weather quarterback.

1586
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: Our buddy Tyler Dragon broke the news that Geno Atkins

1587
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,640
Speaker 1: UH and the Bengals are gonna be same goodbye to

1588
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 1: each other in the off season, and Atkins is officially

1589
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: out for the rest of the season. So good job

1590
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: Tyler Dragon with the scoop. What a career Gino Atkins

1591
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: had there, but not quite the same? And how about

1592
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: a little shout out that Jesse Bates. The Bengals have

1593
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 1: one Pro Bowl player on their team. His name is

1594
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 1: Jesse Bates, a safety having a fantastic season. He should

1595
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl. Has been one of the best.

1596
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: I gotta wonder if a J. Green would um link

1597
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: up with Gino and get out of there as well.

1598
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure. Let me who wants a J.

1599
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: Green at this point? What was that guy done the

1600
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: last couple of years to show that he can play? Though? Well,

1601
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: I'm not he'll get a job. He'll get a job,

1602
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 1: but you're right, the market's not going to be super

1603
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 1: aggressive for a J. I don't think Geno will have

1604
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: a market. I would think, even if he's not quite

1605
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 1: the same guy either, A J. Green um all right?

1606
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 1: There you go. That is the full Oh Ricky, who

1607
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: are you locking up this week? We you know, we

1608
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: always have to hold you to a a standard um

1609
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 1: of giving us heads up on this and you know

1610
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: no mid morning locks on a Sunday from the West coast.

1611
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: When you get a chance to lock up the chiefs,

1612
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 1: you do it well, all three of you know this

1613
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: is payback. Um, you know this is this is just

1614
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:36,480
Speaker 1: h jessel Nick and Rosenthal vanity project, um, synchronicity, loyalty.

1615
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: Here she's she's teaming up and taking you guys down. Um.

1616
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: You know since we worked together elsewhere, use about where

1617
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 1: you're going with that. I was like, oh, you want

1618
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: to take them down? So yeah, you're helping you're you're

1619
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: helping me out? Are you sure? Have you seen that

1620
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: forty Niners team? The way they get coached up week

1621
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 1: after week by the Great Dan is wildly for in

1622
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 1: these cowboys give I'll tell you what if you want

1623
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 1: if this is this is unappealing, this three um, no,

1624
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: I would happily lock up the Browns if you would

1625
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: allow me to go ahead. Well, I don't want to

1626
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: hear a bunch of white noise about that's you're not

1627
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 1: there's no mirror like. I don't have to do that either,

1628
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 1: but if we want, it's more interest. I don't like

1629
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: it when anyone complains about anyone's luck. That's why you

1630
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: have to have rules there there within the guidelines. But

1631
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 1: I have a guy that wants to kill the game,

1632
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 1: wants to install the rules. It doesn't work. The whole

1633
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: point of wanting to kill the game is the game's

1634
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 1: got to have rules for you to play it. But

1635
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: j I've got some breaking news about the Browns game.

1636
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have the sound effect here, Erica. Oh,

1637
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: James Bradberry, the top cornerback for the Giants, has contracted

1638
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen and it's just the red carpet is being

1639
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 1: rolled out. He will not only miss this game, but

1640
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: based on the timing and that he did test positive,

1641
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 1: he might miss two weeks. Which wow, he's been great

1642
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: of them. Well, I have no problem whatsoever, Mark. I

1643
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,839
Speaker 1: debated all week between or all morning between the Browns

1644
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: and UH in my forty nine pick. I think that's fine. Well,

1645
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 1: what let's let's let's just think about one thing. If

1646
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: I ever locked them up two weeks in a row

1647
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 1: and they lost both of those games after it was

1648
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: one game behind Gregg. It would be a classic crash

1649
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: and burn scenario that, um, you could sing about for

1650
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 1: the entire off season A few We can't. We can't

1651
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 1: spend the whole season saying how frisky the Giants are

1652
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: and how we like them and uh and the Browns

1653
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 1: are a little overrated. To totally switch those narratives in

1654
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: one week, just all right, I'll do it. I'm I'm

1655
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: with you. I could see the Giants winning. It's not

1656
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'm switching. I'm switching, and i'll alert

1657
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: you know. It's possible that it's the locked on Twitter

1658
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 1: man is not following this at this point, so I'll

1659
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: let him know as well. I want, actually, I want

1660
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 1: you to go back to the Chiefs. I like that

1661
01:20:55,760 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 1: one better. Well, all right, there you go, so Ricky,

1662
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: it's locking up the Chiefs of me. Mark actually bailed

1663
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: on the Chiefs because of Erica. Think about that. It's

1664
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: pretty fun. She got in my head. I think the

1665
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: Browns would have won in real time if she had

1666
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 1: not done the last week. She she created a major

1667
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 1: ripple effect that I don't do not find rewarding. What

1668
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 1: Erica's mush powers. Do they actually extend to the Kansas

1669
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: City Chiefs? What a test this will be? Well, let's see,

1670
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: maybe everything changes now she's she's been mathematically eliminated. We've

1671
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 1: only got seven weeks left in the season. She's she's

1672
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 1: eight back. Maybe she goes on a hot streak now

1673
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: the pressure is off. She's the Berserker and Mark just

1674
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: switched themself into total misery. No, I think it's more

1675
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: she's the Berserker jumping on other people's locks and then

1676
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: that person loses their lock. That's Berserker. What happens if

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01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs take care of business? Berserker locks it up,

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01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 1: the Zeuster locks it up, and then somehow the Giants

1679
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 1: beat the Browns. What version of Mark Cesler are we

1680
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: going to have for the show? If all of that happens,

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01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: it's a good thing on Sunday night. At least it's

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01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 1: a Sunday night game. He'll only be miserable for that

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01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: last ten minutes, if it, if it counts or anything.

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01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: I do think the Cowboys are going to beat Oh no,

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01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 1: thank you, you're the Berserker now, so I'm in. Everything's

1686
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: turned upside down all right? Now? One little news stuff,

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01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: one little side note. I don't like to promote things

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01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 1: at all, but I'm doing an A M A on

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01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: the reddit board, the subreddit around the NFL board tomorrow

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01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: at ten am California Times. So nice. Um. I'm not

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01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: specifically telling you too that I don't expect you two

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01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: to care, but just for anyone that's listening, I'm already

1693
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: logged into the room and waiting for your arrival. All right,

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01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,440
Speaker 1: ask me anything. Make sure you check that out the subreddit.

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01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: I believe it's a fifteen thousand strong and Mark will

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01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 1: be there. Good stuff, all right, that's it, stan Anson

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01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: signing off four Quiet Storm, the Old Boss Ricky Hollywood

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01:22:55,439 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 1: high in the virtual glass until the Black Ship Show.