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Speaker 2: The forty nine ers have struck gold in more ways

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Speaker 2: than one. Monsie, Happy Monday.

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Speaker 3: How are you Happy Monday?

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Speaker 4: It's the weirdest Monday of the year, right like in

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Speaker 4: between Christmas and New Year's where like you have to

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Speaker 4: go back to normal, but just for a few days

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Speaker 4: because New Year's is just around the corner.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people taking the vacation from last week

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Speaker 2: carrying it into this week with the new year. School

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Speaker 2: still out, kids are around, kids are everywhere. Isaac Glowing

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Speaker 2: cron is everywhere. Jason Stewart's here, Mark Ramsey is here.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna leave, He's gonna be done after fifteen minutes

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Speaker 2: to be like I'm out of here, that's right, sick

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Speaker 2: of this crap.

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Speaker 3: But then he's gonna tune on on the drive home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, yeah, Chrisopher Federal takeover. But it is

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Speaker 2: a it is a funky Monday, for sure, the last

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Speaker 2: Monday of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. Somebody I saw on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: I think it was the NFL network that was like

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Speaker 4: the last Sunday of the NFL in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 4: and people were like, what do you mean there's football

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Speaker 4: next Sunday And it was like, oh, because it's gonna

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Speaker 4: be twenty twenty six, Like I also missed that, that

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Speaker 4: one right over my head.

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Speaker 3: What do we talk about there?

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Speaker 5: Ya?

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Speaker 2: There are insiders who will love to They sit by

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Speaker 2: their phone, yes on July twenty fifth, because the next

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Speaker 2: Thursday is the Hall of Fame game, And then they say,

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Speaker 2: this is your last Thursday without football until February of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Like that's that's what they's waiting for that.

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Speaker 2: And then you're like, well, that's not necessarily true because

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Speaker 2: we don't have Thursday games during the playoffs. There's also

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Speaker 2: only three preseason games, so we kind of have a

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Speaker 2: week off. But if you want to count college, that's

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Speaker 2: that's with you, and however you want to deal with it.

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Speaker 2: But there are people. There's someone who was waiting to

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Speaker 2: send that Monday tweet say it was the first thing

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Speaker 2: they did. They didn't even check their notifications. They may

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Speaker 2: have done a search to see if anybody else tweeted it,

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Speaker 2: and then send it out themselves. Elves. If they would

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Speaker 2: have looked at their notifications, they probably would have said,

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Speaker 2: man Brock Perty's good will. Brock Party did it again.

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Speaker 2: Rock Party missed their five touchdowns himself. All of those things.

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Speaker 2: I guess we're appropriate considering last night's when against the

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Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, where Perty had two touchdown runs to go

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Speaker 2: along with this three touchdowns in the air. He had

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Speaker 2: five touchdowns on Monday a week ago against the Colts.

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Speaker 2: Those were all thrown. But the forty nine ers are

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Speaker 2: rolling and they're doing so behind their newly paid quarterback.

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Speaker 4: He is it.

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Speaker 3: He is their dude.

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Speaker 4: And I think you and I sat here Dan the

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Speaker 4: day he got extended, and there were discussions about brock Party,

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Speaker 4: whether how much he was gonna get paid, whether he

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Speaker 4: could find somebody better because injury prone, can't he play,

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Speaker 4: you know, in the weather, because what he has small hands?

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Speaker 4: All the things that people wanted to like criticize brock

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Speaker 2: You know, wait, does he have small He actually did.

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Speaker 3: He has small hands. But then again, I you know.

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Speaker 2: Can we type that from a work computer? Are we safe?

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Speaker 2: Jason Stewart or I'm not sure if that is. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure if that is appropriate or not, but I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what you made an allegation. I know he's

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Speaker 2: not big in stature. I just didn't know Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 2: We know his small hands, that's why you wore gloves

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Speaker 2: for a better grip on the football. But you think

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Speaker 2: that brock Party is small hand?

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Speaker 4: I do, I do, But then again, you know I

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Speaker 4: also have Kawhi Leonard on my Clippers team, who has

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Speaker 4: has the longest hands that I've ever seen. So maybe

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Speaker 4: that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: Isaac Lohan Kron might actually have the information.

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Speaker 4: To whether brock Party doesn't hit factap small hands, or

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Speaker 4: if I've just made that up.

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Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio hand insider Isaac Lohan Khan here uh.

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Speaker 6: Brock Party's hand size is nine and a quarter inches, which,

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Speaker 6: according to his draft report, is considered quote average or

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Speaker 6: slightly below average from a foreign NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Back to you, Thank you, Isaac Loehankron. So I'm not

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Speaker 3: Maybe just the.

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Speaker 2: I searched brock Perty's hands and saw the AI recap

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Speaker 2: that Isaac long Kron did verbatim like, so yes, so

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Speaker 2: we're all similar to Patrick Mahomes right, that's what that's

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Speaker 2: what the that's what AI is telling us with Brock Parties. Yes,

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Speaker 4: He's saying, yes, okay, Well, all the things that were

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Speaker 4: he is the guy. And then some yesterday watching him

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Speaker 4: watching him adjust, whether it was that he had to

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Speaker 4: and give it credit to Kyle Shanahan because knowing the

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Speaker 4: pieces that they have lost throughout the season, no George

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Speaker 4: Kittle yesterday, the plugging in and out of players that

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Speaker 4: they've had to do. And it wasn't like the San

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Speaker 4: about Caleb Williams and his performance, but at the same time,

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Speaker 4: San Francisco's defense is not great.

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Speaker 3: They they're last in sacks.

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Speaker 4: So was he really out there scrambling for his life

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Speaker 3: Brock Purty was. I just was like, brock Purty is

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Speaker 4: And then I I was like, is it crazy to

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Speaker 4: say it's the best NFL pick of all time?

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady would argue, and that's.

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Speaker 3: Why I that's why I didn't.

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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I think the stature of mister Irrelevant

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Speaker 2: and for what he has turned into, would would make

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Speaker 2: an argument at least for a second place. Finished.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and then it looks like I San Francisco could

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Speaker 4: win this. I don't think I would have thought that

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Speaker 2: I don't think so either. And I don't think that

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Speaker 2: I know you gave the report yesterday here on Fox

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Speaker 2: if that's going to be the case. But they need

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Speaker 2: to be an offensive football team if they're going to win, correct, correct,

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Speaker 2: because the defense, for the pieces that they're missing, that

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Speaker 2: is how they've gotten it done so far this season.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear from Kyle Shanahan, who talked about his quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: performance last night against the Bears.

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Speaker 7: I thought brock out a hell of a game. Again,

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Speaker 7: I'm Brockton, playing his ass off, made some huge plays

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Speaker 7: in this game, kept some drives alive with his legs,

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Speaker 7: made some off scheduled plays, and was an assassin out

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Speaker 2: Now, if you look at Mac Jones's numbers, because that's

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Speaker 2: the that's when you're looking to compare players. Were Rock

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Speaker 2: Purty's numbers or Mac Jones's numbers comparable to what Rock

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Speaker 2: Purty has done this season? And when you would look

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Speaker 2: at the numbers, yes, but when you watch what happens

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Speaker 2: right like, that's what you're talking about. Honestly, when you

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Speaker 2: watch Caleb Williams, who is mobile fleet a foot fast

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Speaker 2: for an NFL quarterback, can move, can get that first down,

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Speaker 2: but when he's like hi knee out of tackles, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't look as graceful where brock Purty almost looks like

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Speaker 2: he's on figure sk a figure skater. He's on skates.

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Speaker 2: He's just he's gliding. He's moving here. Joe Montana's nickname

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Speaker 2: was Joe Cool. There's a lot of that to brock Party.

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Speaker 2: So when you watch him, not only are the numbers pleasing,

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Speaker 2: it's not funky. All of it is smooth, and he

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Speaker 2: does have the Listen, the first pass of the game

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Speaker 2: So the Bears were opportunistic in that point, but didn't

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Speaker 2: let it bother him on his way to having a

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Speaker 3: I like how you said that it does.

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Speaker 4: He makes it look easy, and at the same time,

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Speaker 4: it's like he doesn't look the way like Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 3: Has some scrambles where you're like, how did you do that?

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Speaker 4: There's no question about it, right, But the athleticism for

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Speaker 4: Caleb Williams maybe because we've seen it in college, and

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Speaker 4: with Rock Purty it's like, who was Brock Purty? Uh

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Speaker 4: So with Caleb Williams, like, yeah, we see that you're

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Speaker 4: the number one over all pick for a reason. With

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Speaker 4: Rock Purty you're like, how did you It didn't even

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Speaker 4: look like you tried, almost like a like a not

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Speaker 4: an the same attitude because I jokingly always say that

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Speaker 4: Nicola Jokic is mad that he has to play basketball.

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Speaker 4: He's out there all annoyed and like but playing, you know,

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Speaker 3: I feel like Brock Pertty.

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Speaker 4: Like it looks so like he's not even trying, but

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Speaker 4: so impressed with him honestly yesterday and I just was like,

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Speaker 4: I think San Francisco actually could win this.

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Speaker 3: And I would not have said that five weeks.

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Speaker 2: An By this you're talking about winning it all?

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Speaker 4: Yes, And I would not have said that again five

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Speaker 4: six weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Brock Party has made you believe that he is the

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Speaker 2: one that can end this thirty year drought.

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Speaker 3: Yes, for San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: I think he plays in a way that they're this

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Speaker 2: is the end of this run. But he plays in

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Speaker 2: out phase two of this forty nine ers And I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that phase one is over with, but Phase

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Speaker 2: easiest schedule in the NFL. When I checked a week ago,

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Speaker 2: not sure what the up to date strength of schedule

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Speaker 2: is but still bottom third. But they did play against

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Speaker 2: a division of the AFC South that is a lot

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Speaker 2: better than we thought this year. But I didn't think

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Speaker 2: it was going to be this year for San Francisco

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Speaker 2: because of age, because of their players and you know,

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Speaker 2: Trent Williams got hurt last night. They're all getting older.

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Speaker 2: So at some point there's going to be a point

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Speaker 2: where there is no Christian McCaffrey, there is no Trent Williams,

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Speaker 2: there is no Nick Bosa, but there is brock Purdy, right,

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Speaker 2: and so the play of how he's played the last

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Speaker 2: two games makes me think that you may not be

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Speaker 2: brock Purdy is going to be there. And there were

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Speaker 2: points played against Carolina this year, was picked off three times,

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Speaker 2: A lot of coach speak, yeah, but smooth again and

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, to Fox Sports Radio. Do you know what

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Speaker 9: I have no idea. I know I wasn't okay trying

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Speaker 2: That's all right, don't worry. Last night, Bill's down one,

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Speaker 9: I agreed with the decision. I don't know where that's

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Speaker 9: going to come out, sir, here we go, I do.

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Speaker 9: I just think, look, you've got one play from a

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Speaker 9: He just missed him. He doesn't missed him very often,

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Speaker 2: And that's all the time we have for Tom Tolesco.

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Speaker 2: Just kidding. Four two. Jason Stewart and I are out

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Speaker 4: Thank you Tom, Because now Dan owes me something Starbucks.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, Vid he owes me something.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Let's move on.

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Speaker 4: This DK Metcalf situation seems messier and messier every single day.

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Speaker 9: and he had some injuries himself. But what you're seeing

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Speaker 9: last night is what he can do and he's really

438
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Speaker 9: not a standing player.

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Speaker 4: Is Todd Bowles in the hot seat?

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Speaker 9: Boy? I wouldn't think so. I just think, you know,

441
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Speaker 9: people are so quick to I guess, to put people

442
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Speaker 9: in the hot seat, But no, he's an outstanding head

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Speaker 9: coach and He's proven that year after year and he's

444
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Speaker 9: a really good defensive mind. So what's going on there

445
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Speaker 9: right now? I don't understand it. There's just they're just

446
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Speaker 9: not playing the way that they're capable and usually how

447
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Speaker 9: they play and sometimes thinks snowball and not every year

448
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Speaker 9: is going to be a great year. But I just

449
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Speaker 9: think he's a good coach. They have a really good

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Speaker 9: staff there. I don't I can't put my finger on

451
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Speaker 9: exactly what the issue is. I know that was a

452
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Speaker 9: tough loss, but they're still in it. But no, I

453
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Speaker 9: don't see that at all. I think he's a really good,

454
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Speaker 9: really good head coach in this league.

455
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Speaker 2: Tom Talaska joining us here on Fox Sports Radio kind

456
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Speaker 2: of along those lines, how would you evaluate Aaron Glenn

457
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Speaker 2: and the Jets, especially after yesterday's the moralizing loss to

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Speaker 2: the Patriots and his future with the team.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, those are difficult because when you hire a head coach,

460
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Speaker 9: you have to be thinking more than one year. There's

461
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Speaker 9: a big transition that that goes on. And he's still

462
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Speaker 9: he's not you know, he's learning to be a head

463
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Speaker 9: coach on the run, which you know, which it happens

464
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Speaker 9: when your first time might coach Obviously some things you

465
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Speaker 9: have to learn on the run. But the last month

466
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Speaker 9: or so, it's just been they haven't been competitive. So

467
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Speaker 9: it's tough to sit through for a front offerae or ownership.

468
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Speaker 9: I know that. But you know, you put a plan together.

469
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Speaker 9: There's the reason why you hired him as a head coach. Obviously,

470
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Speaker 9: they made some changes in personnel throughout the year that

471
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Speaker 9: weaken them for the short term. Hopefully it was strengthen

472
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Speaker 9: them for the long term. But but you know, they

473
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Speaker 9: sent some pretty good players out the door, and look,

474
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Speaker 9: they weren't playing with the quarterback yesterday and haven't played

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Speaker 9: with the quarterbacks for a couple of weeks and really

476
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Speaker 9: for the year. So it's hard to put, you know,

477
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Speaker 9: a really competitive product on the field when you sent

478
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Speaker 9: out some really good defensive players and you haven't set

479
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Speaker 9: on a quarterback yet. So you have to stick with

480
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Speaker 9: the plan, as hard.

481
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Speaker 3: As it is.

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Speaker 9: You just can't wait for the season to be over

483
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Speaker 9: so you can start working on next year. And that's

484
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Speaker 9: what we're both get working on real soon. And they

485
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Speaker 9: have a lot of draft picks. I assume they should

486
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Speaker 9: have some cap space with the players they sent out,

487
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Speaker 9: and we get moving next year, but they have to

488
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Speaker 9: show some market improvement next year.

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Speaker 3: Who is your coach of the year?

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Speaker 9: You know, there's so many of this. Yeah, I know,

491
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Speaker 9: I'm I guess I'm part of the media now, but

492
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Speaker 9: I'm not really big on, you know, ranking them. But

493
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Speaker 9: there's there's so many between Graybull and Cohen and Ben

494
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Speaker 9: Johnson and Mike McDonald, Kylie Shanahan and me you wanted

495
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Speaker 9: last night with what they did and with with what

496
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Speaker 9: they're dealing with. I mean, all of these guys should

497
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Speaker 9: be a coach of the year. Sean Payton, I know

498
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Speaker 9: that he could be, like now only as a head,

499
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Speaker 9: as a coach of the year, but just team building,

500
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Speaker 9: working with George Peyton, what they've what they've done in

501
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Speaker 9: Denver the last couple of years, and honestly, even Dave

502
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Speaker 9: Kanalis in Carolina with what they've done. I thought Carolina

503
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Speaker 9: was still a couple of years away from competing with

504
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Speaker 9: their roster and they've done the outstanding job. So I mean,

505
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Speaker 9: I'd say there's you know, six or seven you can

506
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Speaker 9: make a case for which is great in this league.

507
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Speaker 9: But you know, there's always that recency bias. And he

508
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Speaker 9: watched San Francisco last night. It's hard to say that

509
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Speaker 9: Kyla Shanahan shouldn't be the head, it shouldn't be the

510
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Speaker 9: coach of the year.

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Speaker 2: See, we aren't always trying to fire head coaches. We're

512
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Speaker 2: also trying to lift them up right. And look there

513
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Speaker 2: you got the coach of the year.

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Speaker 9: Tom.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate the time, Happy New Year, best of luck

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, and can't wait to talk to

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Speaker 2: you again. Appreciate it sounds good.

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Speaker 9: Thank you, happy to you're the both of you.

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Speaker 2: least the comparison from Brock Perty's hands to Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: as Moncey categorized Brock Purty as a small handed quarterback.

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Speaker 10: Yes, so you confirm that Purty is like average to

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Speaker 10: below average. And then I thought you had said, are

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Speaker 10: you guys also seeing Patrick Mahomes in your AI search? Yes,

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Speaker 10: so I followed up on that Patrick Mahomes is well

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Speaker 10: within the range of hand size, so.

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Speaker 11: He's he's not not so And I think we probably

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Speaker 11: needed that so we wouldn't hear from Patrick Mahomes's lawyers

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Speaker 11: in putting him in the same category.

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Speaker 2: Right, There will be zero hand measurements of mind going

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Speaker 2: like Ryan, turn it on and enjoy your holiday break

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Speaker 2: off with us here on Fox Sports Radio. You know

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Speaker 2: who's not enjoying it today. The Buffalo Bills. After rallying

563
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Speaker 2: from a thirteen to nothing deficit to pull within one

564
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Speaker 2: of the Philadelphia Eagles, the Bills decided to go for

565
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Speaker 2: two in a thirteen to twelve ball game, only to

566
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Speaker 2: see Josh Allen's pass to Khalil Shakir fall well shortened

567
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Speaker 2: to the end zone, and Philadelphia survived a victory, survived,

568
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Speaker 2: Buffalo survived, the weather, survived all of it with a

569
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Speaker 2: thirteen to twelve win. This was Sean McDermott explaining why

570
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Speaker 2: he went for two in that situation late in the

571
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Speaker 2: game yesterday in Buffalo. Ye when ended the decision, Sean and.

572
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Speaker 5: Goes to it the end I want to be aggressive

573
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Speaker 5: going for the win. Oh you you feel like you

574
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Speaker 5: know only a certain amount of time left at that point, and.

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Speaker 9: So like we had a great, great.

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Speaker 5: Call, great opportunity to go win it, and I'm going

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Speaker 5: to be aggressive. So I'm not gonna sit back.

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Speaker 1: Did get blocked earlier impact your.

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Speaker 5: Decision of making Potentially it wasn't everything, But I trust

580
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Speaker 5: Josh Allen with the ball in his hands, and I

581
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Speaker 5: do it over again.

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Speaker 2: Those are such cop out answers. Yes, trying to be aggressive.

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Speaker 2: Why were you going one hundred and twenty on the freeway.

584
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Speaker 2: It's trying to be aggressive. Officer is trying to be

585
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Speaker 2: an aggressive driver, Like, no, you didn't need to go

586
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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty, just like you didn't need to

587
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Speaker 2: go for two. You were doing just fine as you were.

588
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Speaker 2: And in fact, the team that was actually on the edge,

589
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Speaker 2: we're the Philadelphia Eagles. You think the Eagles wanted to

590
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 2: play anymore? You know, many passes they completed in the second.

591
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Speaker 3: Half is zero zero zero.

592
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Speaker 2: They didn't complete a pass in the second half, So

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Speaker 2: you kick the extra point. We're gonna go piece by piece.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry because there's everything that Sean McDermott said, there

595
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Speaker 2: is blowney, let's start it again.

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Speaker 5: The decision Sean hand goes to it. Yet, want to

597
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Speaker 5: be aggressive going for the win?

598
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Speaker 2: Pause? Yeah, sorry, different type of pause, but you know

599
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Speaker 2: what I mean, going for the win.

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Speaker 4: That's what they were doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were at home. You had all the momentum.

602
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Speaker 2: You as the Buffalo Bills, had no trouble moving the football.

603
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: You Buffalo Bills were able to complete passes.

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Speaker 4: You were able to do so why not in the game.

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00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 4: Momentum is on their side, So just stop it? All right, great,

606
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 4: let's listen.

607
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: Show is on your side as a whole, not in

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Speaker 2: one play. Now, in one play, you don't do that

609
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Speaker 2: on a two point conversion. The old adage, because this

610
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: is what Sean McDermott is hiding behind. The old adage,

611
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Speaker 2: is play for the tie at home, go for the

612
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Speaker 2: win on the road. But guess what when you say

613
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Speaker 2: you're being aggressive, Manzi, when you're trying to get that win,

614
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Speaker 2: that that's gonna satisfy everyone. No, you are the one

615
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Speaker 2: to tell your kids to stop eating cheetos at nine

616
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: forty five at night, that like you have the authority.

617
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: You have the authority to tell your team. We're gonna

618
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Speaker 2: play it safe here. I am the adults in charge.

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Speaker 2: We are going to kick the extra point. And by

620
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Speaker 2: saying that, we're being aggressive. Yeah, it sounds great on

621
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Speaker 2: the surface, but it is not what that situation required.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hindsight is twain twenty because what if you would

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Speaker 4: have caught that, what would be sitting.

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Speaker 2: Here saying what, Well, yeah, Bill's.

625
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Speaker 3: He was open, he was open.

626
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Speaker 4: Josh Allen did not make the throw. And if that

627
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 4: game was a bad game on both for both teams.

628
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 4: The weather was awful, So I don't want to go

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Speaker 4: to overtime against a defending national super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Champion, may end up tying. Yeah, because as opposed to

631
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Speaker 2: losing on a play, because we also know.

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Speaker 4: The Bills defense isn't all that there, So it's like

633
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Speaker 4: one break off and that's it.

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Speaker 11: They didn't completely pass in the second half, and then

635
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 11: in the first half the Bills got shut out.

636
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Speaker 4: I feel like a break and resetting everything into overtime

637
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 4: was not necessarily the slam dunk that maybe you thought

638
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Speaker 4: in the moment, And I said, yesterday you were on

639
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Speaker 4: with Kerry Rhoades for end Zone Radio and quickly at

640
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Speaker 4: the news desk, you asked me, would you have gone

641
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Speaker 4: for two? And I said yes, in that moment, I

642
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: thought I would have gone for two. So I felt

643
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Speaker 4: like that yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought you would sleep on it and

645
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Speaker 2: realize you were wrong and then come back today and

646
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: be like, you know what, Dan, you were right. No,

647
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Speaker 2: let's listen to some more, Sean, Go ahead, Sean, let's

648
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Speaker 2: let's hear this one.

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Speaker 5: You know, you can feel like you know on a

650
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Speaker 5: certain amount of time left.

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Speaker 2: At that point, and yeah, there were five seconds that

652
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Speaker 2: has nothing to do with anything, that has nothing to

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Speaker 2: do with anything. In fact, they had a play that

654
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Speaker 2: was uh that ended up at least I thought was

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Speaker 2: that where they had the review and they had to

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Speaker 2: take some time off anyway, the point the runoff yea,

657
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Speaker 2: uh huh yeah, so there was there was the review

658
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Speaker 2: on the big playdown field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh Josh Allen going into the end zone and

660
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Speaker 3: then he did it? Was that the one right before,

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Speaker 3: right right that he got stopped right before?

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Speaker 2: Yes, So let's let's let's hear from more.

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Speaker 5: So, like, we had a great, great call, great opportunity

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Speaker 5: to go win in and I'm gonna be aggressive, So

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say that did get blocked earlier impact

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Speaker 5: your decision of making potentially.

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Speaker 2: Okay, stop there. In the moment, I thought that that

668
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Speaker 2: was maybe in his head, and then I thought about

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Speaker 2: it more last night. How do NFL teams analyze when

670
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Speaker 2: they go for two? They do it as a whole right,

671
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Speaker 2: because it's about a fifty fifty chance of inverting a

672
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Speaker 2: two point conversion. So a lot of the conversation that

673
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Speaker 2: you hear now is saying, like, why did they go

674
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Speaker 2: for two there? Well, because if they don't get it there,

675
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Speaker 2: the numbers say go for you'll get it the next

676
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Speaker 2: time because it's a fifty to fifty proposition. That's why

677
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Speaker 2: they did it. Then you say, that makes sense, that's

678
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Speaker 2: the numbers, that's the odds. Wouldn't the odds tell you

679
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Speaker 2: that Michael Badgeley is probably not going to miss a

680
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Speaker 2: second extra point When you go through all of the

681
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Speaker 2: numbers of kicking extra points, we've seen missus. We saw

682
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Speaker 2: it this past weekend. Cameron Dicker missed an extra point.

683
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Speaker 2: It happens. But you know what, Cameron Dicker also made

684
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Speaker 2: an extra point. So the point of him saying, guess what,

685
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Speaker 2: we're gonna go for two, because that may have played

686
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Speaker 2: a role in thinking. Then put it all on Michael Badgley.

687
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Speaker 2: It was your decision to go for two because you

688
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Speaker 2: wanted to be aggressive and put the ball in Josh

689
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Speaker 2: Allen's hands, Which how could we all argue with, right, Yes,

690
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Speaker 2: but you kick the extra point and then you put

691
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Speaker 2: the ball in Josh Allen's hands to go down on

692
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Speaker 2: score some more points because the Eagles did not complete

693
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Speaker 2: a pass in the second half.

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Speaker 4: They did not complete a pass in the second half.

695
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Speaker 4: But it wasn't a pretty game on either side. Cameron

696
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Speaker 4: Dicker for the Chargers missed a field goal, then missed

697
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Speaker 4: an extra point. Maybe it was in the other way around,

698
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Speaker 4: but they were back to back misses on somebody.

699
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Speaker 3: Who's statistically so great.

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Speaker 4: I understand the feeling of not wanting to put it

701
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Speaker 4: on the kicker when my quarterback is Josh Allen. And

702
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Speaker 4: if I'm on the side and Josh Allen's like, I

703
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Speaker 4: got this, and again the play would have worked. Josh

704
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Speaker 4: Allen just missed the throw. We wouldn't be saying this.

705
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Speaker 4: And the weather, the weather was not ideal. The weather

706
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Speaker 4: was not ideal.

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Speaker 3: I agree with Sean mcdrrett.

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Speaker 4: Not is he giving me a company answer maybe, But

709
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Speaker 4: I agree that he was trying to be aggressive, and

710
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Speaker 4: I agree that he had a conversation with Josh Allen.

711
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Speaker 4: Josh is like, give me the ball.

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Speaker 3: I want to end it right now.

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Speaker 2: Of course he did. They should have just ran a

714
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Speaker 2: quarterback boot and had him run it in probably that

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Speaker 2: maybe it would have been a better play call than

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Speaker 2: the one that he did. That brought a lot of

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Speaker 2: different variables in including throwing a wet football that he

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Speaker 2: won hopped the Khalil Shakir. Jason Stewart's our executive producer.

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Speaker 10: I'd love to know what Mike Rabel would say if

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Speaker 10: you said, what do you think or what did you

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Speaker 10: think when you saw that the Bills were going for two?

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Speaker 10: I think Mike Mike Rabel would be like, oh good, Like.

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Speaker 2: The Nick Sirianni from yesterday.

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Speaker 10: I'm just saying no, no, Mike Rabel. The Patriots who

725
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Speaker 10: had a lot to win or lose given the result

726
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Speaker 10: of this game, Okay, Mike Rabel would have said, I'm

727
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Speaker 10: glad they went for two because the better team goes

728
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Speaker 10: for one, the better team at home goes for one. There,

729
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Speaker 10: That's that's what football has always told us. So I

730
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Speaker 10: think McDermott was also telling us he didn't have faith

731
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Speaker 10: in his team for the next uh for for overtime.

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Speaker 10: So I do agree with you on this. I think

733
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Speaker 10: if again, the Patriots head coach who had a chance

734
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Speaker 10: to win or lose this division given the results of

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Speaker 10: that game, right, if he was asked today, what did

736
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Speaker 10: you think of that decision for McDermott to go for two,

737
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Speaker 10: he would have been like, oh good, because that gave

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Speaker 10: him a chance to lose.

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Speaker 2: And what do you think Nick Sirianni thought when he

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Speaker 2: said them go back out there? Oh good, yeah, awesome, Sweet,

741
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: we can get a stop here and actually end this game, right.

742
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Speaker 4: Because he would he would think there's another opportunity for

743
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 4: him if there was a kick, because they would go

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Speaker 4: to overtime. I hear what you guys are saying, but

745
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 4: in reality, it's like, if it all worked out, we

746
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 4: wouldn't be having this conversation. And at the same time,

747
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Speaker 4: if he kicks and they go to overtime, it's not

748
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Speaker 4: guarantee Buffalo wins anyway, like to to go and feel

749
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Speaker 4: like you you you're gonna get it in overtime where

750
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Speaker 4: everything is wet and slippery, like how do you not

751
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Speaker 4: know that Seguan Barkley isn't gonna break off for a

752
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Speaker 4: touchdown against a Bill's run defense that has not been great.

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Speaker 2: I would I would lean on the eighteen yards rushing

754
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Speaker 2: they had in the second half in that moment, like,

755
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Speaker 2: that's that that that's the number. The Eagles didn't do

756
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Speaker 2: a thing. They didn't they they were they didn't do

757
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Speaker 2: anything in the second so right, so like.

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Speaker 4: Right there, they haven't done anything. Let's just crush them

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Speaker 4: and end this like they're they're dead in.

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Speaker 3: Water right here, like let's just end this. And it

761
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Speaker 3: was a right, It was a right. He was open.

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Speaker 3: He just didn't hit him.

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Speaker 9: Yeah he was.

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Speaker 2: He was open ish But Josh Allen was back pedaling. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was a confident play where you're

766
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Speaker 2: just sitting back and tossing it and this is your

767
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Speaker 2: best two point conversion play. I think that the I

768
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Speaker 2: just hear the message of Sean McDermott and it's it

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Speaker 2: the like, how can you argue we wanted to put

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Speaker 2: the ball in Josh Allen's hands? Well, yeah, i'd hope,

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Speaker 2: So I hope you didn't hand it off to Ty

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Speaker 2: Johnson in that situation, you want it in Josh Allen's hands.

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Speaker 2: That's tough to criticize. It's tough to criticize. He's not

774
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Speaker 2: going to be like we thought about being very passive there.

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Speaker 2: We decided to kick the extra point. But when you

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Speaker 2: say aggressive, like, yay, all right, our coaches, our coach

777
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 2: wants this, we want this. But I think people in

778
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Speaker 2: Buffalo see, because he's already on a hot seat, that

779
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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott actually had the ability as a head coach

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Speaker 2: at that point to do something that many people didn't

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Speaker 2: think that he'd be able to do. And that's actually

782
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Speaker 2: sit there and say I think it's best for this

783
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Speaker 2: football team to try to kick the extra point, and

784
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Speaker 2: if he misses the extra point. Mantzi, You're right of

785
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: hindsight is twenty twenty. But I think Michael Badgeley is

786
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: getting more of the blame today because then in the

787
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Speaker 2: postgame press conference, instead of saying we were trying to

788
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Speaker 2: be aggressive, we want to put the ball in Josh

789
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Speaker 2: Allen's hands, what you would say is they scored zero

790
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: points in the second half, they had eighteen yards rushing

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Speaker 2: in the second half, they didn't complete a pass in

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Speaker 2: the second half. We trusted the way our defense was

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Speaker 2: playing at that time. That's why we were going to

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Speaker 2: play for overtime. We thought we had a chance to

795
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Speaker 2: win it there and we wanted to take losing out

796
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Speaker 2: of the equation. We missed the kick. That happens, so

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Speaker 2: be it. That would have been the press conference if

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Speaker 2: Michael Badgley misses the extra point, and that would have

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Speaker 2: been much more tangible and reasonable than saying we wanted

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Speaker 2: the ball in Josh Allen's hands. We wanted to be aggressive.

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Speaker 2: That's something that I would say.

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Speaker 4: Michael Badgley misses the kick after that game, you don't

803
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Speaker 4: think the first question being asked is, hey, Sean, why

804
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Speaker 4: didn't you just give the ball to Josh Allen and

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Speaker 4: go for two and your kicker just missed it and

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Speaker 4: the weather is bad.

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Speaker 2: Say exactly what I said is we were trying to

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Speaker 2: be safe. We wanted to take losing out of the

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Speaker 2: equation like that.

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Speaker 3: He just missed a kick, So that's that's He just

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Speaker 3: missed a kick.

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Speaker 2: Extra point, He had one blocked, and he was asked

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Speaker 2: about it. My whole point is, is he really going

814
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Speaker 2: to miss two? Then they don't even have a kicker.

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Speaker 2: Then don't even have it.

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Speaker 4: Carry We've seen kickers this year missed back to back

817
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Speaker 4: kicks that we deemed easy for kicks, for kickers that

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Speaker 4: are at the top.

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Speaker 3: Of their game.

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Speaker 2: Jason Mancy is right, Dan, it was the right call

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Speaker 2: win or end the risk of injury. With the playoffs

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Speaker 2: in two weeks. I don't even think the division because

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Speaker 2: New England was probably going to win the division. If

824
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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott said, I don't care if we won the game,

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00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: we probably weren't gonna win the division. And I want

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Speaker 2: to make sure my guys get rest in week eighteen.

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Speaker 2: That's more real than that cover up of an answer.

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Speaker 2: Hindest is twenty twenty. You're one hundred percent correct, But

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Speaker 2: I would have kicked the extra point in that part,

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Speaker 2: and his is reasoning for why.

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Speaker 9: They do it.

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Speaker 2: And I remember it tweet somebody the picture of like

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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott, like the Stills shot after the pick. Why

834
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Speaker 2: do we always see this, Like why is this a

835
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Speaker 2: traditional shot?

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Speaker 10: And it was?

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Speaker 2: But I just in that moment, you had all of

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Speaker 2: the momentum, and you were playing better than the Eagles were,

839
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Speaker 2: You were at home, you had the home field advantage,

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Speaker 2: the crowd was going crazy, and you pulled the rug

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Speaker 2: out from under him by just ending it in it in.

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Speaker 4: It's funny because like, I hear what you're saying, but

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Speaker 4: I just think it's the other way. The momentum was

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Speaker 4: on your side. You could have ended it right there,

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Speaker 4: and Jason maybe not I mean Jason who tweeted at

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Speaker 4: us thank you, but our producer Jason. You may be

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Speaker 4: right that Sean McDermott was like, I don't know if

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Speaker 4: my team can go to overtime and handle this play

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Speaker 4: a whole nother who knows how long. Like, that's probably

850
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Speaker 4: part of it as well. But I'm using the momentum

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Speaker 4: for going for two, not using it against them.

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Speaker 10: I get that, and I think that what Dan has

853
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 10: been saying too. I think you converse. You can conversely

854
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Speaker 10: use the same answer for why did you kick the

855
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Speaker 10: extra point to go overtime? Because I have Josh Allen

856
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Speaker 10: and I wanted to be a I have Josh Allen

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Speaker 10: in overtime. Of course I'm going overtime. I could He

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Speaker 10: could have easily just constructed that answer the same way

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Speaker 10: if the game had played out differently. I just think

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Speaker 10: the message he sent to his team and go in

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Speaker 10: for two. This is like the act of desperate teams

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Speaker 10: that are worse than the other team on the field,

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Speaker 10: and I don't have faith in you for overtime. That's

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Speaker 10: what I took.

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Speaker 3: But what if, like there is no what winning that game?

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Speaker 4: They had already they already knew they couldn't win the

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Speaker 4: division right at that point, like it was already or not.

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Speaker 2: No, no, they there was a way that they could win,

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Speaker 2: but New England would have to lose to the Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha, Okay, okay, So it wasn't even okay, gotcha? Gotcha?

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Speaker 4: I thought they knew.

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Speaker 2: Because the Patriots got to celebrate when they were on

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Speaker 2: the bus coming back from their win against the Jets

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Speaker 2: and then they got T shirts and hats and the

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Speaker 2: whole deal. Listen, it was going to be a long shot,

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Speaker 2: Like I don't think the Patriots are going to lose.

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Speaker 2: We're going to lose to the Dolphins. Maybe could have happened,

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Speaker 2: but I just think it really even with all of

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Speaker 2: that being said, and maybe Jason on X is correct

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Speaker 2: in saying the Buffalo doesn't matter if they're a four

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Speaker 2: or five or a five, six or seven seed. And

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Speaker 2: to get it over with Alan did take a fall,

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Speaker 2: but in that case, if you want to win the

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Speaker 2: football game, that's what I'm doing.