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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros m LB. This is

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Baseball Podcast. It is me Joey p Joe

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Speaker 1: Pi's APA, and today we're going to turn things around.

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Speaker 1: Last show, we were talking about the players the projections love.

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Speaker 1: This time we're talking about projections that maybe aren't too

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Speaker 1: kind to some of the players. This year, in twenty

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Speaker 1: in that as well. Gentlemen, let's just jump in with

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Speaker 1: both feed here because we've got a lot to get

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Speaker 1: to today. I want to start with a hitter this

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Speaker 1: time that is possibly someone that we got to look

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Speaker 1: at in terms of their projections for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Christian Yelich. Now, I took him in

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Speaker 1: yesterday's draft because he fell a little too far from

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Speaker 1: my liking. Was an OBP League two and I like

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Speaker 1: Yelich there. But right now, projections on ATC having for

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five games, no shocker there. Always

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Speaker 1: want to put some miss time in there for him.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen homers, just seventy four RBI and seventy four run,

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Speaker 1: batting average. Well, Sha'll start with you on this one here.

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Speaker 1: Obviously last year was a solid year for Christian Yelwich,

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Speaker 1: but we've all known in the past it's been a

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Speaker 1: little dice in terms of playing time, in terms of health.

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Speaker 1: So are these projections kind of alluding to something that

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Speaker 1: we should be accounting into our brains when we're drafting him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if you want to talk about, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, projections, hating a player, this is the guy.

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Speaker 2: And what it looks like, especially if they're taking into

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Speaker 2: looking at this and they're saying, we don't really believe

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Speaker 2: twenty four. We don't believe twenty three because last year,

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Speaker 2: we're some monster numbers. This is a pretty big downgrade.

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Speaker 2: They're talking him playing fifteen less games, ten less homers.

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Speaker 2: He hit twenty nine homers last year with a two

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Speaker 2: sixty four average. The year before that, by the way,

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Speaker 2: he hit three point fifteen. This is just seeing things

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Speaker 2: coming down, even though he's not striking out more. This

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Speaker 2: is way less homers. He's got him at nineteen homers

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Speaker 2: in the same amount of stolen bases. But you know,

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Speaker 2: if you look at him overall last year, he barreled

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Speaker 2: this has always been a Christian Yelich thing, is he

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Speaker 2: had an absurdly ridiculous one point nine degree launch angle.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he is unable to lift the ball. So

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Speaker 2: I think that's where some of this comes from. It's

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Speaker 2: interesting that ATC is an aggregate. Something like the bad

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Speaker 2: data and they would pull and they'd be like, man,

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Speaker 2: that's great that he's barreling in a high degree. That's

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, the projection really does hate him. Comparatively,

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Speaker 2: I kind of see where it is. But I gotta

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Speaker 2: tell you, I think it's just hard to bet against

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Speaker 2: Christian Yelich. The thing that hurts him is when he

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Speaker 2: doesn't play games. But he said two seasons out of

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Speaker 2: He hits for average. This team is gonna be highly competitive.

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Speaker 2: The projections hate him, but I don't. I don't hate

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Speaker 2: Christian Yelich in this one, but this is a wildly

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Speaker 1: Let's see the scot bobs actually do hate him, though, Well,

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Speaker 1: why you do hate him according to your ranking.

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Speaker 3: Well, I can't believe I'm higher on Christian Yelich than

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Speaker 3: you are this year because I have traditionally not been

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Speaker 3: a Christian Yelich guy. But I think looking at him

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Speaker 3: in particular with projections, it reminds me I went to

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Speaker 3: who does babs right the broad assessment of everyone. And

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Speaker 3: I love the way he pointed out something. He said,

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Speaker 3: player a player be and all this stuff. But he said,

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Speaker 3: let's just take any player. Right, they hit twenty four

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Speaker 3: homers in their first year, they hit thirty five in

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Speaker 3: their next year. What's your projection for this year? And

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Speaker 3: everybody said, like thirty you know, like in the middle,

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Speaker 3: Yelich and he was different than he typically has been

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Speaker 3: in years past. Right, the OBP was down, the walk

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Speaker 3: rate was way down. He had been over ten percent

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Speaker 3: every year of his career since twenty sixteen, and he

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Speaker 3: fell to nine point nine this year. His k rate

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Speaker 3: he's a different player. But the bottom line was great

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Speaker 3: numbers to sixty four average, eighty eight twenty nine, one

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Speaker 3: end of the day, as long as he stays healthy,

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Speaker 3: you have a pretty good player here. I think where

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Speaker 3: he hits in the lineup, he's obviously aging and he's

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Speaker 3: going to lose a little bit, but I think maybe

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Speaker 3: the projections went a little far on the negativity here

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the age is going to be turning thirty

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Speaker 1: a guy who's got a history of back issues. But

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Speaker 1: last year was terrific. I'm somewhere in the middle between

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Speaker 1: last year and the projections actually, so to answer that

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Speaker 1: weird question in a weird way, that's where I am

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Speaker 1: one Yelwick. And the biggest thing I could tell you

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Speaker 1: is discount if he falls too far. I like him

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Speaker 1: if he's going at his current ADP, which typically right now,

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Speaker 1: looking at it on Fantasy pros, the consensus he is

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Speaker 1: the ninety fourth player over all, the twenty seventh outfielder.

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Speaker 1: I think that's okay. Some other guys like I think

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Speaker 1: Yelich is more intriguing than those guys.

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Speaker 2: And one other thing to point out technically, in an

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Speaker 2: so he went.

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Speaker 1: A great point.

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Speaker 2: So that would say so if he's at Utao lonely,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about another thing, and I just want to say, like,

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Speaker 2: I agree. Overall, my rank isn't high. I'm not the

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Speaker 2: biggest buyer of him, but I think I'm in the middle,

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Speaker 2: and I'm probably in that stupid thing that you were

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Speaker 2: just talking about where it's like, well, listen, like, I

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Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna hit more homers, but I don't

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Speaker 2: think he's a sub twenty home run guy. If he's healthy,

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Speaker 2: thank he's somewhere in the twenty to twenty five range.

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Speaker 2: I think he steals fifteen to twenty. Hopefully the back

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Speaker 2: that also hurts him. But this is probably the most

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Speaker 2: dramatic low decrease year over year from what they did

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Speaker 2: last year compared to what the projections are this year

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Speaker 2: for a pretty big name player.

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Speaker 1: I think the next one is actually pretty dramatic too,

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Speaker 1: because last year Trevor Story had I think a very

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Speaker 1: surprising season. To be honest, age thirty three turning thirty four.

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Speaker 1: Last year, twenty five homers, drove in ninety six scored

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Speaker 1: ninety one runs, still thirty one bases, a two sixty

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Speaker 1: three batting average. The projections this year going in though

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Speaker 1: only one hundred and thirty six games, just twenty homers,

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Speaker 1: seventy two runs, seventy two RBI and a drop off

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Speaker 1: two to forty eight batting average. Bogs. I'm gonna let

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Speaker 1: you kick this one off here, Trevor. Story from these

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Speaker 1: projections to me is a very tough sale.

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Speaker 3: It's almost the same, you know, bucket, the same deal

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Speaker 3: as Christian Yealich, an aging player who last season I

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: It was forty three games in twenty twenty three, it

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Speaker 3: was twenty six in twenty twenty four. So last year

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm done. I think this guy is

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Speaker 3: And he had such a great season, really just gave

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Speaker 3: me the middle finger. Two sixty three, ninety one, ninety six,

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Speaker 3: twenty five and thirty one. Amazing season for him. So

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be back in I have him in

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Speaker 3: the top one hundred as well, So I understand the decreases.

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Speaker 3: And this is based on the track record of him

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Speaker 3: staying healthy and uh, but one hundred and thirty six games,

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Speaker 3: maybe that's right, but again based on what because he's

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Speaker 3: just been he's been one fifty seven, twenty six, forty three,

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Speaker 3: ninety four, right, like basic, how are we just gonna

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Speaker 3: say one thirty six? To me, it seems like he's

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Speaker 3: either gonna play almost every game or he's gonna miss

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Speaker 3: a massive amount. So, uh, you know, I think where

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Speaker 3: you take him if he falls, I'm going to be

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Speaker 3: snapping him up everywhere I can as a CI. I'll

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Speaker 3: just say that, or am I excuse me?

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Speaker 1: Sure? Well, in twenty twenty one, that's the last like

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Speaker 1: full season we had on Trevor's story before last year

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Speaker 1: it was one hundred and forty two games. He did

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Speaker 1: it twenty four homers, So the guy in the powers

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Speaker 1: there stole twenty bases. But the batting average at two

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Speaker 1: fifty one, which I think is tracking a little closer

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Speaker 1: to what this is saying too. So I mean, really,

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Speaker 1: it does feel like if you got Trevor's story on

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Speaker 1: the chief. Last year, you did pretty well for yourself.

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Speaker 1: But this year, as current ADP, is he a little

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Speaker 1: dicey for you as well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you don't want to You never want

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Speaker 2: to pay for a guy this year what they did

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Speaker 2: last year. I think there's a little bit Heraldo Perdomo's

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Speaker 2: what comes to mind here also, because statistically both these

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Speaker 1: last year, no doubt about it. I'm just not willing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I completely agree with that the projections

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Speaker 2: But there's some really big warning signs with him. He's

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Speaker 2: we have.

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Speaker 1: Then I'll take it.

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Speaker 2: I'm complementing the argument, not you. Sorry, so sorry. Now,

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Speaker 2: we had that discussion where Arico was trashing my guy

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Speaker 2: To I'm open to it. I'm not as black and

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Speaker 1: I were talking about Ozzie Albies and both of us

430
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Speaker 1: kind of look at the same way, which is the

431
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Speaker 1: upside of Albis is pretty hot if he can ever

432
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Speaker 1: get back to what he was a couple of years ago.

433
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Speaker 1: Problem is, the projections are not too bullish about that.

434
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Speaker 1: One hundred and forty games, seventeen homers, sixty nine runs,

435
00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,639
Speaker 1: seventy one RBI eleven stolen bases and just a two

436
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Speaker 1: to forty nine batting average. When Ozzy Alby's is at

437
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Speaker 1: his best, he is much higher than the eighth second

438
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Speaker 1: basement overall. In fact, a couple of years ago he

439
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Speaker 1: had a thirty three ninety six one h nine season

440
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Speaker 1: with thirteen stolen bases. So, well, I'll start with you

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Speaker 1: on this one, Ozzi Albi's in your opinion, I understand

442
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,720
Speaker 1: the projections don't love him, but considering what the rest

443
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Speaker 1: of this field looks like where he's going between Luke

444
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Speaker 1: Keishaw and Jordan Westberg who was already dealing with some

445
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 1: UCL injuries at his elbow Brandon Lau, I feel like

446
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Speaker 1: Albi's is still worth it despite the fact that projections

447
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Speaker 1: don't like him. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a big Ozzy Albi's guy. That's part

449
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Speaker 2: of the problem here, But I'd almost argue that the

450
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,600
Speaker 2: projections are kind of friendly now they're not, well, no,

451
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Speaker 2: but like they don't look good comparative to that good

452
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Speaker 2: version of Ozzy Albi's, which, by the way, there's pretty

453
00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 2: much only two seasons of that, and that is four

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Speaker 2: seasons ago in twenty twenty three. So the projections based

455
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Speaker 2: off of that are not favorable. But like ATC has

456
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Speaker 2: projected a higher batting average, more homers than he had

457
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Speaker 2: last year, a little bit less on the other counting stats,

458
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Speaker 2: but that's kind of favorable. Here's what I'll agree based

459
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Speaker 2: on his cost right now, there's a lot of upside.

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Speaker 2: You could do, could you could do worse. I probably

461
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Speaker 2: still taking Luke Keishel ahead of him, and we've talked

462
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Speaker 2: about it. The position can get away. But my big

463
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Speaker 2: argument has been, like it's just kind of been just declining,

464
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Speaker 2: you know, declining returns, Like his barrel rates are going down,

465
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Speaker 2: his hard hit rate is going down. He's doing the

466
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Speaker 2: things that you want to see when you lose those

467
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 2: you want to see, okay, like get the ball in

468
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Speaker 2: the air and pull the ball. He is doing that

469
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 2: extreme degree twenty seven point two percent pulled air percentage.

470
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Speaker 2: You pulled the ball in the air, which you want

471
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Speaker 2: to do for home runs, more than he had ever

472
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Speaker 2: done in his career, and it accounted to sixteen homers.

473
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Speaker 2: So that's my problem. The overall production is declining. The

474
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Speaker 2: adjustments he's making aren't really working. The overall hitting profile

475
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Speaker 2: is I mean, it is bottom twenty percent tile of

476
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Speaker 2: the league, so there's no doubt that there is upside

477
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Speaker 2: in who he's been before and where he could go.

478
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Speaker 2: But I think the projections are telling a story that

479
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Speaker 2: even at one twenty that might be too high. So

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of out on Ozzie Albi's I think the projections,

481
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Speaker 2: even though they hate him, this has been the same

482
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Speaker 2: version of him since twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I mean twenty twenty three obviously a fantastic year,

484
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Speaker 1: and look, he'd done it multiple times, so it wasn't

485
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Speaker 1: like a one year wonder kind of thing. He had

486
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Speaker 1: two thirty one hundred, one hundred seasons basically and a

487
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Speaker 1: couple other twenty four one hundred seasons as well one

488
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Speaker 1: hundred run score. So boggs to me, like, this is

489
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Speaker 1: a player. He's not thirty four to thirty five years

490
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 1: old like some of these guys we were talking about before.

491
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Speaker 1: He's still just twenty nine. So I'm buying back in

492
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Speaker 1: on the cheap. But I definitely think the projections are fair.

493
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Speaker 1: Let me put that out. Projections don't like him, I

494
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Speaker 1: think that's fair. I think it's all about valuing the

495
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Speaker 1: player in the context and to the context of Albi's

496
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Speaker 1: because second base is week is a context of which

497
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Speaker 1: I'm willing to draft him at his ADP. But where

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Speaker 1: do you stand?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not in on Albi's either. I just like

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Speaker 3: the decline has been three seasons in a row. He's

501
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Speaker 3: low in the batting order now, I just I want

502
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Speaker 3: to get second base before this. I also think there's

503
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Speaker 3: some guys I like Jorge Polanco who's going way after

504
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Speaker 3: him at this point. So I don't think I'm going

505
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Speaker 3: to be in on Azzi Albiz either. It's in his

506
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 3: cost isn't crazy, right, But just where you have him,

507
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Speaker 3: where you have to put him comparative to the rest

508
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Speaker 3: of the group. Really, it's only the second base eligibility

509
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Speaker 3: that's bringing him up. So I'm probably not going to

510
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Speaker 3: be in on Albi's too many times this year.

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Speaker 1: All Right, The last hit we're gonna talk about Addlie Rutchman.

512
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Speaker 1: And obviously catchers are always intriguing prospect too. To catcher

513
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Speaker 1: leagues changes the value single catcher leagues. You know me,

514
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: I'm waiting until we're getting to Kyle TiO and Francisco

515
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Speaker 1: Alvarez and one of those guys, and I'm taking them

516
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Speaker 1: but Ali Rutchman a player that I think people were

517
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Speaker 1: waiting on for a while to really become a superstarrt.

518
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Speaker 1: He hasn't become that. The projections this year suggest seventeen homers,

519
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Speaker 1: sixty four runs, sixty four rbi, one stone base, and

520
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 1: a two forty nine batting average. To me, that is

521
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 1: not a very exciting stat line, especially when you consider

522
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Speaker 1: where he's going, which is still the eleventh catcher off

523
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Speaker 1: the board. He's not exactly free, but in two catcher leagues,

524
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Speaker 1: he's still somebody that you have to kind of draft aggressively,

525
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Speaker 1: but certainly at least at a value. And I just

526
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Speaker 1: don't know if I'm there yet, Bogs. Where are you

527
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: at with Lady Rutchman? And let's talk about the context too,

528
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: between the single and two catcher leagues, how you would

529
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Speaker 1: approach him?

530
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, we've Welsh and I have done

531
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Speaker 3: a ton of mock drafts for your twelve man fifteen

532
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,479
Speaker 3: man single catcher league and Rutchman is like borderline even going.

533
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Speaker 3: So I think that's too low. He's a great value

534
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: this year, though, So I'm I am fine with where

535
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Speaker 3: he's going. I think that he should be better this season,

536
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Speaker 3: and I think that hate it's gone a little bit

537
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 3: too far on Adley, so I'll buy back in here.

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Speaker 1: All right, Welsh, where are you with heaviey Rushman?

539
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of surprised is projections are so low, Like

540
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Speaker 2: I understand it. There's a point where they're going to

541
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Speaker 2: just be like, all right, you know, never had a

542
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 2: two hundred ISO, He's hit twenty homers once in his career.

543
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 2: You know, the batting average. We always we thought this

544
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: is gonna be a guy who's gonna hit like three hundred.

545
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: You know, it's gonna be one of those catchers that

546
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: walks into a twenty five home ruend season. It's just

547
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 2: never materialized. So I understand it from that standpoint. But

548
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: he's just got like such an elite like I don't with,

549
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 2: I don't chase, I don't strike out profile. Things kind

550
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 2: of fell apart this past year. But like hard hit

551
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: rate was the same, He barreled the ball the same.

552
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Speaker 2: The only thing he didn't do was he wasn't able

553
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Speaker 2: to lift the ball and pull the ball. And pulling

554
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Speaker 2: the ball in their home ballpark is a really good

555
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: advantage that you know, the wind tunnel and as far

556
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Speaker 2: as when he is batting as a left hander, the

557
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 2: right side of the field has been really beneficial, but

558
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 2: then as on the left side, you know, it's a

559
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: little bit more pitcher friendly. So all of this to say, like,

560
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Speaker 2: I'm in on Adlee because I think there's still like

561
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Speaker 2: this really good profile that's in there, especially that he's

562
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Speaker 2: going so late. But I also can't deny that the

563
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: projections are really not inspiring. Like ATC has got him

564
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 2: hitting under two fifty, and he has hit over two

565
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Speaker 2: fifty two of the last three years he had twenty

566
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Speaker 2: and nineteen homers. They haven't projected at seventeen, so I'm

567
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Speaker 2: a little surprised that the projections dislike him. It's weighted

568
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Speaker 2: very much to this past season, a lot more lineup protection.

569
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Speaker 2: I think Adley's in for a bounce back, but they

570
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: definitely are not into him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, the overall ADP is at one fifty two,

572
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Speaker 1: and I'm looking around that range. I'd rather have no

573
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Speaker 1: one like Marte Gavin Williams. I'd like to take a

574
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Speaker 1: shot on Mackenzie Gore.

575
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Speaker 2: I agree with that.

576
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at some of the other guys around there.

577
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Speaker 1: Jackson holiday late intriguing Trevor Rodgers another guy too. I

578
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Speaker 1: really like what we did last year. Sandy al Contra like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know man, like I just find a hard

580
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Speaker 1: sell to take Addie Rutchmand because I don't know how

581
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Speaker 1: he's going to separate himself from the rest of the

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Speaker 1: catchers that are going that are free. You know that

583
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Speaker 1: I just can't get there.

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that.

585
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Speaker 2: I don't usually see him go in the one fifties.

586
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: I see him go later. But to your point, he's

587
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: not worth reaching and all those names that you said

588
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 2: are probably much more worthwhile taking instead of being like

589
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: I have to get Gabby and then settling for Alejandro

590
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: Kirk or even Gabby Marino.

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00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: Even Drew Rasmus and Bubba Chandler, like from the names

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00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 1: I listened the world between one forty five and one

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Speaker 1: All right, let's switch gears here to the starting pitchers,

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Speaker 1: and let us begin with Jacob Mizerowski, A very divisive

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Speaker 1: figure of the projections. I was shocked by this. Welsh

617
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Speaker 1: don't love Jacob Mizerowski, yet the fantasy nerd community as

618
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Speaker 1: a whole tends to embrace him for the most part.

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Speaker 1: Nine and seven just one hundred and thirty seven innings,

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Speaker 1: One hundred and thirty seven innings. So are they telling

622
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Speaker 1: us there's injury? Are they telling us that there's inefficiencies?

623
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Speaker 1: A four h six era one hundred and fifty six

624
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Speaker 1: strikeouts in those one hundred and thirty seven innings and

625
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Speaker 1: sixty two walks. Welsh, where do you staying with these

626
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Speaker 1: Miserowski ATC projections.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of an enigma. I've been pretty open

628
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: and I might be so wrong about it and just

629
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Speaker 2: it will be miserable. But like I'm I'm a little

630
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Speaker 2: off of Jacob Miserowski. I've listed him as kind of

631
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: a bust and I think it's for some of the

632
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: reasons that are kind of put in our face as

633
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Speaker 2: far as the projections go. What I think would be

634
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 2: surprising to people are the projections by the bad walks,

635
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: but they don't they love the strikeouts, but they don't

636
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: buy the elite level. He almost had a twelve k

637
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: per nine last year and they're putting him close into

638
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: the tens. Not to say that that's not good, but

639
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: you know, with a high walk rate, there might be

640
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Speaker 2: some concerns there as well. Most projection systems Oopsie by

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Speaker 2: the way, the Oopsie projection system is like in love

642
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: with Jacob Mizerowski. They haven't had a three to four ERA,

643
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: but ATC has him over four and last year he

644
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: had an over four ERA. So you know, he's got

645
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: great extension, it's a great fastball. It's gonna be interesting

646
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: what happens with that slider. Those are my big questions.

647
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: He's got walk problems and the power slider is great,

648
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: but I mean, dude, last year got hit at a

649
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: two thirty nine batting average, Like, I think that thing

650
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: can die sometimes. So can he live off of the

651
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: fastball all year? Can he go deep into games? Maybe

652
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: they're going deep into games? Is also what's kind of

653
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: thrown in our face as far as the projections go.

654
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: So I'm well, I'm not surprised by the projections, and

655
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: I think I would agree overall because it kind of

656
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: fuels the like, hey, listen, how people are drafting him.

657
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: They don't. I don't think anyone's drafting him thinking he's

658
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: an over four e RA guy. I think people are

659
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: drafting him like he's going one hundred and seventy innings

660
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: and he's gonna have a three and a half. He's

661
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: be like his expected era and he's gonna have two

662
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: hundred plus strikeouts. That is in the realm of possibility,

663
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: but I think there's more volatility in it. So I'm

664
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: kind of I'm kind of passing.

665
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: Boggs after Miserowski and the consensus adp over Fantasy Proo, Schlitler, Lodolo, Wheeler, Kingdoald,

666
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: excuse me, Peppio, Shehan a lot of interesting names. I

667
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: feel better about almost interesting names as well. Yeah, I

668
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: mean I get look, none of them are perfect, right,

669
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: but I guess, like to me Misowski again, I think

670
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: you can look at a guy like Pepio, Let's say,

671
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: and say, okay, he does he have the upside of

672
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: a Miserowski. No, But I think I know what I'm

673
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: getting there, and I think that has some sort of

674
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: value that is important and shouldn't be overlooked.

675
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that can. I think things can be

676
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: the same and fair, right like, I think Pepio has

677
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: a much higher floor than Jacob Mizerowski. And I think

678
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 3: the reason why the projections don't like him as much

679
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: in terms of innings pitched and all that stuff is

680
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: because he did play out of the bullpen last year.

681
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: Right So I feel fine with where Jacob Misrowski is going.

682
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: I feel like these are a little bit light. Like

683
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: well said, I would point out that his XCRA, his SIERRA,

684
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: his x FIP were all well under four. So to

685
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 3: have him go over four in these projections, it's it's

686
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 3: acceptable because young pitchers are volatile, right like, and he

687
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: could definitely blow up in your face. But I think

688
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: the key is if you're drafting Miserrowski, you get floor later.

689
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: He is a conditional player. But you can say the

690
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: same thing about Chase Burns and Shutler and like all

691
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: these other you know, younger players. So I feel like,

692
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: you know, taking him as a risk, but you have

693
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 3: to take your pitching risks somewhere. So I don't mind

694
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: taking Jacob Misrowski where he's going. Is he you know,

695
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: two high or too low? I don't think so. I

696
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: think he's rated properly, but you have to know what

697
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: you're buying when you buy Jacob miss Rowski. That's the

698
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: whole thing. So I think I think he's better than Projections.

699
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 3: But I understand being leary of young pictures.

700
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: All right, Let's see if you're larry about Spencer Strider,

701
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: because this Projection system, sure is, they have ing a

702
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: three nine four at eleven and nine record just twenty

703
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: six games, one hundred and fifty six innings. But in

704
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: that one hundred and fifty six innings, one hundred and

705
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: eighty three strikeouts, fifty six walks. I did watch the

706
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: last start Boggs. He was working in the you know,

707
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: ninety three ish range. Could it be a different version

708
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: of Spencer Strider that can get away with that? And maybe?

709
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: But Projections are saying that that version is not one

710
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: that they are certainly excited about.

711
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would say that Strider is a

712
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: difficult case. Right now, I have him as I have

713
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 3: him higher than ESR. Don't feel great about it, you know,

714
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: specific with the velocity. But if the velocity continues to

715
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: tick up deeper in the spring training, I think I'll

716
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 3: keep him there. If it doesn't move up, then I

717
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: think I'm probably gonna start dipping him back down a

718
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: little bit. What do you have to say about stru.

719
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: Well, gentlemen, you clearly did not see that. As we're

720
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: recording the Spencer Strider through today, and his velocity was

721
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: up today. It was the first start, it was ninety three.

722
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: He's ramping up. He averaged ninety five and he touched

723
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: seven in his fastball shapes. A lot of the model

724
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 2: guys are out there, a lot of our models out there.

725
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: They're showing their blue steel and they're also showing their

726
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: fastball models are liking the shape that's going on. I

727
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: think there's still some stuff that's missing, but what's starting

728
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: to happen, and you're gonna have to play this game.

729
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to figure out here is is this

730
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: a true ramp up? Because because here's what you had.

731
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: You have the first start, which was like blah, everyone's

732
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: freaking out. Nick comes on here, he's seventy eight pictures

733
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. Then the next start, which is today, happens,

734
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, he's sitting ninety five, touching ninety seven.

735
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 2: So then the Strider truthers are out there. Everybody is wrong,

736
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: and then people are like but you're really gonna buy this,

737
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: So this is the discoord problem.

738
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: Is that the market will shift with him.

739
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: Well, it will, but also everybody's fighting their own angles

740
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,239
Speaker 2: right now. So do you believe that this is a

741
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: ramp up process for Strider? Because the biggest argument against

742
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: him from everybody, for me, no to Nick across the

743
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: board has been that he's the guy whose stuff did

744
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: not return off of Tommy John. So if what we

745
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: got today's version ninety five HiT's ninety seven with decent shape,

746
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: is that going to work for everybody that's still not

747
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: quite where he's at? Or is he ramping up? My

748
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: deal always with Spencer Strider has been that like like

749
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: just elite, Like he's a two pitch, absolutely elite monster.

750
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: And if he does lose that velo, if he loses

751
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: significant velocity on the fastball a mile down per per

752
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: hour from last season, it's going to be really tough

753
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: for him to get those big whiff numbers because that

754
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: fastball set up the slider, which was a fifty eight

755
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: percent with pitch, and then he would drop a curveball.

756
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: And this is twenty twenty four who had a sixty

757
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: percent with pitch. He needs a fastball to be able

758
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: to make that slider and occasional curveball look good. Well,

759
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: now it's starting to regain some value and he's at

760
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: an all time low. All the great pitching minds are

761
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 2: trashing him across the board, yet his stuff is coming back.

762
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm a little bit wishy washy on like

763
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: where I feel about him. Like I respect what guys,

764
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: specifically Ino and Nick have to say about a guy

765
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 2: like Spencer Strider. I think Nick went on the extreme

766
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: calling him a.

767
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: Not pitch you. Other thing we didn't discuss in that

768
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: conversation Welsh that I wish we had, And after I

769
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: went back and I watched part of that show because

770
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: it got great feedback on that show because of that debate.

771
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: But the thing was, you know, this was the internal

772
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: brace surgery, and we don't have nearly as much data

773
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: on those guys recovering how long it takes to get

774
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: VLO back as opposed to the regular world Tommy John.

775
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: So I think some of that data that we uep

776
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: using about Tommy John is not nexturally the same thing

777
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: when we're talking about the internal brace.

778
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: And what's going to happen to people if the next start,

779
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: he's sitting ninety six. What if this is a true

780
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: ramp up, and then the argument is gone that hey,

781
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: your stuff doesn't come back. It came back. You know

782
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: he can different last year. I would argue not to

783
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: keep a laboring this, but I would argue that the

784
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: projections of ATC based on the discourse of what the

785
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: big pitching minds are saying. This is a plus from

786
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: the elite spencer strider that we know just under four

787
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: era decent walks, but not a ton of innings. Like

788
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of mediocre. I do think these

789
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: projection I think these projections are creating a nice floor

790
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 2: right now. I am going to patiently wait to see

791
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: what these next starts look like and see if he

792
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: adds again. Was this sitting ninety five? Was that eighty

793
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: to eighty five percent? And if he goes one hundred,

794
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: do we see it coming back. I think there's a

795
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: possibility that projections could be wrong on him because he's

796
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: an elite pitcher. But there's a lot of worried people.

797
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: But those worried people didn't have this most recent start.

798
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: Spring just screws a lot of this stuff up, guys.

799
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: But I will say his ADP on sites does not

800
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: match up to the discourse and the projection. So from

801
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: that perspective, when he's going like top twenty three or

802
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 2: twenty four, that's probably not the best thing because there's

803
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: a lot of it here. You want to talk about

804
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: inherent risk talking about Jacob Mizerowski. Miserowski is probably a

805
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: safer option than Spencer Strider right now unless he keeps

806
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: going and developing into the right direction.

807
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 1: Sandy al Contra another one too that obviously last year

808
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: was a rough return from his surgery as well, but

809
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: eventually things did start to look a little bit better.

810
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: But projections are not saying he's going to be all

811
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: the way back this year. They're suggesting a ten to

812
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: eleven record, which again obviously he pitches for Themorrow, I'm sure,

813
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: but a four to sixteen era in twenty eight starts,

814
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy six innings, one hundred and forty

815
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: eight strikeouts, fifty one walks Welsh that's not vintage Sandy

816
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: al Contra, So are you buying these projections or are

817
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: you buying that there's upside of him returning to form

818
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: as well? Considering the sample size he got towards the

819
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty five.

820
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: You know what, this one kind of reminds me. This one,

821
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: like Pseudo reminds me of your Azzi Albi's one, where

822
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: like when I the innings projected kind of stood out

823
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 2: to me as like, whoa, if you get a full

824
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: season of Sandy, Sandy doesn't pitch one hundred and seventy innings,

825
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: Sandy pitches two hundred and twenty yeap, he hasn't. He

826
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: hasn't done that. He hasn't done that. In two years,

827
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 2: he's hit one hundred and seventy and one hundred and eighty.

828
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: Sandy up until twenty twenty two, never like I mean,

829
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: outside of his rookie year, never had a four ERA. Well,

830
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 2: the last two seasons it's been four and then five

831
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 2: and a half. And there's that injury that was mixed

832
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: in there by the way in twenty twenty four, So

833
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: like this is a weird mixture. This is almost like

834
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: it doesn't quite know who this guy is going to be.

835
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 2: It's low K's the walks, I guess are still okay,

836
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: but the era is kind of inflated at four one six.

837
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: I just think we're a year out off of that

838
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: injury hit a full season behind him. We also, I

839
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: just have to throw this out there. We always have

840
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: the looming trade possibilities where Sandy goes to an incredible

841
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: team that I think when I get those really low

842
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: atc innings projections and I see an over four ERA

843
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: and I see him not even getting thirty starts, that's

844
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 2: where the projection really jumped out to me. I kind

845
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: of think when we just talked about two really just

846
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: like wildly volatile, high upside pitchers, Sandy is a floor pitcher.

847
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 2: To me, you could argue that if he's an over

848
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: four ERA two hundred innings of that could maybe hurt

849
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: your team a little bit. But I really think Sandy's

850
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: one of those guys where it's like quality quality start draft.

851
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know, give me Sandy. He's gonna

852
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,479
Speaker 2: go six. They've got a really good closer there in there.

853
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy into Sandy regardless of the projections. I

854
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: think this is a year for a bounce back. But

855
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: you know, I might be self projecting because it's like

856
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 2: this just all seems so low to like vintage Sandy

857
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: well Boggs.

858
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still pretty cheap in terms of cost

859
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: and ADPs. The one hundred and sixty second picture going

860
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 1: overall again, Rasmussen's around there, Robbie Ray, abub A Chandler.

861
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: I mean, only one of those guys as young and

862
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: it's Sandy.

863
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I add the second half for Sandy was outstanding,

864
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 3: right Uh. He got rocked in the first half where

865
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: his ERA was seven to two. His era second half

866
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: was three three three. So it's not just recovering and

867
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: getting back to the innings, but it's also looking good

868
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: in the second half and being kind of that vintage Sandy.

869
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: So uh and almost.

870
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: In the second rate did win it young and twenty one? Didn't? He? Right?

871
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy he did?

872
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: He I don't remember, don't I don't. I don't worry

873
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: myself with Robbie Ray.

874
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: So he did. He won the young antio. So I

875
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: apologized all the the two Robbie Ray fans out there.

876
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Go ahead.

877
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: Everyone that's a fan of type pants is upset right now.

878
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 1: But who doesn't like type pants? I'm wearing them right now.

879
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 3: Sandy alc uh with the impressive second half and just

880
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 3: getting back up to full steam and the possibility for

881
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 3: a trade all make him positive for me. So I'm

882
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm more bullish than projections are on Sandy.

883
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: Oh.

884
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: I want to just add to Bogman's really great point.

885
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: Eight his last eight games, all six innings are higher.

886
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: I believe seven of those eight were quality starts, and

887
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: what was it, nine of his last ten games he

888
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 2: went six or more. I mean, like the second half

889
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: is really important thing that I didn't mention on Sandy,

890
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: and he really balled out, similar to kind of like

891
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: my Zach Gallen love. He balled out at the end

892
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: of the year.

893
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: Bobwan, would you rather have Trevor Rodgers is going right

894
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: before Sandy?

895
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 3: No, I'd rather that with Sandy.

896
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough. Rogers was so good last year. It

897
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: was good. I think I would take Rogers Welsh. What

898
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: would you do?

899
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 2: I'm really really torn on that one. Again. I think

900
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 2: Sandy is a guy that is like my floor play.

901
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: I think there's a decent amount of upside. I mean

902
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 2: almost twenty five k percentage with really low walks three

903
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: and a half. I would probably go Trevor Rodgers, But

904
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: to be frank, I don't think I've ever drafted Trevor

905
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: Rodgers in a mock draft.

906
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: All right, we got two pitchers left to go. You

907
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: know one thing I want to throw out there too,

908
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: because I didn't mention during the Miserowski conversation, the average

909
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: fastball Miserowski last year in ninety nine point three was

910
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: an hour. If there's one guy you could circle as

911
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: the biggest Tommy John candidate this year and twenty twenty

912
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: six for me, is Jacob Mizerowski. And that's another reason

913
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: why I have a hard time drafting if the ATC

914
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: projections on innings are low, is because at some point

915
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: he goes oops and he walks off the mound holding

916
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: his arm.

917
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 2: Do you remember there was all that discourse. I want

918
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: to say, maybe eno was a part of it where

919
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: they did that sheet of like here the guys that threw,

920
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 2: you know that have touched a hundred and had Tommy John,

921
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: and Hunter Green was like highlighted as one of those players.

922
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,479
Speaker 2: And then let's fast forward and we look at Hunter

923
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: Green as being like MRIs and you know, they're they're

924
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 2: worried about his arm and he was having fatigued last year.

925
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: And then you put that to exactly what you're saying.

926
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: You look at a guy like jackib Mizerowski, who consistently

927
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: is throwing one hundred plus just gives you a little

928
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: bit of a pause, like I don't like to do that,

929
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: but a lot of pause. Oh yeah, but I like

930
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: to do that game like where it's like, well, this

931
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: guy's gonna have tomm John and blah blah blah.

932
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 5: But it's just like and one thing is, I'd rather

933
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 5: have a guy who is a year removed from Tommy John,

934
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 5: like Strider al contra, then I would be taking a

935
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 5: chance on a guy who hasn't had it yet that

936
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 5: I think is a prime candidate.

937
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: That's just where I am, and I.

938
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: Turned Strider creates a really interesting debate with that because

939
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: how you know, sure everybody is right now with him,

940
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: but I get your point. I know what you're saying.

941
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: Well, the point is on past the worst, like you know,

942
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: hopeful that like we're on the upswing here after you know,

943
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: two years remove, all right, two guys here left. Kate Horton,

944
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: who I know, Lance Brodowski loves this year and that's

945
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to talk to him on Fantasy Fest

946
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: about this because the projections don't they have a nine

947
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: to seven record, a three nine one twenty three games,

948
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty seven innings. That's a very low

949
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: mark there an inning, so I don't know if they're

950
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: projecting injury for him or what. One hundred and ten strikeouts,

951
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: forty walks, bogs. This is a tricky one here because

952
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: Horton's not a big strikeout artist, so I get that,

953
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: but they're also not showing any sort of development at

954
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: the big league level either for Kate Horton. Where things

955
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 1: are getting better, it seems like things would get worse

956
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: and the league is adjusting to him from these projections.

957
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 3: I mean, we say that, but this is another guy

958
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: just like Sandy, and I think I'm too low on

959
00:42:55,239 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 3: Kate Horton based on this alone. But another guy or

960
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: four or five R in the first half one oh

961
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: three R in the second half. So a big improvement

962
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: for a young pitcher in the second half is a

963
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: nice needle mover. And I think I've kind of slept

964
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 3: on Kate Horton a little bit. I've kind of just

965
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: been more in line. I think I'm even lower than

966
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 3: u ECR on him. So I think this is a

967
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 3: guy I need to adjust for sure because of this

968
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: big second half. And like you said, maybe he doesn't

969
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: have the sexiness of some of the other young pitchers,

970
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: but this guy already has big league experience, is supposed

971
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 3: to be in the rotation the whole year. I mean,

972
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: I'm I'm looking a little more Pollyanna the harder I

973
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: look at Kate Horton.

974
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: Here, Welsh, you were a Kate Horton guy last year.

975
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: But these projections certainly are enough to I think shake

976
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: any Kate Horton guy off Kate Orton for twenty twenty six.

977
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lance had a really interesting video too, where he

978
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: was kind of talking about how he felt like, you know,

979
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: cade knew he was on this cap and he was

980
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: just kind of like going all out in his starts

981
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: and how that you know, that might adjust some of

982
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: like how he ends up. It's go and listen to

983
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: it because I don't want to give it all away,

984
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: and obviously I'm not even doing a good job of

985
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: like describing it. But how he was saying that, like

986
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: because he knew of these caps, it was a very

987
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: specific way he was going into his approach. But I

988
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: think a lot of people are focused on being like, Okay,

989
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: that's all fine. But he had a twenty percent k percentage,

990
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: like how is he going to survive? But that I

991
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: also like kind of float around and be like, oh,

992
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: was Brian Wu. Brian Wu was one of those guys.

993
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: It was really low walks, didn't have strikeouts. Did he

994
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: start to make that adjustment? Kate Horton out of almost

995
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: fifty percent with rate on his change up last year,

996
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: his sweeper was really good. Both of those pitches had

997
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: sub two hundred batting averages against and August first on,

998
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: you guys want to take a guess at how many

999
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: runs he gave up across I believe eight starts, many seven.

1000
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: He gave up seven earned runs on all of those starts.

1001
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. He had four in August and he gave

1002
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: up three in the final month, and I think that's

1003
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: actually that was like nine starts he had, so I mean,

1004
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: he was absolutely dominant. He's got great stuff. Pitching minds

1005
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: like him. I like the pitch mix. But he's been

1006
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: a very very popular, like negative guy, like he's gonna

1007
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: bust this year. And I think some of that comes

1008
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 2: from the projections where it's like, look, you know barely

1009
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: a four era. The innings probably really throw you off too,

1010
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 2: like one hundred and twenty something innings. That's all that

1011
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna get audicad this, I don't think that's a possibility.

1012
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 2: I mean went one hundred and eighteen. Yeah, it's very

1013
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 2: very low.

1014
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: Last guy is another one too, who like if he

1015
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: doesn't perform well, that spot in the rotation at the

1016
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: end for the red soxes is open there. Ovi Ato

1017
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: might be in there. It could be a little Connerly Early,

1018
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: who I love well, Brian Beyo, who we're gonna talk

1019
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: about here. Rejections say ten and eight to four to

1020
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: two four ERA twenty seven games, one hundred and fifty

1021
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: four innings, just one hundred and twenty three strikeouts, just

1022
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: fifty three walks. It's not exactly dominant stuff Welsh that

1023
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: is just blah and Connerly Early is a really tough

1024
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: young lefty and I can understand wanting him to get

1025
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: a little time in Triple A again and just you know,

1026
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: let him slow cook. But to me, like Brian Beayo

1027
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: is definitely a guy that if he doesn't pitch well

1028
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: in the first half of the year, his spot is

1029
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: definitely in danger.

1030
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: I know. I mean, it is like a ticking time bomb,

1031
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 2: like Conley early looks phenomenal. Peyton totally looks great.

1032
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: You got totally too, That's right. I apologize I forgot

1033
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: about him too.

1034
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 5: Well.

1035
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: He just got these two great pictures that are floating

1036
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: out there. And this is comparing against Brian Bay who

1037
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: had a seventeen percent K percentage like that. Just I know,

1038
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: like strikeouts aren't everything. There's something if you do his

1039
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: K minus walk percentage, which is a pop which is

1040
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: a number you should pay attention to, it's like nine

1041
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: percent because he walked eight percent, he only struck out

1042
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: seventeen percent, and that kind of equates to also some

1043
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 2: of the projections. I mean, he had a three three era,

1044
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: but an expected three four eight. That's not Again, those

1045
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 2: are not good numbers. Those are not sustainable out there,

1046
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 2: but he just kind of got away with some stuff.

1047
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean from a from a projection standpoint,

1048
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: I think it does make sense because the expected era,

1049
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: you know, some of what I mentioned, like the really

1050
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: really low strikeouts, the way his barrel rate was up,

1051
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: the hard hitting that like some of that guys were

1052
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: also being able to launch the ball on him. That

1053
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: if he's going to be giving up homers and he's

1054
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: gonna be walking guys. He's not gonna be able to

1055
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 2: stay in the rotation, and the projections are kind of

1056
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 2: putting all this together. A seven k per nine, three

1057
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: walk per nine with a four ERA, it's not gonna last,

1058
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: especially when you have elite guys. So this is like

1059
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: the lowest totem of this entire list. But this actually

1060
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: might now they think about it, because you set the

1061
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: s up show. All of this talk is to just

1062
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: be like, hey, make sure you've got a little pin

1063
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: or a star or whatever the hell you do in

1064
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: your league on Conlee early, so you make sure you

1065
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 2: can maybe get ahead of him by a week. Watch

1066
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 2: Brian BeOS starts for when you should pick up Conlee early?

1067
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Speaker 1: How about you, Bogs? Where are you out with this

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Speaker 1: whole conversation of Red Sox pitchers?

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Speaker 3: I mean, does BeO even make it to the season

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Speaker 3: as a starter, because right he's got crushed and his

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Speaker 3: two spring starts so far so three point one innings

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Speaker 3: pitch twenty four and a half ERA and as Welsh mentioned,

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Speaker 3: four three eight x four to three nine x fit

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Speaker 3: four five five Sierra like he got lucky last year

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Speaker 3: a lot and it really seems if you look at

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Speaker 3: just the splits month by month, he hit a wall

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Speaker 3: because he got crushed in August in September, and he

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Speaker 3: was pretty good leading into that at ERA every month

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Speaker 3: no higher than four oh three and a lot of

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Speaker 3: twos in here. I mean from June to August. His

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Speaker 3: ERA was under three that entire time. But he just

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Speaker 3: got smashed in September and October with a five to

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Speaker 3: four to zero ERA. So he's, you know, he's not

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Speaker 3: striking out enough guys, he doesn't make enough guys with

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Speaker 3: he doesn't induce bad contact enough. I think he's gonna

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Speaker 3: get smashed and lose that spot. So I'm just not

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Speaker 3: going to be in all bao this year.

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Speaker 2: Ninety seven stuff plus overall, and of all five pitches,

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Speaker 2: only one of them is above one hundred for your

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Speaker 2: median line there. So Brian Beo's got a lot of

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Speaker 2: work to do. I think it's a sinker by the way.

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Speaker 2: That's not great.

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Speaker 3: He's he's a throw in on a trade where someone

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Speaker 3: that had a team that has really bad pitching could

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Speaker 3: use him and maybe develop him. But I think I

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Speaker 3: think the Red Sox are gonna move on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, I know how a good start the other day?

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Speaker 1: Connelly Early. So far in spring he's got four innings,

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Speaker 1: four starkouts, one walk to earn. So he's looked much better,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. You can put that in the books.

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Speaker 1: I like his approach to a big early guy. So

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