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Speaker 1: Ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird. This
Speaker 1: is Strange Things j Warren. I am Joshua Pee Warren,
Speaker 1: and each week on this show, I'll be bringing you
Speaker 1: brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments
Speaker 1: you can do it home, and a lot more. On
Speaker 1: this edition of the show, Weird Movies to Watch near
Speaker 1: Christmas Now. Yes, this is a podcast that means you
Speaker 1: can listen to it any time of the year. But
Speaker 1: here's the reality. I am recording right now in the
Speaker 1: holiday season. Christmas is coming up soon, and you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes I just got to enjoy myself and talk about
Speaker 1: what's on my mind, and I figured that if you
Speaker 1: are like me, then as the Holidays are approaching, you
Speaker 1: have maybe a list of movies that you like to watch,
Speaker 1: perhaps with your family and friends, to help get you
Speaker 1: in the mood. And of course, traditionally here in the US,
Speaker 1: we have those films that just about everybody would consider
Speaker 1: a Christmas film. You know, obviously we have various versions
Speaker 1: of a Christmas Carol. You have movies like Home Alone
Speaker 1: or one of my favorites, Jingle All the Way. Maybe
Speaker 1: you watch shows like How the Grinch Stole Christmas. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's this list of very typical Christmas kind of stuff
Speaker 1: that you just see over and over every year. It's
Speaker 1: a staple. But they don't call me the Wizard of
Speaker 1: Weird for nothing. And that's because in addition to those things,
Speaker 1: I actually have some movies that I like to watch
Speaker 1: around this time of year that are not necessarily things
Speaker 1: that you would think of immediately when you think of Christmas.
Speaker 1: And yet most of these actually are Christmas movies that
Speaker 1: you just probably didn't realize for Christmas movies or forgot
Speaker 1: they were not necessarily you'll see what I mean. But
Speaker 1: let me just jump into it and tell you a
Speaker 1: little bit about some of these movies that I like
Speaker 1: to watch that you might not think of as a
Speaker 1: typical Christmas movie. The one that I want to start with,
Speaker 1: I want to feature one of my favorite movies, Grimlins. Yes,
Speaker 1: the great movie Grimlins that came out in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 1: And you know what, it's actually all based around Christmas
Speaker 1: because you know, the main character, well, let me put
Speaker 1: this way, the father in the movie, he's looking for
Speaker 1: a Christmas present for his son and he finds this
Speaker 1: little creature called a Magua, later named Gizmo, and Gizmo
Speaker 1: is the Christmas present, And so the whole movie has
Speaker 1: this Christian Christmas imagery in it. But I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people they don't necessarily think of it as
Speaker 1: a Christmas movie for two reasons. Number one, because the vision,
Speaker 1: the idea, the appearance of the Grimlins is just so
Speaker 1: unnerving and overpowering that it's hard to think of that
Speaker 1: with the warm, fuzzy Christmas vibe. But also, and this
Speaker 1: is particularly weird, the movie came out in June of
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four. I always think that's odd when these
Speaker 1: movies that have a strong seasonal component come out at
Speaker 1: a time which is totally out of place. I mean,
Speaker 1: that'd be like releasing some well, you know, like I
Speaker 1: see a lot of scary movies that are about Halloween
Speaker 1: that are released far away from October. But anyway, Grimlins,
Speaker 1: of course, this fantasy comedy horror film directed by Joe Dante,
Speaker 1: was actually written by Chris Columbus. And Chris Columbus is
Speaker 1: certainly a very famous man. He has played a role
Speaker 1: in either writing, producing, or directing a lot of famous movies.
Speaker 1: I mean he was involved with let's see, I think
Speaker 1: he wrote Goonies, is that right? Yeah, Goonies. He wrote that.
Speaker 1: This guy, I mean, Chris Columbus. He let's see, we're
Speaker 1: talking Home Alone Adventures in Babysitting Harry Potter movies. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Chris Columbus wrote Grimlins. And I was talking on a
Speaker 1: podcast earlier this year about what grimlins even are to
Speaker 1: begin with, and because they do mention this in the movie.
Speaker 1: Historically speaking, a grimlin is a mischievous fictional creature invented
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the twentieth century to originally explain
Speaker 1: malfunctions and aircraft, and later in other machinery processes and
Speaker 1: their operators. Depictions vary widely. Stories about them, references to
Speaker 1: them as the causes of inexplicable technical or even mental problems,
Speaker 1: and all that were especially popular during and after World
Speaker 1: War II. So there is a foundation there and culture
Speaker 1: for the Rimlins. But here's one thing that I found
Speaker 1: especially interesting, because I did not realize this until earlier
Speaker 1: in the year. I mentioned that the movie Grimlins, it
Speaker 1: starts out with the father figure in the movie. He's
Speaker 1: an inventor and he is walking at night through Chinatown
Speaker 1: and he's basically he's kind of narrating the story a
Speaker 1: little bit. And it's been a while since I've watched
Speaker 1: the movie, actually, but anyway, so he he's a big,
Speaker 1: bold man with a powerful voice, and he comes across
Speaker 1: extremely warmly on film, and he plays an extremely believable
Speaker 1: father figure. And then at the end of the movie,
Speaker 1: I mean, his voice comes back in as the narrator
Speaker 1: and he kind of wraps everything up. And I started wondering, well,
Speaker 1: you know, why haven't I seen more of that guy?
Speaker 1: And I started looking into him and that took me
Speaker 1: down this I don't know, kind of a rabbit hole
Speaker 1: that you might find interesting as well. The guy who
Speaker 1: played the father. I think his name was something like
Speaker 1: Ran Peltzer. In Grimlins was named Hoyt Axton, big guy
Speaker 1: and with a booming voice. And so I looked up
Speaker 1: hoy Axton, and I was surprised by what I found
Speaker 1: because he played roles in like smaller character roles in
Speaker 1: a lot of different movies, Like he was the father
Speaker 1: in a couple of scenes at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: classic movie The Black Stallion. But I wondered whether he
Speaker 1: didn't have more prominence in the film world. And it
Speaker 1: turns out that he was, more than anything interested in
Speaker 1: songwriting and singing. His mother was named may Buren Axton,
Speaker 1: and she was a songwriter who co wrote the song
Speaker 1: Heartbreak Hotel, which became a major hit for Elvis Presley.
Speaker 1: And so Hoyit Axton, the man who was the father
Speaker 1: in Grimlins, for a large part of his life he
Speaker 1: was following in his mother's footsteps. In fact, he started
Speaker 1: writing songs. Some of his own songs were also later
Speaker 1: recorded by Elvis Presley. And if you are wondering if
Speaker 1: you've ever heard any of Hoit Axton songs, get a
Speaker 1: load of this. Yes. The man who played the father
Speaker 1: and Grimlins wrote the song Joy to the World, which
Speaker 1: you might know that better as Jeremiah was a Bullfrog
Speaker 1: was a good friend of mine. Remember that one, Joy
Speaker 1: to the World, All the boys and girls Now. He
Speaker 1: wrote that song, which was recorded by Three Dog Night
Speaker 1: became a big hit for them. He also wrote the
Speaker 1: song never been to Spain.
Speaker 3: Well, I've never been to Spain, but I kind of
Speaker 3: like the music. Say, the ladies are insane there and
Speaker 3: they sure know how to use it.
Speaker 1: This guy who was doing this acting was also a there,
Speaker 1: traveling the country constantly performing an amazing talent. And it's
Speaker 1: just it's funny because you know, I watched Griblins when
Speaker 1: it came out in the movie theater in nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 1: and it took me until till this year, all these
Speaker 1: years later, to realize that, you know, who this guy was,
Speaker 1: did such a great job, and what an interesting life
Speaker 1: he had. As a matter of fact, he was. He
Speaker 1: had a very active personal life. He was married four times.
Speaker 1: His first three marriages ended in divorce. He had five children.
Speaker 1: He struggled with cocaine addiction and talked about some of
Speaker 1: that in his in his work, in his songs and
Speaker 1: let's see here he was born in nineteen thirty eight
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma. As a matter of fact, there's a line
Speaker 1: in that song never been to Spain where he says,
Speaker 1: I've never been to Heaven, but I've been to oklahom Well, anyway,
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety five, he had a stroke. He never
Speaker 1: fully recovered, had to use a wheelchair, and he died
Speaker 1: age sixty one at his home in Victor, Montana, after
Speaker 1: suffering two heart attacks in two weeks. It's just interesting
Speaker 1: trivia about the guy who was the Dad and grim Ones.
Speaker 1: But when we come back, Okay, let's move on to
Speaker 1: some other movies that you might not think of as
Speaker 1: a Christmas movie, but I kind of do. How about
Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick? Can you guess which one it is? Of course,
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Speaker 1: Giatato Zume. One of the greatest filmmakers of all time,
Speaker 1: certainly one of my favorites, was Stanley Kubrick. He died
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine at age seventy, And of course
Speaker 1: he is famous for so many classic films a two
Speaker 1: thousand and one of Space Odyssey. You know everybody knows.
Speaker 1: Drink your favorite juice and watch that movie. It'll transport
Speaker 1: you to another place. People are still trying to interpret
Speaker 1: the meanings in that movie. A clockwork Orange Barry Lindon.
Speaker 1: If you've never seen that, you got to watch it
Speaker 1: Full Metal Jacket. But he also he directed The Shining,
Speaker 1: And I'll just say for a moment that The Shining
Speaker 1: is one of those movies that fits into this particularly
Speaker 1: odd category for me because The Shining almost feels like
Speaker 1: that it should be a Christmas movie, but it's not.
Speaker 1: And so it's I guess, you know, just because it's wintertime.
Speaker 1: I'm you're there in this wooded area there in the mountains,
Speaker 1: and there's there's a blizzard, and there's snow on the ground,
Speaker 1: and there's all the wintry elements are there, but just
Speaker 1: not Christmas. But that's also a good movie to watch.
Speaker 1: They capture something about that Christmas vibe. I'm going to
Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about that phenomenon in a minute,
Speaker 1: but also before I tell you about the particular movie
Speaker 1: that is a Christmas movie that I associate with Stanley Kubrick.
Speaker 1: Let me just take this opportunity to mention that a
Speaker 1: lot of people believe that Stanley Kubrick, being such a
Speaker 1: talented filmmaker ahead of his time, was involved with faking
Speaker 1: footage of the moon landing. And let me just address
Speaker 1: that because, as you may or may not know, one
Speaker 1: of my best friends was the late Jim Mars and
Speaker 1: I consider him to be the greatest historian of conspiracy theories. Ever.
Speaker 1: He was the world's greatest conspiracy theorist. And you know what,
Speaker 1: he and I don't even know how many times he
Speaker 1: and I talked about the ideas regarding every conspiracy you
Speaker 1: can imagine. So I've heard all the arguments for and
Speaker 1: against the moon landing and what was that nineteen sixty nine,
Speaker 1: And what I can tell you is that, Okay, I
Speaker 1: believe that we landed on the Moon, and I believe
Speaker 1: that Neil Armstrong was the first human being to step
Speaker 1: foot on the moon. However, I also know that after
Speaker 1: all of the time and energy and money that had
Speaker 1: been put into that project during the Cold War, if
Speaker 1: it failed, that would have been an enormous embarrassment at
Speaker 1: very least to the US government, and who knows just
Speaker 1: how far the repercussions would have gone, how bad they
Speaker 1: would have been at that time in history when people
Speaker 1: actually had to pay consequences for screwing up. And so
Speaker 1: I have no doubt that they may have had a
Speaker 1: contingency plan where they hired some great filmmakers to come
Speaker 1: in and produce some footage that looked like that they
Speaker 1: had made it to the Moon that would be presented
Speaker 1: to the public just in case the mission failed. That
Speaker 1: seems plausible to me. I know that that would have
Speaker 1: been a temporary bandage. I don't know how long that
Speaker 1: would have lasted, and so it would make perfect sense
Speaker 1: that you'd bring a guy like Stanley Kubrick in there
Speaker 1: to be a part of that project to see what
Speaker 1: could be done to a very least maximize the chances
Speaker 1: of capturing this footage on the Moon properly, while at
Speaker 1: the same time sort of simulating what it might look like.
Speaker 1: Nod wink wink. So I don't think that any of
Speaker 1: the Moon footage that we see in our historical context
Speaker 1: is fake. I really don't, but I have no doubt
Speaker 1: that there is some footage out there that was fake
Speaker 1: that would have been used in an emergency situation. There
Speaker 1: is a video that pops up from time to time
Speaker 1: on places like YouTube that came out years ago, where
Speaker 1: there's a guy who looks kind of like Stanley Kubrick
Speaker 1: sitting there admitting all of this. That video is a
Speaker 1: hoax video. That is an actor. So don't send that
Speaker 1: to me. I've seen that a million times. That's never happened.
Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick never sat down on camera and talked about
Speaker 1: the moonhoak stuff. But you know, some of his relatives,
Speaker 1: and I won't name any names, have suggestionuggested that he
Speaker 1: was involved in some activity with the government that may
Speaker 1: have been related to shooting footage that looked like it
Speaker 1: was on the Moonscape that wasn't. So, you know, and
Speaker 1: I know there have been movies that have addressed this subject,
Speaker 1: but movies you can't trust what you see in a movie.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you the reality of what I know,
Speaker 1: which isn't much. I think that he may have been
Speaker 1: involved with some of that, but I don't I don't
Speaker 1: think that the footage of the moon landing was fake.
Speaker 1: The footage that we see maybe someday. You know, there
Speaker 1: are all these politicians that are always saying we're going
Speaker 1: to release everything. Yeah, well maybe someday before we die,
Speaker 1: we'll get to see some of the footage that come
Speaker 1: out that they were going to use. Is like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, false footage. Begetting back to the point of
Speaker 1: this particular podcast. The last movie that Kubrick made, the
Speaker 1: movie that came out right before he died, is called
Speaker 1: Eyes Wide Shut, and it stars Tom Cruise Nicole Kidman,
Speaker 1: who were married at the time. It's an erotic, mystery,
Speaker 1: psychological drama. And one thing that is interesting about this
Speaker 1: movie is that Kubrick ultimately taps into all these legends
Speaker 1: and stories and tales that you've heard your whole life
Speaker 1: about some super wealthy elite echelon in this world, this
Speaker 1: cabal of people who are They get together and in
Speaker 1: these sort of secret underground society meetings and festivals, and
Speaker 1: they engage in all forms of debauchery and maybe there
Speaker 1: are satanic elements involved, maybe there is some form of
Speaker 1: can involved. I mean, we we've there's it's almost like
Speaker 1: a tulpa that exists, this idea that all of these powerful,
Speaker 1: wealthy people come together in secret and throw these big, twisted,
Speaker 1: dark parties and the last thing you want to do
Speaker 1: is dabble with that. And that is what happens in
Speaker 1: this movie Eyes White Shut. And of course you could
Speaker 1: say that this is an example of Kubrick exploiting that tulpa,
Speaker 1: or you could say that he was using the movie
Speaker 1: as a way to express some of the things that
Speaker 1: he had come across by being involved with some of
Speaker 1: this sort of globalism, that you know, this idea that
Speaker 1: we're trying to create this big deception for the world.
Speaker 1: I don't know which it is, and he wants it
Speaker 1: that way. And that's why Kubrick didn't like to talk
Speaker 1: a lot about the meaning behind his movies, because he
Speaker 1: realized that mystery was an important part of the storytelling process.
Speaker 1: But the movie starts out with Tom Cruise and his
Speaker 1: wife dressing to go off to a big, elaborate Christmas party,
Speaker 1: and so the whole movie takes place throughout Christmas, which
Speaker 1: also is kind of ironic because what you're dealing with
Speaker 1: here is a scenario that's basically again it's kind of
Speaker 1: a satanic core of the movie has sort of a
Speaker 1: satanic core theme, and so it makes sense that it
Speaker 1: will be taking place at Christmas time, so that you
Speaker 1: have this contrast between all the joy and the jolly
Speaker 1: Christmas elements in the background with the reality of the
Speaker 1: darkness in the middle. And I'm sure that Kubrick thought
Speaker 1: about all that stuff. So anyway, that is not one
Speaker 1: for the kiddies. By the way, that is definitely an
Speaker 1: R rated movie. I think there are some cuts out
Speaker 1: there that maybe even be on are rated. But eyes
Speaker 1: Wide Shut, if you're you know, if you're like me,
Speaker 1: that's one that you will have on your list of
Speaker 1: weird movies to watch near Christmas. And you know how
Speaker 1: I said that, like, The Shining is not it's not
Speaker 1: a Christmas movie, but it just kind of feels kind
Speaker 1: of like it should be. It's one of those movies
Speaker 1: that maybe you would want to watch around Christmas time. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't always watch The Shining around Christmas time. It
Speaker 1: is certainly one of my favorite horror movies. But one
Speaker 1: movie that I do like to watch around Christmas time
Speaker 1: that also isn't a Christmas movie is the movie Misery.
Speaker 1: And this is the nineteen ninety psychological heart thriller directed
Speaker 1: by Rob Reiner based on Stephen King's novel, and it's
Speaker 1: the story, of course, about the author. He finishes his
Speaker 1: book and the cabins by himself, and I guess he's
Speaker 1: in Colorado or something and he's driving through these snow
Speaker 1: slick mountain roads. His car goes off into a ravine
Speaker 1: and then this woman rescues him, and it's Kathy Bates
Speaker 1: who ends up. She's a nurse, and she says, I'm
Speaker 1: going to take care of you until you heal, and
Speaker 1: she keeps him basically then imprisoned at her house, saying,
Speaker 1: just so happens, I'm your number one fan. And then
Speaker 1: she starts sort of forcing him to write for her,
Speaker 1: and when she's not happy with how the writing's turning out,
Speaker 1: she starts torturing him. And okay, I hear the music.
Speaker 1: It's time for a break. When we come back, I'm
Speaker 1: going to tell you about some more movies that I
Speaker 1: like to watch around this time of year. But all
Speaker 1: the rest of them actually do have something to do
Speaker 1: directly with Halloween. I'm sorry, listen to me Christmas. I
Speaker 1: have too many themes in my head right now. They're
Speaker 1: all blending together around Christmas time. And then also I
Speaker 1: think I have a story I want to share with
Speaker 1: you if I have time about a new vampire discovery.
Speaker 1: This is real. I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're listening to
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeart Radio and
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Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, And this is the show where the
Speaker 1: unusual becomes usual. Yeah, it's funny how a movie like
Speaker 1: Misery doesn't have any real Christmas imagery in it. But
Speaker 1: it's in the it's in the mountains, it's snowy. I
Speaker 1: think there are some scenes with warm lighting, and it
Speaker 1: just seems like it should be a Christmas movie, but
Speaker 1: it's not. And so you can see when I talk
Speaker 1: about this theme, I'm not saying weird Christmas movies to watch.
Speaker 1: I'm saying weird movies to watch near Christmas. So it's
Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain that, but but I
Speaker 1: was thinking about this movie and how that at the
Speaker 1: end of the movie, as the credits are rolling, they
Speaker 1: play Liberaci singing one of his most famous songs. I'll
Speaker 1: be seeing you and.
Speaker 3: All the old familiar places to this hard of mine
Speaker 3: embraces all day through.
Speaker 1: I'm doing a lot of singing on this podcast. Sorry
Speaker 1: about that. And I bring that up because, oh, a
Speaker 1: little over a week ago, Lauren, my wife, and I
Speaker 1: living here in Las Vegas, finally made it over to
Speaker 1: a place called the Liberacchi Garage. Maybe it's Liberaci's garage,
Speaker 1: but it is. It's not too far from the strip,
Speaker 1: and it's this giant warehouse where they have a lot
Speaker 1: of famous Hollywood cars, but they have a whole section
Speaker 1: devoted to the collection of Liberaci, because you know, he
Speaker 1: would go all out with everything. At one point in
Speaker 1: his life, he was the highest paid entertainer in the world.
Speaker 1: And you know, Las Vegas was his home, a lot
Speaker 1: of properties around here, and he always had the fanciest rolls, royces,
Speaker 1: and he would have everything customized, have pianos put into cars,
Speaker 1: and like all that kind of stuff. And so you
Speaker 1: can go over there and for twenty bucks a person
Speaker 1: walk around and see all of his incredible vehicles. We
Speaker 1: took some pictures, so I'll have to see if I
Speaker 1: can remember to put some on my Instagram page. The
Speaker 1: Instagram page for this show is josh excuse me, Joshua P.
Speaker 1: Warren Podcast, and Lauren takes care of putting images on
Speaker 1: there from time to time. But that was cool. They
Speaker 1: have all kinds of props and artifacts there related to Liberacci. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can even go to Liberacci's house, his main mansion
Speaker 1: here and pay the owner, like a couple hundred bucks
Speaker 1: a person I can't remember for sure, and he'll take
Speaker 1: you around on a private tour. I planned to do
Speaker 1: that at some point. Okay, back to the topic at
Speaker 1: hand though. Another film, Now this is a Christmas movie. Well,
Speaker 1: let me let me put it this way. It has
Speaker 1: a significant Christmas scene in it. The Dead Zone nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty three American science fiction thriller film directed by David Cronenberg,
Speaker 1: also based on a novel by Stephen King. And this
Speaker 1: is one of my favorites. I especially have always loved
Speaker 1: the soundtrack. It's unforgettable and it's so you know. The
Speaker 1: Dead Zone is about this young man who gets in
Speaker 1: he's in love, he's about to get married, and he
Speaker 1: gets into this terrible car accident and he's in a
Speaker 1: coma for years and when he comes out of the
Speaker 1: a coma. His comes out of the coma, his lady
Speaker 1: has already married another man, which breaks his heart. He's
Speaker 1: also kind of physically crippled, and I mean he's just
Speaker 1: talked about down of the dump. But somehow he has
Speaker 1: gained this incredible psychic power where he is able to
Speaker 1: touch things and see visions of the past and the future,
Speaker 1: and that the main star of the well, the star
Speaker 1: of that movie is Christopher Walkin. There's a part of
Speaker 1: the movie UH in which I think it's Christmas time
Speaker 1: and there's there's some serial killer in the town and
Speaker 1: they and so the cops, like the sheriff goes to
Speaker 1: him to or the chief of police or somebody to
Speaker 1: see if he can help solve the crime. So that's
Speaker 1: the Christmas element there. But a couple of interesting things
Speaker 1: that this brings to mind, since I'm just kind of
Speaker 1: rambling about these movies. Number One, it was also Christopher
Speaker 1: Walkin who starred in the nineteen eighty nine movie Communion UH,
Speaker 1: in which he was basically playing Whitley Strieber. And I
Speaker 1: heard wit Streeber on an interview a while back say
Speaker 1: that he felt that in the beginning the filmmakers were
Speaker 1: not taking that project, that movie con Union seriously enough,
Speaker 1: and he had to like stay on top of them
Speaker 1: and and help help rein them in to how seriously
Speaker 1: he took this. You know, I I met I met
Speaker 1: him in part one one time, Whitley Streeber and I
Speaker 1: were working on a TV show together, and so I
Speaker 1: met him there, and uh, and I've heard lots of
Speaker 1: stories about him in general, and it's funny because you know,
Speaker 1: I've interviewed him also on some of my other shows
Speaker 1: in the past. It's funny how like in the beginning
Speaker 1: he was just absolutely horrified by what these these beings
Speaker 1: were doing to him, and now all these years later,
Speaker 1: he says that he's just accepted it, and he kind
Speaker 1: of embraces them as almost like friends that he is
Speaker 1: in touch with on a daily basis. These aliens a
Speaker 1: very odd evolution of his relationship with these beings that
Speaker 1: he said at one time violated him so severely. So, yes,
Speaker 1: the Dead Zone is a good one. And another thing
Speaker 1: about the Dead Zone, it brings up a very interesting
Speaker 1: question about predeterminism, freedom and predeterminism and fate and free
Speaker 1: will and all these things, because basically, the guy the
Speaker 1: Christopher Walkins character. He uses his psychic power to see
Speaker 1: that this politician is about to succeed, and he has
Speaker 1: to determine and this politician is gonna do evil things,
Speaker 1: and so he has to determine how he can prevent
Speaker 1: that from happening. Should he prevent it from happening. It
Speaker 1: brings up a lot of complex philosophical conundrums and paradoxes
Speaker 1: as well. So the Dead Zone is definitely one that
Speaker 1: should be on anybody's list, but it's on my Christmas list. Next,
Speaker 1: another one of my favorite movies, The Mothman Prophecies, of course,
Speaker 1: based on the classic book by Jean Keel. This is
Speaker 1: a two thousand and two American supernatural horror mystery film
Speaker 1: directed by Mark Pellington, stars Richard Gere and Laura Lenny.
Speaker 1: I talk a lot about this movie and the book.
Speaker 1: I find a lot of references for this in the
Speaker 1: subject matter that I cover on this podcast called Strange Things.
Speaker 1: And you know, the real tragedy behind this is that,
Speaker 1: you know, all these people around Point Pleasant, West Virginia
Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties are seeing the Mothman flying around,
Speaker 1: as well as a plethora of other bizarre things. And
Speaker 1: it all seems to very ominously culminate on this up
Speaker 1: to this disaster that occurred. And this is true. I mean,
Speaker 1: the root elements of this story are absolutely true. People
Speaker 1: were seeing all of this bizarre stuff around Point Pleasant
Speaker 1: and then at Christmas time on December fifteenth of nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty seven, all these people who had been out Christmas
Speaker 1: shopping and such were lined up on the Silver Bridge
Speaker 1: between West Virginia and Ohio, and the bridge collapsed. I
Speaker 1: believe it's still considered the largest bridge disaster in the
Speaker 1: history of the United States. Forty Six people died, some
Speaker 1: were never found, and it was just it's just it's
Speaker 1: shocking to look back in retrospect and all the weird
Speaker 1: things that people were seeing there that led up to
Speaker 1: this horrific tragedy. It's one of the greatest and most
Speaker 1: terrible stories in all of human history, and it's also
Speaker 1: incredibly thought provoking. But again, it's one of those things
Speaker 1: where it kind of figures that, like, there's this contrast
Speaker 1: between the joy of the holiday season and people going
Speaker 1: out and trying to have fun, and then it all
Speaker 1: clashing with this terrible darkness, and it ultimately end up
Speaker 1: with like Christmas Presents Floating down the Ohio River. The
Speaker 1: next movie I want to point out here Batman Returns,
Speaker 1: just because I guess you know. I love Tim Burton's
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine Batman with of course Michael Keaton and
Speaker 1: Jack Nicholson. But the sequel that was done also by
Speaker 1: Tim Burton in nineteen ninety two was Batman Returns that
Speaker 1: had Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman and Danny DeVito as the Penguin.
Speaker 1: And I won't spend too much time on that because
Speaker 1: I thought that it wasn't that great of a movie,
Speaker 1: but it was just it was kind of a fun
Speaker 1: one to watch if he were into the nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: nine Batman. And it is a Christmas movie, believed or not,
Speaker 1: the whole story of Batman Returns and a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't really remember that part takes place there at Christmas.
Speaker 1: That's also a movie where I like at the beginning
Speaker 1: Paul Rubins was. He played a very small role and
Speaker 1: that was one of the first times I saw him
Speaker 1: have a comeback after his fall from Grace. If you
Speaker 1: guys are old enough to remember what happened to Peewee
Speaker 1: for a little while there, he got caught in the
Speaker 1: theater doing some nasty things, and so then he had
Speaker 1: to sort of like reinvent himself as just the actor
Speaker 1: Paul Rubins. When we come back from this break, because
Speaker 1: we're shortly we're coming up on short on time here,
Speaker 1: Like I say, I have a real vampire story I
Speaker 1: want to share with you, But I also before I
Speaker 1: get to that, I have one more weird It's not
Speaker 1: a this is not a weird movie, but it's something
Speaker 1: that I do tend to watch every single year at
Speaker 1: Christmas time. It's an episode from the original Tells from
Speaker 1: the Crypt that aired on HBO Season one, episode two
Speaker 1: back in nineteen eighty nine. There's that eighty nine again.
Speaker 1: It's called All through the House. Some of you probably
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. If not, well, I'll explain
Speaker 1: everything shortly and then well, I might have an email
Speaker 1: I want to read to you. Also. I'm Joshua P. Warren.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
Speaker 1: to Coast AMN Paranormal podcast Network, and I will be
Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this
Speaker 1: edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Speaker 1: Coast am Paranormal podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren,
Speaker 1: And in that episode of Tells from the Crypt I
Speaker 1: mean the original HBO series, season one, episode to nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty nine called All Through the House. It's got this
Speaker 1: great story, which of course was based upon the Telles
Speaker 1: from the Crypts comics and Vault of Horror and all that.
Speaker 1: I love all those comics. I have a collection. It's
Speaker 1: about this woman who at the very beginning, she it's
Speaker 1: like Christmas Eve or something, and she lives in a
Speaker 1: pretty posh house and she murders her husband right at
Speaker 1: the beginning, and so she is trying to get rid
Speaker 1: of the body and going through that process and just
Speaker 1: kind of like burying him in the backyard kind of thing.
Speaker 1: It turns out, at the same time, nearby, this insane
Speaker 1: killer has escaped from some prison and has stolen a
Speaker 1: Santa Claus outfit, and he is on the loose in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, and just so happens to come to her house.
Speaker 1: And of course, ordinarily she would call the cops, but
Speaker 1: she can't call the cops because she's in this compromising
Speaker 1: position because she has just killed her husband. So now
Speaker 1: she has to figure out how to deal with this
Speaker 1: madman with an axe and a Santa costume running around
Speaker 1: her house trying to kill her and her child. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a beautiful Christmas story. And one thing
Speaker 1: that is also quite interesting about it is probably one
Speaker 1: reason that's I it's so good is because it was
Speaker 1: directed by Robert Zamechas, and uh, you know Robert Robert
Speaker 1: Zemeckis is one of the most successful directors of all time.
Speaker 1: I mean he directed Back to the Future, The Forrest,
Speaker 1: cup Castaway, one of my favorites of Bale Wolf, and
Speaker 1: Christmas movie The Polar Express. So yeah, that's that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons. I'm sure this was a good one.
Speaker 1: So I like to watch that episode of Tells from
Speaker 1: the cript. So again, I'm a little bit twisted though,
Speaker 1: so maybe none of these will work for you. So
Speaker 1: that is what I wanted to share with you on
Speaker 1: this show about weird movies to watch near Christmas. And
Speaker 1: now for something completely different, I've also been meaning to
Speaker 1: share this with you for a while. Well, this is
Speaker 1: from CBS News came out a little earlier, I think
Speaker 1: last month, says archaeologist reconstruct face a four hundred year
Speaker 1: old vampire buried with iron sickle across her neck. Two
Speaker 1: years ago archaeologist in Poland, let's see this is by
Speaker 1: Steph Stephen Smith, by the way, is the writer here.
Speaker 1: Two years ago archaeologist in Poland made a discovery at
Speaker 1: a gravesite that can only describe as astonishing, the remains
Speaker 1: of a woman with a sickle around her neck and
Speaker 1: a triangular padlock on her foot. She was found in
Speaker 1: an unmarked cemetery of this village called Pien. Four hundred
Speaker 1: year old woman was thought to be deemed a vampire,
Speaker 1: and those who buried her placed the sickle the farming
Speaker 1: tool across her throat. According to ancient beliefs, this was
Speaker 1: to prevent her from returning from the dead. There's a
Speaker 1: research team from Nicholas Copernicus University that made the discovery
Speaker 1: and they've been working since with this Swedish archaeologist using DNA,
Speaker 1: three D printing and clay to reconstruct the face of
Speaker 1: this woman. And she was called Zosia by locals z
Speaker 1: O s I a Zosia, which is interesting because my
Speaker 1: friend Darren Evans, he always talks about Zozo and how
Speaker 1: that zo is associated with uncomfortable feelings. I think he
Speaker 1: says that Z in general has always been considered kind
Speaker 1: of ad a bad consonant, because when you die and
Speaker 1: your lips start to draw back as a corpse, they
Speaker 1: sort of form the letters Z, like how they would
Speaker 1: look at your saying Z. That's what he said, but
Speaker 1: says here the signist say, it's really ironic. Those people
Speaker 1: burying her, they did everything they can could in order
Speaker 1: to prevent her from coming back from the dead. We've
Speaker 1: done everything we can in order to bring her back
Speaker 1: to life. They say that she was only buried with
Speaker 1: the padlock, but when they continued experiencing some bad luck,
Speaker 1: they decided to take further action. So they opened the grave,
Speaker 1: found the padlock now open, and in panic, placed the
Speaker 1: sharp blade of a sickle over her neck. If she
Speaker 1: would arise, it would just cut her head right off.
Speaker 1: And if this were a TV show, I would be
Speaker 1: showing you her face right now, But since it is
Speaker 1: not a TV show, you have to go online and
Speaker 1: look it up for yourself. If you follow me on
Speaker 1: social media, then maybe I'll remember to post a link
Speaker 1: to this for you somewhere on my Twitter. Just you know,
Speaker 1: you can look me up Joshua Pee Warren, or on
Speaker 1: Facebook Joshua Pee Warren or Joshua Pee Warren Podcast, or
Speaker 1: on Instagram Joshua pe w I mean it's easy to
Speaker 1: find me. Sometimes I hear from people who say I've
Speaker 1: been trying to get in touch with you for a year.
Speaker 1: I'm the easiest guy in the world to get in
Speaker 1: touch with. But I get hundreds of emails per day,
Speaker 1: or hundreds of messages from one place for another, sometimes
Speaker 1: over a thousand, depending on what I'm up to. It's
Speaker 1: impossible for me to read them all. So please don't
Speaker 1: be offended if I don't directly answer you, but I
Speaker 1: do my best to read them all. But here's what
Speaker 1: you can do. If you want to see the reconstructed
Speaker 1: face of this lady, just do a search for vampire
Speaker 1: buried with sickle across her neck. I'm sure it'll come
Speaker 1: up again. I'm reading this version from CBS, and there
Speaker 1: she is. I'm looking right at her, and she looks
Speaker 1: like the absolute central casting of a Middle Ages peasant girl.
Speaker 1: That's what she looks like. She has kind of a
Speaker 1: broad face that looks like she's seen like a distant stare.
Speaker 1: She looks like she's seen a lot of crap in
Speaker 1: her life. She has light brown hair, little kind of
Speaker 1: bonnet thing, and she just looks very plain, very plain.
Speaker 1: So you never know. But you know when you watch
Speaker 1: these true crime shows now and they show these people
Speaker 1: who do these horrific things. Well, now we have scientists
Speaker 1: that come in and they try to psychoanalyze everything. But
Speaker 1: I'm sure back in those days you were just like,
Speaker 1: this is a demon possessed person, this is a vampire,
Speaker 1: this is a were wolf. Like it was very real
Speaker 1: to them. They didn't take time to break down the
Speaker 1: psychology of everything. Why don't we go to an interesting
Speaker 1: listener email before we run out of time. This comes
Speaker 1: to me from Stephen and Titusville, Florida, he says, Joshua,
Speaker 1: given your experience investigating Tulpa's, I was wondering if you
Speaker 1: had any thoughts on the rise of AI friendship apps
Speaker 1: and the possibility that they could be creating Tulpa's. Personally,
Speaker 1: I think it could, just like with slender Man, but
Speaker 1: since there would only be one person energizing it, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily be accidental or it would take longer. Thank
Speaker 1: you for your time, if you want to use this
Speaker 1: on your show you can well, Stephen, that is an
Speaker 1: excellent question. Thank you for sending it to me, and
Speaker 1: also thank you for specifying it that it's okay for
Speaker 1: me to talk about it on the show. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: And anytime any of you write me something, if you
Speaker 1: would remember to include that, that would be great. And
Speaker 1: I don't have to use your real name. I can
Speaker 1: use whatever name you want, or I can just say
Speaker 1: it's anonymous. So Stephen, the question you asked is do
Speaker 1: you have any thoughts? Well, yes, I believe that tulpa's.
Speaker 1: Let me put it this way. I believe that AI
Speaker 1: is a tulpa. And when I say a tulpa, it
Speaker 1: might just be one big, homogenized tulpa. If not, I
Speaker 1: could say that A I are tulpa's I guess. But
Speaker 1: let me also point out that when we traditionally talk
Speaker 1: about tulpa's, we have been thinking about them as organic
Speaker 1: things that just come right from the brain of a
Speaker 1: person or the brains of persons and externalize in some way.
Speaker 1: But this is what happens when computer scientists decide to
Speaker 1: do the same thing. They are creating a technical tulpa.
Speaker 1: That's what AI is, and it's going to reflect the
Speaker 1: values of those creators, and that is one reason that
Speaker 1: I am not very happy with the direction that AI
Speaker 1: is going to go, because it's I don't think the
Speaker 1: types of people who are creating it necessarily have thought
Speaker 1: through all the options here. And so yes, any type
Speaker 1: of relationship with AI is a relationship with the tulpa,
Speaker 1: and all it can do is multiply and breed more tulpa's.
Speaker 1: And as a side note, I saw a video where
Speaker 1: some robot went into a room with a bunch of
Speaker 1: other robots the other day and got them all to
Speaker 1: follow him out the door. So they're already building their
Speaker 1: robot army. I'm afraid. Okay, that's it. The clock has
Speaker 1: got us. It's time to relax. Let's create a positive
Speaker 1: Tulpa for all of us. Listen to the good Fortune tongue.
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