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The next season 35 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: Studio with Me and I'm Excited. Was raised in Gumbo 36 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: Cut New all This Louisiana. Then a Houston boy. He's 37 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: in Texas. I know about that. By the rouge, you know, 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: Alexandria my man. My parents were street Point Bojan so 39 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: I got a whole lot of spectrum there. You gonna, 40 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm a little north. South is different from the North. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: But we gumbo. Everybody gumbo. Everybody can come together on 42 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: that one. But that really gotta be right. There's got 43 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: to be right there. He currently spends his time between Atlanta, Chicago, 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and New York, all four cities I've lived 45 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: in fully where he always is working hard on their 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: multitude of projects, like starting like a starring role in 47 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: the musical drama Star on Fox HB so HBO's Insecure, 48 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: MC Girlsa Ray Usa is Unsolved, the Murders of Tupac 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: and the Tories, B I G and this role as 50 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: my Man, Good Friend R and B singer Johnny gil 51 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: on BTS that Bobby Brown Story, which drove in numbers 52 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: record numbers twenty nine million viewers doing premier week. Please 53 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: work with the money Man Conversation my Man two times 54 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: Grammar nominated. Luke James, How you do? How you doing? 55 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: Set me a real nice Well, I got to set 56 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: you when you've done something I've learned over the years. 57 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: I tell people when I introduced him, what we make 58 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: a mistake on home That resume. Gotta gotta be told 59 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: because we're you're you're kind of like you don't want 60 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: to like always brag about it, but it does tell 61 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: you you can walk in the door for a region 62 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: and be respected. Absolutely. Now, when did you feel in 63 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: this business you started getting respected? Luke Wow, Um, you 64 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: know I've had I've had moments, and I'd say I 65 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: have moments, but I think it it hasn't It hasn't 66 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: really been until really around now, to be fair, because 67 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: I think now I've actually put in a solid well 68 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: now it's being New Year's full ten years, thank you too, 69 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: to my to my craft, being an established artist and 70 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: also jumping into a new endeavor, you know, a film 71 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: and TV. Well, you know, it's really interesting because you 72 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: are a diverse talent singer. Okay, And sometimes I remember 73 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: when I was managing Steve Harvey because it was a comedian. 74 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: Some people were envious that he was able to get 75 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: sitcoms because he was a comedian. They feel he didn't 76 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: put the work into the craft, you know, and so 77 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: he just gave. He just got it because he's Steve. 78 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: He's a funny guy. And that's not fair. You know, 79 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: we all put different levels of work. Because if I 80 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: mentioned the cities in Atlanta, Chicago, what y'all love that food? 81 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: That's cold run, New York City and then l A. 82 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: It just because you gotta go there. You gotta go there. 83 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: So that means you putting work into your life. There's 84 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: there's there's means that there's times you would be rather 85 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: be someplace else, but you gotta be there. You gotta 86 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: be about that. I mean, you know they're there are 87 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: different paths you must take, and sometimes you don't always 88 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: know it right off the back. You know, I left 89 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: New Orleans, um right out of high school, went to 90 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: l A sleeping on a couch, sleeping on the floor, 91 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, me and my me and my bros that 92 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: I graduated from school with, and and we just you know, 93 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: we have the mentality that Okay, this is what it's 94 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna take. We need to we need to leave New Orleans. 95 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: We need to go somewhere else and and start hitting 96 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: the pavement there and sing there and get our name 97 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: out there. And and that's just really what it really is. 98 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: You know, um Uh. As an actor, you're you're you're 99 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: stationed different places, you know, and that's a beautiful thing 100 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: because you you if you have the time you get 101 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: an opportunity to if you can um sink your teeth 102 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: into the city that you're in and and and there 103 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: you can feel the pulse of what that city has. 104 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: And and like living in New York that hustle and bustle, 105 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: I mean that that feeling, that that feeling, you must 106 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: all all of it and the attitude. Now something may 107 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: take it negative, but I I took it as a positive. 108 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: People don't have time, you know people really you have 109 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: to respect people's time and that and and and they 110 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: cherish their time, and so that's why they get going. 111 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: That's why it feels like, you know, as soon as 112 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: you wake up at nine, you know, nine am, you blink, 113 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: it's nine pm, and you know, it feels like you know, 114 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: so it's so it's it's it's interesting. You know, you 115 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: go to New York Midtown at two o'clock in the morning, 116 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: it feels like a five o'clock in the regular city. Yes, 117 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: And that's the crazy part about New York City. And 118 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: I always tell people that, you know, the reason I 119 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: bring up those different locations, each one of those cities 120 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: are different. And you walk away with as of what 121 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: that is that atmosphere. I think it makes you a 122 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: much more rounded person. It does. I think so too. 123 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: I think traveling is absolutely it's imperative to any person. 124 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: I think, I think we you you have to at 125 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: some point in your life. You have to have I 126 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: hope you you're able to. You're blessed to have a 127 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: nomad uh period in your life where you where you 128 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: just live a bunch of differ from places. I mean, 129 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: because I think it's just really important to to to 130 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: know about the world, right, you know, right, you know, 131 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: it's really funny just watching you talk, listen to you talk. 132 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm talking to a poet, a poet, 133 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: and it's really cool. And I'm talking to Luke James, 134 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: two time Grammar nominated and sing aartists, you know. And 135 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: I would tell you what, I'll really tell you what. 136 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: I love talking to you because she when I left 137 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: IBM to do stand up comedy, one thing I always 138 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: want to do is have multi levels of income. And 139 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: that what he's see. I like, that's what you're doing. 140 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: She's really rough in this business man, because they could 141 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: be more setbacks and games, and the setbacks are what 142 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: turned people around. They turn them around absolutely we look 143 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: at this business, it's a lot of people who have gifts. 144 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: There is a lot of people have that passion. But 145 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: those setbacks, man, can stop you because because you really 146 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: don't have anybody to turn to. I always tell people, 147 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, you can talk to somebody who's the secretary. 148 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: He talked about throwing male because they have people that 149 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: it's relatable to the normal person. But you're talking, you're 150 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: telling somebody I'm going to l a. All they think 151 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: about is all the other stars then jail. Yeah, people 152 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: they can't think of Luke j How you gonna make it? Do? Who? 153 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: You know? Right? Who? Yeah? You have to really believe 154 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: in yourself. You have to. It's it's I mean, you 155 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: have to be out of your mind in a sense 156 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: of it, in a sense of in a sense of 157 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: your belief and your passion, and it truly has to 158 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: be yours. It can't be no one else's. Because I 159 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: think that's where you know, people people say, well, how 160 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: do you say? Because everybody kind of, like you know, 161 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: thinks they're supposed to, but not everybody's really living their truth. 162 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: I think not everybody's walking in their particular steps. They're 163 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: seeing someone else's influence there you as someone else's influences 164 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: is making them do something maybe that isn't completely right 165 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: for them, and there's a hole at the end of 166 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: that tunnel. There is some sort of place where they'll 167 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: realize that this isn't for them and they that's sometimes 168 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: the downfalls and that, but that's why you have to 169 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: really really find that and know for sure that this 170 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 1: is what you want to do and then go for 171 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: blow right right now. You know the really cool part 172 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: about listening to you because at that age I experienced 173 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: it at my age, you know, because I left on 174 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: the road you did an eighteen and twenty six. I 175 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: decided to make a decision that I'm tired of IBM. 176 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: I looked around, you know, I got enough you know, 177 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: showtime and made me the funniest comic contextures three years 178 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: in a row. I figured that was enough going out 179 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: there and tested I hadn't enough credits, you know, the 180 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: walking papers to get out there and see if I 181 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: could do this. But even when you get out there, 182 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: you're still alone. Did you did you go to l 183 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: A by yourself? Well? I went to l A with 184 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: with two of my two of my bros that I 185 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: went to high school with Okay, we were we were 186 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: in a group, a trio UM. And then and then, 187 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, somewhat some some parts of the business weren't understood, 188 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: and and and some issues, you know, family issues when 189 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: I came about, and then we kind of fell apart 190 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: group UM. I had to make a decision. I had 191 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: to make a decision whether to stick around with with 192 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 1: my my two brothers who decided to leave l a 193 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: Um decided that they were going to leave l AM 194 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: or stay in l a And Finn for myself. And 195 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: that's the key word right there, Finn for yourself. That's 196 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: that's that's the that's the one that's why they left. Yeah, 197 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you something, man, a lot of 198 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: people want to be stars. A lot of people want 199 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: the dream of the pot at the end of the 200 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: wrong bow. But it's a lot of loneliness, Yea, there is. 201 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: And it's a lot of self doubt. You have to 202 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: you know, if you have faith, you have to. It's 203 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: so much, man, it's so much, it's so much, you know, 204 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, let's speed up to the last 205 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: five years. I say, for me have been one of 206 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: the hardest, one of the hardest times for me, just um, 207 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: just finding myself, finding what I love, um, finding out 208 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: my truth just in general and career. Is this music? 209 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: Is this what I want to do? Continue to do? 210 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: Is is this what I'm supposed to do? Um? Also 211 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: is this all I have? You know? And and and 212 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: around that time is very really scary and and and 213 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: then also just personal life that love and and wanting 214 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: to be in love and trying to have a life, 215 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: and and my putting everything inside of this in front 216 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: of me, you know, because I am I putting my 217 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: career ahead of living life and stuff? And am I 218 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: missing out on things? You know? And and you know 219 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: it was it was It was a lot, you know, 220 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: going through a not feeling like I was being appreciated 221 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: at a label, you know, trying to I mean, getting 222 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: all of these all of these opportunities, but not not 223 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: fully being able to capitalize on. Yeah, mac somebody, because 224 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: I didn't completely have the artistic freedom that I needed, 225 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: that that I needed in order to capitalize on so 226 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: many of the things that were coming to me, like film. 227 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: So you went five years, I'm going another five years. Okay, cool? 228 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: Today you know I'm in my staff, you know, we 229 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: do a meeting, alright and now and I always say 230 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: find out for guests, gonna come on the show, interesting, 231 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: come on the show. And I got staff and Jersey 232 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: and Richmond and conference call and they go. I go. 233 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: Then Luke James name, come on? Did I hear the 234 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: words chocolate drop? I don't. I don't play with I don't. 235 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: I couldn't even get past you know what did he do? 236 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: What did he got out? No? No, no, no, no, 237 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: chocolate job. It's gonna be on the show. He's gonna 238 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: be on the show. So so so so that means say, 239 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: some good times happening out there when you carry Monica. Yes, 240 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: but the ladies chocolate yes, yes, no, truly no, I 241 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: honestly need to be fair. It never it wasn't the 242 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: thought of my mind. I mean, the ladies make the choice, 243 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: they decide what it is. I just throw my hands 244 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: up and say, yes, I'll be that. That's how you 245 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: get a soul, That's how that's night at the masquerade. Yeah, 246 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: just me, I'm I'm man. I'm truly grateful, truly grateful. 247 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: This is yeah, this is this is this is all 248 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: born eighteen years old. I'm gonna follow my dream. Yeah, 249 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: I got to got to chocolate drop her actor. Man, 250 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: I mean, wow, are you making me think of these things? 251 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: Like I'm just grateful. Man. This is a journey man, 252 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: you know, it's a journey what I try to do 253 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: with money making conversations. I've been blessed because I know you. 254 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: I know you from the highs and the lows, and 255 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: there's some levels you're gonna get that I've experienced, you know, 256 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: private just walking in red carpets, multitude and things like that, 257 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: because I want you to experience that, because you're gonna 258 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: pay it forward because you year way I talk, you know, 259 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: because my legacy is sharing my experiences were younger with 260 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: the younger generation. Let them know it's possible. Absolutely. But 261 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: what happened to me, I started believing myself later in 262 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: the game. I'm asking you to believe in yourself now 263 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: that the opportunity to gives follow lead with him because 264 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: those sad moments can't win and what cannot beat you 265 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: is you. And that's all I'm saying is interview, because 266 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: we've got a lot to talk about, because we're gonna 267 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: get into that area. But the journey is important for 268 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: my listeners to here that you're a special young man 269 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: and you can have all these credits, and then what 270 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: do you do with those credits? How do you build? 271 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: How do you how you turn opportunity into momentum. And 272 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: this is what this conversation, this is what this interview 273 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: is about. You live in momentum. Absolutely the shot. You 274 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that momentum so that no tour, NonStop, 275 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: your singer is moving actor. You know, double hand, double hand, 276 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: you know. But you know something, You're humble, yeah, you 277 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: know because of the fact that we got our time 278 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: twitched up on this meeting. You didn't you didn't you 279 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: didn't jump, I go, I'm out. I'm hanging there, you know, 280 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: coming to apologize about the time confusion. But that's important 281 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: people to understand. That's who you are, you know, because 282 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: you understand situations. You know, you did not even let 283 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: an emotional moment the two an opportunity, because that's what 284 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: this interview is out, an opportunity. So we're gonna be 285 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: right back from my man two times sold that show. 286 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm put that in front the soul that showed out 287 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: Chocolate Drop. Luke James will be right back. More from 288 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: Mars McDonald the money making conversations. Don't touch that dog. 289 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: It's finally here the season of celebration. 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Yes, 331 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: and I think the more and more I tell the 332 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: truth on the show Money Making Conversation, people understand why 333 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: I do it. And you are you? You share your 334 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: your youthful, your your the plight of saying I made 335 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: a decision I was eighteen. A lot of people make 336 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: a decisions eighteen to go to college. But see that 337 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: path wasn't your path? You know why? You know, I 338 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: knew early on. I knew in school, I knew, and 339 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: I knew in high school. I knew I knew in 340 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: I knew in middle school. I remember I remember in 341 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: middle school saying, WHOA four more years of school? At eight? 342 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: Four more years? I don't know if I could do 343 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: another four after that, and then another four after that, 344 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: depending on what it is I want to do. And 345 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, I realized, man, I'm a I'm an artist. 346 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: I knew I was an artist, and I knew that 347 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: I needed to live life, and I knew life for 348 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: me wasn't happening inside of inside of the classroom. I 349 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: wish I'd have done better. I wish I would have 350 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: I would have I wish I had a more nurturing 351 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: environment to the way that I the way that my 352 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: particular mind thoughts right, you know, and that way I 353 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: would have been more susceptible to um the actual lessons 354 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: and then also the arts, because I think I was 355 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: just really big on arts and highly distracted and you know, 356 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, a d h D on top of everything. 357 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: You know. The thing about it is that because your 358 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: your age group get criticized or being visionaries for being 359 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: not par not following the traditional path. You know, my 360 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: age group. You know, you're supposed to go to college. 361 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: It's a good job, you know. Then you raise your family, 362 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: get a retire, but all that starts being shattered under 363 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: your under your pensions and for one kids and jobs 364 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: that never laid your off and never fired you started 365 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: firing you and yeah company and started getting swallowed up. 366 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: So you were educated there if there's no trust here, 367 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: who did I trust but myself myself for myself. I 368 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: put it all them on myself. I knew earlier on 369 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: my mom knew my mom my mom my mom was 370 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: always on on me about like, this is your dream, 371 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: this is your dream. And at the end of the day, 372 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: when you have your kids, you have your wife, they're 373 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: gonna look at you. Why why you don't have this 374 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: and that? Okay, now we're gonna look at this this 375 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: new CD. Yes you know, okay the title yes, because 376 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: this has a love slash d Yes. Okay, so it's 377 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: two titles. Yes. I thought to feel love to feel loved. 378 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: I find that those are two different things. You know, 379 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: you can you can feel love. You can feel loved 380 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: and not feel loved, or you can feel loved and 381 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: not feel loved, you know, in a sense of being 382 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: able to reciprocate it being in in a sense of 383 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: you know, um, you know it's around you, but you 384 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: don't particularly feel it. And that's you know, that's something 385 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: that may not be something you're about your surroundings or 386 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: it could be. But it's also it's it's all either way. 387 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: It is. It's a it's a you have to reflect 388 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: on yourself, you have to look into yourself and find 389 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: out what those issues are. And creating this album, that 390 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: really was what it was about for me. I just 391 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: was in that place of not really feeling love or loved. 392 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: And I definitely had love, have love around me, and 393 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: have always had love around me. But it's just I 394 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: guess a numbing that I was getting being in part 395 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: of it, being in the business and having in my life. 396 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: And you know, they say, you know, it's business and 397 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: not personal, but as an artists, everything's personal, you know, 398 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: so because we are we're all emotional people. Yes, you know, 399 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: it's really it's really interesting when people, You know, when 400 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: people look at when I was a comedian or your 401 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: your your artists from a singing perspective, people look at 402 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: you and they go, you should be always happy. You 403 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: should be somewhere writing the song. I should be happy, 404 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, dude. I see life differently. I see I 405 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: see I see probably more trouble than you see. I 406 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: feel everything. People people really don't understand. I feel like 407 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: my I feel everything. I feel hurt, I can I 408 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: can feel joy, But I mean there's a lot going on, 409 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: and especially when you when you're in the business, it 410 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: can be it can be tough when you're trying to 411 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: really believe in yourself, push yourself through something and you 412 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: find yourself in a box, and I think this, this 413 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: album is a bridge, right, this is a bridge from 414 00:22:55,240 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: that place to where I'm going, um, which is which 415 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: is way more, way more sweeter and and and freeing 416 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: because this is this is my new endeavor, my first 417 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: uh record as an independent artist, you know, UM, A 418 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: fearless move. Absolutely, I feel truly free. I'm I'm in 419 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: a new I know I have a new life, you know, 420 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: new career path that that has expanded. I've always prayed 421 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: that that my uh, that I can expand my that 422 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: God allowed me to expand my territory. And I didn't 423 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: think it'd be like this, but I'm grateful it is. Well, 424 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: this is you know, I look at your your a 425 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: great smile and uh and and your your passion, and 426 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: you're very honest. You know about your pain. Because I 427 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: think that if you if you tell the truth, then 428 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: you don't have no reason a lot. And I think 429 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: that if if my story pushes you away, then I 430 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: needed to. I want to tell my story a lot. 431 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: You needed to hear it. You need to hear it. 432 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: And so so when we look at the album, tell 433 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: me talk about some of the songs on the album. 434 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: Why you approach the music that way because you distinctively 435 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: told there's two titles here, so there's two different tones 436 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: that will be thrown out. How many how many cuts 437 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 1: on this nine cuts? Nine cuts? Um, you know, one 438 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: of them, one of them, one of the songs. Uh. 439 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: And it's it's more of it what you call it interlude. 440 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: For me, if I'm looking at looking at it like 441 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: a play, then it's a it's an intermission. Um. And 442 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: this this, this intermission is called gratitude. And it came about, um, 443 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, in a moment, a real honest moment where 444 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: I needed to remind myself how grateful, how blessed I am, 445 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: right right right, you know. Um, you know, we all 446 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 1: get in our heads and we all think everything seems 447 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: seems like everything is wrong and not right. And at 448 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: some point, you know, and and and a lot of 449 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: times in those moments, you gotta you gotta take a breather. 450 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: Everything is totally fine. That that's champagne problems. That is 451 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: really nothing to really a the rest of the day 452 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: to go bad. So in that moment, I happened to 453 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: be in the booth in the studio feeling that way. 454 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, I asked the asked the engineer to give 455 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: me a blank slate. Man, I just need I just 456 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: need to yell right now. And I just started screaming, 457 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: I am blessed, blessed, blessed, I am blessed, blessed, blessed, 458 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: and and that became I was like, Wow, this is affirmation, 459 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: this is something I need, this anthem an anthem, and 460 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: it's for me again. This this album is very personal, 461 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: these songs. So from that song that that's a that 462 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: was a moment that I felt like I needed and 463 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: I needed to constantly hear that and why not make 464 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: a song about it? And then wow, I think other 465 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: people would need the same thing. Uh, Moving on to 466 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: another song called Traveling, where I travel a lot. My 467 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: life is like on the road all the time, and 468 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm always in a hotel, a new hotel all the time. 469 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: I wish I've kept the keys from each hotel. Isn't 470 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: the worst when you wake up and you go where? Man? Yes, 471 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: that's that's hard. I'm always I'm wait, wait, wait where again? 472 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: What I don't even ask about the time. I don't 473 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: even know. I don't know what the timetable is here. 474 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm just here, you know. And so that I created 475 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: a song called Traveling because I just thought, you know, 476 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: I spent a lot of my times in the hotel, 477 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: and when you don't know where else to go for me, 478 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: my imagination runs wild, and I wanted to write something 479 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: that was very cerebral and kind of spoke to that, 480 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: that essence of of just um going on a voyage, 481 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: mentally thinking, putting yourself where you want to be, thinking, thinking, 482 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: thinking it first, and then somehow you appear there, which 483 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a manifestation. I think that's the power 484 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: of that. I think I think that's you have to 485 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: work on that and constantly build that your your maniffesto 486 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: up now, show to right. It is a tour, it's 487 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: a promo tour. This is this is a small intimate 488 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: setting so I can get reconnected with my my day 489 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: ones and my new fans, and and also this is 490 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: new music and I want to I wanna, I want 491 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: to perform and work on these records in front of people, 492 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: but in the smallest setting. We'll get bigger, we'll get larger, 493 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: but right now, I just want to touch the people. 494 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: When I had Padda Bell on the album came out 495 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: of a year and a half ago, she wanted to 496 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: do a small tool yeah, because she wanted to touch 497 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: the people, you know, intimate, because you it's really interesting man, 498 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: because you know, I've been in Mason Square Garden, that's 499 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: you know, the eighteen thousand people. I've been in the 500 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: Philips Arena fifteen thou people. And so I know what 501 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: you you can just because I'm they're laughing way back 502 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: up there, up there, I can remember I started in 503 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: the club yeah yeah, which is way more challenging, which 504 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: you can see the eyeballs all the way to the 505 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: back of yeah yeah. And so when they're nodding their head, 506 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: you can see all them no on their heads. It 507 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: is right right right, And that's that's a beautiful feeling. 508 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: And so so I can understand why you're doing in 509 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: this type of tour because you have the right to 510 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: do that. You have the right to test yourself. You 511 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: have the right to spand what's inside you, what you 512 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: feel is right. And a lot of people, let's go 513 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: for the bigger opportunity. Let's go for this. No, No, 514 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: i'ma tell you something. You could when you're gonna fall back. 515 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: We all fall back, but you got to know how 516 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: to get up. You have to do this right here, 517 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: giving you the tools off how to stay up right. 518 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: That's right, stay stay up now. I'll be remiss if 519 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't talk about the shot. Okay, Okay, Chicago, let's 520 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: get into it. Okay. Now, the character you're playing, the 521 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: little kid with the with the with the dreads, I 522 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: played his older brother. Now, i'ta tell you something. That 523 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: look kid, which I love because he runs with the 524 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: little young kid and uh, and uh when you pull 525 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: out that gun man, I was always I've always been 526 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: worried about that. If you have not seen the shot. 527 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: Luke James, you're coming on this season as the older brother, 528 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: and uh, the story. Uh really, I really cater to 529 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: these three boards because I'm always afraid for them because 530 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: if you know anybody Chicago, Chicago in the summertime, it's like, dude, 531 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: it's like uh, dead man walking for young black youth, 532 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: especially around fourth of July the holidays for some reason. 533 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: And I know that, and so when I look at 534 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: this show, I see this innocence and then I see 535 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: then I see what could possibly go wrong for the innocence. Then, 536 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: so to me, this character is perfect for you playing 537 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: the older brother, absolutely because You've got a younger brother 538 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: who thinks he knows Oh yeah, I think he thinks 539 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: he knows everything. And I'm the brother that has been 540 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: through it already. Absolutely, I've seen it already. I've been 541 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: I've been to the dark side. I've been near death, 542 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: and I don't want that for him, right, And so 543 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: I come in. I come in by any means necessary 544 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: to get my little brother out of to save him 545 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 1: from this. That's you know, you know where he's at 546 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: the Yeah, you know if he's if he's willing to 547 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: pack a gun. Yeah, yeah, he's a man in his eye, right, 548 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: And so your advice that you couldn't give it, We 549 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: don't have to look at that pisode. If you're if 550 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: you're a fan of the show, I know what you're 551 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: walking into. Yeah, you know, where were you at? That's 552 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: the numb more statement just coming out of his mouth? Yeah, 553 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: where were you at? That? That was that? I mean, 554 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: it was a fight. It's a fight. It's it's definitely 555 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: a fight because my character is the type of character 556 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: is just his way, you know, he I mean, they 557 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: have similar mentalities, they have very similar mentalities. My way 558 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: is the only way, you know, And and Luckily, my 559 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: character has a as a um has has has a 560 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: love that that is very supportive to him, but also 561 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: to keep him, to remind him of his younger self 562 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: and know and and to remind him that you can't 563 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: just approach your little brother the way you think as 564 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: your little brother, you must have you must approach him 565 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: as another man. You know. It's really interesting because I 566 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: have six sisters and two brothers, and one of my 567 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: younger brothers, I didn't realize how much how much he 568 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: depended on my guide. In some ways, I may have 569 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: failed him, you know. I have to say that honestly, 570 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: because I dude, I was trying to live. I was 571 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: trying to grow up. I wish iall were trying to 572 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: find out how man, you know, And so that's why 573 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: this character I'm really interested in watching and seeing you 574 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: in person here. I'm really interested because you have some 575 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: nice and tangible as a human being, and I know 576 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna bring that to that role. You know, it's 577 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: because when I say that, there's an innocence and there's 578 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: also a pain because of the fact that you made 579 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: mistakes because you're trying to find yourself. People got just 580 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: used the wrong way now this kid is coming along 581 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: with this kid and your younger brother going you weren't 582 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: there because watch you to listen to you. Okay, what 583 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: can you do to make my life better? That's a challenge, man, 584 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: that's like a foot in the face. Really, I mean truly, 585 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what you see is you. It's 586 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: it's the hard truth. It's really true. It's really true, 587 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: hard hard truth. Because I mean a lot of a 588 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: lot of men we go through we go through that, 589 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: and we we have to. It's I find that it's 590 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: a good opportunity for to be able to show someone 591 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: reaching back, someone having that that experience and trying their 592 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: hardest to not stay stay in that experience, and to 593 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: pull someone out of it, you know, not just it, 594 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: but you know because he's it feels like he's just 595 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: about his brother, but he cares about his brother's friends 596 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: because his brother cares about it his friends. So wherever 597 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: his friends go, you know, his little brother will go. 598 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: So I need to care about his his friends too, 599 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: to make sure they're out of trouble and understand what's 600 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: what's at stake, and not to play these games. But 601 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: it's uh, yeah, no, I'm really I'm really grateful to 602 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: be able to play this particular role in his character. Um, 603 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: because I've grown up around people like this and people 604 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: who have been through these things, and and and because 605 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: in some ways New Orleans black people, community, every soul food, 606 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: it's a big thing in Chicago as well as the 607 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: New Orleans you know, community yes, the hood, yes, the 608 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: stand in it, and and being proud of government influence 609 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: right right right, you know. So that's what I'm saying. Man, 610 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm excited about about seeing you on this role this year. 611 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna close and 612 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: say this. You know, intros are what they are. They 613 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: talked about they talk about what you accomplish. But as 614 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: we as we walk through this interview, you see what 615 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: you are accomplishing now, and so see that's the merger. 616 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: That's that's the value of success. You know. You know, 617 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: we gotta mention what you did, but you always want 618 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: to talk about what you're doing. You're doing and so 619 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: without tool, that's okay, you're doing the shot. You gotta 620 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: see d out there now and you're chocolate drop. I mean, 621 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: what is that a complaint about life? 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