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<v Speaker 1>kill a yak from two hundred yards away with mind bullets?

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<v Speaker 1>That's telekinesis Kyle. That is a first. We have never

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do it anyway. And there's a reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I quoted that, but we'll get into that first. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into why we're going to do this episode. This

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<v Speaker 1>comes to us courtesy of a Google Plus suggestion. This

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<v Speaker 1>suggestion comes to us from Mary who, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>a long with lots of different suggestions, but starts off

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<v Speaker 1>with you may be interested to know. I, for one,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not tech savvy, at least compared to the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>of early adopter types here on Google Plus. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>rhetoric major. Should have graduated when I was twenty, but

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<v Speaker 1>in one class short of might be a for financial

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<v Speaker 1>slash academic red tape reasons with miners in French and

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<v Speaker 1>German guten tag. Mary. Aside from being a pro vocalist,

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<v Speaker 1>my real job is teaching English to disadvantaged and academically

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<v Speaker 1>struggling eighth graders, which is amazing. I also t aid

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<v Speaker 1>college level rhet comp to and have private students tutoring clients,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly college students, some high school, a few middle school

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<v Speaker 1>primarily seeing me for writing instruction or literary interpretation analysis

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<v Speaker 1>and historical analysis with embusses on reading comprehension. Apparently I

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<v Speaker 1>need to take that at any rate. Mary then goes

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<v Speaker 1>on to give several suggestions, the last of which is finally,

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<v Speaker 1>more music stuff for those of us who missed the

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<v Speaker 1>B side. R I P programs like able to end

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<v Speaker 1>pro tools, HD electronics like dB Thereman, and the very

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<v Speaker 1>awesome react table you can see on YouTube worthy of

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<v Speaker 1>its own podcast. While all of that is true. We

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<v Speaker 1>are going to do a Theoreman podcast, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff from the Beast. I did one as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're really gonna dive down and talk about with Thereman.

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<v Speaker 1>It's history, how it works, uh, and you know the

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<v Speaker 1>what's the basis behind It's pretty interesting stuff. And as

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<v Speaker 1>I said, the song I quoted at the beginning actually

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<v Speaker 1>does feature a thereman. Oh so and and uh, just

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<v Speaker 1>to help people who want to learn more about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff we're talking about today on how stuff works.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have how Thereman's work yet, although I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe it's actually gone out as an assignment. We do

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<v Speaker 1>have how amplifiers work, and that's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>very important part of our conversation at some point. We

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<v Speaker 1>do have an article on the Thereman however, Yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>do have articles on the Thereman, just not one that

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<v Speaker 1>specifically breaks down how it works. Yet. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think by the time this podcast goes live, we

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<v Speaker 1>me that may have changed. But I know that there

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<v Speaker 1>is an assignment out there somewhere, floating out in the ether.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not me. I'm not the one writing it so

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<v Speaker 1>or at least it hasn't been assigned to me. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's start talking about the history here. You wanted to,

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<v Speaker 1>uh talk about our buddy Leo Leon Thereman actually Lev Sergeyevitch,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a scientist and inventor. UM. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>little information about Mr Thereman from Britannica, always a good

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<v Speaker 1>source for the biographical on these inventors. Um. He lived

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<v Speaker 1>in uh in St. Petersburg and uh Florida, Russia. He

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<v Speaker 1>was well, he was born there in and died in

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<v Speaker 1>in Moscow, Florida, No, North Dakota, uh in nineteen I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if there is a Moscow anyway. UM. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny that you would say out of the ether

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<v Speaker 1>because the original name for this device was the ether

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<v Speaker 1>a phone, but it was later renamed to be the Thereman,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, basically it's it's known for the way you

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<v Speaker 1>play it. Unlike pretty much every other kind of instrument

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<v Speaker 1>I can think of where you actually need to touch

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<v Speaker 1>it to do this, the Thereman you specifically do not touch. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew a lot of people who have that same policy.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, no, you're you're that's absolutely correct. Therriman has

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<v Speaker 1>played without touching it, yep, and he actually played it

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<v Speaker 1>for for Lenin in nineteen twenty two and and for

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<v Speaker 1>Albert Einstein in and UM patented the instrument in in

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<v Speaker 1>New York. UM and then he went into a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other stuff. He uh tried to work on other

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<v Speaker 1>musical instruments and UH worked on an electronic security system

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<v Speaker 1>for prisons. UM ended up in a Siberian labor camp

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<v Speaker 1>in the Soviet Union. Certainly not yeah, Uh he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He did work did some work for a in a

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<v Speaker 1>military lab during World War Two where he was working

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<v Speaker 1>on UH naval tracking systems and remote controls UM and

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<v Speaker 1>even on spy technology and eavesdropping device for the KGB. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He he got the Stalin Prize for that. UM. Smart

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<v Speaker 1>guy is what we're talking about here. Yeah. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>became a professor of acoustics at the Moscow Conservatory. UM

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<v Speaker 1>and UH, you know, had done a lot of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different kinds of electronics work. So certainly, UH

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<v Speaker 1>a very interesting person. But you know, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably best known. I don't think anyone argue that he's

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<v Speaker 1>best known for the ether phone, I mean the Thereman. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>since it does, since it does actually bear his name,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least the Western version of his name, and

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<v Speaker 1>before we go any further, I think it might might

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<v Speaker 1>behoove us to to have a little a little listen

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<v Speaker 1>to to what a thereman sounds like. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>the sound of the theoreman. Now, listeners may have recognized

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<v Speaker 1>that from various songs, and really, I think, I think

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<v Speaker 1>what that always reminds me of is all all those

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<v Speaker 1>like nineteen fifties science fiction films and TV series that

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<v Speaker 1>either used a thereman or use some sort of other

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<v Speaker 1>effect to create a thereman like sound as part of

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<v Speaker 1>the soundtrack. Because not everything that that sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>thereman is in fact a thereman. In fact, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most famous songs that people tend to say had

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<v Speaker 1>a thereman and it did not is Good Vibrations by

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<v Speaker 1>the Beach Boys. Almost said Beastie Boys. This is that's

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had enough coffee. Good Vibrations by the Beastie Boys,

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<v Speaker 1>And that would have been hilarious and wrong. But anyway, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not that's not a theoreman used in that song.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a totally different instrument. Actually, it's called

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<v Speaker 1>tannerin although I mean it does it does have a

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<v Speaker 1>similar sound to it, but you actually do play that

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<v Speaker 1>by touching you slide your finger on it, and depending

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<v Speaker 1>on where you're touching it, it it you know, produces a

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<v Speaker 1>different sound. And if you were to look at a

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<v Speaker 1>theorem and you would immediately see that the I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the most notable feature is that it's you know, depending

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<v Speaker 1>upon the design of it, it's gonna look like some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a box. But from that box, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see a pair of antenna and one Traditionally, one

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<v Speaker 1>antenna is vertical aligned to the box, so it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>up and down, and then a second antenna seems to

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<v Speaker 1>is to come out the side of the box. It's

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<v Speaker 1>horizontal and it's in a loop. And using your hands

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<v Speaker 1>moving them close to and further away those antenna that's

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<v Speaker 1>what controls the sound that comes out of the theoreman. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you uh, you know, it's always good to adjust it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit to the left, you know, get the

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<v Speaker 1>get the picture just right right. Oh wait, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking of a different kind of antenna. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, it's not a rabbit ears um. Yeah. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good point. We should mention that this is

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<v Speaker 1>these antenna are not designed to pick up any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of radio frequency. That's not the purpose of the antenna.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into that when we start getting into the actual,

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<v Speaker 1>uh ways that the the theoreman works. So do you

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<v Speaker 1>said you wanted to talk a little bit at one

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<v Speaker 1>point about songs that you may have heard or perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>even other ways that you may have heard a thereman. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was an early subscriber to XM Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>the satellite radio service here in the United States, and

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<v Speaker 1>they used to have a channel called Special X where

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<v Speaker 1>they would play all kinds of strange and unusual things.

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<v Speaker 1>And they actually had, believe it or not, a whole

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<v Speaker 1>show devoted to music from the Theoreman. And so they

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<v Speaker 1>were all these and again you're right, period records from

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<v Speaker 1>like the fifties and stuff where there were uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thereman songs that they were playing entire pieces on the theorem.

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<v Speaker 1>And and actually you could find a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on on YouTube. I've seen people, I've seen theremin orchestras, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>where there are different people playing songs and they have

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<v Speaker 1>different parts. So everybody's got a different purpose of doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it sounds kind of random when you just

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<v Speaker 1>hear these sections and segments and other songs and pop

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<v Speaker 1>songs and things like that. But you you know, people

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually play this as a musical instrument. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I've I've heard a lot of that kind of stuff. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of something specific. You have a

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<v Speaker 1>favorite thereman song other than the one that you quoted before,

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<v Speaker 1>other than the one I quoted before, and not really um,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are other songs that have used it. They

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<v Speaker 1>are actually uh, like I said, it's for me. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I think about are all those those like

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<v Speaker 1>The Day the Earth Stood Still, That would be a

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<v Speaker 1>famous film that used a thereman as a sound effect. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>There there was a theremin used at least in some

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<v Speaker 1>versions of the theme to Star Trek, although most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time that was actually a vocalist who did that effect.

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<v Speaker 1>But I believe in in one or two versions of

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<v Speaker 1>that you can hear a theremin being used. Um. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there are bands that experiment and they'll throw

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<v Speaker 1>that in the mix, and it may even be that

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a minor part of the song where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not meant to take the forefront of the melody

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. It's just another another layer of

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<v Speaker 1>complexity within a song itself. Uh So I guess we

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<v Speaker 1>can now talk about what a theoreman does, like how

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<v Speaker 1>does it make that sound? Like why is it that

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<v Speaker 1>when you put your hand closer to or further away

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<v Speaker 1>from one intend it changes the pitch and the other

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<v Speaker 1>one controls the volume. That's by the way, the vertical

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<v Speaker 1>one is the pitch antenna and the horizontal one is

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<v Speaker 1>the volume antenna. Awesome, Actually it's uh it's funny because uh,

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<v Speaker 1>typically you think of making music with an instrument as

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to sound as clear as possible. Um, But

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<v Speaker 1>in the opportunity to play a thereman, you'll realize that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually all about creating interference because these uh, these

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<v Speaker 1>antennae um actually have an electromagnetic field that and you're

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<v Speaker 1>interfering with that by coming closer and moving farther away

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<v Speaker 1>to different degrees. So really what's what you're hearing is

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<v Speaker 1>the sound of the interference with the machine. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually to to dive down into this. The way this

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<v Speaker 1>works is that you've got coils of wire inside the

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<v Speaker 1>theorem and that are generating electromagnetic field and that is

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<v Speaker 1>propagated along the antenna and so with the case of

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<v Speaker 1>the pitch antenna, you have two different um UH like

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<v Speaker 1>two different oscillators creating this electromagnetic field. One of them

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<v Speaker 1>is a steady frequency, the other one's variable frequency, and

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<v Speaker 1>the variable frequency all depends upon your hand coming into

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<v Speaker 1>contact with or not contact but coming closer or or

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<v Speaker 1>moving further away from the pitch antenna. UH. What will

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<v Speaker 1>happen then is that the frequencies from these two different

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<v Speaker 1>UH oscillators will mix. And this is a process that

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<v Speaker 1>we call heterodyning. And heterodyning is you you process these

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<v Speaker 1>these signals and you take UH. Typically you can get

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<v Speaker 1>lots of different um um results from combining signals, but

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<v Speaker 1>typically you look at the sum and the difference and

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<v Speaker 1>UH you choose, you filter one out and you focus

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<v Speaker 1>on the other. And in this case, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the difference because the the frequencies that are generated by

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<v Speaker 1>these oscillators are too high for human here. But the

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<v Speaker 1>difference is not um. So if you are creating a

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<v Speaker 1>variation in one frequency and the other frequency is remaining

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<v Speaker 1>constant UH, when you take the difference of that and

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<v Speaker 1>you take that signal, that signal is then within the

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<v Speaker 1>range of human hearing, and because you've got that one

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<v Speaker 1>variable frequency, you can change the pitch. So and it

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<v Speaker 1>all has to do with, of course, the capacitance that

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<v Speaker 1>we have. You know, human beings, we have a capacitance,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh it's really most mostly based on body mass.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, there's another interesting point is that if you

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<v Speaker 1>have two different people playing the same theraman, they're going

0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.320
<v Speaker 1>to quickly find out like to let's say, take one

0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:44.000
<v Speaker 1>tiny little person and one huge person. So you've got

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<v Speaker 1>ham hands and you've got little dainty fingers. Little dainty

0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.480
<v Speaker 1>fingers comes up there and starts playing with theraman and

0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.760
<v Speaker 1>realizes that when they when their dainty fingers get within

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<v Speaker 1>a certain distance of the antenna, a particular pitch is played.

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<v Speaker 1>Then ham hands comes up and starts to play, and

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<v Speaker 1>then realizes very quickly that it's a different distance for

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<v Speaker 1>ham hands to get to that intended to make that

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<v Speaker 1>same pitch. And it has to do with the mass

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<v Speaker 1>of the of of ham hands. So uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's two people playing the same thereman are going to

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<v Speaker 1>find out that they can't mimic one another's motions and

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<v Speaker 1>get the exact same sound. It's going to be different

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<v Speaker 1>based upon the actual size of the musician and all.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, that all has to do with the

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<v Speaker 1>capacitance that we as humans actually have ourselves. So we

0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.480
<v Speaker 1>interfere with that electromagnetic field. The frequencies combine in the

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<v Speaker 1>heterodyning process as I've said, as I mentioned, we filter

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<v Speaker 1>out the sum. We take the difference of those two frequencies, UH,

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<v Speaker 1>and that signal is what creates the pitch. Now, even

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<v Speaker 1>though it's within the range of human hearing, UH, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't really hear it very well unless you put it

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<v Speaker 1>through an amplification process, which we'll have to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>in a second. And the second antenna, the volume antenna,

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<v Speaker 1>really just has the one oscillator and then there's a

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<v Speaker 1>steady UH voltage being applied further in. And what happens

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<v Speaker 1>is when you move your hand closer to that antenna,

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<v Speaker 1>you are interrupting the first the signal from the first oscillator,

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<v Speaker 1>that electromagnetic field. And as you interrupt that electromanetic magnetic field,

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<v Speaker 1>the signal becomes weaker, which ends up being a control

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<v Speaker 1>on the volume. So, in other words, the closer your

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<v Speaker 1>hand gets to that second antenna, the quieter the sound

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<v Speaker 1>will be. You might think that you know, you would

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<v Speaker 1>want to get your hand closer to make the sound

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<v Speaker 1>go up, but it's exactly the opposite. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>put your hand close to the antenna, the sound is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be very low. And as you take your

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<v Speaker 1>hand away from that antenna, the horizontal antenna, the volume increases,

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<v Speaker 1>so the pitch will remain the same, assuming that your

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<v Speaker 1>other hand is is steady. And and also I should

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<v Speaker 1>mention when you watch people play the theremin, especially people

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<v Speaker 1>who have just started to play, you might notice them

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<v Speaker 1>moving their hands up and down the the length of

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<v Speaker 1>the vertical antenna. That really doesn't have much of an effect.

0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.479
<v Speaker 1>It can change the pitch a little bit, but the

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<v Speaker 1>real change and pitch has to do with the distance

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<v Speaker 1>from the antenna. So you can keep your hands steady

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<v Speaker 1>at the same level respective to the vertical antenna and

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<v Speaker 1>just change the the distance your hand is from that antenna,

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<v Speaker 1>and that would change the pitch. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>move your hand up and down the length of the

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<v Speaker 1>antenna in order to change it, because you really need

0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:33.920
<v Speaker 1>both hands to operate them. Well, yeah, because you have to,

0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, because otherwise you would just have a steady

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<v Speaker 1>volume time, right, So you need you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to uh, you know, have both hands free to

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<v Speaker 1>operate the Theoreman's you know, both the pitch and the volume. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think it can also depend not

0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:54.040
<v Speaker 1>only on the person, but on the instrument itself. So sure,

0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.600
<v Speaker 1>yeah you can. You can actually tune a thereman as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And that that all has to do with the electronics

0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:03.119
<v Speaker 1>that are inside the thereman, because depending upon the electronic

0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:06.640
<v Speaker 1>components you've put in there and the the frequency difference

0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:11.439
<v Speaker 1>between the variable frequency and the steady frequency, uh, you

0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you will have a certain octave range that that thereman

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<v Speaker 1>is capable of playing and uh and sometimes that octave

0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:22.639
<v Speaker 1>range can be quite uh large, very large range. But

0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.000
<v Speaker 1>that means that you have to have even more control

0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:28.359
<v Speaker 1>when you're playing it. Uh, that that tiny changes in

0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.200
<v Speaker 1>the distance between your hand and the antenna will result

0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:34.439
<v Speaker 1>in fairly significant changes in pitch. Which is why the

0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.840
<v Speaker 1>thereman is one of those instruments that's you know, you

0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.760
<v Speaker 1>can step right up and start playing it uh and

0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.000
<v Speaker 1>have fun making weird noises, but if you want to

0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:45.280
<v Speaker 1>be able to actually play a tune with with regularity,

0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.120
<v Speaker 1>it takes a lot of practice. It's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>really difficult to masterpieces. And uh actually have a list

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<v Speaker 1>of some of the components that are in a typical thereman,

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<v Speaker 1>if you would like to hear. Sure. Okay, so we've

0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:00.160
<v Speaker 1>got the two antenna. As I mentioned before, the the

0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.399
<v Speaker 1>volume antenna is actually a loop. It looks like a

0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.480
<v Speaker 1>semicircle that's attached to the horizontal side, one of the

0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:11.040
<v Speaker 1>horizontal sides of the theraman itself. There. The reason for

0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:15.359
<v Speaker 1>that design is that the old thermans were all based

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<v Speaker 1>on vacuum tube technology, is before solid state technology was

0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:24.959
<v Speaker 1>really a thing at all. The first Theraman and so um.

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<v Speaker 1>In order to be able to make this antenna and

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<v Speaker 1>have it fit with the old system, you actually had

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<v Speaker 1>to create this loop so that you had the right

0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:38.199
<v Speaker 1>antenna length without interfering with the other electronic components of

0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the device. So even though we've reached a point now

0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:45.720
<v Speaker 1>where most modern theramans still use vacuum tubes at least

0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:50.040
<v Speaker 1>in some capacity, and we'll talk about that a little bit, hey,

0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.320
<v Speaker 1>But Chris, I'm sure we'll have something to say about

0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:56.160
<v Speaker 1>using vacuum tubes as opposed to solid state. Being the musician,

0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:58.679
<v Speaker 1>you would you would know more about this than I do.

0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.480
<v Speaker 1>But in general has to do with sound quality. So

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<v Speaker 1>there are still vacuum tubes used in most modern theramins,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also involve some solid state electronic components now,

0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.000
<v Speaker 1>which means that you no longer would have to do

0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.760
<v Speaker 1>that loop UH to achieve the same effect. But I

0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:14.840
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of a lot of theramin designers like

0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.600
<v Speaker 1>to use it anyway, just kind of as a throwback

0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.200
<v Speaker 1>to the original theoreman So it's almost like it's almost

0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:25.080
<v Speaker 1>like a traditional thing at this point. UM. So inside

0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:29.040
<v Speaker 1>the theremin, you're going to find typically a pair of chassis.

0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:33.199
<v Speaker 1>One chassis is gonna be for your electromagnetic components, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is where this is what generates that electromagnetic field

0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:39.800
<v Speaker 1>for both of the antenna UM. You would normally find

0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:43.240
<v Speaker 1>three oscillators in there. You would find two oscillators for

0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the pitch, one oscillator for the volume UH. The this

0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:50.040
<v Speaker 1>chassis often called an upper chassis, and a lot of

0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.399
<v Speaker 1>the theramans I've looked at UH is has to be

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<v Speaker 1>separated from the other chassis which has the amplification and

0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Speaker 1>power UH elements to it, because otherwise the electromagnetic field

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.520
<v Speaker 1>would interfere with the operation of those elements. All right,

0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:06.720
<v Speaker 1>So the lower chassis where you get the power coming

0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:11.560
<v Speaker 1>into the device. Uh, and you have the amplification oscillators

0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:16.159
<v Speaker 1>and usually we use triodes and that you probably have

0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:19.160
<v Speaker 1>heard of diodes. Diodes, of course, are those electronic components

0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:21.880
<v Speaker 1>that allow electrons to pass through one way but not

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.160
<v Speaker 1>back yet. It's a one way lane. It allows electron

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:30.040
<v Speaker 1>uh flow in one direction only. Triads are a little different.

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<v Speaker 1>Triads are well, it's a kind of vacuum tube and

0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and from a superficial level, they resemble a light bulb.

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<v Speaker 1>And the way a triode works is that there are

0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:44.720
<v Speaker 1>typically three elements within a triode, which makes sense when

0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:47.720
<v Speaker 1>you hear the name. You've got the cathode, which is

0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:51.359
<v Speaker 1>the part of the triad that that will shed electrons.

0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:55.000
<v Speaker 1>You've got a grid of some sort that will control

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the flow of electrons. It kind of acts as like

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<v Speaker 1>a gate in a way. Then you have the anode,

0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:03.520
<v Speaker 1>which is where the electrons want to get too, because

0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:05.760
<v Speaker 1>it has a positive charge. Now remember electrons have a

0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:10.000
<v Speaker 1>negative charge, so negative wants to be attracted. It is

0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:12.719
<v Speaker 1>attracted to positive. So you have a positive element on

0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:14.840
<v Speaker 1>one side, a negative element on another side, and a

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.320
<v Speaker 1>gate in the middle to control the flow. And that's

0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:22.119
<v Speaker 1>the basis behind um the triode. Now, in order to

0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:24.639
<v Speaker 1>control the flow of electrons, what you have to do

0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:28.520
<v Speaker 1>is you hook up that gate to a source of electricity.

0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:31.440
<v Speaker 1>All right. Now, if you're generating electricity and you're you're

0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:34.520
<v Speaker 1>putting a current through that gate, that means you're putting

0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:37.520
<v Speaker 1>negative electrons through the gate. Now that's gonna repel the

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.040
<v Speaker 1>electrons coming out of the cathode. All right, So you've

0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:42.159
<v Speaker 1>got the cathode. Let's imagine that the cathodes on the

0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:44.680
<v Speaker 1>left hand side, and in the middle is this gate

0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:46.760
<v Speaker 1>that has electrons running through it, and on the right

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:50.439
<v Speaker 1>you have the anode. Now, the the current that you're

0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:52.880
<v Speaker 1>putting through that gate is going to vary because that's

0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:56.520
<v Speaker 1>your input. That's that's the signal that's going into like

0:22:56.560 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 1>when you're making a sound electronically speaking into a microphone

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:04.360
<v Speaker 1>or playing a musical instrument that's plugged into this amplifier.

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:08.680
<v Speaker 1>So it's a variable frequency again, a variable current and

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:10.800
<v Speaker 1>uh and so sometimes the current is going to be

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:13.400
<v Speaker 1>is going to allow a certain number of electrons through

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.360
<v Speaker 1>because there's you know, as you build up the uh,

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.359
<v Speaker 1>the charge on the cathode side. Some electrons are going

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:21.120
<v Speaker 1>to pass through that gate is going to be strong

0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:23.800
<v Speaker 1>enough energy for it to go through the gate. Other

0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.359
<v Speaker 1>times the the signal is going to be lower. It's

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:29.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna allow more electrons through. That's the whole basis of

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the amplifier. So the cathode looks like a filament. You

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 1>have to in order to make electrons shed, you have

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.840
<v Speaker 1>to add energy into this system. So and this is

0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:43.280
<v Speaker 1>a rather than the variable source which is what we

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:47.879
<v Speaker 1>see in the gate, this is a steady power source

0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:51.200
<v Speaker 1>that's going into the cathode. So it heats up this filament,

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 1>which gives off light. Depending upon what kind of vacuum

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:56.680
<v Speaker 1>tube it is, it may be a different color, like

0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them are kind of an orange ish color.

0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 1>If you're talking about a vacuum tube for like a

0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 1>big power system, it tends to burn white hot. But

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 1>that's when it starts to shed thousands and thousands of electrons.

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 1>The energy from the electricity is is enough to break

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 1>the electrons free from their shells and then they will

0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:20.639
<v Speaker 1>go toward the positively charged anode. So that is the

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 1>basis of you just got a it's like a podcast

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:26.359
<v Speaker 1>within a podcast that was a basic electronics of what

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 1>a triode is and what it does, or really vacuum

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:32.159
<v Speaker 1>tubes in general, Although there are other kinds of vacuum

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:34.920
<v Speaker 1>tubes besides triots, they're not it's not a one to

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>one you know. Tryout is just one type of vacuum tube,

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:39.920
<v Speaker 1>all right. So you've got several of those in their

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:44.120
<v Speaker 1>acting as amplifiers, UM. And then you've also got your

0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>your power source, you've got your capacitors, you've got resistors UM.

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 1>And then you've got the antenna. I've already spoken about

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:57.200
<v Speaker 1>those as well. And the copper coils which generate the

0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic field. Those are your basic component that all together

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 1>make up the guts of the thereman and there Actually,

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I've seen videos online that kind of give an overall

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>view of how to build a thereman, and they're also

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:13.920
<v Speaker 1>a theremin kits out there if you want to try

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>and make your own. Um, it's an interesting project, I understand.

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 1>Like even the guy who was I was watching these videos,

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the guy who builds the theorem and actually said, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I can build them, but I can't play them. So

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<v Speaker 1>he said he loves he enjoys building them, and he

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<v Speaker 1>tends to build them for other people like like bands

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and stuff that are interested in using the thereman. Well, Um,

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 1>anyone interested in in playing the thereman should check out

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 1>an article that Jane mcgrathrope for the website called how

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<v Speaker 1>to play a theoreman Um and she actually quoted some

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 1>of the people who are well known theoreminists dereminist derman players, deremanators.

0:25:53.640 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 1>They come from the future. It's terrible, Sarah uh. Lydia

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>cavina is one. Uh. She actually studied under Leon theoreman

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 1>um and basically had suggested that it's good to keep

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:14.360
<v Speaker 1>your feet about a foot apart zero point three meters UM.

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:18.359
<v Speaker 1>But it really depends on the theoremin and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and how far you want to stand away from it,

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>and of course, as you mentioned, the capacitance of the

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 1>person playing it um. But generally depending on the number

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 1>of octaves available um in that theoreman, I mean the

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 1>the range of the theoremin. Uh. You might have to

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:40.919
<v Speaker 1>stand farther away if it has a greater range um,

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>according to uh um Miss cavina Um. Also uh, apparently

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:51.239
<v Speaker 1>you can actually tune the device yourself by putting your

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<v Speaker 1>right hand at your shoulder or I guess your left

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>hand depending on how you're playing it, So you start

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:57.720
<v Speaker 1>with your hand at your shoulder regardless, um and then

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:01.120
<v Speaker 1>just uh she said the ideas you need to play

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the song slowly when you're getting started, because, UM, it

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>takes a while to get used to uh controlling the

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:13.119
<v Speaker 1>pitch that you're trying to to make if you're actually

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:17.399
<v Speaker 1>trying to play a song and melody with it. Um

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>and uh Clara Rockmore another person that um Jane quoted

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>in her article and basically said that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be very conscious of what you're doing with your body. Um.

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, as a percussionist, I tend to uh groove

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, you know, start getting into it and

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>bobbing and getting into the motion. Uh. That can affect

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the way you're playing because the theramin is uh going

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>by your body movement and how close you are to it.

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:47.880
<v Speaker 1>So anything any other stray movement is going to affect

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.199
<v Speaker 1>the sound coming out of the theramin. So you have

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 1>to be very careful, um, and you have to be

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 1>very conscious of what you're doing when you're when you're

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to play that you know, posture and and uh

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>stray movements and affect it. It's a lot different from

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>saying a guitar where you have a string that, assuming

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 1>it's properly tuned, when you play that string while pressing

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 1>down at a certain fret, it's always going to produce

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the same note, right. Uh, there's there's no variation there.

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:20.959
<v Speaker 1>But with a thereman, it's all about the distance between

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you and the antenna and uh, and and not and

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and again your your body mass. So while two different

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>people can pick up the same guitar and play the

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>same series of notes just following the same threats, that

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't necessarily be the same story if they were trying

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>to play a thereman and standing at the same distance

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>from the device. Just pretty interesting to me. Um. You know,

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I had mentioned also about the amplifiers using vacuum tubes

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and that that tends to be a preference. Would you

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>like to to weigh in a little bit as a

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 1>musician about that, Well, you know it, it kind of

0:28:57.160 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>depends on the sound you're getting, you know. Um, most

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>of the musicians and I rarely talk to people about

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>using a theraman in a band, but I mean vacuum

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>tubes and amplifiers in general, vacuum tubes. Most of what

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I've heard people say is that they feel that vacuum

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>tubes produce a warmer sound, which is the yeah, and

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>again it's it's really in the ear of the listener.

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, you might say that solid state produces

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>a flatter sound. And these are all terms that don't

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>really have a way of it's hard to it's hard

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>to put it in a measurable sense, but it is.

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>It is one of those things that when you start

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:36.479
<v Speaker 1>listening to it, you say, you know what that does?

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>It just sounds better? Yeah, you know. And uh. And

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>even today, a lot of apps out there for various

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 1>musical instruments, not just the one, not just the amplifiers

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>that you'll find in Theraman, still use vacuum tubes, even

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 1>though the technology otherwise has almost disappeared. Solid state era. Yeah,

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>well solid state too. I mean, you turn on a

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>solid state device, amplifier whatever, um, it's going to be

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>on a lot quicker up. Yeah, and a vacuum tube

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>device will um and you can and you could see

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>it too, if you have, if you could see through

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 1>like I have. For example, I have a vacuum tube

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>amplifier and a solid state amplifier. Um, you turn it

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>on and at first the vacuum tubes, you know, look

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 1>as though they are you know, they would win the

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>devices off, and then they start to glow and you

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>could see that things are coming on and you could

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.719
<v Speaker 1>turn on a source of sound, say, you know, uh,

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>turntable or a tune or radio tuner, and at first

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>you won't hear anything, and as the vacuum tubes warm up,

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, the amplifier will begin to play the music

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>because they're actually coming online, but it takes them a while.

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Um makes me think of the the beginning of the

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>documentary Back to the Future. Yeah, turning on all the apps, Yeah, documentary,

0:30:55.600 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, but uh yeah, I mean it's it's funny though, because, um,

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>it's sort of like vinyl for a lot of musicians too,

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 1>because for you know, the vacuum tube manufacturers almost became

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>extinct and as time is worn on and people have said,

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I really like the way that that works.

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I like the sound that I get from vacuum tube amps,

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>or you know, I had this other thing that uses

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>vacuum tubes and I really like it. I actually have

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 1>a Hammond organ that uses um vacuum tubes too, and

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, without some manufacturer, you know, so these things

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>have have stayed in production, even though solid state for

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 1>a while, it looked like it was going to you know,

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>knock it out. But yeah, and just like uh, just

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>like an incandescent light bulb, vacuum tubes will eventually burn out. Yes,

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 1>they will it. Uh. I mean it's it's not going

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 1>to be super fast or anything. But that's why it's

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>important that these industries still exist because otherwise we would

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>have a finite number that and once we got to

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>the end of it, that would be it. Yeah, so

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I guess we should be thankful for devices like the

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>theremin and guitar amplifiers for keeping a a what what

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>otherwise people might say, an absolute technology alive and kicking. Anyway,

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 1>that that pretty much wraps up this discussion on the

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 1>thereman and what it is and how it does what

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:17.640
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0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:20.200
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0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.480
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0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:26.960
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