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Speaker 1: So after about a week and a bit. It's actually

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Speaker 2: Put another log on the fire Nobody here is given time.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the fire pit with Matt Chanella.

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Speaker 4: If you're just joining us, you've missed quite a bit.

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Speaker 4: We start this episode in January of twenty twenty three

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Speaker 4: with lab Golf, the boutique putter company on the rise.

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Speaker 4: Pressey's Revealer was revealing Liam Bedford, Lab's tour rep was

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Speaker 4: repping Sam Hahn, the CEO, since buying a portion of

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Speaker 4: the company in twenty eighteen, salvaged the business and was

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Speaker 4: growing the future one fitting at a time. Meanwhile, Lucas Glover,

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Speaker 4: the pack of almost every putting stat As lab Golf

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Speaker 6: When you don't know why or what or it doesn't

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Speaker 4: To see anyone at any level and at any course

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Speaker 6: And that's like, you know where Mac comes in, and

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Speaker 6: you know Max sitting there, he is following so many things,

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Speaker 6: and he came across this guy, Jason Kuhn. And I

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Speaker 4: in episode six of this series. Cut to April of

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, Glover's manager, friend and life coach Mac

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Speaker 6: You know, we're always taught it's a mental thing, right.

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Speaker 9: Where are you now I'm at home.

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Speaker 4: Nice, a blanket congratulations on so many things, not only

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Speaker 7: But very blessed to have so many people around me

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Speaker 11: reverse engineering and then putting articulation to it and then

435
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Speaker 11: just translating it to the other competitive environment. So we're

436
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 11: just pouring fuel on the fire, giving them a higher

437
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 11: level understanding of mental toughness team first mind, how to fail,

438
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 11: never quit, you know, sources of confidence, toughness, courage, identity

439
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 11: and ego, all of that. And then you put that

440
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 11: package together with the YIPS, free training and the ironing

441
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Speaker 11: it out and boom, you know, there you go.

442
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Speaker 4: The package they were putting together included a new tool.

443
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Speaker 7: After three or four weeks, three or four sessions with him,

444
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 7: this new putter idea came. You know, Mack pushed a

445
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 7: little bit in facts and hey, let's just let's just

446
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 7: try it. And I had two weeks off around the

447
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 7: PGA and mentioned it to Jason Tune and he said, hey, man,

448
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 7: let's let's go.

449
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 9: Let's try it.

450
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 7: We got some time and and it just clicked.

451
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 4: Back to mac Bernhard. Was it you who came to

452
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 4: Lucas about lab or did Lucas come to you about

453
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 4: lab and say get me a putter.

454
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Speaker 10: I think it was Lucas that came. I think he

455
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 10: had seen Scotty Adam Scott do it. I think it

456
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Speaker 10: was him. It had to have been because I didn't

457
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Speaker 10: really know much. I mean, I knew about him, but

458
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 10: I didn't you know, let's a.

459
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Speaker 9: Player introduces me to something.

460
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Speaker 10: I'm not getting in to tell them, let's try a

461
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 10: different putter.

462
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Speaker 9: That's not my style.

463
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 10: They'll they come tell me. But I think it was

464
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Speaker 10: Lucas and that probably came from from.

465
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Speaker 9: Brad Faxon or Jason and his guys in there.

466
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Speaker 4: Adam Scott, your relationship with him, watching him, you know,

467
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 4: it did that factor into ultimately how you came about saying, yeah,

468
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 4: let's give me one of those.

469
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, it was more of I know him the

470
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Speaker 7: same height as him, or about the same height as him,

471
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 7: and just send me one, Send me whatever he uses

472
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 7: and I'll figure it out. That's honestly the conversation I

473
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Speaker 7: had with Mac and what he said to the rep.

474
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 7: He goes, he doesn't want to know anything. He just

475
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 7: knows he and Adam are about the same size, and

476
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Speaker 7: Adam looks great over the ball, and he wants to

477
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Speaker 7: try one, and they sent it. And I spent a

478
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Speaker 7: couple of days in the garage working on a dress,

479
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Speaker 7: and you know, trying to figure out how to get

480
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Speaker 7: somewhat square and comfortable and then took it out on

481
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Speaker 7: the green and went from there.

482
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Speaker 5: Did you have a conversation with Adam.

483
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Speaker 9: No, No, I didn't.

484
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Speaker 7: I watched I watched watch his set up on YouTube

485
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Speaker 7: and then a little video of macare and on YouTube,

486
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 7: and so that's all.

487
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 9: That's all I want.

488
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 7: After that, I'm gonna figure it out. And I just

489
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 7: wanted to. I wanted it to be that new. I

490
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 7: wanted it to be that foreign to where just a

491
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 7: couple of little things to get the the fundamentals and

492
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 7: the most you know, important things you know down and

493
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 7: then then figure it out online.

494
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Speaker 5: And that that checked out with you.

495
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Speaker 4: You kind of ran that by Jason, that basically checked

496
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Speaker 4: out on this process that you were on simultaneously. It

497
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 4: was like, I'm figuring this out and this will be

498
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Speaker 4: the tool that I use as I go forward.

499
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Speaker 9: Correct.

500
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we were. We were all in on

501
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 7: beating it with the short one, but I didn't have

502
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Speaker 7: time to go through the whole bit, the whole you know,

503
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 7: fourteen to fifteen session experience with Jason, which I do

504
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Speaker 7: believe would have eventually beating it. This was a way

505
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Speaker 7: to do it faster since I was literally in the

506
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Speaker 7: middle of the season, and yeah, he he said, yeah,

507
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 7: this this can't do anything but help. He goes, He goes,

508
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 7: but you've got to go all in. You got to

509
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 7: be you got to be you got to be committed

510
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Speaker 7: to it. And if we're going to make the change,

511
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 7: we're going to make it and we're not going back.

512
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 7: But it was very very Navy seal mentality of if

513
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 7: we're making this decision, it's your decision, and we're riding

514
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Speaker 7: with it, and then we'll use what we've done so

515
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 7: far and then we'll keep going and this is the

516
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Speaker 7: right thing to do.

517
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Speaker 4: Back to Jason Kuhn, just the actual putter itself, you know,

518
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Speaker 4: did you look at that as as something that could

519
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Speaker 4: help you and him get to where he needed to

520
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 4: go to?

521
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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

522
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 8: Yeah.

523
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Speaker 11: I think it exponentiated the time and results that we needed.

524
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Speaker 11: I think I think he would have gotten the regardless.

525
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Speaker 11: So my goal when I work with a player is

526
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Speaker 11: whether it's big spall or golf or any of the sports.

527
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 11: But baseball and golf have been the only ones that

528
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 11: have hired me so far. I think that my goal

529
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 11: for them. I tell them, I don't want you to

530
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 11: just be able to throw clean again. I want you

531
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Speaker 11: to fall in love with throwing again or striking the ball.

532
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 11: I want you to be able to throw or putt.

533
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Speaker 11: We'll just stay with golf. So I want you to

534
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 11: be able to putt with any putter in any situation,

535
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 11: at any point in time. That's my goal as a

536
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 11: coach to you. Now we're gonna, you know, depending on

537
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 11: the situation and the amount of time we have the

538
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 11: train and you know, if they have an ability to

539
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 11: take themselves off of the competitive play and then reinsert.

540
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 11: Lucas didn't have that option. He's got to play, right,

541
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Speaker 11: So that was a that was tremendously helpful. So I

542
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 11: think that, Yeah, my goal is for them to be

543
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 11: able to use any putter, any one's putter, and any

544
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 11: situation at any time and fall in love with that

545
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 11: action again what they what they love to do and

546
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 11: growing up. That's what we're going to However, tactically, yeah,

547
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 11: those switches can make pretty quick results, I think, and

548
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 11: then golf you have the luxury to be able to

549
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 11: do that. I don't think that's going to be consistent

550
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Speaker 11: across the board. I think some people are going to

551
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Speaker 11: switch putters and they're still going to feel that that

552
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 11: hitch and that's going to be dependent on the various

553
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 11: experiences and situations of that player.

554
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 4: It's now the first few days of June in twenty

555
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 4: twenty three, Glover is in Ohio for Jack Nicholas's tournament.

556
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Speaker 7: So it gave me the chance to take the things

557
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 7: Jason had taught me up to date, and then this

558
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 7: whole new motor skill. And then you know, of course,

559
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 7: the first thing people say with a long putter is

560
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 7: your speed's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough with

561
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Speaker 7: that as well. Take this thing to Memorial with some

562
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 7: of the fastest, slopigest greens we got and just throw

563
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 7: it right in the fire. And I missed the cut,

564
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 7: but it wasn't because of the way I putt it.

565
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 7: I actually putt it beautifully.

566
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Speaker 4: Glover shots seventy four to seventy seven. But as he said,

567
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: there seemed to be progress back to Michael Simms.

568
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Speaker 6: Even at the Memorial the first week you brought it out,

569
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Speaker 6: it looked like he was putting good, and I'm like,

570
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 6: there's something to this. So you know, Jason Kuhne and

571
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 6: then all of a sudden he's playing with one of

572
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 6: these things. I mean, I really don't care how it happened,

573
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 6: but it did, and that's that's the best part about it.

574
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: Glover was done at Jack's Place on June second, but

575
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 4: stayed in Columbus, Ohio for the final stage of US

576
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 4: Open qualifying on June fifth. Sam Hahn of lab Golf

577
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 4: was paying close attention.

578
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Speaker 8: It's where the story gets really cool for me and

579
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 8: where it diverts from you know, some tour pro you

580
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 8: know kind of experiences we've had in the past. I'm

581
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 8: watching Golf Channel coverage on Golf's longest day US Open

582
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 8: qualifying day, and they're they're going around and going all

583
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 8: the different sites and talking about everybody who's doing this

584
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 8: and doing that. I was stoked because a local kid

585
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 8: here actually ended up qualifying, and so I'm excited about that.

586
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 8: We had a couple other couple other guys get in

587
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Speaker 8: through regional qualifying and it was a good day. I'm

588
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 8: feeling good. And then then the coverage goes over to

589
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 8: Lucas and Lucas shoots sixty three in the morning even

590
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 8: part in the afternoon, gets into a playoff and misses

591
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 8: a two foot fucking putt with a lab roomstick zoomed

592
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 8: in on the fucking putter missus that you know, loses

593
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 8: in the playoff and loses the spot and didn't get

594
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 8: in the US Opening. I'm like, well, bye bye, Lucas Glover.

595
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: More from Michael Simms immediately.

596
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Speaker 6: I mean, I saw results the first week, and then

597
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 6: he did the US Open qualifier and in the playoff,

598
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 6: as everybody knows, and it's been documented, I mean, he

599
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 6: missed a short putt. But what I saw was he

600
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 6: shot sixty three and he hasn't done that in a

601
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 6: long time, right, and it appeared that he was putting good.

602
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 4: US Open qualifying. You shoot sixty three, that's a that's.

603
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Speaker 5: A real low number. That doesn't happen very often to anybody.

604
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 5: I don't care.

605
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: You know, Tiger doesn't shoot sixty three in his prime,

606
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 4: didn't shoot sixty.

607
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 5: Three very often.

608
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 4: That's a different that's a different, different gravy, they say

609
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 4: in Ireland. And then you miss a short put to

610
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 4: actually get in the in the US Open. But from

611
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 4: what I've heard and what I understand, it was actually

612
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: the miss that might be yet another tipping point for

613
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 4: you in which yeah, you missed a short one, but

614
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 4: it had nothing to do with the same sort of

615
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 4: miss that you might have had in the past. Was

616
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: that fair to say?

617
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 7: It was not?

618
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Speaker 9: Yippie?

619
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Speaker 7: It was a miss. And that's the that's been the

620
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 7: biggest positive is the misses now are just missus. And

621
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 7: guess what, I'm human, But it's not because I'm scared.

622
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 7: It's not because I'm having one of these attacks. It's

623
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 7: not because it's a a bad stroke, you know. And

624
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 7: we're walking through the people, the members there at Brookside

625
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 7: in Columbus, going back to the car and Tommy and

626
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 7: my father and we get you know, obviously I was

627
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 7: upset and mad and this and that, and Tommy goes, hey, man,

628
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 7: this is our fifth round or fifth day with this

629
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Speaker 7: putter in competition. He goes, it's going to be a

630
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 7: learning curve. It's going to be a process. He said,

631
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Speaker 7: you just shot sixty three and whatever I shot in

632
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 7: the afternoon, nor remember seventy two or three. He goes,

633
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 7: that's still really good golf because you played great memorial

634
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 7: except for one hole and just positive reinforcement. But yeah,

635
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 7: got in the car, drove off and it wasn't that stroke.

636
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 7: It was just a miss.

637
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 8: Lucas called Liam either that night or the next day

638
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 8: and was like, dude, this thing is fucking amazing, and

639
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 8: I am in, I am in like swimwear, and we're

640
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 8: doing this thing, which it just doesn't happen like with

641
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 8: our with our stuff. Even if we get lucky and

642
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 8: they put it in play, you miss a couple short

643
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 8: ones with something so funny looking and so different feeling

644
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 8: and all that, it's impossible for them not to blame

645
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 8: the putter and they and they toss it.

646
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 9: You know they did it.

647
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 8: So usually if I've seen a guy miss a two

648
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 8: foot putt, to miss out on a plane in the

649
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 8: US Open, that's bye bye. You know that's over. And

650
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 8: not only did was it not over? He called up

651
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 8: so stoked about his experience that day, like the two

652
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 8: footer aside to shot sixty three that morning. You know,

653
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 8: that's what he That's what was present in his mind,

654
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 8: wasn't the two footer, was the fact that he shot

655
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 8: sixty three.

656
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 4: Back to Bill Pressey, who was also watching and listening.

657
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 12: Seremini message all the time. But you know, we've been

658
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 12: watching this for so long, we heard neither one of

659
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 12: us actually rarely watch, you know, golf tournaments anymore.

660
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 8: We do.

661
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 12: But when you when you hear about it, at least

662
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 12: the internet, and I know Sam said it in the

663
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 12: same way. We hate to watch because you know, it's golf, right,

664
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 12: and so seeing you know, Lucas missed that Putt was

665
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 12: discouraging and my friends are like, oh, you know whatever.

666
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 12: But then he's you know, he talked about it and

667
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 12: the way he word smith, his his his language was

668
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 12: was was promising. And I caught that and I was like, well,

669
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 12: that's a that's a good way to say he's in

670
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 12: a mental space.

671
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 8: That's good.

672
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 7: Michael Simms, we've had very, very brutal conversations about about

673
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 7: the yips and trying to do anything to help with it.

674
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 6: We talked about the US Open qualifier and he goes, man,

675
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 6: I missed a short one, but it's the first time

676
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 6: in a long time I missed it. But I learned

677
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 6: more from that Putt than anybody could ever give me.

678
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 6: He goes, I just hammered the crap out of it.

679
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 6: And he might have said something else, but he hammered

680
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 6: the crap out of it.

681
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 9: And he goes, I hit it way too hard, on

682
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 9: way too high of a line. That was it.

683
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 6: He's like, it's not the same as what it was. Before,

684
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 6: and you know, and he's like, there is I learn

685
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 6: more from that pot than I could have ever imagined.

686
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 10: Back to Mac the sixty three, Yeah gave me, gave

687
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 10: me hope, right, I mean that was good. He missed

688
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 10: the pot and it wasn't a big deal, didn't even

689
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 10: was it even like yeah, yeah, pissed me off, but

690
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 10: but not the old here we go again thing. And

691
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 10: Tommy Lamb was like, talk to him after, No, we're

692
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 10: not worried a bit about that.

693
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 9: You know it.

694
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 10: Sometimes the biggest failure, what we perceive is failure, might

695
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 10: have been the best thing. I mean, if he gets

696
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 10: in the US Open, then you got to play at

697
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 10: the US Open. I mean, it's grinding, it's long, it's

698
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 10: going to be really difficult. Is it a place to

699
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 10: gain confidence?

700
00:37:59,160 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 9: Probably not.

701
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 10: I mean it probably destroys more confidence and it never helps.

702
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 10: So it might have been a god send that he

703
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 10: didn't get in, Like it gave him some rest. Now

704
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 10: now he can turn it on go for a stretch here.

705
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 10: But yeah, when he missed that and it didn't even

706
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 10: wasn't even a talking point, didn't even matter. And that

707
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 10: gives you that's a difference.

708
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 7: I wasn't I didn't have the ball position correct, and

709
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 7: when I get the ball too far up in the stands,

710
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 7: I miss him left because that's just the way that

711
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 7: the putter works, when the ball is too far up

712
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 7: in your stance. And fix that and made a ton

713
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 7: of putts in Canada.

714
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 9: The next week, he.

715
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 4: Shoots four rounds of par or better at the RBC

716
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 4: Canadian Open and finishes T twenty. Liam Bedford again lab

717
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: Golf's tour rep who built the putter for Glover.

718
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: So after about a week and a bit, it's actually

719
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 1: pretty funny, Mac texted me about maybe a week after

720
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: he had the puttu and all the all the message

721
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: say was Lucas is gonna win with this putter. And

722
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: that was like that was probably the week of Rocket

723
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: mortgage and and he just said that like the whole,

724
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: like the confidence Lucas had with the putter was something

725
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: that he hadn't been familiar with, the confidence level in

726
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: a long time. Was hitting it great like he always does.

727
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: He just needed to make a couple more putts here

728
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: and there, and it looked like the broomstick took care

729
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: of the short ones for him. So and he's still

730
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: making the still making the mid rated ones. That's at

731
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: a good clip, but he's just making the short ones

732
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: at a way better clip than he was.

733
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 4: Two weeks after, Max text to Liam and at the

734
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 4: Rocket Mortgage in Detroit, Glover birdie's four of the last

735
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 4: six holes for his sixty five and a T four finish,

736
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 4: which at the time was his best finish of the

737
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 4: year by far.

738
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 7: You know, I still miss some one of the best

739
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 7: bunker shots of my life on the fourteenth hole there,

740
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 7: part five two. A couple of feet missed it, but

741
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 7: I missed it. I missed it every does it. I

742
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 7: didn't walk over to fifteen, you know, still shaking and

743
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 7: nervous and upset. It was too you missed a short butt,

744
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 7: big deal. And that's and then I just kept making

745
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 7: birdies and kept hitting decent shots and making some fifteen

746
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 7: footers aggressively. And then you know, I take a birdie

747
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 7: the last three or four holes there on Sunday, and

748
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 7: those other three guys went crazy, and I think I

749
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 7: missed the playoff by three, but that was my best

750
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 7: finish in a long time. And then I pulled out

751
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 7: of that parking lot going. I just putted great for

752
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 7: four days. I hadn't said that in a long time.

753
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 7: And I'm saying that even missing some that I should

754
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 7: have made, I mean short putts, but they weren't that feeling.

755
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 7: It wasn't that. Yep, it was just I missed a putt.

756
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 5: Who cares?

757
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 7: And that's the mentality you know, every eight year old has,

758
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 7: and all that was like a kid and all that

759
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 7: stuff a big deal. You missed a putt. Come on,

760
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 7: let's go get the next hole. I hadn't had that

761
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 7: in ten years maybe more.

762
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: Are you calling your friends? Are you calling Simsey and Matt?

763
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 5: Going? This is fun?

764
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 7: Yeah? Well, yeah, I left Detroit. Couldn't wait to get

765
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 7: to the Deer you know, that was a one there

766
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 7: a couple of years ago and always have good vibes

767
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 7: going there. And I could not wait to get there,

768
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 7: to the point where, like Wednesday, I wished it was Thursday.

769
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 7: You know, I could not wait to go play and

770
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 7: could not wait to go putt.

771
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 9: And.

772
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 7: Practicing putting was fun. There is fun again. But yeah,

773
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 7: it was just here we go, let's uh you know this,

774
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 7: everything's kind of clicking, and I just can't wait to play.

775
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 7: I can't wait to putt, can't wait to practice and

776
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 7: there wasn't a nervness walking up to every green I

777
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 7: didn't regulation, or every green I missed having to chip

778
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 7: up onto the green. There wasn't this like, you know,

779
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 7: fear of screwing up or fear of missing a putt

780
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 7: or whatever. And it was just, man, I can't wait

781
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 7: to make this one, which I had, Like I said,

782
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 7: I hadn't had that feel and had that.

783
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 9: Childlike fun in years at.

784
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 4: John Dear, it's more of the same. After rounds of

785
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 4: sixty nine, sixty five, sixty six, sixty eight, he finishes

786
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 4: T six for two straight top tens. At this point,

787
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 4: do you allow yourself to think, like, I'm here to

788
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 4: win this week?

789
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 5: Like, is that what's what's creeping in?

790
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 9: Yeah?

791
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we say that every week. It's just

792
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 7: a matter of whether you actually believe it or not.

793
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 7: And after Rocket, I started believing that that if I

794
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 7: keep doing this, it's it's going to happen. And then

795
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 7: you get then there's the mentality of do I need

796
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 7: to do anything better or do I just need to

797
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 7: keep doing this? And then it was all right, let's

798
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 7: just not over complicate it. Let's just tidy up here,

799
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 7: work on our short game. You know, just do what

800
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 7: we've been doing to get where we got last week

801
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 7: or the week before, and just keep going and not

802
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 7: over complicated, not try to put something new in, not

803
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 7: try to you know, change up anything. It's just rot

804
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 7: it and just keep doing the same stuff, stay consistent,

805
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 7: and it'll happen.

806
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 4: In mid July at the Barbasol Championship, Glover shoots sixty three,

807
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 4: sixty eight, sixty nine, sixty eight for twelve straight rounds

808
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 4: in the sixties and the fifth place finish is three

809
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 4: straight top tens. So you're watching him, you're listening to him,

810
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 4: you've known him, you're you know. But for whatever reason,

811
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 4: and there must have been several reasons, this was different.

812
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 4: This you know, April, May, June, and we got and

813
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 4: then you're coming at the start of ju Lie becomes

814
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 4: a starting line of which everything fucking changes everything.

815
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, it was a combination. I mean, I've been

816
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 10: around him forever, so I know his mind. I mean

817
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 10: I know when he's he's got something, when he goes

818
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 10: I got it.

819
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 9: You hear it in his voice.

820
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 10: I got it, like, no questioning, no, Like you can

821
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 10: hear it in his voice and you can see it

822
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 10: just there was a sense. I mean, I'm talking to

823
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 10: Tommy Lamb, I'm talking to the caddy, I'm talking to Kobe,

824
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 10: to a who's training, because we're talking all the time,

825
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 10: and all of us started noticing this, this guy that

826
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 10: he wasn't one hundred and eightieth and Fede's cup points

827
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 10: while talking to you.

828
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 7: He was fifth.

829
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 10: I mean, this guy had a different just on the phone,

830
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,959
Speaker 10: you can hear it, and watching him play.

831
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 9: And I think you know.

832
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 10: That fourth place finish was that a rocket? I forget

833
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 10: where it is in Detroit and.

834
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 9: And I mean it wasn't fluky. It was real.

835
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 10: I mean, because you know you have those rounds where

836
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 10: you'll find for a day, but it was real. And

837
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 10: we I mean, yeah it was. I mean you know,

838
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 10: look you say that looking back at so you can

839
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 10: be so confident, but no.

840
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 9: We really did. Were behind the scenes.

841
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 10: We were sitting here going, oh my gosh, we got this.

842
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 9: This has coming back.

843
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 10: You can't let Lucas glove or putt well. I mean

844
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 10: I don't think Lucas has ever putted well in his career.

845
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 10: He's putt it okay. And somebody says, well, how do

846
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 10: you know that? I said, because he had won twenty times.

847
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 10: This kid putted, well, he'd have twenty wins. I mean,

848
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 10: because everybody knows this. Watch you hit a gothball and

849
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 10: watch him play. He's not scared to win. I mean

850
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 10: he is not. He'll get right up there.

851
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 9: WI can win.

852
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 10: And if he could, if he was a great putter,

853
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 10: with how he strikes it, it'd be hard to tell you.

854
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 10: So no, I knew that if he could put a

855
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 10: little bit as good as he hits it and as

856
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 10: good as he can compete, we were onto something. But

857
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 10: like I said, when you're talking to somebody that's one

858
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 10: hundred and eightieth and FedEx cup points and that sounds

859
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 10: crazy versus the guy stiff and Fedet's cup points, there's

860
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 10: a difference in their attitude.

861
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 9: I mean, you can just sense it. And he wasn't.

862
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 10: It wasn't like he was worried where he was and

863
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 10: you could you could just buil it when you talk

864
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 10: to him that he had flipped he'd flipped the switch.

865
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 6: Mac and I were actually in Scotland for the Scottish

866
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 6: and uh, Lucas had the lead. I mean he just

867
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 6: had I don't know how many top tens, two or three,

868
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 6: but prior to three or four.

869
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 9: Leading into that event in Kentucky.

870
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 6: I think it's a barber sool and Mac just said, man,

871
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 6: this is this is incredible, and you know, this is amazing.

872
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 6: But he looked over at me and he goes, he's

873
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 6: going to win Greensboro. That's the one he's that's the

874
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 6: one he's going to win. And I was like, you think,

875
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 6: so he goes, yeah, it's it's there's just there's so

876
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 6: much energy there for him that you know, from the

877
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 6: sixty one that he shot there, sixty that he shot there.

878
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 9: A few years back. It's to where he grew up.

879
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 6: There's family, there's there's just energy there that that has

880
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 6: his back.

881
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 10: And I'm like, I like this. I can't remember the day.

882
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 10: I can't remember which term he finished, four, six, fifth,

883
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 10: I remember this right, and and I remember us sitting

884
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 10: around and everybody's lamenting, and I said, you know what,

885
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 10: I don't give a crap about that.

886
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 9: I went in to win Greensboro.

887
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 10: And because Greensboro is run by you know, Mark Browsewill

888
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 10: and Bobby Long, who are dear friends of mine. I'm

889
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 10: from that area, and I know Lucas would have fifty

890
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 10: family members there. Because no matter what. His family. You've

891
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 10: never seen a family like that. I mean, they are.

892
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 10: They are all for one and one for all, and

893
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 10: it's a big part of Lucas.

894
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 9: I mean, this is a I mean, you.

895
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 10: Know his dad. You know, his dad traveled.

896
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 9: With him for several weeks there.

897
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 10: People people don't realize that his dad was with him

898
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 10: to travel with his son. I mean that's huge, not

899
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 10: in the old I'm a father, but just I'm gonna

900
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 10: be with you man, and his mom and his cousins.

901
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 10: And if you meet these, you meet these uncles and

902
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 10: the Henley family. I mean, I love I think I'm

903
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 10: an I mean I'm a Henley somewhere in there because

904
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 10: I'm that close to these guys. But I knew in

905
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 10: Greensboro they'd all be there and they need to see

906
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 10: Lucas man. And I remember telling I don't know who

907
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 10: I was telling. I just told somebody said, look, he's

908
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 10: gonna win Greensboro. I don't give a crap what he

909
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 10: does there. You know what he's going in Greensboro. And

910
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 10: I you know, I know, I said it loud enough

911
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 10: to one bartender that met a out on it that

912
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 10: did pretty well.

913
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 4: You know, Max said a couple of weeks before he's

914
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 4: gonna win. He's gonna win in Greensborough, Like you know,

915
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 4: he was telling he felt he saw your team.

916
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 5: Was that was it building?

917
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 9: Yeah?

918
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so looking back on but now yeah,

919
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 7: And always played there, played well there, kind of grew

920
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 7: up around there on on that course a little bit

921
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 7: and seemed to this one of those things nobody really

922
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 7: ever talks about with professional golf, is you know, reading

923
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 7: the greens are very important. Obviously you and I know

924
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 7: that a lot of people don't. But uh, and when

925
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 7: you get to a course where you feel like you

926
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 7: read the greens really well, you get really even more comfortable.

927
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 7: And I feel that way at Greensboro, and I obviously

928
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 7: Memphis with the Bermuda that I'm familiar with, and just

929
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 7: always seemed to read the greens well there, and then

930
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 7: Greensboro not that long of a course, so you get

931
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 7: a lot of wedges in and I've been wedging it

932
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 7: very well for several months. My statistics with my wedges

933
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 7: had had been improving of something I'd focused on and

934
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 7: really been working on, and I was starting to see

935
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 7: the fruits of those labors. And then I knew Greensboro

936
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 7: if you get in the fairway, you're gonna have a

937
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 7: lot of wedges, You're gonna have a lot of short irons,

938
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 7: and so but it's one of those courses where the

939
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 7: ruffles up, Bermuda ruffles up, and if you don't and

940
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 7: it can be difficult. So I played a little safer

941
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 7: off the tee than I have in years past, just

942
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 7: because I wanted to get on the green as quick

943
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 7: as possible, because I was putting well, and you know,

944
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 7: strategy worked. I wedged it nice, made a bunch of

945
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 7: putts and had a ton of fairways. But but yeah,

946
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 7: getting there, knowing success I've had there, knowing how well

947
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 7: I read the greens there, with this new found confidence

948
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 7: in the putter, I was. I wasn't getting too far

949
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 7: ahead of myself, but you know I was. I was

950
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 7: expectations were to have a good week, but you know,

951
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 7: twenty years out there, you can have that expectation and

952
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 7: then shoot seventy five, seventy five and expectations right down

953
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 7: the road. So I didn't allow myself to get too

954
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 7: far ahead. But yeah, I was excited. I was excited

955
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 7: to I was excited to go play again, especially there

956
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 7: place I liked.

957
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 4: At the twenty twenty three Windhom Championship at Sedgefield Country

958
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 4: Club in Greensboro, North Carolina, with family everywhere, including his

959
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 4: son and daughter, Lucas Glover, putting with Lab Golf's MEZ

960
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 4: one Max shot sixty six sixty four, sixty two, sixty eight.

961
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 4: Here's Jim Nance with the call on the seventy second green,

962
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 4: followed by the post round interview by Amanda ballionis Renner go.

963
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 9: Ahead and make it turn, turn, turn. That's what he does.

964
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 10: The man from Greenville is a winner in Greensborough.

965
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 13: I'm because I know you said. The perspective for you

966
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 13: begins and ends with family. Why is this one so

967
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 13: emotional for all of you?

968
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 7: Say hey to mom, Momi, Mommy. I don't get to

969
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 7: see these guys as much as I've wanted to because

970
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 7: I hadn't been playing that great. So maybe I can.

971
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 7: Maybe I can see more practices and more games and

972
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 7: be home a little more. So too old to be

973
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 7: on the road just much. I've been busting my home

974
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 7: so I can be with them and be with my wife.

975
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 7: I'm so happy.

976
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 13: Well, you are going to be on the road for

977
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 13: a little bit longer. Now you entered this week one

978
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 13: hundred and twelfth in the FedEx Cup standings. You are

979
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 13: now forty ninth. I'm sure the kids are you excited

980
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 13: to see dad go to the playoffs next week?

981
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 10: Yeah?

982
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 13: Just talk about where your game is at, the confidence

983
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 13: that you have found with that putter, and now the

984
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 13: rest of the game too.

985
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 7: Well, like I said the last few days, it starts

986
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 7: and ends there with me. And you know, it's been

987
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 7: a long road ten years of fighting something and to

988
00:52:55,000 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 7: find something that completely changed the momentum and everything was

989
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 7: was obviously a blessing. And you know, kudos to my team,

990
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 7: Jason Lance, Facts, Tom, Jason Kuhn for pushing me in

991
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 7: that direction. Couldn't have done it without all you guys.

992
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 7: I'm just just thrilled to be thrilled to be on uh,

993
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 7: thrilled to be on y'all's team. Thank you.

994
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: So I asked Lover to expand on the physical, emotional,

995
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 4: and spiritual mountain he had just climbed in order to

996
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 4: get back into golf's always elusive winner circle his fifth trip.

997
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, and what's so interesting about that is it wasn't

998
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 7: two years ago that I would won the Deer. It

999
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 7: was right out two years ago. And but those two years,

1000
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 7: the struggle, the where I was on the FedEx Cup,

1001
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 7: where I was mentally, you know, back in March and April,

1002
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 7: and I mean those two years ire like ten.

1003
00:53:54,480 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 9: And to do it the way I did it, with.

1004
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 7: All the struggles, all the hurdles, all the things that

1005
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 7: I've been going through and fighting on the golf course

1006
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 7: and on the pudding green, to do it in that

1007
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 7: fashion by making putts and making putts when.

1008
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 9: They mattered was really cool.

1009
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 7: And then having all the family aspect and all that

1010
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 7: who have lived and died with me on the greens

1011
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 7: as well was very cool. And then obviously my kids

1012
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 7: being there in person for the first time was was

1013
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 7: even even better.

1014
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 4: When he wins, what what like?

1015
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 5: What does that all? What? What does that all feel like?

1016
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 9: Well?

1017
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 10: I was there, I'm always Windham, I'm always there all week.

1018
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 10: Had a lot of guys win it luckily, but I

1019
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 10: mean we had a rain delay, so we finished in

1020
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 10: the dark. Then we had the hour or so of

1021
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 10: press and you did all the great things you get

1022
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 10: to do when you win, right, and so we finally

1023
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 10: I think we get to the locker room at about

1024
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 10: nine thirty and it wasn't much as set. It just

1025
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 10: looked over. We were just talking about and I guess

1026
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 10: our comments were, well, that changes things now, all right,

1027
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 10: so you know now we were in the playoffs, which

1028
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 10: didn't think about we're at Augusta, don't Hawaii. And we

1029
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 10: kind of went through a few of those little things,

1030
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 10: but it was pretty much matter of fact business. He

1031
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 10: had to pack up, he got his stuff packed up,

1032
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 10: his family's waiting for him, get in the car, he's

1033
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 10: got to go to Hell to the room, and we

1034
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 10: got to get going again. So it was not much

1035
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 10: of a conversation piece, just I'll talk to you, call

1036
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 10: me and anything, and we'll move forward.

1037
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 4: What happens between you and Lucas after he wins the

1038
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 4: first one.

1039
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 9: We had a we had a phone call.

1040
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 6: I knew that he had a lot of stuff going on.

1041
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 6: I happened to be in Denver with a really good

1042
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 6: friend of mine. We were all watching, we were yelling

1043
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 6: at the TV. We were so stoked, and then I

1044
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 6: sent him. Our favorite beer is Pliny the Elder by

1045
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 6: Russian River, and I just sent him a picture of

1046
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 6: a couple bottles of that. I was like, I'm gonna

1047
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 6: be enjoying these tonight and.

1048
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 9: We talked later on.

1049
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 6: You know, he gave me a lot of shit for that,

1050
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 6: which was kind of funny, but yeah, I mean it

1051
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 6: was it was pretty simple. You know, I knew he

1052
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 6: was tired. What do you say, I mean other than

1053
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 6: I'm very proud of you. You know, you've you've done,

1054
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 6: You've done the work. It's nice to see the fruits

1055
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 6: of what that is. And just so stoked for him.

1056
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: From Mac to Michael and now Jason Kuhn, where were

1057
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 4: you when you found out or saw or were you

1058
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 4: watching Lucas win his first tournament?

1059
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just went outside.

1060
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 9: And walked down.

1061
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 11: We've got a little six acre lot in Tennessee, you know,

1062
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 11: so it's uh, I just went outside and it was

1063
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 11: a really nice day out and I just walked outside

1064
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 11: and I just looked up at the sky with tears

1065
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 11: in my eyes and just said thank you.

1066
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 5: And back to back again.

1067
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 10: Greensboro was almost kind of a relief. You know, we

1068
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 10: pulled it off. We had some help coming in, you know,

1069
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 10: but it wasn't lot of time for celebration. Wasn't lot

1070
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 10: you know, it wasn't like we're going out to dinner,

1071
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 10: you know, we you know, his kids were there, everybody knows,

1072
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 10: and he had stuff, he had stuff to do to

1073
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 10: get them home and and get on to Memphis. And

1074
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 10: I remember asking if you if He I said, you

1075
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 10: want me to get you a private jet up to

1076
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 10: you know, Memphis, you know, you know, might help you rest.

1077
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 10: And he goes and he kind of asked me, was

1078
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 10: Delta broke?

1079
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 7: You know?

1080
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 10: You know, but you know, but just to if you

1081
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 10: want to talk about Windom and Bobby Long and Mark

1082
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 10: browsewll They put him on a private.

1083
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 9: Plane the next morning. Got got of Memphis, and you know,

1084
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Speaker 9: and here's Tommy Lamb.

1085
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 10: I'm on the Putty Green. He wins in Greensboro, and

1086
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 10: I'm trying to find Tommy. I want to hug him.

1087
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 10: You know, he's hung out and hung with Lucas. That's

1088
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 10: big part of this. And I finally called him, where

1089
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 10: are you? And he goes, I'm halfway to my I'm

1090
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 10: halfway to Charlotte Airport. I'm going I got to fly out.

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00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 9: You know.

1092
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 10: It's not even you know, and this is Tommy Lamb,

1093
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 10: not even on the getn't even one accolade on the

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00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 10: Putting Green. He's got work to do too, so, and

1095
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 10: that's what just astounds me is pretty much everybody in

1096
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 10: Lucas's corner is doing their job. They're not doing it

1097
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 10: to get on TV. They're doing this job. They're doing

1098
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 10: their job.

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00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 5: We saw a.

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00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 4: Little bit of the emotion, but given what I know

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00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 4: about you, it must have been times one hundred internal.

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00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, one hundred percent, one hundred percent and h Yeah.

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00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 7: It was just the biggest exhale. And when I got

1104
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 7: in the car after all the media's pitch black guard

1105
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 7: because you know, we had that kind of Raindoway there

1106
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 7: and pitch black on the a ton of clock and

1107
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 7: finally get in the car and had my family and

1108
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 7: the kids and everybody in there, and they just grab

1109
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 7: the steering wheel and I don't think I've ever exhaled

1110
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 7: bigger than that, And it was just relief, so exhausted

1111
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 7: after doing all that, but it was just the feeling

1112
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 7: of relief, and then you know, it didn't really didn't

1113
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 7: really hit me till the next day that you know,

1114
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 7: how gratifying and grateful and all of the emotions hit.

1115
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 7: The next day, you know, you wake up to four

1116
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 7: or five hundred text messages and just people pulling for you.

1117
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 7: That love you, and you know they might have met

1118
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 7: him once, exchanged numbers and they text you and and

1119
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 7: then you you know, you get a couple of days

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00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 7: to deal with that and think of that, and and

1121
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 7: then in that situation, you have turned the page because

1122
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 7: you don't want to, but you have to.

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01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, and to go back to that Sunday afternoon at

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01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 4: Emerald Valley and Eugene, Oregon, where several members of Lab

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01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 4: Golf are trying to win a tournament of their own.

1126
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 4: We start with Liam Bedford.

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01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: It was the last round of the club Championship, so

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01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: I was in the final group. Sam was in the

1129
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: group in front of me, and then Matt Our CEO.

1130
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: I was in a couple of groups in front of them,

1131
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: and we were on I was on whole thirteen. Sam

1132
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: was on whole fourteen and Unnerald Valley they run parallel

1133
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: and so and the shortcut to play hole thirteen and

1134
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: it's hit the ball like there's a bunch of trees

1135
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: down the middle of the fairway. You can hit a

1136
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: high cut over the trees onto fourteen fairway and it

1137
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: gives you a great look into the thirteen and it's.

1138
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: A part five.

1139
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: So I hit a high cut over the over the trees,

1140
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: and the ride hit it down the middle of fourteenth

1141
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: fairway and Sam's coming down in fourteenth fairway and he

1142
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: goes to He's like, have you checked the scores? And

1143
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: I was just I hadn't checked the scores in probably

1144
01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: two holes. So Lucas, I think it was through six

1145
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: stein when I had lost check at the school schools

1146
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: and I think at the time he had a one

1147
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: shot leader or he was tied or remember it was

1148
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: really close.

1149
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 8: Sam han and and and I'm on the golf course

1150
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 8: on my second round in my club championship. I've got

1151
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 8: Matt in front of me, in the group in front

1152
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 8: of me, and I've got Liam a group behind me,

1153
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 8: the tour the rep or tour rep that did this

1154
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 8: whole thing. I have no idea what I shot. I

1155
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 8: think or I think, yeah, I ended up seventy five

1156
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 8: that day, but like I almost didn't go to play

1157
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 8: the second round, so I didn't have much of a

1158
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 8: chance to win anyway. And I was just like, it's horrifying,

1159
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 8: you know, it's fucking horrifying because like, not you have

1160
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 8: you have the chance for both things to happen, and

1161
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 8: there's there's very little in between. Either Lucas is gonna

1162
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 8: win the fucking tournament or he's gonna miss some putts

1163
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 8: and lose it, because we know he ain't gonna lose

1164
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 8: it with his ball striking, you know. So it's just

1165
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 8: this just horrible, nail biting thing. We get on the

1166
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 8: first team right about the time that day teed off,

1167
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 8: and I'm checking my phone every fourteenth fucking seconds and refreshed, refreshed.

1168
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 8: I bog you the first two holes of my tournament,

1169
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 8: and I'm like, oh my god, now I don't have

1170
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 8: anything to distract me from, you know, my obsession with

1171
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 8: Lucas Glover right now. And then it goes on another

1172
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 8: two or three holes, and then the fucking raindelay hit

1173
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 8: and this is this is at the window. There's like

1174
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 8: an hour long rainde lay, and I'm like dying, just

1175
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 8: absolutely dying, try to focus on my own game. They

1176
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 8: start up again, and long story short, I was on

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01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 8: the fifteenth tea, Matt was on the fifteenth green. Liam's

1178
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 8: on the fourteenth tee. We're all like waving across from

1179
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 8: fairways and showing the thins and the thumbs up, you know,

1180
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 8: just nervous and whatever. I got this super zippy golf cart.

1181
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 8: And then when he won, like I just I hit

1182
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 8: my tee shot. I waited for my guys to tee off,

1183
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 8: and I drove all the way up to the sixteenth

1184
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 8: tee to meet Matt. Jump into his arm. That's a

1185
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 8: big guy. I'm a little guy, and jumped into his arms,

1186
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 8: you know, picked me up. And then right after I

1187
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 8: you know, jumped into MAT's arms. I got on the

1188
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 8: phone with Bill and there's nothing to say. They're like,

1189
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 8: oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh

1190
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 8: my god.

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01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 4: Here's the inventor, Bill Pressey. After lab Golf secures its

1192
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 4: first win on the PGA Tour and the call he

1193
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 4: receives from Sam.

1194
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 12: You know, our first phone calls were to each other,

1195
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 12: congratulating each other, and yeah I was He was like, okay,

1196
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 12: all right, click, Yeah it was big.

1197
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 9: It was big.

1198
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 11: You know.

1199
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 12: That's that's a monkey on the back.

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01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 4: He's gone back to Liam Bedford.

1201
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: And then so we played play, finished thirteen, finished fourteen,

1202
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: and I'm teen off fifteen. Sam's playing sixteen and that

1203
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: one kind of runs parallel. San Hits's ball down and

1204
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: he sees me on the t box and just drives

1205
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: over to me. We don't even say a word. We

1206
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: just walk towards each other and just start just giving

1207
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: each other a massive hug. And it was a it

1208
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: was a really cool day. My wife didn't come watch

1209
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: that day, and on the way to the golf course

1210
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: after the round, she she stopped off and bought a

1211
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: couple of bottles of champagne and and as as a company,

1212
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: because a lot of us played in that event, we

1213
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: went up and popped a couple of bottles of champagne

1214
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: and celebrated just together with the little group of us.

1215
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: But it was really really awesome.

1216
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 4: Up next, we're wrapping this series up as Glover keeps

1217
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 4: rolling at the FedEx Saint Jude Championship.

1218
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 3: He went back to back on the PGA Tour against

1219
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 3: two of the best fields in the game, coming in

1220
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 3: with the FedEx Cup and all the pressure.

1221
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 10: In that that that that you can't believe.

1222
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: Put another log on the fire. Nobody here is get

1223
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 2: the time