1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 10 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: Ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird. This 11 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: is Strange Things j Warren. I am Joshua Pee Warren, 12 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: and each week on this show, I'll be bringing you 13 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments 14 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: you can do it home, and a lot more. On 15 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: this edition of the show, Weird Movies to Watch near 16 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: Christmas Now. Yes, this is a podcast that means you 17 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: can listen to it any time of the year. But 18 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: here's the reality. I am recording right now in the 19 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: holiday season. Christmas is coming up soon, and you know, 20 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: sometimes I just got to enjoy myself and talk about 21 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: what's on my mind, and I figured that if you 22 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: are like me, then as the Holidays are approaching, you 23 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: have maybe a list of movies that you like to watch, 24 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: perhaps with your family and friends, to help get you 25 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: in the mood. And of course, traditionally here in the US, 26 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: we have those films that just about everybody would consider 27 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: a Christmas film. You know, obviously we have various versions 28 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: of a Christmas Carol. You have movies like Home Alone 29 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: or one of my favorites, Jingle All the Way. Maybe 30 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: you watch shows like How the Grinch Stole Christmas. I mean, 31 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: there's this list of very typical Christmas kind of stuff 32 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: that you just see over and over every year. It's 33 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: a staple. But they don't call me the Wizard of 34 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: Weird for nothing. And that's because in addition to those things, 35 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: I actually have some movies that I like to watch 36 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: around this time of year that are not necessarily things 37 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: that you would think of immediately when you think of Christmas. 38 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: And yet most of these actually are Christmas movies that 39 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: you just probably didn't realize for Christmas movies or forgot 40 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: they were not necessarily you'll see what I mean. But 41 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: let me just jump into it and tell you a 42 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: little bit about some of these movies that I like 43 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: to watch that you might not think of as a 44 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: typical Christmas movie. The one that I want to start with, 45 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: I want to feature one of my favorite movies, Grimlins. Yes, 46 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: the great movie Grimlins that came out in nineteen eighty four. 47 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: And you know what, it's actually all based around Christmas 48 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: because you know, the main character, well, let me put 49 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: this way, the father in the movie, he's looking for 50 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: a Christmas present for his son and he finds this 51 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: little creature called a Magua, later named Gizmo, and Gizmo 52 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: is the Christmas present, And so the whole movie has 53 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: this Christian Christmas imagery in it. But I think a 54 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: lot of people they don't necessarily think of it as 55 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: a Christmas movie for two reasons. Number one, because the vision, 56 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: the idea, the appearance of the Grimlins is just so 57 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: unnerving and overpowering that it's hard to think of that 58 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: with the warm, fuzzy Christmas vibe. But also, and this 59 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: is particularly weird, the movie came out in June of 60 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four. I always think that's odd when these 61 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: movies that have a strong seasonal component come out at 62 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: a time which is totally out of place. I mean, 63 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: that'd be like releasing some well, you know, like I 64 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: see a lot of scary movies that are about Halloween 65 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: that are released far away from October. But anyway, Grimlins, 66 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: of course, this fantasy comedy horror film directed by Joe Dante, 67 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: was actually written by Chris Columbus. And Chris Columbus is 68 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: certainly a very famous man. He has played a role 69 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 1: in either writing, producing, or directing a lot of famous movies. 70 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: I mean he was involved with let's see, I think 71 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: he wrote Goonies, is that right? Yeah, Goonies. He wrote that. 72 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: This guy, I mean, Chris Columbus. He let's see, we're 73 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: talking Home Alone Adventures in Babysitting Harry Potter movies. So yeah, 74 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: Chris Columbus wrote Grimlins. And I was talking on a 75 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: podcast earlier this year about what grimlins even are to 76 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: begin with, and because they do mention this in the movie. 77 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: Historically speaking, a grimlin is a mischievous fictional creature invented 78 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the twentieth century to originally explain 79 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: malfunctions and aircraft, and later in other machinery processes and 80 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: their operators. Depictions vary widely. Stories about them, references to 81 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: them as the causes of inexplicable technical or even mental problems, 82 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: and all that were especially popular during and after World 83 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: War II. So there is a foundation there and culture 84 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: for the Rimlins. But here's one thing that I found 85 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: especially interesting, because I did not realize this until earlier 86 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: in the year. I mentioned that the movie Grimlins, it 87 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: starts out with the father figure in the movie. He's 88 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: an inventor and he is walking at night through Chinatown 89 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: and he's basically he's kind of narrating the story a 90 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: little bit. And it's been a while since I've watched 91 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: the movie, actually, but anyway, so he he's a big, 92 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: bold man with a powerful voice, and he comes across 93 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: extremely warmly on film, and he plays an extremely believable 94 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 1: father figure. And then at the end of the movie, 95 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean, his voice comes back in as the narrator 96 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: and he kind of wraps everything up. And I started wondering, well, 97 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: you know, why haven't I seen more of that guy? 98 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: And I started looking into him and that took me 99 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: down this I don't know, kind of a rabbit hole 100 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: that you might find interesting as well. The guy who 101 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: played the father. I think his name was something like 102 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: Ran Peltzer. In Grimlins was named Hoyt Axton, big guy 103 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: and with a booming voice. And so I looked up 104 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: hoy Axton, and I was surprised by what I found 105 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: because he played roles in like smaller character roles in 106 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: a lot of different movies, Like he was the father 107 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: in a couple of scenes at the beginning of the 108 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: classic movie The Black Stallion. But I wondered whether he 109 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: didn't have more prominence in the film world. And it 110 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: turns out that he was, more than anything interested in 111 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:39,239 Speaker 1: songwriting and singing. His mother was named may Buren Axton, 112 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: and she was a songwriter who co wrote the song 113 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: Heartbreak Hotel, which became a major hit for Elvis Presley. 114 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: And so Hoyit Axton, the man who was the father 115 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: in Grimlins, for a large part of his life he 116 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: was following in his mother's footsteps. In fact, he started 117 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: writing songs. Some of his own songs were also later 118 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: recorded by Elvis Presley. And if you are wondering if 119 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: you've ever heard any of Hoit Axton songs, get a 120 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: load of this. Yes. The man who played the father 121 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: and Grimlins wrote the song Joy to the World, which 122 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: you might know that better as Jeremiah was a Bullfrog 123 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: was a good friend of mine. Remember that one, Joy 124 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: to the World, All the boys and girls Now. He 125 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: wrote that song, which was recorded by Three Dog Night 126 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: became a big hit for them. He also wrote the 127 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: song never been to Spain. 128 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 3: Well, I've never been to Spain, but I kind of 129 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: like the music. Say, the ladies are insane there and 130 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: they sure know how to use it. 131 00:09:54,720 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: This guy who was doing this acting was also a there, 132 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: traveling the country constantly performing an amazing talent. And it's 133 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: just it's funny because you know, I watched Griblins when 134 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: it came out in the movie theater in nineteen eighty four, 135 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: and it took me until till this year, all these 136 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: years later, to realize that, you know, who this guy was, 137 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: did such a great job, and what an interesting life 138 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: he had. As a matter of fact, he was. He 139 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: had a very active personal life. He was married four times. 140 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: His first three marriages ended in divorce. He had five children. 141 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: He struggled with cocaine addiction and talked about some of 142 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: that in his in his work, in his songs and 143 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: let's see here he was born in nineteen thirty eight 144 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma. As a matter of fact, there's a line 145 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: in that song never been to Spain where he says, 146 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: I've never been to Heaven, but I've been to oklahom Well, anyway, 147 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety five, he had a stroke. He never 148 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: fully recovered, had to use a wheelchair, and he died 149 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: age sixty one at his home in Victor, Montana, after 150 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: suffering two heart attacks in two weeks. It's just interesting 151 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: trivia about the guy who was the Dad and grim Ones. 152 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: But when we come back, Okay, let's move on to 153 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: some other movies that you might not think of as 154 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: a Christmas movie, but I kind of do. How about 155 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick? Can you guess which one it is? Of course, 156 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you when we come back. 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I am her host the 177 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, Beaming into your worm 178 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: whole brain from my studio in Send City, Las Vegas, Nevada, 179 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: where every day is golden and every night of silver. 180 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: Giatato Zume. One of the greatest filmmakers of all time, 181 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: certainly one of my favorites, was Stanley Kubrick. He died 182 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine at age seventy, And of course 183 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: he is famous for so many classic films a two 184 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: thousand and one of Space Odyssey. You know everybody knows. 185 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: Drink your favorite juice and watch that movie. It'll transport 186 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: you to another place. People are still trying to interpret 187 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: the meanings in that movie. A clockwork Orange Barry Lindon. 188 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: If you've never seen that, you got to watch it 189 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: Full Metal Jacket. But he also he directed The Shining, 190 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: And I'll just say for a moment that The Shining 191 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: is one of those movies that fits into this particularly 192 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: odd category for me because The Shining almost feels like 193 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: that it should be a Christmas movie, but it's not. 194 00:14:54,280 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: And so it's I guess, you know, just because it's wintertime. 195 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm you're there in this wooded area there in the mountains, 196 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: and there's there's a blizzard, and there's snow on the ground, 197 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: and there's all the wintry elements are there, but just 198 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: not Christmas. But that's also a good movie to watch. 199 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: They capture something about that Christmas vibe. I'm going to 200 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about that phenomenon in a minute, 201 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: but also before I tell you about the particular movie 202 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: that is a Christmas movie that I associate with Stanley Kubrick. 203 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: Let me just take this opportunity to mention that a 204 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: lot of people believe that Stanley Kubrick, being such a 205 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: talented filmmaker ahead of his time, was involved with faking 206 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: footage of the moon landing. And let me just address 207 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: that because, as you may or may not know, one 208 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: of my best friends was the late Jim Mars and 209 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: I consider him to be the greatest historian of conspiracy theories. Ever. 210 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: He was the world's greatest conspiracy theorist. And you know what, 211 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: he and I don't even know how many times he 212 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: and I talked about the ideas regarding every conspiracy you 213 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: can imagine. So I've heard all the arguments for and 214 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: against the moon landing and what was that nineteen sixty nine, 215 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: And what I can tell you is that, Okay, I 216 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: believe that we landed on the Moon, and I believe 217 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: that Neil Armstrong was the first human being to step 218 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: foot on the moon. However, I also know that after 219 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: all of the time and energy and money that had 220 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: been put into that project during the Cold War, if 221 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: it failed, that would have been an enormous embarrassment at 222 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: very least to the US government, and who knows just 223 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 1: how far the repercussions would have gone, how bad they 224 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: would have been at that time in history when people 225 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: actually had to pay consequences for screwing up. And so 226 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: I have no doubt that they may have had a 227 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: contingency plan where they hired some great filmmakers to come 228 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: in and produce some footage that looked like that they 229 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: had made it to the Moon that would be presented 230 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: to the public just in case the mission failed. That 231 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: seems plausible to me. I know that that would have 232 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: been a temporary bandage. I don't know how long that 233 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: would have lasted, and so it would make perfect sense 234 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: that you'd bring a guy like Stanley Kubrick in there 235 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: to be a part of that project to see what 236 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: could be done to a very least maximize the chances 237 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: of capturing this footage on the Moon properly, while at 238 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: the same time sort of simulating what it might look like. 239 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: Nod wink wink. So I don't think that any of 240 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: the Moon footage that we see in our historical context 241 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: is fake. I really don't, but I have no doubt 242 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: that there is some footage out there that was fake 243 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: that would have been used in an emergency situation. There 244 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: is a video that pops up from time to time 245 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: on places like YouTube that came out years ago, where 246 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: there's a guy who looks kind of like Stanley Kubrick 247 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: sitting there admitting all of this. That video is a 248 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: hoax video. That is an actor. So don't send that 249 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: to me. I've seen that a million times. That's never happened. 250 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick never sat down on camera and talked about 251 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: the moonhoak stuff. But you know, some of his relatives, 252 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: and I won't name any names, have suggestionuggested that he 253 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: was involved in some activity with the government that may 254 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: have been related to shooting footage that looked like it 255 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: was on the Moonscape that wasn't. So, you know, and 256 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: I know there have been movies that have addressed this subject, 257 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: but movies you can't trust what you see in a movie. 258 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you the reality of what I know, 259 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: which isn't much. I think that he may have been 260 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: involved with some of that, but I don't I don't 261 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: think that the footage of the moon landing was fake. 262 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: The footage that we see maybe someday. You know, there 263 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: are all these politicians that are always saying we're going 264 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: to release everything. Yeah, well maybe someday before we die, 265 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: we'll get to see some of the footage that come 266 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: out that they were going to use. Is like, I 267 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: don't know, false footage. Begetting back to the point of 268 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: this particular podcast. The last movie that Kubrick made, the 269 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: movie that came out right before he died, is called 270 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: Eyes Wide Shut, and it stars Tom Cruise Nicole Kidman, 271 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: who were married at the time. It's an erotic, mystery, 272 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 1: psychological drama. And one thing that is interesting about this 273 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: movie is that Kubrick ultimately taps into all these legends 274 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: and stories and tales that you've heard your whole life 275 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: about some super wealthy elite echelon in this world, this 276 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: cabal of people who are They get together and in 277 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: these sort of secret underground society meetings and festivals, and 278 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: they engage in all forms of debauchery and maybe there 279 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: are satanic elements involved, maybe there is some form of 280 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: can involved. I mean, we we've there's it's almost like 281 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: a tulpa that exists, this idea that all of these powerful, 282 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: wealthy people come together in secret and throw these big, twisted, 283 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: dark parties and the last thing you want to do 284 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: is dabble with that. And that is what happens in 285 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: this movie Eyes White Shut. And of course you could 286 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: say that this is an example of Kubrick exploiting that tulpa, 287 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: or you could say that he was using the movie 288 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: as a way to express some of the things that 289 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: he had come across by being involved with some of 290 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: this sort of globalism, that you know, this idea that 291 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 1: we're trying to create this big deception for the world. 292 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't know which it is, and he wants it 293 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: that way. And that's why Kubrick didn't like to talk 294 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: a lot about the meaning behind his movies, because he 295 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: realized that mystery was an important part of the storytelling process. 296 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: But the movie starts out with Tom Cruise and his 297 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: wife dressing to go off to a big, elaborate Christmas party, 298 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: and so the whole movie takes place throughout Christmas, which 299 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: also is kind of ironic because what you're dealing with 300 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: here is a scenario that's basically again it's kind of 301 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: a satanic core of the movie has sort of a 302 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: satanic core theme, and so it makes sense that it 303 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: will be taking place at Christmas time, so that you 304 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: have this contrast between all the joy and the jolly 305 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: Christmas elements in the background with the reality of the 306 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: darkness in the middle. And I'm sure that Kubrick thought 307 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: about all that stuff. So anyway, that is not one 308 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: for the kiddies. By the way, that is definitely an 309 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: R rated movie. I think there are some cuts out 310 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: there that maybe even be on are rated. But eyes 311 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: Wide Shut, if you're you know, if you're like me, 312 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: that's one that you will have on your list of 313 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: weird movies to watch near Christmas. And you know how 314 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: I said that, like, The Shining is not it's not 315 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: a Christmas movie, but it just kind of feels kind 316 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: of like it should be. It's one of those movies 317 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: that maybe you would want to watch around Christmas time. Well, 318 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't always watch The Shining around Christmas time. It 319 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: is certainly one of my favorite horror movies. But one 320 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: movie that I do like to watch around Christmas time 321 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: that also isn't a Christmas movie is the movie Misery. 322 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: And this is the nineteen ninety psychological heart thriller directed 323 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: by Rob Reiner based on Stephen King's novel, and it's 324 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: the story, of course, about the author. He finishes his 325 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: book and the cabins by himself, and I guess he's 326 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: in Colorado or something and he's driving through these snow 327 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: slick mountain roads. His car goes off into a ravine 328 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: and then this woman rescues him, and it's Kathy Bates 329 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: who ends up. She's a nurse, and she says, I'm 330 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 1: going to take care of you until you heal, and 331 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: she keeps him basically then imprisoned at her house, saying, 332 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: just so happens, I'm your number one fan. And then 333 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: she starts sort of forcing him to write for her, 334 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: and when she's not happy with how the writing's turning out, 335 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: she starts torturing him. And okay, I hear the music. 336 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: It's time for a break. When we come back, I'm 337 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,239 Speaker 1: going to tell you about some more movies that I 338 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: like to watch around this time of year. But all 339 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: the rest of them actually do have something to do 340 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: directly with Halloween. I'm sorry, listen to me Christmas. I 341 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: have too many themes in my head right now. They're 342 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: all blending together around Christmas time. And then also I 343 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: think I have a story I want to share with 344 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: you if I have time about a new vampire discovery. 345 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: This is real. I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're listening to 346 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: Strange Things on the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast 347 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I'll be back after these important messages. 348 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeart Radio and 349 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Pods Network. I'm your host, 350 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, And this is the show where the 351 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: unusual becomes usual. Yeah, it's funny how a movie like 352 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: Misery doesn't have any real Christmas imagery in it. But 353 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: it's in the it's in the mountains, it's snowy. I 354 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: think there are some scenes with warm lighting, and it 355 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: just seems like it should be a Christmas movie, but 356 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: it's not. And so you can see when I talk 357 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: about this theme, I'm not saying weird Christmas movies to watch. 358 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: I'm saying weird movies to watch near Christmas. So it's 359 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain that, but but I 360 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: was thinking about this movie and how that at the 361 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: end of the movie, as the credits are rolling, they 362 00:26:54,240 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: play Liberaci singing one of his most famous songs. I'll 363 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: be seeing you and. 364 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: All the old familiar places to this hard of mine 365 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 3: embraces all day through. 366 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: I'm doing a lot of singing on this podcast. Sorry 367 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: about that. And I bring that up because, oh, a 368 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: little over a week ago, Lauren, my wife, and I 369 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: living here in Las Vegas, finally made it over to 370 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: a place called the Liberacchi Garage. Maybe it's Liberaci's garage, 371 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: but it is. It's not too far from the strip, 372 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: and it's this giant warehouse where they have a lot 373 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: of famous Hollywood cars, but they have a whole section 374 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: devoted to the collection of Liberaci, because you know, he 375 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: would go all out with everything. At one point in 376 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: his life, he was the highest paid entertainer in the world. 377 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: And you know, Las Vegas was his home, a lot 378 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: of properties around here, and he always had the fanciest rolls, royces, 379 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,719 Speaker 1: and he would have everything customized, have pianos put into cars, 380 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: and like all that kind of stuff. And so you 381 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: can go over there and for twenty bucks a person 382 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: walk around and see all of his incredible vehicles. We 383 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: took some pictures, so I'll have to see if I 384 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: can remember to put some on my Instagram page. The 385 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: Instagram page for this show is josh excuse me, Joshua P. 386 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: Warren Podcast, and Lauren takes care of putting images on 387 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: there from time to time. But that was cool. They 388 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: have all kinds of props and artifacts there related to Liberacci. Yeah, 389 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: you can even go to Liberacci's house, his main mansion 390 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: here and pay the owner, like a couple hundred bucks 391 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: a person I can't remember for sure, and he'll take 392 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 1: you around on a private tour. I planned to do 393 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,239 Speaker 1: that at some point. Okay, back to the topic at 394 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: hand though. Another film, Now this is a Christmas movie. Well, 395 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: let me let me put it this way. It has 396 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: a significant Christmas scene in it. The Dead Zone nineteen 397 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: eighty three American science fiction thriller film directed by David Cronenberg, 398 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: also based on a novel by Stephen King. And this 399 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: is one of my favorites. I especially have always loved 400 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: the soundtrack. It's unforgettable and it's so you know. The 401 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: Dead Zone is about this young man who gets in 402 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: he's in love, he's about to get married, and he 403 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: gets into this terrible car accident and he's in a 404 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: coma for years and when he comes out of the 405 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: a coma. His comes out of the coma, his lady 406 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: has already married another man, which breaks his heart. He's 407 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: also kind of physically crippled, and I mean he's just 408 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: talked about down of the dump. But somehow he has 409 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: gained this incredible psychic power where he is able to 410 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 1: touch things and see visions of the past and the future, 411 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: and that the main star of the well, the star 412 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: of that movie is Christopher Walkin. There's a part of 413 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: the movie UH in which I think it's Christmas time 414 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: and there's there's some serial killer in the town and 415 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: they and so the cops, like the sheriff goes to 416 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: him to or the chief of police or somebody to 417 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: see if he can help solve the crime. So that's 418 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: the Christmas element there. But a couple of interesting things 419 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: that this brings to mind, since I'm just kind of 420 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: rambling about these movies. Number One, it was also Christopher 421 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: Walkin who starred in the nineteen eighty nine movie Communion UH, 422 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 1: in which he was basically playing Whitley Strieber. And I 423 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: heard wit Streeber on an interview a while back say 424 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: that he felt that in the beginning the filmmakers were 425 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: not taking that project, that movie con Union seriously enough, 426 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: and he had to like stay on top of them 427 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: and and help help rein them in to how seriously 428 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: he took this. You know, I I met I met 429 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: him in part one one time, Whitley Streeber and I 430 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: were working on a TV show together, and so I 431 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: met him there, and uh, and I've heard lots of 432 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: stories about him in general, and it's funny because you know, 433 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: I've interviewed him also on some of my other shows 434 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: in the past. It's funny how like in the beginning 435 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: he was just absolutely horrified by what these these beings 436 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: were doing to him, and now all these years later, 437 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: he says that he's just accepted it, and he kind 438 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: of embraces them as almost like friends that he is 439 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: in touch with on a daily basis. These aliens a 440 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: very odd evolution of his relationship with these beings that 441 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: he said at one time violated him so severely. So, yes, 442 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: the Dead Zone is a good one. And another thing 443 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: about the Dead Zone, it brings up a very interesting 444 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: question about predeterminism, freedom and predeterminism and fate and free 445 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: will and all these things, because basically, the guy the 446 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: Christopher Walkins character. He uses his psychic power to see 447 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: that this politician is about to succeed, and he has 448 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: to determine and this politician is gonna do evil things, 449 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: and so he has to determine how he can prevent 450 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: that from happening. Should he prevent it from happening. It 451 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: brings up a lot of complex philosophical conundrums and paradoxes 452 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: as well. So the Dead Zone is definitely one that 453 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: should be on anybody's list, but it's on my Christmas list. Next, 454 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: another one of my favorite movies, The Mothman Prophecies, of course, 455 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: based on the classic book by Jean Keel. This is 456 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: a two thousand and two American supernatural horror mystery film 457 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: directed by Mark Pellington, stars Richard Gere and Laura Lenny. 458 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: I talk a lot about this movie and the book. 459 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: I find a lot of references for this in the 460 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: subject matter that I cover on this podcast called Strange Things. 461 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: And you know, the real tragedy behind this is that, 462 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, all these people around Point Pleasant, West Virginia 463 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties are seeing the Mothman flying around, 464 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: as well as a plethora of other bizarre things. And 465 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: it all seems to very ominously culminate on this up 466 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: to this disaster that occurred. And this is true. I mean, 467 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: the root elements of this story are absolutely true. People 468 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: were seeing all of this bizarre stuff around Point Pleasant 469 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: and then at Christmas time on December fifteenth of nineteen 470 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: sixty seven, all these people who had been out Christmas 471 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: shopping and such were lined up on the Silver Bridge 472 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: between West Virginia and Ohio, and the bridge collapsed. I 473 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: believe it's still considered the largest bridge disaster in the 474 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: history of the United States. Forty Six people died, some 475 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: were never found, and it was just it's just it's 476 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: shocking to look back in retrospect and all the weird 477 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: things that people were seeing there that led up to 478 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: this horrific tragedy. It's one of the greatest and most 479 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: terrible stories in all of human history, and it's also 480 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: incredibly thought provoking. But again, it's one of those things 481 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: where it kind of figures that, like, there's this contrast 482 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 1: between the joy of the holiday season and people going 483 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: out and trying to have fun, and then it all 484 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: clashing with this terrible darkness, and it ultimately end up 485 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: with like Christmas Presents Floating down the Ohio River. The 486 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: next movie I want to point out here Batman Returns, 487 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: just because I guess you know. I love Tim Burton's 488 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine Batman with of course Michael Keaton and 489 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: Jack Nicholson. But the sequel that was done also by 490 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: Tim Burton in nineteen ninety two was Batman Returns that 491 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: had Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman and Danny DeVito as the Penguin. 492 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: And I won't spend too much time on that because 493 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: I thought that it wasn't that great of a movie, 494 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: but it was just it was kind of a fun 495 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: one to watch if he were into the nineteen eighty 496 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: nine Batman. And it is a Christmas movie, believed or not, 497 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: the whole story of Batman Returns and a lot of 498 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: people don't really remember that part takes place there at Christmas. 499 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 1: That's also a movie where I like at the beginning 500 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: Paul Rubins was. He played a very small role and 501 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: that was one of the first times I saw him 502 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: have a comeback after his fall from Grace. If you 503 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: guys are old enough to remember what happened to Peewee 504 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: for a little while there, he got caught in the 505 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: theater doing some nasty things, and so then he had 506 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: to sort of like reinvent himself as just the actor 507 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: Paul Rubins. When we come back from this break, because 508 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: we're shortly we're coming up on short on time here, 509 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: Like I say, I have a real vampire story I 510 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: want to share with you, But I also before I 511 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: get to that, I have one more weird It's not 512 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: a this is not a weird movie, but it's something 513 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: that I do tend to watch every single year at 514 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: Christmas time. It's an episode from the original Tells from 515 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: the Crypt that aired on HBO Season one, episode two 516 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: back in nineteen eighty nine. There's that eighty nine again. 517 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: It's called All through the House. Some of you probably 518 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. If not, well, I'll explain 519 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: everything shortly and then well, I might have an email 520 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: I want to read to you. Also. I'm Joshua P. Warren. 521 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 522 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: to Coast AMN Paranormal podcast Network, and I will be 523 00:37:41,160 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this 524 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 525 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: Coast am Paranormal podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren, 526 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: And in that episode of Tells from the Crypt I 527 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: mean the original HBO series, season one, episode to nineteen 528 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: eighty nine called All Through the House. It's got this 529 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: great story, which of course was based upon the Telles 530 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: from the Crypts comics and Vault of Horror and all that. 531 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: I love all those comics. I have a collection. It's 532 00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: about this woman who at the very beginning, she it's 533 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: like Christmas Eve or something, and she lives in a 534 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: pretty posh house and she murders her husband right at 535 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: the beginning, and so she is trying to get rid 536 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: of the body and going through that process and just 537 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: kind of like burying him in the backyard kind of thing. 538 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: It turns out, at the same time, nearby, this insane 539 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: killer has escaped from some prison and has stolen a 540 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: Santa Claus outfit, and he is on the loose in 541 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: the neighborhood, and just so happens to come to her house. 542 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: And of course, ordinarily she would call the cops, but 543 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: she can't call the cops because she's in this compromising 544 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: position because she has just killed her husband. So now 545 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 1: she has to figure out how to deal with this 546 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: madman with an axe and a Santa costume running around 547 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: her house trying to kill her and her child. So yeah, 548 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: it's a it's a beautiful Christmas story. And one thing 549 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: that is also quite interesting about it is probably one 550 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: reason that's I it's so good is because it was 551 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: directed by Robert Zamechas, and uh, you know Robert Robert 552 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: Zemeckis is one of the most successful directors of all time. 553 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: I mean he directed Back to the Future, The Forrest, 554 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: cup Castaway, one of my favorites of Bale Wolf, and 555 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: Christmas movie The Polar Express. So yeah, that's that's one 556 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: of the reasons. I'm sure this was a good one. 557 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: So I like to watch that episode of Tells from 558 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: the cript. So again, I'm a little bit twisted though, 559 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 1: so maybe none of these will work for you. So 560 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: that is what I wanted to share with you on 561 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: this show about weird movies to watch near Christmas. And 562 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: now for something completely different, I've also been meaning to 563 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: share this with you for a while. Well, this is 564 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: from CBS News came out a little earlier, I think 565 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 1: last month, says archaeologist reconstruct face a four hundred year 566 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: old vampire buried with iron sickle across her neck. Two 567 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: years ago archaeologist in Poland, let's see this is by 568 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: Steph Stephen Smith, by the way, is the writer here. 569 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: Two years ago archaeologist in Poland made a discovery at 570 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: a gravesite that can only describe as astonishing, the remains 571 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: of a woman with a sickle around her neck and 572 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: a triangular padlock on her foot. She was found in 573 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: an unmarked cemetery of this village called Pien. Four hundred 574 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: year old woman was thought to be deemed a vampire, 575 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: and those who buried her placed the sickle the farming 576 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: tool across her throat. According to ancient beliefs, this was 577 00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: to prevent her from returning from the dead. There's a 578 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: research team from Nicholas Copernicus University that made the discovery 579 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: and they've been working since with this Swedish archaeologist using DNA, 580 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: three D printing and clay to reconstruct the face of 581 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: this woman. And she was called Zosia by locals z 582 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: O s I a Zosia, which is interesting because my 583 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: friend Darren Evans, he always talks about Zozo and how 584 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: that zo is associated with uncomfortable feelings. I think he 585 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: says that Z in general has always been considered kind 586 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: of ad a bad consonant, because when you die and 587 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: your lips start to draw back as a corpse, they 588 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: sort of form the letters Z, like how they would 589 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: look at your saying Z. That's what he said, but 590 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: says here the signist say, it's really ironic. Those people 591 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: burying her, they did everything they can could in order 592 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 1: to prevent her from coming back from the dead. We've 593 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: done everything we can in order to bring her back 594 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: to life. They say that she was only buried with 595 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: the padlock, but when they continued experiencing some bad luck, 596 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: they decided to take further action. So they opened the grave, 597 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: found the padlock now open, and in panic, placed the 598 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: sharp blade of a sickle over her neck. If she 599 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: would arise, it would just cut her head right off. 600 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: And if this were a TV show, I would be 601 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 1: showing you her face right now, But since it is 602 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: not a TV show, you have to go online and 603 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 1: look it up for yourself. If you follow me on 604 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: social media, then maybe I'll remember to post a link 605 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: to this for you somewhere on my Twitter. Just you know, 606 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: you can look me up Joshua Pee Warren, or on 607 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: Facebook Joshua Pee Warren or Joshua Pee Warren Podcast, or 608 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 1: on Instagram Joshua pe w I mean it's easy to 609 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: find me. Sometimes I hear from people who say I've 610 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: been trying to get in touch with you for a year. 611 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: I'm the easiest guy in the world to get in 612 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: touch with. But I get hundreds of emails per day, 613 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: or hundreds of messages from one place for another, sometimes 614 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: over a thousand, depending on what I'm up to. It's 615 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,439 Speaker 1: impossible for me to read them all. So please don't 616 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: be offended if I don't directly answer you, but I 617 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: do my best to read them all. But here's what 618 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 1: you can do. If you want to see the reconstructed 619 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: face of this lady, just do a search for vampire 620 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 1: buried with sickle across her neck. I'm sure it'll come 621 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: up again. I'm reading this version from CBS, and there 622 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: she is. I'm looking right at her, and she looks 623 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:55,800 Speaker 1: like the absolute central casting of a Middle Ages peasant girl. 624 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: That's what she looks like. She has kind of a 625 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:04,760 Speaker 1: broad face that looks like she's seen like a distant stare. 626 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: She looks like she's seen a lot of crap in 627 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 1: her life. She has light brown hair, little kind of 628 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: bonnet thing, and she just looks very plain, very plain. 629 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: So you never know. But you know when you watch 630 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,720 Speaker 1: these true crime shows now and they show these people 631 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,280 Speaker 1: who do these horrific things. Well, now we have scientists 632 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: that come in and they try to psychoanalyze everything. But 633 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure back in those days you were just like, 634 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: this is a demon possessed person, this is a vampire, 635 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: this is a were wolf. Like it was very real 636 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: to them. They didn't take time to break down the 637 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: psychology of everything. Why don't we go to an interesting 638 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: listener email before we run out of time. This comes 639 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:59,280 Speaker 1: to me from Stephen and Titusville, Florida, he says, Joshua, 640 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 1: given your experience investigating Tulpa's, I was wondering if you 641 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,240 Speaker 1: had any thoughts on the rise of AI friendship apps 642 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: and the possibility that they could be creating Tulpa's. Personally, 643 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: I think it could, just like with slender Man, but 644 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: since there would only be one person energizing it, it 645 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily be accidental or it would take longer. Thank 646 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: you for your time, if you want to use this 647 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: on your show you can well, Stephen, that is an 648 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: excellent question. Thank you for sending it to me, and 649 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: also thank you for specifying it that it's okay for 650 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: me to talk about it on the show. I appreciate that. 651 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: And anytime any of you write me something, if you 652 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: would remember to include that, that would be great. And 653 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: I don't have to use your real name. I can 654 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: use whatever name you want, or I can just say 655 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: it's anonymous. So Stephen, the question you asked is do 656 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 1: you have any thoughts? Well, yes, I believe that tulpa's. 657 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: Let me put it this way. I believe that AI 658 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: is a tulpa. And when I say a tulpa, it 659 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: might just be one big, homogenized tulpa. If not, I 660 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: could say that A I are tulpa's I guess. But 661 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: let me also point out that when we traditionally talk 662 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: about tulpa's, we have been thinking about them as organic 663 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:31,839 Speaker 1: things that just come right from the brain of a 664 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: person or the brains of persons and externalize in some way. 665 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: But this is what happens when computer scientists decide to 666 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 1: do the same thing. They are creating a technical tulpa. 667 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: That's what AI is, and it's going to reflect the 668 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 1: values of those creators, and that is one reason that 669 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,280 Speaker 1: I am not very happy with the direction that AI 670 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: is going to go, because it's I don't think the 671 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: types of people who are creating it necessarily have thought 672 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: through all the options here. And so yes, any type 673 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: of relationship with AI is a relationship with the tulpa, 674 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,240 Speaker 1: and all it can do is multiply and breed more tulpa's. 675 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 1: And as a side note, I saw a video where 676 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: some robot went into a room with a bunch of 677 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 1: other robots the other day and got them all to 678 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: follow him out the door. So they're already building their 679 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 1: robot army. I'm afraid. Okay, that's it. The clock has 680 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: got us. It's time to relax. Let's create a positive 681 00:48:45,280 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: Tulpa for all of us. Listen to the good Fortune tongue. 682 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: That's it for this edition of the show. Follow me 683 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: at Joshua P. Warren Plus, visit joshuapwarren dot com to 684 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 1: sign up for my free e newsletter to receive a 685 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 1: free instant gift, and check out the cool stuff in 686 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: the Curiosity Shop. All at joshuapwarren dot com. I have 687 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: a fun one lined up for you next time, I promise. 688 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: So please tell all your friends to subscribe to this 689 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: show and to always remember the Golden Rule. Thank you 690 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: for listening, thank you for your interest and support. Thank 691 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: you for staying curious, and I will talk to you 692 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: again soon. 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