1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to another edition of Cardinal Territory. 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Jim Hayes alongside Lance Lynn and Michael McGreevy kind enough 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: to join us for this edition. Before we get started, gentlemen, 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: and Lance knows this, we always have the request. We 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: want you to subscribe to Cardinal Territory, So if you 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: don't mind, go ahead, reach out hit the subscribe button. 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: Now. They told us to get to five thousand. We 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: blew that number away. Now they want us to get 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: to seven thousand. 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: So if you like Cardinal Territory, please hit that subscribe button. 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Head back to the show, Lance, Jim, and Michael McGreevy. Michael, 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: Welcome. 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: Before we get started, I guess congratulations are in order 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: because you just got engaged to your fiance, Dominique. So 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: tell me how that happened, give us backstory, share the rolemates. 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: I won't share too much, Jim, but it seemed like 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: this was the off season that every Cardinal player got engaged. 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: So every time a new guy would get engaged in 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: Victor Scott, Gordon, Grisefo, Mason Wynn, my girlfriend now fiance 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: would just be looking at me. I'd get that side 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: eye when she's looking on Instagram and I'm like, oh, 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: you see that too, and she said, yep, I saw that, 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: So I felt I felt just so happy to be 25 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: able to do it and just get a little bit 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: of weight off my back. But it was I was 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: so happy to do it. I got a photographer to 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: reach out to her and kind of lying away and say, hey, 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: I need a last minute model for a photo shoot 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 3: down on the beach in Encinitas. Would you be willing 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 3: to do it? So her hair, makeup and nails were 32 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: all done. Photographer texting me about fifteen minutes into their 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: little fake shoot and I stuck up behind her and proposed, 34 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 3: and thankfully she said yes. I think it was a 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 3: pretty surefire thing, but still had a little bit of 36 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: nerves that I know was still a possibility. 37 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: What a story, congreg Lance, do you feel at. 38 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 4: Hey? 39 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 5: That was? 40 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 4: That was a great move. 41 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 6: You know where you can sneak it in because they 42 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 6: always feel like they know when it's coming. So there's 43 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 6: no way she saw that one coming. And you guys 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 6: have to realize they're all of the of the age 45 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 6: to where that's what happens. 46 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 4: When you're doing a build, right everybody is the same. 47 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 6: Age, so you guys are all going to get engaged together, 48 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 6: get married at the same time, and that's when the 49 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 6: pressure gets on. Then it's like, Okay, who's gonna be 50 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 6: the first one to have kids? And then it's just 51 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 6: a it's just a snowball effect, especially you know, at 52 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 6: that age. 53 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: So I bet no one, no one was expecting Mason 54 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 3: to be the first guy this offseason. At least I 55 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: think he was the first guy. So you kind of 56 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 3: uh got the snowball rolling and everything like that, and 57 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: now it's just a matter of time before Jordan Walker 58 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 3: does this. Well, I think. 59 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: See Mason's the leader of that team. I'm telling you, 60 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: Mason's the leader. 61 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he goes, we go. 62 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 4: Off betting, lead off, the line, play shortstop, he's your guy. 63 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 64 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: I liked it. I liked it all right. 65 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: I don't want to get Michael in trouble with right 66 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 4: his lineup. Ollie, bet Mason leadoff. Let him let him go. 67 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: You know, he played to a bag bee all the 68 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: last year. It's better now. I think he'd make an 69 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: ideal leadoff guy. People don't realize what he went through. 70 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: I remember, like a few weeks into the season said 71 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: my knee is jacked up, and he went on camera 72 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: and he talked about it. 73 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: Then it all came out. 74 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: But but that guy still had a great season sort 75 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: of coming out part, and he did it up with 76 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: one wheel, right. 77 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: Michael, Yeah, it was absolutely incredible. Like we always he's 78 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: always played, been the guy to play. Every day he's 79 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: doing on both sides of the ball, so the body's 80 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: always banged up, and especially being so young and just 81 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: doing so much when the body's like whoa, Like what 82 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: are we doing here? And when I got recalled for 83 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: good and just seeing the day to day of him 84 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: in the training room getting treatment done for his body 85 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: and what he needed to do just to even play 86 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: the game and to still perform at a high level. 87 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: And when the gold glove was nothing short of incredible. 88 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 6: What you got, lad, I'm with you when when I 89 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 6: was with him, as you guys know, the way his 90 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 6: he's a very emotional player. So it's fun to watch 91 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 6: him play because he brings that ascitement when you get going. 92 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 6: That's why I say you put him at lead off 93 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 6: and let him do his thing, because he can really. 94 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 4: Bring a lot of energy to a lineup and a. 95 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 6: Team but also when he's not going well at the plate, 96 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 6: when he has his days, he wants nothing better to 97 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 6: just steal a hit from the other team because that 98 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 6: just says, all right, I got you back. Get a 99 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 6: bunch of dickheads for getting me out all day. So 100 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 6: that's the beauty of may In. The way he plays 101 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 6: is he plays emotional, but he turns it into something 102 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 6: positive even if he's. 103 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: Not doing well on the offensive side of the ball. 104 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 4: So that's why I have a lot of respect for him. 105 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: I know, pictures love having a guy like Mason Win 106 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: backing them up. So last year, Michael eight and four 107 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: record Era four point four two, you got a taste 108 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: the year before when you were teammates with the great Lanceling. 109 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: What do you take away from. 110 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: Last year that will help you as you get ready 111 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: for the season ahead. 112 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was an absolutely crazy year, you know, expecting 113 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 3: to make the team out of camp to getting sent 114 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 3: down as the depth guy down in Memphis and then 115 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 3: getting recalled for good. I'm always built and ready to 116 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: go for as many innings as I can. I always 117 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 3: try to, at least lately, I've been around one hundred 118 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: and seventy per season. I only want to throw more 119 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: so the body's built up ready to go. But the 120 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 3: five day rotation of the big leagues is no joke. 121 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: You see that once every four weeks. In Triple A, 122 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: we're going to two Tuesday Sunday. You have that Monday 123 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: off day to rest. But in the big leagues you 124 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,559 Speaker 3: don't really get that. You get a random off day 125 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: every two weeks. So that last game in Wrigley, when 126 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: I got taken out of the game, my body fell. 127 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 3: I got nothing left. And taking that in for next year, 128 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: knowing that it's a very grueling season with hopefully thirty 129 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: plus games to pitch, I want to make sure my 130 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 3: body's in the right spot, in the right place to 131 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: be able to handle all thirty plus and hopefully pitch 132 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: in October. 133 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 6: Very nice, Hey, and you're talking about thirty plus starts 134 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 6: in a big league season, yet you're going to have 135 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 6: your I think every other start or. 136 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 4: Maybe every third start. 137 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 6: You got to go on normal probably give or take, 138 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 6: unless there's a makeup something like that. So what are 139 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 6: the changes or what are some things you might have 140 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 6: implemented this offseason to say, hey, when I'm at the 141 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 6: end of the season, hopefully making a playoff push or 142 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 6: something like that. I still have what I need as 143 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 6: a year goes on, because, like you said, the time 144 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 6: or the it's time in between starts a little different 145 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,119 Speaker 6: in Triple A. So is there something you've thought about 146 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 6: that's going to help you throughout this season? 147 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, So down in Triple A, I had a very 148 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: good routine. I knew all the clubhouse guys, Me and 149 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: Bja and Darwin were super close. So whatever I needed, 150 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: I was basically able to get. And so if I 151 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: needed to get to the field two hours before clubhouse open, 152 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: they let me. And in the big leagues like I'm 153 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: on a new schedule, I'm the young guy. I don't 154 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: even have a full year yet, and I don't want 155 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: to step on any anyone's toes. And so when clubhouse opens, 156 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: that's when I get there. But I only have X 157 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: amount of time to get what I need to do. 158 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: So talking with Dusty, talking with Ali, hopefully talking to 159 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: the clubhouse staff, getting maybe setting up a routine to 160 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: where hey, like I won't bother anybody, but I kind 161 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: of need to get in early to get everything I 162 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: need to do. I like to run before the game 163 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: really just kind of build up some endurance in Samona, 164 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: to make sure my legs are under me, whether it's 165 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: a hot day or whether it's starting number thirty towards 166 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: the end of the year. It's making sure that the 167 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: body is prepped and ready to go. When we're not 168 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: just like, Okay, we have an hour to get going, 169 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: let's just do what we can. It's making sure that 170 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: every day is tackled with the utmost intensity to get 171 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: the body ready to go. 172 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: So the year before last, you were up a little 173 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: bit and you were teammates with Lancelin, who is a 174 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: it's a big presence. What's that like being in the 175 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: clubhouse with a guy like lancelint. 176 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: Pretty sure lance was dinged up when I got a 177 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: when I got. 178 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 4: One leg walking around so he could take me. 179 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: Then in the training room, I was I was just 180 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: trying to find out where the bathrooms were in the 181 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: clubhouse because I had only been there once in July 182 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: before the trade deadline. So I can't I can't say 183 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: too much. I mean, it was nice hang out with 184 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: him in spring. Was able to ask him a few 185 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: questions shagging VP out at Roger Dean and stuff. But 186 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: anytime you have a vet like that in the clubhouse 187 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: where you could just lean on or just ask questions, 188 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: or just watch how they go about their business, watch 189 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: how they handle and treat the game. For how long 190 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: they did it. It's definitely awesome to see. 191 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think you got when you first got 192 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 4: called up. 193 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 6: You pitched the day after me against the Rangers, right, 194 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 6: So I think I was in an MRI machine because 195 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 6: that's when everything broke. And then when he got when 196 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 6: you came back up the next time, you took my spot. 197 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 6: When I went back on the I l and you 198 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 6: guys went on a road trip. 199 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Sonny. Sonny likes to give me crap about it. 200 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, grievy. I you know, I was hurting, 201 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: so I shut myself down. You're welcome for the extra spot. 202 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 3: So I'm like, oh, thanks, Tony. 203 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 6: Really, I think that might have been more me because 204 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 6: I shut down first, but it was, you know, it 205 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 6: worked out well for you. I mean, he got his 206 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 6: most most days in a row at that point at 207 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 6: that time because they were just saying, hey, we need 208 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 6: you for a day, we need you for a day. 209 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 6: It was on the the shuffle, as they call it, 210 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 6: the shuttle up and down from this so that's a 211 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 6: tough gig. But what are some thoughts of people don't realize, Like, hey, 212 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 6: when I come up for a day and all that, 213 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 6: there's really no to find your routine, your rhythm, whether 214 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 6: it's getting ready for your start, you know, doing your 215 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 6: homework this and that. So what are some things you 216 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 6: can use from the past to be like, Hey, if 217 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 6: I do get stuck in a situation, I know how 218 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 6: to navigate my day, whether. 219 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 4: It's talking to the catchers Dusty blah blah blah to 220 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 4: be ready for those starts and then and then what 221 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 4: you can take when you have your normal routine and 222 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 4: hopefully be in there for thirty straight. 223 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, So for as much as I talked about the 224 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: routine in the past, it's those spots star days where 225 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: I had just driven four hours from Memphis to Saint 226 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: Louis to be able to pitch. It's I don't have 227 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: You don't have a lot of time to get ready 228 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 3: to go. You just kind of go. Like that first 229 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: Mets game that I came up for, and I came 230 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: in relief. Thankfully I'd already faced those guys twice in 231 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: spring training, so I had a good idea how to 232 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: attack them anyway. So no meeting, no nothing, just coming 233 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: with the basis loaded to bailout Polante. But then the 234 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: other games like the Dodgers, the White Sox, the Cubs, 235 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: it's hey, like thanks for coming, good luck, and that's it. 236 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: So you have to have minimize routine to do just 237 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: enough to get yourself ready to go. And so it's 238 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: good in a way that like you're not a slave 239 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 3: to your routine, but when you do have those scheduled 240 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: starts being back in the big leagues, like, it's good 241 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: to have the routine, but not have it be too 242 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 3: much to where you are a slave to it at 243 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: the end of the day. 244 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: So the upcoming season, Lance and I have talked about it. 245 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: We call it a build, and we call it a build. Lance, 246 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: it's a build. 247 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 4: With I think that's what IM's calling it now. 248 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 6: It was a retool, but how it's a build because 249 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 6: I don't know, it's turned a little bit more than 250 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 6: just a retool, I think, but that's what we'll. 251 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: Call it, a retol build whatever. But the rotation gonna 252 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: have a different look. 253 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: They brought in Dustin May, who's now like the veteran 254 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: otherwise is gonna be a young step no Sunny, no Miles, 255 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: no lance Lynn around. 256 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: What's it like to be part of that group? 257 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: And who knows that you know they could have added 258 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: You know, we don't know what it's gonna look like. 259 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a young rotation. You're part of it. 260 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: What's you like looking ahead to what you guys have 261 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: in front of you. 262 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, with all the trades that have gone on this 263 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: offseason and bringing in guys like Dustin May, Hunter Dobbins, 264 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: Richard Fitz, it's you start to do the numbers to 265 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: see who could be a starter. I mean Polante, we 266 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: could stretch out lay he got me. It's like, oh, 267 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: that's already six right, there only five spots. Like so 268 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: it's gonna breed some good, healthy competition. I know him 269 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: has said that many times this offseason. But they're all 270 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: guys that have had good success in the Big League 271 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: so far in their young careers, and they have high 272 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: upside to build a good, strong rotation for years to come. 273 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: So it was nice meeting everybody at FanFest and winter 274 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: warm up a couple of weeks ago. I think everybody's 275 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: psyched to get started and ready to go. But I 276 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 3: mean nothing is guaranteed. Like, I appreciate you saying I'll 277 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: be in rotation, but I mean I got to earn 278 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: a spot. It's no, it's a business. I handled the 279 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: business side last year. There were options, and we all 280 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: get three years of options. I pray to God that 281 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: I don't and I'm gonna work my ass off to 282 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: stay up in the big leagues. But any of us 283 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: could get sent down, but any of us could also 284 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: be in the rotation. It's just like, we want to 285 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: build this team to what it should be, and you know, 286 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: like the best will play. 287 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 6: No, that's what that's what you want coming in as 288 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,479 Speaker 6: a as a as a staff. You want that competition, 289 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 6: which you're all young, you all know each other well, 290 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,599 Speaker 6: so I think it's going to breed, you know, a 291 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 6: healthy competition. 292 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 4: And in all, honestly, none of you in the big 293 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 4: league level of thrown over one hundred and fifty innings 294 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 4: in the season. 295 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 6: So when you look at it that way, to keep 296 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 6: people healthy and also doing well at the end of 297 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 6: the season, like you talked about, we talked to Libby 298 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 6: earlier this year, is maybe there's gonna be some six 299 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 6: man days and stuff like that. So I think that 300 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 6: that's going to, you know, bode well for guys getting 301 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 6: starts and getting to do their things. Now, when it 302 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 6: comes to those starts, where we at on our bread 303 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 6: and butter, our bread and butter pitches, and where we 304 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 6: at on our tinkering and the off season, because those 305 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 6: are both things that people understand or don't maybe not understand. 306 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 6: You got to make sure your bread and butter stays 307 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 6: with your bread and butter, and then how are we 308 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 6: going to bring some things with it? 309 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so bread and butter being obviously the sinker and 310 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 3: slider mix. It's always so funny, like the first time 311 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: you step back on the mouth for your first ever bullpen, 312 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: and I mean more than half the time, it's just 313 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: not what it should be and you instantly go into 314 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: freak out mode. It's like, oh my gosh, my sinker sucks, 315 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: my slider sucks. I'm I'm just the worst pitcher ever. 316 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: And that last day and regularly a couple of us 317 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: we're talking like it's crazy, how like we're playing at 318 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 3: such a high level right now. A lot of these 319 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: teams go into the playoffs. You play at such a 320 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 3: high level. After the World Series is over, they'll take 321 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: some time off and then they'll slowly get back into 322 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: pitching and they'll completely forget how to pitch. It's your 323 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: mechanics kind. 324 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 4: Of go away. 325 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: Your feel for your fingers coming off the ball goes 326 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: away a little bit, so you have to relearn it 327 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: a little bit. So over time, like the sinker insiders 328 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: come back. Everything's in a good spot right now. Singer, slider, curveball, cutter, 329 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: it's all good. Obviously tinkering with the change of just 330 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: making an even better pitch. I want to utilize that 331 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: more this year, especially the lefties. Forcing fastball is always 332 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: a good pitch for me against those lefties. So just 333 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: refining that so it's not running as much. But got 334 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,239 Speaker 3: a bullpen later today and I'll get back to you 335 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: after you see where we're at. 336 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 4: I'll be waiting on a text. No, make sure the 337 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 4: bread and butter is there, and let me know what. 338 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 3: The tinker work with exactly. 339 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: Lance. 340 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: At this point, I would like you to kind of 341 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: show your shirt because the folks watching, like Cardinal Territory, 342 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: there's merch available. You want to look as handsome as Lance, 343 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: lind say. We're going to hawk some items here, Michael. 344 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: We have on the website. There are hats, t shirts, hoodies, 345 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: all quality merchandise, all reasonably price, a whole bunch of stuff. 346 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: It's at Cardinal Territory shop dot com. You can look 347 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: as good as lance Lynn does. So I wanted to 348 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: ask you, Michael, about one of the things that anyone's 349 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: watched you pitch. And I'm sorry if I put you 350 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: in the rotation. I think you're gonna be there. I 351 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: know you have to say to. 352 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: One of the things. 353 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: Whatever you say people say, Michael McGreevey looks the part 354 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: like from the first time you got into a major 355 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: league game, it didn't look like it was too big 356 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: for you. 357 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: And here's the other thing I noticed. You always look 358 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: like you're having fun out there. 359 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: It could be ninety five degrees, it could be an 360 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: outing that isn't going great. You always look like you're 361 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: enjoying pitching. Tell me where that comes from. 362 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just fall in love with the game 363 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: when I was so young. It's I get to play 364 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: this sport as a job. It's what I love to do. 365 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: It's where I've made over eighty percent of all my 366 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: friends I've come from baseball. And the fact I still 367 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: get to play this game for it, have to make 368 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: a living for my family. It's it's unbelievable and I 369 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 3: kind of just have to take a step back and laugh, 370 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 3: like this is nuts, Like this is absolutely crazy that 371 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 3: I get to do this, and it's such a blessing 372 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: from God. But when I'm on the mountain playing, obviously, 373 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: I want to be under control, make sure my team 374 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 3: behind me knows, like the moment's not too big or 375 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: anything like that, and I try to just keep a 376 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 3: level face no matter who I'm facing. But you got 377 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 3: guys like Sho, Halo Tani, Fernando Tatis, Mana Machado step 378 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: in the box like this is pretty fricking cool, like 379 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 3: some of the best players in baseball right now, and 380 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: I get to face them, I feel like I'm I 381 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 3: feel like I'm ten years old. Well when I'm on 382 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: that mound, and I hope to not pitch like I'm ten, 383 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 3: but just it's absolutely surreal, and like I try to 384 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: just take every day as an absolute blessing that I'm 385 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: on the moundin pitching for the Cardinals. 386 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 4: And I mean, you got to think about this. Dad's 387 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: a judge, mom's a lawyer, brother's going to be a lawyer. 388 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 4: How's it feel sitting around the dinner table being the 389 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 4: dumb dumb of the family. 390 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's the absolute worst. I couldn't tell you 391 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: the age where my brother started beating me in arguments. 392 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: And he's a little brother, he's three years younger than me, 393 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: But it got to a point where like, dude, I'm 394 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: the idiot of the family. I'm just the dumb baseball 395 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 3: player that throws the rock down to the catcher. Ooh, yeah, 396 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 3: everybody needs one. 397 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 4: At least you're a professional athlete. 398 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, at least I got. It'd be pretty bad if 399 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: I didn't get to the professional atmosphere. Then it'd be like, oh, 400 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: like you didn't make it. Now you can go do something. 401 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: You could go find something. I'm sure you can find something. 402 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: I'm a degree though from UCSB, but definitely I don't 403 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 3: think i'd be as high up in the law career 404 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: as my parents and my little brother will be. 405 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about some of the other 406 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: guys who I expect will be part of the rotation 407 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: or could be. But let's start with Matthew Libertour. Now 408 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: there's a young man at a very good season. I 409 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: think the upside is through the roof. I know Lance 410 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: really is high as well, But to me, that's the 411 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: guy when you talk to him, it seems like he's 412 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: a twenty year vetling like he just drifts almost with 413 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: wisdom for a young guy. Just your thoughts on being 414 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: teammates with Livy and what he brings. 415 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 2: To the table. 416 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you said it yourself. He feels 417 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 3: like he's a twenty twenty year VET. I get to 418 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 3: when we're sitting in the dugout watching the game, and 419 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: it feels like I can ask Luby questions that I 420 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 3: would be asking a ten year VET in the show. It's, hey, 421 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: what would you think about this? What do you think 422 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 3: about this? And he'd answer him like he's been there, 423 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: done that, and he kind of has. He's had some 424 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 3: time in the show, a lot more than me right now. 425 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: But it's it's nice to have a young guy like 426 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 3: that with so much wisdom and knowledge to where like 427 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: we don't need that, ohle, this veteran presence that has 428 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: ten plus years in the rotation. Now, granted that will 429 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: be Palonte hopefully this year, with all his wisdom and knowledge, 430 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 3: but Libby is such a good tool for me, and 431 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: I hope a lot of the other guys in the 432 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: rotation will use him as well. That you just learn 433 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 3: so much from him. And I was telling Lance the 434 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: other day, I felt like when I was a young pitcher, 435 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: I feel like I was just a thrower. I just 436 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: threw the ball and got out. But over time, like 437 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 3: I developed like becoming a pitcher. And Libby's such he 438 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: just knows how to do it. He knows how to pitch, 439 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: and it's just like bouncing off him. It's I now 440 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 3: like I'm turning into a pitcher. 441 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 6: You talked about Plante. You guys went to the same 442 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 6: high school. He's two years old and now he could 443 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 6: be the veteran man on the staff. 444 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 4: Is he still the same pain in the ass he 445 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 4: was when he was in high school? Or has he 446 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 4: elevated that a little bit. 447 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 3: He's probably still the same pain in the ass. He 448 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: might even be more because he has a lot more 449 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 3: money now than he did in high school, so he's 450 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 3: very I'm just I'm totally kidding. Falante is awesome. It's 451 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: he's still with goofball. He's still the same guy from 452 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: high school. But he is also one of the guys 453 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 3: that has helped me become a big leaguer. In twenty 454 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 3: twenty four, I was off to a super slow start, 455 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: and he unfortunately got optioned down to Memphis to learn 456 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 3: that two seams sinker, and he kind of sat me 457 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: down because I just was going through four or five 458 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 3: starts in a row where I just couldn't get out 459 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 3: past the fourth and he's like, look like, you're not 460 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 3: on the forty man. There's two other guys on the 461 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: forty man here in Tripaa that will probably go before you. 462 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 3: Everyone up top is healthy, they got more than enough 463 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 3: arms up top. Just use this first half to like 464 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 3: develop something. In the second half. That's when you'll you 465 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 3: can grade yourself and look back of how your year went. 466 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: Because we're greaded on the second half down here in 467 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 3: the minors. Just use that and your season starts in 468 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,239 Speaker 3: the second half. Just use this time to develop and 469 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: come June first, I completely like flip the switch, and 470 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 3: I had a great second half of twenty twenty four. 471 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: I'm a big leaguer by the trade deadline, and then 472 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 3: I finished in the big leagues last two weeks of 473 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 3: twenty five or so. As much as I like to 474 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: we like to joke about Andre and all of his tendencies. 475 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 3: He really didn't help me become a big leaguear that 476 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 3: year in twenty four. 477 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: I think he's universally loved in that clubhouse too. A 478 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: lot everybody love you know. There's a little bit of 479 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: click with you, starters, relievers, you know, infielders outfield. 480 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: He's everyone's guy. 481 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone's guy. Everyone's guy. You need you need someone 482 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 3: to talk to, he's there. You need to someone to 483 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: joke around him, bully a little bit. If he's your guy. 484 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: If you just need just a teammate and a friend, 485 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 3: he's also your guy. He's a man of many talents, 486 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: and thankfully he's also a really good pitcher. 487 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 2: Now, Lady, is a guy you mentioned that could be 488 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 2: in the rotation. 489 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: They're bringing him back as a starter, and he is 490 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: a real quiet guy. You wouldn't know how intense he 491 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: is on the field when you see him in the 492 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: in the clubhouse because he's so soft spoken. He's also 493 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: a guy that has a rubber arm, kind of like Libby, 494 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: who he says, I always want the big tell me 495 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: about what you guys might have A. 496 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: Lady, Yeah, Kyle's a Kyle's like an evil genius on 497 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: the mountains. He seems to have every pitch ever created 498 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: he's got before seen you got a singer. He could 499 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: run a two seam in there, change up, splitter, curveball, slider, sweeper, cutter, 500 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 3: gyro slider. He's got everything, it seems, and it just 501 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 3: seems like it comes so easy to him. And he's 502 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: definitely a quiet guy, and he goes about his business 503 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 3: like the right way. He is never not doing the 504 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 3: right things. He's never not in the weight room, he's 505 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: never not working on his mechanics, he's never not taking 506 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 3: catch plays seriously. So it's a good guy like you 507 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 3: want in the rotation or just on your pitching staff 508 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: in general. I kind of want him to open up 509 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 3: this year. And I feel like he secretly hates me 510 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 3: a little bit because my first big league camp in 511 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, rookie's got to get there at seven 512 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 3: am the second the clubhouse opens, and I walk in like, 513 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: hey guys, good morning, good morning, like just to everybody 514 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: because I'm excited to be there. So my first big 515 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 3: lead camp, and Kyle comes to me is like McGreevy, 516 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 3: like your energy is way too high right now, you 517 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 3: need to like tone it back. And so anytime I 518 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 3: see Kyle and like saying hey everyone, Hey, hey, hey 519 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: hey Kyle, good. 520 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: To see uh. 521 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 3: And we like to call him e or like he's 522 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: or from winning the Pooh. 523 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 6: That fits though that that it doesn't not fit. Yeah, 524 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 6: he always looks like man, I could catch a nap 525 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 6: or he just he just caught one one of the two. 526 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 6: You don't know if he's going or coming from a nap. Yeah, exactly, 527 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 6: All right, stuff, good stuff. 528 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 4: Well you look at I mean, if you look at 529 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 4: the way that you're talking about the guys that we've 530 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 4: talked about today, all of you have had similar paths, right, 531 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 4: you got called up and down, you did the shuffle, 532 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 4: maybe spent some time in the bullpen when that's not 533 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 4: what you did this and that. So I believe the 534 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 4: idea of you guys all feeding off of each other. 535 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 4: And the way you were talking about talking to Libby 536 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 4: and Polante is you guys have all they've gone do 537 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: it before you, and they're all kind of passing down 538 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 4: little tidbits on ways to do it. 539 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 6: And I'm with Jim on this is all of you 540 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 6: have the ability to get people out in multiple different 541 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 6: ways with your arsenal, and you all do it a 542 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 6: little bit differently. So that's the beauty of what I 543 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 6: think people don't understand of what has been kind of built, right, 544 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 6: we're going to build Jim. This is what they've built 545 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 6: as a rotation, the ability to do a lot of 546 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 6: different things and a lot of different ways. But everybody 547 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 6: has that mentality of hey, we've all kind of had 548 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 6: to deal with different adversity to get here. So I'm 549 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 6: looking forward to what you guys are going to do 550 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 6: this year as a group. You're a deep group, got 551 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 6: a lot of different ways to do it, and you 552 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 6: guys all feed off of each other well and get 553 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 6: along well, So you know, I'm looking forward to how 554 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 6: that goes or what are some maybe some thought processes 555 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 6: that you're going into the season with on Hey, you 556 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 6: know we got this, this and this, how can I 557 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 6: help as a group, but also what can I take 558 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 6: from certain guys as you go go through the season 559 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 6: this year. 560 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think going back to talking with Libby and 561 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 3: the dugout, we always talked about because we had a 562 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 3: couple of vets and we had a couple of young 563 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 3: guys and Andrea is kind of in the middle there 564 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: with his four ish years in the show, Sonny doing 565 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 3: his own thing. You're not going to talk to Sonny 566 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 3: about how he goes about his business. He's an all star, 567 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 3: He's one of the best pitchers I've ever seen. Miles 568 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: is been with the Carlins forever. You're also not going 569 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 3: to tell him how to do his thing. But now 570 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 3: that we have Smiles. 571 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 6: Way to say, it's a simple as deposits too, So 572 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 6: don't you got to find. 573 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 3: Your own way getting no kidding, but opposites attract in 574 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: a way, so it's fine. But going talking about with Libby, 575 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 3: with all these young guys that we're going to have, 576 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 3: it's about creating an identity for the STAB. It's not 577 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: just about like, hey, like everybody pitching well, and we 578 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: obviously want to all do well, but it's what is 579 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 3: this like rotation's identity? What is this rotation going to 580 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 3: be built on? Like coming up with like certain rules 581 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 3: that we have to do. Like I was talking with 582 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: Lance the other day, like, hey, like are we going 583 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: to be out there for every bullpen? Are we going 584 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: to be out there for every starters bullpen before a game? 585 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 3: Like what do we want to do. Do we want 586 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 3: to make sure that like this, every starter feels like 587 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 3: the other four guys has his back. Do we want 588 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 3: guys to be out there the first through the fifth inning? 589 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 3: No one's going back in the clubhouse during that time. 590 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 3: We wanted like just every guy in that pitching staff 591 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: is pulling in the right direction, like pulling for the guy, 592 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 3: no matter who's on the mound, Like everybody wants to 593 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: be on the mound at the same time. But it's like, hey, 594 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: he's on the mountain late, he's on the mount right now. 595 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: Everybody's got lay he's back, and there's no like, well, 596 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 3: I wish I was put in right now. I wish 597 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 3: I had the ball right now. It's no like we've 598 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 3: built this rotation to be abandoned brothers and the bat 599 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 3: abandon bad motherfuckers. Like at the same time, to do 600 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: what we need to do and pitch the way we 601 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: need to pitch, to get guys out and really build 602 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: this rotation what it should be. 603 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: All right, last thing before we let you go, that's 604 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: team orient Will you appreciate it. I want to ask 605 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: you about individual goals. Now players will say, oh, I 606 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: don't set goals you do. I know everyone sets personal goals. 607 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,239 Speaker 1: I don't know what you could share, but if one 608 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: of the things you can share with us that are 609 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: your personal goals for the season head outside of making 610 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: the team and being in the starting rotation. 611 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, other than that kind of boring, I guess kind 612 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: of stick away all my goals. But i'd say if 613 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 3: when in the sorry invitation to create positive energy right there, 614 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: want to make every start be healthy, could as many 615 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 3: innings as I can, hopefully get a career high in innings, 616 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 3: just being that workhorse of the team. I couldn't tell 617 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: you what my career high is at this point. Just 618 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: make every start be competitive, strike as many guys out 619 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: as I can, just get ahead of guys, and you know, 620 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 3: just be that guy the team can count on to 621 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: get a win when they need to. 622 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 6: I got well, ready, got it. I got his numbers 623 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 6: for you. He wants to make thirty two starts at 624 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 6: least one hundred and eighty innings. 625 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 4: We want to sub four e r A. We want 626 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 4: to win twelve to fifteen games. We don't. 627 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: We want to. 628 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 4: We want to lose less than eighty. That's it. 629 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: Perfect, Thank you, down, Thank you that's those are the numbers. 630 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 4: That's what we're shooting for. 631 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: Perfect. I'm going mine mine. 632 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 4: First year starting the big leagues of one eighteen games 633 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 4: to be an All Star. 634 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 5: But you do you, I'm gonna says every year we're hey, yeah, 635 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 5: well it was make every you know, thirty plus starts 636 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 5: on hundred plus hundred eighty innings. 637 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 4: Plus, blah blah. I try to win more ten games? 638 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, how about this fifteen and seven e r a 639 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: of three four five. 640 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: We don't go with that. 641 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, fine, that's fine by me. If we want to 642 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 3: mix in a golden English, that's good as well. 643 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: All right, just we'll throw that in there. Gold. But Michael, 644 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: we appreciate joining us. 645 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 4: I love that. I never came close. 646 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: Seeing Mason's was incredible, and I was like, I need that. 647 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: I need that right now. 648 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 4: Be pretty on the shelf. None of your siblings or 649 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 4: your parents will have that. 650 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: They'll have their Yeah, judge can't get a. 651 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 6: Lawder degree, whatever, judge whatever, bag Yeah gold and then 652 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 6: you got gold. 653 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: Baby. 654 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there could be gold in your future. 655 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 2: I agree. 656 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: We know you're getting ready to head out, so we 657 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: appreciate you spending some time with those Lance as always 658 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: constant delight. That's gonna do it for this edition of 659 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: Cardio Territory. We'll see you next time, and hopefully that 660 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: edition won't suck.