1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 1: And I just for whatever reason, decided, after I do that, 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to lie down on the boardroom table in 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: front everyone ray shaving cream all over my face and 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: scream that I want to be on MTV. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: So I did that, and everyone's going, what the hell's 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: this kid in? 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: And that I took the shaving cream and I walked 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: up to the guy who looked like he was in charge, 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: and I put some on his face. 10 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: They called the next day and they picked up the 11 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: show next day. 12 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, episode four with Tom Green. I have a list 13 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: of most influential people that I would eventually like to interview. Okay, 14 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: now we've marked off the second one, so maybe three now. 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 3: So on my list, I have David Letterman, Mark Grace, 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: the baseball player, Sting the wrestler, Conan O'Brien, Tom Green, 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: Steve Martin, Adam Durretz, and Garth Brooks. We've had Adam 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 3: on this show before. Yeah, so he's off the list. Garth, 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: does that count that I've interview him any times? Just 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: not for this, I think that counts. Okay, So Guard's 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: off the list, and now Tom Green is off the list, 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 3: which was pretty cool because he came over to the 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: house on a Saturday. He actually DMed me weeks ago 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 3: out of nowhere, and I was like, wow, Tom Green 25 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: just followed me on Instagram. So he's like, hey man, 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be in Nashville, and I was like, cool, 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: I want to come over. That's not really how it happened, 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: but we did hook it up and it was super 29 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: cool that he drove over his own car. He was 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: playing a show that night, and we hung out in 31 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: the backyard for like twenty minutes after. 32 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 4: What were your thoughts on it? 33 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 5: I thought it was awesome, Like I was like right 34 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 5: behind when he was like super famous. I really got 35 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 5: to know him through reruns in his movies. But it 36 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 5: was so cool to kind of finally meet him and 37 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 5: learn his story after watching the documentary. 38 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: Documentary is great, I think too. He thought it was 39 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: cool we had watched it because it had just come 40 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: out the night before and he hasn't been able to 41 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: talk about it with anyone because nobody's really been able 42 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: to see it. 43 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was so fresh. 44 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 45 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: So Tom Green has a documentary out, He's got a 46 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: comedy special out, He's got a war part docuseriies headed 47 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: to Amazon Prime Video. Is that out now, yeah, series, 48 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: you can check it all out. I watched every episode 49 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: of Tom Green Show. I forgot some of the stuff, 50 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 3: like the cancer stuff. I forgot how real that was 51 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: until watching it on the documentary. 52 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 5: That's kind of when I got to know him first. 53 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 5: When that story came out, I was like, Oh, that's crazy. 54 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: Well, you wonder too, because Andy Kaufman, you know, he 55 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: died of cancer. And Tom Green was very much a 56 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: performance artist, not in every way, and I think at 57 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: times I think he resents people only see him as that, 58 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 3: but that's what made him famous. And so Andy Coffin 59 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: died of cancer, and so when he said I had cancer, 60 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people wondered, is this even real? 61 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: It's the bit, but it was. Yeah, it was very real. 62 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: Check out the documentary. This is one of my favorite interviews. Again, 63 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: so much of a favorite that it made my list. 64 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: And also everybody came up on Saturday to work follow him. 65 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: Get tickets at Tom Green Tomgreen dot com. Here he 66 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: is the great Tom Green. There's the legend of the 67 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: Bumbum song having to be retired from trol It's true? 68 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 3: Is it okay? I was gonna ask is it true? 69 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 3: And if so, would you please tell the story? 70 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh. 71 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: I think it's the Statute of limitations has passed on 72 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: me not being supposed to tell this story. 73 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: Because I was not. 74 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: Really it was supposed to be kind of a secret 75 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: back in the time because it was kind of a 76 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: little bit a weird thing happened. So, you know, TRL, 77 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: everybody my generation remembers. 78 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: To We watched Carson Day Jesse all the yea, everybody. 79 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: Hold a request live right. People call in and they 80 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: request their favorite song and then it goes on the 81 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: countdown every day. 82 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: So that's all. 83 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: That is how it works, right, It was everyone would 84 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: call in and that was really how it worked. They 85 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: really did do that. But we went and shot this 86 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: bumbum song and put it on the Tom Green Show, 87 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: and I went and said call TRL and vote for it, 88 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: and and we didn't really inform the producers of TRL 89 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: that we were doing that. You know, MTV knew about 90 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: it because they knew what was happening, but it sort 91 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: of fell through the cracks, or maybe they weren't expecting 92 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: it would go to number one. 93 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: I'm sure that was it. It didn't go to number one. 94 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: It did go to number one, like the next day, 95 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: so like the show aired and then it was a 96 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, I forget what day it aired, but it 97 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: was the beginning of the week. The show was number 98 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: one on the Monday of that week and got a 99 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: call from MTV. Howard, my manager at the time, got 100 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: a call from MTV. He said, you know, we need 101 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: Tom to go on TRL on Friday and retire the 102 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: Bumbump song. 103 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: And what do you mean it might why? You know? 104 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: They was number number one again on Wednesday, and the 105 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: call comes again, more frantic, No, he has to go retire. No, 106 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: Tom doesn't want to retire. He's got the number one 107 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: song until a request live in America. This is why 108 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: would you want. 109 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: To retire it? 110 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: He has to retire it, and they weren't telling us why. 111 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: And then they call again Thursday, he has to retire. 112 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: Here's why. And so the following week I probably wasn't 113 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: supposed to say, but it's been twenty five years. I'm 114 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: sure everyone can get over it. You know, Carson del 115 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: he's done. Fine, he's on the Today's Shown hour. But 116 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 1: you know they had pre taped the next week because 117 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, uh, scheduling of whatever it was, so they 118 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: just basically sort of replicated the Countdown from the week before. 119 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: They had just replicated it. I don't know how often 120 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: they pre taped the TRL, but it was obviously real 121 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: normally because the bum Bum Song went to number one 122 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: just just by accident, you know, but because it was 123 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: pre taped the next week, and they really couldn't just 124 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: throw that out, they weren't able to tape that week 125 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: for some reason. I had to retire the Bumbum Song 126 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: on Friday because it was not going to be on 127 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: the Countdown the following Monday. It would have made no sense. 128 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: So I played ball, you know, I went on, I 129 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: retired the. 130 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: Retired the song. 131 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: I was on the Countdown for one week, and they 132 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 1: gave me a retirement home plaque, which I have hanging 133 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: in my recording studio at home. But yeah, I'm still 134 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: kind of a little annoyed at that though, because I 135 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: think it would have it would have had a good run. 136 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes things would stay number one for weeks 137 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: and weeks and weeks on end, and then you could 138 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: really you know, it would have been a really cool thing. 139 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: But they took this song and turned it into oh, 140 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: it's just a joke. It's not a real song, it's 141 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: not with a real record company, so you know, let's 142 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: just retire it. But there was that reason for it, 143 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: and they were of course my boss, and I was 144 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: happy to be there, so I did that. But but 145 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: the song, because the song was never released officially released, 146 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: it wasn't on a record or anything. It was also 147 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: the number one most downloaded song on Napster that year 148 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine because partially probably because it was 149 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: you couldn't get it anywhere else. So in some ways 150 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: that kind of was where people maybe started using Napster 151 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: for the first time. You know, it was really kind 152 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: of it was an interesting moment in music history. 153 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: The bum bum song. 154 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: They were obviously speculating what they thought would be the 155 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: number one song when they were taping those episodes ahead 156 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: of time. What took over as number one that they 157 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: thought would have been number one? It was like an 158 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: n Sync or a olymp Biscuit. 159 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: Or I can't remember exactly what it was. I know, 160 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: I think Britney Spears was on the countdown. I think 161 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: I think it was ninety eight degrees was on there. 162 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: I really don't have the I don't remember the exact 163 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: countdown but it was it was for sure some of 164 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: those I think lymp Biscuit was for sure was on 165 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: the countdown then deservedly shout out Fred Durst, a friend 166 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: of mine. I love Fred, lovelymp Biscuit, but no they 167 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, I've got to become friends with Fred when 168 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: I lived in LA and he's those guys are still 169 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: killing it. And from that's from my year on MTV 170 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: the Olympiscuit that was there. That was their big big 171 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: hits that year and they're still killing it out there 172 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: around the world. 173 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: So what does twelve year old Tom listen to music wise? 174 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: Music wise, like twelve years old, Yeah, that's when you're twelve. 175 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 4: That's an age for me when it kind of all 176 00:07:58,360 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 4: started to come together. 177 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, sugar Hill Gang Rappers Delight I discovered at 178 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: around twelve, and that was that was a big one. 179 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: But I might have been might have been thirteen when 180 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 2: I discovered that though. 181 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: So twelve would have been Michael Jackson Thriller. See what 182 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: year was was? I? 183 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? Was was Michael Jackson Thriller out? Yet in eighty 184 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: eighty three? 185 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: I see the Beg's was the first cassette that I had. 186 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: My parents gave me a tape deck and the Beg's 187 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: Staying Alive. I wish they'd given me a different tape, 188 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: but anyways, no, but so I would listen to that 189 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: a lot. Twelve years old, I had a few things 190 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: that I you know, I it was Michael Jackson. 191 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 4: I like TV shows we waited to watch that kind 192 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 4: of shaped you and that preteen. 193 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: The reason I'm hesitating, I'm trying to think it was 194 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: like eleven or twelve, you know, because I know, I know, well, 195 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: shortly after twelve, I got a lot more into music. 196 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: But it was always sort of just what was playing 197 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: on the radio when I was twelve, What was on 198 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: the top ten that night? You know, would be sort 199 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: of what was you know, whether it was you know, 200 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: the I don't know, you know, survivor or something like that. 201 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: You know, Like there's lots of different songs that were 202 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: playing on the radio when I was twelve. But I 203 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: got to be about fourteen, That's when I really kind 204 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: of found myself really liking rap music and things like that. 205 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: So so BC Boys one of my favorites of all time, 206 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: like top five albums for sure. It is licensed ill 207 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 3: because it was the first one. Yeah, absolutely, like It's 208 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: what introduced me. I'm just a goofy white kid from 209 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: Arkansas and they're Jewish rappers from kind of Brooklyn, so 210 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: not exactly the same, but they were just different. So 211 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: it was kind of like my infatuation with David Letterman. 212 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: He was a Midwest guy that looked odd compared to 213 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: everybody else. Yeah, and I was odd compared to everybody else. 214 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: Kind of gave me a bit of hope. Yeah, But 215 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: those guys Letterman with the so loved the Beamsie Boys. 216 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: I wonder if that was what it was like for you. 217 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: Beastie Boys, David Letterman, Tony Hawk, skateboarding. These were my my, 218 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: my things that I loved. I mean, I you know, 219 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: I actually we did a cover band of the Beastie 220 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: Boys in high school and went up and did I 221 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: did Fight for Your Right to Party and No Sleep 222 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: for Bill Brooklyn and run dmc raising. 223 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: Hell. 224 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: You know this was me rapping on stage and the 225 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: first year of high school, I guess, and then uh, 226 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: and then David Letterman. I mean, I talk about this 227 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: a lot in the documentary. 228 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: Because it's it's sort of the precursor to what. 229 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: I was doing on my show, where I was trying 230 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: to emulate David Letterman. I was going out with the 231 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: video camera and doing stuff on the street, kind of 232 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: like what David Letterman did when he went out in 233 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: the street. But it's hard to kind of put it 234 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 1: in perspective for people who don't remember what the world 235 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: was like back then. You know, it was no so 236 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: going to watch television at twelve thirty in the morning 237 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: where there was normally a color bars test pattern on 238 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: and and you'd because it was on so late at 239 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: the time, that was crazy that there was even a 240 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 1: show on after midnight during the week. It kind of 241 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: felt like you were discovering something and seeing something that 242 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: nobody else knew about. So it felt like going down 243 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: this rabbit hole. Like that you can go down on 244 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: the internet now and find your own thing. Back then, 245 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: you'd find your own thing and in sort of obscure 246 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: places like Thrasher Magazine was a skateboard magazine that I'd 247 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, go have to find in one little skateboard shop, 248 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: and that was the internet. 249 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 2: To me. That was my glimpse. 250 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: Into the outside world outside of the mainstream television. And 251 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: then rap music was also like that, you know, listening 252 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: to Boogie Down Productions or run DMC and these groups 253 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: coming out of New York City and you're just up 254 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: in Ottawa going up and wow, what is this? 255 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: What is this world? This is exciting? You know? 256 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: How close were you guys with organized rhymes actually pursuing that, 257 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: like for a decade. 258 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we were really really into it for sure 259 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: when we were when I was we went down to 260 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,359 Speaker 1: New York City when I was, you know, a teenager, 261 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: and we recorded a demo and then then we ended 262 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: up getting a record deal in Canada on A and 263 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: M Records, and we sort of did it for a 264 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: couple of years after that, but then you know, the 265 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: sort of it stopped it kind of it never was 266 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: released in the United States. It was a sort of 267 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: a successful in Canada thing. It would play on the radio. 268 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: I mean I was just out of high school. And Greg, 269 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: who was the other rapper in the group, he was 270 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: still in high school. So you know, he's in high 271 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: school and we had a song on the number one 272 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: on the dance charts in Canada and we. 273 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 4: Got cool at school. Were you guys cool because you 274 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 4: were on the radio? 275 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: He was cool? 276 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 4: For sure. 277 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 2: I might not have been cool. He was definitely cool. 278 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: There was a comedic element to the band, so you know, 279 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: we you know, I would always say, well, let's put 280 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,479 Speaker 1: laundry baskets on our heads between songs and play industrial 281 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: music and do sort of a synchronized dance routine. So 282 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: we would do this weird stuff. No, he was very 283 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: funny and we'd do this fine stuff. 284 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: But it was cool though. 285 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: It was cool, but he was definitely cooler than I was. 286 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: I was kind of more the goofball, but I made 287 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: all the beats and stuff and and it was it 288 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: was exciting, and it kind of We would go down 289 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: to Toronto to go on much music and we'd host 290 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: the Rap City Show it was called, and different perform 291 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: on different shows live. And that's when I really realized 292 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: start seeing television studios and lights and cameras, and I 293 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: thought that I want to do this. I want to 294 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: I want to do television. And that's that's kind of 295 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: when the record sort of fizzled out. After that, I 296 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: went back to school and startied broadcasting and started the 297 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: Tom Green Show. 298 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: So how accessible was the public access station where you were? 299 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: So it's it's a little different in Canada. So you know, 300 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: because sometimes you think of public access and it's a 301 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: real kind of you know, gritty, little crappy little station. 302 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: But in Canada, so they have the cable delivery company 303 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: sort of like the it was called Roger's Cable, so 304 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: the company that you buy your cable from. They were 305 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: sort of required to create a little community channel and 306 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: every every city. So because of that, there was good 307 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: equipment there, professional kind of studios, and because I had 308 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: already had the rap album and stuff, they kind of. 309 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: Took took us in. 310 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: I was I was at school broadcasting school, so I 311 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: had a bunch of kids that knew how to operate 312 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: cameras and stuff, and we came in and we pitched 313 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: the show and they they kind of let us go 314 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: do do four episodes. And then after those four episodes 315 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: that it was sort of had a little bit of 316 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: a you know, it was weird enough that they let 317 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: us keep keep going. 318 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: So did people watch that channel in your town just 319 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: in general? 320 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: Like no, not really, no, not really, they had that 321 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: was it sort of quickly became the show that was 322 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: sort of did. 323 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: There was shows like. 324 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: Mayor's The Mayor had a show Mayor's Hotline. They had 325 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: a sports show where they talked about what the Ottawa 326 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: Senators were doing. Uh, And they were all sort of 327 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: very not very watched shows. 328 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: But but we sort. 329 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: Of built this little following and we'd had a little 330 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: studio audience and kids came down and sixty kids in 331 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: the audience, and it just sort of started kind of 332 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: just kind of slowly catching on, and it then got 333 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: picked up by the Community Rogers Community Network, so then 334 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: they started running across Canada. 335 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: You were shooting in the same place, they were just 336 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: distributing it to the. 337 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: Other, to the whole country. And then did you. 338 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 4: Feel a change there when that happened? 339 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: Could you feel it like you start to be bigger 340 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: in Canada? 341 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 342 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was early on because then then then 343 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: we did a did a pilot for the CBC, which 344 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: is the national network Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, and then that 345 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: didn't get picked up. But then we went and did 346 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: two seasons on this small network called the Comedy Network, 347 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: which is owned by CTV, the other big network, and 348 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: then we were sort of doing a show that had 349 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: a had real a real kind of uh. But it 350 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: was happening fast at that point. By that point, it 351 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: was maybe over the course of a year and a half, 352 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, we were on TV and people were excited 353 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: about the show, and then all of a sudden, MTV 354 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: picked it up and we were we were kind of 355 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: set off in that direction. 356 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: So being that young doing a show weekly, did that 357 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: feel like you were in the meat grinder at all, 358 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: even before you were getting paid. 359 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 4: Really, I I was. 360 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: Really excited to be doing it. 361 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe that I even had the ability 362 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: to do it. So it was my friend Glenn Humplick 363 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: and my friend Phil Jeru, and they were, you know, 364 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: buddies of mine. And I met Glenn Humplick at college 365 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: radio because I've been doing a college radio show at 366 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: Ottawa University. I didn't go to Ottawa University, but I 367 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: did the radio show there at midnight until two am 368 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: I Fridays, And so we were just really I mean, 369 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't getting paid. I didn't get paid to do 370 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: the show for four or five years. It was just 371 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: a labor of love. I would go down to the 372 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: studio and get in the edit bay and edit all 373 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: this stuff. But it was just sort of really kind 374 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: of driven by this sort of excitement, by the fact 375 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: that we were actually able to do this TV show 376 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: and and and you know, I was sort of driven 377 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: by the idea that I was going to try to 378 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: see if we could actually turn it into a job. 379 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: And eventually it did actually happen, unbelievably, but there was 380 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: a I was pretty motivated. I do sometimes think that 381 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: it's kind of I mean, when watching the documentary, even 382 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: while I'm editing it, you know, putting all together. I 383 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: sometimes when I watch the final documentary, I still go geez, 384 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: I was kind of can't believe I stuck. 385 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 2: With it so so long because it was. 386 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: A lot of work when I think about it, But 387 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: at the time, when you're young, you're kind of just 388 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: so excited just to be doing something. 389 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 4: Who do you hear from? 390 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: Is it somebody an executive at MTV? Do they call 391 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 3: whomever's now managing your representing you? How quick does all 392 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 3: of that happen? And and what's like the board? I 393 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 3: don't know, you walk into a business room, like the 394 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 3: cliche thing. There's all these chairs and they offer you 395 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 3: the big deal you've been waiting for, Like what really happened? 396 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: I've got a pretty hilarious story about that. I don't 397 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll see if I can paint 398 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: the picture properly. So well, First of all, what happened was, 399 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: I was the show was now kind of popular in 400 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: Canada enough that I got invited on the one talk 401 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: show we had in Canada at the time. 402 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: It was called Mike Bullard was the name of the host. 403 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: He just passed away, Rest in peace, Mike. 404 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: He was a very funny guy. He kind of gave 405 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: me a did me a solid there. He'd have us 406 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: on his show and I'd go on and do some 407 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, goofy thing that I probably, you know, like 408 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: I was talking about earlier, I probably you know, regret doing, 409 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: but know it was uh, you know, I would go 410 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: on with the bags of milk and we have milk 411 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: comes in bags in Canada, which is strange, but anyways, 412 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: pop milk bags and milk would fly everywhere and the 413 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: microphone would break and all this kind of stuff. 414 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: But his manager. 415 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: Was there, who's from Los Angeles also since passed way. 416 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: He's in the documentary. His name's Howard Lapidis and he 417 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: he uh he represented uh, Jimmy Kimmel, who was not 418 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, he was on radio at the time, and 419 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: Carson Dally, who was on TRL and UH, Norm McDonald 420 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: and UH also Doctor Drew and Adam Carolla who were 421 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: doing Loveline on MTV. So Howard was in the MTV 422 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: universe and he brought the show there and that's kind 423 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: of how we got the initial meeting to do the 424 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: pitch of the show. So they saw the few tapes 425 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: that he showed them and then they they flew us. 426 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: They flew me down to uh, the Los. 427 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: Angeles and I'm probably twenty seven or twenty eight years old, 428 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: and put me up in the Maundry on Okay, which 429 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: is the most Los Angeles feeling place to be sort 430 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: of modern, you know, Artsy Hotel furthest thing from Ottawa, 431 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: and it's right beside the House of Blues, which is 432 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: no longer there, but the House of Blues they had 433 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: these pitch meetings every year for MTV and they bring 434 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: all the producers and writers into come out and you 435 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: have a stand in front of the MTV executives, and 436 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: the top executive there was Brian Grayden, who I did 437 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: not know who anyone was, but he was the one 438 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: who ultimately signed the show. And so they had told 439 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: me they had seen four or five or they had 440 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: seen a bunch of our tapes now at this point, 441 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: and they had sort of directed me play this one, 442 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 1: this one, this one. Come, you're gonna come out. You're 443 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: gonna play these four tapes and then and then talk 444 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: a bit about the show. And so there's this thing 445 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: I used to do, which again I put it in 446 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: the documentary, so I should probably not be embarrassed to 447 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: say it, but I used to kind of for a gag, 448 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: I would suck milk out of cow's hutters. 449 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 2: You know, it was it was just a gag. It 450 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: was just a gag. 451 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: But and they said, don't don't play that one though, 452 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: don't play that one. That's so I just was such 453 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: a idiot. I guess that I you know, they literally 454 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: told me to make a VHS tape and put this 455 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: tape on where you paint your parents' house, the one 456 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: where you love the crutches and you're falling down on 457 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: the street on the crutches, and the one where you 458 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: go in the pharmacy and try to buy condoms. Play 459 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: those three, but don't play the cow utter one. And 460 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: I was so sort of sure that now we need 461 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: a gross out one. You know, you need to have 462 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: a balance here. You know, it's very important to me 463 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: that we have a balance. So I still put that 464 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: one on the tape, and and I came out and 465 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: I did my big speech, and it was actually like quite, 466 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't cut complete idiocy, like it was thought through, 467 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: like I did say in the speech. 468 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: You know, in the pitch, you know, you know that 469 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: this is shot on home. 470 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: Video cameras and looks raw, and it looks rough, and 471 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: because I'm a skateboarder and skateboarders are doing this now, 472 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: like this kind of thing, and it'll be relatable. And 473 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: so I really did kind of try to explain why 474 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: it looked the way it looked. And then I played everything, 475 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: and then I played the cow atter thing, and of 476 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: course the room was nuts because it was disgusting, right 477 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: and funny, it's really funny, you know, dressed as Captain 478 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: Kirk or something like that, sporting and I'll call over 479 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: my face. But then I had brought a backpack with me, 480 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: and in the backpack I had a couple of cans 481 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: of shaving cream, and I just for whatever reason, decided 482 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: after I do that, I'm, you know, while everyone's freaking 483 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: out about the cow atter sucking, I'm going to lie 484 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: down on the boardroom table in front of everyone and spray 485 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: shaving cream all over my face and scream that I 486 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: want to be on MTV. 487 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: So I did that, and everyone's going, what the hell's 488 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: this kid? 489 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: And I took the shaving cream and I walked up 490 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: to the guy who looked like he was in charge, 491 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: and I put some on his face, and then I 492 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: just walked out that I was Brian Graydon and then 493 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: I walked out of the room and and the guy 494 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: who had been kind of coaching me to do the uh, 495 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: to do the pitch so, you know, called me and 496 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: was laughing. So that you put shaving cream on my 497 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: boss's face. But they called the next day and they 498 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: picked up the show next day. Yeah, yeah, and they 499 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: and I remember going down the elevator with Howard Lapidus 500 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: and he said, that was the craziest best pitch. 501 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 2: I've ever seen. I did ever. I did never pitched 502 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 2: anything before. 503 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know what a pitch was, but uh, naivete, 504 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 1: I guess kind of is good sometimes, but uh and 505 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: then uh and then they they literally I was moved 506 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: to They got me an apartment in New York City 507 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: and we moved down to New York. We took all 508 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: our tapes and which were hundreds and hundreds of tapes, 509 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: and immediately they began sort of working and packaging these tapes, 510 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: and they built a studio for us and in Times 511 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: Square right beside where they do TRL and that was 512 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: I was at the first ten episodes were just old 513 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: clips from the from the Canadian show repackaged with the 514 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: new studio. 515 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 3: At what point could you feel kind of the zeit 516 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: got your fame be tangible? 517 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: It was so crazy because you know, MTV was it's 518 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: different now, right, everybody watched MTV and we didn't have 519 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: MTV in Canada either, which was made extra weird because 520 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: I was walking into this network. I didn't have that 521 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: kind of sort of I wasn't intimidated by it as 522 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: much as I think I would have been if I 523 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: watched MTV. I wasn't emulating I don't think the culture 524 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: of MTV because I didn't grow up watching MPTV. We 525 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: grew up watching much music, right, And I mean this 526 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: is a little too far into the weeds here, but 527 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: you know, they had a promo apartment at MTV, which 528 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: was as big as the programming department. I mean there's 529 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: only five. You know this because you know you're in 530 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: music and you know this, I'm sure, but most people 531 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: don't know the detail of this about MTV is the 532 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 1: programming department and the promo department were separate entities and 533 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: equally as big, and they would run promos all days 534 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: for the day for the shows and things. And so 535 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: they started running promos for the show like a month 536 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: before the show even came on. And so as soon 537 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: as the promo started airing, you know me, you know, 538 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: humping a dead moose or whatever, you know, which Eminem 539 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: wrapped about and all this stuff. But before you know, 540 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: and and just doing the pranks of my parents and 541 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: doing all this stuff before the show even aired. It 542 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: was instantly couldn't go outside in Manhattan with everybody was 543 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: just coming up to me on the streets of Manhattan. 544 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: My parents tell the story, it might they tell the 545 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: story where they were in New York and you know, 546 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: they were getting stopped on the street. You know, it 547 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: was it was wild. But and then when the show 548 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: premiered a few weeks later, it's it's hard to remember this, 549 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: but like at the time, there was only like three 550 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: or four other shows on MTV. There was a celebrity 551 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: death Match, Road Rules, Real World, and uh Daria was 552 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: a cartoon animated show, and that's about it. Really might 553 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: have been one other. And they would play the show 554 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: like in blocks, so you'd every day the show was 555 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: on for they'd played like the Tom Green Show, like 556 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: ten ten ten episodes in a row every day for 557 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: the first year that we were on the air. So 558 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: it was unlike anything I had ever imagined. Really, I 559 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: mean it was. It went from complete anonymity in the 560 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: US to just sort of. 561 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: You know, it was a hit. It was a hit show. 562 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: It was a hit show. 563 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 4: Was Beavis and butt Head right there too. 564 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, they weren't making it anymore, so they'd they were 565 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: running reruns of it, but they'd stopped making it. And 566 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: uh yeah, Mike Judge was doing movies and stuff and 567 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: then and he was he was not working on new 568 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: no show. In fact, our head writer was Chris Brown, 569 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: who was the head writer of Beaves and butt Head. 570 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: He came in and worked with me and the writers 571 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: to kind of come up with all our new material. 572 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 4: Yet, what's the weirdest thing about getting famous? 573 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: Uh? 574 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: Well, a lot of weird stuff about it, but it's 575 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: mostly you know, it's mostly pretty exciting, you know. Uh, 576 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't think I really knew how 577 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: to sort of behave, like how to act as far 578 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: as you know, you're used to being kind of. 579 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 2: You know, I was used to being. 580 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: Kind of an underdog kid who didn't have any sort 581 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: of access to anything, and always trying to prove yourself 582 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: to people. 583 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: Hey, you know I can. 584 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to let people see that you have something 585 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: to offer with your comedy or whatever. And then all 586 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the show's big, and you know, you know, 587 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: I think the initial like when I was the story 588 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: I told about Saurday Night Live, the initial instinct is, oh, 589 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: now I have to really go out there and really 590 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: show people, you know, how serious I am this. And 591 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: I think, you know, the truth is is probably it 592 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: would have been better just to have laid back a 593 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: little bit at that point, because you know, you already 594 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: got the job, you know. But uh, and people are 595 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: kind of looking at you a little differently, and there's 596 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: people so but I mean, these are things that you know, 597 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: I think are learning curves that you deal with and 598 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: and uh, kind of first world problems in a way 599 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: like I mean to complain about you know, you know, 600 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: I I it was mostly just my your dreams coming true, right, 601 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden, I'm everything I've ever 602 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: wanted is here. You know, I've got my show and 603 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: my parents don't have to worry about you know, uh, 604 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, giving me money for gas and stuff. And 605 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm uh, you know, I'm I'm but it was definitely weird. 606 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: I kind of fortunate it sort of happened a little slowly, 607 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: but it was it was night and day. Because the 608 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: thing is in Canada, the show was big. I was 609 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: getting recognized in Canada. I wasn't making any money in Canada. 610 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't really. 611 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: It was still kind of a strange little thing that 612 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: I was doing up in Canada. That was kind of cute. 613 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: Well that's cute that kids doing this thing, and they'd 614 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: write an article about it. But when when all of 615 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: a sudden you're on MTV and and doing movies and 616 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: getting commercials and all sorts of things like that, it 617 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: did it did become a lot to uh to kind 618 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: of process for sure. 619 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: Did it affect your mental health to have to outdo 620 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 3: the last thing constantly? Yeah, Like because they've seen it, 621 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 3: so now I got to get crazier, Like, was that 622 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: a struggle mentally? 623 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: I think the thing that was cool about that specifically 624 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: definitely some stuff affected my mental health and my emotional 625 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: sort of you know, uh life. I think that was 626 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: maybe even more to do with a little later, you know, 627 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: when I was sick and things like that. I got 628 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: cut cancer when the show was on, and that that 629 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: got That was where it was started to become too 630 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: much to kind of handle. But but you know, we 631 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: had sort of this We had different types of bitsuited. 632 00:29:59,680 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: On the show. 633 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: So there was ones that were the crazy, gross ones, 634 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: and then we had ones that were more dead pan interviews, 635 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: and so we kind of tried to have different levels 636 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: and layers to the show that it wasn't always just 637 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: about trying to up the ante, but there was that 638 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: feeling like you'd have a bit that would become the 639 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: one that everyone was talking about and that would be 640 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: last for a while. 641 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: You know, everyone you. 642 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: Paint your parents' house plaid, and people were talking about 643 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: it for a few months, and come on, we did 644 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: that three months ago. We got to come up with 645 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: something crazier than that, so, you know, and there's definitely 646 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: ones that I'm glad that I didn't do. I didn't 647 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: put this in the documentary actually, but there was there was, 648 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, we everyone was encouraging me to replicate this 649 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: stunt that somebody had done where they tied a whole 650 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: bunch of helium balloons to a lawn chair, and you know, 651 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: like the guy died, you know who did it originally, 652 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: and they're trying and they were trying to convince, well, 653 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: do it over the ocean, you know, and you know 654 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: literally was trying to get talked into doing this by 655 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: some of my guys that we were writing with and 656 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: writers that we're writing with, and I did not I 657 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: did not want to do that. So you know, there 658 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: was an element for sure of trying to push, push it, 659 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: push the envelope every week. 660 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you talked about in the documentary, the the buster 661 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 3: Keaton very famous. 662 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 4: The front of the house comes down. 663 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 3: He's standing in the right spot, so right that open 664 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: went like legendary. But you doing that stunt yourself, replicating 665 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 3: that and everyone going on, I don't think you should 666 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 3: do this. Insurance said no, but you wanted to do 667 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 3: that one. How nervous were you to actually even though 668 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 3: you're standing on the right spot, but the house was 669 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: coming down on top of me. How nervous were you 670 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: to pull that one off? 671 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: I was. It was a nail bier for sure. 672 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: I mean, just because you know they tested it. 673 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: It was it was it was. I mean, I was. 674 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: As sure as one can be that the house was 675 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: not going to kill me. But I wouldn't have done 676 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: it if I thought there was even a I mean, 677 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: I guess there's always a chance, but it seemed like 678 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: a calculated risk. I was glad when we were finished. 679 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: I was glad it was over. It was the whole 680 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: house too. It wasn't just the frame of the house. Yeah, 681 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: and there was glass in the window to try to 682 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, modernize it. 683 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 2: A little bit. We can get good breakaway glass and 684 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine. 685 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's super cool to do something that you've 686 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: always looked at as legendary, which was why I was 687 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: so excited to watch all the Letterman stuff in the 688 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 3: documentary again grew up. That was like, my guy indulged 689 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: me a bit, talk about why Letterman was important to 690 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 3: you and how cool it was to go on the 691 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 3: show and then also get to host the show. 692 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we I found when I was going through 693 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: all my tapes, I found that moment where where I 694 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: got the call to host Letterman. 695 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 3: So that was just kind of yeah, you're like with 696 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 3: Glenn outside the car and you're like best manager ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 697 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 3: it's really you could see you get emotional, so you 698 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 3: could see it mattered. 699 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was. 700 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: It was a I'd forgotten that tape existed when I 701 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: got the call from Letterman to host, which was this 702 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: was a little later, that was in two thousand and 703 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: three when I was doing a new talk show for MTVS. 704 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: But but. 705 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: You know, in some ways that was more meaningful even 706 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: than the first time I got to be a guest 707 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: on the show. 708 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: But but I. 709 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: Mean he was you know, everyone has sort of one 710 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: hero when they're growing up that they just sort of 711 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: would would just sort of you know that you think 712 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: the world of and you just sort of consume all 713 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: of their material, and and David Letterman was definitely mine. 714 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: And and I think it's it's you know, it's definitely 715 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: got something to do what I was saying about earlier 716 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: about how it was before the Internet and you sort 717 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: of felt like you were discovering something, and you could 718 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: kind of almost made a part of your identity, you know, like, 719 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: I know what this Late Night with David Letterman show is, 720 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,959 Speaker 1: and and I'm you know, I'm different than than everybody 721 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: else who's watching other shows. 722 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: You know, I'm watching this and and this is my thing. 723 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: That of course, millions of people felt that way, but 724 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: it was it was still the the sort of the 725 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: underground talk show. And so yeah, so to get that 726 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: call from him, I mean, you can watch my first 727 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: appearance on the show, and you notice I don't go 728 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: out on the show and going crazy and flip you know, 729 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: costume and go crazy because I was, you know, I 730 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: was out of complete reverence to him. 731 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: You know. 732 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: It's not that I didn't have reverence towards Jay Leno 733 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: and the Tight Show and all that stuff, but I 734 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: was just that was the very first show I'd. 735 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 2: Ever been on. 736 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: It was David Letterman, and I was just kind of 737 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: couldn't even believe that it was happening. 738 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: So I just I was sort of a it's fun. 739 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: When I watched the footage of it, I'm clearly a 740 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: nervous wreck. You know, I'm holding my hand on my 741 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: face and just kind of sort of like a It's 742 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: one of those things where it feels like you're not 743 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: even in your body, you know, you're just like, am 744 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: I even here right now? This is really David Letterman 745 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: was looking at me talking to me, so but I 746 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: know I was incredible. And he was the first person 747 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: to call the show when the show went on MTV 748 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: and asked us to be on. 749 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, and then when you get invited back again, 750 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 3: if it's the second time, then you realize, well, he 751 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 3: must like me, he must not think less of me 752 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 3: after I was on, Like that has to be kind 753 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 3: of a ribbon, right, Yeah, to go on again, because 754 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 3: that means Dave likes you. 755 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and when he let me host was the was 756 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: just unbelievable. 757 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, the fact that he let me take over for. 758 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: The night and and uh yeah, no, it was definitely 759 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: those were those the highlight moments of the whole you know, 760 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: the whole uh experience of the of the show and 761 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: everything was being able to be you know, on on 762 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: on Letterman. That was that was all I'd ever imagined 763 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: or dreamed. 764 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 3: Of because things were happening so fast once the show 765 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 3: took off on MTV. Was there anything in the documentary 766 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 3: footage that didn't make it or did make it that 767 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 3: you were able to see to go, oh, maybe I 768 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: didn't appreciate or understand or have the time to value. 769 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 3: Just I was watching the clip of you and Steve 770 00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 3: Martin Martin Short, Yeah, yeah, that even just owning that 771 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 3: picture like feels like you could look at it now 772 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 3: and go, wow, that is substantial. 773 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 2: And I can't. 774 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: And I look at it, I got I can't believe 775 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: I had you know, you know at the time, I 776 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: did have the balls to do it. But uh, but 777 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: a few weeks later I only had one. But uh, 778 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: like I because I was before I had my testicular 779 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: cancer right before. 780 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: Actually, I got invited. 781 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,439 Speaker 1: On the Martin Short's H Martin Short daytime talk show 782 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: and Steve Martin was the guest and I was the 783 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: second guest. 784 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: So I'm sitting between Steve Martin and Martin Short. Who 785 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 2: are you know two of my heroes? 786 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 4: Right? 787 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: And if you talk about. 788 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: You know the the most you know amazing silly characters 789 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: in comedy and history, it's you know Ed Grimley and 790 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: the Jerk. You know these there are two of their 791 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: big characters that they did and and that's why, you know, 792 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: I ended up. I can't believe I look at that 793 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 1: now and I can't believe I had the the balls 794 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: to which I actually did, to put a you know, 795 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: a cardboard box on my head and just sort of 796 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: completely completely be really silly and try to out silly 797 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: myself and then, you know, then get embarrassed about it. 798 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: And they were really funny if you watched the whole 799 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: we couldn't put the whole clip in, but they were 800 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: really really supportive in a way. It was a really 801 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: funny thing. I remember right before the show happened. You 802 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: gotta keep in mind, I just I'd been living in 803 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: the United States for less than a year at this point, 804 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: and just this whole thing was just kind of unbelievable. 805 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: Still. 806 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: I'd been on Letterman, I've been on Oprah a couple 807 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: of shows, but the whole thing just made no sense 808 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: that I. 809 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 2: Was going on Aren't Short's Show? 810 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: And you know, Steve Martin came back to the dressing 811 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: room before the show and he sort of told me, 812 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: watched a bunch of episodes of the show and everything 813 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: of my show, so so it was they were it 814 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: was hard to believe that that that actually happened. 815 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, your music career again, their parallels with Steve Martin, 816 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 3: who did music and comedy but also is a proficient 817 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 3: banjo player, Like. 818 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 4: He's a real deal musician. 819 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 3: Oh you think at times him and Edie Burkell were 820 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,439 Speaker 3: and still tour and they do serious bluegrass. 821 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 4: But he's also he's. 822 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 3: The first comedian to ever play a stadium, right, And 823 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 3: part of that was he'd plays banjo and but it 824 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 3: was comedy, so there would be this blur of you 825 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 3: wouldn't really know musically what Steve Martin was doing because 826 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 3: he was fantastic technically excellent, but also hilarious with it. 827 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 3: When it comes to your music, I feel like you've 828 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 3: done a similar thing. I expected organized rhyme to be 829 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 3: funny at first, like full, but you guys actually rapped, yeah, 830 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 3: like you technically were good rappers and that's why you know, 831 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 3: like you said, you were nominated for a Juno Award, 832 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 3: Did you win the Junior nominated? 833 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 1: You know, we were just nominated to be you As 834 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: is a rapper named Devon and he had a Canadian 835 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: rapper and he had a song called keep It Slamming 836 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: and it was a big popular hit at the time too, 837 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: so and there was Maestrill Fresh Wes I believe was 838 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: I don't. I think it was Devon that won that year. 839 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, there was the big rapper back then was 840 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: mice Real Fresh West and he usually won those two. 841 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 4: So, but how do you feel about the ambiguity with 842 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 4: you and your music career? 843 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: Because you are proficient, it's always after organized rhyme. It 844 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: always became something that I just have been doing for fun. 845 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: And like I said, when I got when we started 846 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: making these documentary the documentary in the show, you know, 847 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: I produced these shows too, directed them, but also I'm 848 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: producing them with my production company, and so I had 849 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: the creative sort of freedom to decide what the soundtrack's 850 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: going to be. And and you know, during honestly as 851 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: recently as the pandemic, which is getting a little while back, 852 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: but you know, when everything shut down and my stand 853 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: up tour was canceled, I did sort of at that 854 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: time think, well, one of the things I'm going to 855 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: do with all this time is I'm going to actually 856 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: try to really learn how to play the piano. I've 857 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: meant to do it for years, and I start really 858 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: start trying to figure out some more chords than the guitar. 859 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: But I was really focused on that. I always had 860 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: a home studio. But then when I moved back to 861 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: cam Canada and I got this farm, it turns out 862 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: I ended up being sort of you know, uh somehow 863 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: managed to be able to connect with the Tragically Hip 864 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, they're they're just a legendary rock 865 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: band from Canada. And and the late Gordownie was there, 866 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: sort of very poetic and uh, you know, extremely incredible 867 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,919 Speaker 1: frontman of their band, and and uh the band still 868 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 1: owns their studio, the Bathhouse Studio, and uh, and we 869 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: were able to record our soundtrack for for the for 870 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: the uh for the show there and I I've been 871 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: kind of playing with some country musicians who you are 872 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: in the area, in the country out near near my farm, 873 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: and uh, and I just went in and recorded the 874 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: soundtrack initially for the show, and then we just kept going. 875 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: We've just been writing and doing songs for the last 876 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: three years and uh kind of uh, you know, really 877 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: just doing it. I mean, you know, the album really 878 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: was just something that you know, really over the last 879 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: couple of months, decided, Hey, I think I think maybe 880 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: I'll put this out at the same time as the 881 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: as the show, and so that's out there now too. 882 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 883 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 3: I think the expectation was I'm gonna play the music 884 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 3: and hear the absurdity, and then it felt, oh, this 885 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 3: isn't absurd, and is that absurd that it's not absurd? 886 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 3: And so then I'm like been origamiing myself, and in 887 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 3: my mind I made the parallel like I would do 888 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 3: this with Steve Martin's stuff when he was being making 889 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 3: just making music for the sake of making it. Going Wow, 890 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 3: this feels so different because he's being different, and I 891 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 3: am entertained by not quite understanding like where he is 892 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 3: mentally with his music, because because you're not all your 893 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 3: songs are like hilarious. 894 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah purposefully. Yeah, No, for sure, they're very serious most 895 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: of them. There's a couple funny ones in there, for sure, 896 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 1: But I don't I've never really listened to funny music. 897 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I did make the bum bum song, so 898 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 1: the bum bum song was as silly as they get. 899 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: But but but I don't know, it's something about when 900 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: I it could also be. 901 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 2: My limited amount of chords that I know, so it's 902 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 2: you know. 903 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: All these sort of minor chords. 904 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: There's sad chords, you know. But uh, I don't know. 905 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: I think I just uh, when I sit down to 906 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,919 Speaker 1: write music, I always try to write, uh, something that's 907 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: coming from the heart. And a lot of times those 908 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: emotions aren't funny. They're more introspective and thoughtful, thoughtful emotions, 909 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: and those are the words that come to mind. But 910 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 1: and and and you know, writing a soundtrack for the show, 911 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: the show was about coming home and returning home to 912 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: family and and going back to your roots. So I 913 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: wanted to have a nice, sort of real soundtrack to 914 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: the show. 915 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 6: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, 916 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 6: and we're back the Bobby Cast. 917 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 4: I watched your documentary last night. 918 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: Oh wow, awesome, Oh wow, thank you thanks for watching. 919 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 3: I was excited. My wife missed you by a few years. 920 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 3: So she wasn't fully familiar with the MTV show. Yeah, 921 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 3: she had seen some of the other like the movie stuff, 922 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 3: but she didn't know like your whole story. 923 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 2: Yea. 924 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,720 Speaker 4: So always a bit of a risk whenever you recommend. 925 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 3: Any show to anybody, because like, I believe this show 926 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 3: is going to be so good, and so I was like, oh, 927 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 3: but she finished, and she was like. 928 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 4: I'm really rooting for Tom oh right, And so we 929 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 4: watched it last night. 930 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 3: It was it was, it was great, and I had 931 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 3: high expectations and it met all of them. 932 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 2: Oh thanks Bobby, just a fan. I appreciate it. 933 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: You know, it's a it's kind of been a I mean, 934 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,919 Speaker 1: it just came out yesterday, and uh, it's been kind 935 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,720 Speaker 1: of a cathartic thing releasing it because it's very personal 936 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: and and it's uh, you know, it's it's my whole 937 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: life of you know, not just uh, the Tom Green 938 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: Show on MTV, but leading back before it, and I've 939 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: always kept all my footage and I wanted to want 940 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: to tell the story right. 941 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 2: So it was it was cool putting it together. 942 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 3: For sure, watching and we'll jump around a little bit 943 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 3: of watching how you did the show at your house? 944 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 3: Like we've done a show at my house for so 945 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 3: many years, but there have been a couple of times 946 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 3: where people have like shown up drunk or like shown 947 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 3: up to the. 948 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 2: House, Toya and that I'm drunk right now, which. 949 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 4: Is why I brought it up. 950 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 3: But it's like, you know, when you're inviting people into 951 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 3: your house, it's a pretty intimate thing and we have. 952 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 3: We have like a ninety nine percent success rating. 953 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 954 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, was that ever an issue for you where people 955 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 3: would show up to your house and it's like, oh, 956 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 3: I don't know how this feels. 957 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 1: Well that was That was when I was doing my webovision. Yeah, 958 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: and I built the studio in my living room, and uh, you. 959 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 4: Don't just say who it was. I just wonder if, well, 960 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 4: it might have been me. 961 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: Actually, I mean it started it was kind of a 962 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: bit of a wild and crazy show, and you know, 963 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: so I would always have drinks with the guests and 964 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 1: things like that. So so there was times where maybe 965 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: we had a few too many, for sure. 966 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 3: But never somebody showed up with like a like a 967 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 3: big entourage with guns or anything like that. Uh. 968 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: Never guns. No, never guns. That that's one thing we 969 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,919 Speaker 1: ever had to deal with. But there's probably a couple 970 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: of times where we maybe had a few too many 971 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: drinks with I know it was you know, a lot 972 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: of people, actually everybody you know, like you know, but 973 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: I think I kind of I've stopped doing that. I 974 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 1: stopped drinking while on the show. I've decided that experiment 975 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 1: kind of had its run. Yeah, I do stand up 976 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: full time I'm always on the road doing stand up 977 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: and even you know, with stand up, I don't even 978 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: like to have a beer before I go on stage. 979 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: It really kind of affects everything, just the whole rhythm 980 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: of everything. 981 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 4: So that was something. 982 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 3: That I found out knew about you was your very 983 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 3: early beginnings of performance was going to the amateur night. Yeah, 984 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 3: you would go because again, I felt like I knew 985 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 3: a lot. That's why I liked the documentary because it 986 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 3: showed a lot of things that back then there wasn't 987 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 3: social media in the ability to just dial in on 988 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 3: somebody and find everything right and to see that. 989 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 4: How long do you think you and every week? Or 990 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 4: did you go every week to the amateur night? 991 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? I was. 992 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: This was in the eighties, So I was started when 993 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: I was sixteen years old and I started going down 994 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 1: to Yuck. Yucks was the comedy club and still there 995 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 1: and run by Howard Wagman who's still there, and he's 996 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: encouraged me to go on stage when I was a kid. 997 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 1: But i'd go down because I was a big fan 998 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: of Norm McDonald who's from my hometown. And you know, 999 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,359 Speaker 1: that was sort of when I just discovered what stand 1000 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: up comedy was really and it was just so exciting. 1001 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:30,399 Speaker 2: At the time. 1002 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: There was, like you said, no podcasting or internet even 1003 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 1: and and you know the podcast the comedians you'd see 1004 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: would be on the Tonight Show and that was it. 1005 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,280 Speaker 1: And so to be in a live club at sixteen 1006 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: years old. They had a restaurant license, but it felt 1007 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 1: like you were going to a bar, and it felt 1008 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 1: cool to be in a bar at sixteen and then 1009 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 1: eventually ended up getting on stage, and you know, it 1010 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,280 Speaker 1: was Ottawa is a smaller city. It's the capital of Canada, 1011 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 1: but it's there wasn't a lot of comedians. Was probably 1012 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 1: a dozen comedians in Ottawa at the time doing the 1013 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: open mic amateur Night, and everybody really encouraged each other, 1014 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 1: which was always cool. I always found it. I found 1015 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: it was very, uh, a good environment to be creative 1016 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: as in as a young kid. All the other comedians 1017 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: and people in Ottawa were always very encouraging to each other. 1018 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: Norm McDonald as well would come in and after his show, 1019 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 1: so this was before he was on Saturday Night Live 1020 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,439 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and he'd come in and give 1021 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: people tips on their joke writing and performances and stuff. 1022 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: So but yeah, I probably, you know, you'd get up 1023 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: once a week if you were lucky. That was for 1024 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: a few years there, but I didn't. I didn't pursue 1025 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 1: stand up. I stopped doing stand up when I was 1026 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: about like I did it for about three years, and 1027 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 1: then I stopped because I was in a rap group, 1028 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 1: we got a record deal. 1029 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 2: I stopped doing stand. 1030 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: Up for a few years, and then then the after 1031 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: the Tom Green Show was on MTV, I got back 1032 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: into it. 1033 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 3: So the total cliche thing is that when I've been 1034 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 3: to Canada, my show, my radio shows on in different 1035 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 3: Canadian markets, Ottawa one of them. Now, everybody's so much 1036 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,800 Speaker 3: nicer there. And that was the cliche I had heard before. 1037 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,879 Speaker 3: And then we would go even in Toronto, someone would 1038 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 3: come up to you on the street and here You're like, 1039 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 3: what are you going to take for me? And there 1040 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 3: it's like here are you lost? Can I help you? 1041 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 3: And that started to actually exist and you're like, wow, 1042 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 3: people in camp, is it just so cold all the time. 1043 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 3: When you finally get out, you're like, let's just be 1044 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 3: nice to everybody. But it feels like even the creative 1045 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 3: culture there where comedians are encouraging and. 1046 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 4: Like it's not always. It's not like that in a 1047 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 4: lot of places here. 1048 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, although we just had a great 1049 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: conversation with everyone at the waffle house just down the road. 1050 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 4: Well, the South, they're nice. 1051 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 3: It's just the creative part of I just feel like 1052 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 3: it's such a competition. 1053 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, States, it is, especially in in. 1054 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,280 Speaker 2: The bigger cities. 1055 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 1: But you know, I think you can have good experiences 1056 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 1: and bad experiences. And when you're when you're just starting out, 1057 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,799 Speaker 1: maybe you're not as threatening to other comedians when you're 1058 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,800 Speaker 1: just sixteen years old and just trying it out. But 1059 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, I've had you know, I sometimes find too, 1060 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: like when you're from somewhere else, everybody's like when Americans 1061 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: come up to Canada, Canadians are really happy to see 1062 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: Americans and probably want to, you know, show you a 1063 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 1: good time in our country, you know. Uh. 1064 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,319 Speaker 2: And I find that can be true when we when 1065 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 2: we come down here to the South. You know. 1066 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 1: But I got show tonight in Nashville, so I don't 1067 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: want to say everyone here as an. 1068 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 3: Asshole yet give it the night. So it feels there's 1069 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 3: a lot of content. Because I watched the documentary and 1070 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 3: then it was like a four. It was like a 1071 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 3: four part series that what it is, No, can you 1072 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 3: explain what's happening with all the content because you have 1073 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,919 Speaker 3: special have the documentary, the music, listen to the record. 1074 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 3: You kind of walk me through what you listen to 1075 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 3: the record. 1076 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, cool, cool, Well, so it's funny, like, uh so 1077 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: there's these three projects that are coming out on Amazon 1078 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: on Prime Video. And the documentary is sort of the 1079 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 1: story of the show and the history of the show, 1080 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 1: my old show, and how I got to where I 1081 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: am today having moved back to Canada and got this 1082 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 1: farm and this mule Fanny and sort of a new 1083 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,439 Speaker 1: chapter in my life. And then there's a show called 1084 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: Tom Green Country and that's a docuseries and that's more 1085 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 1: about my life now. 1086 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 2: That's a four part series, so. 1087 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: And it's it's really about me settling in on the 1088 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 1: farm and getting my mule Fanny. I didn't grow up 1089 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 1: with with mules and horses and chickens and things like this. 1090 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: So it's been a really fun few years there. This 1091 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: kind of documents the first year on the farm. And 1092 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 1: but I've always loved being out in nature and outdoors 1093 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: and you know, fishing and camping and canoeing, and things 1094 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: like that. 1095 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,399 Speaker 2: So I'm not kind of it's not. 1096 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: Not exactly a fish out of water story where I'm 1097 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: walking around like I don't know how to you know. 1098 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: It's it's a little bit of that because I was 1099 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles for twenty years and now I'm back home. 1100 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 1: But but it's a it's a real fun show. It's 1101 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,839 Speaker 1: it's it's a lot different than my old show, sort 1102 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: of a you know, I'm really trying to. 1103 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 2: Show the you know, the I guess, just the reality 1104 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:06,280 Speaker 2: of what it's. 1105 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: Like being in Canada and my family and and being 1106 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 1: really honest and and open about uh, you know, the 1107 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 1: feeling that I have of returning home after being in 1108 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 1: Los Angeles for so long. So so there's there's a 1109 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: different tone to it. And the music in the show, 1110 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 1: the soundtrack of it. We recorded it all at the 1111 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 1: Tragically Hips studio. It's an incredible band from Canada and 1112 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: uh and in the process of recording the soundtrack, I 1113 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: just started writing some songs and UH and UH really 1114 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: started working on this, uh this music. 1115 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 3: So so I'm assuming not coincidental that at least two 1116 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 3: of the covers I'm a big Beernaga Ladies fan. Yeah, yeah, 1117 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,280 Speaker 3: so I saw a fad a million dollars. 1118 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 4: It's one of my favorite songs for them. 1119 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 3: And then the other one is Brian Adams Summer sixty 1120 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:53,800 Speaker 3: nine both Canadian. 1121 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely not coincidence right. 1122 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: Now, and Gordon Lightfoot Canadian and uh Tragically hip Head 1123 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,840 Speaker 1: by a Central also so yeah, there's four covers of 1124 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 1: four Canadian uh legendary bands on there, and uh, you know, 1125 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 1: we just honestly the album. I just went in and 1126 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: recorded some of those cover songs just uh just two 1127 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,919 Speaker 1: weeks ago, not even a week and a half ago, 1128 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: and we really just kind of posted this just uh 1129 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 1: yesterday or today really so came up on Spotify today. 1130 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,760 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure Brian Adams even knows we covered 1131 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: the song yet, to be honest with you, but you know, 1132 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: we put all the writers you don't, yeah, exactly, So 1133 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 1: it's all I think. I was kind of surprised, you 1134 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 1: know what. It's interesting because I've I've written music sort 1135 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: of for fun since I was a kid. 1136 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 2: You know. 1137 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,919 Speaker 1: When I was a teenager, I was in this rap 1138 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 1: group and we were nominated for a Juno Awards, like 1139 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 1: a Canadian Grammy Award, and we were just silly trying 1140 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 1: to be like the Beastie Boys or something. And I've 1141 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 1: always written music, but I've never really cover songs. And 1142 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: I really really enjoyed doing these cover songs because it 1143 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,240 Speaker 1: kind of it's a lot it's a lot of pressure 1144 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: when you put yourself out there when you're writing songs 1145 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: and you're trying to kind of, you know, say something 1146 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 1: that's that's heartfelt and sincere, and then you know, you 1147 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: sort of can second guess yourself and go, you know, 1148 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 1: just any good you know. So, but when you're doing 1149 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: a cover song, well, I know the song's good. At 1150 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,800 Speaker 1: least I know the song is good, you know, and 1151 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: maybe my performance might not be good, but I know 1152 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: the song is good because these are some of the 1153 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,400 Speaker 1: best songs ever to come out of Canada. 1154 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 3: So do you feel the same vulnerability, because if you're 1155 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 3: writing a song, like you just said, it's the same 1156 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 3: thing with telling jokes and doing a special, you're like, okay, 1157 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 3: judging me. 1158 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,959 Speaker 4: I hope people like what they're judging. Do you feel that. 1159 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 3: With the comedy special the same way you're talking about 1160 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 3: with the original songs? 1161 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 4: A little bit? 1162 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: But the nice thing about stand up is you know, 1163 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: you work it out over time, and you know, I've 1164 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 1: been on the road, you know, for years now, and 1165 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm always sort of sort of slipping new jokes and 1166 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: creating this set that eventually you end up in go film. 1167 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,839 Speaker 1: So by the time you're filming it, you know, you've 1168 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 1: been and performing a lot of these jokes and stories 1169 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 1: in front of audiences for you know, sometimes even years, 1170 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 1: and you know that they work and you know that 1171 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: they're they're good, but you still you still get the nerves, 1172 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 1: you get the anxiety of oh, I could have I 1173 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 1: could flub a word tonight, or I could have a 1174 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 1: bad set. So but you know, having done stand up, 1175 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 1: the longer I do stand up, the more I kind 1176 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 1: of am able to prepare myself for a shoot and 1177 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: I you know, for filming, and I usually find that 1178 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm able to kind of pull it out, pull it 1179 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: out in the in the end. And we only tape 1180 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: that show once. The stand up special that we did 1181 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,799 Speaker 1: is called I Got a Mule. There's a lot of 1182 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 1: mule themes here, but it's sort of they all go together. 1183 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 1: They sort of talk there. Special talks about my life 1184 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,479 Speaker 1: on the on the farm too, and kind of goes 1185 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:49,399 Speaker 1: with the show so, but yeah, we only taped it once. 1186 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,320 Speaker 1: We only did one show in front of the audience, 1187 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: and the last time I did a special was back 1188 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. We shot it in Boston, and we 1189 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 1: taped it twice, and that's sort of normal to shoot 1190 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: it twice due to audiences, but I kind of wanted 1191 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: to just there's a thing that happens when I do 1192 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,400 Speaker 1: stand up at least where I get this nerves nervous. 1193 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 1: I mean, so I'm sort of saying opposite of what 1194 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 1: I just said. I do get nervous, but it happens 1195 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 1: every night. It's a natural thing where I just sort 1196 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 1: of feel it leading up to showtime. 1197 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 2: It's I think it's just playing it through in your head. 1198 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 1: And it's not so much that I'm worried about it 1199 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: not going well. It's more about I'm worried about remembering 1200 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,840 Speaker 1: every little detail of some new jokes or some new things. 1201 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 1: And sometimes in the on the day you're reshuffling around 1202 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 1: what you want to say because you're in a different 1203 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 1: city or whatever. So so so that's but that's the 1204 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 1: fun of stand up, right then you release, You get 1205 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 1: that release, and I find when I did do two 1206 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: shows in a night, or if you're taping two shows 1207 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,879 Speaker 1: to make a special. I find that then you sort 1208 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,839 Speaker 1: of have this feeling of like I've got a safety net, 1209 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 1: you know. If the first show isn't perfect, then I'll 1210 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: du I'll do it in the second show and then 1211 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,320 Speaker 1: and we'll edit it to other and it's this whole process. 1212 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:02,359 Speaker 1: I thought, know, I just want to go out and 1213 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 1: do one show and just like no, no, no plan 1214 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 1: B and H and I leave it all out there 1215 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 1: and that's what we did. 1216 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,759 Speaker 3: So I struggle with feeling super secure. So February my 1217 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 3: special comes out on CMT February fourth. Never done one before. 1218 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, never right. 1219 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 4: I hate it now. 1220 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:20,760 Speaker 3: It has an error, but I hate it now because 1221 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 3: I'm done with it and I'm like, this is not good. 1222 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 1: Well, it's it's normal to not necessarily want to watch 1223 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 1: your stand up special over and over again, like I 1224 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: have a I sometimes have a hard time watching my 1225 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 1: my myself back, you know. 1226 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 2: Because you see every little thing you could do different. 1227 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 3: I'm sure part of the edit and watching the edit 1228 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 3: is like every fraction of every second where it's just 1229 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,320 Speaker 3: like I'm so over me that it's like the promotion 1230 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 3: of it even feels weird because I'm like, I don't 1231 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 3: even know if I believe in it anymore. 1232 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 1: It's probably a good thing, I think now, because if 1233 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,399 Speaker 1: you were too into it then that that might come 1234 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 1: off as a little unlikable too, you know, Like I mean, 1235 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 1: I think I think you can go too far the 1236 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 1: other way, you know, where you're just so into looking 1237 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 1: at yourself that maybe no one else would want to 1238 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: want to look at you know, like. 1239 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:09,839 Speaker 4: The house too. 1240 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 3: We have no more mirrors either. We eliminated me totally 1241 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 3: from the house. 1242 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 1: People like to see that vulnerability, I think can stand 1243 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: up because they want to see an authentic performance and 1244 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 1: they want to see somebody that's being real. And everybody 1245 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 1: feels nervous when they're on stage. So I wouldn't. I 1246 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't worry too much about that. I think that's probably 1247 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 1: a normal thing. A lot of people never look at 1248 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: their specials they go up there. 1249 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 3: I wouldn't if I wasn't a control freak. I think 1250 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 3: with the creative part of it, even with like books 1251 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 3: and stuff like, I never want to read them back 1252 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 3: after I've written them, but I feel like if I don't, 1253 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 3: then I'm going to miss something. 1254 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 4: And regret it. 1255 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 3: So I'm like weighing the two shames, which while I 1256 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 3: feel more shame if I don't do, which is not 1257 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 3: the best place to be. That's what I feel like. 1258 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 3: I'm always balancing out the shame of me not being good. 1259 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know that feeling. 1260 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 3: Was there ever a confidence Was there ever a confidence 1261 00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 3: issue with you creatively? 1262 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh sure. Yeah. I think a lot. 1263 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: Of of what I do comes from that fear and 1264 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 1: challenging myself. And I mean the documentary was an extreme 1265 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 1: example of what you're talking about, because I'm going through, 1266 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, thousands of hours of footage going back thirty years, 1267 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 1: and some of it's just like, WHOA, I can't believe 1268 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 1: I did that, you know, when I was twenty two 1269 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 1: years old, you know, and there's just so much outrageous 1270 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 1: behavior that we were doing on the old Tom Green 1271 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 1: Show on MTV and before and then you know, you 1272 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: look at things that happened, and you know, I was 1273 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 1: when I was first on MTV, and. 1274 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 2: You know, I had this new kind of show, I. 1275 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 1: Guess you would say, which was just outrageous in a 1276 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 1: different way because we were out in the streets shooting 1277 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 1: with video cameras and it was different, and I had 1278 00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 1: this sort of thought in my head that like, I 1279 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 1: always have to be completely wild and nuts every time 1280 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: I go on a show. If I'd go in Conan 1281 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 1: O'Brien or Jay Leno or you know, a talk show 1282 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 1: of some sort, I would feel like I have to 1283 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:15,439 Speaker 1: go just completely, you know, off the rails crazy. And 1284 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 1: so going through the footage, I sort of, oh, boy, 1285 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 1: I should have just toned it down a little bit, 1286 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, because because but you know, it's funny when 1287 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 1: you're looking at yourself twenty years ago and you're thinking 1288 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: I could have done this or I could have done that. 1289 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: And I've had a lot of those those self doubt 1290 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 1: and you know, questioning, you know, should I have. 1291 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 2: Done this or that? 1292 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 1: And making this documentary was that terrifying for sure, to 1293 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,960 Speaker 1: put it all together. But it was also, like I said, 1294 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 1: very cathartic because I get to kind of put it out, 1295 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 1: the story and kind of kind of explain myself in 1296 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 1: a way, you know, this is this is sort of 1297 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: the story that I kind of want people who maybe 1298 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 1: don't know much about me, haven't been following me along 1299 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 1: the last fifteen years, coming to my stand up shows 1300 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 1: maybe sort of remember me from back in the day 1301 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 1: on MTV and don't really understand that a lot of 1302 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 1: what I was doing was a performance or a character 1303 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: I was creating. So so this kind of, I think 1304 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 1: will be nice to kind of set the record straight 1305 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 1: on some of that stuff. 1306 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 3: Were you able to when editing the footage be proud 1307 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 3: of that kid? I get therapy with a whole up 1308 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 3: picture up of me as a kid and go like, 1309 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 3: let's talk to this kid. 1310 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 4: Were you able to have that moment? 1311 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 2: I think so. 1312 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 1: I think it's sort of almost kind of happened yesterday 1313 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 1: when I when we released the doc to the world, 1314 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 1: and sort of this I'm sort of going through it 1315 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 1: right now, even just just the past two days, people 1316 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,160 Speaker 1: are seeing the documentary for the first time. I'm getting, 1317 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 1: you know, texts and emails and calls from friends from 1318 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,520 Speaker 1: that I've known my whole life and family and and 1319 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 1: everybody's really kind of happy that the that the doc 1320 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 1: came together the way it did, and that I'm getting 1321 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 1: this sort of put this out there, and it's just 1322 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 1: sort of big relief for me because it's it's like 1323 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 1: it's been a lot of pent up thinking about this 1324 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,959 Speaker 1: over the last really twenty years, you know, like twenty 1325 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 1: years of going oh boy, you know, I really wish, 1326 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, like like when I hosted Saturday Night Live. 1327 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 1: I got to host Saturday Night Live. Okay, I'm you know, 1328 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 1: twenty eight years old. I guess maybe twenty nine when 1329 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 1: I hosted Saturday Night Live, and you know, the show 1330 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:35,080 Speaker 1: was doing great, and you know, I want to make 1331 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 1: it a wild and crazy episode. 1332 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 2: And but. 1333 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 1: You know, I remember I had two friends of mine 1334 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 1: who were friends from high school, actually were writers with 1335 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 1: me on The Tom Green Show, but really it was 1336 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 1: my friends from high school, and I were, you know, 1337 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 1: coming up with crazy stuff to do with video cameras. 1338 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden we were on MTV and 1339 01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 1: I got asked to come on Saturday Night Live. And 1340 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 1: I asked them make it. I bring my friends from 1341 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 1: the show along. 1342 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 2: Can they do some skits with us? 1343 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 1: And so you know, they said yes, Lauren Michael said yes, 1344 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 1: and they gave us a little office and and now 1345 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,439 Speaker 1: I'm there with my two friends and we're writing these 1346 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 1: sketches and we're trying to push the envelope, you know, 1347 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 1: as far as we can because we're thinking. 1348 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 2: It's got to be the craziest thing, you know. 1349 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 1: But I sort of think in hindsight sometimes I thought, 1350 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,440 Speaker 1: oh geez, you know, I I think some of the 1351 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 1: writers at the show might have interpreted that as I 1352 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 1: brought my own writers and all this stuff, and they 1353 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 1: didn't really understand it was just like kind of me 1354 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 1: kind of trying to you know, include my friends, you know, 1355 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:34,600 Speaker 1: so so. 1356 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 2: Getting emotional, so. 1357 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 1: It's it's weird. It's a weird thing. I do get 1358 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 1: emotional about it because it's like it's weird. You try 1359 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: to do the right thing, and then it gets misinterpreted 1360 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 1: and it's very it's very tough sometimes when when it 1361 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 1: kind of you know, it's it's nice to be able 1362 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 1: to tell this story in a way where Okay, I've 1363 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: been driving all day too, so I'm okay, I'm doing fine, Bobby. 1364 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 3: It feels like maybe they the other writers or performers 1365 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 3: were unfairly territorial, thinking you had other intentions when you 1366 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 3: brought your boys with you. 1367 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 1: It's it's it's a very competitive environment Saturday Night Live. 1368 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,920 Speaker 1: I've found over the last few years, I've seen a 1369 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 1: lot of other people, cast members and stuff doing interviews 1370 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,880 Speaker 1: about their time on the show, and I sort of okay, cool, 1371 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 1: it happens to everybody. You know, everybody's young, they're there 1372 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 1: to prove themselves. You only get so much time on 1373 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 1: the air, and and so then you know, when we 1374 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: came in, we were just you know, kids coming in 1375 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 1: and we're trying to sort of do the same thing, 1376 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 1: but we're just there for the week. I think it 1377 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,920 Speaker 1: might have been taken the wrong way by a few people, 1378 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 1: but you know, all in all, it was a complete 1379 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 1: sort of honor and privilege to have done it. But 1380 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 1: I know the thing that's weird about that episode. Somebody 1381 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,120 Speaker 1: brought it up to me the other day because I've 1382 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,800 Speaker 1: been talking about, you know, the documentary. It's one of 1383 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 1: the weirder episodes. And that's saying something because we're talking 1384 01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:01,480 Speaker 1: about the show that's been done a lot of weird stuff, 1385 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, but you know, this is maybe just a 1386 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 1: little weirder. 1387 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:05,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 1388 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 1: And I'm sort of surprised they gave us as much 1389 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,920 Speaker 1: leeway as they did. Kind of wish they hadn't actually, 1390 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,439 Speaker 1: but uh but no, it's it's, it's, it's it's it's 1391 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 1: definitely a unique episode and people are starting to discover 1392 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,560 Speaker 1: it again on you know, all line and stuff. 1393 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 4: So the Bobby Cast will be right back. Mm hmm. 1394 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 4: This is the Bobby Cast. 1395 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 3: What about four more questions and Mike has a couple 1396 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 3: before we wrap up. 1397 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,920 Speaker 4: What would you say was the most fun. 1398 01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,000 Speaker 3: Micro period of all of your the most fun like 1399 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 3: what did you do where you're like, man, this is 1400 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:49,960 Speaker 3: awesome where you can appreciate it. 1401 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:58,200 Speaker 1: I've been saying this quite a bit lately because it honestly, 1402 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 1: I really am having the most fun I've ever had 1403 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 1: right now. 1404 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 2: It's uh, I. 1405 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:05,600 Speaker 1: Think I just feel like I'm in a place where 1406 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm you know, able to handle and understand what it 1407 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 1: is that I'm doing more. It's I'm not overwhelmed by it. 1408 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 1: It's not it's not on MTV and being thrust into 1409 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,760 Speaker 1: everybody's face, so there's a little bit pressure, less pressure 1410 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:19,440 Speaker 1: and honestly getting to know this. 1411 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 2: This this the. 1412 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 1: Animals that I have, now this beautiful mule that I 1413 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:29,200 Speaker 1: am learning to ride, and it's very peaceful out there. 1414 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 1: And I'm also just recently engaged as well, beautiful fiance Amanda, 1415 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 1: So so my life's kind of coming together and uh, 1416 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 1: in a way that is I'm feeling very settled and 1417 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,400 Speaker 1: moving back to Canada and getting this farm. It's it's 1418 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 1: the first time I've ever lived somewhere where I know, 1419 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,520 Speaker 1: I have no intention to ever leave. I'm not going 1420 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 1: to move somewhere else. I'll be living, you know, at 1421 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 1: this farm for the rest of my life. And and 1422 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's it's very I feel very grounded now 1423 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 1: and having a lot of fun with that. And and 1424 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 1: Amanda's here with me, and we're on we're on tour 1425 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 1: right now. I'm doing some doing our comedy tour across 1426 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 1: the US and driving. We drove down here from Canada 1427 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 1: and we're just having a great time. 1428 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:13,800 Speaker 4: And you've driven the whole way. 1429 01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we drove here. Yeah, we drove, well, we drove. 1430 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 1: Our first show was in Chattanooga yesterday, so that was 1431 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 1: the first show. Yeah, So we just drove down from Canada. 1432 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,320 Speaker 1: Was we took a couple of days. 1433 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 2: It was nice. 1434 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:23,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't believe you drove. 1435 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:24,400 Speaker 2: That's yes. 1436 01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 1: Well, we're actually in my camper van that that I 1437 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 1: got at the beginning of the pandemic. So we're when 1438 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 1: we're when we're on we have some breaks built into 1439 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 1: the UH into the UH tour, and then we're gonna 1440 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 1: go do some some off off grid camping, maybe head 1441 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 1: out to the Grand Canyon and do some photography and 1442 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 1: uh we write some more songs. 1443 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 4: Have you ever been out there to the Grand Canyon. 1444 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:47,360 Speaker 4: You've seen it? 1445 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's one of the things that I am 1446 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:51,480 Speaker 3: and I've. 1447 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 4: Been able to do some cool stuff and see some 1448 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 4: cool stuff, but. 1449 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 3: It's like still in awe of like how massive and magnificent, Yeah, 1450 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,640 Speaker 3: that thing. And mostly I'm just like, I'll google image it. 1451 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 3: I'm good, you know, but like, that's a really cool 1452 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,480 Speaker 3: part of the country in the world that I. 1453 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,720 Speaker 4: Still I would like to spend more time. There. 1454 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 1: Something very mysterious and magical about the American Southwest. And 1455 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,880 Speaker 1: so much of Hollywood was based on, you know, those 1456 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 1: John Ford movies out in Monument Valley and and and 1457 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,640 Speaker 1: when when the pandemic happened, you know, when I was 1458 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 1: sort of isolated there, I got this camper van. It's 1459 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 1: really cool camp I didn't even know these existed, But 1460 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 1: there's these these really cool guys that were on that 1461 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 1: show Shark Tank and they started this Company's two friends 1462 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 1: that started this company in Phoenix, and they refurbished rampro masters, 1463 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:50,600 Speaker 1: right and so it's uh, I've discovered them on the internet. 1464 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 2: It's like Boho Van it's called. 1465 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 1: And then they take a rampro master and they put 1466 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,120 Speaker 1: a fridge in it, and they put solar panels on 1467 01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,760 Speaker 1: the roof and these you know, battery systems in it 1468 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:06,000 Speaker 1: so you can So I kind of discovered that at 1469 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,880 Speaker 1: the beginning of the pandemic, and I would go out 1470 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 1: into the desert. I built a recording studio in the van, 1471 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 1: and I started exploring the because I was living in 1472 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,440 Speaker 1: La at the time, so I'd go out for a 1473 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 1: few weeks out to various places and just kind of 1474 01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,840 Speaker 1: set up camp. And it was unlike anything I'd ever 1475 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:24,880 Speaker 1: experienced before with electronics, where you can when we go 1476 01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:26,559 Speaker 1: shoot videos, you always have to go back to the 1477 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 1: hotel and charge your batteries up at the end of 1478 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 1: the day. But now, all of a sudden, we have 1479 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:34,280 Speaker 1: unlimited battery power and solar power. So so to go 1480 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,639 Speaker 1: out into the middle of some of these beautiful places 1481 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,240 Speaker 1: and just be creative out there was and be able 1482 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,759 Speaker 1: to stay and just you know, run a recording studio 1483 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:46,160 Speaker 1: off grid was really kind of an incredible eye opening 1484 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:47,719 Speaker 1: thing because I went down. 1485 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 2: This rabbit hole. 1486 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,839 Speaker 1: Of all the places that are out in this country 1487 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,639 Speaker 1: that are not even widely talked about, like Native American 1488 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 1: ruins that are just incredible, like incredible. Everyone always talks 1489 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,880 Speaker 1: about Machu Pichu, you know, and and and you know, 1490 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,680 Speaker 1: the pyramids and all of these incredible ancient sites, right 1491 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 1: and people are so interested in But there's so much 1492 01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,920 Speaker 1: of that kind of thing from the same as old 1493 01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:15,360 Speaker 1: as Macha Picchu in the American Southwest. There's a Chaco 1494 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,720 Speaker 1: Canyon in New Mexico is a place that's like a 1495 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:22,599 Speaker 1: pueblo city that was just only discovered in the nineteen fifties. 1496 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 1: It had been buried in this massive stone city like 1497 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,519 Speaker 1: Machu Picchu right there. And so you know, to start 1498 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,600 Speaker 1: discovering this and all the different sort of natural phenomenon 1499 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,080 Speaker 1: and just beautiful landscapes and if you like photography, if 1500 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 1: you like making being alone in a camper van, it 1501 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 1: was really fun exploring that. So I'm taking my fiance 1502 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:45,840 Speaker 1: Amanda out there. We're going to go look at some 1503 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,200 Speaker 1: of our favorite spots and take some pictures. She loves 1504 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,640 Speaker 1: taking photos too, and and hasn't Amanda's Canadian, so she 1505 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,600 Speaker 1: hasn't gotten to see a lot of the country. The 1506 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,599 Speaker 1: first took place I took her was the waffle House 1507 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:57,560 Speaker 1: and National. 1508 01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:01,000 Speaker 3: Nothing is more American and southern. To watch out, everybody's 1509 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,640 Speaker 3: got a gun around here. Ever, it's all of us. 1510 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 3: We're all packing right now. So yep, that's really cool. 1511 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,719 Speaker 3: Two questions. Let talk to me about the dog, Charlie, 1512 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,320 Speaker 3: big dog guy myself and you come up with a dog, 1513 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:14,760 Speaker 3: I love it. 1514 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 4: Rescue rescue. 1515 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's called a potcake dog. 1516 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:23,679 Speaker 1: They're from the Bahamas. They call them potcakes, and they 1517 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 1: basically the local Bahamanian people like they feed the straight 1518 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:30,639 Speaker 1: dogs the burnt rice from the bomb of the pots 1519 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 1: they call them Potcakes' generations of you know, dogs had 1520 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 1: got off the ships and they've become these sort of 1521 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:37,679 Speaker 1: mixed breeds. 1522 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:38,800 Speaker 2: They're really sweet dog. 1523 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,280 Speaker 1: And her name's Charlie because she's named after John Steinbeck's 1524 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,120 Speaker 1: Travels with Charlie in Search of America. And I got 1525 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 1: her right at the beginning of the pandemic where I 1526 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,360 Speaker 1: got the van. And my dad said, oh, that's like 1527 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 1: travels with Charlie, And I said, oh. Steinbeck and he 1528 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,040 Speaker 1: had a camper van and he drove around America and 1529 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 1: he wrote a book about America, and so I did 1530 01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:02,080 Speaker 1: that with my YouTube channel. Whole first year of traveling 1531 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:03,560 Speaker 1: in the van is on my YouTube channel. If you 1532 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 1: scroll back, you can see all these places. I went 1533 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,759 Speaker 1: to Chocoal Canyon and many of these other incredible sights 1534 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,640 Speaker 1: and just made videos. So Charlie's named after Travels with 1535 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 1: Charlie and she's coming back to the desert with us. 1536 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:19,120 Speaker 3: So final question from me, what bit over your career 1537 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 3: have you done that you still think is super funny? Uh? 1538 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,560 Speaker 2: Well, probably the Slutmobile. 1539 01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:30,520 Speaker 4: The car hilarious. 1540 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:31,640 Speaker 2: Can I say that on it? 1541 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:32,080 Speaker 4: You can't. 1542 01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 2: It's funny. 1543 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,240 Speaker 1: It's funny how the world's changed, you know, Like at 1544 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 1: the time we were just saying it openly in Oprah. 1545 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 1: I'd say it, you know, and I was like, I 1546 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,920 Speaker 1: don't know if I would have used that phrasing today, 1547 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,639 Speaker 1: but but you know, it was my parents nineteen ninety 1548 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,040 Speaker 1: two Honda Cord where I painted the you know, the 1549 01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 1: pornographic scene, had an air brushed on their car and 1550 01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,400 Speaker 1: Dad wakes up in the morning, what the hell have 1551 01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,679 Speaker 1: you done to the car? It's you know, it's their reaction, 1552 01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,559 Speaker 1: is really what it was. And that was that was 1553 01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 1: always always the best bits were the ones that had 1554 01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 1: the best reactions. 1555 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,559 Speaker 4: Undercutter's Pizza was so funny. 1556 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 1: One of the best reactions, and that was because that 1557 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 1: was that was one of the I think that may 1558 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 1: have been the first, if not one of the very 1559 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,479 Speaker 1: first videos we shot when we moved to the United States, 1560 01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,120 Speaker 1: and we're in Long Island, and you know, the bit is, 1561 01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,000 Speaker 1: I dress up like a pizza delivery guy. I follow, 1562 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,360 Speaker 1: we stake out a pizza shop. I follow the pizza 1563 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:25,240 Speaker 1: delivery guy. I've got my own pizza, but there's no 1564 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,519 Speaker 1: no toppings on it. I've got a fishing tackle box 1565 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,760 Speaker 1: with new toppings. And then I follow the pizza guy 1566 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,200 Speaker 1: up to the delivery and then as when the person 1567 01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,519 Speaker 1: comes out to I start making the same pizza they 1568 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 1: ordered and try to sell it to them for cheaper, 1569 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,960 Speaker 1: undercutting the competition. Undercutter's Pizza. 1570 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 2: That's the bit. 1571 01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,040 Speaker 1: But you know, we had no idea that the guy 1572 01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 1: who I was delivering the pizza too is like working 1573 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,240 Speaker 1: on his car, you know, and he. 1574 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,600 Speaker 2: Was like sort of a pretty. 1575 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:55,040 Speaker 1: Tough guy, got real Matt Eastern, chasing me with a 1576 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,400 Speaker 1: hammer and screaming at me. And okay, this is but 1577 01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's sort of the reaction was always was 1578 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 1: always what was So those are two a couple of 1579 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 1: my favorites. 1580 01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:04,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the bit where you just lay down 1581 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,519 Speaker 3: and that's all reaction. But you got to have the courage, 1582 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,759 Speaker 3: the nuts to just lay there and let people slowly 1583 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 3: build and then when do you choose just to get up? 1584 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one of the first, one of the 1585 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,160 Speaker 1: first because that was early on in the show, and 1586 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:23,519 Speaker 1: that was one of the first bits that happened. 1587 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,679 Speaker 2: That was really that people started talking about a lot. 1588 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:28,639 Speaker 2: And I used to do that in. 1589 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:33,800 Speaker 1: School, Like I would just basically lie down on my 1590 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 1: face with my hands at my side. Later people called 1591 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:41,240 Speaker 1: that planking, but and just to kind of confuse people, right, 1592 01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:42,920 Speaker 1: it was just sort of a stupid thing I would do. 1593 01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,840 Speaker 1: So then I think that bit was exciting to us 1594 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 1: because we had a wireless microphone and it was the 1595 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,479 Speaker 1: first time we had a wireless microphone. So we realized, oh, 1596 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 1: I can be across the street. We can do a 1597 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,880 Speaker 1: sort of the candid camera type of bit. So we 1598 01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,640 Speaker 1: put the camera up on top of a building and 1599 01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,040 Speaker 1: I just went lay down on a public street. It 1600 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,960 Speaker 1: was a little social experiment. How long till somebody comes 1601 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,479 Speaker 1: and helps me, you know. And it was a long 1602 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,360 Speaker 1: time because we had to speed the footageup because I'd 1603 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,680 Speaker 1: probably line there for twenty minutes before people's came came 1604 01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:10,000 Speaker 1: to help me. 1605 01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,880 Speaker 2: So maybe Canadians aren't that nice. I don't know. 1606 01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,679 Speaker 3: That's that's so funny. I love people like reactions, Mike. 1607 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:16,679 Speaker 3: A couple of questions for Tom. 1608 01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I love the documentary. It kind of reminded me 1609 01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 5: a lot of how many of your quotes have become 1610 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,960 Speaker 5: a part of my vocabulary. Like I can't see tubing 1611 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,559 Speaker 5: without saying tube That's what is the quote that people 1612 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,599 Speaker 5: reference to you the most? They say, that's my favorite 1613 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,000 Speaker 5: Tom Green quote? 1614 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,120 Speaker 2: Uh, well, you know, daddy, would you like some sausage? 1615 01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,200 Speaker 1: That's a big one from from Freddy got fingered h 1616 01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:44,439 Speaker 1: you know, probably tubing, tubing, Tubing is good. I see 1617 01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,439 Speaker 1: the bum bum song gets a lot of references. People 1618 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:51,160 Speaker 1: will sing that. There's always a lot of little sort 1619 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,920 Speaker 1: of melodic things, like people remember the theme song of 1620 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:58,920 Speaker 1: the show. This is Tom yeah, people with yeah yeah. 1621 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:03,040 Speaker 1: So people remember some of those earworms. And there's a 1622 01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,000 Speaker 1: new one that's that's wasn't from the show, but It 1623 01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,640 Speaker 1: was on the show Lol Canada where I sang this 1624 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,880 Speaker 1: song which is sort of what led to my prime 1625 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,600 Speaker 1: show where they have a bunch of Canadian comedians and 1626 01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,560 Speaker 1: in a room and I sang this song delicious Cheese sandwiches. 1627 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,479 Speaker 1: So that's people sing delicious cheese sandwiches to me. You 1628 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,840 Speaker 1: were stuff from road Trip like Unleash the Fury lines, 1629 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,480 Speaker 1: lines from movies I think are pretty pretty common. 1630 01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,720 Speaker 5: To speaking of road Trip, I didn't realize that you 1631 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,960 Speaker 5: work with Todd Phillips on a Pepsi commercial and he 1632 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,799 Speaker 5: went on, you know, direct road Trip directed Hangover Joker. 1633 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,080 Speaker 5: When you guys did road Trip, did he kind of 1634 01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,000 Speaker 5: just let you do you in those scenes? Or what 1635 01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 5: direction did he give you? 1636 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1637 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 1: Well, I wasn't the mouse when I put the mouse 1638 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,040 Speaker 1: in my mouth. That wasn't in the script. So and 1639 01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:54,680 Speaker 1: also the song, the tiny Salmon song that was that 1640 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 1: was pretty interesting because there was a guitar on the 1641 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,360 Speaker 1: set and you know, I know at the time I 1642 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,160 Speaker 1: could play three chords and now I can play four, 1643 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,720 Speaker 1: so it's pretty good. But he said, you know you 1644 01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 1: want you want to write a song, So I wrote 1645 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,080 Speaker 1: that tiny Simon song on my lunch break and then 1646 01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:12,720 Speaker 1: came back and they filmed it, and then they ended 1647 01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:14,400 Speaker 1: up putting that in the soundtrack. So he did let 1648 01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:18,200 Speaker 1: let me have some free reign for sure. And the 1649 01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:23,160 Speaker 1: late great Canadian director producer Ivan Rightman produced the movie, 1650 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,960 Speaker 1: so he actually directed a sort of a couple of 1651 01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,479 Speaker 1: the tour scenes that I was doing as a It 1652 01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,519 Speaker 1: was the tour guide. Ivan Rightman was out sort of 1653 01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,240 Speaker 1: with me doing that, so so yeah, he kind of 1654 01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,559 Speaker 1: let me kind of go a little bit, for sure. 1655 01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,680 Speaker 1: But I mean the most part, I stuck to the 1656 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,679 Speaker 1: script other than you know, those two things. 1657 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like you're rock star touring on your comedy. 1658 01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,120 Speaker 3: I mean, it's all the way until June. And the 1659 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,080 Speaker 3: difference would be if I'm on the road at all, 1660 01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,439 Speaker 3: I do Thursday, Friday Saturday or Friday Saturday come back. 1661 01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like you're out. 1662 01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:51,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1663 01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean all the way and you guys will 1664 01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,320 Speaker 3: put it up in the notes as well, but all 1665 01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:56,360 Speaker 3: the way until June. 1666 01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:57,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you guys are just here. 1667 01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1668 01:16:58,400 --> 01:16:59,720 Speaker 1: Well, no, I have a couple of breaks in there, 1669 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,519 Speaker 1: and there's few breaks in there we're gonna but but yeah, 1670 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,080 Speaker 1: for the most part, it's pretty pretty intense tour. 1671 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:05,599 Speaker 2: But it's good. 1672 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,360 Speaker 1: It's fun, you know. Like I said, we're traveling in 1673 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,439 Speaker 1: the in the you know, on the road, not getting 1674 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,400 Speaker 1: on the airplanes. It's it's just nice. The shows are 1675 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,759 Speaker 1: close together. We're in Chattanooga last night, in Nashville tonight, 1676 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:19,200 Speaker 1: onto Dallas, Tulsa, Oklahoma City. Then will be at Joe 1677 01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,000 Speaker 1: Rogan's Comedy Club, the Comedy Mothership, and then Houston and 1678 01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 1: we get a little break and then we pick it 1679 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:27,360 Speaker 1: up again in Colorado. But yeah, it's uh and it's 1680 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,759 Speaker 1: it's fun because I'm playing a lot of music venues 1681 01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,640 Speaker 1: this time as well. So I have my guitar with me, 1682 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,200 Speaker 1: So I'm start out the show with with you know 1683 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,080 Speaker 1: stand up and do you know full stand up. 1684 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,160 Speaker 2: Set, and then I pull out the guitar. I'll play the. 1685 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,200 Speaker 1: Tiny Salmon song and and do some fun songs and 1686 01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,439 Speaker 1: then kind of ended off with a few of my 1687 01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,320 Speaker 1: uh more songs from the record. 1688 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so everybody check out this is the Tom Green documentary. 1689 01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,760 Speaker 4: Loved it. The Amazon Prime specials. 1690 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,519 Speaker 3: Those are the It's a It's a at your House. 1691 01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,360 Speaker 4: I mean, it's like life now. It's a four part. 1692 01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,599 Speaker 2: Three four part Yeah, Tom Green Country, and then. 1693 01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,080 Speaker 4: That's not out yet because I haven't seen so that 1694 01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,240 Speaker 4: comes out on the thirty first, gotch So it'll be 1695 01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:05,919 Speaker 4: out when this Yes, yeah. 1696 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,519 Speaker 1: And there's a stand up special two that comes out 1697 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 1: in a couple of days, so it's the documentary. Then 1698 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,840 Speaker 1: there's a stand up special which is called I Got 1699 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,360 Speaker 1: a Mule, and then the show Tom Green Country comes 1700 01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:15,120 Speaker 1: out on the thirty first. 1701 01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:16,839 Speaker 2: They'll all be out by the next. 1702 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,920 Speaker 3: Week and take it to the toy you get him 1703 01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,120 Speaker 3: at Tomgreen dot com. 1704 01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:21,080 Speaker 4: Tom. 1705 01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 3: Thanks and I'm sure I've stolen hundreds of things from 1706 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,280 Speaker 3: you without even realizing it over the years, like no doubt, 1707 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:28,479 Speaker 3: So thank you for all that. 1708 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:30,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, Bobby. I mean, it is so cool. I mean, 1709 01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,000 Speaker 1: I you know, I sort of rolled the dice and 1710 01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:35,600 Speaker 1: hit you up on Instagram and said I'm going to 1711 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,040 Speaker 1: be in Nashville and I'd love to come on your show, 1712 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:39,799 Speaker 1: and you just it was so cool that you got. 1713 01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:40,479 Speaker 2: Right back to me. Man. 1714 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,240 Speaker 1: It was such a that's awesome, man. It's just an 1715 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,360 Speaker 1: honor to be here in your an amazing place, and thank you. 1716 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,200 Speaker 4: I just gud You're real and not a scam. 1717 01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,599 Speaker 3: I fell for those Nigerian prince things way too many times, 1718 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:53,320 Speaker 3: So that's what I thought you might have been. 1719 01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's real, he's really here. 1720 01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, next time I'll send a Nigerian prince just for 1721 01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:58,280 Speaker 1: thank you. 1722 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,400 Speaker 4: I'm more comfortable with that. Yeah, give him my account 1723 01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:01,640 Speaker 4: number and we're just good after that. 1724 01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,880 Speaker 3: Go to Tom Green dot com, get tickets to the tour, 1725 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:09,040 Speaker 3: and go to Amazon. The documentary is great and there's 1726 01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:10,280 Speaker 3: just a lot of Tom Green content. 1727 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,400 Speaker 4: Love to see it. Tom. Thank you for coming by. 1728 01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:16,240 Speaker 6: Thanks Bobby, thank you, thanks for listening to a Bobby 1729 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:17,080 Speaker 6: cast production.