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Speaker 1: and everyone who's covering it of a horrific school shooting

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Speaker 1: of those affected. UM I want to walk through with

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Speaker 1: difficult to do. And in this and and and then

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Speaker 1: you also get into, uh, you want to talk about

433
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Speaker 1: maligning a group that you know is overwhelmingly non violent

434
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Speaker 1: and people with mental health issue is like a depending

435
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: on how you how you look at it, it's a

436
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: quarter or a third of the country have a clinical medical,

437
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: clinical medically diagnosable mental health issue of one kind or another. Right,

438
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: I mean this, you know, mental health is like is

439
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: like physical health. It spans a huge gamut, and so

440
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: to talk about it as though mental health issues, it's

441
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: it's insufficient. Not only are our solutions or proposed solutions

442
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: to this problem insufficient, our language for discussing it isn't enough,

443
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: and it just creates a frustration. A lot of the

444
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: things we talked about here on the show. I feel like,

445
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, if if if we took if the government

446
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: took the or in some cases we as individuals a

447
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: citizens took the appropriate steps, we could make a real

448
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: difference and and make things better. I don't know what

449
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: that is here, and I wish I did. And it'll

450
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: be disheartening to see so many, especially people with large

451
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: platforms and followings and politicians and people who have a

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Speaker 1: responsibility the public discourse to be better than this. It'll

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Speaker 1: be disheartening that they're gonna say that, Oh, you know,

454
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Speaker 1: anybody who doesn't immediately want some kind of a gun

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Speaker 1: band or you know that there a a coward and

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00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 1: they they're bought off by the n r A. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the the level of a vitriol and nastiness that is

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00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: displayed after all these events against people who have nothing

459
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: to do with the event. They're just not in favor

460
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: of policies that wouldn't that would not have prevented it,

461
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: and would infringe upon rights and freedoms. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: that's unfortunately become a part of the rhythm of all this.

463
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Speaker 1: So UM, I appreciate that all of you we got,

464
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Speaker 1: we got every line lit and I want to hear

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Speaker 1: from you, so thank you very much for that. And

466
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Speaker 1: as we take calls, just know that we'll be opening

467
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Speaker 1: up spots for you to call in eight four, four

468
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Speaker 1: to five. Let's let's take some of your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 1: Herb in New Jersey, Herb, thank you very much for

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Speaker 1: calling in good, good evening. Buck. Um, you know it's

471
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Speaker 1: it's uh tough circumstances, my friend, I know, yeah, but um,

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00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, let's um let's take a concept from your

473
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Speaker 1: motto shields high. Um. You know, the shield doesn't work

474
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: unless it's held properly. And uh, I'm all for this

475
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: concept that um UM based on in Local Apprentice. The

476
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: same way you would want to protect your family, your

477
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: children at home, UM, you would, you would expect that

478
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: they would have the same protection when they're at school.

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00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: So why not take a select group of volunteers, administrators, UH,

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00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: support staff, and teachers, UH, screen them, train them in

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Speaker 1: the proper and effective use of firearms and other defensive techniques,

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00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: and turn them into a school based active shooter response team,

483
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: just like you do a q RT in the police.

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Speaker 1: Well you know her, but I well, one of the

485
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Speaker 1: one of the facts that comes to mind right away

486
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Speaker 1: about this particular shooting that's different from some other instances

487
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: is that they're there are as far as I understand it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll get more information. There are armed personnel

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Speaker 1: on the campus. So are there enough? You can have

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Speaker 1: two or three, but on a campus that big and

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Speaker 1: that far reaching, are they really enough? Well? That's that

492
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Speaker 1: was exactly the point. That's why I said, I don't

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Speaker 1: know the full square footage, but I mean, we've been

494
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Speaker 1: doing more research here to figure out what we're dealing

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Speaker 1: with them. When you're talking about multiple buildings and three

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Speaker 1: thousand students. I mean, you know, that's that's a huge

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Speaker 1: that's that's a that's like a college campus. That's a

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Speaker 1: college size campus. And so shooting, and assuming that this

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Speaker 1: occurred mostly in one building and then outside and on

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Speaker 1: the street, if you weren't in that building and nearby

501
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: at the time of the shooting, now you're just talking about, um,

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00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: I think you'd have to agree her mitigating casualties, you're

503
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: certainly not able to stop all casualties. Well, of course,

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00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,719
Speaker 1: that's it's always gonna be the case. Look, the shooter

505
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: is always going to get the first shot off. I mean,

506
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: it's just the nature of the beast. Uh. The question

507
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: then becomes just how far do you allow it to continue?

508
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: And if there's no shields to stop it, then it's

509
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Speaker 1: going to continue un mercilessly until shields do arrive. Look,

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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree with you. I mean, and I

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Speaker 1: think that I think the shields that are hidden, if

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Speaker 1: we're gonna continue with the metaphor here, are oftentimes even

513
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: more effective because that just puts the shooter in a

514
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: very different you know, the bad guy here in a

515
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: very different mindset to not know you know, you know,

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00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: it's it's one thing. If the guy wearing the uniform

517
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Speaker 1: and walking around with a with a glock on his hip,

518
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Speaker 1: you know that if you you know that guy is

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Speaker 1: not around, well then you know you're probably the clear

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Speaker 1: because I'm assuming the school is a gun free zone, right,

521
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Speaker 1: But if you know Mr Mr Smith across the hallway

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Speaker 1: who teaches geometry actually has got a you know, a

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Speaker 1: three eight auto on them or something, I mean, you've

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Speaker 1: actually you've got something you can work with. Absolutely, And

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Speaker 1: if it's made very clear that this school is protected

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Speaker 1: by an active shooter response team, I think there would

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Speaker 1: be a lot fewer attempts made because shooters are by

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Speaker 1: definition towards Yeah, I look at that may. You know,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk solutions as much as possible, and

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Speaker 1: that's the only thing that I can think of that

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Speaker 1: would that would help in these situations. Herb that that's

532
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: a that's an actual policy that could be implemented, right,

533
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Speaker 1: an entire gun band and thank you for calling it

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Speaker 1: her from New Jersey. Um. And you know, and an

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Speaker 1: all out ban is just not it's just not feasible.

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00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. Um, even if the government try.

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00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: First of all, the government tried to make it happen.

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Speaker 1: The CONSEQT with the ramifications of that alone would be frightening,

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Speaker 1: as I think everyone knows, um and short of an

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Speaker 1: all out band, you know, stopping. We don't even know

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Speaker 1: what this guy used yet, and there's people already who

542
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: are out there, and we're gonna you know that the

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00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: politics of this is what we'll talk about more in

544
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: the second hour of the show. I just want to

545
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: get on the details. And as I mentioned before, seventeen

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Speaker 1: dead in this Florida school shooting and dozens it appears

547
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Speaker 1: dozens wounded. We don't know the full number just yet.

548
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Speaker 1: UM at least fourteen taken two hospitals in the area.

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Speaker 1: Two died at the hospital, so we we could lose more.

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Speaker 1: We don't know. The shooter is in custody. The shooter

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Speaker 1: has been identified as Nicholas Cruz, nineteen years old, expelled

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Speaker 1: from the Douglas High School here down in Florida, in

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Speaker 1: Broward County, and you know, has a social media profile

554
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: of somebody who who is disturbed. That's that's clear, he's disturbed.

555
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: They knew this guy was bad news. What do you do?

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Speaker 1: Eight four to five, We're gonna continue our discussion of this. Folks,

557
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Speaker 1: thank you for being here with me. I'll be right back.

558
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Speaker 1: We're still covering breaking events here in the aftermath of

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Speaker 1: a shooting at a school, the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High

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00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: School in Broward County in Florida. Seventeen killed, more wounded. UM,

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Speaker 1: the sheriff is now I'm now seeing Oh gosh, I'm

562
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: not saying this alert right now? Do you see this? Uh?

563
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: Suspect had an a R fifteen and multiple magazines. So

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Speaker 1: we have a process in place that gets initiated, so

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Speaker 1: there's calm, collected care that our patients received. Can you

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Speaker 1: tell us anything about the fatalities at least their ages?

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00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: Do they do you believe their students, possibly people that

568
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: were working at the school. We prefer not to comment

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Speaker 1: on our patients and respect for our patients. Should we

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00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: talk about just personally, I mean, seeing the sort of

571
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: thing knowing that they I mean just as human beings

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00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: outside to these doctors, you know, treating these people who

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00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: have come in here after experiencing what it's not the

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00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: worst event of their lives, and you know, having the

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Speaker 1: responsibility of treating these people and you know, ensuring the

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00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: best outcome that they can have. I mean, how does

577
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: that affect you all? Um, just as human needs. Well,

578
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: we will do this every day. So what we saw

579
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: today we have penetrating triala not penetrative troublem level to

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Speaker 1: trauma center and that's what we're doing every day. And

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00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: so fortunately for everybody, we were located very close to

582
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Speaker 1: the high school where this shooting happened. So unfortunately for everybody,

583
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: they brought the statis to our hospital and we were

584
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: able to do a great job to to do the

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00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: right thing. You um, the suspect was brought here. I

586
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: know you can't say much about some of the trauma

587
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: surgence of the jus there's a medical condition or whatever.

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00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: But for for a lot of people at home, you know,

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00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 1: they might be surprised that the suspect was being brought

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00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: he how do you guys kick in the epocratic oaths

591
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: and do your job and knowing witness guy's intentionally is

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00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: accused of Every patient that comes in gets treated as

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00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,479
Speaker 1: a patient and we take care of them medically, and

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Speaker 1: that's what we do. Was there any particular reason why

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00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: he was brought to this facility versus one of your

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00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: other facilities in the hospital system because of the occasionally

597
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: they have to go to the nearest probal facility and

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00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: we were the nearest Caber facility. Is this the biggest

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00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: mash of passion for you can remember Quota hospital? Yes,

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Speaker 1: and you're expecting worn victims. We cannot combient you can?

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us if it was a large caliber

602
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: small caliber? I mean if you elaborate on a cotton

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Speaker 1: l do you know the update on conditions for what

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00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: the other hospitals the patients are right now? But the

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00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: six pas we've got our stroll here whatever, uh you know,

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Speaker 1: are any And I'm still in surgery that decurgeries go

607
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: on after the inter we still have three patios and

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Speaker 1: the operatings over it all there in the industries under

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Speaker 1: some kind of surgery can describe what those assumes are,

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00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: I guess not as serious and being supports. Their demeanor

611
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: was like I mean, I know it's obvious to describe

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Speaker 1: it for us. Well, I mean, I prefer not to

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Speaker 1: comment on a specific patients demeanor, but you know, as

614
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: a human being, you could imagine um that they would

615
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: uh huh be being shocked or you know, be emotional

616
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: about the whole situation. You describe you think that coming

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Speaker 1: in partiament. I think they've asked the doctors all that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean the press questions that are

619
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Speaker 1: not able to the doctors are not able to Can

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00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: you walk through what's the next for these patients, specifically

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Speaker 1: the three and critical food stable in their in terms

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Speaker 1: of services iderstand chaplains are now here? Are you gotta

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Speaker 1: have successful argers, They're gonna re covery, They're gonna go home,

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00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: Thanks very much. Alright, So we had a press conference

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00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: there with some of the trauma experts at a nearby hospital,

626
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: and as you heard one of the doctors say, lucky

627
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: that was so close to the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School.

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00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: Because you know, seconds count in in trauma situations like this,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into um, so we're gonna continue to

630
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: cover this coming up for the next hours and say

631
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into more of this. He's back with

632
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: you now, because when it comes to the fight for truth,

633
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 1: the fuck never stops. There was set to say that

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00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: seventeen people lost their lives. Uh, the twelve people within

635
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: the building, yeah, uh, two people just outside the building,

636
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: one person out on Pine Island Road. And two people

637
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: lost their lives in the hospital. There are people that

638
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: are still undergoing surgery. And just pray for this city,

639
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 1: Pray for this school, the parents, the folks that lost

640
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: their lives. It's a horrific, horrific day. That's a sheriff

641
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: down in Broward County giving us a sense of just

642
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: what what happened today? What what this mass shooting with

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Speaker 1: the death count is so far, it is a UM,

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Speaker 1: it's a tough day for the country, really bad day

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Speaker 1: for the state of Florida, and a tragic and life

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Speaker 1: altering one for the families of those families of those

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Speaker 1: killed and the families of the wounded as well. UM.

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Speaker 1: Just to give you a sense of where this stands

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Speaker 1: in terms of US school shootings. In the Columbine shooting,

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Speaker 1: thirteen were killed. I believe that includes the two the

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Speaker 1: two shooters in that number, although I'm not sure. Today

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Speaker 1: in Florida, in Parkland, you have seventeen dead so far,

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Speaker 1: and you had eighteen killed back in nineteen sixty six

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Speaker 1: at the University of Texas. Twenty seven were killed at

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Speaker 1: the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre. In twenty twelve, and

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, in Virginia Tech, you had

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Speaker 1: thirty thirty two killed. Columbine was thirteen. Thank you, a

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Speaker 1: producer might just made sure that my stats were correct.

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Speaker 1: Column was thirteen not including the shooters. Thirty uh two

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Speaker 1: students one teacher. Twelve students, one teacher is what we

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Speaker 1: have in in Columbine. Yeah, so the deadliest ever was

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Speaker 1: Virginia Tech in two thousand and seven. So far, um,

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Speaker 1: this is this is a tough day for the country,

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately it's already very much being politicized, which this

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Speaker 1: follows an all too familiar script. We understand what happens now,

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Speaker 1: you will have some sense of universal sympathy and outpouring

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Speaker 1: of support from the American people for those in the

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Speaker 1: in the Browered community and Brower County community, and and

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Speaker 1: then for the folks who were directly affected by this.

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Speaker 1: But then this will turn into a political fight and

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Speaker 1: and it just and it gets into a really nasty

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Speaker 1: one too, because on the one side of it you

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Speaker 1: tend to have individuals who seem to believe that those

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Speaker 1: on the other side don't really want to address the

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Speaker 1: problem or don't want to make this go away. There

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Speaker 1: no such thing as a as a constituency that exists

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Speaker 1: this country that does not want to end school shootings,

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Speaker 1: and we are all on the same page when it

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Speaker 1: comes to that. It's just a question of what's feasible

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Speaker 1: to do in response, and also what the costs would

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Speaker 1: be and whether it would be effective. So can we

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Speaker 1: do it, should we do it? What's the cost of

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Speaker 1: doing it? Those are the questions when you want to

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Speaker 1: look at trying to address something like this was very,

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Speaker 1: very difficult to do. You had Senator Chris Murphy of

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Speaker 1: Connecticut who was pushing for gun control immediately after, I

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Speaker 1: mean with with within within hours. I mean it was

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Speaker 1: right away. It might have even sooner than that, within minutes,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, within minutes of the shooting, senator from Connecticut's

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Speaker 1: pushing gun control. Turn on your television right now. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna see scenes of children running for their lives. This

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Speaker 1: happens nowhere else other than the United States of America,

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Speaker 1: this epidemic of mass slaughter. We are responsible for a

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Speaker 1: level of mass atrocity that happens in this country with

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Speaker 1: zero parallel anywhere else. Uh, it's wrong that this doesn't

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Speaker 1: happen anywhere else. It actually has happened, and including in

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Speaker 1: very developed, in otherwise safe European countries. There have been

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Speaker 1: mass school shootings. There was a very well known school

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Speaker 1: shooting in Scottland. This is just off the top of

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Speaker 1: my head. I'm not I haven't even pulled the research

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Speaker 1: on this yet. We had there was one in Scotland.

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Speaker 1: There was one in Germany. I think even I was

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Speaker 1: thinking was a preschool um. There was the Anders Brave

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Speaker 1: Vick shooting in Norway that was at a camp but

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Speaker 1: just mass slaughter of young people at a camp um.

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Speaker 1: So this does happen elsewhere. Now that that, I just

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Speaker 1: don't know why. If we're gonna have a discussion about it,

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Speaker 1: and you're a United States senator, you're supposed to know

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about. I don't know why they have

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Speaker 1: to make stuff up. I don't know why it's okay

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Speaker 1: to fabricate things as part of this discussion. But they'll

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Speaker 1: say it is that they will get past the facts

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Speaker 1: right away. They're in They're in a post fact debate

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Speaker 1: pattern here that they're emotionalizing the moment, using this as

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Speaker 1: a means of trying to advance a an agenda of

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Speaker 1: of gun control. Look, if I really believe that any

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Speaker 1: of the measures that are talked about after these school

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Speaker 1: shootings would would reliably and realistically stop school shootings. I

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Speaker 1: would be very open minded to it, if not outright

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Speaker 1: in favor of it, I just know it won't and

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Speaker 1: the facts, the statistics, and logic all back up my position.

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Speaker 1: And on the other side of it, this has become,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately a debate that really doesn't have all that much

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Speaker 1: to do with guns. And this is why you see

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Speaker 1: the nastiness that the progressive left in this country. The

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Speaker 1: Democrat Party opposes guns as on the one side, a

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Speaker 1: massive exercise in virtue signaling they're the good people who

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Speaker 1: don't who don't want any more violence to continue. And

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Speaker 1: also their opposition to guns and the Second Amendment as

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Speaker 1: a general proposition is really opposition to the kinds of

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Speaker 1: people who are legal, lawful, law abiding gun owners. They

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Speaker 1: have a disdain for those in this country who are

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Speaker 1: believers and supporters of and those who actually practice there

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Speaker 1: right to bear arms, engage in their right to bear arms.

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Speaker 1: So it's opposition to guns in the political context is

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Speaker 1: really opposition to gun owners. And that's why you have

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Speaker 1: idiot celebrities who will tweet things after an incident like this,

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Speaker 1: and I saw this one today. You know, the n

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Speaker 1: r A is a terrorist organization. The Interay has nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with this, and it's reckless and irresponsible to

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Speaker 1: say that they to to even bring it up in

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Speaker 1: the context of a shooting like this. Um, there are

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Speaker 1: some other gun control options that I'm sure they'll be

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Speaker 1: putting out there. Oh, they'll talk about background checks. I

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Speaker 1: need the background checks will certainly come up as well.

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Speaker 1: We all to say enough is enough. Uh. The question is,

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Speaker 1: once you get into the investigation, how did the shooter

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Speaker 1: obtain the weapon? Was it a high caliber weapon? Was

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Speaker 1: it obtained lawfully? And if so, that ought to have

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Speaker 1: people to start thinking about such things as background checks

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Speaker 1: on the purchase sub a gun and the question of

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Speaker 1: an assault rifle if in fact this is I don't

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Speaker 1: know those details. So there's a Senator Nelson of Florida

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Speaker 1: and he is saying things like is it a high

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Speaker 1: caliber weapon? I don't even know what he what he

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Speaker 1: thinks he's saying there, really, I guess, I mean, maybe

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Speaker 1: he's referring to whether it was a rifle versus a pistol.

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Speaker 1: But as you all know, because this is an audience

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Speaker 1: that is very familiar with firearms and and and weaponry.

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Speaker 1: Thirty eight will kill you the same way that you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: two to three will kill you, the same way that

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Speaker 1: a seven six two will kill you the same I

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Speaker 1: mean this is this is not really a relevant means

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Speaker 1: of trying to address the problem, but they'll bring it up.

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Speaker 1: They'll talk about it nonetheless. The notion of a background check. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so this nineteen year old who was expelled from school,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he bought his gun legally or not.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he stole his gun. So we

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Speaker 1: can't really address that question here. But we already do

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Speaker 1: have background checks in this country. There's a national Instant

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Speaker 1: background check system NICKS. It's called the NIX system is

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Speaker 1: in place. People will say it's not perfect, but it

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Speaker 1: works most of the time, and we have background checks,

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Speaker 1: so they want to do more background checks. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: appear to me to be the case that would do anything.

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Speaker 1: It's worth noting that in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting,

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Speaker 1: that shooter stole his gun from a family member, so

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Speaker 1: the background check there didn't really have any particular meeting

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Speaker 1: because it wasn't the gun wasn't bought, purchased, or owned

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Speaker 1: by the person who might have failed the background check.

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Speaker 1: So that's there. Yeah, I mean this. I'm waiting for

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Speaker 1: them to come up with something that is applicable here

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Speaker 1: that actually might have done something. Um, you had Jake

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Speaker 1: Tapper at CNN offering this up. You know, I'm old

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Speaker 1: enough to remember when images of twelve and fourteen year

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Speaker 1: olds walking out of schools with their arms in the

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Speaker 1: air because there's an active shooter situation didn't happen and

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Speaker 1: show up on my TV every week or two. What

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Speaker 1: do you say to the parents out there who are

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Speaker 1: frustrated and who say, Senator Nelson, we thank you for

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Speaker 1: your thoughts and prayers, but we actually need more than

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Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers. This is a crisis in this country,

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Speaker 1: crisis to be dealt with. How crisis that we can

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Speaker 1: respond to in what way? Um, that's what needs to

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Speaker 1: be answered here. We all understand it's a crisis. Well

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Speaker 1: understand it's terrible, it's tragic. I will be updating you

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Speaker 1: with the latest here right after this break. We we

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Speaker 1: know now that the sheriff has Ah has confirmed that

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Speaker 1: it was the shooter had an a R fifteen and

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Speaker 1: multiple magazines, and that's what was used in the shooting.

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Speaker 1: And we know that. Let's now well, well we'll look

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Speaker 1: at what else we can put together here. I'm very

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Speaker 1: curious to hear your thoughts. I welcome your thoughts. A

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Speaker 1: better way to put it on what happened today. I

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Speaker 1: don't have the answer. I don't know anybody who does,

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Speaker 1: but it's certainly something we have to talk about and

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Speaker 1: think about and reflect on. Eight four four nine hundred

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Speaker 1: two eight to five eight four four nine hundred buck.

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Speaker 1: We will be back right after this break. We had

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Speaker 1: countless magazines, are multiple magazines, and at this point we

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Speaker 1: believe we had one a R fifteen rifle. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he had a second Leacond. Right, So you

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Speaker 1: have the sheriff saying he had a lot of magazines

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Speaker 1: in our fifteen Air fifteen rifle on him. You can

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Speaker 1: you can bet that this will soon become a discussion

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Speaker 1: about a national assault rifle ban. Um, that's going to

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Speaker 1: I think that's going to be where the the press

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Speaker 1: takes this. I'm seeing on seeing lots of pictures of

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Speaker 1: the Air fifteen is you know, Air fifteen is a

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Speaker 1: very popular rifle. Millions of them are owned across the country. UM,

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Speaker 1: and now they're listing all the places where it was used.

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Speaker 1: Park Land today, the Southern Springs, Texas shooting, the Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas shooting, the Pulse Nightclub shooting, San Bernardino, Sandy Hook,

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Speaker 1: and Aurora, Colorado all used the a R fifteen. They

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Speaker 1: are building a case right now in real time for

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Speaker 1: an assault weapons ban. I know a lot of you

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Speaker 1: would probably call in or email me and tell me

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Speaker 1: an assault weapon is a made up term, I know,

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Speaker 1: but legally they have actually instituted assault weapons bands in

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Speaker 1: certain states as well as at the federal level previously,

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Speaker 1: and they describe it as and they go through the

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Speaker 1: characteristics as you know, of what it is. Some of

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Speaker 1: them are cosmetic, but it is now a legally describable category,

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Speaker 1: even if it's not really a firearm category. UM. But

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Speaker 1: that's where we are. Shane and bel Air, Ohio. Shane

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Speaker 1: is a school teacher. Hey, Shane, Hey, how's it going back?

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Speaker 1: It's all right, Mann, thank you for calling. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to weigh in on uh. I know. One

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Speaker 1: of the issues that we deal with in Bellaire, Ohio

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Speaker 1: is a fact of funding for resource officers that are

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Speaker 1: able to be in the buildings and the response time

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Speaker 1: of our local police to be able to get to

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Speaker 1: the schools. You know, one of the things I don't

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Speaker 1: know that you're ever going to completely stop the nut

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Speaker 1: jobs out there that are coming across and you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to take out soft targets. But the best thing

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Speaker 1: we can do is try to eliminate the response, you know,

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Speaker 1: minimize the response time. And I know that several of

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Speaker 1: the districts in southeastern Ohio have actually started arming their

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Speaker 1: teachers and even posting out in the front about their

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Speaker 1: teachers are armed, don't come into our school. What do

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Speaker 1: you as a as as a teacher yourself, what do

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Speaker 1: you think about that? Do you think teacher should be armed? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's I think that there are a hand I don't

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Speaker 1: think that every teacher is, you know, capable of handling

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Speaker 1: a firearm, but I think that there's a select few individuals,

857
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, that are out there that are willing to

858
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: take on that task to protect the students. I mean,

859
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: that's that's my job as a teacher, to try to

860
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: protect my students as best I can. Walking ourselves in

861
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: a room isn't exactly cutting it, you know, we're just

862
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: we're sitting ducks there, you know, to be able to

863
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: take a stance, to be able to defend our students

864
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: and eliminate the again, minimize the response time. Yeah, you know,

865
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: I aggreciate. I want to ask you though about because

866
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: you would I assume this is something you'd be somewhat

867
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: familiar with if you have a student who is I'm

868
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: just wondering what the procedures are. I'm sure they very

869
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: state to state. But if you have a student that

870
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: you think is really disturbed, you know, I mean, you

871
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: have a student that you think is you know, torturing

872
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: animals on the weekends and do it, you know, and

873
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: and posting videos that are are really making you think

874
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: he's violent, has violent attempt, but hasn't broken the law. Right, Well,

875
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously torturing animals, we're breaking law. But you

876
00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I mean, you've got somebody who,

877
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: as you think, is sick in the head and and

878
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: as a and as a danger, but hasn't yet actually

879
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: broken the law. As a teacher, what are your obligations

880
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: and what are your resources? What could you actually do well?

881
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: In our school district, we have, uh, several different things

882
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: in place to be able to attend to that situation. One,

883
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: we have a student Services that if we start to

884
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: recognize those things. I'm a mandated reporter in the state

885
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: of behind Us. So anything that I noticed in in

886
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: that type of situation, I have to report to my

887
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: superiors and also to you know, if it's a in

888
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: a result of a child protective situation, I have to

889
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: call the CPS and notify them. In the case that

890
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: you're describing, you know, obviously I would bring my concerns

891
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 1: to student services and see if the counselor down there

892
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: would be able to work through that. And obviously we

893
00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: would be discussing that in our building leadership teams talking

894
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: about you know, we need to keep an eye on

895
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: this kid, he's been acting this way, and you know,

896
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: identify those kids so that you know, we can keep

897
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: an eye on those types of things. So there's there's

898
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: reporting procedures in place, but you know what, what do

899
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: they do with it. Let let's say a high school

900
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: aged kid that everyone thinks is is a risk, but

901
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: can't be incarcerated because he hasn't broken the law. I'm

902
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: just one. I mean, it sounds to me like your

903
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: report they can know, but not much that they mean,

904
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: they can kick him out of the school. They kicked

905
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: this guy today who's the shooter, out of the school.

906
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: But then where does he go? Yeah, and that's a

907
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: very good situation. The exact thing actually has made national

908
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: news in our our little town of Belair. Uh a

909
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: gentleman by the name of Nathan Brooks back in I

910
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: believe you know, all the teachers saw warning signs. They

911
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: reported it. The kid was just off his rocker, and

912
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: he ended up going home and the potating one of

913
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: his parents and stabbing the other one multiple times. And

914
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: he's got a lifelong sentence. You know, what do you do?

915
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: You know, teachers knew that it was going to happen,

916
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: you know, and he was he was going to take

917
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: out several more students, but ended up turning himself in.

918
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: What do you do is in that situation, you know,

919
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: our hands are kind of tied. But Shane, can I

920
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: just ask you to teacher? I mean, you know, I

921
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever been around this yourself, but

922
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: you feel like you know, you know when you know

923
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: when a kid's a threat. I mean, you have a

924
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: pretty good sense of it. Yeah, there's there's definitely you know,

925
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: just things you know, if you pay attention to your

926
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: you know your surroundings and the people around you. You know,

927
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: just even when you go to a restaurant, you just

928
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: kind of know where to sit and who's acting funny.

929
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: As a teacher, you know that second nature you pick

930
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: up on those types of things, and that's you're burying

931
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: your head in the sand. You'd have to be an

932
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: idiot not to. Yeah, I mean I figured that. I

933
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: figured you have a good sense of who's you know,

934
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: who may be a problem, who's not um And look,

935
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure most of the kids you deal with the

936
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: really nice kids, but you know, I'm obviously there's there

937
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: are rare they're they're there are rare exceptions here and there,

938
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm sure you're attuned to that. Shane,

939
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: thank you for calling in and sharing a an educator's

940
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: point of view on this. I really appreciate it. Shields High. Uh,

941
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: we got more calls in on this one, and we'll

942
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: be taking them. So they're gonna go for the Uh,

943
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna go for a RS. I think that's that's

944
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Next. We're gonna say there needs to

945
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: be a ban on sale of new air fifteens. Maybe

946
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna push for all the Florida is pretty pretty

947
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: strong on gun rights. They may try something there, but

948
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll get very far on a magazine

949
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: limitation or something. But this, it's gonna be the same

950
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: exact playbook, the same storyline, the same political fight that

951
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: we saw after Newtown and some of these other incidents. Uh,

952
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: and we'll see um. I think that this is the

953
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: first time also that Trump has really had to way

954
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: in while he's the president. While he's uh as in

955
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: the United States, weigh in on whether or not there's

956
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: gonna be anything that comes from a legislative side here. Um.

957
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: And by the way, in the third hour, we're gonna

958
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: switch up topics because it's only so long. I think

959
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: I can handle this before it's just too much. We'll

960
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: be back other shows. Just talk at you in the

961
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: Freedom Mud. We have a mission. We fight for the

962
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: truth in a team effort and buck us back with

963
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: our next play. Thanks for staying with me, everyone. We

964
00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: are bringing you breaking news here on this school shoot

965
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 1: footing in Florida, and we have seventeen dead thus far

966
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: as expected. The number will likely climb higher than that,

967
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: given that there were over fourteen people taking to the

968
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: hospital somewhere dead on arrival at the scene when police

969
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: arrived at the scene, so we are waiting to see

970
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: if that casualty account goes higher. We know one shooter

971
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: identified as a Nicholas Cruise, nineteen years old former student,

972
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: and looks like he started shooting outside the building, came

973
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: into building, pulled the fire alarm, and then turned to

974
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: turn the hallway of one of these buildings at the

975
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida into a kill zone.

976
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: And there were armed security personnel at the school, though

977
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: not clear how many or how close they were to

978
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: the initial incident, and they then created a perimeter and

979
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: the shooter was captured off school ground, so he almost

980
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: got away. So we'll be looking more at the response

981
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: with this. But I wanted to note that there are

982
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: already stories that are coming out from eyewitnesses, people who

983
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: were there during this horrific event. I there are stories

984
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: of of heroism as well. I mean, it certainly is

985
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: reassuring to have all of our law enforcement personnel on

986
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: the scene and doing everything they can to tend to

987
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: the people there, and also first responders, and you even

988
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: heard from some of the surgeons who were trying to

989
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: save lives of the wounded. But there were some there

990
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: were some heroics as well during this incident, including uh

991
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: Is believed by a teacher. Here's the first person account

992
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: of how one teacher responded during the shooting. We all

993
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: got upstairs and into our classrooms, and when he tried

994
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: to unlock the door, me and a couple other people

995
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: ran in, and as he was closing the door, he

996
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: was actually shot and killed right there. And the door

997
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 1: was left open the whole time, so as he walked by,

998
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: the door was open. He could have walked in at

999
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: any time, and we just had to be as quiet

1000
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: as possible. So he he ran back to open the

1001
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: classroom for you guys so you could be safe. Apparently,

1002
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: So when we ran in, yeah, he was about to

1003
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: close the door to the door after they had gotten

1004
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: back in. He was trying to lock the door to

1005
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: keep the students safe. And before he had a chance

1006
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: to close and lock the door, that's when he got shot.

1007
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,479
Speaker 1: So a teacher was killed trying to lock the doors

1008
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: so the students inside would be safe. Oh man, So heroism,

1009
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: but heroism that ended in the you know, the life

1010
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: of the hero lost in the circumstances. Look, it's it's

1011
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: a it's a very it's a very tough day for

1012
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: the country. There's no there's no words that we can

1013
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: say here that will that will change any of that.

1014
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: And we're just giving you the details as they come

1015
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: out a R fifteen multiple Maggazines. Political debate is already

1016
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: it's already begun. I mean, I almost hesitate to tell

1017
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:07,959
Speaker 1: you what's what some of the stuff that's being said

1018
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: on on social media right now, just because it's always

1019
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: a bit of a shock how how hateful people can be.

1020
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: After something like this happens, you would think that there's

1021
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: a normal, decent human impulse to just toned down the

1022
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: nasty rhetoric and the name calling and all that stuff.

1023
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: But now you get a lot of a lot of people,

1024
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: including those with big platforms and and large followings, who

1025
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: will be saying that this is the fault of those

1026
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: who support the Second Amendment, this is the fault of

1027
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: gun owners, this is you know, any number of things,

1028
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: and that's that's not constructive at all, as we know,

1029
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: it's it's reckless and it's irresponsible. And yeah, by the

1030
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: way the gunman was we have more information of the

1031
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: gun was wearing a gas mask and may have had

1032
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: smoke bombs on him as well. So it seems now

1033
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: we have a gunman wearing a gas mask with an

1034
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: a R fifteen, multiple magazines, and they believe he may

1035
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: have been carrying smoke bombs too. I would note that

1036
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: the footage of the shooter when we saw him being

1037
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: taken into custody, the footage showed him without any It

1038
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: didn't seem to get any tactical gear anything on him.

1039
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: So he may and this is just my analysis, this

1040
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: is not confirmed. It seems to me that he may

1041
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: have shed his gear and tried to uh and tried

1042
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: to escape on foot without the stuff, or maybe he

1043
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: was shot and in exchange with law enforcement and then they,

1044
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, he dropped his rifle. Then I don't know,

1045
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: but it didn't seem like he was in the photos.

1046
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like he had anything like a flak

1047
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: vest or a tactical vest on. Certainly didn't see any

1048
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: smoke grenades attached to him. Looked like he was just

1049
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: wearing a T shirt. Uh. We had this nineteen year

1050
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: old Nicholas Cruz, who's in he's in custod he's alive.

1051
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: And here we are. We have had eighteen school shooting

1052
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: so far this year. That's a number you're gonna be

1053
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: hearing a lot. Eighteen school shootings and about a hundred

1054
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: a hundred and fourteen, is that right, Mike? From starting?

1055
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: A hundred fourteen school shootings total since Sandy Hook in twelve, well,

1056
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: one forty two I'm sorry, one forty two, hundred forty

1057
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: two shootings since Sandy Hook, So you're averaging. Let's see

1058
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: here you've got since twelve, so six years, and in

1059
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: six years you've had a hundred forty two school shootings.

1060
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: So you know you're you're looking at a little over

1061
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: twenty over twenty year between twenty and thirty a year,

1062
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: let's say, let's call it. And you've had eight team

1063
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: so far this year. So this has been a particularly

1064
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: bad year so far for school shootings, and we may

1065
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: have to get into a national discussion about whether there's

1066
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: a just this is a copycat effect at work, that

1067
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: the disaffected, the the angry, the evil, those who for

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01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: whatever reason, have it's even tough to get in the

1069
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: psychology of this and how how someone could ever be

1070
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: so so angry, so hateful, so vengeful, so completely lacking

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01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: in any consideration or or a thought for his fellow

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01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: human beings going to a school and just start shooting

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01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: much innocent people. It really defies imagination. It's hard to

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01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 1: think of how somebody gets to that point, and yet

1075
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: it is something that happens with some ah some frequency. Now, um, anyway,

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01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: I wonder if you have any thoughts on this, folks.

1077
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: I know we've had a lot of calls coming in

1078
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: and out throughout the show. Do you think that there's

1079
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: a I think there's an Do you think something has changed?

1080
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: Has this gotten worse? Is this just our perception of

1081
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: it is because of the reporting of it, or are

1082
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: we in the midst of a a school shooting wave

1083
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: that has gone from being a very unfortunate fact of

1084
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: of life in this country to being an epidemic. Is

1085
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: there a sense of additional urgency because of the scale

1086
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: of the emergency here and and the speed with which

1087
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: these incidents are happening. I don't have answers to those questions,

1088
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: and I'm wondering if you have thoughts on it or

1089
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: just anything that you want to share with with everybody

1090
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: listening about you know, what do we do now? What

1091
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: are we? What are we to make of this? Eight

1092
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: four four n eight to five on the lines eight

1093
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: four four nine bucks. I am going to tell you

1094
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: right now, I can't really, you know, it just becomes

1095
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: emotionally and psychologically taxing to delve into this for the

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01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: full three hours, and the next hour we're gonna change out.

1097
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: We've got some guests joining, We're gonna change up topics.

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01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: If I have important breaking news, I will share it

1099
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: with you, but we will we'll move on to some

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01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,439
Speaker 1: other things in the third hour of the show. I

1101
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: just I don't think it's helpful or useful for us

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01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: to go beyond the analysis that we have already. We've

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01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: already been engaging in here for the third hour um

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01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: and again lines lines are open. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: So no updates yet on any more casualties from this

1106
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: mass shooting in Parkland floor to the school shooting. Shooters

1107
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: and custody identified as Nicholas Cruz and wore a gas mask,

1108
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: had an a R fifteen. Multiple magazines pulled the alarm

1109
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: as he entered the building. He entered shooting, he had

1110
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: already shot people outside and then shot as many as

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01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: he could inside. I'm wondering, you know, we we don't

1112
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: yet know, um, what exactly circumstances were of his capture

1113
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: because he's in the hospital. What do we know if

1114
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: he was shot? Was he We don't he was not shot, right,

1115
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: We don't know. I mean, if he was taking the hospital,

1116
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: I mean he oh, it's it's just yeah, it's well,

1117
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: So we don't know. He might have just been taken

1118
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: because he's being taken to the hospital to see but

1119
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: they also may have been taken because he was shot.

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01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: But see, if he was just taken there, he didn't

1121
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: seem like he was from the video, like he was

1122
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 1: bleeding out or anything. So that strikes me as I

1123
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: think he shed all of his gear and thought he

1124
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 1: was going to get away with the rest of the students,

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01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: and then they finally some of the students knew who

1126
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: he was, and they they gave a description and they

1127
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: finally got him. I mean, the cops got him. Um,

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01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: but I want to know how the apprehension happened. We

1129
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: have really very little information right now about how they

1130
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: actually apprehended the the mass shooter here and oh, gosh,

1131
01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 1: all these this is one of these things. This is

1132
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: the It's terrible just thinking about the casualties, the families,

1133
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: what these kids went through. We have audio of the

1134
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: actual shooting, kids screaming um. But then you also have

1135
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: all these you know, young people afterwards who are just

1136
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: a lot of them are are literally in shock, and

1137
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: they are in a state of shock. And then they

1138
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: come together and start sharing stories and people will be

1139
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: telling what their first hand experiences were of their shooting,

1140
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: and you'll hear it and you'll see it. And I

1141
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,799
Speaker 1: know there were kids who were in closets, tweet hiding

1142
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: in closets and hiding under desks, who are sending messages

1143
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: to their parents during the shooting. It's it's just terrifying.

1144
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't you know, I

1145
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: can't imagine. Um. Here we are not a lot of

1146
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: not a lot of solutions, folks, not a lot of

1147
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: takeaways from this that would be I think that would

1148
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 1: be helpful or realistic in terms of stopping the next one.

1149
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: But let's see what you all think. Felix in Pennsylvania, Felix,

1150
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: always good to talk to you, my friend. What do

1151
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: you think? All right? Buck. You know, I'm fifty eight

1152
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 1: years old, okay, And as I reached back with my memory,

1153
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: I just do not recall there being these mass shootings

1154
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: years ago. Prior to column bind whenever you had shootings,

1155
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: people usually had specific people that they were angry at.

1156
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 1: There's a period where there was a post office shootings,

1157
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: and yeah, there was the expression of very I mean

1158
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: very you know, flippant and not pretty move when people

1159
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: say you're going postal right, meaning that you were head

1160
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: gone nuts. Yeah, but you know, they usually went in

1161
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: and they had one, two or three people that they

1162
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: were angry at, you know, and they didn't just go

1163
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: in there and shoot everybody. Uh. These mass shootings to me,

1164
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: for some reason, it just seems like it's been since

1165
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 1: I would say column buying or something like that. Otherwise,

1166
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: prior was rarely did you have the situation. There was

1167
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: that one in Texas like in the nineties sixties where

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01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 1: the guy was in the tower. Yeah, I mentioned I

1169
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: mentioned that one. Yeah, University of Texas six. Yeah, and

1170
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: there was really I think no reason for that one.

1171
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: But aside from that, generally speaking, shootings, you know, during

1172
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 1: that period of time, they were just angry people that

1173
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: were angry at somebody, you know, and and what after

1174
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: a specific target. This just makes no sense whatsoever. Yeah,

1175
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: it seems like in these mass shooting situations. Oh my gosh,

1176
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: is that what I'm sorry, Felix, I'm okay. Well, uh

1177
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: my gosh. I thought I just saw a video flashing

1178
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: up on the screen when we were on air, and

1179
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: I saw somebody enter a room. Uh you know this

1180
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: is on TV. You saw somebody enter a room and

1181
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 1: it was footage from inside the school within within a

1182
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: R and just for a second that, oh my god,

1183
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: but it's actually you can kind of it was law enforcement,

1184
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: thank god, entering the room to make sure the kids

1185
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 1: are okay. For a second there we had cell phone

1186
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: video of somebody entering a classroom with the a R.

1187
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you could basically tell from away the guy

1188
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: walked in that his law enforcement. Then he gets closer

1189
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: you can see anyway. Sorry, I just had a I

1190
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: just had a moment there where I was I was

1191
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: watching this in real time around the phone with me,

1192
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: you know. I the numbers when when they talk about

1193
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: shootings in the United States versus other countries, you've got

1194
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: to take into account how large the United States actually

1195
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: isn't how big it's population is. I'm sure dwarfs West

1196
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 1: you know, all the countries of Western Europe put together,

1197
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 1: you know, so that's pretty noncesical when they make those

1198
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: kind of comparisons. Yeah, well you have to certainly account

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01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: for population. One of the problems when you look at

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01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: what the with the New York Times when they've I've

1201
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 1: seen some New York Times compilations of of mass shootings

1202
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: and looking at the data and that they won't take

1203
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: population into effect, and they'll say things like, well, you know,

1204
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: we don't have uh, this doesn't exist elsewhere. And look,

1205
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 1: we have never had a mass shooting on the scale

1206
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: of the Beslan school masker for example, which I know

1207
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 1: it was a terrorist attack, but it was at a school.

1208
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: And when you when you look at islands in schools

1209
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 1: around the world, First of all, there have been student

1210
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: on student shootings elsewhere, and there have also been horrific

1211
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,839
Speaker 1: acts of violence specifically targeting schools and school aged children.

1212
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 1: So it's not unique to us. And when politicians say

1213
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: that it's not true. But I will say that there's

1214
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: a from from what I'm seeing on the statistics here,

1215
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 1: there is a surge in school shootings this year, which

1216
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: I I can't I can't come up with even a

1217
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 1: working thesis right now for why that is other than

1218
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: there's a copy cat effect now with social media. I

1219
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: think that these these vile, malcontents, uh see this as

1220
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: a as a means of you know, they'll kind of

1221
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: achieve some level of fame and they'll be able to

1222
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, this this guy obviously he's not dead. He

1223
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: didn't go down shooting in this one. Um, but Felix,

1224
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have a I don't have

1225
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: a good read on why things have gotten worse with

1226
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: mass shootings in recent months, you know. And also too,

1227
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: it's just this guy wasn't even supposed to be there.

1228
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: He was expelled from school. Uh. These things just they

1229
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 1: make no sense, you know. And like when people talk

1230
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: about possibly you know, teachers that can be trained and

1231
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 1: you know, want to be armed, they should be back

1232
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: when I grew up, I mean, you know, there were

1233
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: you were allowed to have guns on school property. This

1234
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: is another new thing, you know, and you're leaving people

1235
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: completely defenseless. Yeah, this is a gun free zone. Yeah.

1236
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,759
Speaker 1: And you know another these are all happening and quote

1237
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: gun free zones. Felix, thanks for calling her from Pennsylvania. Man.

1238
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: Always good to have you on board. Uh, this is

1239
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: a gun free zone, and it's clearly not a gun

1240
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: free zone for the bad guys, as we've discussed many

1241
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: times before. Um, it's just a gun free zone for

1242
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: anybody who might want to either go hunting after school

1243
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: or defend themselves in school. Ah. And it's not it's

1244
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: not enough. I mean when you when you look at

1245
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 1: the real logistics of the of the actual assault here,

1246
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: this guy has a has a semi automatic rifle. This

1247
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: guy Nicholas Cruz, and he's just going and he's just

1248
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: going from mash mass casually he's gonna shoot his people

1249
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: as possible. You you're looking at casualty mitigation in these cases.

1250
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: Even even if you had had every single teacher in

1251
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: this school armed, I don't think that you would have

1252
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: been able to stop this guy from killing anyone. Really,

1253
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm just being realistic here, but you may have had

1254
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: instead of the seven team dead that we've see now,

1255
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, you may have had three or four. And

1256
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 1: obviously that would mean that there are a whole lot

1257
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: more people that would be going home tonight to their families,

1258
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: um than currently are. So you know, you're looking at

1259
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: casualty mitigation, not elimination. So, uh, because I don't know

1260
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: what you're I don't know how you're gonna stop, you know,

1261
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 1: unless this guy was going to decide to take on

1262
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 1: armed security himself first and foremost right to try to

1263
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 1: take out security personnel to leave the school even more defenseless.

1264
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: And I hate saying this, but there's a part of

1265
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: me that also thinks this guy is an a R

1266
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: multiple magazines. It's got a school of three thousand students.

1267
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 1: We're you know that it could have been it could

1268
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: have been worse as terrible as this was. I mean,

1269
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: and it has been worse than the sense that there

1270
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: have been school shootings with higher casualty accounts, So that

1271
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: that is that is uh just a factive history at

1272
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: this point, folks. I'm just it's very troubling. I'm I'm

1273
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: I feel um, I feel like analysis of the situation

1274
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: right now it's just insufficient. It's uh, not not enough answers.

1275
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing a lot of research and looking

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Speaker 1: into everything I can tonight to try to figure out

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Speaker 1: if there's if there I like to talk about solutions.

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Speaker 1: I like to talk about making how we can make

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Speaker 1: things better, how we can at least lower, if not eliminate,

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Speaker 1: the risk of these kinds of incidents. And right now

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Speaker 1: I just feel a sense of sadness and frustration, and

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Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm kind of overwhelmed by that Right now,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to take a break from this though. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get into some other topics kind of the third hour.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're okay with that. We're gonna move on

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Speaker 1: to just some other news the day and things on

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Speaker 1: my mind because I think we all need that. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back. He's holding the line for America. Buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: his back. Welcome to our three of the buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: I told you we would move on from the topic

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Speaker 1: of We've spent a couple of hours that already talking

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Speaker 1: about the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, at the Douglas

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Speaker 1: High School. There seventeen killed. We will um, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get into some other topics this hour. An update from

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Speaker 1: our friend Annie McCarthy on the situation of the dossier

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Speaker 1: and the Democrat memo and all that Russia stuff. Also

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Speaker 1: got Adam Crado joining from the Free Beacon to talk

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Speaker 1: about um well Iran positioning a whole lot of missiles

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Speaker 1: in Syria pointed at Israel, as well as a story

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Speaker 1: that may lead to Al Jazeera that anti American network

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Speaker 1: paid for by the government of Cutter might have the

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Speaker 1: Registers of Foreign Agent tell you about that, and also

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Speaker 1: some weird spying operation that they had going on in

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Speaker 1: this country al Jazeera did. And then we'll get into

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Speaker 1: some just of your your thoughts here on on roll call.

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Speaker 1: Just an update I had said, based on my but

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Speaker 1: based on what I'd seen from the arrest videos of

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Speaker 1: Nicholas Cruz, that it seemed to me that he likely

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Speaker 1: had ditched his gear and had tried to get away

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Speaker 1: as a as a student, trying to pose as just

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Speaker 1: another student fleeing the terror. And I saw that that

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Speaker 1: has been there are sources now confirming that to reporters

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Speaker 1: that that was in fact the case, that he he

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Speaker 1: ditched his gun and his gear, whatever he had on him,

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Speaker 1: his gap, he had a gas mask, they believe he

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Speaker 1: had smoke grenades. He got rid of all that went

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Speaker 1: down to a T shirt and you know, probably jeans

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Speaker 1: or whatever, and trying to just escape, like the right

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Speaker 1: propose as a fleeing student. And because other students I

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Speaker 1: assume knew who he was, knew who the shooter was,

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Speaker 1: law enforcement was able to um get him before he

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Speaker 1: could get outside the cord. The cord and they had

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Speaker 1: set up and so that's how he got him. Also

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Speaker 1: means this guy really thought this thing through, and I

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Speaker 1: was he was trying to get away. He was trying

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Speaker 1: to get away. Um anyway, So if you wouldn't mind, folks,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna switch gears here for a second, just because

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Speaker 1: I I kind of have to. Um. If there's anything

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Speaker 1: else that breaks I promised this hour, any other important

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Speaker 1: news about this, this terrible event, I will bring at

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Speaker 1: your attention. Okay, you know, mind immigration, it's talk about

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Speaker 1: immigration for a few minutes. Let's uh move to something

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Speaker 1: else here. So you have the Senate in the in

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Speaker 1: the midst of trying to get a deal. Here, here's

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Speaker 1: my short version of where I think all this is going.

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Speaker 1: It's not going anywhere. It's not going to be an

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Speaker 1: immigration deal because the Democrats only want a full scale

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Speaker 1: and total amnesty. They they have no interest and anything

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Speaker 1: that could prevent that. That's where changes to change. Migration

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Speaker 1: changes to interior enforcement. Changes to any existing either enforcement

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Speaker 1: priorities or immigration structural immigration issues are just gonna be

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Speaker 1: completely unacceptable to the Democrat Party. They're gonna say no way,

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Speaker 1: because they want eleven million legalized that are currently illegal.

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Speaker 1: M Paul Ryan is trying to sound hopeful on this issue.

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Speaker 1: Here's what Here's what he had to say. We have

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Speaker 1: a problem that needs solving. We want to solve doctor,

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Speaker 1: but we also want to solve DOCA in a comprehensive

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Speaker 1: way such that we don't have a doctor problem in

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Speaker 1: five years. The President did a very good job of

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Speaker 1: putting a very sincere offer on the table, and that

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Speaker 1: sincere offer that he put on the table should be

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Speaker 1: the framework through which we we come together to find

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Speaker 1: a solution. We want to find a solution. Our hope

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Speaker 1: that our Democratic colleagues are more interested in finding a

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Speaker 1: solution than preserving an issue for campaigns. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that that's going to be the case. I do not

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Speaker 1: think that we will have UM Democrats trying to seriously

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Speaker 1: find a way two uh. I do not think the

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Speaker 1: Democrats will have in any way, shape or form a

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Speaker 1: serious deal that comes out of this UM. They don't

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Speaker 1: want to deal. They don't want to deal. And Tom

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Speaker 1: Cotton chimed into the Senator Cotton to let everyone know

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Speaker 1: that Trump is this is as good as they're going

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Speaker 1: to get for the I mean, on the Democrat side

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Speaker 1: of it, in terms of an offer from the Republicans.

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Speaker 1: This is it, folks. The President's Framework Bill is not

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Speaker 1: an opening bit for negotiations. It's a best and final offer.

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Speaker 1: It's going to encourage more illegal immigration. We know that.

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Speaker 1: So we have to cure our southern border. Ire bill

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Speaker 1: provides the money and the legal thority and do so.

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Speaker 1: And it would create a whole new pool of legal

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Speaker 1: immigrants who could legalize their families to include the parents

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Speaker 1: who created the problem in the first place. That's why

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Speaker 1: we have to end the practice of extended family chain migration.

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Speaker 1: That's right, you gotta en change migration. See, that's a

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Speaker 1: long term immigration issue. Yah, there's a lot. That's because

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Speaker 1: that's immigration policy. That's not even that's not about illegal

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Speaker 1: that's about legal immigration. That is shifting the framework of

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Speaker 1: who we bring into this country and who gets to stay,

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Speaker 1: and what the grounds are for permanent residency and even

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Speaker 1: citizenship in this country. And Democrats don't want to change

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Speaker 1: that at all. They have a system that works for

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Speaker 1: them right now, which is illegals get to stay. Illegals

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Speaker 1: are increasingly important political constituencies in New York, in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, UM, they are really they really determined

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Speaker 1: politics in those plays is because you can't go against

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Speaker 1: the legal community or you will no longer be an

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Speaker 1: elected official. And then on the immigrant on the legal

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Speaker 1: immigration side of the equation, you have h a large

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Speaker 1: proportion of people who come into the country from poor,

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Speaker 1: developing countries and they bring family members with them, and

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Speaker 1: it just creates constituencies of voters for the Democrat Party

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Speaker 1: that are going to be multigenerational and stretching far into

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Speaker 1: the future and have a tremendous impact. Right the Democrat

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Speaker 1: Party is dedicated and it's a decades long project to

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Speaker 1: the demographic change of this country in favor of state

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Speaker 1: is um and the ideological left. That's the plan, that's

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Speaker 1: the goal. So when I think Trump's opening offer here

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Speaker 1: shows as much as originally I was a little concerned

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Speaker 1: because I thought it was too too favorable to the

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Speaker 1: other side based on his promises are in the campaign.

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Speaker 1: What this shows is that that is in fact the

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Speaker 1: Democrat plan because they won't move on this. There won't

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Speaker 1: be any part of this that is in fact acceptable

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Speaker 1: to them. They will walk away, they'll use it as

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Speaker 1: a mid term issue, and they will continue on as is.

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Speaker 1: That's my prediction on this. There will be no deal

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Speaker 1: on immigration, despite Republicans being fair minded and operating in

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Speaker 1: good faith on it. All right, we're gonna have Annie

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Speaker 1: McCarthy joining us here in just a moment. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: want to hear what he has to say about surveillance

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Speaker 1: and PISA abuse. And if there are any additions, any

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Speaker 1: breaking news on the school shooting, I promise we'll bring

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Speaker 1: that to you as well. Stay with me, alright, everyone, So,

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Speaker 1: there's still a whole lot of unanswered questions as we know,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be that's gonna be true, I think

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Speaker 1: for months, if not years to come about what's going

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Speaker 1: on with the whole Russia collusion narrative, the FISA abuse allegations,

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Speaker 1: all of that. And we have some some new developments

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Speaker 1: though that I wanted to work through with our friend

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Speaker 1: and expert on these matters, Andy McCarthy. He is, of course,

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Speaker 1: of National Review and he's a former Assistant U S

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Speaker 1: Attorney for the Southern District of New York Andy. Great

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Speaker 1: to have you on, but great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I know you've been you've been addressing

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Speaker 1: this for a few days now. I just want you

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Speaker 1: to to explain to everybody because I think it's a

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Speaker 1: critical point. There was a lot of oh, Carter Page,

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Speaker 1: what wasn't part of the Trump campaign when the surveillance

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Speaker 1: was going on at least from what we know of,

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Speaker 1: or they started it before he was Trump. And and

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Speaker 1: what you've been telling folks is and I think this

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Speaker 1: is really important for everyone to hear. Once you once

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Speaker 1: you get somebody up once, once you've got the miked up,

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Speaker 1: so to speak, you get access to a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff current, future and past, right if they have.

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Speaker 1: If you're up on somebody's communications devices, you get all

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Speaker 1: the forward going stuff, of course, but if the person

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Speaker 1: has or email restored texts, you get those as well.

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Speaker 1: So I might operating theory on this, and we have

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Speaker 1: to have these I guess guys like you and me, Buck,

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01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: because we don't have the current information, but we do

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Speaker 1: we've got been around the block enough times to kind

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01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 1: of know how these things work, and what these guys

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01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 1: were probably thinking. I believe that they thought the mother

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Speaker 1: load with respect to Carter Page was not going to

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Speaker 1: be as forward going uh communications, although I think they

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Speaker 1: were very interested in those as well. I think they

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01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 1: were hoping to get communications that he had while he

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Speaker 1: was with the Trump campaign. So the the sequence of

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Speaker 1: events is they go up on, we should go up

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Speaker 1: on they begin their surveillance on his communications devices, whichever

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Speaker 1: they were in October. It was I think October twenty one,

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Speaker 1: UH he had parted ways or the campaign the Trump

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Speaker 1: campaign had parted ways with him in mid September, after

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Speaker 1: these press stories came out about the Steel dossier, which

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Speaker 1: talked about him in the context of his h of

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Speaker 1: his trip to Russia. The Trump campaign decided he was

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Speaker 1: a hot number at that point. He was never that

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Speaker 1: important to them anyway, so they kind of formally cut

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Speaker 1: ties with him. But what I think the investigators were

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Speaker 1: hoping was when they got up on his phones and

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Speaker 1: his his email and text and whatever else in October,

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Speaker 1: that he would have stored email and texts and they

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Speaker 1: would get the Trump Russia communications to the extent there

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Speaker 1: were any, And I think that probably turned out to

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Speaker 1: be a dry hole. But I imagine that's what they

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Speaker 1: were thinking. How how believable do you find it? Andy?

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Speaker 1: At this point, um and forever and listening case you

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Speaker 1: and he was a federal prosecutor for over twenty years,

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Speaker 1: so he's he's got a sense about these things. How

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Speaker 1: believable is it at this point that there's like, actually,

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Speaker 1: apart from the dossier, really solid information on carter Page

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Speaker 1: that would justify the kind of surveillance that they were

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Speaker 1: doing outside of in the well, I mean, counterintelligence is

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Speaker 1: a lower standard. But do do you think that they

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Speaker 1: were were they playing games with this? I mean, do

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Speaker 1: you or do you think there really was information that

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Speaker 1: would be damning? Because I just feel like if carter

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Speaker 1: Page was really up to shady stuff, Andy, how come

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Speaker 1: no one's even whispered. We haven't even had a leak

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Speaker 1: of a theory of a criminal charge against carter Page. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, Buck, he's suing people for libel. So

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Speaker 1: you know, if there's something out there were about him,

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Speaker 1: he's certainly inviting it to be disclosed, since you know,

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Speaker 1: the truth would be a defense, uh to any of

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Speaker 1: his libel claims. So I think you're quite right you know,

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01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: I've I've tried to point out to people, but that

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01:28:56,360 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with an American citizen or what they

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01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 1: call in the federal law a u S person, which

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01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 1: is citizens, then lawful permanent residents, green card holders. But

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01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with somebody in that status, FAISA has

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01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 1: a more demanding test for surveillance. You have to show

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01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: not only that the guy is engaged in clandestine activities

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01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 1: from which it's fair to conclude that he's acting as

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01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 1: an agent for a foreign power, you also have to

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01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 1: show that those clandestine activities undertaken on behalf of that

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01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 1: foreign power are probably violations of federal criminal law. So

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01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 1: it's not enough to just say he was furthering Russia's agenda.

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01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 1: You have to show that he was doing something that

1501
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: was in violation of federal law. Now, you always have

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01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 1: to caution that the FBI knows a lot more than

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01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: I do, and the intelligence community generally knows a lot

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01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 1: more than I do. But but that said, um, the

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01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 1: the stuff that's in the Steal dossier lays out some

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01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 1: potential prosecutable crimes. I'm not aware of anything else with

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01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 1: respect to Carter Page that does that's not to say

1508
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 1: it's not out there. They could know more than we do,

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01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 1: but that certainly seems to me like it's the likely

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01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 1: source of it, and it wouldn't it be incombent then

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01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 1: in on the FBI to try to find a way

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01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 1: to get some of that information out there. I mean,

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01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: there's it just feels like they're playing this big, big

1514
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,639
Speaker 1: game of hide the ball now from the American people.

1515
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 1: And as you know, it's national security information, classified information.

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01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 1: It's always a balancing act, right, It's not just oh,

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01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 1: it's classified, so we're gonna just keep underlock and key forever.

1518
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 1: In fact, a lot of information over time is by

1519
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 1: law declassified. That's the way it's supposed to go. So

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01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 1: the public has a right to know in time, just

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01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 1: can't know right away. To me, it seems like if

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01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,679
Speaker 1: the FBI has got more on this guy, we need

1523
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 1: definitive proof that they did, because otherwise this whole thing

1524
01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 1: just it really does look like a sham. Yeah, well

1525
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm a little bit um. I'm willing to

1526
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 1: cut them a little more slack than that, but not much.

1527
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 1: So here's here's what I think happened here. I believe

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01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 1: that they believed steele Um and if you, if you,

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01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 1: I think it's very hard in to put yourself in

1530
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 1: the shoes of what everybody was thinking in the autumn

1531
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 1: of But if you believed steele Um and you saw

1532
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 1: what he was alleging, that would be very very alarming.

1533
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 1: If if even half of that was true, it would

1534
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 1: be very alarming. And I think steele came to them

1535
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:44,759
Speaker 1: with credibility because he had cooperated with them or helped

1536
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: them on the FIFA soccer investigation, and they thought well

1537
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 1: of him, so they overlooked the fact that they couldn't

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01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 1: corroborate his sources, which to me is the biggest uh

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01:31:56,200 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 1: default in this whole escapade. Because I'm I'm less as

1540
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:04,639
Speaker 1: bad as the issues with respect to steals biases are.

1541
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm less concerned about that than I am about the

1542
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 1: fact that his sources are anonymous Russians who are three

1543
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: and four hearsay levels removed from the events that they

1544
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: supposedly saw. That the judge was asked to rely on

1545
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 1: the probable cause. So I think that's the bigger problem.

1546
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 1: But I think what happened here is they believe steal

1547
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 1: and in some ways Buck you know, you know, with counterintelligence.

1548
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 1: I think these guys think they're playing with the house

1549
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 1: money in the sense that when everybody when when prosecutors

1550
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 1: and investigators are in a doing a criminal case, if

1551
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: they go to get a warrant, even though it's just

1552
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: them and the judge, when they go to get the warrant,

1553
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,440
Speaker 1: everybody knows that everything is eventually going to be disclosed.

1554
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 1: It's all gonna be handed over to the defense lawyers

1555
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 1: and the defendant, and the court's gonna pick over it.

1556
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 1: So that keeps you on your good behavior because you

1557
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 1: know down the road someone's gonna be checking your work.

1558
01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 1: And I think here they they're operating under the cloak

1559
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 1: of counterintelligence where everything's top secret, and they believed Hillary

1560
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 1: was going to win. So I think that that makes

1561
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 1: you sloppy. I think that you know, they were I'm

1562
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:12,560
Speaker 1: going to cut them some slack, that they were legitimately

1563
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 1: alarmed because they thought Steel was a credible guy, that

1564
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: at least some of what he was telling them was true.

1565
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 1: But they were operating around the edges. They were getting

1566
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 1: a little creative. Yep, yeah, yeah, I think so too.

1567
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 1: And you just want more for you on the on

1568
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 1: the Democrat memo, I don't really understand that the process.

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01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I I know about how classified information works,

1570
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 1: and I know about how the executive branch processes work,

1571
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,600
Speaker 1: but I don't. So so the Congress, you got, the

1572
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 1: House Committee voted to send this Democrat memo through, but

1573
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 1: now the FBI and the White House have sent it

1574
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,759
Speaker 1: back and said there's too much classified in it. So

1575
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 1: and other Democrats are saying that they won't release it

1576
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 1: or what are you what's going on here? As far

1577
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 1: as you see it, it it seems to me like there's

1578
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 1: obviously games being played here. Yeah, I think there are,

1579
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 1: But this is one of the issues, but where it's

1580
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: more of a legal I mean, a political thing than

1581
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:06,759
Speaker 1: a legal thing. So there's this congressional process in the House.

1582
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 1: The Senate doesn't have this, where the committee can vote

1583
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 1: to declassify something and then in their rules it gives

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01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 1: the president five days to weigh in. Now, when the

1585
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: President says I object, that doesn't have the force of law,

1586
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 1: because Congress has full immunity under the Speech and Debate clause.

1587
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 1: If they want to, if they want to express something

1588
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 1: that's classified, Uh, they can do it and they can't

1589
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 1: be prosecuted for it. But of course, no congress person

1590
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,600
Speaker 1: is going to want to do something that looks like

1591
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 1: it's damaging to the country or looks like they're exposing

1592
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 1: classified information for no other reasons. So it's kind of

1593
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 1: a game of chicken. I think what happened here is

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01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 1: that the Democrats laced their letter with a lot of

1595
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 1: message and sources stuff, knowing that that would be objected to,

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01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 1: and then they were hoping that from the objection they'd

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01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 1: be able to say that they are memo was being

1598
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 1: suppressed by Trump. But did the Republicans in the House.

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01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 1: Did the Republicans in this House committee any say it was? Okay?

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01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: They must have, right, unless it wouldn't have made it

1601
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 1: out of the committee, because basically they said, we're not

1602
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: falling into the trap here. Okay, sure, fine, put it out,

1603
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 1: and then they put it on the President in the

1604
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 1: FBI and the Justice Department to object to it. Now

1605
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 1: that makes sense, okay, Yeah, So it was kind of

1606
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 1: a poison pill situation, which I'd assume was the case. Yep,

1607
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 1: do you think it's gonna come out? Uh? Not in

1608
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 1: the form that they the Democrats want to put it

1609
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 1: out in. But you know, as the Republicans of the Committee,

1610
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,679
Speaker 1: including Noon Has say, uh, they sure hope it comes

1611
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 1: out because they think it will show what what complete

1612
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:43,760
Speaker 1: nonsense it is, that it doesn't really have anything to

1613
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 1: do with the main issue, which is did they use

1614
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 1: the dossier to get a warrant? And did they corroborate it?

1615
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 1: And on those issues, I don't think the Democrats are

1616
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 1: gonna help themselves much with this letter. Any what's your

1617
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 1: next piece gonna be working? Folks go to find it. Well,

1618
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm working on something with respect to Susan Rice's mysterious

1619
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 1: email that we learned about the last couple of days,

1620
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 1: and um tomorrow and nash review dot com everybody, and

1621
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 1: he just real quick, do you think it's shady? Because

1622
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 1: I think it's shady, it's sad, yes, and he agrees

1623
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 1: it's shady. Now I feel I've been saying all week

1624
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 1: you don't write yourself by the book twice in an

1625
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 1: email your last day on the job unless there's been

1626
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 1: some not by the book stuff. So I feel very

1627
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 1: confident now that you're on the same year, on the

1628
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 1: same train as I am on that one. Andy McCarthy, everybody,

1629
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 1: the one and only follow him on Twitter check out

1630
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 1: his stuff on Nasha review dot com and you thank

1631
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 1: you so much for making the time. Alright, team, we're

1632
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 1: gonna roll into a quick break. We'll be right back. Hey, team,

1633
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to flag a story for you that has

1634
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:50,679
Speaker 1: got some really interesting dynamics at work. It's by Adam Crado,

1635
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 1: who is a senior writer over at the Washington Free Beacon.

1636
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:59,759
Speaker 1: Here's the headline, cutterback spy operation on US Jews puts

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01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 1: Al Jazeera in congressional crosshairs. Quite a title and quite

1638
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 1: a story. We have the author with us right now,

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01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 1: Mr Adam Crado. Good to have you back, sir, Thanks

1640
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 1: for having me. I appreciate it. Buddy. All right, you

1641
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 1: got you gotta tell us. We're workers through some of

1642
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 1: the details and then we'll get into the implications. But

1643
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 1: what is going on here? This is quite This is

1644
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 1: quite a tale. It really is quite a tale, and

1645
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,679
Speaker 1: it's um one of these truth is stranger than fiction

1646
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 1: type tales. We have Al Jazeera, which of course everybody

1647
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:35,680
Speaker 1: knows is a state funded news organization. The Qatari government

1648
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 1: UH funds Al Jazeera and necessarily Al Jazira tows their

1649
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 1: line and one of their pet projects for quite some

1650
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 1: time has been UH anti Israel documentary. So what Al

1651
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: Jazira did very quietly about last year, and we're just

1652
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 1: kind of finding out the details now, is that they

1653
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 1: hired a molar too and sent them into Washington, d C.

1654
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 1: To essentially the infiltrate pros Rael organizations and UH try

1655
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 1: to find pro Israel officials supporters in compromising positions. Now, look,

1656
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 1: really what they found is not all that shocking. That

1657
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 1: pro Israel people want to stop boycotts of Israel, they

1658
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:20,639
Speaker 1: want to combat anti Semitism. But it seems that what

1659
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 1: they've done here that you know, when you record somebody

1660
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 1: through a peepole camera, everything starts to look kind of sexy.

1661
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 1: And Alta's area has begun sending letters now to a

1662
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 1: lot of these organizations telling ram, well, we've got you

1663
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 1: on videotape. We need you to respond to these allegations

1664
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 1: that there is Jowish influence in the US government, that

1665
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 1: pro Israel Jews in America are working on behalf of

1666
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 1: the Israeli government um to stop boycotts of Israel, all

1667
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 1: these kinds of lines, and what we're seeing now is

1668
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 1: that this is can amount to cutter a foreign government

1669
01:38:55,479 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 1: running a spy operation on American soil, targeting US Jews.

1670
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 1: Let's not lie. That's what this is. This is not

1671
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 1: a news outlet doing an investigation. This is a propaganda network.

1672
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 1: This is a state run network operating at the instruction

1673
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,720
Speaker 1: of the government. So this is actually causing quite a

1674
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 1: bit of trouble for Al Jazeera now that there is

1675
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 1: a push Incongress to get Al Jazeera to register as

1676
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: a foreign agent, which is what it is under Farah,

1677
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 1: the Foreign Agents Registration acted. This would really put them

1678
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 1: in line with our art is now under FARA right

1679
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 1: in the last twelve months, I believe exactly what I

1680
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 1: was going to see, exactly what I was gonna say.

1681
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 1: Ye RTI, the Russian UH funded propaganda network is forced

1682
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: recently to register under FARAH, the chi comm newspapers, the

1683
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 1: communist propaganda registers. As such, there's no reason that Al

1684
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:50,919
Speaker 1: Jazeera should not be put in the same category, especially

1685
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 1: after they're spying on American juins. This is astonishing. We're

1686
01:39:55,280 --> 01:40:00,320
Speaker 1: talking about Adam Crado of the Washington Free Beacon about this.

1687
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 1: It seems to me that the most likely way they

1688
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:06,680
Speaker 1: would have approached this, Adam, is that these Al Jazeera journalists,

1689
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 1: so under the cloak of being investigative journalists are effectively

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01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:14,919
Speaker 1: doing oppo research and spying on American Jews. Right, That's

1691
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 1: that that would be how I actually that's how they've

1692
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 1: presented this, right, yeah, yeah, precisely. I mean last year

1693
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:23,280
Speaker 1: I caught wind of it actually kind of when it

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01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:25,880
Speaker 1: was taking place in others, just because I tend to

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01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 1: circulate and report on these communities. But apparently there was

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01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 1: at least one mall that was all around town secretly

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01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 1: recording people, uh infiltrating under false aliases and names into

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01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 1: pros and out organizations, and um, it looks like they

1699
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 1: entangled quite a few people. In my my gut instinct,

1700
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: um is I suspect they don't have that much. I mean,

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01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 1: they can spend this. It's you know, conspiracies with Jews

1702
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 1: and government are always kind of sexy for the anti

1703
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 1: Semitic conspiracy theorists, But my my gut tells me they

1704
01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 1: probably don't have much of it. They've really stepped in

1705
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 1: it year because is exposed to themselves as operating on

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01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 1: behalf of the anti Semitic Tatari government, which as you know,

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01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 1: fund much and brotherhood of a moss Front exporter of

1708
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 1: Taylor financing all these types of things. You also have

1709
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 1: the main story up right now on the Washington Freebeacon website,

1710
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 1: Iran back terror group claims half a million missiles aimed

1711
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 1: at Israel. I was updating folks yesterday on the drone

1712
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:27,640
Speaker 1: that was shot down over Israeli airspace, and also just

1713
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 1: the general situation of Syria right now, which is a

1714
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 1: is a mess. Despite the losses, Isis has sustained what's

1715
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 1: going on with with Hezbollah, what's going on with Iran

1716
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:41,720
Speaker 1: and the half a million missiles. Yeah, you know, I

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01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 1: tried to tell um people quite often whenever I get

1718
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 1: really the chance and they ask me for my take

1719
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 1: on national security and funning policy in these types of things.

1720
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 1: I think this is really the biggest untold story in

1721
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 1: the Middle East right now that, as one person put

1722
01:41:57,479 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 1: it to me, under the cloud of war, are under

1723
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 1: the fog of war that's going on in Syrie, and

1724
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 1: yet in all these other places, Iran has really been

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01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 1: able to secretly and UH covertly UH move advanced missiles

1726
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 1: into the region. They've got weapons of workshops on the

1727
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 1: border with Israel in uh hamas control territory and on

1728
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 1: the northern border where his Bolla operates, between Syria and Lebanon,

1729
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:26,559
Speaker 1: they've been able to stockpile at least seventy thousand new missiles.

1730
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:28,880
Speaker 1: This is on top of about a hundred and fifty

1731
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 1: thousand others, and they say within the next year they'll

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01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 1: be able to amass about half a million advanced missiles

1733
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 1: on Israel's border. And this is really part of an

1734
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 1: Iranian strategy of bombardment that um, if they are to

1735
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 1: get in any sort of direct conflict with Israel, they

1736
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:48,760
Speaker 1: can blow the whistle and their terry proxy groups like

1737
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:51,799
Speaker 1: his Bola and others will come in and barage Israel.

1738
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 1: It's a frightening situation. I'm really not sure what the

1739
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 1: Israeli government does. Uh. I would advocate preemptive bombing here

1740
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 1: the destroyed these cashes, but that that itself. I have

1741
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 1: to say, I was somewhat surprised that Israeli air strikes

1742
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:11,599
Speaker 1: inside Syria targeting both Syrian and Iranian and people don't

1743
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 1: understand that they're actually Iranian installations now in Syria. It's

1744
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 1: not just like a handful of Iranians who are providing

1745
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 1: assistance or you know, there's there's that that Syria effectively

1746
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 1: has become an Iranian launch powder and Iranian forward operating

1747
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 1: base for operations against Israel got very little attention from

1748
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 1: much of the media. I mean, they're shooting down what

1749
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 1: they believe could be a in Iranian knockoff of the

1750
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: Stealth drone, the Sentinel drone. That's what the Idea was

1751
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:43,480
Speaker 1: reporting that the US lost to Iran back in twleven.

1752
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 1: The Iranians are flying that in Israeli airspace. They have

1753
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 1: to shoot it down, I think with an Apache helicopter.

1754
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:53,799
Speaker 1: Three attempts to shoot it down originally failed, and barely

1755
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:55,680
Speaker 1: a peep about it here in the media. Adam, what's

1756
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 1: going on? Look at surprise, it gets easy to ignore.

1757
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 1: These stones are out of his convenient stories about um

1758
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 1: at least from a foreign policy and angld Russia's involvement

1759
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 1: in Seria much sexier given the domestic coverage here in

1760
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 1: the United States. But I've actually been learning about this

1761
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 1: for quite some time that the real untold story is

1762
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 1: what's happening on Israel's northern border with Um. Hens Baula,

1763
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 1: the former recently resigned Prime Minister from Lebanon, when he

1764
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 1: was leaving and fleeing to Saudi Arabia said, I can't

1765
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 1: learn this country. It's completely controlled by his Bola and

1766
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 1: Iranian agents. It's impossible. Yet, um, the Trump administration actually,

1767
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 1: quite shockingly and disappointingly continues to provide arms to the

1768
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,680
Speaker 1: Lebanese armed forces, which really is just the fact of

1769
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:48,440
Speaker 1: his Bola. So there there's a very complicated and similaring

1770
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:52,839
Speaker 1: situation that is only getting worse on Israel's northern border.

1771
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 1: And I really see no other ways for this to

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01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 1: end except in war unless the Trump administration, in certain

1773
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 1: news rallies take some steps now literally down we should

1774
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 1: have done it months and months, if not years ago,

1775
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 1: but steps immediately to kind of mitigate it. Adam Crado

1776
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 1: is a senior writer at the Washington Free Beacon. You

1777
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: can read his latest on national security and everything else

1778
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 1: they're covering over there at Free Beacon dot com. Adam, uh,

1779
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 1: some really great reporting. Thank you so much for joining us.

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01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Thank you. I'm always my pleasure. Alright,

1781
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 1: seem we are going to roll into a break here.

1782
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 1: When I come back, we will get into a bit

1783
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 1: of maybe some roll call some Valentine's talk we've gotta

1784
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 1: been a been a heavy day, and I think we

1785
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 1: can take a breather here at the end to think

1786
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 1: about some more pleasant and happier times. So we'll be

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01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:47,680
Speaker 1: back in just a few Well, team, that's gonna be

1788
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 1: it today in the Freedom Hunt. Gonna be closing out

1789
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:53,839
Speaker 1: the show here in just a couple of minutes. First, Uh,

1790
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 1: you know, I sent Mrs Molly some flowers in her

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01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 1: office today, and I just want to say, I hope

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01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 1: all of you have a a good Valentine's Day. It's

1793
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 1: been a very it's been a very tough day in

1794
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 1: the news cycle, tough day for the country. But you

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01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 1: still need to go home and kiss and hug your

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01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 1: loved ones, and you have your own private or you know,

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01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 1: your own version of a of a Valentine's Day, if

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01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 1: in fact, you even in general, think that Valentine's Day

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01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:28,599
Speaker 1: is something that we should all give into. I sit

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01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:30,720
Speaker 1: here and I'm like, you know, why is it that

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01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 1: we have to send chocolates and flowers and all this stuff.

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01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 1: It strikes me as a little bit more commercial, uh

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01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 1: commercial than I would like to commit to. Right It's

1804
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 1: but you know that again, the same thing with with

1805
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:50,639
Speaker 1: ring buying from what I understand. You know, you got

1806
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 1: to learn about the Four Seas, and you gotta. I

1807
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 1: don't worry. She doesn't listen to the radio show, so

1808
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 1: she's not gonna get tipped off with anything. I am

1809
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 1: just your Valentine's Day. It's fine, all right. Look, if

1810
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:04,560
Speaker 1: you're just sending flowers, it's fine. I get it. Um.

1811
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 1: No one really spends much time commemorating the martyrdom of St. Valentine.

1812
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:18,679
Speaker 1: He was a Roman priest, was beheaded in the third century. Um.

1813
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of back and forth on what

1814
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:24,680
Speaker 1: the the true history of St. Valentine is. Today is

1815
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 1: also ash Wednesday, as you know. So there's just there's

1816
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:33,800
Speaker 1: a lot a lot going on on the calendar. So

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01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 1: I thought I would just get into a bit of

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01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 1: a bit of roll call, because let's do that wet

1819
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 1: oh no, whoa hey, crying chop, We'll take that team buck.

1820
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:55,519
Speaker 1: It's time for roll call, So let's get it going. Sorry,

1821
01:47:55,640 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 1: first we've got t J who writes in he sent

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01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 1: me a stand with Rand from Rand pack dot com.

1823
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:07,639
Speaker 1: Rand Paul, this is about and he said, did Rand

1824
01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 1: ask your permission to use this? Well, t J. Rand

1825
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:11,800
Speaker 1: did not, but I give full permission. But I think

1826
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 1: stand with Rand is obvious enough that I can't pretend

1827
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 1: to to copyright that one. Greg has one for me

1828
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 1: next on the roll call here, Well, question for you

1829
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 1: and maybe discussion on your show sometime. Do your viewers

1830
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 1: think if Trump were not elected but someone like Jeff

1831
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 1: Bush or Marker Rubio or whoever we're elected president, that

1832
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 1: we would have the economy going like we do now

1833
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 1: or even better? Do they think we'd be seeing the

1834
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 1: uncovering of the corruption and the takedown of the deep

1835
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 1: state like we're witnessing. Thanks from Greg. You know, Greg,

1836
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:49,639
Speaker 1: it's a very interesting question, and it's one for which

1837
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 1: there can't be a definitive answer. Right. We know that

1838
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 1: there's there's nothing that we can do to prove what

1839
01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 1: did not. We can't prove a historical negative. We can

1840
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 1: prove what would have been had another Republican been able

1841
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:08,200
Speaker 1: to defeat Hillary Clinton. I will say this, tax cuts,

1842
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:10,639
Speaker 1: such as they have been pushed forward by the GOP

1843
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:15,120
Speaker 1: thus far, that's pretty mainstream, pretty standard go Op stuff.

1844
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:20,480
Speaker 1: That's not it's not really anything that's uh shaking things,

1845
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:22,800
Speaker 1: shaking things up too much, you know, it's not really

1846
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 1: changing things up from what we would expect from the GOP.

1847
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:31,679
Speaker 1: And I think the tax cuts are pretty much right

1848
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:37,240
Speaker 1: in the center of the Republican parties mantra. So you

1849
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:40,120
Speaker 1: got that as where whether we there be other things

1850
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:43,879
Speaker 1: going on, I don't know, you know, whether other things

1851
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 1: necessarily would be different, better, the same tough to say.

1852
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:53,560
Speaker 1: I I mean, you certainly wouldn't have the media operating

1853
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:57,559
Speaker 1: like it does right now. So yeah, I just I

1854
01:49:57,600 --> 01:50:00,360
Speaker 1: think that the the part of this that's definitely different

1855
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 1: is the way that Trump has exposed the media and

1856
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:07,760
Speaker 1: the the true depths. Look, we know, we've known that

1857
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 1: the media is biased for a very long time now.

1858
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 1: I grew up in an environment where because of the

1859
01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:16,519
Speaker 1: Internet and talk radio, there was finally a CounterPunch and

1860
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:18,800
Speaker 1: there was a counter argument that was out there, and

1861
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:20,880
Speaker 1: the rise of Fox News to become the number one

1862
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:25,680
Speaker 1: cable network. But you know, you knew the media was

1863
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 1: Democrat was left. You didn't know that they were hysterical

1864
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:34,640
Speaker 1: about it. You didn't know that they were unable to

1865
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:37,320
Speaker 1: keep their grip on reality when you would have a

1866
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 1: new kind of president and new presidency where their power

1867
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 1: no longer was what they thought it was. So that's

1868
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:47,560
Speaker 1: something that I think is very very different about the

1869
01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 1: Trump administration from what you would have seen in any

1870
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 1: other administration. And then we could also we could continue

1871
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 1: this could be an all night discussion. How is Trump

1872
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 1: different from how other presidents would have been? Uh, name

1873
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:02,479
Speaker 1: name something. Really, there's a lot of stuff that is

1874
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:05,719
Speaker 1: different about Trump. But I'm one of the first. Oh

1875
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 1: I'm not the first to say this, but I'm I'm

1876
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:13,559
Speaker 1: free in admitting that he has exceeded my expectations so far.

1877
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:17,160
Speaker 1: And I've thinking he's doing a really, really good job.

1878
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 1: And I just also do love what so many others

1879
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 1: saw early on, and uh, that is that Trump was

1880
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:29,559
Speaker 1: going to be the greatest irritant to the American left,

1881
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:33,559
Speaker 1: certainly since Reagan. I mean, nothing bothers them as much

1882
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 1: as Trump. And that's that's worth a lot. There's there's

1883
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 1: a currency to that, there's value to that, all right.

1884
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 1: Next one, we have Bob, who writes its been a

1885
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 1: while since I saw a movie in theater. I saw

1886
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:51,840
Speaker 1: one on Tuesday, twelve Strong. Highly recommend for Team Buck

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01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 1: Shields high. Thank you, Bob. I want to see twelve

1888
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 1: Strong too. I tend not to say that I'm going

1889
01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 1: to see something in the theater, because it's usually it's

1890
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 1: not that I am intentionally lying about it, but I

1891
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 1: find myself saying, oh, wait till it's on demand, and

1892
01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 1: I'll wait till I can buy it and watch it

1893
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 1: at home. My couch is very large, very comfortable. It's

1894
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:16,080
Speaker 1: not not not much to look at, but man, I

1895
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 1: mean it could. It could comfortably sleep to maybe three,

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01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 1: and the couch is just a sanctuary. I've got a

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01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:25,599
Speaker 1: big flat screen on the wall, and it's just there's

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01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 1: no movie theater that I can compare. I just don't

1899
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:30,680
Speaker 1: know what else to say. I wish, I wish I

1900
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 1: was somebody that still got excited about like standing in

1901
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:36,120
Speaker 1: a ticket line and paying eight dollars for a bunch

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Speaker 1: of popcorn. And Nope, I'm I'm a watch it at

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Speaker 1: home guy now and and increasingly I really I Some

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Speaker 1: people I know watch cable so that they have sports,

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Speaker 1: live sports. That's the big advantage of that's the big

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01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 1: draw for them. I basically watched now on demand stuff,

1907
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 1: and then I watched news for on the cable. That's

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01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 1: it that I don't. I don't really watch cable TV

1909
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:04,439
Speaker 1: other than that. So you know, my my habits have

1910
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 1: been changing with us over time. I remember going to

1911
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Speaker 1: the movies, my brothers, my dad, my mom, you know,

1912
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Speaker 1: my sister. Back in the day, we'd all we'd all

1913
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Speaker 1: go see movies as a family. Now, I think if

1914
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 1: the six of us were all adults now, but if

1915
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:16,799
Speaker 1: the six of us tried to go see a movie

1916
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Speaker 1: in New York City, I'm just realizing this is crazy.

1917
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Speaker 1: I think about it would cost a hundred bucks. It

1918
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Speaker 1: would cost a hundred dollars for us to see a

1919
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Speaker 1: movie in New York. Tickets for movies here are like

1920
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 1: seventeen or eighteen dollars, and there's six of us, and

1921
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:32,360
Speaker 1: then you know, I had a little popcorn and some

1922
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:34,840
Speaker 1: soda and you're at a hundred dollars to see a movie.

1923
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 1: That is just when you can own it or or

1924
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 1: you can download it and watch it at home for

1925
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:43,800
Speaker 1: like seven usually maybe ten something like that. So I

1926
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Speaker 1: but I will see the The twelve Strong because that's

1927
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Speaker 1: a very important story. I want to check it out.

1928
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Speaker 1: Amy next next one app here on Keep One to

1929
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Speaker 1: see Team Buck speaks on Roll Call, Hey Buck Shields

1930
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Speaker 1: high question. Remember when the Obama is ration Surverill reporters

1931
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Speaker 1: like Rosen and his parents. Whatever happened with this, How

1932
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Speaker 1: does this time to surveillance of Trump, of the Trump campaign?

1933
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:09,760
Speaker 1: How rampant was this surveillance abuse? What does it say

1934
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Speaker 1: about corruption the FBI? Well, Amy, it's uh, it's kind

1935
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Speaker 1: of complicated. It's very different. It wasn't a FISA warrant

1936
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Speaker 1: with Rosen. It was just a typical criminal warrant. What

1937
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Speaker 1: they did was they they broke an unspoken agreement with

1938
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Speaker 1: the media that they won't use criminal proceedings against journalists

1939
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Speaker 1: to find the leakers. The administration said, you know what,

1940
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Speaker 1: We're gonna find the leaker, and we're gonna do that

1941
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Speaker 1: by going after journalists records. And I know that's what

1942
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Speaker 1: they did with the Associated Press, and I believe that's

1943
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Speaker 1: what they did with Rosen as well, though I'd have

1944
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Speaker 1: to familiarize myself with that case. Again. That's gonna be

1945
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