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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with her radio. Hey guys, welcome to the finale episode

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Speaker 1: of Paradise Recap with Me, Ashley I and Ben Higgins,

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Speaker 1: the wonderful, amazing, spectacular, unbelievable human Higgins. That's great, Thank

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Speaker 1: you for that. I know you're gonna take that opportunity

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Speaker 1: to do something ridiculous. Um, Ashley, you know this gets

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Speaker 1: me thinking here, maybe the team can work on it.

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Speaker 1: How many seasons since we started this show? Now? Have

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Speaker 1: we started and successfully completed so many? So we started

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Speaker 1: with nixt season, right? Or do we start with we

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Speaker 1: start Rachel season or next season? I think? Nick, Wait,

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Speaker 1: but we started in May, so wouldn't even Rachel's Or

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Speaker 1: do we start before Wait? Who was before Rachel? Nick? Nick? No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: but who was the Bachelor before Joel? Jojo? We didn't

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Speaker 1: do Jojo? We did not do jo No. I was

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Speaker 1: going through stuff, weren't well. Anyways, we've we've started complete

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Speaker 1: a lot with you all listeners. Every end of season,

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Speaker 1: we do like to take a second just say thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening, thanks for hanging out with us, thanks for

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Speaker 1: tuning in. It's been a wild ride and I feel

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Speaker 1: like this Paradise, um, and I'll just be honest, this

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Speaker 1: paradise For the first time in a long time as

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Speaker 1: we enter into a season, it did not disappoint me.

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Speaker 1: And I've been disappointed by um some of the Bachelor

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Speaker 1: and bachelorrette. It's not all of them. In the last

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Speaker 1: few years, especially the Bachelor's I thought the Bachelor seasons

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Speaker 1: have like fallen way short, um than what we than

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Speaker 1: what most people expect and hope for. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Tatia season, the Clayre kind of season there, that

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Speaker 1: was a great season. Um, matt season had moments and

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Speaker 1: then kind of did it It kind of just like

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Speaker 1: became repetitive after a while. But this Paradise season kept

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Speaker 1: me intrigued the whole time. I know it um juiced up.

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Speaker 1: It repped up my engine for the whole franchise. Am

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Speaker 1: I crazy to say that? Like? Am I? Am? I

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Speaker 1: just speaking at a turn there? Do you feel similar? No,

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Speaker 1: Because I always know how I feel about a season

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Speaker 1: based on how I feel when I see the screener

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Speaker 1: in our inbox and if I want to like watch

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Speaker 1: it now or I'm excited to watch it, then like

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Speaker 1: then I know it's good and if it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's work for me to watch it, then oh it's

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Speaker 1: not so good. You're not into it. Well, uh, let's

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Speaker 1: start with the breakdown of this week's episode, the finale

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Speaker 1: episode of Bachelor in Paradise. There's a ton to talk about,

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Speaker 1: a ton to chat through. We had three hours Ashley

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Speaker 1: of drama that everybody endured and probably semi enjoyed this week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a little slow at first because it was a

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Speaker 1: little because you know the formula, you know, you know

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Speaker 1: that there's gonna be that rose ceremony and then like

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Speaker 1: people are going to give each other roses and then

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Speaker 1: the next morning they're not going to give they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to break up. Yeah, So I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: don't love that part is that when we start, no,

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Speaker 1: I think we started. Where did we start? Did we start?

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Speaker 1: We started with the breakup of Noah and Abigail. We

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Speaker 1: started with the breakup of nov and Abigail. We also

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Speaker 1: I mean I kind of was thinking at that point, oh,

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Speaker 1: is a serious thing. Um. But then we go into

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Speaker 1: the rose ceremony, where if we just really want to

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Speaker 1: fast forward through, there's nothing that shocking there except for

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Speaker 1: Natasha does go home after being sick, and like, I

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Speaker 1: think that's something to know. You know, her journey here

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Speaker 1: her and Ed are meant to be together. But that's

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Speaker 1: just my sideline judgment. And she was sick, so not

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Speaker 1: shocking she goes home, but also Chelsea goes home, which

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Speaker 1: don't know. I felt like I saw both of those coming.

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Speaker 1: Either of them were in a serious relationship, and those

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Speaker 1: are just stupid roses. Anyway, I don't know why they

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Speaker 1: How Wells was like, we're gonna cancel the cocktail party.

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Speaker 1: Why don't they do that thing where like they have

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Speaker 1: I think there's a good answer for that. They had

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Speaker 1: go on there. Well. Actually, uh, as we fast forward

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Speaker 1: A somebody has been to the beach. I've never really

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Speaker 1: been to be I have so much to say about this,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know what to say. Well, and I

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Speaker 1: do want you to say it all. Here's my question

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Speaker 1: for you. Okay, So you're in Paradise, You've met somebody

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Speaker 1: a couple of days before, you're hopeful of what is

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Speaker 1: to come, and you might be doubting your relationship. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this I'm speaking really here with the Ed McKinnell situation.

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, there's those are the ones that are really

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Speaker 1: highlighting me. So you have the opportunity to spend a

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Speaker 1: you want. Right. I think we assume that you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody hooks up. That's not I don't think it has

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Speaker 1: the case. But you have a great night together to

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Speaker 1: get to know each other more. It what is the

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Speaker 1: process for somebody to like think through this, and how

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Speaker 1: are they so convinced to say no? Because I know

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Speaker 1: in my life being on the show, there is this

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Speaker 1: like almost I don't want to say addiction, but there's

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Speaker 1: just because you want to see what happens. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: everybody there was pretty confident in their nose and it

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Speaker 1: happened every season. Why are they like, what's that? What's

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Speaker 1: that couple hours look like where you're sifting through if

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Speaker 1: you want to stay or not? I would say, look

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Speaker 1: it doesn't. It's it's just really that I would like

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Speaker 1: it for that, um, for this portion of the series

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Speaker 1: to just be for people who plan to be engaged.

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Speaker 1: That's fair, but Ashley, let me let me poke at

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Speaker 1: this a little bit, Okay, if that's okay. So all season,

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Speaker 1: can't really judge them for that because I think I

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Speaker 1: not more than twelve hours you're getting a rose from

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Speaker 1: a human and you're saying yes to it, and then

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Speaker 1: twelve hours later you're ending the relationship. I don't understand

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Speaker 1: what's happening. Nothing is happening, that's the thing. The feelings

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Speaker 1: aren't changing. I feel like you're filtering a little more

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Speaker 1: be straight honest. Yes, we ought to know, because here's

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Speaker 1: the beauty of it. The beauty of it is we

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Speaker 1: watch this show for the drama and the love. The

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Speaker 1: love still exists. This is like a very b storyline

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Speaker 1: of the people breaking up. It doesn't even really matter.

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Speaker 1: But there's something that happens where people break up twelve

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Speaker 1: hours after accepting a I don't understand how Okay, So

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Speaker 1: basically you're pretty much told one person in the party,

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Speaker 1: you just can't. There's not an option. There's truly not

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Speaker 1: after after you get back, well that's fair. Okay, that's great,

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Speaker 1: that's good to know, and it's not even unfair from

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Speaker 1: Like I don't I don't necessarily want to watch Ed

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Speaker 1: And then like one person in that party who was

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Speaker 1: they actually like each other and they're they're gonna date

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Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, why didn't she just I know it

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Speaker 1: was her drama stake, but why didn't we just say

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Speaker 1: let's date? Um, I don't think that our relationship is

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Speaker 1: the end, it says they're dating and in love, and

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Speaker 1: not getting engaged, but let's date in real life. I

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Speaker 1: guess it's just less anti climactic. It just doesn't give

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Speaker 1: wanted to be back on that beach because about two

427
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: weeks prior before we went down to Salulta the film,

428
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: we were already there for Dean's brother's wedding and so

429
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 1: we tried to sneak down and we're like, hey, we're

430
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: cast members, like we're supposed to be here, and we

431
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: totally got kicked off. So that's definitely a main reason

432
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 1: we wanted to go back was just to like reminisce

433
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: and something the pool and remember the spot where we

434
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 1: left together. It was super special. Now tell me this,

435
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 1: did you go back? I Mean, this might be boring,

436
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: but it's interesting to me as a friend. Did you

437
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: go back home? In the come back down for the show. Yeah,

438
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: it was well, it was weird because we had talked

439
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: about maybe going down to host an episode UM, but

440
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: there was a lot of like uncertainty up in the

441
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: air revolving around it. So I drove my van down

442
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: from Vegas to startly for like thirty hours, and then

443
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: they didn't. It didn't seem like it was gonna happen,

444
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 1: and so I just drove my van back up to

445
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: America and then like three days later they're, yeah, we

446
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: want you to come. You're leaving tomorrow. So it all

447
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: it like logistically it was pretty inefficient, but it was

448
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: also one of those things where my van, you know it,

449
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: I think it was very illegally, Like I didn't get

450
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 1: the top of permitting for it to be in Mexico,

451
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: and so I was like kind of worried about it

452
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: being down there for too long. Yeah, you are something else, man.

453
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 1: You always impressed me. You and Caitlin both are are

454
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: two people that continue to make life interesting. Your love

455
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: inspires many thanks for joining us, Thanks for taking some

456
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: time out of your busy road trip UM to to

457
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: give us a call. You did great this week, both

458
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: of you. You look just fantastic, and I'm so thankful

459
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: um that I could watch the TV and go, hey,

460
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: I know those guys, I know them, I like them.

461
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: Thank for having It's always fun to talk to you,

462
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,719
Speaker 1: my favorite people in the whole life world. You're just

463
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: the sweetest. Same to you, guys. All right, we'll see

464
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: you soon, but really we'll see you soon. We're excited

465
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: about it. Bye bye bye. So, of course, no surprise.

466
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: The three couples that make it through these conversations are

467
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: Marissa and Riley, Serena and Joe, and Marie and Kenny,

468
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: and they all are headed off to dinner and fantasy suits.

469
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: And I feel like they all went really well. There

470
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: wasn't any that I felt like that they were off.

471
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: I think they've tried to insinuate that there maybe like

472
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: some doubt on Riley's end, but then like I knew

473
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: that was like faked out, you know, like somebody had

474
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: to scare somebody. I feel like I was very I

475
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: feel very confident in these relationships. And if you had

476
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: asked me a couple of weeks ago, I would say,

477
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: like I only felt confident about like maybe Joe and Serena. Yeah,

478
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: it's funny and I want to I want to break

479
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: here actually just talk about we got some emails and

480
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 1: messages from the listeners out there, and we appreciate all

481
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: of them. I won't call you out by name, but

482
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: you know who you are, and um, there's many kind

483
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: of highlighting that, Yeah, you and I aren't crazy. We

484
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: did see a snippet of Damar and Marissa. Yeah we're

485
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: not crazy. We did see it, and they saw it,

486
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: and some people sent it in and I was able

487
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: to check through email and and some of our direct

488
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: messages and see some of these things come in. So

489
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: what happened there? I don't know. We'll have to ask

490
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: it a later date. Maybe. I don't know if it's

491
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: even appropriate now. I don't know if anybody would love

492
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, what happen did you make it

493
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 1: out with this dude on the beach? But uh, we

494
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: can ask cast members. Maybe won't. We won't ask Riley

495
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: and hers, but we'll ask somebody who was there. We

496
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: might stay away from that, but we weren't crazy for that.

497
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: I think this. I found it. Um, Riley is good

498
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: at it. I thought it was funny and like, I

499
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: think it's a like. At first, I was like Oh,

500
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: that's so mean, like that he would do that to her.

501
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: But I think it's a part of their playful relationship,

502
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: like that she like, you know, with in my relationship

503
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: with Jess, Like Jess is super gullable, like insanely gullable,

504
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: and so I have a great time like just throwing

505
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: in something where she's like no way, like I don't

506
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: believe that, and I like go with it for a bit,

507
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: and then I'm kidding, Hunt, that's crazy. Why would you

508
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: even ever think that that was true. It's kind of

509
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: like I think what they're doing, what Riley Marissa have

510
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: going on, and it's it feels like really brutally like mean,

511
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: But then it's kind of funny because they always kiss

512
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: and make up and she's like, oh, hey you, I

513
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: love you, you know at the end. Um. But I was,

514
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, I was like super encouraged from these conversation

515
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: Asians at dinner. I know, I know you were too.

516
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: I was watching these and I don't know what these

517
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: couples are out today, like if they're still together, and

518
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: we'll find out very soon, probably after after this week's episode,

519
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: but I really felt like, hey, there's some good stuff here,

520
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: like even Kenny and Mary, like they had some really

521
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: good conversation about age, about different places in life, about

522
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: different things they've been through, and they work through that stuff,

523
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this could work, Like these all could work.

524
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: Can you believe that Kenny had never said I Love

525
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: you to somebody at the age of forty No? Um,

526
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: But I also have a feeling Kenney's ran a pretty

527
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: fast life for forty years of his life. Not only

528
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of time to fall in love. Well,

529
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: I'm really happy for that man. No, it's really cute.

530
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: It all feels pretty good. I feel like there's a

531
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: bad track record though, when there's three engaged couples coming

532
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: out of Paradise. So I can't help but like have

533
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: that cloud in my mind when I think back on

534
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: previous seasons. It's almost like every time there's three, there's

535
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 1: usually one that survives. So not to be cynical, Well,

536
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: the Serena Joe one, I would be I would actually

537
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: be sad, Like I think, like, because I like Joe

538
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: so much, I've never met Serena. I'd be sad if

539
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: they broke up because it feels like he took a

540
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: lot of time to think through this process that it

541
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 1: felt like they were very good together. They cared about

542
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: each other a lot. I think it's the one that

543
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: I would be sad Riley and Marissa. I just like, like,

544
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: I enjoy watching them together. I think they have a

545
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: good like chemistry. I feel like, um, they both really

546
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: enjoy being around each other. They are very open with

547
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: each other, and um, that one, Kenny and Marie is

548
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: the probably the three, the one I'm like, hey, I

549
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: don't know where this goes, but I want to see

550
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: it work. I won't I'm not exactly like all my

551
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: chips on the table all in that they're gonna work,

552
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: but I want to see it work because I think

553
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: they're good together. But that's the one that I'm like, yeah,

554
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: I don't really know. The other two I'm really really hoping,

555
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: like and thinking will make it work. I pretty much agree.

556
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: I think like the big thing left to talk about

557
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: is Kendall's appearance at Joe's proposal and how he was

558
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: actually truly rattled. Okay, well, I guess there's a couple

559
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: of things. Let's lead up to that. Because the first

560
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: engagement we have is Kenny and Marie, and it was

561
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: very cute. Anything to say specifically about it. Yeah, I

562
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 1: mean all of these engagements actually were so uniquely unique

563
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: to each couple. I think the thing I want to

564
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: say is like Kenny was Kenny in this engagement and

565
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: he like was nervous and he he. I will say

566
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: I was underwhelmed with Marie's response, Like I didn't know

567
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: she was gonna say yes at first. She was like yeah,

568
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: of course, like either she's super confident in their relationship

569
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: or like this threw her off, or she just you know,

570
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: that's how she, you know, reacts. But do you know

571
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: Joe is Joe where he's like I just got on

572
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: one knee and he's like, Serena, will you marry me?

573
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't you know, it wasn't fluffy, It wasn't like,

574
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, super drawn out. Um Riley you know, joked

575
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: around a lot during his I would say the especially

576
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: with Kenny, I was so um endeared with his nervousness

577
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: because for a guy that's never told anybody he loves them,

578
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: you could tell this meant so much to him, which

579
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: is why I am also hoping they work, because it

580
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: was like a very sweet like that of all of them,

581
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: that one stood out I was like the hardest probably

582
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: thing for him to do, but also the most beautiful

583
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: because it was so sweet. Yeah, it was very sweet.

584
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: I just I just feel bad from Marissa and and

585
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: Riley and how sweaty they We gotta talk about that. Actually,

586
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: I feel bad because I think it's gonna be the

587
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 1: talk of the town tonight during the proposals. But I

588
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: feel really bad because they must have had like the

589
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: peak of the sun. You know, it must have been

590
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: like straight up noon during their proposal, and she was

591
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: drenched and like, for some reason, the camera looked even more. HD.

592
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: She's gorgeous. She's never not gonna look gorgeous, but she's

593
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: never gonna want to watch herself. Oh you can see

594
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: like the sweat beads dripping down the sides of her face.

595
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: And here's my question for you. We talked about every season,

596
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: but you know we're gonna go back to like Josh Murray,

597
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: who just like was soaked. And then we got Thomas.

598
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if you noticed this during a Rose ceremony. Uh,

599
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: Jess and I were watching it. We're like that poor

600
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: Duty sitting on a couch and he can't stop from sweating.

601
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: And then you have Marissa, and this is what I

602
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: think happened with Marissa. Again, I have no clue, but

603
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: you know when you like jump out of the shower

604
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: in a hot day, you're like hot, you jump in

605
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: the shower to like clean up, then you throw some

606
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: clothes on, you get out, and like your body just

607
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: sweats like extra bad. It kind of looked like that

608
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: for her because she was beautiful, so well done up,

609
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: like just glowing, but it looked like she'd probably showered

610
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: like within the last you know, hour, and went outside

611
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: to put makeup on and just couldn't stop sweating because

612
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: that that poor girl was drenched, I know, and the

613
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: back too. You could just see it was everywhere it was.

614
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: It's truly that hot. I looked like that a lot um.

615
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: I just think that the way that the sun was

616
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: and the way the camera work was it just exacerbated it.

617
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: But I also feel like, you know, when you're nervous,

618
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: you may get like a little like upper lips sweat

619
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: or like you got people could like their forehead sweat

620
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: when they're nervous. So I think that's what made it

621
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: even worse. Oh, it was brutal. I mean, it's hard

622
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: to watch and like I'm not know that, And I

623
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: hope people will understand that everybody would be in that

624
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: situation if they're on the beach. Yeah, but it like

625
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 1: it's like it's hard to see because you're you just

626
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: know how uncomfortable they all are, and then how much

627
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: you want to look good for that moment, like you

628
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: that's really what it That's what I feel bad about

629
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: is that, like I know she'll never be able to

630
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: watch that moment back without being distracted by hair on sweat. Yeah,

631
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: it was, it was. It just makes you feel for him. Oh,

632
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: it's so hot the beach, that platform is probably just

633
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: burning up. Um. But yes, there's a good note, Ashley. So,

634
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: now Kendall speaking about sweaty moments, Joe, his heart must

635
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: have just dropped to his feet when he saw Kendall

636
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: walking up. I don't know. I think that like Joe

637
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: knows Kendall well enough to know that she wasn't actually

638
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: there to like stop an engagement. I think like he

639
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: must have known in his heart that she was there

640
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: to like kind of give her blessing. But you also

641
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: know that he's in part of this franchise long enough

642
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: to be like, are you kidding me. They're doing this

643
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: to me right now? I uh yeah, I don't know

644
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: if I was convinced that she wasn't trying to like

645
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: step in and be like, hey, Joe, before you do this,

646
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm still here. But once you see it, right she

647
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: she wasn't that way like I. When she walked down.

648
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: That was my initial thought was Kindle, come on. And

649
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: then she did it and it was sweet. It didn't

650
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: and tell me if I'm crazy. It was a good gesture.

651
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was necessary. I don't think

652
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: Joe needed it. Maybe yeah, maybe Kindle needed it just

653
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: to like because she was feeling you know, bad about

654
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, her time there and how you know, she

655
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: kind of made it difficult. I don't know. It didn't

656
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: land to me though it didn't land it did end. Yeah, Okay,

657
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it didn't land sweet to me,

658
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: and it also didn't land bad to me. It was

659
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: just kind of like, this just wasn't necessary. It landed

660
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: to me as if it was a reiteration of their

661
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: last conversation because all she did was say I came

662
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: here in hopes to get closure and go on dating

663
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: other people. And it's exactly pretty much what she said

664
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: to him. Um, and then she said I'm excited for you,

665
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: which was nice. But I think the intention of it

666
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: was not for him to change his mind, but maybe

667
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: to just shake him a little bit um, to make

668
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: him think about everything one last time. Maybe maybe. But

669
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: was that her intention or was that the show's intention.

670
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: I think it may have been the show's intention to

671
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: freak him out. I don't think Kendall had any ill

672
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: will in that moment. Yeah, but Kendall also agreed to

673
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: go down and and and so she knew as she

674
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: was walking into and I'm just thinking about my past

675
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: relationships because that's the only thing we can speak to, right. Um.

676
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: I you know, back in college, I had a girlfriend

677
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: who I cared deeply about, who broke up with me,

678
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: who you know, we started talking again, who started dating

679
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: somebody else. And at some point, as hard as that

680
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: is to see, you've just got to separate yourself from it,

681
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: like completely. You've got to start to move on and celebrate.

682
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: And maybe, and I say all this to say, maybe

683
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: that was Kendall's thing, was like she felt like she

684
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: just needed one last time so she could separate herself

685
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: completely and show Joe, hey, this is all good. I

686
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: think it was more for Kindle than it was for Joe.

687
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't think Joe needed it at all. I don't

688
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: think necessarily he wanted it, and probably after she left

689
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: thought that was sweet. I think what he what was

690
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: necessary there was she Kindle needed like the last thing

691
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: to be said, and that was Joe, I want you happy,

692
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: move on. And so she felt a little better about

693
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: herself because how she left the beach. I thought their

694
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: relationship was over, but there was that tinge, that little

695
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: small amount that felt like she was getting broken up

696
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: with again, and that she was leaving saying Joe, I

697
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: still want you back, and he's saying I don't. So

698
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: maybe this was just her way to like kind of

699
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: bring it full circle and say, hey, just let you

700
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: know we're both on the same page. We're good to

701
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: move forward. Yeah, my thoughts are all over the place.

702
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: I started this conversation by saying she didn't want to

703
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: she didn't want to break anything up, But then I

704
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: continued to say that maybe she wanted to shake him.

705
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: I don't think. I really don't know. I don't know.

706
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be a great I

707
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be received very well by the public. No,

708
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: I know, and that makes you sad for Kendall hard Well.

709
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: Kindle's great and everybody should know that, and I think

710
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: they do. I don't think people are gonna like jump

711
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: on top of her and like just yell and screaming.

712
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: I hope not. That'd be crazy. I just don't think

713
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: people are gonna be like that was a good move. Like,

714
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: I think people are gonna be like that felt a

715
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: little much. I that would be my assumption. I don't know.

716
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: I just don't think people are going to be super

717
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: like on board with that moment. It's also hard for

718
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: me to see because I've been in the situation. It's

719
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: also hard for me to see Joe in that moment,

720
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: because he is preparing for what I believe, as a

721
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: fewer and a fan of his, is maybe the most important,

722
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 1: one of the most important moments of his life, where

723
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: he proposes to his future wife. And I know how

724
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: awkward it is to have that ruined in a lot

725
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 1: of ways with somebody else being there. That moment is

726
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: a sacred moment and with Jesse and I like it

727
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: was a sacred moment for us, one that like is

728
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: is beautiful. Now, I can't always say that from my experiences. Right,

729
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: everybody knows what I'm talking about. But it's tough that

730
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: the like that that had to happen, I guess because

731
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: it didn't. And it just feels like it may be

732
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: like muddied that moment just a bit where on the

733
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: moment he's proposing to Serena, he also has to tell

734
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: her my ex just showed up like that. It felt

735
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: weird to me. Um, I was saddened my mind until

736
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: you just said it. But I actually did have an

737
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: act of my proposal. Good point. And uh, our relationship

738
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: was so much different and casual than what Joe and

739
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: Kendall had. Um, but it definitely, for a quite a

740
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: while was something that I thought too much of when

741
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: I thought of my engagement because it was muddied by drama. Yeah,

742
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: and that's and and that's what I'm saying. I guess

743
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: that's it is, Like it just was too bad that

744
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: it had to happen, because that is such a special

745
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: moment and it can be special and Joe and Serena

746
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: had worked through a lot to me make it special.

747
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: And I still think it was and as you know,

748
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: as somebody's been married for years now, over time, like

749
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: that proposal moment is still special to you, I'm sure,

750
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: and it's something that you, you you know, smile about when

751
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: you think about it. It's not so much of the

752
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: oh gosh, but you know he had to be there

753
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: as much as it was at the beginning. In time,

754
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: it will those thoughts will fade. Yeah, And I just

755
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: forgotten about it until just now. Yeah that's good. So

756
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: that makes that brings hope. But I'm just gonna say

757
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: that I thought it was a little bit a little

758
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: bit much. Yeah, Well, the proposal was super sweet. Uh,

759
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: I really, I really think that they feel so deeply

760
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: for each other and it's really cute and I'm rooting

761
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: for them. And it's crazy because I think, like at

762
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: the beginning of all this, I was just like, I

763
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: can't ever imagine Joe with anyone other than Kendall, and

764
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to be sad to see him with somebody else.

765
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: But like, I think they're gonna make them so so happy,

766
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: So I got a root for love. Yeah. And as

767
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: we talked about age difference there with Marie and Kenny,

768
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: I mean there's a big age difference with Joe and Serena. Um,

769
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem to be a part of their you know,

770
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: their issues. Like it feels like they both have like

771
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: fully accepted it, encouraged it, and they're moving forward with it.

772
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: Was that super pumped for them. Um, very excited. Hey, Ashley,

773
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: before we break down the final pieces of this episode,

774
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: let's take one break here when we come back with

775
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: almost soon as podcast. All right, Ashley, as we come back,

776
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, we do, uh really celebrate all these couples,

777
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: especially Marissa and Riley who have captured our hearts. In fact,

778
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: actually I was trying to remember and you can feel

779
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: me in who was Marissa. Oh it was Connor that

780
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: she was with, and Riley came down. Remember doesn't that

781
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: feel so long ago? It feels so long ago? And

782
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: I remember we were both like, oh, that's sad that

783
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: Connor you know, and Marissa are dumb because it felt

784
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: like there was something good there. But this relationship from

785
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: the beginning, from the moment they sat down at that

786
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: date with Lance Bass, has just been something almost magical.

787
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: I would say, Um, it feels like they've they've had

788
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: their communication issues. It feel was like, you know, Riley

789
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: doesn't exactly open up as much as Marissa would like,

790
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's been such a fun

791
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: relationship to watch, and I'm so glad that it ended

792
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: in this way because I was hoping we could see

793
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: their love story kind of come to this point. Really

794
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: when they first met, I thought it could happen. You

795
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: thought it could happen, and it did. You know, It's

796
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: so sweet. My favorite part about their relationship that was

797
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: highlighted in this episode was that they had that conversation

798
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: about Sunday morning, his dream about Sunday morning and how

799
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: he imagined her as that wife in that image that

800
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: he's had for like over a decade, and then he

801
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: kind of came full circle with it. And I think

802
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: it wasn't the proposal that he said, like, I'm halfway

803
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: to to that Sunday morning picture being complete. It's yeah,

804
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: it's just beautiful. And so their engagement or the proposal

805
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: was awesome. We talked about, you know, um, how beautiful

806
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: she still looked. It's it's amazing that she could still

807
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: look as realty as she did. Um was sweat dripping

808
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: down her face. How good their chemistry is, and super

809
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: thankful for them. Well, Uh, Ashley, as we close this

810
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: season of Paradise, we did get and you mentioned it

811
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: some some just sneak peeks into the lives of the

812
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: contestants that are no longer on the beach and did

813
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: not get proposed to, it said. Uh, Noah and Abigail

814
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: are talking again. Beck and Thomas started dating after the show.

815
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: Brennan Piper are taking things slow. Um, but we now

816
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: know that Brendan Piper have broken up. And yes, Beck

817
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: and Thomas it did sit there in love, which is

818
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: really awesome to see. Just wild. I did not know

819
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: this until I saw that, and that it's so exciting.

820
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: Have you talked Beck at all about this? I have

821
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: not talked to her about Thomas at all, mostly because

822
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how to navigate this with friends on

823
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah yeah, when when like you don't know

824
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: whether or not to talk about Yeah yeah, it's like,

825
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to push them into a

826
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: place where they have to talk about stuff. Um and

827
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: so oh, I just didn't ever bring it up as

828
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: we talked through life and was to catch up as friends. Um,

829
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: but I'm super happy for her and I hope that

830
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: relationship is flourishing. We saw a new side of Thomas.

831
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: I do think you know, as he said earlier in

832
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: the season, Paradise is a place for redemption. I do

833
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: think he got a lot of his redemption story and

834
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: I think it was authentic. I think it was real.

835
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: I hope we see that. And Becca is a friend

836
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: of mine. So if not, you better believe that. If

837
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: if he if he turns on this, this podcast is

838
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: not going to be a friendly place to Thomas. What

839
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: about his crying. We didn't talk about his crying. Did

840
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: you believe it? I believed it, but like there were

841
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: no water, there was no water coming from his eyes.

842
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 1: It was it was a little bit. It was hard

843
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: to see. I mean, I don't know. It was hard

844
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,959
Speaker 1: to watch. I don't know why. But here's the thing.

845
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: Becca was there for it. So here's how I how

846
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: I do now. Becca was there for it. I trust Becca. Um,

847
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: and now they're back together. So she had to believe that,

848
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: like that was a real Like at some point she

849
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: had to see No, almost really did show a lot

850
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: of emotion towards me, and that's untrusting here is like, yeah,

851
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: that was weird. Um, I don't know if they were

852
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: real or not. There was no tears, but there was

853
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: a lot of like emotion, and she's obviously yeah, and

854
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: she's obviously worked through that, and so I'm like, all right,

855
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: be it for the doubt, I'll believe it. Well, yeah,

856
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: Brendan and Piper, it said, are taking things slow, but

857
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: we know publicly they have now split up. Natasha has

858
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: a lot of followers on Instagram. That's true a moment.

859
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: Kenny and Maury's love is inseparable and always eat tacos.

860
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: That's just weird. Marissa and Riley have lived Riley's dream

861
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: and are madly in love. And Serena and Joe are

862
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: happily engaged, and she is happy to become the future

863
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: grocer's wife. Was what updates we got? We got really

864
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: great relationships from the show. We will follow up on

865
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 1: all these relationships here in the next couple of weeks

866
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: as they kind of we start to see what happened

867
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: after Paradise. But that's what we got out the end

868
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: of the episode. Uh with that, Hey, Ash, this is

869
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: another season of Bachelor in Paradise, which is super cool.

870
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna be right back with bachelor headlines. But he

871
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: congrats another season. Congrats to everybody who lived Happily ever

872
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: after and and um, I'm gonna miss getting those screeners

873
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: in my inbox. That's right. Well, hey, we don't have

874
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: very long until um Michelle Young's Bachelor at season begins.

875
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: Her bachelors have been announced and very soon, I think,

876
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: on next next week's episode, we're gonna break them all

877
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: down for you right here at the Almost Famous Podcast.

878
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: So we don't have too long of a break, Um,

879
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks here, but that's okay, we're

880
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: gonna fill it in with some some incredible headlines and

881
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: breaking down Michelle's men. So Ashley, let's come back with

882
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: bachelor headlines as a few of them this week that

883
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about. Alright. Actually, first

884
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: headline this week is a big one. Has been all

885
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: over the place, big news networks, all over Yahoo, everywhere

886
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: you turn on social media. The headline is this. It's

887
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: according to US Weekly. It says, why is Abigail being

888
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: dragged into Dale Moss and Claire Crawley split? Oh okay,

889
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: so yeah, this is dramatic. Claire, when updating fans on

890
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: her life and alluding to the split on Instagram last week,

891
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: she tagged Abigail for a short while in the picture,

892
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 1: which made sleuths go wild, and a gossip Instagram account

893
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: called do Move Uh share a tip that Abigail had

894
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: hooked up with Dale long before Paradise began, and that

895
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: she said she was under the impression when they did

896
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: hook up, Abigail was under the impression that he and

897
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: Claire weren't serious anymore. Now there's no if. We don't

898
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: really know whether or not this was whaal Claire and

899
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: Dale were on that break, because we know that they

900
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: did take a couple of month break. But this insider

901
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: claims that Claire found out about this alleged hook up

902
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: from Internet rumors that like, you know, the week of

903
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: the breakup, and tagged Abigail in the photo to show

904
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: everyone that she knew what happened. Abigail later untagged herself

905
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: in the picture. However, a second insider close to the

906
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: situation claims that Dale was never romantically involved with Abigail.

907
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: They apparently met once at a flag football game in

908
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: New York that a bunch of bachelor people attended. Everybody

909
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: went to a bar after they did not sleep together.

910
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: He has never cheated on Dale. They never even kissed

911
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: and that Dale is simply just friends with Abigail. Now,

912
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know like how much in my

913
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: own opinion to put into this. But I don't really

914
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: believe that's that second quote, because there had to have

915
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: been something for Claire to get this annoyed to tag Abigail.

916
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: That being said, it could have simply been a kiss

917
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: while they were on an official break, you know what

918
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, I hope you know you you. I

919
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: don't even know if it's the right thing to do

920
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: to tag somebody. I don't. I don't know, Like I

921
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: don't know it's it's like not. I mean, I don't know.

922
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: In the heat of anger, in the heat of anger,

923
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: I could see where it happens. I don't think it's

924
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: probably something that um was the right thing to do,

925
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: because I do think it starts rumors and assumptions being

926
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: spread around, which is something that we can't do here.

927
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: But I just don't think, Yeah, there's something up with

928
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: the tagging Abigael on that post, Like why would you

929
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: do that? I mean, that's that's the question here, is

930
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: what's going on. I mean, even here, Noah comes out

931
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: on his Instagram in relation to this these rumors and said,

932
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: there's a lot of interesting stuff swirling around. Um, it

933
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: must be spooky season, he says, So like, I just

934
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: feel like this could have been like it almost was

935
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: like a fire starter, you know, I don't I don't know.

936
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what it meant. Nobody really does at

937
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: this point and what's true. It just felt like, um,

938
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: it just started a lot of people assuming things, which

939
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: isn't healthy. Yeah, and sometimes you can assume even worse

940
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: than what actually happened. Who knows, you know, who knows,

941
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: But it's a big story. Claire and Dale split again,

942
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: and it feels like they're both doing their own thing,

943
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: and you know, the rumors are spreading now, people are

944
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: assuming things. Uh, but that relationship is over. We'll keep

945
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: up with it. I mean, I don't know how many

946
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: more times to talk about it, though, you know. I mean,

947
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: it's like this has already happened once. This one feels

948
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: messy again. Claire came out and said she's pretty down

949
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: and she's trying to stay positive in the midst of

950
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: all of this. Well, I feel so bad because in

951
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 1: the midst of this, her mom is now in hospice care.

952
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: So stuff I'm really thinking about her in that situation.

953
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: It's really hard. I mean, it's just it's just a

954
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: hard thing to do that. So I was like, how

955
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: many more times do we want to talk about this

956
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: relationship in the breakup and now start to focus on like, hey,

957
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: how do we come around around Claire and support her

958
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: as her mom is sick and that is um a

959
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: big deal and so fans maybe, um, you know, sometimes um,

960
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 1: just coming around to somebody in their moments of pain

961
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: is the best thing. So maybe we just need to

962
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: come out and say, hey, Claire, I don't know what

963
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: happened with you and Dale. I don't think it was

964
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: probably a great thing. I don't think it probably like

965
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: ended peacefully. But right now you're dealing with a lot,

966
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: so let's support you. I don't know. Probably the best thing. Well,

967
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise is Brendan and Piper split after Natasha

968
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: Parker drama. We mentioned that a little bit ago, but

969
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: that is official this according to People magazine. Yep, yep.

970
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: We actually don't have a quote from either Brendan or

971
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: Piper on this, but we do have a quote from

972
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: Natasha who says, sometimes we get ourselves, get our heartbroken.

973
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 1: Sometimes you cry about Sometimes we blame ourselves. Sometimes it's

974
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 1: easier to put up walls and give up on love.

975
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: But what I've learned is that one's capacity to love, trust,

976
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: and show vulnerability and be good to others as a

977
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: reflection of self. When you disregard, you take um, and

978
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: when others disregard, you take advantage, mislead and too selfishness.

979
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: That is a reflection of who they are. So, you know,

980
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: Natasha is probably pretty satisfied to hear about the headline

981
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: that they are They're done tough, tough stuff. Well, this

982
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: is an interesting headline because we're wondering here on the podcast,

983
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 1: a lot of you listeners are wondering as well. Will's

984
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: Adams explains how producers found out about Ivan and Alexa's

985
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: hotel hook up. This according to Cosmo. Yeah, okay, so

986
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: this is a really interesting greed for me. He said

987
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: there was a phone in the room, or producer's phone,

988
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: and it was just there. It was the first thing

989
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: on this you know, that's this is what I Evan said,

990
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: And that was the first thing on the screen. He'd said.

991
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: He didn't search for anything. It was a screenshot of

992
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: the room and numbers and stuff, and now Wells is

993
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 1: saying this, You're stuck there. You're not allowed to leave

994
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: the room. They take your keys away, which is all

995
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: you know, very norm and you, um, yeah, you're just

996
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: stuck there. So if you ever need anything, the producer

997
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: has to come and give it to you. So like,

998
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: you know, if you if you want some chips or

999
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: case of beer or whatever, like, they come and bring

1000
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: it to you. And he says, we're all friends, we're

1001
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: all working on the show together. Everyone knows each other.

1002
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: So I think what happened as a producer had everyone's

1003
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: room on their phone, because you have your mask on

1004
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: and your phone doesn't read you know, your face to

1005
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: your mask, it's like your face. And she had she

1006
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 1: she had turned off the face recognition because every time

1007
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: she didn't want to like have the do you know,

1008
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: like the password didn't work because your face discovered the

1009
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: type of thing on. Okay, so face reunition wasr nol um.

1010
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: And he says, so she left the phone in Ivan's room,

1011
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: and I think he went over and he was like, oh,

1012
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: here's a phone, realized um and opened it up. In

1013
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: the first thing was everyone's room number, and then he

1014
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: just bailed. So the very interesting thing is how did

1015
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: producers find out that Ivan went to Alexa's room? Well,

1016
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: a producer was next door to Alexa's room and she

1017
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: heard people talking late into the night, so that's one thing.

1018
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: And then Alexe is obviously quarantined away from everybody else,

1019
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: so that's another thing. She was like, who is this

1020
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: person talking to? What's going on? And then the real

1021
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: kicker here is that in the morning, she she had

1022
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 1: called to get a wake up call, like you called

1023
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: down to the front desk or something and said, can

1024
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: I get a wake up call? Four five am? And

1025
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: then when they found out about the scheduling of a

1026
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: wake up call, they're like, what is she waking up for?

1027
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: She's not going to set, And that apparently was what

1028
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 1: lad the producers into her room and being like, okay,

1029
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: so why did you get a wake up call? And

1030
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: apparently she broke down and spilled everything because she's just

1031
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: caught a lie. Holy moly, So you're telling me the

1032
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: producers find out what you do when you call the

1033
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: front desk, That's that's news to me. That Either it's

1034
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: like do they know what I ordered for rooms? I've

1035
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: always tried to like, you know, be cautious of my

1036
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: meal intake. But when I ordered doubled dinners, I never

1037
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: thought they would know. But I guess they do. Uh wow,

1038
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: sneaky sneaky people there. Um, And we wondered that, and

1039
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: so I guess, uh, you know, they probably mean unless

1040
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: she wasn't being smart and she called the handler and said, hey, handler,

1041
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: can you get can you wake me up at five am?

1042
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: It's a good point and not like the actual front ask,

1043
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that's wild. What a story. What's a

1044
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: good headline to end on? But the best headline to

1045
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: end on is this. I don't quite understand all of it,

1046
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: but I think this is a new thing in this generation.

1047
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: Bachelor's Ari lindyke reproposes to Lauren after two years of

1048
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 1: being married. This is on their YouTube channel. Um, yeah,

1049
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: I guess this is a thing. I mean maybe like

1050
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: you and I are on the same page. I'm not

1051
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: a fan of renewing vows. My mom is always using

1052
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: grinded me. If you're renewing your vows, why because did

1053
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: something happen? Was there a vow broken? Um? You know,

1054
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: like your vows are supposed to be forever. There's no

1055
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: day to renew them. But that is a totally different

1056
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: thing than what happens here. Um Ari re proposed to Lauren.

1057
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 1: I think that they're like last day in Hawaii because

1058
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: they were there for like a month at their new

1059
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: place and he got her a new ring it which

1060
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: is stunning. Um. But it's it's been something of a

1061
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: sort of trend for bachelor couples. Uh. I know Jojo

1062
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: and Jordan didn't did it. I know Jojo didn't love

1063
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: her ring and she loved getting a new one. Um

1064
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: And for them, I mean, I guess it. It makes

1065
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: sense for these bachelor couples, who I mean especially with

1066
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: Lauren and Ari right because they actually got engaged in

1067
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: a weird way because one he was engaged Tobecca broke

1068
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: up with her and then ended up proposing to Lauren

1069
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: on the reunion show. So like that's kind of a

1070
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: proposal I can see redoing. Yes, I mean there's I

1071
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: can't really like criticize them for this. All I'm saying

1072
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: is it was. The point is it was different with

1073
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: Jojo and Jordan because they weren't married yet. Like Ari

1074
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: and Lauren have been married for two years and now

1075
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: he's reproposing, So like, that's why I get confused if

1076
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: it was a vow, no matter how you feel about it,

1077
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: if you like it or not, Like I understand it right,

1078
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: Like I understand the renewal vows thing. It's just a

1079
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: good reminder you can maybe have a party around. It's

1080
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: a celebration. What I'm not mentally understanding is you've been

1081
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: married for two years, So how do you do you

1082
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: propose to your wife? You propose? Like, That's where I'm

1083
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: getting lost. Yeah, I mean if they liked it, and

1084
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: they that's their thing, then then whoa who. I'm so

1085
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: happy for them have gotten reproposed to. Very cute, but yeah,

1086
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: you're right. It's totally different than Jojoe and Jordan, who

1087
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: literally like thought of themselves as more like in a

1088
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: dating relationship maybe until like that actual in real life proposal,

1089
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: because so much life happened and so much relationship happened

1090
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: between the bachelorette and that second proposal. But it is

1091
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: kind of interesting thing to proposed to your wife. Yeah,

1092
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: I just don't know how that, Like, I don't know

1093
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: the Semantha semantics of that, but hey, not my place.

1094
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: The good news is they're still happily in love, which

1095
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: is super cool, um and something to definitely celebrate and

1096
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm pumped for that. I just read it and I

1097
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: was like, I don't get it anyways, happy for them,

1098
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: they're in love. Just got a new ring, you know,

1099
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: That's what it was. It was surprised you have a

1100
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: new ring, very exciting and after having three children, Lord

1101
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: knows she deserves it. That's right. Hey, you get it, girl.

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Speaker 1: That's a push present. Well, hey, that's all the headlines

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Speaker 1: we have for you today. It's been a great season

1104
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Speaker 1: of Paradise. Will be back next week breaking down the

1105
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Speaker 1: men coming on to Michelle's season of The Bachelorette. We're

1106
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: super excited for this season, super excited to keep talking

1107
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: to all of you. But that's the end of this

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Speaker 1: episode and the end of this season. And with that,

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Speaker 1: I've been been. I've been actually guy followed the Benn

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