1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: kicks off right now. A lot going on, so we 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 2: know yesterday when I was on the air with you, Oh, 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: Clay will in fact call us from his super secret 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 2: mission abroad this hour, So we're gonna set that up 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: for you. Clay's out for the week's traveling, but he 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: wants to tell you what he's been up to. One 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: of you might have already guessed it, which was a 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 2: pretty remarkable, remarkable thing. But he'll be joining us later on, 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: and we also have Michael Wattley joining He's running for 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: Senate North Carolina, so looking forward to that as that 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: conversation gets rolling. 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: Now. 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: Now, we had yesterday the House all voting in favor 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: of except for one guy, a Republican voting in favor 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 2: of the Epstein Transparency Act. And then we had and 18 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: last night the Senate passing the same bill unanimously. Senators 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: locked in agreement, automatically passing the bill as soon as 20 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: it came in from the House. Just looking at the 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 2: updates here. Once the President signs the bill, the Justice 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: Department has thirty days to release materials related to Jeffrey Epstein. 23 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: Now this is moving. 24 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: The President has already said that he believes this is 25 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: or that he's supportive of this. Now he has said 26 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: that he thinks this is the right move. So we're 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: going to get into what's going to happen here. It's 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: not like we're going to know all of the details 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: even for some time here. There may be further redactions 30 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: that happen, or rather that we will have to contend with, 31 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: because my sense is if the redactions are extensive enough, 32 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: then people will say that's not going to fly, that's 33 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: not good enough. There have to be more things that 34 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: are released. So that's one possibility. Another possibility is that 35 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: there's nothing massive I say massive in the information that 36 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: is released, the files, if you will, of this investigation, 37 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 2: and then people just say they hid stuff, and there's 38 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: still a clamoring for more transparency, more. Those are all 39 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: the things. Those are some of the things that I 40 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: think could come out of this. 41 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: But there was this today. 42 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: As I was preparing for our show. Here this is 43 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: cut twenty seven Pambondi, the Attorney General, referring to the 44 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: Epstein investigation as a pending investigation. Play twenty seven. 45 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 3: The issue with the new information that you just indicated, 46 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 3: are is the Department seeking information perhaps from the Epstein 47 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 3: is State because mister Blanche did not have that information 48 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: when he interviewed the Lane. Maxwell, what new information? And 49 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: would you limit the new investigation to just those named 50 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: persons that the President talked about or is this a 51 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 3: broad open ended investigation. 52 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 4: I would refer to the Deputy Attorney General's post that 53 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: he put out on X and we will We're not 54 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: going to say anything else on that because now it 55 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: is a pending investigation in the Southern District of New. 56 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: York, a pending investigation. Meanwhile, the House has demanded Epstein 57 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: financial records from JP Morgan Chase, Deutsche Bank, and the 58 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: US Virgin Islands. That's just in the last twenty four hours. 59 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 5: Now. 60 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: A few things here I can't tell you. I don't 61 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: know obviously, none of you know, no one outside of 62 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: a very small circle nose in this release that Donald Trump, 63 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: I am very confident, is going to sign the final step, 64 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: if you will, before the release. And then there's thirty days, 65 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: so we're gonna wait a bit. We're gonna wait a 66 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: bit for this information. I don't know exactly how many days, 67 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: but they have up to thirty days to release. Maybe 68 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: it'll come much faster than that. We'll see how the 69 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: bureaucracy handles this. But I sit here and I say 70 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: to myself, because you know, and the House has already 71 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: released sixty five thousand documents related to Epstein, you know 72 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: very well that I have been pounding a certain drum 73 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: on this issue of follow the money, follow the money. 74 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: It is completely unthinkable, unthinkable to me, or rather it 75 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: should be unthinkable maybe a better way of putting it, 76 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: that we do not have a full accounting of how 77 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: Epstein pulled together a fortune that was approaching a billion dollars. 78 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 2: This guy did not create some new product, He did 79 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: not found some company. He was not some hedge fun 80 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: guy running thirty billion dollars of other people's money. There 81 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: are ways you can make a billion dollars. Tax advice 82 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: is not one of them. It's just not one of them. 83 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: And so this then brings up how did he make 84 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: this money? Why is it that there were some people 85 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 2: in Epstein's orbit who were unbelievably and I mean that 86 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: in the real sense of can't believe it, unbelievably generous 87 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 2: to him. Why the money, I think is the single 88 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: best chance we have to get these answers. According to 89 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: subpoenias that were just put out by the House, JP 90 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: Morgan Chase began an internal investigation into accounts previous held 91 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: by Epstein, flagging some forty seven hundred transactions as suspicious. 92 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: Epstein held accounts and bench with the bank with Deutsche 93 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: Bank from twenty thirteen until twenty eighteen. So they're going 94 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: back in here into the money trail, and I sit 95 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: here wondering how it is. And by the way, I 96 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: want to be clear that sometimes I will ask questions 97 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: here that are rhetorical because something isn't adding up. How 98 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: is it possible that we don't have a full and 99 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: clear understanding of where all of Epstein's money came from. 100 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: We've had a little bit here, a little bit there, 101 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: but this should be obvious. And I might add, if 102 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 2: it's somewhere already, if they have the flow chart of funds, 103 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: if it's in the release, why haven't we already been 104 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 2: given it? Why is it taking all of this pressure 105 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: and all of this time. Why is it taking us 106 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: to this place to be in a situation to finally 107 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: get those answers? 108 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: So there's more that is coming out of here. 109 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 6: Now. 110 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: I think you can pretty much set your watch to 111 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: this one. No matter what happens here with the files. 112 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: In terms of nothing, this is all about getting Trump 113 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: for the Democrats. And there's something very grotesque about Democrats 114 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: suddenly caring they didn't care about this during the Biden administration, 115 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: suddenly caring so much about the Epstein files, Epstein's victims, 116 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: all of this. It's hard not to view it as posturing, 117 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: because it is posturing, meant to create the moral high 118 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: ground from which they can throw mud at Donald Trump, 119 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: or at least the appearance of such a thing. No 120 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: matter what happens with these files, I can assure you 121 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: they will not say, you know, you know is cleared. 122 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: Trump didn't do any didn't do anything. And so that 123 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: also brings us to why I think Trump wasn't so 124 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: immediately in favor of the release, because no matter how 125 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: much transparency he offers, or rather he gives, and for 126 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: a lot of people, I understand, this is a file 127 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: through on a campaign promise, So you want it irrespective 128 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: of anything else, and that's very valid, and clearly Trump 129 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: has decided that that's what's going to happen. This should 130 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,119 Speaker 2: have been done. I think a lot of people recognize 131 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: now sooner. A lot of you were calling in and 132 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: demanding it, to which I just kept saying, Yeah, I 133 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: want more transparency. I don't have the files, right, he says, 134 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: it's not in my power to release them. All we 135 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: can do is air as we did, our sense that 136 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 2: there's more here and that there's more to be uncovered. 137 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: And I think that that has certainly happened. I think 138 00:08:54,160 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: that has certainly been a very real motivation here right, 139 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: telling people having the Trump base come forward and say 140 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: we don't have the answers we want. We're not accepting 141 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: anything else. It's time for this all to come clean now, 142 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: Speaker Johnson, he is pointing out here, this is cut one. 143 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: He's saying that the president has nothing to do with it. 144 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: Democrats are going to weaponize it. Just be prepared for this. 145 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: They're going to attack Trump even if his name doesn't 146 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: appear one more time in the files. 147 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: Play clip one. 148 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 7: This is a political exercise for Democrats. And it pains 149 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 7: me to say it. I wish that was not the truth, 150 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 7: but it is, and it's undeniable. This is as deceitful 151 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 7: and dishonest, as their pointless stunt was to shut the 152 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 7: government down. Democrats are using the Epstein tragedy, the unspeakable 153 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 7: evils that this guy committed with his trafficking ring, and 154 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 7: all of the abuses that they that they made these 155 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 7: young women go through. They're using that as a political 156 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 7: weapon to try to distract from their failures as a 157 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 7: party and to try their best to try to tie 158 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 7: President Trump somehow into this wretched scandal. The President had 159 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 7: nothing to do with it. He's been very clear and 160 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 7: he has nothing to hide, and that's why he's endorsed 161 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 7: the vote today. 162 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: I think that's where we are. 163 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: I think the President is about to show all of 164 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: his naysayers, detractors, haters. 165 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: They're haters, they're not detractors, and they're deranged. In many cases. 166 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: They hate him in a way that is that is irrational, 167 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 2: and that is extreme to the point of being unhealthy. 168 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: Trump Arrangement syndrome. But they're not going to ever say 169 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: that it's enough. You can never convince the people who 170 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: have been trying to dirty Trump up with Epstein that 171 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: there's not more to be found that would prove that 172 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: Trump is really the bad guy. 173 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: So just be prepared for that. 174 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: And in fact, Chuck Schumer is out there saying already 175 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: that this is and this has cut three one of 176 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: the worst, most damaging moments of the Trump presidency. 177 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 8: This will go down as one of the most damaging 178 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 8: moments of Donald Trump's presidency. In trying so hard to 179 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 8: hide the truth, Donald Trump has provoked the fiercest rebellion 180 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 8: he's ever faced among his own supporters, both in Congress 181 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 8: and around the country. All the line, all the broken 182 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 8: promises about transparency, all the bullying and threats to members 183 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 8: of Congress who wanted these files released, it's all blown 184 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,239 Speaker 8: up in Donald Trump's face. His usual methods of intimidation 185 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 8: and dishonesty have failed spectacularly in this instance. 186 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 2: So we are to believe if you listen to Chuck 187 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: Schumer there, who's had a rough go of it lately, 188 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,239 Speaker 2: you know, the whole Schumer shut down disaster for him. Politically, 189 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 2: people are realizing the guy's too old. Whatever fastball used 190 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: to have is no longer there. Chuck Schumer is saying, 191 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: this is such a disaster. We are to believe that 192 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: the Biden doj which was on a jihad against Trump, 193 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: we are to believe that they had derogatory information about 194 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: Donald Trump while they were prosecuting him in two federal 195 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: criminal trials that were, as we know, political, totally politically motivate, 196 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: but that they didn't release this. How does that add up? 197 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: You know, they never really address this. They just didn't 198 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: pay attention. It's not hard. You have all these files, 199 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: especially now with AI. I'm going to tell you something. 200 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: You could find Trump's name and find every reference to 201 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: him in seconds doing a simple search. And you could 202 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 2: use AI to find anything that even vaguely is Trump 203 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: adjacent in all these documents. 204 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: So don't tell me. 205 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: All they didn't have the manpower, they didn't have the 206 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: ability to figure this out. No, they're doing this because 207 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,359 Speaker 2: for one thing, unfortunately, they have been successful and completely 208 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: changing the national political conversation away from the stupidity, the selfishness, 209 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: and the absurdity and the destruction of the Schumer shutdown 210 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: they've already managed. Notice, does it even feel like we 211 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: had a month long government shutdown for no good reason 212 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: except for a Democrat tantrum? Feels like it was years 213 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: ago now because they've completely shifted the conversation that's already 214 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: happened I can't stop it. You know, I wish I 215 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: had the power to direct the whole national conversation. We've 216 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: got millions of you who listen, but there's you know, 217 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty million people in the country when 218 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: you add all the illegals, something like that. So here 219 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: we are, and we're going to see Trump. We're going 220 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 2: to see Trump signing this, and then there's going to 221 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: be more files released and we'll continue to work through them. 222 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: I do not believe there will be a smoking gun. 223 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: I was actually on with Piers Morgan for his show 224 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: which will be airing later today, and Peers dramatically strenuously 225 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: disagrees with me on this. He thinks that there are 226 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: people who are going to go to prison over the 227 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: what's in the I completely I just don't see it, 228 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: because the DOJ then would have to admit that they 229 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 2: were holding files that should have brought prosecution for child 230 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: sex traffickers. 231 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: Really, they're right at the deal. 232 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying that it's impossible to believe 233 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 2: the dj would do that, but it's pretty extreme. That's 234 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: that's quite a stretch. And then they're going to release 235 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: it and have to say, oh yeah, we were covering 236 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: up for these guys. Are people even going to accept this? 237 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: Ask yourself this question. Ask it now? Are people going 238 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: to accept if they do put out all this stuff 239 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: they've got in their possession? Will there be an acceptance 240 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: that this is everything that they really have? 241 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: Will we ever get all the answers? 242 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: This is the reality of this moment we find ourselves in. 243 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: I want to take your calls, take your talkbacks on 244 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: this eight two two eight eight two. 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Offer expires December seventh, twenty 271 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: twenty five. 272 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 9: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Mike drops that never sounded 273 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 9: so good. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or 274 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 9: wherever you get your podcasts. 275 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in, everybody to play? 276 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: And Buck and that other guy, mister Clay who is 277 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: he's taking a taking a page from the Buckster's book, 278 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: being an international man of mystery. He may be joining 279 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: us here shortly, and we have do we have Cissy 280 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: on the line right now. Oh, I'm sorry, Cissy an 281 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: email here. I'm looking forward to hearing the details of 282 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: Clay's super secret trip on the show, my guests. 283 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: No, you know what. 284 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: I can't read it because I don't I want Clay 285 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: to be able to. But we will give Cissy credit. 286 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: Cissy emailed us, and she nailed it. I don't know 287 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: if she's I don't know how this is possible, if 288 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: she's got like a friend who's a relative in the 289 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 2: Travis family. But I said, super secret international mystery, and Sissy, 290 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: very impressive. 291 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: We will we will say what it is in a moment. 292 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: But you wrote a newn email and you knew exactly 293 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: what mister Clay was doing. So this is uh, that's 294 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: what we'd call it. Teas in the business. So I'll 295 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: be joining us. 296 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: I can tell you the country he's in, and I 297 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: told him if he doesn't come back ten pounds heavier. 298 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 2: By the way, we're gonna rack and stack your Epstein 299 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 2: calls as soon as after Clay calls in, So call 300 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: in eight hundred two way two two eight A two. 301 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: How do you feel about this Transparency Act? What do 302 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 2: you think is going on here? Is this going to 303 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: be enough? You know, let's let's hear from you. So 304 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: many of you demanded from this administration what is happening here? 305 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: So let's hear from you. 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Eight four four A two four safe. Welcome 326 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: back into the Clay and Buck Show. 327 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 10: As the name implies, there are two of them, but 328 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 10: some of us go on fancy international man of Mystery 329 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 10: tours and stuff their faces with delicious pasta and do 330 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 10: other cool things. 331 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: But they will call in from said mission. Mister Clay 332 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: Travis joins us. Tell us where you are first, Clay, I. 333 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 11: Am in Rome. 334 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 6: I'm overlooking the tomb of Augustus, and I got to 335 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 6: go and see the Pope today in the Vatican to 336 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 6: to you know, complete this this idea that we had, 337 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 6: which I think was a pretty cool one, to invite 338 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 6: the Pope to come to Chicago and throw out an 339 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 6: opening pitch for the Chicago White Sox. So all of 340 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 6: this has uh has happened. Today. It's evening, getting ready 341 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 6: to go out and have some wine and have a 342 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 6: good dinner. But it was an awesome day. So that 343 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 6: was the super secret trip. I didn't want to step 344 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 6: on anything about the about the process of getting that 345 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 6: invite out to the Pope. But UH got to meet 346 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 6: the ambassadors UH to Italy and the UH and the 347 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 6: Vatican City got to be there for the UH for 348 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 6: the offer to the Pope. And UH. There's video and 349 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 6: UH and footage. I think that's gonna be up on 350 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 6: out kick soon that we'll try to get shared with 351 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 6: you guys. 352 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: So, so you you have met with the Pontiffy, you're 353 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: not You're not a Catholic, right, Clay? 354 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 6: I am not? Yeah, and you're not and uh, but 355 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 6: it was it was a yes. 356 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 2: But certainly what I was gonna say is of people 357 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 2: right for our Catholic audience is like a really really 358 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: big deal. You know, it would be amazing to to 359 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 2: be able to actually meet the Pope in person. 360 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: What was it? Like, I mean, take us through this. 361 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 2: So it's did he did he tell you that you know, 362 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: Nick Saban is the greatest of all time? 363 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 6: Like? 364 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: Did he make a sports choke? Did he bless you? 365 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: Take us? Take where did you see him? You got 366 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: to give us some of these details. 367 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 6: So on Wednesday, they do a open public forum, a 368 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 6: sort of Pope address in many different languages, you know, 369 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 6: with probably ten fifteen thousand people, maybe more than that, 370 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 6: in the in the square outside of Saint Peter's outdoor. 371 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: It was a great weather. 372 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 6: I believe they have a big public area down on 373 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 6: the in the in the larger sort of plaza there. 374 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 6: We were up close to the stage. He does all 375 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 6: of his all of his homily, his address in multiple 376 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 6: different languages, and then afterwards there are people that he greets. 377 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 6: And the new owner of the Chicago White Sox happens 378 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 6: to be a law school classmate of And we were 379 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 6: a couple of months ago sitting around trying to think 380 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 6: of ways that he could introduce himself to the people 381 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 6: of Chicago. And I had seen that jd Vance presents 382 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 6: a Chicago Bears Jersey to the Pope, and I said, 383 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 6: you know what we should You should invite him to 384 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 6: come and throw out the first pitch at a proposed 385 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 6: new stadium that they are in the process of working 386 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 6: through in Chicago for the White Sox. And that seems 387 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 6: like a good idea. And then the process of okay, well, 388 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 6: how do you get in touch with the Pope to 389 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 6: be able to get a meeting. He seems really really 390 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 6: excited at the idea he got a For people out 391 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 6: there who are sports fans, the Chicago White Sox won 392 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 6: the World Series in two thousand and five and Pop Leo, 393 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 6: obviously not the Pope then, was in the crowd at 394 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 6: the World Series, and so he's a huge White Sox fan, 395 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 6: and so my friend, the new owner, one of the 396 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 6: new owners soon to be officially the owner, got the 397 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 6: whole team from two thousand and five to sign a 398 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 6: White Sox jersey from that year, and then also conveyed 399 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 6: the offer to the Pope, you know, schedule permitting for 400 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 6: the Pope to come and throw out the first pitch 401 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 6: when they opened the stadium. Pope hasn't been, to my knowledge, 402 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 6: to Chicago since nineteen seventy nine. So again, this happened 403 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 6: early this morning in the Vatican and is becoming a 404 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 6: big story obviously in Chicago, and I think a lot 405 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 6: of people are finding it to be just a you know, awesome, 406 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 6: cool story in general overall. If you are you know, 407 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 6: there's not a particular political connotation to it or anything 408 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 6: like that, but if you are a fan of sports, 409 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 6: it's just kind of cool to have an American pope 410 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 6: and someone who is going to to hopefully in the 411 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 6: next couple of years, be able to come to Chicago 412 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 6: and uh and and do something incredibly unique and awesome 413 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 6: in the in the city. So that's kind of so. 414 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 2: The offer was made, but we don't we we don't 415 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: yet know if the pope is going to be able 416 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: to do this. 417 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: Is that is that right? 418 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 6: Well, he just I mean, the Pope's schedule, as one 419 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 6: might imagine, is very busy. He said that he wants 420 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 6: to do it. We've got to figure out exactly what 421 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 6: the date is. But it's kind of what I would 422 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 6: say as a conditional acceptance. He knew that the offer 423 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 6: was coming. He was excited to be able to get 424 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 6: the offer, to get the jersey, to be able to 425 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 6: meet and uh, I think he's going to uh. I 426 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 6: think he's going to try and uh and and I 427 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 6: mean he said he's going to try and do it, 428 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 6: so it could it should be a pretty awesome event. 429 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: Look at you globe trying. 430 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 6: So Ma's just trying to do good things and make 431 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 6: the world a little bit better places. Everyone assume that 432 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 6: I always will be trying to do. 433 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: And Clay Clay is uh is making his making his 434 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: moves over there at the Catholic Rock of Saint Peter, 435 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 2: that is the church. Uh So, now tell me what 436 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: you think about the Epstein foles. Since we got you 437 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: on the phone, since we got you, I mean, you know. 438 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 6: I'm glad that everybody has voted to release him. Buck, 439 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 6: you've got the rest of the show. I Am going 440 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 6: to have abundant amounts of wine tonight and have a 441 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 6: great dinner in Rome. Uh you you brought. I hope 442 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 6: that all right that you have. 443 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: I'll handle it. I'll handle it. You go have some 444 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 2: gelato with Laura and the kids. Go have fun and 445 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: very cool. Congratulations on the meeting with the Pope, and 446 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: thank you sir. Come come back Friday or Monday, whatever 447 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 2: you got. 448 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: We'll see you then. 449 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 6: Okay, we'll do I'll see you. 450 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 2: Have fun, Matt, have a good dinner. So I there 451 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: you go. Clay met the Pope. So there's that, and 452 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: that was why he was he was going this week. 453 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 2: It's very exciting, very exciting. 454 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: The Pope. 455 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: Also we did have I was going to read the 456 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: email from from Cissy who said that that's what she 457 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 2: thought was happening, and that's a pretty remarkable, pretty remarkable call. 458 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: She said, I'm looking forward to hearing the details of 459 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: Clay's super secret trip on the show. My guess is 460 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: he got a once in a lifetime interview with the 461 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: Pope since he's a baseball fan. 462 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: Just a wild guest. There you go. You nailed it, 463 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: and Cissy, we got your follow up. Ema. 464 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I got it correct, Clay and the Pope. 465 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: Maybe I should buy a lottery tickets. So we did 466 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: have and that was before Clay tweeted about this or 467 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: put it out on x But this was before that happened. 468 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: Clay was supposed to reveal this on the show, but 469 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: he's Clay. He does whatever he wants. So there we are, team, 470 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: Why don't we Because we're gonna have kind of a 471 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: hard turn coming up here into the world of from. 472 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: Meeting with the Pope to the release of the Epstein files. 473 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: We have a little bit of a of a transition 474 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 2: to do, and we'll can stack some calls and some 475 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 2: talkbacks on this one because I think that what we 476 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: are seeing is hopefully what many of you have been 477 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: demanding all along. We also have the White House weighing 478 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 2: in on the filibuster via Caroline Levitt, and Trump really 479 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 2: rolling out the red carpet for the Saudi leadership, which 480 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 2: is something that I think this is a good thing 481 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 2: for the region, a good thing for America, for the 482 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: Middle East, I mean good thing for America. I think 483 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 2: you might see a normalization of relations between Israel and 484 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia under this Trump presidency, furthering the Abraham Accords, 485 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: and I think you might see the big move in 486 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: the Middle East with regard to that, and Trump is 487 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: trying to bring that about. Of course, there are the detractors, 488 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: the haters out there, the people who are upset that 489 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 2: Trump would sit with the head of state of a 490 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: country that, whether we want to deal with the Saudis 491 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: or not, is critical to our energy infrastructure or rather 492 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 2: energy market, and we really don't have a choice. So 493 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: why not have a constructive relationship with the Saudis. Why 494 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 2: not try to encourage them to yes, invest in America, 495 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 2: which is a huge focus from Trump, but also to 496 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: do what they can to liberalize. I know Saudi Arabia 497 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 2: is an autocracy. I'm fully aware of the and I 498 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: know about the past with Saudi Arabia's role in unfortunately 499 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: exporting the what we used to refer to very much 500 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: as the Wahabist ideology, which is a radical interpretation of 501 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: Islam setting up Wahabist mosques. 502 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: All over the world. They've moved away from that. 503 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: They've become a constructive partner for security in the region, 504 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: and they're making overtures toward a better relationship with Israel, 505 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: and that would be very helpful for Middle East peace 506 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: and stability. So that's why that's going on. Also, something else, 507 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: We're gonna have Michael Watley joining us later. He's running 508 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: for Senate up there in North Carolina, a very important 509 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: Senate seat, And there's some major immigration enforcement operations underway 510 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: in North Carolina that there's pushback, of course from Democrats. 511 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: What's really going on there? When I tell you I 512 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: have some stats, When I tell you how many kids 513 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: are staying home because of immigration illegal alien immigration enforcement 514 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: in North Carolina, I think you're gonna be pretty shocked. 515 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 2: And it gives you a sense of how enormous the 516 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: scale of illegal immigration is and the costs associated with this. 517 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: You are paying for this, especially if you live in 518 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 2: North Carolina, live in these districts where the kids are 519 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: staying home. You're paying for English as a second language 520 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: training in these schools. You are bringing in students from 521 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: abroad who are going to be far beyond, a far behind. 522 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: We already through many Americans behind grade level, I mean 523 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: way behind grade level and hold the. 524 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: Rest of the class back. 525 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: I mean, think about this if English is not their 526 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: first language and then they're put in these classrooms. 527 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: There's just so much going on here. 528 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: We'll talk to Michael Waltley about the immigration forestment component 529 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: of this coming up. And like I said, we'll get 530 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: to your calls here. Epstein files, Trump is signing it. 531 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 2: Congress has said, all right, you're getting the files. 532 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: Is this good enough? Is assuming it happens? Is this 533 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: good enough? Is there more? What do you think? Give 534 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: us a call. 535 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: Look, Clay unfortunately doesn't have a rapid radio right now. 536 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: Technically they think that'll be too far away in Italy. 537 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: But rapid radios all across the United States are amazing, 538 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 2: and I've talked to Clay on my rapid radio here 539 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: in the US. Rapid radios are modern day walkie talkies. 540 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: They work on the LTE network. 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That's rapid radios dot Com. 559 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: We want to begin to know when you're on the go. 560 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 12: Nineteen forty seven podcasts Trump Highlights from the week Sundays 561 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 12: at noon Eastern in the podcast. Find it on the 562 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 12: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 563 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We got 564 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: some calls rolling in. Let's get to them. 565 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: Ron in Saint Petersburg, Florida. 566 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: And we got another Ron who's going to be calling 567 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: in tomorrow, the Governor of Florida. Ron, the great State 568 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: of Florida and our fantastic governor. Thanks for calling in. 569 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:24,719 Speaker 5: Thank you. 570 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 11: I love the show. I love Clay being able to 571 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 11: go see the Pope and get him to throw out 572 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 11: the first baseball. Now, I think that's awesome. I'm a 573 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 11: local pastor. But the reason I called in was just 574 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 11: to say, it's sad that the only unity we can 575 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 11: have is something that has to do with a man 576 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 11: that's already dead, and we can't do anything about what's 577 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 11: already been done. Yes, everyone should be prosecuted that's done wrong, 578 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 11: and that in that sense with Epstein, But where is 579 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 11: the unity of Congress when it comes to the economy 580 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 11: of our nation? 581 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's thank you for calling Inswer. 582 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's unity on this issue now, and we'll 583 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: see how long the sense of unity lasts after this 584 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: information is made public. Because I think it will be 585 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: very rapidly and in bad faith, uh, really weaponized and 586 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: transformed if it has to be, and it will have 587 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: to be, in my opinion, to be somehow an attack 588 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: on Donald Trump. 589 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: That's that's what's going to happen. 590 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 2: As for why there's not unity, well, because they're lunatic 591 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: communists who are emotionally unstable and don't view the world 592 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: as it is and we're trying to actually deal with 593 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: a complicated world like adults, as as the right as Republicans. 594 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 2: That's that's the reason we can't get unity. It's unfortunately, 595 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: that's the way it is. And that's where we are. 596 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: Anna in Raleigh, North Carolina, what's going on? 597 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: Enna? 598 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 6: Thanks for taking my call. 599 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: You're welcome. You hear me, Yeah, we all hear it. 600 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 11: I think it's about Tom. I think it's about Tom. 601 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 13: That everything comes out about Epstein, all those that were 602 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 13: involved in it need to be prosecuted and all the 603 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 13: conspiracies be done with it. Be done with it, because 604 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 13: nobody in the country is going to hear anything else 605 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 13: until this is over. 606 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 2: Do you think this will be the end of it 607 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: in terms of transparency demands and the information or do 608 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 2: you think that this is just another step in the process. 609 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 13: Well, that depends whether or not if any arrests come 610 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 13: out of it. 611 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: There we go. 612 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: It's a big that's a big and very valid, very 613 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 2: valid point to race. Thank you so much for calling in. 614 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 2: Let's take some talkbacks here. Sonny from Scottsdale, Arizona bb. 615 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 6: BB. 616 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: Hello, Hi claim Buck. 617 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 5: I am a here fan. I listen to you guys 618 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 5: every day. I'm Discustal Arizona, and it just makes me 619 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 5: so mad that they cannot stop attacking Donald Trump. They 620 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 5: had every chance to get the Epstein files open when 621 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 5: Biden was in office, and they did nothing. And now 622 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 5: Trump is trying to be transparent with this besides taking 623 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 5: care of everything else, and they're still attacking them. Just 624 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 5: pisses me off. 625 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel the same way about this. 626 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: I think that they you know, also. 627 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 2: I'll tell you something, as a as a man, there's 628 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 2: something particularly galling and outrageous about people knowingly falsely insinuating 629 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: some kind of sex crime or sexual impropriety. And they're 630 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 2: doing this to Trump all the time. And you know, 631 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 2: I ask any guy, it's it's such an underhanded thing 632 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: to do. 633 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: And this is what they've been doing, whether. 634 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 2: It was the they've been doing this against Trump all along. 635 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 2: There's all kinds of accusations they've leveled against him, and 636 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: they're gonna think unfortunate. They're going to continue to do this. 637 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: So we will continue to talk about this situation. Next hour, 638 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 2: we'll have Michael Wattley, former R and C chairman and 639 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 2: North Carolina Senate Canadate talking about the immigration raids in 640 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: North Carolina, and we'll also look at how the Democrats 641 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 2: are positioning themselves with this Epstein release. And also, oh 642 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: and Trump talking about Saudi Arabia and how the he said, 643 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 2: I think a trillion dollars of investment he's trying to 644 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 2: get to the Saudis. Trillion dollars is real money, everybody. 645 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 2: We'll discuss all that and we'll take your calls. I'm 646 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 2: gona keep rocking on the show and we will bask 647 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 2: in the holiness. Maybe there's a halo over Clay's head 648 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 2: after his meeting with the Pope