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Speaker 1: Welcome in Texas huddle during the bye week, so we

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Speaker 1: don't have a current player, but we got somebody that's

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Speaker 1: with myself DP, I am in D. She's DP and

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Speaker 1: a guy that I've really wanted to do multiple shows

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Speaker 1: with because I've always had a respect for his approach

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Speaker 1: to the game and obviously he played at a high

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Speaker 1: level and he breaks it down like no other. He

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Speaker 1: John Man, It's good to be here.

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Speaker 2: Mark texted me the other day and said, Hey, DP

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Speaker 2: and D wants you to come on as a guest.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, absolutely, I was honored, so thank you for

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Speaker 4: I was like, if we have John Harris on, I

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Speaker 4: really can just sit back and chill because he's been

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Speaker 4: Indy and Johnny, Who's gonna run itself to be the

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Speaker 4: easiest show I've done all year? Not that our shows

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Speaker 4: have been hard, but I enjoy the perspective that Indie brings.

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Speaker 4: I love the perspective that John Harris brings. And you're right,

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Speaker 4: like we've never the three of us have never been

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up with that? That's never well, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: It could be fashioned because if you look my man

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Speaker 2: over here, he's sporting a kangle and that is nice,

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Speaker 2: which I admitted to back when I was a senior

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Speaker 2: high school nineteen ninety, I wore in my most likely

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Speaker 2: succeed photo, I wore suspenders in my green kangle and

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Speaker 2: it was nice because that was nineteen ninety. Though I

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Speaker 2: can't support it like dy though you can. You think

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Speaker 2: I should try it if I can find it. I'm

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Speaker 2: aware it. If I can find it, which I've moved

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Speaker 2: probably like thirty times since I'm aware, and.

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Speaker 1: If I have only purchased, I'll wear a blue one,

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Speaker 1: you wear a red one, wears a white one, yesh,

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Speaker 1: and we'll have the whole time.

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Speaker 3: That's what I have to do, absolutely.

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Speaker 5: That kangle. But I have a beret. Will that work?

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Speaker 2: It's got to be a cagle. I mean, it's got

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Speaker 2: to you gotta. Yeah, we might make you turn yours backwards,

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Speaker 2: so we're forward, you turn yours backwards. That's kind of

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Speaker 4: Well, Andy's on Extra points this week with Mark vandermir

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Speaker 4: So he's all dressed up and you look great, Indy,

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Speaker 4: first of all, And now I wish you would dress

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Speaker 3: Yes, dressed up for radio what I do every day?

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Speaker 6: I hate dressing up.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's because I'm bigger and

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Speaker 1: getting older and fatter, but just it's uncomfortable. If I

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Speaker 1: that's all I would do.

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Speaker 2: You know, the first few years I started traveling with

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Speaker 2: Like okay, I'm looking. And now I've gotten to a

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Speaker 2: I do not want to wear a tie. I gotta

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Speaker 2: do a Bear Brian Award function tonight after after I

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Speaker 2: have replay, and so I gotta get over and I

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Speaker 2: gotta I gotta go get a tie. I gotta put

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Speaker 3: That's all I need to do. You don't need to

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Speaker 6: I'm good.

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Speaker 5: I think when you're doing radio. You just want to

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Speaker 4: I remember coming back from the London trip when we

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Speaker 4: played the Jaguars a few years ago, the first thing

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Speaker 5: I feel you guy, I like to dress up, but

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Speaker 2: So but it was a nice that we gotta stretch

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Speaker 1: Last thing on this because you just say stretched out

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Speaker 1: and it reminded me. These new four way stretch jackets.

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Speaker 1: Women leisure, but for men, I think they've had it

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Speaker 2: that stretches just a little bit, I am all about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm all about it, absolutely.

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Speaker 5: All right, stretching pants for the wind.

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Speaker 4: How do you go from stretchy pants to six and

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Speaker 4: six into the bye week? Because, you know what, we're

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Speaker 4: relaxing right now. I feel like we're in a night.

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Speaker 4: We're in a nice spot in the season. Indy, like

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Speaker 4: three and three at the at the bye Is this

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Speaker 4: what you thought the team was going to be at?

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Speaker 6: I was telling the truth. No, you know, I felt like.

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Speaker 5: They were going to schedule.

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Speaker 1: Like ahead of the season, looking at the schedule, my

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Speaker 1: they're going to compete every game. But if you told

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Speaker 1: the point and I can't wait to get y'all's take.

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Speaker 1: We're going into every game I'm expecting them to win.

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Speaker 5: Had an expect right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean even in nineteen when they were really good,

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Speaker 2: But it was just disjoined in twenty nineteen. There were

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Speaker 2: In particular. You know, Bill O'Brien was doing too much

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Speaker 2: at that time, God loving, but he was handled so

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Speaker 2: many different things that by Friday, when the game plan

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Speaker 2: now I just I feel like this team is just

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Speaker 2: Down and we're like, man, Jared Patterson hasn't played center

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Speaker 2: understand early why they had some But even the last

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Speaker 3: It just hasn't been there. But in this offense, they're

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Speaker 3: they're learning a new offense.

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Speaker 2: still trying to find themselves with that. But I think

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Speaker 2: defensively I thought they'd be I thought they'd be good,

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Speaker 2: they can move, they're quick, but they're still not really big.

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Speaker 2: really thought they would run the ball better. They've stopped

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Speaker 2: didn't really know what CJ. You know, we really didn't

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Speaker 2: know what CJ. Like, I mean, even I I loved

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Speaker 2: people week eighteen after they win, like, dude, celebrate the

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Speaker 2: win because you're getting Brice or you're getting CJ.

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Speaker 6: In neither way.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good thing for this organization. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna be fine. No, no, no, we're rolling on Bryce. We're

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Speaker 2: alling on Bryce. Well not what are people saying? And

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Speaker 2: I think he's been even better than we thought. But

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Speaker 2: I think the one thing that stood out to me

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Speaker 2: that's what he was doing. You're seeing those things from

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Speaker 2: a young quarterback that I don't know that anybody thought

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Speaker 4: You got that's a lot to unpack, But I want

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Speaker 4: to go back to your point about the run game.

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Speaker 4: him get more carries than Pierce moving forward, depending on

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Speaker 4: the game plan. But someone had tweeted out that a

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Speaker 4: majority of the runs for Singletary were on the outside,

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Speaker 4: a majority of the runs for Pierce were on the inside,

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Speaker 4: and I thought that was curious. I did not watch

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Speaker 4: it like that, Like you've obviously watched the film, But

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Speaker 4: what would be the strategy you think in putting one

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Speaker 3: Well, don't you were the head. I don't totally buy that.

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Speaker 2: Quick I don't totally buy that because you can watch

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Speaker 3: And one of the things Damien.

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Speaker 2: Would like to do at times is get that edge.

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Speaker 2: He wants to get to the outside. I think you

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Speaker 2: know that what was it? Twelve was like twelve carries

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Speaker 2: for each or twelve for Devin and thirteen for Damian.

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Speaker 2: You know, one of the things I think there's a

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Speaker 2: know I had this challenge a long long time ago.

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Speaker 2: Was trying to figure out, this is my offense, this

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Speaker 2: is what I do. Let's tick the run end, this

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Speaker 2: is my run game, this is what I like to do,

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Speaker 2: this is my talent, this is what they do. And

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Speaker 2: how do I marry those two together? And so, okay,

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Speaker 2: I want to be more of an option running team.

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Speaker 2: So does that fit with the guys that I have?

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind seeing one of them, you know, not

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Speaker 3: When that's the case.

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Speaker 2: And you know, if they leave them, take a linebacker

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Speaker 3: You know, see what you're gonna do. So I think

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Speaker 2: Into that they haven't yet, and I think that may

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Speaker 1: When you look at Pierce, he's a guy that's so

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Speaker 1: physical he could play a full back type role, more

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think one of the things to India

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Speaker 2: I gotta give kudos to Mike Boone. He's had two

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Speaker 2: Boone picked him up, gave CJ a great pocket because

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Speaker 2: CJ had time to throw. Mike's gave him a lot

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Speaker 3: But I think they've got the right mix. It's just

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Speaker 2: Personnel now five and the right mix in play calling

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe so.

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Speaker 2: And again you bring up Tank, and I think Tank's

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Speaker 5: That's how he would be used.

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Speaker 2: Not necessarily, but when you think about him back in college,

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Speaker 3: No Deebo's a wide receiver, Like, no, look at that, dude.

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Speaker 3: Now he's at running back. Oh, like you're playing football.

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Speaker 3: I mean they tossed to him.

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Speaker 1: One of those guys when you say, hey, what position

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Speaker 3: Oh I got ever him out of the backfield. That's

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Speaker 2: That's trouble and it can be trouble against the running

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Speaker 2: They did it with Hutchinson. I think that might be

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Speaker 2: It's Robert running the same route. It's just a little

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Speaker 2: help this offense, and it'll eventually help the running game too.

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Speaker 2: But I just like to see them on first and

436
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Speaker 2: second down. Be a little bit more in running games,

437
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Speaker 2: so we can get to third and three, third and four,

438
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Speaker 2: not leaving CJ in third nine, third and ten. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot of that in the Falcons game, a little

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Speaker 2: bit in the Saints game. But yet those third down

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Speaker 2: and manageable, not that that's what you're working for. I

442
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Speaker 2: like to see him attack. Let's make sure first and

443
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Speaker 2: second down they're successful, so they're third manageable situations for.

444
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Speaker 3: CJ and leaving the whole playbook.

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Speaker 6: Oh but at that point, you know, it's cool about

446
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Speaker 6: this offense.

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Speaker 1: You're getting to the point where after every game we're

448
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Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, he didn't get enough matches, he didn't

449
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Speaker 1: get into targets because you have so many talented guys,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Schultz, whether it's a Singletary, whether it's Peers,

451
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Speaker 1: whether it's Robert Woods, Nico, like Tank Dell, the list

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Speaker 1: goes on and on where I don't feel like that

453
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Speaker 1: was the case this time last year, And like John said,

454
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Speaker 1: it brings up matchup problems and it reminds me when

455
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Speaker 1: I was playing. I was playing a linebacker position against

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Speaker 1: the greatest shaw on turf for Kurt Warner, Tory Holt.

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Speaker 6: And I had the three receivers.

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Speaker 1: So for those listening, when you count receivers, you count

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Speaker 1: from the outside end and typically the third receiver is

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Speaker 1: going to be a running back or a tight end,

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Speaker 1: which they were comfortable with me guarding or matching. And

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Speaker 1: because they were so creative, I somehow got on Isaac

463
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Speaker 1: Bruce and I remember lighting up and I was something

464
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Speaker 1: isn't right.

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Speaker 6: And this was what was cool about our defense.

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Speaker 1: Like I looked back and Brian Dawkins, Hall of Fame Safety,

467
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Speaker 1: he knew what I was thinking, and he said, don't worry,

468
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Speaker 1: I got I got you. And even without you know

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Speaker 1: doing what Jim Johnson, the best defensive coordinator in the

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Speaker 1: history of defensive coordinators, made sole rest in peace.

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Speaker 6: We knew what to do.

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Speaker 1: But because of that matchup and because Brian saw my

473
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Speaker 1: eyes when I turned around, I knew that I was

474
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Speaker 1: only gonna have to carry them for like five yards

475
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Speaker 1: and now I was gonna drop off. And I bring

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Speaker 1: that up because I could see a scenario where the

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Speaker 1: Texans offense creates those type of problem.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I mean you mentioned Dalton Schultz as you're starting to

481
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Speaker 2: Nds's what I thought about, because in the first three games,

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Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz had I think a total of seven catches

483
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Speaker 2: for forty seven yards. The last three games it's fourteen

484
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Speaker 2: catches for like one hundred and ninety five yards and

485
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Speaker 2: three touchdowns something like that.

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Speaker 3: It's just a drastic difference.

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Speaker 2: And in those first few games, you know, Nico had

488
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Speaker 2: the big game against the Colts, and he had another

489
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Speaker 2: one against the Steelers, and then in between their tank

490
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Speaker 2: had the big game Robert Woods.

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Speaker 3: The first game was catching third downs.

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Speaker 2: I love that you can have a different, different guy

493
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Speaker 2: or a different couple of guys featured every week, and

494
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Speaker 2: it's almost like having the answers to the test. You

495
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Speaker 2: don't know what they are, but you're like, Okay, I

496
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 2: see this, I know what I want to do. Okay,

497
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Speaker 2: they're gonna there, we come out on this personnel. They're

498
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Speaker 2: gonna continue to put Indy Kalou on Dalton Schultz. That's

499
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Speaker 2: a matchup we're gonna go to. We're gonna force them

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Speaker 2: to change that matchup and leave India as a rusher

501
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Speaker 2: and then make them bring a safety out. And once

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Speaker 2: they bring a safety out, Okay, that's taking a guy

503
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Speaker 2: out of the box, take him out of the count.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna go and run the ball at that point.

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Speaker 3: And so you have answers that way.

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Speaker 2: And there's sometimes I watch the game at the at

507
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Speaker 2: the start, after the first quarter, I kind of say

508
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Speaker 2: to myself, Okay, this is a Tank game, or you know,

509
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Speaker 2: this is a Nico game. Uh, this is gonna be

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Speaker 2: a Dalton game. In the last few really kind of

511
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Speaker 2: been been Dalton games. I mean, he's been getting some

512
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Speaker 2: good matchups and they're widening the field to let him

513
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Speaker 2: kind of, you know, use his use his moves, use

514
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Speaker 2: his quickness. He's been getting open and available and then

515
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Speaker 2: taking advantage of some of the defensive mistakes like the Saints.

516
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what Tyrone was looking at.

517
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Speaker 2: I love Tyrone. He's the best I've ever seen in

518
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Speaker 2: that position. I'm always looking at. I mean, that's a

519
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 2: standard goal line play. Tight end goes to the back

520
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Speaker 2: of the end zone. The wing goes to the to

521
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Speaker 2: the goal line like it's the easiest thing in the

522
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Speaker 2: world to cover, and Tyron's just sitting there watching the backfield,

523
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, what's he doing? So they must be

524
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Speaker 2: doing something right, you know, with a playfake like that

525
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Speaker 2: to be able to get Dalton as open as he was.

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Speaker 2: So I do I look at it like that and think, Okay,

527
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Speaker 2: what kind of game is this gonna be? What are

528
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Speaker 2: they gonna take away? What are they trying to take away?

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Speaker 2: And looking at all right, they're not letting Tank get deep. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we got to work Downdernath stuff. This is a Robert

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Speaker 2: Nico kind of game. And hopefully at some point when

532
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Speaker 2: this offense really gets good, those lines start getting blurred,

533
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Speaker 2: like you're not gonna be able to figure it out, like, Okay,

534
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Speaker 2: they might be trying to take away Nico, but maybe

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Speaker 2: maybe not.

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Speaker 3: Maybe this is gonna be a tank game.

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Speaker 2: But you know, we'll see if they can get to

538
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Speaker 2: a point where they're that good, and I hope we can.

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Speaker 3: Hope we get there. You just we're not gonna know.

540
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Speaker 2: And that's gonna be great because the defense is gonna

541
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Speaker 2: be sitting there all game going I don't know. And

542
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Speaker 2: that's where you really, that's where you want it to be.

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Speaker 2: If you start you start questioning, Wait a second, they're

544
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Speaker 2: hitting us with this, well, they're hit us with this

545
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Speaker 2: personnel group. Oh we know it's this, but then they're

546
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Speaker 2: giving him something else. I mean, to me, that's the game.

547
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Speaker 2: It's not it's not being you know, trickier, slyer, deceptive.

548
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Speaker 2: It's just you have counters, you have answers. And I

549
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Speaker 2: love I love getting there as a coach. I love

550
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Speaker 2: getting to a point where, oh, they think we're doing this,

551
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Speaker 2: and then having one or two counters off something we

552
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Speaker 2: did really well, so that my offense then you know,

553
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Speaker 2: went from there that that was it.

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Speaker 3: And I think Bobby will get there with this offense.

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Speaker 3: It will be fun.

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Speaker 4: Well like Noah Brown, I mean, he's a guy that

557
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Speaker 4: was on camp that was just phenomenal, played week one,

558
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Speaker 4: was on IR they bring him back and you know.

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Speaker 5: He had a pretty quiet game.

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Speaker 4: Mine it's the big thirty four yard catch that he

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Speaker 4: had right after the interception.

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Speaker 3: So just that, yeah, just that, I mean that, but huge.

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Speaker 4: Huge changes the whole tide of the game of the drive, everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And I mean you no bea this former

565
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Speaker 2: teammate Marshall Lattimore, which is kind of nice. And you know,

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Speaker 2: being a guy man coverage when you're just running across

567
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Speaker 2: the field, now you just got to catch it. And

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Speaker 2: CJ makes it easy for those guys. You know, we

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Speaker 2: talked about this in the broadcast. A lot a lot

570
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Speaker 2: of crossers, a lot of deep overs, those kind of things.

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Speaker 2: Those routes can be really difficult in some cases for

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Speaker 2: receivers because they're hauling ass to get across the field.

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Speaker 2: Like I mean, they're going because they they know if

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Speaker 2: it's man coverage, Like if it's man, you take off.

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Speaker 2: If it's own, you might sell up at some point.

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Speaker 2: But it's man coverage, you just got it. So you're

577
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Speaker 2: running full speed all the way across the field and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, CJ's got to put that ball

579
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Speaker 2: on you, so you don't have to adjust.

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Speaker 3: You can just run right through it.

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Speaker 2: That's to me, what makes CJ so great is the

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Speaker 2: fact that when he throws the ball, guys then run

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Speaker 2: through the ball. As opposed they have to stop and

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Speaker 2: react or slide or go. It's right on them. They

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Speaker 2: don't have to slow down, so they don't have to

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Speaker 2: worry about that. It just just run. Cgill put it

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Speaker 2: in the spot. You keep running it, he'll hitch at

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Speaker 2: that spot.

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Speaker 1: Texans huddle. No players today because they have the bye week,

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Speaker 1: or you're going to take a quick time out on

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Speaker 1: the other side. Let's talk about the other side, the

592
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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, and we take what we've

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Speaker 1: taken away after these six games. Quick time out, Texans huddle,

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Speaker 1: we'll be right back. Welcome in, Welcome back Texan's huddle

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Speaker 1: during the bye week. And don't forget after this we

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Speaker 1: have Texans all access, so no reason to ever touch

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Speaker 1: that doll. John Harris sitting in with us. I am indeed,

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Speaker 1: she is DP. You are you, and you're always welcome

599
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Speaker 1: to check out our podcast. But we talked a lot

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Speaker 1: of offense. But let's talk about those guys on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side. John, I want to get your take on this.

602
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Speaker 1: I want to get your your transparent take on this.

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Speaker 1: When I look at Will Anderson, when I watch him,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, he's arrived. I feel like now every player

605
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Speaker 1: can get better. JJ Watki could have gotten better up

606
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Speaker 1: until his last game. Even though he's going to be

607
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Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer. But when people look

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Speaker 1: at the stat line that says sacks, they seem to

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Speaker 1: be a little disappointed. I just want to get your

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Speaker 1: take on his overall play and what he has to

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Speaker 1: do to up the sack numbers.

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Speaker 3: Well, it was pretty clear week two. Starting in week two,

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Speaker 3: the Colts were very where Will Anderson.

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Speaker 2: I mean, wherever Will went, there was a there was

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Speaker 2: a tight end, or there was a back that was

616
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Speaker 2: chipping to help on will Anderson junior. And you know,

617
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: got the point where they couldn't do it every down

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Speaker 2: because you know John was you know, getting some wins

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Speaker 2: as well, but they were very, very aware of will Anderson.

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Speaker 2: That's when I realized, Okay, he's gonna get that sort

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Speaker 2: of treatment this year. He's gonna see he's gonna see.

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Speaker 3: A lot of that.

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Speaker 2: So I knew he probably wasn't gonna get a ton

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Speaker 2: of sacks. And you know, when games are closer, you

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Speaker 2: you know you're gonna see a little bit more run game.

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Speaker 2: And obviously the Colts it was it was quick passing game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Mince, you got that ball out. He got

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Speaker 2: the ball and he threw it and I remember a

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Speaker 2: quote from JJ A long time ago. We played the

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Speaker 2: Titans of twenty eighteen. They had Blaine Gabbertt playing quarterback.

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Speaker 2: The two tackles were out there at Guardo was out.

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Speaker 2: They had nothing and JJ didn't have a sack in

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Speaker 2: that game. And I remember afterwards they asked him. He

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Speaker 2: was like, what do you want me to do? They

635
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Speaker 2: were throwing the ball within one second Gabrett caught it

636
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Speaker 2: through it like what do you want me to do?

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Speaker 2: And and you know Will's not gonna say that, but

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Speaker 2: there have been times whether the quick passing game has

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00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,239
Speaker 2: been there. I think the Falcons game was the one

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Speaker 2: where I was like, man, okay, where is it where

641
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: we needed it a little bit more? But then you

642
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: go back and watch and you're like, yeah, they're devoting

643
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Speaker 2: a few more guys over there to Will. He's also

644
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Speaker 2: going against Kayla McGarry, who's a pretty.

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Speaker 3: He's kind of a mountain man.

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Speaker 2: And so I know that Will will probably tell you know,

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Speaker 2: there's probably a few things that I that he need

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Speaker 2: to do. I think the great pass rushers in this

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Speaker 2: league Indian you know, you know the game.

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Speaker 3: And I've talked to pass rushers, I say, is it

651
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: more art or.

652
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 2: Science and they kind of think about it and they're like, yeah,

653
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: that's interesting. And so I think Will's kind of trying

654
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 2: to figure out how to bridge the gap. And I

655
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 2: think one of the things to do that, I think

656
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: one of the arts, like you watch, you know, Bosa

657
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: who is I was watching, Oh, Daniel Hunter.

658
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 3: I was watching Daniel Hunter the other day.

659
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: This dude threw three different pass rush moves in the

660
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: matter of like two seconds and it eventually got him free.

661
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 2: And so I think, you know, for pass rushers, it's,

662
00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: you know, here's your pet move.

663
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: This is what you like to do.

664
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: And Will definitely likes to get that high side, you know,

665
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: you know, dip and rip from the outside. I think that,

666
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: you know, he probably could get, you know, try that

667
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: little ghost move and try and dip that shoulder a

668
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: little bit more, and that could be good. But he's

669
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 2: got to figure out what his counter needs to be

670
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: to that. And I think once he figures that out,

671
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: he's gonna be a monster. But his redirect, how he moves,

672
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: what he adds to the run game, run defense. But

673
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: when he got that hit on Kamara, it was like

674
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: in the movie Monsters, Inc. You remember that movie monsters

675
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: inc in the in the the power was the kids screams,

676
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: remember that, And so it felt like the way I

677
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: don't know if Kamara, I don't know if he screamed,

678
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: but it was like that hit charged him up. I

679
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 2: watched him the next two plays like he was literally

680
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: hopping in the huddle, like hopping like waiting for the

681
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: next play. And then the next two plays he gets

682
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: a pressure on car and then he disrupted the screen

683
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 2: and I'm like, WHOA, So Sacks will come.

684
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: I think Sacks will definitely come.

685
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 2: And as they continue to work together, I think one

686
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: of the things they'll continue to find out.

687
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: And I thought this at Alabama.

688
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 2: I think Will's one of the best loop like looping

689
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: inside from outside position. His ability to loop and go

690
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: from where he is behind the tackle into the backfield

691
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: is as quick as anybody I've seen it. So I

692
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: think that would be something that comes in due time

693
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: as well. That's how he got a pressure on the

694
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: mar that forced the interception in the Ravens game. But

695
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: I think for him as just an individual pass rusher,

696
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 2: he's one on one with a guy just kind of

697
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: packaging some moves together.

698
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: He wants to go that rip. He wants to go power.

699
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: What's the counter?

700
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: I think if he can kind of learn to throw

701
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: this that and really do that together, I think John,

702
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: if you watch Gernard, you can tell Grenard it's got

703
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: a little bit more of the art down of rushing

704
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: and he's got a little bit more of that. And

705
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: I always felt like John's a gifted pass rusher when

706
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: he came into the league. I think Will's house of

707
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: fire and he's learning still how to be a one

708
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: on one pass rusher.

709
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna get there.

710
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: But if he could package and move together, you know,

711
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: whether he gets that rip and he learns the free

712
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: andie ice pick, that's move. If he could learn something

713
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: like that, my god, I mean, he'd be lethal. But

714
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: you know it takes some time to learn that and

715
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: then how to apply it in a game and know

716
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: when to apply it.

717
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: And you know this.

718
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: You know, if you're out there and you're thinking pass

719
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: rush movies, you're like, I gonna take a risk, I

720
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: musa spin inside.

721
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: Well, you better.

722
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: Somehow keep contained because you you let you know, you

723
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: let dono mu nab outside of you, Like man, it's

724
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 2: your backside, Like what do you do? I spun inside. Okay,

725
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: but you have contained on this play. So there's some

726
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: things that you kind of learn along the way, and

727
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: I think Will is definitely learning those.

728
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 4: I think, Okay, aside from the number of sacks, just

729
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: seeing the quarterback pressures, the hits, the hurries, if you

730
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: put all those together, like in Sunday's game he had

731
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 4: so through six games. I saw next Gen Stats had

732
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: said that Will has twenty five pressures, tied for second

733
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 4: most among rookies through six games. So twenty five pressures,

734
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 4: seven quarterback hits, sixteen qbhuries. I have a solution. I

735
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 4: want to get your thoughts on this, Like, if there's

736
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 4: a quarterback passer rating, why can't there be like a

737
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 4: pass rusher rating where you take sacks, but then you

738
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 4: also figure in like pressures, hurries, hits so as to

739
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 4: gauge how effective a pass rusher could be. Like to me,

740
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: I don't understand why someone hasn't come up with this one, Okay, John,

741
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 4: he's an engineer like I am, Like, we like formulas

742
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 4: and we want to do something with these stats.

743
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: No, No, I'll put it very simply. The offensive guys need

744
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. They need to they need

745
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: to be able to quantify it. Defensive players don't need that.

746
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: Defensive players already know. Defensive players already know he's a dude.

747
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: That's all I need to know. You don't need a

748
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: bunch of numbers. The offensive pretty boys need that. Defensive

749
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: players don't.

750
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 4: People look at that lack of sacks and that's all

751
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 4: they see because the stat sheet doesn't show.

752
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 5: But that's necessarily andy. What would you have thought if

753
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 5: I could measure your effective.

754
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: That's a great points you bring up because the casual

755
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: fan they look at just the sack. That's a great point.

756
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: But John's right most and I think it's a little

757
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: different now because everyone's trying to brand themselves and they

758
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: know people are looking at stats. But you know you've

759
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: had a good game as a defensive player. You can

760
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: have a good game as a defensive lineman and literally

761
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: have one tackle on the stat line because you did

762
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: a great job protecting your gap. You uh cause disruption,

763
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: you change the line of scrimmage. But I actually think

764
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: you're onto something in this world where it's all about

765
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: analytics and quantifying, quantifying everything. You can still have a

766
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: good game and you can still show it with the

767
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: right formula even if you don't get a sack. Because

768
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: I will say this about Will Anderson, and I'm frustrated

769
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: for him. As far as the sacks. I'm frustrated because

770
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: I know the perception out there, but every game I watch,

771
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's that guy, he's that guy. And then

772
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: when I look and like, oh, you know what, he

773
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: only has one sack. Oh, well, you know I know

774
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: what I'm watching and he's that guy. So you know

775
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 1: you should do it.

776
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 6: You used to do it. You have to help.

777
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: You're the engineer, you're engineered the group.

778
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 5: But somebody has to tell me, like what how do we.

779
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 3: Weigh each thing?

780
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 5: What's something? You're super important?

781
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: But then I just got a tongue of cheek.

782
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: In some sense, I do think you have to quantify

783
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: things for people, like what do people a lot of times,

784
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: casual fans, what do they do on Sunday?

785
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: Well, PFF said this? Well why because watching the whole game.

786
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: You're not watching the whole game, and PFF, you quantifies

787
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: things for people. It's easier to say, well, that guy

788
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: had three touchdowns, that guy threw the ball.

789
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: Well, well, how do you know, Well, because I watched

790
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: the damn game. I saw him throw.

791
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: The ball well, because I know there were some people

792
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: that we're talking about too, he was under fifty percent.

793
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: Did you watch the game? Did you watch what he's doing?

794
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: So I do think you know this this world where

795
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: we want things quantified.

796
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: Like we just want a number at the end of it,

797
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 4: like I'm sure scouting like they here's here's.

798
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: What you do if you don't know, if you're kind

799
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: of like well, I don't know, you listen to nd

800
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: you listen to people that played the game before saying

801
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: Will Anderson's the truth.

802
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 3: That's what you do.

803
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: Now, that's what you have to do, or learn how

804
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: to watch it yourself and go what was that a

805
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: good play?

806
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: Was that a bad play?

807
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: Ask people that know what's going on and learn the

808
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: game yourself, or you listen and rely on on on

809
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: somebody like Indy understands those positions. Steve McKinney, I used

810
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: to love having him on the air because he could

811
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: tell you no, no, no, no, no no, that wasn't the

812
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: guard's fault. The center was supposed to do this, like

813
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: they can put it in those sort of terms and

814
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: let you know, no, no, that wasn't that wasn't his fault.

815
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: I mean, how often you see a quarterback sacked by

816
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: a guy and the offensive line runs a split protection.

817
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: So three go one way, two go the other, and

818
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: here comes the linebacker through and sacks a quarterback and every.

819
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 3: Goes offensive line.

820
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: Week two, I can promise you Week two, Texans ran

821
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: a split cover or a split protection like that linebacker

822
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: came through and he ends up sacking CJ.

823
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: One of the sixth They.

824
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: Ended up having everybody and their brother was screaming about

825
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: the offensive line and I want to watch. It was like, no,

826
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: that's the back's responsibility. The running back was supposed to

827
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: get that. Nope, six sacks had to be the offensive line.

828
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 3: No, that's on the running back.

829
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: The running back went running over to the three man side, like, no,

830
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: he's going to help out on the back on the backer,

831
00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: and he didn't.

832
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: And it's those things that you don't see.

833
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm glad jasking that Andy about Will

834
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: because I've I've heard some of that same noise. I'm like,

835
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: y'all crazy, are y'all watching the impact this man has

836
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 2: on every single down? And that's the other thing too,

837
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: when a guy has that impact, like I said, in

838
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: Week two gets the cults. You're taking a guy out

839
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: of a route as a receiver, taking a tight end

840
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: or a back out of the route.

841
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 3: Hey, we're so concerned about that guy that you can't.

842
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: Go out for a pass. But it's will going to

843
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: get any credit for that. No, unless we see it

844
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: and we talk about it.

845
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: No. With all that being said, because I'm always thinking

846
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: a business minded, you should put something together.

847
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 6: I didn't realize that.

848
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely stamp it. It's your status.

849
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would have assumed PFF or one of those.

850
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 5: They probably grated.

851
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 4: But I think like a like a stat that everyone

852
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 4: can use, not just a PFF style like QBR rating

853
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 4: like that's been changed over the years.

854
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: You get a certain amount of points for yeah, well

855
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: pressure that quarterback hit for a block pass?

856
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I need you should do.

857
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: You can put something together.

858
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 4: You would know what how each should weigh in on

859
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 4: a on the effectiveness of a past.

860
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 6: Three of us should do it.

861
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 3: The quarterback rating formula is a nightmare.

862
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: Keep it super secret and then we just have this

863
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 4: magical number out of forty two and we.

864
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: Could test it out on the college kids for John's

865
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: top one. And then we say, hey, this d Lineman

866
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: has a d line writing of that's right, let's not

867
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 1: talk about this anymore.

868
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 5: Black execution or time for any of them.

869
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

870
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 4: I do want to give Johnny and myself some props

871
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 4: in the I know you just did extra points. Johnny

872
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 4: and I were on extra points last week and we

873
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 4: were at Drew asked us most underrated defensive player or

874
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 4: one that we're not talking enough about. I forget how

875
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 4: we were, I said, cash man, guess who? Johnny said,

876
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: Who did I say? I forgot Steven Nelson?

877
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 6: Yeah.

878
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't think that's an issue anymore. After

879
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 5: last Sunday's game, No, I talked.

880
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: To Stephen in the in the locker room and it

881
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: was like, you know the and INDI you know this

882
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: the sack that gets away?

883
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: You know, I remember Derek Thomas.

884
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: When Derek Thomas had seven sacks against the Seahawks in

885
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety, they asked him after the game.

886
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: He just he was downtrodden. And it's like, well, I mean,

887
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 3: you said an NFL record with sacks.

888
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, but the one I didn't make was

889
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: the one I threw the game winning touchdown on.

890
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: And it's like for Steven he gets to pick at

891
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: the end against trivial question. Yes, yes, there's text and ties.

892
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: It was it was Andy Heck.

893
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 2: Andy who was Andy Heck, who was a former tight

894
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: ended Notre Dame turned offensive tackle who then went to

895
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: the league and he and his wife birth won Charlie

896
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,479
Speaker 2: Heck and John Heck who's in our us in our way.

897
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, as very much so.

898
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's the one you've been I know, the

899
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: one that's Stephen didn't catch.

900
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: It's a tougher catch.

901
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: I think that people think because it was the lowest way,

902
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: it was kind of a I don't know, he threw

903
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: kind of a sinker. I mean, Derek has that in

904
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: end to kind of his Sometimes the throw is and

905
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 2: it's not always the pretty spiral, and Steven doesn't catch

906
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: that one, and then he catches the deep one after that,

907
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: and you're like, ah, but I think Steven Nelson's been.

908
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: As good as good in coverage this year and even

909
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 3: last year.

910
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: I thought he was tremendous last year, and I thought, well,

911
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: you know, he's going to a new team, you know, Okay,

912
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 2: does that continue this year? And there's all that nonsense

913
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: in the offseason about vess and social media and all that.

914
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: He's come back here and been brilliant, I mean brilliant

915
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 2: to a point where we've won three out of four

916
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 2: games since Derek Stingley went on ir right. And that's

917
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 2: a large that's a big reason for that is Steven Nelson.

918
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: Shack Griffin has been a big part of that.

919
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: Missed him against the Falcons, but he's played at a really,

920
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: really high level. And whether you know that last year reception. Look,

921
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: he's got three interceptions through six games. I mean he's

922
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: on a Pro Bowl clip right now. And that's the

923
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: other thing too. You start winning and you start getting

924
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 2: more attention people. Hey man, I hear the Texans are

925
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: playing pretty good. I'll check the boxer Steven Nelson. I'll

926
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: vote for him because they're playing pretty well. And then

927
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you get alternate and then you get

928
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 2: into Pro Bowl and he definitely deserves it. So you

929
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: had the big one, though, you had Cashman. That was

930
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: a great one.

931
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 3: He was weeks.

932
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 5: It was no big surprise.

933
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: Holy Couch was good man, he was good. That's the

934
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: best linebacker playoffs seen in a long time. I mean

935
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: it's the best. I mean, maybe sense of healthy cushion. Maybe,

936
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 2: I mean Zach Cunningham had some days. But Zach gave

937
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: you nothing in coverage. He gave you absolutely nothing coverage.

938
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: He was gonna he was gonna stop the run. But Zach,

939
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: you need to cover the tight end if he does this,

940
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: if he goes there, you don't do that. Like No,

941
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: he stopped the run and he was good at that coverage.

942
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 2: Cashman put it all together the other day.

943
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 6: That was great. That was really good.

944
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: No, Cashman is a guy. If you followed him with

945
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: his career in the Jets, early on, he showed flashes,

946
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: but then he just got injured at the wrong time.

947
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: Every single year went healthy. This is what he expected

948
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 1: to do. That's what he's doing.

949
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 5: Maybe because we had him on a huddle last week.

950
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: Yes, that's why he got the huddle impact. We had

951
00:38:59,400 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: Matt Burtle.

952
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: We have Matt Burkin here on last week going into

953
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 2: the game, gave up thirteen points, which, by the way,

954
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: how about the no one saying it's in three games

955
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: here have scored a total of two touchdowns against the Texans.

956
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 3: How about that? About that one and seven one the

957
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 3: other day? Only two and three games?

958
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: Geez, good to know, all right, well, we only have

959
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: one one more segment to go, Texans Huddle. John Harris

960
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: joining us, I'm in D She's DP, quick time out.

961
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: We'll be back for our final segment right after this.

962
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: One more segment to go, Texans Huddle. Let's get right

963
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: into it. We talked offense, we talked defense, but you

964
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: know this is the NFL, So then pretty boy quarterbacks

965
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: are going to get a segment to themselves, and when

966
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: the Texans come back, you're gonna have one versus two

967
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: CD Stroud taking on Bryce Young. Thoughts on that, let's

968
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 1: start with you, DP. Let's start thoughts on that matchup

969
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: with the two top rookies that were taking an episode.

970
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm definitely it's not what I expected it

971
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 4: to be. I did not expect the Panthers to be

972
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 4: oh to six. I mean, I thought the Texans could be,

973
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 4: if not three and three, close to it, but I

974
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 4: thought that the parody would be a lot closer between

975
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 4: Young and Stroud. And it seems like Stroud has really

976
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 4: surpassed everyone's expectations and the expectations that were on Bryce Young,

977
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 4: Bryce Stroud.

978
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 5: Bryce Young have not quite lived. It's not quite lived up.

979
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: To what it was.

980
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 4: Now there's still eleven games left, so a lot could change.

981
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 4: The Panthers just trying to get things together. I saw

982
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 4: Frank Reich is giving up his play calling duties to

983
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 4: you know, I guess for the foreseeable future, to Thomas

984
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 4: Brown to see.

985
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 3: We'll see at least for the game that matters, for.

986
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 5: The game that matters.

987
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 4: But I'm excited about this matchup because I think that

988
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 4: these two both have a lot of juice. They're very close,

989
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 4: and I think if Bryce is going to bring it

990
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 4: for any game, it's going to be against CJ. Stroud

991
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 4: because he's gonna he's gonna want to prove that he's

992
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 4: number one overall.

993
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 5: Pick.

994
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 4: That being said, I'm so so happy that Stroud is

995
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 4: our quarterback. I'm glad that Texans won Week eighteen last

996
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 4: year and it all worked out the way it is

997
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 4: because he CJ has been a lot of fun to watch,

998
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 4: a lot of fun to watch, and I think he

999
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 4: is He's we overcome like a lot of injuries and

1000
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 4: a lot of issues with you know what this team

1001
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 4: has had at the old line, new new play caller,

1002
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 4: new head coach. I mean, it's it's just been a

1003
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 4: lot of fun I am super excited. I'm still mad

1004
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 4: that they.

1005
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 5: Didn't flexus in the primetime. I don't care what the

1006
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 5: Panthers record is.

1007
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: Real quick before you give your take. When he gives

1008
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: up control, you talk about Frank Wright giving up control

1009
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: of play calling duties. Do you think the mindset is

1010
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: he's humble enough to say, you know what, whatever I'm

1011
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: doing is not work and let me try someone else.

1012
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: Or is he saying I'm gonna show y'all it's not

1013
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: just me. Let somebody else call call the plays and

1014
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: we still won't have success.

1015
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: Like do I think it's I think it's I think

1016
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: it's yeah, fifty to fifty. I mean, I think there's

1017
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: equal parts to that. And d I really do to say,

1018
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: And I don't think we've seen it.

1019
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 5: We've seen it here too. We've seen like play calling

1020
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 5: duties split.

1021
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 3: Up get taken.

1022
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: We've seen this throughout the league this year, which has

1023
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: been interesting. We've seen, you know, Doug Peterson at some

1024
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 2: point in the game against US turned over to Press

1025
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: Taylor and said, okay, you call him for the second half,

1026
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: and then they end up scoring I take seventeen in

1027
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 2: the second half. So there's been some of that this year.

1028
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 2: And look, that's a new staff kind of working together.

1029
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 2: It's the first time Frank Reich and Thomas Brown have

1030
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: been together. So you kind of kind of feel it

1031
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: out and then you go, all right, well, let's see

1032
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: what we got. And when you're zero and six, you're

1033
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: kind of grasping at straw. I's like, all right, I've

1034
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: done this, I've done this. What's the one thing? Oh,

1035
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: I still have Blake calling? Well, let's maybe I'm a

1036
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: better coach if I don't have to worry about that.

1037
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: So Thomas do it, let him game plan it. I'll

1038
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: step back kind of ceo this thing, and you know,

1039
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: see if that works.

1040
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 3: Could also mean there's pressure from above to do it too.

1041
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: We know how NFL teams can be, and especially in Carolina,

1042
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: Dave Tepper has really got some influence in the building,

1043
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: and so you know, who knows.

1044
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 3: Maybe that was something that you know, he suggested. Who knows.

1045
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: I just think Bryce has been put in a situation

1046
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: there with Carolina ad feelings really started to play well

1047
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: for them. I think he said eleven catches three the

1048
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: last four games. He's been really good. And when you

1049
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 2: have that trusty vet, I think CJ found it out

1050
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 2: with Robert.

1051
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 3: Think about it. First game against the Ravens. What does

1052
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 3: he do?

1053
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: He goes to Robert Woods over and over over on

1054
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: third down because he knows and can trust him. You

1055
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: go to the veteran at that point. I think Bryce

1056
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: has got feeling now. And I don't know if that

1057
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: was really there, but I think the offensive line in Carolina.

1058
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 3: Has really been a mess. It really has not been good.

1059
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: They have not gotten great play out of Ikyakwanu, a

1060
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 2: left tackle and Indy.

1061
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 3: You know, when you're hitting quarterback over and over and over.

1062
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: Again, that has an impact that start, he starts feeling it.

1063
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: Then obviously when you start hit a guy you know,

1064
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: arms starts feeling it, or he missed a game, deal

1065
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 2: with the ankle, all of that starts playing a role.

1066
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 2: Now you start feeling and seeing ghosts and you start

1067
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: throwing a ball the other team, and now your confidence

1068
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: is shot.

1069
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 3: I think he started to get his confidence back.

1070
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: Hopefully this bye week doesn't get it back to him

1071
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: in full look, I think Bryce is going to be

1072
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: a really good quarterback for the Carolina Panthers. I'm glad

1073
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: we have CJ. Stroud here. I had Bryce a shade

1074
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: ahead of CJ. But there were so many people in

1075
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: this town saying, no, no, you gotta have Bryce, gotta

1076
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: have Bryce. I'm so glad we got the guy that

1077
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: we do humble. I think we would have gotten the

1078
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: same guy from Bryce. I think Bryce is a humble guy,

1079
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: would have been a really good leader as well. I

1080
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: just think Stroud's in the right situation, right time, and

1081
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: I think Bryce will get there with Carolina eventually. I

1082
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: don't know if it's the Reich staff that's the one

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Speaker 2: that does it. He'll get there eventually. He's too good

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Speaker 2: of a football player for that.

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Speaker 1: They need to make sure, though, because you talked about

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Speaker 1: those ghosts, and when you were talking, you were describing

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Speaker 1: what happened right here in Houston years ago with David Carr. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and I remember when I was in Philly and we

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Speaker 1: were playing against the Texans. I don't know what was

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Speaker 1: going on with the offensive line, and I don't want

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Speaker 1: to put any one offensive lineman on the spot because

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Speaker 1: I probably became teammates with him. Yeah, but there was

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Speaker 1: a point where myself and Hugh Douglas were on the

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Speaker 1: sideline scratching our head and no joke Hugh looked at

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Speaker 1: me and said, do you think they don't like him?

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Speaker 1: And he was talking about the offensive line and David

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Speaker 1: Carr because we were just getting through their like wet

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Speaker 1: toilet paper. And it affected David Carr for the remainder

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Speaker 1: of his career because when I came here in Houston

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Speaker 1: and I saw David Carr practice, I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: this guy's good.

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Speaker 6: He's fast, he's.

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Speaker 1: Strong, he's smart. But then in game it was just

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Speaker 1: a different person. So the Carolina Panthers, for the sake

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Speaker 1: of Bryce Young and his career, they need to be

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Speaker 1: very careful that they invest in a lot of offensive linemen,

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00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: a lot of schemes where it's gonna protect him or

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Speaker 1: he's gonna hear those ghosts throughout his career.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if they continue down this road, they'll

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Speaker 2: get the number one pick.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, it's going to Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I mean it is, it's going to Chicago.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I.

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Speaker 5: Season play.

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Speaker 4: He's a quarterback whisper, he's a season play caller.

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Speaker 5: Like, I'm a little surprised by this.

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Speaker 4: I think with Demiko Ryan's everybody's concern was, well, if

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Speaker 4: the Texans take a quarterback, you've got a defensive minded

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Speaker 4: head coach, what will you do? And you need to

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Speaker 4: have a seasoned, you know, signal caller. And Bobby Slowick

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Speaker 4: is just a young dude with a lot of creativity,

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Speaker 4: who's really smart, who knows both sides of the ball

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Speaker 4: really well.

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Speaker 2: Well, Frank should know a little bit better too. In

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, the game that we play against the coach

1126
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Speaker 2: was Week four. Up there, Andrew luck through sixty two

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Speaker 2: times and Chris Ballad went to Frank at that point

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Speaker 2: and said, Frank, and they had a young offensive line

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Speaker 2: at that point. Quentin Nelson was a rookie, Brad Smith

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Speaker 2: was a rookie. Ryan Kelly was like his second year.

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Speaker 2: He's like, Frank, you gotta let those guys hit somebody.

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00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: You gotta let those guys up front hit somebody and

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00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: let them go forward. Let them go forward instead of

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Speaker 2: always thinking back. Let them get some physicality. And all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden they started finding balance between run and pass,

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Speaker 2: and Andrew had his best year ever and an offensive

1137
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Speaker 2: line became one of the best in the league. Not

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Speaker 2: saying that more run game for Carolina would help Bryce,

1139
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Speaker 2: but it might help and something Frank probably needs to

1140
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Speaker 2: think about.

1141
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Speaker 3: From his past. Hey, that worked in twenty eighteen. Let's

1142
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Speaker 3: do it here.

1143
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: That way, We're not relying on Bryce all the time.

1144
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: We can rely on the run game a little bit

1145
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: and then give Bryce some better throwing situations. And now

1146
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: that offensive line kind of has their defense on his

1147
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: heels a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But if you know, it's third and nine and he's hauling.

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Speaker 2: Off again to the quarterback, it was third and two, boy,

1150
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: I better protect the sea gap over here because Mike,

1151
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. And all of a sudden, you're not

1152
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 2: as quick to rush. Now you get the ball off.

1153
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: Now your first downs and thinks go from there. So

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Speaker 2: I think maybe that's what the Panthers probably will try

1155
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: and do through this buy. Thomas Brown was once a

1156
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: running back, so you never know, I want to see

1157
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Speaker 2: his running back sit fature a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for Texans Huddle, Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access coming up next. You know what, we need

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Speaker 1: to have a bye week every other week so we

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Speaker 1: could get Johnny's a lot.

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Speaker 5: We've learned everything about both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 4: We've come up with the formula that's going to be

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Speaker 4: top secret from here on out.

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Speaker 5: Maybe that's something we can work on until the next

1166
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Speaker 5: by way.

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Speaker 3: And we're all gonna wear hangles we.

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Speaker 1: Learned hango kids. That's the podcast, all right, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for us. Do not test that now, Text

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Speaker 1: and all access coming up next. Just leave it right here.