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Speaker 1: Advice Shog. Hello Lo Lo, Lo, Welcome to the Naughty

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Speaker 1: but Night Show. I'm your host, Rob Shooter. It is Friday,

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Speaker 1: which means our friend Corey Andrew joins us. Corey, are

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Speaker 1: you there? I am here, Happy Friday. Happy Friday, Darling.

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Speaker 1: We've got so much gossip we're gonna jump right into

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Speaker 1: the show. What time is it, my friends? It is

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Speaker 1: Jeez time. So Victoria's Secrets is nixing their angels, their

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Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret Angels goodbye, and instead they're replacing them with

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Speaker 1: Prianca Chopra and Megan Rappino. I said, the embattled lingerie

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Speaker 1: brand is nixing it's iconic angels and instead they're gonna

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Speaker 1: favor quote famous people for their achievements, not their proportions.

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Speaker 1: So Prinka Chopra has signed on also to soccer star

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Speaker 1: Megan two great inclusive people. The brand executive said the

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Speaker 1: following quote. When the world was changing, we were slow

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Speaker 1: to respond. Now they're trying to make up for lost ground. Corey.

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Speaker 1: Is it too late? Well, that brand has always been

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Speaker 1: identified with supermodels and like superhuman proportions. I agree with them,

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Speaker 1: but I think that's what made them stand out right.

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Speaker 1: They were like that sort of upper echelon of aspiration

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Speaker 1: from body types. So now there's a backlash against that.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe it's a little late, but

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Speaker 1: enough money in a campaign, you can revamp there, and

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Speaker 1: you can change the public's perception. You can change brands.

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Speaker 1: So another thing they're saying is they want to stop

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Speaker 1: being about what men want and more about what women want.

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Speaker 1: I've been to those shows in my days of working

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Speaker 1: for Naomi Campbell and Tyra Banks. I've been to the shows.

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Speaker 1: They are inches away from being a strip club. Most

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Speaker 1: of the audience was men. The women who went and

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Speaker 1: sat in the audience seemed to be not allowed to

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Speaker 1: sit on the front row. In fact, I remember I

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Speaker 1: was there and Debbie Harry, the legendary Debbie Harry. They

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Speaker 1: used her song. Her song was in the show, but

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Speaker 1: Debbie herself was sort of hidden in the crowd. Yet

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Speaker 1: they're sitting on the front row. Was Donald Trump and

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Speaker 1: eteen a bunch of people. This brand has really been tarnished.

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Speaker 1: It just goes to show you how you've got to

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Speaker 1: change with the times, or maybe always be a good brand.

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Speaker 1: If you're good and decent and inclusive and kind, then

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Speaker 1: you really don't have to change with the times. They

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Speaker 1: seem to be values that never changed. This is so problematic.

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Speaker 1: I've worked with a lot of companies and brands and celebrities.

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Speaker 1: I think Princa, I think Megan will help. They certainly

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Speaker 1: know what they're getting into. Began actually said that in

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Speaker 1: the past, the brand has been really harmful to women,

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Speaker 1: and he's sexist, and it's been marketed too towards young

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Speaker 1: women with really unrealistic expectations. Now they're going to try

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Speaker 1: and work and fix that. But critics are saying that

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Speaker 1: any rebranding with that size expansion, yeah, is dead on

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Speaker 1: a rival. I mean, come on, look at how they

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Speaker 1: They're both in great, great shape. And I'll just say

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Speaker 1: really quickly, I used to be a copywriter for Victoria's Secrets,

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Speaker 1: so working on the inside is just a strange They say,

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Speaker 1: we wanted to try something different, new, fresh advertising, but

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Speaker 1: they would always come back met at my copy because

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Speaker 1: I wasn't saying look at me, I'm wearing a bra.

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Speaker 1: That's all they really wanted me to say. And it

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Speaker 1: just was a bad job. I left. Sometimes I think

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Speaker 1: I believe you. Sometimes I think, though, when brands don't

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Speaker 1: work when they've outlived their time, close them down. Like

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Speaker 1: you know, I know, I'm talking about people's jobs. I

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Speaker 1: get it. But sometimes the world changes and instead of

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Speaker 1: adapting and a new find a new brand. Like I

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Speaker 1: don't know if my girlfriends, my friends will ever see

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Speaker 1: Victoria's Secrets as anything but Tyra Banks in a pair

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Speaker 1: of angel winks, which is very fern and over the

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Speaker 1: top and sort of ridiculous. But the brand was so big,

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Speaker 1: girls on the runway and their bras, their panties, their

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Speaker 1: their wings. I think that trying to change this is

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Speaker 1: going to be a real uphill battle, which brings us

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Speaker 1: to our phole question of the day. Victoria's Secrets is

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Speaker 1: nixing their angels? Is there's a good idea or a

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Speaker 1: bad idea? Hey, go vert on our Twitter page at

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Speaker 1: Naughty Nice Rob or our Facebook page is Naughty Gossip.

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Speaker 1: Leave a comment there. I can't wait to see what

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Speaker 1: you say, and be sure to check back tomorrow for

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Speaker 1: your results. Corey Love, what are you working on that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: As well? You know, speaking of like sexy stuff, Kim

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Speaker 1: car Dash and will continue to post her suggestive photos

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Speaker 1: even after becoming a lawyer. Kim is giving some of

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Speaker 1: her sexy photos a second thought as she looks towards

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Speaker 1: her future as a lawyer, and she's sharing that she's

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Speaker 1: considered a possible conflict between her social media presence and

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Speaker 1: her career. I thought about this and I thought, you

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Speaker 1: can do it all. Okay, that's my Kim impression, but

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Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want, Kim told Andy. And

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Speaker 1: going to the White House one time, and she says,

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Speaker 1: I posted a bikini pick. I hope they're not looking

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Speaker 1: at my Instagram right now while I'm here. And then

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Speaker 1: and so I agree with that to a degree. But

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Speaker 1: the businesswoman and mother of four went on to say

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Speaker 1: that she feels that there's something empowering about the dichotomy

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Speaker 1: and still she takes her children into consideration that which

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Speaker 1: that embarrassing mom that's posing in Selfie's and bikini's online.

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Speaker 1: She says there will be limits. Um, but rob you

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Speaker 1: know to think about Kim is that once you gotten

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Speaker 1: famous for a full on like Triple X sex tape, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's like you can't like all of

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Speaker 1: So I'm not sure how she's going to balance that,

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Speaker 1: but I wish her, Well, what do you think about that?

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Speaker 1: I think she's already balancing yet. And I think the

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Speaker 1: reason it works is that this is the truth. This

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Speaker 1: is who Kim is. And that's my problem with Victoria's secrets.

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Speaker 1: You've just got through it. Call right, it's a lie.

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Speaker 1: It's not who they are. It's not in D and A.

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Speaker 1: It's not who Victoria's secrets is. Kim is who she is,

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Speaker 1: and as she's growing up, as she's got a little older,

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Speaker 1: she might have changed little bit, but ultimately she's still

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Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian and I sort of admire her for that.

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Speaker 1: What I like the most in my friends and celebrities

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Speaker 1: a lot. I'm quite open minded. I really embrace diversity,

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Speaker 1: but I don't like lies. And I like the truth.

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Speaker 1: So if you're a peacock, be a peacock. If you're

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Speaker 1: a little bit more reserved, be more reserved. It's all fine.

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Speaker 1: Just stop trying to be somebody else. And that's what

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Speaker 1: Kim always owns and that's why she's always successful. You

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Speaker 1: can smell a phony a mile off. You can smell

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Speaker 1: a phony baloney right away, and Kim isn't. She's authentic.

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Speaker 1: You might not like it. I get it. It's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Kim makes me blush when I opened her Instagram. I can,

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Speaker 1: but it's definitely Kim notorious secrets. I feel like they're

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Speaker 1: also think too, they're not changing because they decided to evolve.

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Speaker 1: This was part of the brand or growth. They got

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Speaker 1: caught in trouble. Maybe wants to buy their stuff anymore

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Speaker 1: and said, yeah, now they're going to be like a

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Speaker 1: more more inclusive I've got to buy high Horse having

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Speaker 1: moving along, John Legends silence about his wife, he's putting

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Speaker 1: So johna said basically nothing. Since Chrissy has been accused

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Speaker 1: of cyber bullying in the past. Now, Brandon experts Eric

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Speaker 1: Schiffer tells Fox the following quote. He meaning John, he's

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Speaker 1: stuck in this bitter choice between the love of his

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Speaker 1: Cause sometimes when we're scared to say anything, we just

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Speaker 1: saying a very very large amount. What do you think

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Speaker 1: two of them have often been so calculating and how

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Speaker 1: this so that John can take a side that's passed ative,

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Speaker 1: right and and proactive. He's a he's a partner, like

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Speaker 1: in a meditation app about wellness, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: They're married, we know them as a couple, and it

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Speaker 1: John can say I love my wife. She's an amazing

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Speaker 1: And so I think John not saying anything makes him

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Speaker 1: complicity here. And I don't think he's doing it because

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Speaker 1: think he's just scared. But the problem is by saying nothing, John,

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Speaker 1: He did. He did speak to TMZ the camera's courting

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Speaker 1: and he flippantly said she's doing great. Terrible answer, John,

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Speaker 1: But she's in a bad shape. Hey, what's going on

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Speaker 1: with them? Gwyneth Paltrow, let's lighten the mood. Grenville. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I know Athero. I think John Legend better call you

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Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow thinks of Chris Martin as quote, my brother

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Speaker 1: and I love this story. So Gwyneth Paltrow opened up

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Speaker 1: about how lucky she feels to have a great relationship

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Speaker 1: with her ex husband Chris Martin. Of course, Martin is

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Speaker 1: the front man of the amazing group called Play Oh

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Speaker 1: Me Too. I think you're just so super But she says,

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Speaker 1: she married in two thousand eighteen, while the Grammy winner

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Speaker 1: has been dating actress Dakode of Fanning since two thousand nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of fifty grades of whatever shades or whatever it's called, Um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: parenting story, and you need to hear more of those

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Speaker 1: because parents are always fighting in court over children. These

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