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Speaker 1: the Browns have fired Hugh Jackson, their head coach, and

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Speaker 1: the heroes had to unite to discuss it. Dan Hansas

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Speaker 1: okay right now. The mailman Chris Westling, and on the

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Speaker 1: bat phone for this emergency podcast is Greg the Hammer Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: Greg you there as well. Why am I the hammer?

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Speaker 1: the news. Mark, We're gonna start with you on this.

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Speaker 1: You're uh, you're feeling when you heard the news. How

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Speaker 1: Dan since two thousand ten, and this is the fifth

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Speaker 1: allowing me to do this. This was the terms of

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Speaker 1: me stepping out of my other duties today so I

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Speaker 1: could I could see really making that demand. Didn't demand.

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Speaker 1: It's we have a wonderful, imp wonderful relationship, the two

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Speaker 1: of us, David Eli, a good man with a big heart. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this got a little weird, all right, we will be

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Speaker 1: back uh tomorrow, Like I said, Dan Hands signing off

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Speaker 1: a four quiet story marks. Okay, everybody stopped tweeting and

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Speaker 1: asking He's fine. Maybe wait till there's a couple of

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Speaker 1: glasses of wine, the mailman, the Old Boss and Camelina

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Speaker 1: behind the glass. Till Tuesday