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Speaker 2: Thursday Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you Thursday edition of

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live or thanks to our intern even put

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Speaker 2: that hype video together.

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Speaker 1: She's doing great, so it getting you ready.

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Speaker 2: Big matchup here in week five and uh Bill's trying

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Speaker 2: to get back on the winning track.

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Speaker 1: It's been a long time since Buffalo has beaten the

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Speaker 1: Texans in Texas.

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Speaker 2: There have been some unfortunate performances down. I was there

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Speaker 2: for the last victory though. That was the two touchdown

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Speaker 2: game by Lee Evans JP Lossman with a game winning

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Speaker 2: touchdown pass to Peerless Price.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, wow, that.

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Speaker 2: Was a while ago.

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Speaker 1: It's been a minute because we have the uh le

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Speaker 2: Yeah he had the two touchdowns, but I believe the

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Speaker 2: game winning touchdown was the peerless price I think, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we were also there for the EJ Manual interception

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Speaker 2: that was during JJ Watt's heyday of three defensive mvpspeh

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Speaker 2: up sixteen to seven and losing it overtime. That's right,

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Speaker 2: So there is a little bit of revenge to be

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Speaker 2: exacted in that building. Is it's I think it's still

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Speaker 2: called Energy Stadium. Yeah, I got it right here. Let

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Speaker 1: This, what are you looking for?

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Speaker 2: I think it's still called NRG Stadium.

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Speaker 1: I believe it is.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And even though it has a retractable roof, it

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Speaker 2: is rarely open.

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Speaker 1: Well it's yeah, they just don't well.

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Speaker 2: Which spells a colossal waste of money.

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Speaker 1: Like I know, but there's always that time, well they

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Speaker 4: It was closed for the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful stadium. It really is. And uh, it's

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Speaker 2: The new place dwarfs it easily.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, it's it's a great stadium. It's very nice.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, they do. I will say this too from

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Speaker 2: Their pregames spread is among the best in the league,

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Speaker 2: Teams really go all out before the game. Other teams

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Speaker 2: In all likelihood? It'll be interesting to see how long

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Speaker 2: There you go. That's why I asked, you know, go

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen Everybody mon O September. This marks his third

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Speaker 2: in September and December of twenty twenty. Allen's performance in

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Speaker 2: the month of September is as follows led AFC quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy six.

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Speaker 1: Burgie Way to Go Nice.

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Speaker 2: In Week three became the first quarterback in NFL history

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Speaker 1: Let's have let's have more Jacksonville games and fewer Baltimore games.

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Speaker 1: How about that?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'd sign up for that. Yeah, I would sign

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Speaker 1: I think you can tell I've we've kind of turned

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Speaker 2: the Texans, because, as expected, the Diggs facing his former

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Speaker 1: Seriously, I was I don't know what he was unhappy

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Speaker 1: to go to some boddy else. Because we had a

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Speaker 1: couple of caller yesterday. And when you hear this all

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Speaker 1: the time, when when players are moving around, Bills fans, well,

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Speaker 1: let's get him so he doesn't go someplace else, right,

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Speaker 1: he does, so he doesn't go to Kansas City, or

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Speaker 1: he doesn't go to again. Yeah, you're not gonna sabotage.

443
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna help yourself by sabotaging somebody else. It

444
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Speaker 1: just doesn't work.

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Speaker 4: Like that.

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Speaker 1: So but if you're the team with Davante Adams, like

447
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Speaker 1: the Raiders, they certainly don't want to trade him within

448
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Speaker 1: their division to Denver, them to San Diego or to

449
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Speaker 1: la or to Kansas City. So that's three teams off

450
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Speaker 1: the top right there. That kind of thinking goes into it.

451
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Speaker 1: And if if they want to go the extra mile

452
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Speaker 1: for Davante and they say we'll take half the salary

453
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Speaker 1: this year and trade him to you, then they can say,

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Speaker 1: all right, then that opens the door for the Bills

455
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Speaker 1: or the Jets or the whoever, whoever, whoever. The Saints

456
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Speaker 1: Dallas people are clamoring for him in Dallas as well.

457
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Speaker 1: I mean, all that's possible, and the Bills problem no

458
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Speaker 1: doubt laid out the parameters for how they would see

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Speaker 1: it happening. But that says nothing about what you got

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Speaker 1: to cough up to the Raiders for doing that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna if the Raider's gonna take

462
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Speaker 1: half his salary or all of his salary or most

463
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Speaker 1: of his salary, that goes from a what a fifth

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Speaker 1: round pick to a second round pick or a third

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Speaker 1: round pick to a first round pick.

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Speaker 2: If we're gonna have a condition.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to pay the guy that's playing for

468
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Speaker 1: you twenty seven million dollars. You're you're giving us a

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Speaker 1: number one. Yeah right, I mean that's the way it works. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 2: If you want to feel sorry for a player, feel

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Speaker 2: bad for Jalen Phillips. I know he plays for the Dolphins,

472
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Speaker 2: but man, oh man, what a string of bad luck

473
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Speaker 2: for him. He kind of got the Trudeavious White treatment

474
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Speaker 2: as far as injuries are concerned. He just did it

475
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Speaker 2: in reverse. As we remember Trudeavious White towards ACL and

476
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Speaker 2: then last year ruptured his achilles and his time with

477
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Speaker 2: Buffalo ended. Dolphins linebacker Jalen Phillips is going to miss

478
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Speaker 2: the rest of the season because of a partially torn ACL.

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Speaker 2: The team confirmed this yesterday. Phillips initially suffered the injury

480
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Speaker 2: during Monday's loss to the Titans when the helmet of

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Speaker 2: Jordan Poyer collided with his right knee while trying to

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Speaker 2: tackle Titans running back Tony Pollard in the second quarter.

483
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Speaker 2: Phillips escorted to the locker room further testing and re

484
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Speaker 2: entered the game. Doctors determined if as long as he

485
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Speaker 2: wears a brace, he can't do any more damage to

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Speaker 2: what already happened. So he came back, played, but then

487
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Speaker 2: left again and his season is over. This on the

488
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Speaker 2: heels of rupturing in achilles last November, which I gotta

489
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Speaker 2: tell you, I was impressed. He came back from a

490
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Speaker 2: ruptured achilles and was ready to play Week one this season.

491
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Speaker 2: So to see him have a partially torn ACL that

492
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Speaker 2: just sucks for him. So it's like Josh said a

493
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, it's the worst part of the game.

494
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Speaker 2: You know. It's just absolutely just feel bad for him,

495
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Speaker 2: and the hits just keep on coming for the Dolphins

496
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Speaker 2: as far as injuries.

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Speaker 1: Go, you feel a beat up crew right, bad for

498
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Speaker 1: the bad for the player and for the organization. Not

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Speaker 1: so much.

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Speaker 2: Now to fill you in on what's coming your way

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Speaker 2: here on today's show, we've got ESPN NFL analyst and

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Speaker 2: fantasy football expert Field Yates joining us with his ultimate

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Speaker 2: fantasy lineup that's coming up in about five minutes. Second

504
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Speaker 2: hour of the show, the Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas

505
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Speaker 2: joins us in studio, so we'll catch up with Therm

506
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Speaker 2: see what he thinks the Bills can do to bounce

507
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Speaker 2: back from last week's performance, and if players get to

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Speaker 2: the post practice podium before we are off the air,

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Speaker 2: we will bring those to you as well. So shock

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Speaker 2: full of nuts addition of One Bill's Live here today

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Speaker 2: we take a break now, but when we return, it's

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Speaker 2: Field Yates giving you the best lineup you could possibly

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Speaker 2: think of. Coming up next here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and join now as

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Speaker 2: we are every week by ESPN NFL insider and fantasy

518
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Speaker 2: football analyst Field Yates, who as your Week five Ultimate

519
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Speaker 2: Fantasy lineup presented by FanDuel. Make every moment more all right, Field,

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Speaker 2: right out of the blocks here, you're spending big, just.

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Speaker 5: Big, but as much money as you can possibly spend

522
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Speaker 5: on a player this week on FanDuel.

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Speaker 3: That is a certain Josh Allen.

524
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Speaker 5: And you know something, guys, I don't need to make

525
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Speaker 5: the case for Josh Allen and Fantasy football most weeks,

526
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Speaker 5: but anybody else here think that Josh is just a

527
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Speaker 5: little bit pissed off about what happened this past Sunday, night,

528
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Speaker 5: because I sure do, and I think he's probably saying

529
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Speaker 5: to himself, I can't have a dud again in a

530
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Speaker 5: game that means maybe just a little bit more to

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Speaker 5: this Bill's franchise given the team that they are playing,

532
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Speaker 5: and one of their top receivers now beat Stefan Digg,

533
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Speaker 5: so I think Josh is in for a major day.

534
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Speaker 5: This Houston defense has a lot of talent, but has

535
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Speaker 5: not been a big determinant excuse me, detriment to opposing

536
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Speaker 5: offenses so far this season.

537
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Speaker 3: So while they.

538
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Speaker 5: Don't often pay huge money and it's actually pretty rare

539
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Speaker 5: that I have Josh in my daily fantasy lineups because

540
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Speaker 5: he is not a contrarian play, this felt like the

541
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Speaker 5: week to pay up for Josh, even if he does

542
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Speaker 5: not have Khalil Shakir, which is growing increasingly unlikely given

543
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Speaker 5: that he.

544
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Speaker 3: Was not spotted that practices a little while ago.

545
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh, yeah, it makes it makes some sense.

547
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Speaker 1: There's gonna be well, and theoretically as well, if everybody's

548
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: gonna eat, you don't really need everybody up at the table,

549
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: right and if she hears out of the lineup, they're

550
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Speaker 1: gonna have enough guys that are reliable enough and are

551
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Speaker 1: still a bigger part of big enough, a part of

552
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Speaker 1: the offense. They're gonna come through for for Josh anyway, totally.

553
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Speaker 5: And agree on that, and yeah, it is a uh,

554
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Speaker 5: it's it's I am buying into the narrative very much.

555
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Speaker 3: This week, I do think Josh bounces back.

556
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Speaker 5: He has two monster game so far this season and

557
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 5: then too quiet games so far the season. One was

558
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Speaker 5: by design, right, They didn't need him to be great

559
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Speaker 5: against Miami at a game that they dominated on the ground,

560
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Speaker 5: and that got away from the Dolphins in the first half,

561
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Speaker 5: and the Bills just kind of cruised to that second half.

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Speaker 5: Last week, though Josh was not his best, and I

563
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Speaker 5: think he knows that. I think the entire team understands

564
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Speaker 5: that as he goes, likely so goes the rest of

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Speaker 5: this Buffalo Bills franchise.

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Speaker 3: And I think a big bounce back week is in

567
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Speaker 3: store for the Bills on Sunday against Houston.

568
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Speaker 5: By the way, great lighting from me today, guys, I

569
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Speaker 5: don't know what's gotten into me. It's an unseasonably warm

570
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Speaker 5: day here in early October in lovely Connecticut.

571
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Speaker 1: I see it.

572
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Speaker 4: That's great.

573
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Speaker 1: Give us a rundown on your running backs here coming

574
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Speaker 1: up because you always talk about and you're right, you

575
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Speaker 1: have to get value. One guy looks like you're paying again.

576
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Speaker 1: Another guy is a value pick.

577
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 5: Let's start with Jordan Mason, who is not the value play.

579
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Speaker 5: He's eighty seven hundred dollars for the for the San

580
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Speaker 5: Franco forty nine or Sea is almost in Christian McCaffrey territory.

581
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Speaker 5: But if you look at the numbers, he has almost

582
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Speaker 5: been as good as Christian McCaffrey often is for fantasy

583
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Speaker 5: football purposes. What he is not doing is catching the

584
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Speaker 5: football like Christian McCaffrey.

585
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Speaker 3: And yet I'm not sure that it matters.

586
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Speaker 5: With the way that he is running the ball right now,

587
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 5: every single week he has been money in the bank.

588
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Speaker 5: He might be the best bet in the entire NFL

589
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 5: right now for a touchdown scored in any given weekend.

590
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Speaker 5: The forty nine Ers play the Cardinals' upcoming weekend, a

591
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Speaker 5: team that does not scare me as far as their

592
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Speaker 5: run defense is concerned. So it's a big price, but

593
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Speaker 5: I'm willing to pay up for it, which is in

594
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Speaker 5: part because I pay down at my second running back

595
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Speaker 5: spot with DeAndre Swift for the Chicago Bears, who bounced

596
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Speaker 5: back last week in a major way sixty four hundred dollars,

597
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 5: coming off of his best game of his young Bears career.

598
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Speaker 5: They played the Panthers on Sunday. This is very much

599
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Speaker 5: a defense that you can run the football against.

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Speaker 3: We have seen that time and again.

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Speaker 5: The Bengals had Zach Wallace and Chase Brown find the

602
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Speaker 5: end zone for a total of three times last Sunday

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Speaker 5: against the Carolina Panthers. So a good matchup peer for

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Speaker 5: DeAndre Swift to once again have a standout day after

605
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Speaker 5: a really really strong Week four and a win the

606
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Speaker 5: Bears kind of needed against that Los Angeles Rams defense.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's move along to wide receiver. Some household names

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Speaker 2: and then maybe a name that some fans are not

609
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Speaker 2: wholly familiar with.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jordan Whittington, who outside of Austin, Texas As, he

611
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Speaker 5: was a really really good player for the University of

612
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Speaker 5: Texas and he kind of was mister Texas when he

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Speaker 5: was down there. Probably not a name that a lot

614
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Speaker 5: of people know right now, but at fifty four hundred

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Speaker 5: dollars coming off of a game in which he was

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Speaker 5: as prominently involved as any Rams wide receiver. It's a

617
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Speaker 5: pretty good price right there. They play the Packers on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: We do forecast the Packers, who put up a lot

619
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Speaker 5: of points. So if the Rams are humming on offense,

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Speaker 5: it's probably because they're able to run the football and

621
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Speaker 5: throw the football effectively.

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Speaker 3: But if they're not, they're gonna be playing from behind.

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Speaker 5: Because that Packers offense is very equipped to build a

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Speaker 5: big lead. Could lead to some good game script here.

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Speaker 5: For Jordan Whittington, it's kind of a game of roulette

626
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Speaker 5: to guess which Rams wide receiver will be the one

627
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Speaker 5: that has the best rule every week until Cooper Cup

628
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Speaker 5: or Pukin Nuku overturns. But I do think there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of optimism within the organization that Whittington was a

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Speaker 5: good fine in the sixth round.

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Speaker 3: So that's the unfamiliar name. Now let's go to the

632
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Speaker 3: more familiar name. Let's go to.

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Speaker 5: Courtland Sutton, who is seeing a ton of targets right

634
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Speaker 5: now for the Broncos. The target share is not the issue.

635
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Speaker 5: It's the effectiveness. It's the catch percentage is low for

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Speaker 5: Courtland Sutton, and I'm thinking to myself, is that something

637
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Speaker 5: that I really expect for a bow Knicks quarterback offense.

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Speaker 5: You guys know Bo from the pre draft process. His

639
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Speaker 5: strength was his accuracy. He had the single season completion

640
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Speaker 5: percentage mark at Oregon during his final season in college.

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Speaker 3: And while most of his work.

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Speaker 5: He was down with short yardage and short area, he

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Speaker 5: had an average stepth of target. Our average are yardsers

644
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Speaker 5: say is like six point twenty five yards. Kayler Williams,

645
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Speaker 5: Jaden Daniels, JJ McCarthy, Michael Pennix, Junior Drake may up

646
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Speaker 5: over ten yards per attempt. He's still an accurate quarterback

647
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Speaker 5: and we have not seen as much of that. I

648
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Speaker 5: expect them to turn around in a good matchup against

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Speaker 5: the Raiders. And then finally, Deontay Johnson, who's been remarkable

650
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Speaker 5: over the past couple of weeks for the Carolina Panthers

651
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Speaker 5: twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: Targets over the past two weeks.

653
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Speaker 5: Clearly Andy Dalton's favorite target, Adam Feelin is out right now.

654
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Speaker 5: They did have a good performance last week from Xavier Ligett,

655
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Speaker 5: their rookie first round pick wide receiver, uh and there'll

656
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Speaker 5: be more of Lagett, I think going forward. But Deontay

657
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Speaker 5: Johnson certainly seems like he is the trusted vet for

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Speaker 5: Andy Dalton. Dave Canalis, their head coach, talked again this

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Speaker 5: week about how basically the offense is built around Deontay Johnson, and.

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Speaker 1: I got to be honest with you. I looked at

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Speaker 1: your lineup before we got on the air, and I

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Speaker 1: did not know who Tucker Craft was.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 5: You go, second round pick last year, third round pick

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Speaker 5: last year, South Dakota State to Green Bay. So he's

666
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Speaker 5: been up in the what we call that area of

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Speaker 5: the country.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That would be like the like the.

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Speaker 1: Northern pest to the call the Northern plains, the here

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Speaker 1: we go the Northern Plains.

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Speaker 5: That's what I needed to know right there. Good player

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00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 5: played a lot of snaps last week. Luke Musgrave, their

674
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 5: second round tight end at Oregon State last season, is

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Speaker 5: still dealing with an ankle injury right now. So Tucker

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Speaker 5: Craft should play a lot of snaps. He is, you

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Speaker 5: know that, he is the proverbial does a lot of

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Speaker 5: things really well player. But when he gets opportunities, he

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Speaker 5: should capitalize on those. So Tucker Craft at a position

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Speaker 5: we are still looking for actual starting players.

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Speaker 3: Pretty good bet there at tight end, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, and then let's move over to the flex and

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Speaker 2: you're going right back to that Rams green Bay game.

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Speaker 2: You're expecting a thing to be a shootout.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm hoping for all the shootouts this weekend, truthfully,

686
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Speaker 5: but right there especially, it's right back to Karen Williams,

687
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Speaker 5: who we got some money left in the kiddy here, and.

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Speaker 3: Karen Williams has been so so good this season.

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Speaker 5: Not prominently involved in the passing game, but it doesn't

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Speaker 5: matter because they give him all the carries, all of them,

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00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 5: like ninety eight percent of the carriers are going to

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Speaker 5: Karen Williams right now in that Los Angeles Rams offense.

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Speaker 5: They drafted corm in the third round and they hardly

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Speaker 5: use them so far. Wouldn't surprise me if that remains

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Speaker 5: the case here for Kyroen Williams going up against Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier how.

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Speaker 5: The Rams could be humming both in the running game

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00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 5: and the passing game and still have to find a

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Speaker 5: way to keep up with Green Bay. But their intention

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Speaker 5: is always going to be to run the football until

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Speaker 5: they get more defensive reinforcements, which I'm looking at the

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Speaker 5: roster guys, and I think they're gonna be hard pressed

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Speaker 5: to find those, so give me Kiren Williams for eighty

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Speaker 5: four hundred bucks.

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Speaker 1: All right, Field, thanks for that, And I gotta wrap

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Speaker 1: up with defense here. See, oh I got you. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got.

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Speaker 5: To play some Yeah, we played the Commander's defense. It's okay,

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Speaker 5: Commander's defense thirty five hundred bucks, guys. A good match

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Speaker 5: up here against the Browns, right this Brown's offense still

711
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 5: a mess offensive line injuries. The Commanders took advantage of

712
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Speaker 5: a good matchup this past weekend, played really really well

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Speaker 5: and that impressive three and one start. So the Commander

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Speaker 5: is getting after it as Dan Quinn loves to do

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Speaker 5: with that pass rush. Wouldn't surprise me if they have

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Speaker 5: a decent day. And it's hard to get cheaper than

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Speaker 5: thirty five hundred bucks.

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Speaker 2: All right, So I gotta I gotta ask you a

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Speaker 2: feel just regarding Texans bills. I'm curious for your take

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Speaker 2: on the Texans offense. Obviously it's got a ton of

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Speaker 2: skill position players all over the place, and yet you know,

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Speaker 2: they haven't scored twenty points, they haven't averaged not even

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Speaker 2: averaging twenty points a game, which I think is shocking.

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Speaker 2: If you haven't seen any of their games up close,

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Speaker 2: and personal. Is it just inconsistency there is? What do

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Speaker 2: you think is missing? Because I know you get a

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Speaker 2: chance to watch a lot more of these games than

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Speaker 2: we do.

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Speaker 5: Inconsistency and the offensive line has been a real problem.

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Speaker 5: Offensive lines allowed too many pressures. The offensive line has

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Speaker 5: had way too many unforced errors. I mean Army Tunsil,

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Speaker 5: their left tackle, who's been playing through injury and is

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Speaker 5: playing through injury again this week is amongst the league

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Speaker 5: leaders and penalties. They just can't get out of their

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Speaker 5: own way offensively, has been my stance on it.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: CJ.

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Speaker 5: Stroud will make a handful of rows of game that

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00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 5: your job will drop because he's that impressive as a player.

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Speaker 5: But a team that has all these expectations has not

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Speaker 5: been nearly consistent enough.

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Speaker 3: They just have not fired on all cylinders.

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Speaker 5: I do think they feel like they're at their best

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Speaker 5: with Joe Mixon on the field. He is not practicing

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00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 5: again today high ankles, brain. If he does not practiced tomorrow,

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Speaker 5: you can all but count him out for Sunday. As

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Speaker 5: a matter of fact, I'm dubious of play on Sunday

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Speaker 5: as of rights now, but I do feel like that

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Speaker 5: gives you buff a little bit of an advantage there.

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Speaker 5: As we know, the Bills amongst the zone heaviest teams

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Speaker 5: in the entire NFL. So the goal for them will

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Speaker 5: be to neutralized Nico Collins and Stefon Diggs, and if

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Speaker 5: they can make the Texans a bit more one dimensional,

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Speaker 5: a bit more not entirely, but a bit more one dimensional,

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Speaker 5: they've got a shot in a game that I do

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Speaker 5: believe is kind of a statement game one way or

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Speaker 5: the other. Whoever emerges victorious will probably feel like they

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Speaker 5: are unquestionably the best team in their own division and

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Speaker 5: maybe even the team that has the best chance to

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Speaker 5: dethron the Chiefs this season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of agree with all of that, and

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Speaker 1: it does come down to, I think, more so than anything,

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Speaker 1: this early stage of the season, who has been healthiest

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Speaker 1: around the league. You got guys trying to gut it

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Speaker 1: out and play. But we see the Dolphins just getting

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00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: injury after injury after injury, and a team that we

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00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: thought was going to be really good, high scoring offense

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Speaker 1: has now I was watching as two as you know,

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Speaker 1: holding the clipboard on the sidelines. It's does this seem

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00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: like a worse season than others in that Regarde.

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Speaker 5: Feels pretty bad so far. A lot of notable injuries

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Speaker 5: as well. They started even prior to the season, right,

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Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 3: Week one inactive as a.

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Speaker 5: Surprise, now one, I are I mean Pukunakula, big name Tuatungula, Biloa.

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00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 5: Big name quarterbacks are always going to move the needle

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Speaker 5: in a pretty significant way. But man, it has been

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Speaker 5: a game of attrition, and sometimes in the NFL it

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Speaker 5: kind of is the survival of the fittest, who's the

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Speaker 5: healthiest when it matters the most.

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Speaker 3: The Bills not immune to it, just like any other team.

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00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 5: But you can find a way to keep these guys up, right,

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00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 5: You got a chance to be pretty good down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: All right, Phil, thanks for Ultimate Fantasy Lineup week five.

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Speaker 2: I have addition. We appreciate it. We'll catch you next

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Speaker 2: week for week six.

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Speaker 3: Sounds good, guys, talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: All right. That's Field Yates, ESPN NFL insider and Fantasy

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Speaker 2: football analyst giving us his ultimate fantasy Josh Allen rolling

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Speaker 2: for him out of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's he's too expensive. Usually Josh is the most

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Speaker 1: expensive player on the board. And but if he's you know,

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Speaker 1: if you think feel like he's poised, you know, to

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Speaker 1: do something. Yeah, he got to grab.

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Speaker 2: Him and he thinks he's going to be pretty p

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Speaker 2: o this week.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well we'll see, I mean yeah, but we've

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Speaker 1: also seen, you know, you know how Josh gets when

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Speaker 1: I love him. I love the guy. You know, we

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Speaker 1: all do. But uh, just just take a deep breath

801
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: and take what they give you, man. I'm Joe Mixon

802
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: is a huge factor in this game, and so is

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Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir. Those two guys are a huge difference makers

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00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: for their offense, and Shakir, I don't think is as

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00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: big a difference maker as Joe Mixon has shown himself

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00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: to be for the Texans, even at this early stage

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Speaker 1: of his time year. He's a good back. He's a

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Speaker 1: really good back, fast, and he's really strong.

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Speaker 2: And he's bigger than I think people those two.

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Speaker 1: Twenty Yeah, he breaks tackles. So I'm you know, Mixon

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Speaker 1: is huge in this game for the Texans. Khalil Shakiir

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Speaker 1: is a loss for the Bills, but in a in

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Speaker 1: an offense the way they're running it these days, it's like,

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Speaker 1: oh you know, some you got another guy. You got

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Speaker 1: other guys as you can go to Kincaid, Cook, Coleman,

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Speaker 1: and Samuel. I mean, it's we're still at the point now,

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Speaker 1: and I think this is why maybe it feels bad

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Speaker 1: that Shakiir may be out. Is Shakir to me was

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Speaker 1: feeling like the guy who was elevating to be more

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Speaker 1: important part of the offense, bigger part of the offense,

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Speaker 1: more reps in the offense, more snaps. You know, he didn't.

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Speaker 1: He's not rotating out that kind of guy. He started

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Speaker 1: to elevate towards that number one target guy consistently. And

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Speaker 1: now you know, if he's got a uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: injured that that hurts. It does I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it hurts the Bills as bad as as mixing hurts

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Speaker 1: the Texans. But man, you know you need your guys.

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Speaker 2: We have to step aside here. But I neglected to

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Speaker 2: comes from Michael, who asks how has the NFL at

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Speaker 2: your positions wide receiver special teams changed since you've played

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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: In a couple of ways, One the special teams is

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Speaker 1: change vastly because they keep because mostly because of player safety.

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Speaker 1: People might be well now, people might be appalled at

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Speaker 1: the differences. If they look back at game film from

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Speaker 1: when I played, and even decades before I played, how

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Speaker 1: brutal it was, and how you know, the the collisions

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Speaker 1: and the the stuff they they did back then. I

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Speaker 1: say they the game is much safer now as a

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Speaker 1: special teams player, and it's much more difficult to make

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Speaker 1: a great play now than because of the rules. You

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Speaker 1: can't overload one side of the line of scrim of

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00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: the ball on a punt team that everybody has to

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Speaker 1: line up evenly across. As a punt return team, you

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Speaker 1: can't overload one side and block it. That kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Kickoff return obviously, kickoff kickoff return obviously is vastly different.

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Speaker 1: Has changed twice, completely overhauled twice since I retired, and

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Speaker 1: and field goals a field goal and field goal blocked.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the field goal kickers this year alone, they're

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Speaker 1: killing it there there. It's almost it's crazy how good

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00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: those guys are. I'll say this too, Guys like Jan Stener,

872
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: Rude Morton, Anderson Garrow, you Premian, you know you go

873
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: down and Justin von Shaman, all of the right, all

874
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: the all the great kickers of the past generations, who

875
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: you know. Those guys aren't six five, two hundred and

876
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: sixty pounds and can't run a fourth, but they can play.

877
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: They can play pro football. Punters Sean Landetta, Uh, you

878
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: know all those guys, Sean Landetta didn't play football. He says,

879
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: we shoot, I can do that. He goes out and

880
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: he planted the NFL for a long time, had a

881
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: great career in sixteen years. Players from the past generations

882
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: have inspired and alerted young guys that they don't have

883
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 1: to be genetically set apart to contribute to a great

884
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: team of play pro football like me, like Don beebe

885
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: Wes Welker, Gerald McNeil, you know guys like that. And

886
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: certainly the way and in large part for special teams

887
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: that's true is return guys and coverage guys, but also

888
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver. When the league has changed, they've

889
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: evolved into more of a passing league, and they have

890
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: freed players up to be able to run through the

891
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: secondary without being harassed. That has really opened up the

892
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: game for guys of my stature to play. Guy, you

893
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: don't have to be six four. I mean you go

894
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: back in the days like Kenny Kenny Houston for this

895
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: for the oilers and the and who was a defensive back.

896
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: He was six four two and thirty pounds. I mean,

897
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: that's the kind of guys that were playing out there,

898
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: because they would grab and hold and they could hit

899
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: you as long as the ball wasn't in the air.

900
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: They were they were Yeah, it was a wrestling match.

901
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: You couldn't even you could even run, let alone get open.

902
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: So they they safened the game. They made it and

903
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: in doing so, you can send some people say they

904
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: softened it. You can make that argument, sure, except the

905
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: fact that the guys who play it aren't soft even today.

906
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: And the old guys are shake their heads and yeah

907
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: they don't. They are not able to do it. That

908
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: the old guys will say, nobody knows how to tackle.

909
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: Nobody does that. Yes, that's true, they don't. They because

910
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: they're not allowed to tackle the way the old guys

911
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: used to be able to tackle. Clotheslining guys, hitting them

912
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: in the head, going low with the you know, they

913
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: they weren't able to do that. They're not allowed to.

914
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: It's a penalty. So they had to figure out ways

915
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: to adapt to the rules of how the best way

916
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: to tackle is now. And I've said it before on

917
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: the show. They don't tackle the player anymore. They tackle

918
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: the ball. They try and get the ball out, and

919
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: that's where the game is evolving too. So yes, the

920
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: game is vastly different on special teams, vastly different on

921
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver, I think the wide receiver thing. Obviously,

922
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: that position has elevated enormously over the last couple of

923
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: decades into one of the highest paid positions in the league.

924
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: It wasn't that way for a long time. Now it is.

925
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: It went from running back now it's a wide receiver. Certainly,

926
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: it's quarterback and all that, but offensively left tackle, quarterback

927
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: and wide receiver is the money position. And the only

928
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: thing that keeps it from going astronomical is the fact

929
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: that there's so many guys who are physically capable of

930
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: playing now because you don't have to be six ' five,

931
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: you know, or you have to do is have a

932
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: skill set. That has really opened it up for a

933
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: large number of guys to make a ton of money

934
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: and contribute big time in the National football All right.

935
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: Well that is excuse me, mister tasker. We got to

936
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: go to the phones here on an obl fan Friday

937
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: on Thursday, and we go to Kevin in Hamburg. What

938
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: do you got for us? Kevin?

939
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I wanted to

940
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 6: ask you some What do you know about the possible

941
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 6: trade rumors of Amari Cooper from the Browns. You don't

942
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 6: know for sure, but he might be out there, and

943
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 6: he wants a real low amount of money, not even

944
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 6: barely a million for a year. He might be a ben.

945
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 6: He's a veteran. He don't have a diva problem. I

946
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 6: don't think he has a diva problem like some receivers get.

947
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 6: He might be worth a lot, and he might want

948
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 6: to get out of Cleveland, especially with his quarterback. Maybe

949
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 6: go down on the Troopers again legally for another lawsuit.

950
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 6: I guess we're in a loss suit against you know.

951
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 6: So he might want to get out of Cleveland before

952
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 6: the whole Titanic goes right down under the ocean. So,

953
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 6: and he might not be a bed. He's a good

954
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 6: he's a veteran, he's a good player. He didn't have

955
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 6: diva problems even in Dallas for those big egos in Dallas.

956
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 6: So what do you think about possibly him if they

957
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 6: let him go for a good amount of money, that's

958
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 6: not outrageous.

959
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they talked about moving Cooper at the

960
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: beginning of the year and then it just kind of

961
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 2: died on the vine and it was just oh, scurried

962
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 2: away and it fell by the wayside. Maybe some teams

963
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: in around the trade deadline. He is only an eight

964
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 2: point seven cap hit that would obviously be pro rated

965
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: by the time you get to early November and probably

966
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 2: cut in half, and it's closer to four if you

967
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: inherit the contract. It was a five year, one hundred

968
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 2: million dollar deal when he signed it, but they readjusted

969
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: his contract, so his base salary he's only like one

970
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: point two this year because he did a restructure and

971
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: a pro ration and all of that stuff, and they

972
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: put in four void years to push the money down

973
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: the road. That's what Cleveland had to do. How it

974
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 2: would work if they moved him, it would still be

975
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: tricky because if they've moved him this year, it would

976
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: be thirty one million in dead cap for the Browns

977
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: and that's with all the void years. I mean, even

978
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: if even next year it's like twenty two million in

979
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: dead money for the for the Browns when he becomes

980
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: an unrestricted free agent, there's only one your left. I

981
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: don't think those void year cap implications would impact the Bills.

982
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: So maybe if you get to November and you feel

983
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: you need a little help, could do a lot worse

984
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: than Amari Cooper. Yeah, sure, you don't like it.

985
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: No, Well, the number two scoring offense in the league,

986
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: got the best quarterback in the league. You're three and one.

987
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: You had a bad weekend all of a sudden, you

988
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: need to No, that missed me with that stuff. Yeah,

989
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: I'll go with the guys we got. I'll go with

990
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: the guys we got.

991
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 5: Now.

992
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: Certainly, if if a guy comes available and he's cheap

993
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: and he's a really good player, take him, of course,

994
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: but don't waste your don't waste your assets, your draft

995
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: picks and money this year, next year, and next year

996
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: for a guy who is not going to be hugely

997
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: productive over that entire span.

998
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: Well yeah, plus, he'd be a rental you know, he's

999
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 2: a rental player.

1000
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: He's not if you're gonna get a guy, get a

1001
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: guy for four years. You know those guys aren't out there.

1002
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm good with the guys we've got. Are

1003
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: you're scoring a ton of points? I mean, yeah, they

1004
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 1: had a bad day. Yes, Baltimore got them, no question

1005
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: about it. Now, it was a bad night. That doesn't

1006
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: mean the Bills are a bad team. And I good

1007
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: players will make you better, no question, but only if

1008
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna get.

1009
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 4: Them cheap, no cheap.

1010
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: Break time for us here, but our number two when

1011
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: we return, is gonna begin with the Hall of Famer

1012
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 2: Thurman Thomas gonna join us in studio here. We'll talk

1013
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: Bill's Texans with him, and there is an update on

1014
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 2: the running back front for the Texans. Joe Mixon not

1015
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 2: practicing again today, still dealing with that high ankle sprain.

1016
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that with Therman Thomas. Next here on

1017
00:52:52,000 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1018
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: This this One Bills Live presented by Calllida Health.

1019
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: All right, hour number two Here on a Thursday, Chris Brown,

1020
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: Steve tasking with you, and we welcome into the studio

1021
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: our good friend, Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas, and uh

1022
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: guys have some good news to pass along to you.

1023
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 2: Sixty seniors advance in the voting process for the Pro

1024
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty five. The

1025
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 2: number of one hundred and eighty two nominees has been

1026
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 2: reduced now to sixty and one. Steve Tasker remains on

1027
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: the list. How about that? How about that?

1028
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 4: So about that? Maybe? How about that?

1029
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 2: In case you're wondering where it goes from here, there

1030
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 2: is a separate nine person Seniors Blue Ribbon Committee there.

1031
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: We gotta get you on that committee so you can

1032
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: stump for this guy, Jim, so they will make I

1033
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 2: am on it.

1034
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: Oh okay, alright, so obviously I'm not getting in.

1035
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 2: A separate nine person Seniors Blue Ribbon Committee will make

1036
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 2: additional reductions in increments over the next several weeks. In

1037
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 2: late fall, this committee will select three seniors as finalists

1038
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: for possible election with the class of twenty twenty five.

1039
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: How much time you guys put in on that because

1040
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: I meeting like it's on a schedule on zoom or

1041
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: you guys know, No, we because we pick like there's

1042
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: only nine of you.

1043
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, but we get to choose at home. I don't

1044
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 7: even talk to other guys.

1045
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: Oh you don't talk to anybody. Oh no, you just

1046
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: make your lists.

1047
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 1: The other guys are oh.

1048
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, yeah, I know.

1049
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: So it's not like blind drawer.

1050
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 4: No, no, not at all. Yeah.

1051
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm putting out every running back and you.

1052
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: They're like, you put nine special teams guys on, you

1053
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: put me? Yeah, I got you running back and you.

1054
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. The running backs left running back and the running

1055
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 2: backs left are Alan Otis Anderson, Larry Brown, Roger Craig,

1056
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: Chuck Foreman, cecil isbel and Paul Tank Younger.

1057
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: So those some of those guys are way back.

1058
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: Did Ricky Waters? Ricky Waters is still a modern era Canady?

1059
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: Yes he is, Okay, he's not a.

1060
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, him and Wark Nunn. A couple of the guys. Yeah,

1061
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 7: I haven't even really looked at my list yet.

1062
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 4: Roger Craig, Roder Craig should be.

1063
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: It's just uh, it just gotten it just got announced, right,

1064
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: haven't I.

1065
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 7: Just got Yeah, I got a date to get my

1066
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 7: names in.

1067
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 4: So I'm okay, all right, I want to do it

1068
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 4: this weekend. Maybe I will do it this weekend.

1069
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 2: Oh man, I don't know. If you want to, you

1070
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 2: might get some unwanted input.

1071
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I'll listen to.

1072
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: Him, yeahs, alluding to yeah, all right, well more, Yeah,

1073
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: we don't want talk.

1074
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 2: We can recap that.

1075
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 4: We can recap that in February.

1076
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, Uh so that's cool, very well done, and

1077
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: uh very I mean you're the only you're the only

1078
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: specialist left on the seniors list.

1079
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: It's cool to be in the conversation.

1080
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 4: It is.

1081
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: But I keep I tell therm all the time. It

1082
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: might mess it all up for me, because I got it.

1083
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: I got a nice life here in Buffalo. You know,

1084
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: I like working with you, the group here I got.

1085
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: You know, I got.

1086
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: Ten minute commute to work.

1087
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: You know, it's awesome.

1088
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1089
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: Am I mess it all up?

1090
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 2: No?

1091
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 4: I don't think it will.

1092
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: All you got to do is mess it all up.

1093
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 2: All you gotta do is change your business card.

1094
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 4: You put that jacket on. You just raise your price

1095
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 4: a little bit more, that's all. That's all.

1096
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: And Apple, change your business car business. It's really I

1097
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: turned into a donkey.

1098
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 7: Man.

1099
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: I'll be insufferable, just like I was when I was thirteen. Man,

1100
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: I'll be like a sniley.

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00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 4: You'll be fine, You'll be fine, all right.

1102
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: So theirm uh, this Texans team this week got a

1103
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: lot of high powered skill position players and they still

1104
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: haven't put it all together yet. Down there in Houston.

1105
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: They're not even averaging twenty points a game, maybe a

1106
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 2: little fortunate to be three and one In light of that,

1107
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: A lot of people attribute it to the absence of

1108
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon, who's been out with a high ankle spring

1109
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: as to why, you know, their offense hasn't looked like

1110
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: and everybody expected it to. Uh, you know, he only

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00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: had one game and he went off for like one

1112
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: hundred and forty yards rushing. I think that was in

1113
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 2: Week one and really hasn't played much since. How much

1114
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: does a running back like that kind of make a

1115
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: difference for an offense that even has plenty of receiving

1116
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 2: weapons and a great quarterback.

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00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I think especially with Joe Mixon, and obviously

1118
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 7: I have to talk about it, even though he went

1119
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 7: to University of Oklahoma.

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00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 4: Yeah so yeah.

1121
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 7: But but I think Joe Mixing brings a different mentality

1122
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 7: to the game. He's a feisty, angry guy, and he

1123
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 7: loves being physical with a dB alignment a linebacker, it

1124
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 7: doesn't matter who it is. And I think he just

1125
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,959
Speaker 7: brings he brings a toughness to that football team.

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00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 4: He really does, and I know.

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00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 7: That they have I mean, look, he's right in the

1128
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 7: middle of everything right, He's leading everything, and they got

1129
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 7: you know, I mean, you know, you know Tank Bell

1130
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 7: is there, Willie Anderson Junior, you know, I mean you

1131
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 7: know Stefan did. I mean, they have some guys that

1132
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 7: are there, but he's the guy. If you remember when

1133
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 7: he was went Cincinnati, he was basically doing the same thing.

1134
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 7: Attitude attitude guy. And I think that's really gotten to

1135
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 7: the players there, and I think it's really helped him

1136
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 7: be really physical and really be like.

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00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 4: Hey, we got a good football team here.

1138
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 7: Everybody knows that we got a good football team, but

1139
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 7: we have to believe it.

1140
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 4: I think those guys have really bought in.

1141
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I was surprised. I don't know why this is.

1142
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: But you know, when you look at it back and

1143
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: you think, oh, they're this type of back, they're this

1144
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 2: type of back. I totally forgot. He's six one two twenty. Yes,

1145
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: like he's a little lanky, so you don't think of

1146
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: him being that vic yeah, but twenty like he doesn't

1147
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: look too twenty on it.

1148
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,959
Speaker 1: I'll say this too, though it the jury is still

1149
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: out on it. Because he had the opening game he

1150
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: thirty carries for a buck fifty nine. I mean he

1151
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: tore it up in Indianapolis, no question about it. But

1152
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: the next week it was nine for twenty five and

1153
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: then he got hurt.

1154
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 2: He's hurt, hurt, and he's not a spring chicken either. Like,

1155
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: let's not forget that. Yeah, ho old is he thirty

1156
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: thirty thirty one, twenty eight?

1157
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:21,959
Speaker 1: Oh, he's still young.

1158
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 4: He's still got her.

1159
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: This is right in the midst of it for him.

1160
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he's he's probably probably the oldest guy

1161
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 7: on that. Well Stephan's a couple of years old. But yeah,

1162
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 7: but he's been but you know what, he's been in

1163
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 7: big games before. I mean, yeah, he's been in some

1164
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 7: big so he brings the experience with all of this

1165
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 7: of Hey, I know what I'm talking about.

1166
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 4: I know what I'm doing.

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01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 7: I'm going to keep the energy in this SLocker room

1168
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 7: and especially on this side of the ball, I'm gonna keep.

1169
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 4: The energy there.

1170
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: How what was your philosophy because you, I mean I

1171
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: would used to go back and this after I finished playing,

1172
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: I would go back and watch some of the old games,

1173
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: and you took a pounding, like I forgot. What was

1174
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: your philosophy on how good you had to feel to

1175
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: be one hundred percent available on a Sunday, you know,

1176
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: because you're never one hundred percent and a guy like

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01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: Mixing coming back off an ankle, and I don't know

1178
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: if the guy can even walk let alone, you know,

1179
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: But did you have a how did you know whether, okay,

1180
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: I can.

1181
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 2: Where was the line where I'm out?

1182
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 7: You know what, as far as me, as far as

1183
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 7: I can go if I was able, I knew we

1184
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 7: had a great offensive line first of all, with Kid

1185
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 7: and all those.

1186
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 4: I can go through the line.

1187
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 7: Straight ahead and fall for three or four yards, so

1188
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 7: I didn't have to make a lot of shifty cuts

1189
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 7: or whatever. But when you're talking about a running back

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01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 7: having a a high ankle.

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01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 4: Spring man, yeah it. But his mentality always been like

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01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 4: north and South runner.

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01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 7: So I don't you see, I don't think you'll see

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01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 7: any like stretch plays for him anything.

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01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they run that wide zone. They run the

1196
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: wide zone with you know the Shanahan tree. Yeah, probably,

1197
01:01:58,680 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 2: Like is that harder to run?

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01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 4: Especially?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I don't know what ankle it is,

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01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 7: but I mean he will not he will not trust

1201
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 7: that ankle cutting back right off the bat.

1202
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 4: I've had a you know, did you out a tape

1203
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 4: around it, a lot of tape around it.

1204
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 2: But it's all feeling.

1205
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: What's the least amount of practice you go in a

1206
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: week and still play. I mean, I know Marv had

1207
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: his your stuff, Steve, you're talking, yeah, I mean like

1208
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: Mix is not practicing yesterday, he ain't practicing today. Fridays

1209
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: are like a walk through. Everybody can practice. Then what's

1210
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: your What do you think about not practicing?

1211
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, twenty eight years old, who cares? Right?

1212
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 4: I mean they really prove today, right, I mean you

1213
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 4: can take a couple of days off the week.

1214
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 7: I mean you you go in your Washington film and

1215
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 7: you're good to go.

1216
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: Sound like a bitter old man.

1217
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 4: No, I'm not a bitter hold man.

1218
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 7: But the way it was, yeah, I mean, yes, as

1219
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 7: long as you were in the building, you were going

1220
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 7: through the meetings, mental reps, everything.

1221
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 4: You're getting the treatment two or three times a day.

1222
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like you. I'm kind of feeling like

1223
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: that too. It's not like he was gone, right, he

1224
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: was just not taking physical reps on the field, in

1225
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: the meetings, watching film here in the conversation, taking part

1226
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: in the conversation, taking part.

1227
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 7: In the conversation having a back who was with him

1228
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 7: talking to him and telling them this this, this is

1229
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 7: your limit, this is what you can do.

1230
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: What is your I mean because it used to be

1231
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: you had to you know, you had to practice in

1232
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: order to play right and and not so much anymore,

1233
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: although there's a little bit of that right, there's a

1234
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: it's a two edged sword. You really don't need the

1235
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: guy to practice, but you don't want to have him

1236
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: just you know, get fat and happy during the week

1237
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 1: and then show up and not play gold.

1238
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 4: I think.

1239
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 7: I think it also too, is what team you're playing?

1240
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 7: Do we really need you or can we sit you

1241
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 7: out another week? And if I'm.

1242
01:03:55,520 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 4: Playing this week, I.

1243
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 7: I want to play after what Dereck Henry did last

1244
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 7: I want to play.

1245
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 4: And ankle's feeling a little bit.

1246
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 7: Better right now for Joe Mixon right now, because you know,

1247
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 7: they're at home and obviously it's a big game for them,

1248
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 7: and it looks like like him and Stefan Diggs are

1249
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 7: have really hit it off from what I've been seeing

1250
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 7: on some of their stories or whatever. So yeah, that

1251
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 7: ankle is really really feeling better now that I saw

1252
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 7: what Dereck Henry did to the Bills last month.

1253
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, why don't we talk about that a little bit?

1254
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 2: Because even the well the players admitted after the game,

1255
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 2: you know, we didn't have the same edge or sense

1256
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 2: of urgency that the Ravens did. Anybody that was watching

1257
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 2: any part of that game could have figured that one out.

1258
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 2: But how does that how does that situation kind of

1259
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 2: manifest itself in the first place, because I think for

1260
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 2: a lot of fans, it's hard to understand. It's like,

1261
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 2: you're a three and zero football team. You got a

1262
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 2: big match up against another AFC powerhouse, it's prime time.

1263
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 2: How are you not up and juice and bringing the

1264
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: edge to a game like that? How does I think

1265
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 2: they were?

1266
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean if they were ten, Baltimore was a

1267
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 7: twenty okay, I mean they're they're one and two. They're like,

1268
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 7: if we go one and three, we are and we're

1269
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 7: at home, we have to win this football game. And

1270
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 7: I think with the Bills, the mentality was that, oh, yeah, okay,

1271
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 7: we're three and zero, we're a good football team.

1272
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 4: Everybody's picking us.

1273
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 7: Whoa Josh Allen MVP, and we're one of the better

1274
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 7: teams in the league. It was just one of those

1275
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 7: deals where you just go out, you feel good about it,

1276
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,919
Speaker 7: and boom, you just get knocked in the mouth running.

1277
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 7: It was like a Kansas City or Pittsburgh Monday night.

1278
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 4: We've had a bunch of those, you know the exactly.

1279
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,439
Speaker 4: It just doesn't I mean, it's one game. Yeah, it's

1280
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 4: one day.

1281
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 7: But now teams will be like, oh, but now we

1282
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 7: got kind of a blueprint for that.

1283
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: Well you know what, not so much.

1284
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 4: Not so much. I don't think it is. It's just

1285
01:05:59,000 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 4: a one time game.

1286
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just here you go through this that we

1287
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 2: were talking about it. Baltimore is kind of an outlier

1288
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 2: in terms of their offense. It's not like you know

1289
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 2: what I mean, It's not like a lot of other

1290
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 2: offenses you're going to see.

1291
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 4: In this line.

1292
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 7: I have many things, I mean them and San Francisco

1293
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 7: will probably have a fullback that run more plays than

1294
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 7: most running backs.

1295
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: Probably right, a three hundred pounds fullback. I think one

1296
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: of the things too, is when you get when you're

1297
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: out there and you and you feel like you're ready

1298
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: or ready and this other team comes out just off

1299
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: their rocker like like that, you feel like, okay, let's

1300
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: let's gather up low. We got to do this now, right.

1301
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: It takes you a minute to get a collective gathering

1302
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: of your thoughts and say, listen, here, these guys are

1303
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: really bringing it. Let's go. And not only do you

1304
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: have to get yours on track, but you have to

1305
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: derail theirs right and if they keep having success, there's

1306
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: no derailing it right. It takes it takes them to

1307
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: almost stop and take a breath after the adrenalines popped

1308
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: off for you to get back in the game, which

1309
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: is kind of what happened to the Bills. They kind

1310
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: of they got to twenty one to ten, it's like, okay,

1311
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: we got a chance, a chance. Then the trick play

1312
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: goes backwards. It was catastrophic. The only way it could

1313
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: have been worse. They scored right then on that play

1314
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: instead of just taking it down and scoring after a

1315
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: couple of plays. But you turn the ball over in

1316
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: a play where you finally got some momentum, then you're

1317
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: back in. You know, you got the shovel in your hand.

1318
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: You're digging a deeper hole. Of those nights, it was

1319
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: just one of those nights.

1320
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 4: It's just one of those nights.

1321
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: It's the same. You think back of that Kansas City

1322
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: Monday night game.

1323
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 4: Now Baltimore and leg this week, right or whatever?

1324
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 7: Who they I don't even know who they play, but Cincinnati, Cincinnati,

1325
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 7: they're backs against the wall too, right, Yeah?

1326
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 2: They won and three?

1327
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 4: Who won in three?

1328
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 7: So you think who's right exactly?

1329
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 8: I mean it's I mean, this lead here is so

1330
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 8: difficult to figure out until week sixteen. Yeah, it really

1331
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 8: is so difficult to figure out until week sixteen.

1332
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 4: And that's why this is the most watched. Yeah.

1333
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So let's so let's look at this

1334
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: week's game and talk some player availability here. We already

1335
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 2: know Vaughn is not going to be available this week,

1336
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 2: for the next three games after that, Khalil Shakir not

1337
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 2: practicing again today. If he is out of the mix,

1338
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 2: who can you see kind of helping to fill the

1339
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 2: void there? That doesn't have to necessarily be one specific guy,

1340
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 2: But how do you see the slack getting picked up

1341
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 2: if Shakir, you know, is not available Sunday, knowing he

1342
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 2: has been the number one target again.

1343
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 4: Well, there's two options.

1344
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 7: Okay, first option, we see Superman seventeen take over the

1345
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 7: entire game.

1346
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 4: Okay, that's one option.

1347
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 2: Which is a distinct possibility, which is a very good possibility.

1348
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 7: Or we see Ray Davis and James Cook take over

1349
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 7: the football game, Okay, and anywhere from that range of

1350
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 7: I would I would even give it twenty five to

1351
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 7: thirty Carris between those, I mean the running game having

1352
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 7: over two hundred yards, That's what I would do.

1353
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 4: I mean, that would be my other option. Right.

1354
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: So, yeah, we were I.

1355
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 4: Think Houston is that good against the run.

1356
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 2: Twenty fifth in the league yards per carry against. They're

1357
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 2: even have four point seven per carry.

1358
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 1: You know, we were chuckling amongst ourselves, Brownie and I

1359
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: about you know, Josh going into Houston with Steph Diggs

1360
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 1: on the other side and like sugar high Josh coming out,

1361
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: you know, like peeling him off the seat line like

1362
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 1: we used to do.

1363
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna show you.

1364
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna lift the stadiumness, you know

1365
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: with Yeah, I.

1366
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 4: Can hurt the Texas.

1367
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: Yeah it could, and it can also sabolage us.

1368
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 7: I was in Houston last week for my for the

1369
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 7: high school reunion. Oh yeah, and there were there were

1370
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 7: actually a couple of people they came up to me

1371
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 7: and said, you know, it seems to me that they're

1372
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:56,480
Speaker 7: forcing the ball to digs.

1373
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, well, it's kind of okay, that's

1374
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 4: what and whatever.

1375
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 7: But like after that, two and three people came up

1376
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 7: into me and said that and Tank Bell had Tank

1377
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,719
Speaker 7: Bellan Dell, Tank.

1378
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 4: Dell and Nico. But Nico had a great game last.

1379
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 2: Week, right, He's got a hundred more yards than anybody

1380
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: in the league.

1381
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 4: In the league. Yeah, so I've heard that like before

1382
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:17,879
Speaker 4: this game.

1383
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 7: Like the the week before, I heard that, man, and

1384
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 7: it look, I love Steph when he was here. I

1385
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 7: I when they when they got stuff here, I was like,

1386
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 7: oh my god, yes, we gotta go, we gotta we

1387
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 7: got a top rated receiver here. And you know, the

1388
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 7: first image when he when they traded him, the first

1389
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 7: image that came to mind was him standing there in

1390
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 7: Kansas City watching them and I think they won a

1391
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 7: FC championship. Remember that picture he was sitting there on

1392
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 7: the field. I was like, you know what, hands on.

1393
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 7: I was like, you know what, even the four years,

1394
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 7: that's the one picture I remember, and and I think

1395
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 7: that guy laid it on the line. Sure the last

1396
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 7: couple of years, the playoff numbers weren't there, but you

1397
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 7: know what, neither was Gabe Davis. Neither were a couple

1398
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 7: other guys over there, and he was and he was

1399
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 7: that guy. So I mean it was it was a

1400
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 7: lot of pressure. I think it was a lot of

1401
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 7: pressure on him and John to try to connect more

1402
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 7: and it just wasn't there. Yeah, it just wasn't there.

1403
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 4: You know.

1404
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 7: So that picture and obviously the people everybody's been talking

1405
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 7: about the the misg dropping in Kansas.

1406
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 4: City or whatever. But you know what, I hey, I

1407
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 4: give it.

1408
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 7: I gave you four great years of them two really

1409
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 7: connected and really putting Josh and them on the map really.

1410
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 4: For four years.

1411
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 2: And here's your here's your throw.

1412
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 4: Yeah there's a throw, I mean.

1413
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 2: Right there, sixty yards in the air, right on the money.

1414
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 4: Right on the money, right on the money.

1415
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: Well yeah, we all sit here and stun silence. We watched.

1416
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 2: And it's going like this. He's like just this.

1417
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1418
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, it's right there.

1419
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, it's right there. But you know what it happens.

1420
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 2: Man. His last touchdown for the Bills was against the

1421
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 2: Eagles in the overtime loss in Week twelve. That was

1422
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 2: as touchdown score. It's gonna be very interesting to see

1423
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 2: if he has a similar drop off in Houston come

1424
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 2: the second half of the season, because I think the

1425
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 2: last two years in a Bill's uniform, his ability to

1426
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 2: separate I think dropped off. And you know, he practices

1427
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 2: so hard every day, tired legs, tired legs, and and

1428
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,600
Speaker 2: just my personal opinion, I think he's too proud to

1429
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 2: practice any other way. So here he is practicing hard.

1430
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: And this is a guy that was still taking vet

1431
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: days here his last two years and still could not

1432
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: get through. I just as a thirty year old with

1433
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 2: as hard as he practices, I just don't think he

1434
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: can get through a seventeen game season anymore and give

1435
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,759
Speaker 2: you everything he gives you in the first eight games.

1436
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 2: He gets to the second eight games, I think, I.

1437
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 4: Think, I think he can do it. I think he'll

1438
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 4: do I think he'll do it. This is season.

1439
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 2: Doesn't have to be he doesn't have to be the one.

1440
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 7: He doesn't have to be the one. And I'm sure, hey,

1441
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 7: look I've had conversation with me, right, I love the guy,

1442
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 7: and he would tell him, hey, bro, settle it down

1443
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 7: a little bit.

1444
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, cut it down a little bit.

1445
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 7: You don't have to go that hard every day every

1446
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 7: play cut it down a little bit.

1447
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 4: So, yeah, I think I think it's a perfect thing.

1448
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 7: I know he's only there for a one year contract, right,

1449
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 7: I'm assuming, but I think the numbers will He won't

1450
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 7: be the leading receiver right because of he won't be

1451
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 7: the cause.

1452
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 4: But I think he'll put up at the end of

1453
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 4: the year. I think you'll have some numbers.

1454
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: Hey man, he can catch ten touchdowns this Sunday. As

1455
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: long as they don't win. I don't care, you know,

1456
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: I mean not.

1457
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 2: Be a heck of a final.

1458
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: I do not I do not seventy. I do not

1459
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: care about that. Yeah, I do not care about that. Yeah,

1460
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: I want I want us to win.

1461
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 4: I care about care about Gosh, he can have a

1462
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 4: good game. I don't care.

1463
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: I don't care.

1464
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 4: That's right as we win.

1465
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: I care about Josh Coleman and Khalil and you know

1466
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: Cook and all those guys. Those are the guys I

1467
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 1: care about.

1468
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 2: Quickly before we run out of time here, Thuram, what

1469
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 2: are you seeing with Ray right now? Because if you

1470
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 2: look at his college tape and then how he's had

1471
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 2: some and look, I know his carries have been few

1472
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 2: and far between, usually at the end of games. So

1473
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 2: maybe that's hard to jumping into a game cold at

1474
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,799
Speaker 2: the end and trying to you know, pick your spots

1475
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 2: and find your holes. But it just seems like he's

1476
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 2: more tentative than his college tape appears. He seems like

1477
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 2: a very decisive runner with good vision if you look

1478
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 2: at his college tape, and I don't know that we've

1479
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 2: seen that from Ray just yet. And I'm wondering what

1480
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 2: could be at play there as to why he seems

1481
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 2: a little tentative to trust it, do you know what

1482
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 2: I mean? Trust his instincts?

1483
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 7: Well, I think you know, you're at Kentucky and you're

1484
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 7: pretty much the man. Yeah, and you're here Cook is

1485
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 7: a man.

1486
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1487
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 7: I think there is some type of learning experience that

1488
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 7: you have to go to that he has to step

1489
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 7: back and be like, you know what am I trying

1490
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 7: to do too much?

1491
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 4: Do I need to do this? Or what do I

1492
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 4: need to do that?

1493
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 7: I think with him obviously first year guy, but I

1494
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 7: think he'll come along.

1495
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 4: This is just kind of a learning period process for him.

1496
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 7: And you know, I mean it was kind of with

1497
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 7: that way with James Cook, you know, kind of learned, learned,

1498
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,759
Speaker 7: then found out how to practice, how to play. And

1499
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 7: you know, first Carry was a farmle and he's he's

1500
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 7: learned from that. And I don't think that's the problem

1501
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 7: with Ray. I just think that you know what, if

1502
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 7: I'm lucky to get five plays, I'm gonna get five plays,

1503
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 7: right because Cook is Cook is the main guy, so

1504
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 7: and he wants to be perfect and he don't want

1505
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 7: to farmal.

1506
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 4: He don't want to miss an assignment. You know what.

1507
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 7: You gotta let the game come to you, man, and

1508
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 7: and just be yourself.

1509
01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 2: So I will say I like his blitz pick up.

1510
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 2: You see that one against the.

1511
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 4: Jackson took two guys out of one and two guys

1512
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 4: out of one.

1513
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 7: I'm telling you so I think, you know, from now

1514
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 7: until the end of the season, I think he'll get

1515
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 7: better and better better.

1516
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: I think reps and experience and he gets he'll gain

1517
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: confidence with this, like even a blitz pick up like

1518
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: the one he mentions like, he'll get some pats on

1519
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: the back for that and film, you know, I mean we.

1520
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 2: Had him in here a couple of times. Great, dude, Yeah,

1521
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 2: so it Yeah, I think just some mixt for extra

1522
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 2: reps and that'll come with time.

1523
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I had a chance to meet him a

1524
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago out of here for the huddle

1525
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 4: for Hunger Hunter.

1526
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 7: And guess what we mentioned, Like, oh, Man, you know,

1527
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 7: he just told me to watch your tapes. Vince Marrow,

1528
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 7: remember Ben, he was at Kentucky coaches at Kentucky.

1529
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, oh yeah, all right, good stuff.

1530
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: All right, thanks very much for popping in. Good to

1531
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 2: see you. Hopefully we're all celebrating a victory on Monday.

1532
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: We better be all right.

1533
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 2: That's a Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas joining us here

1534
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 2: in studio and we'll take a break. Be back with more,

1535
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 2: including your phone calls. Here on One Bill's Live, presented

1536
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 2: by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, time

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Speaker 2: for this week's Collision Course, brought to you by Gabes Collision.

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Speaker 2: Gabes Collision, the official auto collision repair center of the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. Get Back in the game, and the Collision

1540
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:40,839
Speaker 2: course is Houston's pass defense against Buffalo's passing game. Houston's

1541
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 2: pass defense has been among the best in the league

1542
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 2: so far, allowing the lowest completion percentage opposing quarterbacks completing

1543
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 2: just fifty seven and a half percent of their passes.

1544
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 2: They're also fifth in passing yards allowed at just one

1545
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty one per game. So I will say

1546
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 2: if you look at their schedule, they played Anthony Richardson,

1547
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams got eaten alive by Sam Donald, and then

1548
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, who has been struggling. So two rookie quarterbacks,

1549
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 2: a struggling quarterback, and a resurgent quarterback. So I take

1550
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 2: that those numbers with a little bit of a grain

1551
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 2: of salt.

1552
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: Here Donald lit them up.

1553
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh they outclassed the Texans thirty four to seven. Yeah,

1554
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 2: but it's going to be a challenge for the Bills,

1555
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 2: especially if Shakier's not part of the mix.

1556
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 1: That's right. I just got a text from a guy

1557
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 1: that supposed to be really really hot in Houston on

1558
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: Sunday night, forecast ninety six. Feel like because they.

1559
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 2: Can't because of the ammidity. Hot, but the roof will

1560
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 2: be closed. It'll be climate controlled. Yeah, maybe it will be.

1561
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 2: No worries, man, no worries.

1562
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:48,799
Speaker 1: What if they don't close it until.

1563
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 2: Like'll they close it every week? Well?

1564
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 1: I know they do, but I'm just saying, what if

1565
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 1: they don't. If they don't open it or if they

1566
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 1: close it and it takes forever for it to cool

1567
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: down in there.

1568
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think they ever open it, at

1569
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 2: least most of the time. I mean, it's been closed

1570
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 2: for the most part on a permanent basis. I mean,

1571
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 2: I'll check it out, but yeah, the roof of Energy

1572
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 2: is rarely opened during a Texans game. This was a

1573
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 2: report all the way back in twenty twenty one about

1574
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 2: this where it basically says they had a six year

1575
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 2: gap between the time the roof was originally opened to

1576
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 2: the time it was next opened back in twenty twenty

1577
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 2: and the team claims keeping the roof closed helps with

1578
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 2: crowd noise deafening the opponent into submission.

1579
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: So what's the real reason.

1580
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 2: I think the only time the roof has ever open

1581
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 2: is when they have night games because it's too hot

1582
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 2: for the fans it.

1583
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be. And I think too the they

1584
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 1: got to open it at some point so the sunshine

1585
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: will get in there. So because the grass has got

1586
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: to grow. Isn't it a natural surface?

1587
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 2: I think it is. I gotta check. I'm not one

1588
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 2: hundred percent sure, because a lot of these places change

1589
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 2: all the time.

1590
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's true anymore, and it is.

1591
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 2: The roof is somewhat translucent because it's it's white, so

1592
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 2: we'll have to see. But yeah, I mean you don't

1593
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 2: have Shakir. That is gonna make it tricky, you know,

1594
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 2: because you've got to rely on other people maybe a

1595
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 2: little bit more. We're assuming if Shakir can't go, we're

1596
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 2: looking at Curtis Samuel probably in the slot a good deal.

1597
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 2: Kincaid work in the middle of the field becomes more important,

1598
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 2: and Keon Coleman's probably getting more snaps because everybody kind

1599
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 2: of rotates up. So that's that's the rub, and you know,

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01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 2: the corner is on the outside for the Texans are

1601
01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: really good like Stingley, Wammi Lassiter, big physical corners you

1602
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 2: know you may want to and then they have their safety.

1603
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 2: Jalen Petrie, he plays nickel. He's actually a former college

1604
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 2: teammate of Terrell Bernard at Baylor, and Bernard was saying, oh, yeah,

1605
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 2: he did all of that when he was at Baylor too,

1606
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 2: played nickel, played the deep half. He's a very very

1607
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 2: versatile defensive back. So Peetree's a problem in the slot too.

1608
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 2: So they have good cover players, so they're gonna Bill's

1609
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,759
Speaker 2: receiving cores is gonna have to be on it this week.

1610
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 2: If they're gonna make plays.

1611
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are. And it's listen that they're a playoff

1612
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: team from a year ago. They're gonna be on it.

1613
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna be cooking. The Bills need to need this

1614
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: game as well. This is a they're gonna be in

1615
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: the midst of a three game roads road trip. They

1616
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,839
Speaker 1: can't go zero to three in this three game strip.

1617
01:21:53,360 --> 01:22:00,080
Speaker 1: Uh three game road streak. Houston Texans. You would like

1618
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 1: to think, except for the Minnesota Vikings, that they haven't

1619
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 1: played anybody in the one team they did play that

1620
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 1: was good. With the Vikings that lumped them up, we'll

1621
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: see where they measure up. But the Bills, because we've

1622
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: got a history behind it, we feel like the Bills

1623
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: are a good team and they had an off night.

1624
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: You know, did did the Texans have an off night?

1625
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see.

1626
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 2: Incidentally, it's artificial turf.

1627
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 1: Used to be grass.

1628
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 2: Change it to turf, probably because the roof is closed

1629
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 2: so much they can't grow they grow the grass.

1630
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: So there.

1631
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 2: We pivot from collision course to tailgate Friday on a Thursday,

1632
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 2: presented by high Mark, Blue Cross Blue Shield. High Mark

1633
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 2: is the official healthcare plan of the Buffalo Bills, because life.

1634
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 2: So let's see what you guys have on the menu

1635
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 2: this week, and Jack says, going to a buddy's house

1636
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:57,480
Speaker 2: in cheek Dewoga for this one. Trying for a meatless October,

1637
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,480
Speaker 2: so to keep it vegetarian, I'm making these stuffed jalapeno

1638
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 2: poppers and also roasted habanero salsa, both with peppers from

1639
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 2: my garden. Go Bills, It's time for Coleman to mass

1640
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 2: a dude, Let's go. William says, spending the day with

1641
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 2: my eighty three year old dad who had life saving

1642
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 2: emergency surgery this Paast weekend, so won't get to watch

1643
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 2: missed Sunday night's game as well. They don't have a

1644
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 2: TV on in the hospital room. Come on, they gotta have.

1645
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 2: I hope they've got a TV somewhere. Otherwise, put the

1646
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 2: bills up on your phone and listen to the radio broadcast.

1647
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 2: My man. Just listen to it that way. I used

1648
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 2: to listen to hockey games on the radio with my

1649
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 2: dad in the living room because we didn't have cable

1650
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 2: TV in my house. I can't tell you how many

1651
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 2: games I listened to on the radio like that. Bob says,

1652
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 2: I have to go to a nephew's stinking eighth birthday party?

1653
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 2: Who does that? Say? Now, Bob, you should have called

1654
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 2: us on the PEPSI Relationship Hotline. We could have come

1655
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 2: up with a salution for you.

1656
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: I said, tell you too, But why is your eight

1657
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 1: year old not a Bills fan?

1658
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if it's his nephews.

1659
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: Why is your nephew not a Bills fan?

1660
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: So he said, I have to go to a nephew

1661
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: stinking eighth b day party? Who does that? I am

1662
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 2: a watch at home by myself kind of guy. I

1663
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 2: have an outside TV for when the weather is nice.

1664
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: And this is too, only one of like two one

1665
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 2: pm games left. I'm mad.

1666
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, you're gonna you're missing, But if listen,

1667
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,879
Speaker 1: I have hard time. If the kid's a local kid

1668
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, they're gonna have the game on. And

1669
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: you can do that for your nephew. You don't have

1670
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 1: to be by yourself in a room. Yeah, watch the

1671
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 1: game with your nephew, but you should be watching the game.

1672
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 2: And so what you have to do, because this is

1673
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 2: what we do on the relationship highline, and that's where

1674
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 2: you should have reached out to us. But we'll help you.

1675
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 2: Now anyway, you have to have a plan. So you

1676
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:55,759
Speaker 2: need to make a preemptive phone call two the hosts

1677
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 2: of said party, presumably your sister or your brother and

1678
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 2: so sister in law or your sister and brother in

1679
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 2: law since it's your nephew, and say, hey, you are

1680
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 2: going to have the game on somewhere, right, It's going

1681
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 2: to be on a television screen somewhere in the house

1682
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,680
Speaker 2: or at the party venue. That's right, because because if not,

1683
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 2: it's going to be on my phone.

1684
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 1: Right. If not, yeah, that's a problem for everybody. So yeah,

1685
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: that's the only thing you got to know is and

1686
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 1: if if they are going to have the game on,

1687
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 1: then don't complain about your nephew turn eight. Just go

1688
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: be there, be there for him, have fun, but watch

1689
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: the game and it'll be fine. We can all do

1690
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: that for the for the people we love. But I

1691
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: get it. You couldn't make the party it.

1692
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 2: Like four, yeah, or even three? What happened to be

1693
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 2: pushing it four?

1694
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 4: You know?

1695
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's got to be like the parties like

1696
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 1: for what one to three one to you? I mean,

1697
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 1: and if they do make the.

1698
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 2: Part of the whole thing is who does that?

1699
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: Who does that?

1700
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 4: Right?

1701
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: And here's the thing too, if you're gonna have a

1702
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: if you're having a birthday party right at an eighth

1703
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: birthday party, right at game time, isn't the game the

1704
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 1: point of the party?

1705
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 4: Right?

1706
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 1: If the kid was twenty, it'd be a watch party.

1707
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: Let's go eight. Okay, you got some you know it

1708
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: is the same thing. What is he raised by wolves?

1709
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm teasing you know, right, I mean, doesn't that have

1710
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,440
Speaker 1: to be that like the point of the party. Yeah,

1711
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: we're having we're having to party at the house for

1712
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 1: my birthday. We're gonna watch the game.

1713
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 2: Right, I'd go along with that. I'd be totally fine.

1714
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: Now, if his complaint is only that he has to

1715
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 1: watch it with another human being other than himself, that

1716
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: might be you. Yeah, you can might be a you problem. Yeah,

1717
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:47,759
Speaker 1: not a who does that problem?

1718
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 2: Can't go with the hermit mentality?

1719
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 1: Yeah you gotta yeah, you gotta be. You know, the

1720
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,640
Speaker 1: mafia is all about family, so you gotta get your

1721
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 1: marms around that.

1722
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 2: The best of luck.

1723
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely pulling that off.

1724
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 2: We have to take a break here because we're up

1725
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 2: against it. Back with a final segment. Might have chance

1726
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 2: for a fan mail bag question when we return here

1727
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live. Stay with us. All right back

1728
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

1729
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 2: and in re examining the Amari Cooper contract, because we

1730
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 2: had a caller Kevin earlier asking about would Cooper be

1731
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 2: a trade candidate. He'd be a much more viable one

1732
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 2: in terms of the money you would have to put

1733
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 2: on your cap, because in an effort to trade Cooper

1734
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 2: earlier in the season, they converted almost all of his

1735
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 2: salary into signing bonus. So he is an affordable trade

1736
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 2: candidate for an interested party. So come to deadline, he'd

1737
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 2: only hit your like six hundred k on your cap,

1738
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 2: and he's in the last year of his contract. The

1739
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 2: team that would pay the price of the Browns with

1740
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 2: all the voidable years the dead cap.

1741
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 1: That's why they put the voidable years in there so you.

1742
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 2: Get out of it so they can spread it out.

1743
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: There.

1744
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, so Cooper would be an option.

1745
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 1: He's the best, He's a better option financially.

1746
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 2: And I think he's a year younger, maybe two then

1747
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 2: I think he's only thirty. Yeah, so DeVante Adams is

1748
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 2: thirty one, soon to turn thirty two, so and exponentially

1749
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 2: more expensive, so because he just signed that mega extension

1750
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 2: with the Raiders a couple of years ago. So so yeah,

1751
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 2: Cooper's an option, and you know, you'd see but I

1752
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 2: think they'd like to see a little bit more of

1753
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 2: the season unfold because really the general consensus, if you

1754
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 2: ask most gms around the league, you really don't know

1755
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 2: what you have until you get to about week six,

1756
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 2: week seven of the season anyway, which is probably part

1757
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 2: of the reason why they pushed to move move the

1758
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 2: deadline back to the first week in November, because by

1759
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 2: then you got to handle on who you are and

1760
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 2: what you've got.

1761
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also not for nothing, you got to handle

1762
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 1: on the other guys too.

1763
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the other teams are competing with right right, so.

1764
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: It becomes more everybody knows the score kind of a thing.

1765
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get it, and they'll get what they want.

1766
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 1: I mean, if they want to move that deadline back,

1767
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:27,560
Speaker 1: they will.

1768
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's November fifth this year. It used to

1769
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 2: be Halloween weekend, so they moved it back a week

1770
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 2: and you know, the pro rated money you inherit is

1771
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 2: one week less as well, so the cap it's even

1772
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 2: less for whatever player might acquire. We have no show tomorrow.

1773
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 2: This is it for us this week because it's Saber

1774
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 2: season opener tomorrow at one, so we're off the air.

1775
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 2: We'll catch you on Monday to talk Bill's Texans at

1776
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 2: noon