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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology,

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Speaker 1: and it's no secret I love animals and I want

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Speaker 1: to cuddle all of them. But sadly, most animals are

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Speaker 1: not available for cuddles, as they're wild animals or they're

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Speaker 1: that grumpy house cat who keeps rejecting me. Unfortunately, I'll

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Speaker 1: have to stick to giving my dog belly rubs, because

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Speaker 1: as cute as wild animals can be, they certainly don't

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Speaker 1: want to be cuddled by me. And as we'll find out,

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Speaker 1: sometimes a cute little animal turns out to be a

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Speaker 1: serial killer. So today we're going to be playing a

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Speaker 1: little game. See if you can guess which one of

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Speaker 1: these animals we're about to discuss is more likely to

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Speaker 1: kill you than to cuddle you. We're talking adorable widow

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Speaker 1: sea creatures, terrifying toothy beasts, and birds who look like

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Speaker 1: they come from a gym. I'm a Henson Nightmare. Discover

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Speaker 1: this and more as we answer the angel question, can

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Speaker 1: you trim your hedges? With a crocodile? Joining me today

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Speaker 1: to play the world's riskiest game show is comedian cat

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Speaker 1: Lover Garfield impersonator Joey Cliff.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Joey, Hey, everybody. Yeah, I'm excited to be back.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited. I feel like I might do well in

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Speaker 2: this game. But I also I just assume that every

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Speaker 2: animal that looks adorable is probably also not deadly, so

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Speaker 2: I feel like I might die pretty fast.

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Speaker 1: The last time I had you on, I think we

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Speaker 1: talked about Cats, right, Cats the musical, Cats the animal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Cat's the musical and Cats the animal, And I

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Speaker 2: write I still think that seeing the Cats movie live

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Speaker 2: is the most fun that I've ever had watching a

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Speaker 2: movie live. So my taste is off, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, so let's get right into it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna play a little game on this show where

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Speaker 1: we try to guess which one of these animals is

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Speaker 1: gonna want to cuddle you and which one will kill you.

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Speaker 1: And when I say cuddle you, none of these animals

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Speaker 1: actually really want to cuddle you, because they're wild animals.

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Speaker 1: But you know, in a situation where it's like you

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Speaker 1: have to choose either to cuddle it like to cuddle

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Speaker 1: which one of these animals? Which one would you pick

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Speaker 1: and so first up is the catfish versus the garial crocodile.

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Speaker 1: So I have provided you with pictures of these lovely animals,

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Speaker 1: and which one would you like to cuddle? And which

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Speaker 1: one are you going to run away from? Joey.

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Speaker 2: So, looking at the pictures of these animals, I my

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Speaker 2: immediate gut reaction based on pictures is like, Oh, that'd

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Speaker 2: be cute to cuddle a catfish. It's got the word

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Speaker 2: cat and it's name, so of course I'm gonna be

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Speaker 2: on board for it. But I think that I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: choose the grid or the I think I'm gonna choose

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Speaker 2: the garial. Yeah, I think I'm gonna choose the garial

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Speaker 2: crocodile because I feel like I might have heard stories

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Speaker 2: of catfish like eating people, so like, I think that that's.

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Speaker 1: Actually from the show Catfish, where a cannibal convinces someone

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Speaker 1: to dater and then she eats them.

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Speaker 2: Was okay in this situation? Was the cannibal a catfish

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Speaker 2: that convinced was it like the cannibal and actually.

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Speaker 1: Catfish on the show? Yeah, it was a catfish on

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Speaker 1: the show Catfish, and the catfish catfished a human and

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Speaker 1: then ate the human exactly.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: believe that. But yeah, so I'm gonna say the garial

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Speaker 2: crocodile just because I think I've heard of catfish eating humans.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think catfish actually eat humans. Now, there

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Speaker 1: is a thing that people will do called catfish noodling,

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Speaker 1: where they will their arm in a catfish den and

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Speaker 1: the catfish will chomp down on their arm and then

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Speaker 1: they pull the catfish out of the water. Now, this

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Speaker 1: is a very dangerous way to fish because first of all,

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Speaker 1: it can pull you under and if you get stuck

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Speaker 1: and you are trying to get this catfish and the

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Speaker 1: And there is another very important reason not to mess

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Speaker 1: called catfish because many of these species, most of them

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Speaker 2: They're also called catfish because they love laser pointers, right.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, Yes, yes, if you bring a laser pointer under

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Speaker 1: Not really, So catfish do not have scales. They actually

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Speaker 1: they possess very powerful weapons. They have spines on their

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Speaker 1: deliver a stinging venom. In fact, so many species of

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Speaker 1: catfish are venomous that the siluroforms, which is the group

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Speaker 1: of catfish, win the prize for the vertebrate order with

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Speaker 1: the most venomous species.

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Speaker 2: This is how I find out that I didn't win

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Speaker 2: that award.

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Speaker 1: Geez, sorry, sorry, the Joey Cliffs order does not have

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Speaker 1: the most venomous species.

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Speaker 2: Nuts.

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Speaker 1: It's actually wait, what was that? God damn, I was

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Speaker 1: gonna do a bit about Joan Rivers and then I

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Speaker 1: forgot about what Joan Rivers name was, So you know,

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Speaker 1: she's also dead.

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Speaker 2: So she's also dead because she was filled with too

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Speaker 2: much venom. She produces ven.

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Speaker 1: All the people like under thirty something listening to this,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be wondering what the hell is going on?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, so like next next, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: talk about Charlemagne from a first person of like, look,

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Speaker 2: I was telling Charlemagne this joke and he loved it.

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Speaker 1: So the most dangerous species of catfish are the Heteronoustis

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Speaker 1: and Plotosus. So Heternustis are a genus of Asian catfish

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Speaker 1: which can hospitalize humans with their powerful stings, which are

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Speaker 1: also extremely painful. So you know it's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: Have you have you ever been like stung by anything

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Speaker 1: You know, I have lived a blessed life where I

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Speaker 1: don't even think I've ever gotten a jellyfish sting. And

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Speaker 2: I think that I also am just such an indoor

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Speaker 2: I think I've come is when I was two years old,

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Speaker 2: I can't really say from a first hand experience what

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Speaker 2: venom feels like, but like, if it's anything like a

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Speaker 1: There's this biologist and I forgot his name, but he

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Speaker 1: went around the world ranking the painfulness of stings and

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Speaker 1: guess how he did it by just stinging himself with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that what what is that? The Kinsey scale

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Speaker 2: or what is that? Like?

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Speaker 1: No, the Kinsey scale is sexual?

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Speaker 2: They think, Oh right, I'm dumb.

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Speaker 1: How sexual you feel towards venomous animals?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, god, oh then I'm like a twelve out

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Speaker 2: I've definitely read about that guy. I mean that's why,

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Speaker 2: like it's it's a scale of like one to five

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Speaker 2: that there's also just like a guy with a YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: Now that's just like, watch me get stung by this bug?

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Speaker 1: Oh really, is this a real thing?

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Speaker 2: Or do you think it just no is a real thing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Well, I know what I'm doing. After we wrap this up.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll send you a link. Everybody watch it.

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Speaker 2: Everybody listening to this, just google YouTube sting guy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's actually what his channel's called,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know. Guy getting stung by something will

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Speaker 1: Guy getting stung by something at the name of the channel. So.

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Speaker 1: The other group of species of catfish that you really

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Speaker 1: So Plotosis are a genus of catfish that live in

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Speaker 1: stings are extremely venomous. So one species, the striped eel catfish,

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Speaker 1: are pretty unassuming looking. They're actually kind of cute in

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Speaker 1: They've got the little whiskers, they've got that silly little

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Speaker 2: I don't but I don't know why that's something that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they have these black and white stripes. They're like

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Speaker 1: But it will kill you if it stings you, and

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Speaker 1: if you're it doesn't always kill you if you're stung

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Speaker 1: require amputation. So you know that's not great. I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that, like, look, if that's the

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Speaker 2: risk I gotta take to pet catfish, then like that's

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Speaker 2: the risk at their amputation, tetation or cuddling a slimy animal.

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Speaker 2: I will choose cuddle.

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Speaker 1: You're willing to put it all on the line for

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Speaker 1: these catfish. Yep. So in contrast, the garial crocodile is

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Speaker 1: extremely frightening looking. So it is a crocodile, as is

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Speaker 1: perhaps observable by its name. So crocodiles are a very

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Speaker 1: very old order of reptiles, originating over eighty million years ago,

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Speaker 1: and garials have been around a little more recently, so

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Speaker 1: they're only five million years old, fresh and sort of

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Speaker 1: Indian subcontinent, but now there is just kind of a

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Speaker 1: handful of them left. And these are big, big, big guys.

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Speaker 1: They grow from eight to nineteen feet long and they

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Speaker 1: weigh up to two thousand pounds. So you know, that's

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Speaker 1: that's chonky.

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Speaker 2: of this crocodile. I wouldn't have guessed that it's so

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Speaker 2: it's like a side view, and its mouth is open

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Speaker 2: really wide, and it looks like it's.

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Speaker 1: Staying hi hawty. Yeah, yeah, it's and it's kind of

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Speaker 1: record of fishermen actually trying to use this tactic to

431
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Speaker 1: keep fish fit. That means that the story behind catfishing

432
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: is itself a catfish. Or wait, it's not, because the

433
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,239
Speaker 1: story's not true, so catfish doesn't. Never mind, forget it.

434
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: When we return, we're going to talk about another couple

435
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 1: of water dwelling critters. One is a sweetheart and the

436
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: other could kill around thirty people in under a minute.

437
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: Appearances can be deceiving, or sometimes they're not. Sometimes an

438
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: animal looks sinister with huge teeth and huge claws, and

439
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: it turns out yep, it's a grizzly bear and it'll

440
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: definitely tear you to pieces. Making snap judgments about what

441
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: animals are most likely to kill us probably saved a

442
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: lot of our ancient ancestors keisters. But now that we

443
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: have the modern technology of podcasting, let's take a look

444
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: at some of these animals and see if the science

445
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: backs up our initial impressions. So, Joey, I think you

446
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: probably know the answer to this section. But who would

447
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: you rather cuddle a cute little octopus or one of

448
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: the biggest sharks in the world.

449
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so I I know that the blue ring octopus

450
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: is one of the most venomous animals out there, so

451
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't pick the blue ring octopus. But the

452
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: basking shark is a large shark whose mouth looks like

453
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: it's out of just a Cthulhu story.

454
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: I could be tricking you, like this could be the

455
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: section where I'm like, they both kill you and eat

456
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: you dead. Congratulations, you lose.

457
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that I want to cuddle the I

458
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 2: want to say I want to cuddle the basking shark.

459
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's take a look at the basking

460
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: shark then, So the basking shark is the second largest

461
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 1: shark in the world, second to the whale shark.

462
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: Oh, it'll be the biggest someday, don't you worry, buddy.

463
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like Finding Dory has kind of given

464
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: the whale sharks some really good press, you know, because

465
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: it was that character in Finding Dory. What was the

466
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 1: whale shark's name? I don't remember.

467
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure if I've seen Finding Dory, but

468
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's cute. That movie looks cute.

469
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: There's this like near sighted whale shark and it's very cute.

470
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: But yeah, the whale sharks are also cute and harmless,

471
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: but basking sharks look a lot more menacing than a

472
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: whale shark. Whale sharks kind of they're cute, they have

473
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: little spots, they look kind of happy and friendly, but

474
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: basking sharks have these massive, massive mouths. It has gray skin.

475
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 1: It grows to be around twenty six feet, which is

476
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: eight meters long, and it can reach lengths up to

477
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: forty five feet in a way up to ten pounds,

478
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: and they can live to be around fifty years old.

479
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: So they really are sort of a I don't know,

480
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: just like this, they look like this ancient monster from

481
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: the depths.

482
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: Like looking at the photo of it, like its mouth

483
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: really looks like like it looks like it's opening its

484
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: neck into its rib change basically.

485
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: Right, looks like a portal into the nether world.

486
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: And like, although like the basking shark picture that you

487
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: sent me, like he does look puffy like in a

488
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: cute way, and then like it's like, oh, I kind

489
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: of would like to pet the stuffed animal version of

490
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 2: a basking shark, but I also am aware that shark skin.

491
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: It's like if you pet the wrong way, can like

492
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: cut you open.

493
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually they have denticles protrusions coming out of

494
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: their skin that are actually quite rough. Yeah yeah, it

495
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: feels like sand papery.

496
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: I'm but my point stands, I would like to cuddle

497
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: that shark. I will take that risk.

498
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: They do look like prius monsters, and because they kind

499
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: of are prehistoric monsters. They evolved around four hundred million

500
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: years ago, and one of their most notable features, other

501
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: than just being ginormous, is that they have that huge mouth.

502
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: They have ros and rows of teeth in the mouth,

503
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: and they can open. The mouth's incredibly wide enough for

504
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: an adult human to just kind of waltz right into

505
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: if you wanted to, just like dude to do here,

506
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: I walk into a shark mouth. But as you may

507
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: have guessed from this sort of overall redemption arc of

508
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: this episode, they are harmless to humans.

509
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: Yay.

510
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: The teeth that are in their mouth are tiny, and

511
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: the real business end of this shark are all of

512
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: the little gill rakers. These are bristles on the inside

513
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: of its mouth that help them catch plankton because they're

514
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: just filter feeders.

515
00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: Yay. So okay, So I could I could walk into

516
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: the mouth of a basking shark and not die?

517
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: Ah yeah, I mean I wouldn't try it because you

518
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: could drown if you get stuck in there. You could

519
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: you could hurt the basking shark, but it's probably not

520
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 1: gonna know what to do with you. It's probably just

521
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: gonna try to get away from you. It's not gonna

522
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: want you in its mouth. I mean, did you ask

523
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: the basking shark? Did you ask, like, hello, knock on

524
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: its front mouth part and be like, you know, knock,

525
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: knock here I am, and it's just gonna be like,

526
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: uh no, you're not planked in like please don't.

527
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: Uh do you think I mean, do you think a

528
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: basking shark has a doorbell on its snout? Ding dong

529
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: and then no solicitors? Hey? Yeah, yeah. I feel like

530
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: if you knocked on the side of a basking shark

531
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: like it was a door, then it would open up.

532
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: There's like a couch in there, and it's like the

533
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: other version of Pinocchio, where instead of getting eaten by

534
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: a big, old mean whale, they were eaten by this

535
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: super chill basking shark. And it's like, hey, we actually

536
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: kind of like it. In here.

537
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like if a basking shark his mouth

538
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: is big enough to walk into, Like, I feel like

539
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: a basking shark's mouth is probably bigger than most of

540
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: our apartments. We should live inside basking sharks exactly.

541
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: It's good rent rent controlled basking sharks.

542
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

543
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: So they feed by moving forward with their giant mouth agape,

544
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: and they suck in massive amounts of water, and that

545
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: water flows through their mouth over their gills, and the

546
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: plankton gets stuck on their gill raker bristles. So when

547
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: you look at that open mouth, you see all those

548
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: white bands, and those are areas where the gill attaches

549
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 1: to the shark, and then on those sort of like

550
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: white bony structures are these raker bristles, and then it's

551
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: just you know, the plankton and other small marine life

552
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: gets stuck in there and it's got a nice snack.

553
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: I'm curious about, like how much how many pounds of

554
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: plankton does a basking shark have to eat to survive, because,

555
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 2: like you know, plankton's fairly small and basking sharks are gigantic.

556
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: Are they sucking in like a ton of plankton per day?

557
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 2: Like what I don't know.

558
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure how much plankton itself they

559
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: suck in. They do suck in one thousand, eight hundred

560
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: metric tons of water every hour. So that's like, what

561
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: is that, that's like four that's all.

562
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like that's like four big gulps.

563
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: A lot. Oh yeah, it's a lot. But they also

564
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: have the smallest brain to body ratio of any shark,

565
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: so we do know that brain size is not always

566
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: an accurate predictor of intelligence. But it's also true that

567
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: these basking sharks really don't need all that much brain

568
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: because they are very they're very chill dudes. They have

569
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: a very passive lifestyle. They don't have to they don't

570
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: really have predators to speak of. They, you know, just

571
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: swim through the ocean lazily slurping up plankton. They are

572
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: the very picture of chillness in the ocean.

573
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: Ah. So it's a big old dummies what you're saying, So.

574
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: Big old drum dumb ah.

575
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: So it's like it's like if a if a shark

576
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: was Garfield.

577
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: It's that these are the You're totally right, these are

578
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: show hate bud day.

579
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna cram so much lasagna down the sharks.

580
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: Well, if it's lasagna but it's made out of krill

581
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: in plankton, I'm sure it would appreciate you do that.

582
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: What do you think the shark's opinions on Mondays are.

583
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it likes it. I don't think it's

584
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: fond of the Monday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think so.

585
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: Then, like normals, just like a pupper fish man, let's okay, uh,

586
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: it's like a million dollar idea. Let's make shark field

587
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: shark field.

588
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: He's always trying to trying to mail normal the pufferfish

589
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: to Atlantis. So they are they're so relaxed, they're not

590
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: aggressive at all. They often bask near the surface of

591
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: the water, so thus their name, uh filter feeding and

592
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: enjoying the warmth. But they're so incredibly chill that they

593
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: don't try to avoid boats, and so these poor guys

594
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: often get injured by boats because they're just like two

595
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: chillax to like run away from a boat and they're like, oh,

596
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: that looks like a new friend, and then they get

597
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: bonked on the head. And it's sounds I know, I know,

598
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: but there's there's such big sweeties. We got it. We

599
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: gotta protect them, gotta be careful, have good boat etiquette

600
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: around these these just big old fun girls garve sharks.

601
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna ask a shipping question, who would you

602
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 2: friendship ship a basking shark and a catfish or a

603
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: basking shark and a garial crocodile.

604
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: I would definitely be the basking shark and the garial.

605
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Like, like one is like really chill,

606
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: and it's not that it's like super shy. Like the

607
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: basking shark is not shy, it's just like laid back.

608
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: But then the garial is really shy. So it's like,

609
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: I think a laid back shark and like a really

610
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: shy crocodile would get along pretty well.

611
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: She's like, it's okay, little buddy.

612
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: I guess that Captain Hoyt a jerk. Okay, they would

613
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: not be found in the same environment, but you know,

614
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: just as a thought experiment, they would definitely beat buddy up.

615
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I agree, have.

616
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: A buddy comedy.

617
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 2: I like that buddy comedy.

618
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: Me too, me too. So now let's talk about one

619
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: of the smallest octopuses in the world, who is a

620
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: lovely little cutie. I love this octopus and it'll wreck you.

621
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: It'll totally destroy you. So there is a group of

622
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: small octopus species called the blue ringed octopuses, and Joey,

623
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: I know you know about these guys and also are

624
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: and appreciate these blue ringed octopuses.

625
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, something that I love about blue ringed octopuses is

626
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 2: that like they look the most like a squeaky toy.

627
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: Like it's just this bright octopus. That's like I think

628
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: they're around like ten centimeters in length in a lot

629
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: of cases, including arm length.

630
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like five to eight inches twelve to twenty centimeters.

631
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: They're very teeny WEENI.

632
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: They could fit in the palm of your hand. Yeah,

633
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: And like they just look out of there, like they're

634
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: covered in blue colored in like spots that are blue

635
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: and yellow, and like it's just they look so cuddly,

636
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: but they're one of the most venomous animals in the

637
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: entire animal Yea.

638
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: Yes, they look like they come from candy Land and

639
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: they're here to be your friend, but they are most

640
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: assuredly not. And speaking of fitting into your palm, I've

641
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: seen so many pictures of people like holding these in

642
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: their palm, and it makes me shudder and cringe every

643
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: time I see it. It's you you do not want

644
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: to touch them, which you will find out why very soon.

645
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Speaker 1: So the blue ringed octopuses are found in the Indian

646
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: and Pacific Oceans near Australia and Japan, and like many

647
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: other octopus species, they eat small prey like crustaceans, shrimp,

648
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: and other small marine animals, and as their name suggests,

649
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: they are covered in beautiful, bright blue rings.

650
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen a picture of blue ring octopus,

651
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 2: just google it. They genuinely look really cool.

652
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: They're very cool looking, and they can actually change their

653
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: color like a lot of other cephalopods and octopuses, so

654
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: the rest of their skin is often a kind of

655
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: modeled and tan, which helps them blend into their environment,

656
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: and the blue rings aren't as noticeable, but if you

657
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: provoke them, they will turn a brilliant yellow and their

658
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: bright blue rings flash a warning at you. So they

659
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: are able to do this like other octopuses, using chromatophores,

660
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: which are color changing cells in their skin, and that

661
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: allows them to turn from that sort of camouflage modeled

662
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: color to a bright yellow and then to actually make

663
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: those blue rings flash. They don't use chromatophors. They use

664
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: muscle contractions to create this like rapid flashing of these rings.

665
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: And it's beautiful to look at and it might be

666
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: the last thing you see.

667
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: Honestly, do you have me to spill some bluing octopus expert?

668
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: T yeah, do it?

669
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: Okay. So a couple of years ago, I was working

670
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: on a national geographic show and we were doing a

671
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: segment on bluing octopuses. I was emailing with a bluing

672
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: octopus expert whose name is gave us me at the moment,

673
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 2: but she was really great, and after doing an interview

674
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: with her about the blue ring octopus, basically like sent

675
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 2: me an all caps email that was just like, please

676
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: don't tell people that their venom is located in the chromatophores.

677
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: And I was and like, at no point do I

678
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: think that I referenced that to her as a thing

679
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 2: that I was going to bring up. I think it's

680
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: something that she just felt like, Oh, this is what

681
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: this researcher is personally very frustrated by.

682
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: So oh I see, I see. So they're there people

683
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: think that the venom is in the chromatophores.

684
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, or like the venom is like is yea

685
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: created by the chromatophores or like the venom connected and yeah,

686
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: it's like I got like an all caps of just

687
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: like please love God, don't help tell people that.

688
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: And I was like, it's a dangerous rumor that everyone's

689
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: talking about.

690
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: It makes me very mad.

691
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: Trending on Twitter every day.

692
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like yeah, yeah, so I guess what I

693
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: actually So I'm gonna be a real sneaky one and

694
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: say that they are caused by the chremetophor.

695
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: No, no, they're not. They're not. So it's funny because

696
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: they're not super aggressive. But if you if they think

697
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: that you're about to eat them, they will kill you

698
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: with the most venomous bite that you can get in

699
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: the ocean. So they are the world's most venomous marine animal.

700
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: They are brimming with neurotoxic tetrodotoxin, which they will release

701
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: into you by biting you with their cute little beak,

702
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: and they have enough venom in their wittle, itty bitty

703
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: bodies to kill around thirty adult humans.

704
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so since we're under quarantine, that's more people that

705
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 2: I've had in person interactions with in five months, which

706
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: is actually, I'm not that cool. That's honestly probably how

707
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: it would have been even without quarantine.

708
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: Insane.

709
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Another thing that's really interesting about bluing octopus venom

710
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: is one of the ways that they hunt their venom

711
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: is soap pot potent. Is they'll basically just drip their

712
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: saliva out of their mouths into the water around them,

713
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: and then fish will swim through the saliva and then

714
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: get instantly realized and they'll be like, oh, this.

715
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: Is easy, Well, don't mind if I do.

716
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, well, I guess if this fish is

717
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 2: paralyzed in front of me, I guess I got it.

718
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: Mind as well. So yeah, And but if it bites you,

719
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: it can kill you within just a few minutes, and

720
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: it kills There's a few things that happens when you

721
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: get that venom in your body, and they're all bad.

722
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: So you can get heart failure, respiratory arrest, and total

723
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: paralysis of your body, and if you're not treated, you

724
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: will most likely die, usually from suffocation because your diaphragm

725
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: is paralyzed and you can't breathe, so you need your diet.

726
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: The contraction of your diaphragm to be able to have

727
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: your lungs function, and if that's not working, you can't

728
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: breathe and you will die. So tetra de toxin, that

729
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 1: neurotoxin that they are love to just like ooze out,

730
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: works by blocking the sodium chain annals that neurons need

731
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: to function, which prevents your brain from sending signals to

732
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: the rest of your body. And you're basically your nervous

733
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: system from working. And yeah, it's bad.

734
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: How many people do you think's last words were, hey, Mark,

735
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: check out this from the octopus?

736
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, probably several.

737
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they'll they'll mess you up.

738
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's no anti venom, so to survive, you

739
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: have to have some form of artificial respiration until the

740
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: toxin works its way out of your body. So if

741
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: you're put on a ventilator or you know, given CPR,

742
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: and you know, basically you have to somehow have someone else,

743
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 1: a medical professional, preferably giving you oxygen until you can

744
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: work that out of your body. And uh yeah, so

745
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,240
Speaker 1: it's it's not a good time. You do not want

746
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: that to happen to you. Do not pick them up.

747
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: I've seen pictures of these in people's hands and they're

748
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: like bright yellow and bright blue spots, which means it's

749
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: pissed and it's like about to bite you. And it's

750
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: just it's like watching videos of people like standing up

751
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 1: on those big satellite towers or something. It's just every

752
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: part of my body is clinching in total anxiety.

753
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 2: I feel like there are a lot of YouTube videos

754
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: of people like feeding bears out of their cars. No,

755
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: it's just like it's just like, oh God, just like

756
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: wait this, and like, am I watching this on YouTube

757
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: or live leaks? Because if it's YouTube, I'm probably fine.

758
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: If it's live leaks, then I'm about to watch.

759
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: A murder, a bear murder.

760
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 2: So what you're telling me about the blue ring octopus

761
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: is that if I were to start a YouTube channel

762
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: where I was getting stung by venomous animals and telling

763
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: you how it felt, I should not start with the

764
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: blue ring octopus.

765
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's you shouldn't start or in with it,

766
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: although if you do end with it, that would, yeah,

767
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: it would. Basically, if you incorporate that into your weird

768
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: show where you try to mutilate yourself with animals, that

769
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 1: will be the end of your show.

770
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, But what I was about to say.

771
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 2: I was about to say something something to the effect

772
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: of like or would it And then I was like, oh, yeah, no, yeah, no,

773
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: it hardly would. I would not survive that thing.

774
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: But in terms of nitpicking over where the tetrato toxin

775
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: is located, like you were talking about where the researcher

776
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 1: was saying, it's not in the chrematophores.

777
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: Stop telling people that.

778
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: So it's actually most of its body is full of

779
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: tetrat to toxin. It's found in almost every organ in

780
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: its body, and it is created in the salivary glands,

781
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: and it is actually produced by a symbiotic bacteria that

782
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: lives in those salivary glands, and it helps them produce

783
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: that toxin. And actually mother blue ringed octopuses will inject

784
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: their eggs full of this tetrata toxin.

785
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: To I hate their babies because.

786
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: They hate their babies. No, it helps them produce their

787
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: own tetrat to toxin. So it's like they're giving them

788
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 1: the bacteria and the recipe to create their own deadly,

789
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: deadly toxin. I love recipes from mom, you.

790
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: Know, I wish my mom pumped me full of tetradoxin

791
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: before I was born.

792
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: Mom, I love your cookie recipes. Could you give me

793
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: something deadlier?

794
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, if I had, If I had deadly venom, Man,

795
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: how would my life be different? Flashback?

796
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: Flashbackflash back, And it's it's immune to its own venom,

797
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: which I guess is good because it otherwise would die.

798
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: One thing I want to add for the blurring octopus

799
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: is if you're like hearing all this information about the

800
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 2: bluing octopus and you're thinking, like, wow, blurring octopus seems real,

801
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: full of himself, deadliest venom, blah blah blah. They actually

802
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 2: are hunted by like mantis shrimp, And if you go online,

803
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 2: you can find a lot of videos of like mantis

804
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: shrimp just using their fists to beat the shit out

805
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: of bluing octopuses.

806
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: Really taking them down a peg.

807
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: And it's it's the most like real life Pokemon, but

808
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: in a way that's not that's weirdly, not like disturbing.

809
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: It's just like, oh, yeah, this bluing octopus is just

810
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 2: or this manta strip is just pummeling this bluing medius.

811
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have a soft spot for octopuses,

812
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: even ones that want to kill me, so I think

813
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: I would be sad to see it just getting punched reputedly.

814
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: Do you think the blurring octopus wants to.

815
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: Kill you or no, No, they don't. They actually they

816
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: kind of go out of the way not to kill you,

817
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: so they will That's why they flash that warning at you.

818
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: They're actually pretty shy. They don't like chase you and

819
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: try to bite you. That it's like, if you pester

820
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: it enough, it will eventually bite you because it thinks

821
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: that you're about to kill it. But yeah, that that

822
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: coloration is actually apisimitism. So it's saying like, hey, I'm

823
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: actually super deadly. You don't want to mess with me.

824
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: Look at me. I'm like yellow and covered in pretty

825
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: blue dots. And then you know it's like, hey, Marth,

826
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: we'll look at this cool octopus. It's so pretty. Yeah,

827
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: under humans, we don't we we don't understand what you're

828
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: telling us. Animals, when you're pretty and bright, we want

829
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: to suck on you like a lollipop.

830
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really want to know, Like how many famous

831
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: last words if people were, hey, check this thing out.

832
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny that you would say that there

833
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: are Like I remember reading about this thing in one

834
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: of my biology classes where it was this guy who

835
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: picked up a couple of cone snails and those are

836
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: also they have very deadly harpoons that they can shoot

837
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: at you with a neurotoxin. And he like picked it

838
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: up and held it up and he's like like said

839
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: something along those lines of like hey, check this out,

840
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: and then it like shot him in his neck, and yeah,

841
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: how is it? Yeah, yeah, it's don't if you don't

842
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: recognize it and it's a wild animal, don't pick it up.

843
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: Actually, unless it looks like a cat, then go nuts,

844
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 2: because it's probably friendly. Right.

845
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: Just have you learned nothing from our catfish section?

846
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: I mean, look everything that I listened to win in

847
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: one ear and then in my mind I just remember

848
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 2: the cat part and then all the other information.

849
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: Just shot it. I've been too busy building the Garfield

850
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: shark world to really retain any of this enormy we

851
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: already established.

852
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: It's called sharkfield.

853
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: Sorry, sharkfield all right? How come it's mostly non mammals

854
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: like invertebrate's fission reptiles who get all the cool deadly venom.

855
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: Mammals can have venoms, such as the slow Loris platypus

856
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: and Solenodon, a cute little shrew like animal with a

857
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: poisonous bite. But most of us mammals are stuck with

858
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: our fur, hair and milk. Well, evolution doesn't really care

859
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: about what we think would be cool. All that matters

860
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: is whether you live to pass on your genes, And

861
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: it turns out mammals have other more effective tools for

862
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: doing that sharp claws, teeth and imprimate hands and a brain,

863
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: which means we can defend ourselves and kill things even

864
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: quicker than most venom works. While it's true that the

865
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: blue ring octopus can kill things in under a minute,

866
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: most venom takes a while to kick in, whereas teeth

867
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: and claws can typically take something down much faster, so

868
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: we don't really need venom to get the job done.

869
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: Whereas an itty bitty, squishy octopus has very few other

870
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: weapons at its disposals, so it needs something to keep

871
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: other fish and marine animals from treating it like a

872
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: living couche ball. When we return, we're getting out of

873
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: the water crawling up on land to talk about a

874
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: couple of very intimidating birdies. So birds, they're adorable, little

875
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: feathery puff balls who chirp and cheap and steel their wridos.

876
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: But once in a while there are bird species that

877
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: remind us that they're actually living dinosaurs. So we're gonna

878
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: meet two big birds and find out if they want

879
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: to teach us about letters or you know, kill us. Joey,

880
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: you know I like birds, right.

881
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm well aware that you were the preeminent bird

882
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: meme creator on the internet.

883
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, the bird memes. It's gonna it's

884
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: gonna go on my tombstone. Like created the bird memes,

885
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: coined the word burb.

886
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 2: Every time I see the word burb on the internet,

887
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 2: like I do think like Golden created that.

888
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: Ah, thank you. I think it's true too. I like

889
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: did a little digging, and I think one of my

890
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: stupid bird tweets was the first to use that term.

891
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: There could have been like parallel creation, you know, like

892
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: parallel invention someone else at the same time. But you know,

893
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: I like to credit myself because it makes me feel

894
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: good and powerful. So powerful.

895
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: Yes, you and you controlled the berb Empire.

896
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: I am in charge of bird memes and soon the world.

897
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: So I want to talk about two birds who look

898
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: I think they both look equally goofy and terrifying. And

899
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: so you're gonna have to pick which one you want

900
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: to just like chill out with and which one you're

901
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: gonna try to avoid. So we have the cassowary and

902
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: the shoe bill stork, and I have provided pictures of

903
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: these guys to you. And the cassawery is a flightless

904
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: bird who looks like a mop with a turkey head.

905
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: And the shoebill stork is a huge stork like bird

906
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: who has a massive beak and looks like the world's

907
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: most terrifying bird muppet.

908
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, shoe bell stork is the animal that

909
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: I would cuddle one because it just like looks it

910
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 2: just like looks like I'm up then too, if I

911
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: remember correctly, cassowaries like kill people by cutting them. I

912
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: also thought that catfish eight people. So I don't know

913
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: what do I know?

914
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have chosen correctly. I think you're three

915
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: for three, right, Congratulations, you have survived the animal gauntlet.

916
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 1: So yes, cassawerries you don't really want to mess with,

917
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: and I will tell you exactly why. So, cassawerries are

918
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: a group of birds similar to the emu, but smaller,

919
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: and they are actually related to the emu. They are

920
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: found in Australia, Indonesia, the Maluku Islands, and Papua New Guinea.

921
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: They grow up to five to six feet tall, so

922
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: that's one point five to two meters and they have

923
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: these bright blue heads, a pink wattle or an orange neck,

924
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: and they basically it looks like a weird turkey head.

925
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: And the females are larger and more brightly colored than

926
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: the males. We yeah, clean slay literally, so they have

927
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: a hard keratin caskue on top of their heads. So

928
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: a cask in birds is it's like this sort of

929
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: like keratin structure and it looks like a shark fin

930
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: on top of their heads. And it speculated that it

931
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: is used as like a resonance chamber for their call.

932
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: And they can run up to thirty miles an hour.

933
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: They can jump up to five feet and they're good swimmers,

934
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: so you cannot escape these these terrible beasts.

935
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 2: It says a lot about how I view the world

936
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: that when you said that, I looked up at the

937
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: castawary picture and then thought My initial thought when seeing

938
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 2: it was like, why is that bird wearing that silly hat,

939
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 2: and then I did not stop to it all analyze.

940
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 2: The thought of just assuming that the bird was wearing

941
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 2: a silly hat was weird, and I was just like, well,

942
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 2: carry it on.

943
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: I think it pulls it off. Honestly, it works it.

944
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good bath.

945
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: But they so they mostly eat fruit, and they are omnivores,

946
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: so they'll eat invertebrates and small vertebrates. They don't hunt people,

947
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: but they can absolutely kill you if they want to,

948
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: if they feel like it. So they, like you said,

949
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: they can cut people because they have an enormous dagger

950
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: on each of their feet. It's like they have switch

951
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: blades attached to their toes. So their inner toe has

952
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: a five inch long sharp claw that can mess you

953
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 1: right up. And they are attached to these incredibly powerful

954
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: legs so they can kick you. They can stomp on

955
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: you while stabbing you.

956
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I would watch a horror movie where the

957
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: slasher movie villain is a cassowary.

958
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about like how Jurassic Parks

959
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: should have looked, where all the dinosaurs had feathers, that's

960
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 1: essentially it, right. It says raptors had feathers.

961
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: You look at that and yell like it was one

962
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 2: hundred percent, like that's just a feathered velociraptor.

963
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: Right right, exactly. Yeah, And they so you would think

964
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: that they're probably just going around murdering everyone. And I

965
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: think that the tails of their deadliness are a little

966
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: bit overblown. So they don't hunt people, they don't go

967
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: around killing everyone. But they are one of the only

968
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: birds to have been definitely documented killing humans. So the

969
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: other birds where there's like actual documentation of them killing

970
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 1: people are maybe EMUs and chickens. To be fair about

971
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: the chicken case is that the chicken had a knife

972
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 1: attached to its foot because it was in an illegal

973
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: cockfight and it killed its owner. I think so in

974
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: that case, the chicken was armed.

975
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also like I don't know, big ups to

976
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: that chicken, like fight the power.

977
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, can't say, I you know, I think the chicken

978
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: was in the right in this case.

979
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that chck The chickens are terrible. Yeah, that chickens

980
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 2: cool as.

981
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: Well part of the chicken revolution.

982
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna believe that that's that's basically chicken chikeovara,

983
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: Like like that chicken used its knife to like to

984
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: like slay its captor. And then now they live on

985
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: a chicken island and they're all.

986
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: Super planted of the chickens. Yeah, like a chicken. Abraham Lincoln, Yeah.

987
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: Like Abraham chick. I don't know you can. I was

988
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 2: trying to.

989
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: Make Abraham link cock. Yeah. No, no, no, that's all right.

990
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 2: Chick chicken laab Lincoln.

991
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: But Lincoln, No, it's not. Yeah, we've got to move on.

992
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 1: We've got to move on. Kill us this bit will no,

993
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: we must.

994
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: We must persevere like the mighty animals that we've talked

995
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 2: to before. That's the persevere.

996
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: So despite actually being capable of killing us, there have

997
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: actually only been two recorded cases of a cassowary killing

998
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: a person since nineteen twenty nine. But they will mess

999
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: you up if you tangle with them, so most of

1000
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: the time, even if they don't kill you, they will

1001
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: give you puncture wounds, broken bones, and lacerations, and they

1002
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: usually attack in self defense. But the other reason that

1003
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: they can be so aggressive is because humans feed them

1004
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: and they become like bears. If you feed bears, they

1005
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 1: will start to become very assertive and very aggressive because

1006
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: they want the food that you give them.

1007
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 2: Honestly, That makes me like cassewerries a little bit more

1008
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: because it's like a cat when it's like when it's like, yeah,

1009
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: six in the morning, and like the cats, just like

1010
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 2: I want reck frist.

1011
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: If you give a cassowarya cookie, it will stab you

1012
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: with its knife feet.

1013
00:56:59,280 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1014
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: The children's book. Yeah, you know I'm a children's author.

1015
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, if you give a casse a cookie, it

1016
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 2: will stab you with its knife.

1017
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: Hook yeah, knife feet yeah. Yeah, my new book.

1018
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd read that book.

1019
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: You should let me know. Let me know in the

1020
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: comments if you want me to write that book. So,

1021
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: they actually will attack cars because they associate them with food,

1022
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: which is a bold move I think. And they will

1023
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: attack dogs unprovoked because often wild dogs are predators. But yeah,

1024
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: if you bring your dog on a walk around where

1025
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: these castawerries live, it can, you know, kill your dog.

1026
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: So don't do that, and don't feed them and just

1027
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: leave them alone.

1028
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: So them attacking cars because they associate them with food

1029
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense. But I want to believe

1030
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 2: that the reason that they attack cars they want to

1031
00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: avenge their falling. Dear brothers, this is for you, dear hey,

1032
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: This is for you, dear.

1033
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: It's another insurance scam. Yeah, these animals out for insurance monies.

1034
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: I get that.

1035
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: So now let's talk about the shoe bill stork. So,

1036
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: shoe bills look like terrifying, gray, feathery, dinosaur like storks

1037
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: with huge boat shaped bills. They're called shoe like. The

1038
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: descriptions are like their bills are shaped like shoes. I

1039
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: don't know what kind of shoes people are wearing. I

1040
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: guess these kind of look like wooden clogs maybe.

1041
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say like clogs. They look they

1042
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: look like I mean, honestly, they look not dissimilar to

1043
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: a lot of like Kanye West's shoe designs. A easy Yeah,

1044
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: they look they look a lot like Easy's. So it's

1045
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: like the.

1046
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: Easy bills short the easy bill stork.

1047
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: I mean, if they changed this name to the easy

1048
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: bill stork, I wouldn't hate it.

1049
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: These easy bills. Yeah, so they actually are not storks.

1050
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: They are more closely related to pell plans, and they

1051
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: grow up to five feet tall with a seven to

1052
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: eight foot wingspan, and they can totally fly, and they

1053
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: live in the swamps in eastern tropical Africa. So yeah,

1054
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: they are very intimidating looking birds, But at the same

1055
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: time they kind of look like a huge muppet, which

1056
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: is like it's like scary and cute and you're it's

1057
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: very confusing, and they have these like their eyes somehow

1058
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: have this expression of just like fierceness. It's hard to explain.

1059
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,439
Speaker 1: It doesn't look it doesn't look scary like it's gonna

1060
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: attack you. It looks intimidating, like it's super wise. And

1061
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: if you don't answer it's riddle correctly, you will just

1062
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: like disintegrate.

1063
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: Uh, well, what do you think it's riddle is? And

1064
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 2: do you think it's about fish?

1065
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: Where should you charge me? Put it on my bill?

1066
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: Oh, that's good, that's a good riddle. Actually, Like I'm

1067
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: looking at more pictures of them, and they look they

1068
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: look very much like a human wearing a bird costume.

1069
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's that. It's a little uncanny, right, It's

1070
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: an uncanny. That's kind of why they look like a

1071
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: big muppet, like a big bird, like the first draft

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Speaker 1: of Big Bird. That's like oddly terrifying or something.

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Speaker 2: It looks like they're like their legs look very bird like.

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Speaker 2: Their upper body it's like you can almost see pectoral

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Speaker 2: muscles and it looks like it looks like they have shoulders.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which they you know, it's just the wings.

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01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, it looks doesn't It looks off. It looks

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Speaker 1: a little uncanny.

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Speaker 2: Although I'm just scrolling through Google Images, I found a

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Speaker 2: picture of one opening its mouth and it's the cutest

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Speaker 2: dan thing Like. It definitely looks like it's saying like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Well, the way it says hey guys, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Is making machine gun noises with their.

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Speaker 2: What what is that? That's insane? Is that edited in anyway?

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Speaker 1: No? No, no, So it's called bill clattering, and it

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01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: is a greeting to communicate with each other. It can

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01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: be used like as a mating call to loom mates

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Speaker 1: to alert other birds that this is their territory, and

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Speaker 1: it can be used by nestlings as well to communicate

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Speaker 1: with adults and vice versa. So basically like their high honey,

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Speaker 1: I'm home, is just machine gun noises that they make

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Speaker 1: by clattering their bills.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember paper planes by m I A.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. All I want to do is bang bang bang

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Speaker 1: bang and eat lots of fish.

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Speaker 2: I really want to hear the shoebill stork edit of

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Speaker 2: Paper Planes.

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Speaker 1: By the Shoebill Stork cover of m I A Yeah,

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01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: and Eat your Salmon. There's a there's an all animal

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Speaker 1: cover of Drowning Pool. Let the Bodies hit the floor.

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Speaker 1: It's very good. I'll show it to you after the show.

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Speaker 1: Very good. But so they do hunt, but they hunt fish,

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Speaker 1: baby crocodiles, eels, and monitor lizards. So they're not joking

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Speaker 1: around when it comes to hunting in the swamp, and

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Speaker 1: their way of hunting is actually kind of creepy. So

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Speaker 1: they will stand perfectly still waiting to ambush their prey,

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Speaker 1: and it's almost they're kind of like the you know,

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01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,479
Speaker 1: like the Doctor who Weeping Angels, because they're like they're

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Speaker 1: gray and they stand really still. And they do literally

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01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: look like a concrete or marble statue, just like sitting

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Speaker 1: in the swamp.

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Speaker 2: That's something that I'm noticing even just scrolling through photos

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Speaker 2: of them, is like they really do look like statuesque

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01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: like they look they look like not like real creatures.

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01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: And yeah, I would one hundred percent walk past this

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01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: thing and think, oh, what a weird statue. And then

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Speaker 2: hero A machine guns sound as it guns me down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, I mean and for these the fish and

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Speaker 1: little reptiles that they eat, and even baby crocodiles. They

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Speaker 1: will wait around and when they see their prey, they

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Speaker 1: will jump out of statue mode, lunge at them, and

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Speaker 1: open those huge beaks that look like these like weird

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01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: boats and engulf their prey and basically anything within you know,

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Speaker 1: about a foot radius of their prey, so like they'll

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Speaker 1: get a bunch of water and mud and vegetation and

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Speaker 1: everything in that beak, and then they start to use

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Speaker 1: their beak as like a big colander and they shake

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01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: their head back and forth, draining everything out of their

1130
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: beak that isn't their live prey, and then they decapitate

1131
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: the prey with the edges of their sharp beak.

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01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: Jesus, wow, this Big Bird first cut got real dark.

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01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: Jim Henson was, Yeah, he was. He got pretty dark

1134
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: with those early versions of Sesame Street.

1135
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: Jim Henson was going through some shit.

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01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, So they are like a horror villain

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Speaker 1: for all of the small critters living in the swamp,

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01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: but around humans, they're really harmless and somewhat tolerant of us,

1139
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: and they are totally docile. They're non aggressive, and they're

1140
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Speaker 1: actually a favorite among bird watchers for how easygoing they

1141
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: are around observers, and like the most intimidating thing they'll

1142
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: do is like get into a staring contest with you

1143
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: and just like stare at you. And it's I feel

1144
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: like I would I would poop myself if this giant,

1145
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: weird statue bird was just staring at me. But yeah,

1146
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't typically attack humans. They just like

1147
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: they're like, nah, you get the idea, like you're not

1148
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: gonna mess with me.

1149
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: I know we've done a little bit of friendship shipping

1150
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 2: before this, But do you think a shoe build, a

1151
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 2: shoebill stork, and a garial crocodile would get along because

1152
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 2: they're both shy?

1153
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, because like the shoebill does eat baby crocodiles,

1154
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: so I feel like that would be a point against it. Like,

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01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to get along with you, dude,

1156
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: but like you ate my babies and that's kind of

1157
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: not chill.

1158
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I get that. So basically that that's

1159
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 2: a that's a buddy movie where they learn to trust

1160
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: each other, got it.

1161
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: I do feel like the the shoebill and the basking

1162
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: shark would get along really because it's like, hey, you

1163
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: got a big mouth. I got a big mouth. Hey

1164
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: look at our big mouths.

1165
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: I want to see the the Tom and Jerry relaunch.

1166
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 2: That's just a shoebill stork and a gario crocodile. I'd

1167
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: watch that. That'd be fun.

1168
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it wouldn't be really Yeah. I guess

1169
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: like a baby, So a baby gariol and a shoebill stork,

1170
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: because then that that would be sort of the predator

1171
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: prey thing. But then like the baby grows up to

1172
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: be really big and then it's like uh oh, but

1173
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: then he's just a shy, shy guy. There's there was

1174
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,439
Speaker 1: that like Disney movie similar to that. What was it called?

1175
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: It was a Lambert the Sheepish Lion, and it's like

1176
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,439
Speaker 1: this like lion gets adopted by a sheep, it grows

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01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: up to be big and then like kills a wolf

1178
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 1: or something and everybody loves them. But he's like, you know,

1179
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 1: very sheepish.

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01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I uh, I vaguely remember that movie.

1181
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh more Disney lies about the behaviors of animals.

1182
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like, you know, I mean, that's the

1183
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: thing about the Lion King is like none of those

1184
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 2: animals would actually be able to be friends, nor can

1185
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:28,919
Speaker 2: they sing.

1186
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean it. Lions do occasionally like adopt prey animals,

1187
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: but then they often end up eating them anyways. Yeah,

1188
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: it's like maybe they would tolerate zazu for a while

1189
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: and then just like you know, I'm just gonna eat

1190
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: you today. It's Today's the day. You've been in my

1191
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: ear about our infrastructure budget for like way too long,

1192
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: and I am gonna eat you.

1193
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 2: But that's like, that's one of the things I love

1194
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: about cats is like you'll be petnam they'll be like

1195
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 2: really loving it, and then they're just no time to bite.

1196
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, house cats are just little tiny wildcats. If

1197
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: they were big, they would maul us every day. Ah

1198
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: cute cute, yes, But you know, if you if you like,

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Speaker 1: I wish man now, I want a domesticated version of

1200
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: like the garial crocodile, just like a little one, you know,

1201
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: to cuddle.

1202
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be I guess that of these animals,

1203
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: just based on like appearances, let's be very shallow here,

1204
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: which of these animals would you want to cuddle the most?

1205
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: Okay, again with the disclaimer that you should never cuddle

1206
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: a wild animal. But we're on an imagination journey. I

1207
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: would say, hmmm, so we have now are we including

1208
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: the deadly ones or just the ones that aren't deadly?

1209
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 2: I guess that it's we're including all of them, and

1210
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: it's this is a world where you have protections against

1211
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 2: whatever makes them deadly.

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Speaker 1: I see, Well, I don't know. I actually I think

1213
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: it would be the Shoebill. I love this fricking muppet.

1214
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: It's so good. It's just it's so goofy, and I

1215
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: love the like scary goofiness of it. It's like aggressively goofy,

1216
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: but it's not aggressive, so that's what's so wonderful about it.

1217
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 2: For appearances, I would say immediately Catfish because it has

1218
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 2: the word cat in it. But like, realistically, I feel

1219
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 2: like the Shoebill Stork is the one that I would like.

1220
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 2: It just looks like a muffet.

1221
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1222
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 2: I would like pat it on the back and say

1223
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 2: good job, And then it would make something that would

1224
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 2: make a machine gun noise and I'd be like, classic, oh.

1225
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: You feel like we'd go fishing together with a couple

1226
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 1: of bruskis. It'd be wearing one of those like fishing

1227
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 1: hats that's got the tackle dangling from it, and you

1228
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: know we'd be just like sharing a beard, talking about

1229
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: our lives, you know, laughing about stuff.

1230
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: I'd use its machine gun sounding beak to wrap a bank.

1231
01:08:55,560 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: It would be great, a real Bonnie and Clyde situation. Yeah, yeah, fun,

1232
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 1: I love it. Well, thank you so much for joining

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01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: me today, Joey and learning which animals are friends and

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01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: which ones. Well, they're still our friends, but they would

1235
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: kill us if we were route.

1236
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't say they were good friends.

1237
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: No, no, I mean we didn't say they were doormat friends.

1238
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: They will assert themselves. Got anything to plug?

1239
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can follow me on Twitter at Joey Tainment,

1240
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,759
Speaker 2: follow me on Instagram at Joey Cliff with like five eyes.

1241
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 2: And then this is some context of a thing I'm

1242
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 2: about to plug. I for a long time have been

1243
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: annoyed at sufi On Stevens for not finishing his fifty

1244
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 2: States project. He's a folk musician who was popular in

1245
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,600
Speaker 2: the mid two thousands, and he said he was going

1246
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: to make a full album of music for every single

1247
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 2: US state, but he gave up after two albums. So

1248
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 2: this has been sticking in my cra since two thousand

1249
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 2: and five, so for fifteen years, and finally at the

1250
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 2: start of Quarantine, I decided to finish Soufi on Stevens

1251
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 2: fifty States project with the help of the Internet, and

1252
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 2: I did.

1253
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: It, so you drag him.

1254
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you can go on SoundCloud dot com slash

1255
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 2: our fifty States project and listen to fifty three albums

1256
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 2: and two weeps for every an album for every US state,

1257
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 2: double album for Rhode Island, an album for the Moon

1258
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 2: because there's a US flag up there. So we got

1259
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: EPs for Washington, DUC. Yeah, the moon's a state, it'll

1260
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 2: be a state. An EP for Washington, DC. In Puerto Rico.

1261
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 2: It's five hundred and ten songs. This took me two

1262
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 2: months of NonStop work. So check it out. Listen, look,

1263
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: check out the sissif the Sissipis project I dedicated myself

1264
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 2: to to get through quarantine.

1265
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: That sounds incredible and worrying.

1266
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 2: Actually, oh yeah, it's definitely a cry for help in someway.

1267
01:10:54,320 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: Yes, you can find us on Instagram at Creature your

1268
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 1: Pod and I will be posting pictures of all of

1269
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 1: these adorable scary animals there. And you can find us

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01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: also on Twitter at Creature Feet Pod. That's feat not

1271
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Speaker 1: fee t. That is something very different, And you can

1272
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Katie Golden with my Katie thoughts,

1273
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: not necessarily related to the show at all, just you know,

1274
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 1: my Katie opinions, and I am also pro bird rights,

1275
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: where I you know, basically make the case that all

1276
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: birds should be respected, whether they're the cassowary and they're

1277
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: trying to kill you or the shoe bill stork and

1278
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: they're staring at you creepily through the window right now.

1279
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to you guys. If

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Speaker 1: you're enjoying the show, Yeah, just like if you leave

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Speaker 1: a review and a rating, that actually really really helps

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Speaker 1: out a whole lot. Thanks to the Space Classics for

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Speaker 1: their super awesome song Exulumina. Creature features a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: To listen to more podcasts like the one you just heard,

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Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio website, iHeartRadio app, or guess what where

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Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite podcast. See you next Wednesday.