WEBVTT - 2. The Arrest 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:05.680 Murder on Songbird Road is a production of iHeart Podcasts. 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:09.800 Previously on Murder on Songbird Road. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:12.600 I thought she was guilty at first, as I reading 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:13.280 what the news that. 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:17.720 In Marion, Illinois, an eleven year old girl brutally stabbed 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:23.440 death her father's longtime living girlfriend, maintaining innocence, but charged 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:24.279 with her murder. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:29.120 A few hours ago, I charged Julia Beverley, aged twenty nine, 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:33.400 of eleven three or four Songbird Road, Marion, with three 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:37.880 counts a first degree murder the murder of Jade Murray Beasley, 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:39.440 an eleven year old girl. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:45.800 Most people that kill have a reason, a motive. There's 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:49.480 always a motive something, and it doesn't exist here. 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.560 It's scary because the person who did it is still 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:57.160 out there and nobody seems. 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:14.959 To carened Pacheco and this is murder on Songbird Road. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.920 According to Jade Marie Beasley's obituary, the sixth grader was 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:33.720 remembered as funny, smart and sassy, fond of playing outside 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:38.200 and swimming. She enjoyed art, drawing, painting, and video games. 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.720 The photo that accompanies the remembrance is the same one 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.800 used by the Williamson County States Attorney when he announced 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:49.160 her murder, showing a beaming young Jade bespeckled in pink frames, 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:53.400 her face framed with a golden bob accented with pink highlights. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.640 She's sporting a pink beaded necklace and garments and a 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:01.360 matching hue. Jade's obituary goes on to state that she 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:05.360 loved her friends, adored her pets, and cherished her siblings 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:10.840 nut before listing surviving family. Missing from that list is 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:15.240 the woman who considered herself Jade's stepmother, Julia Beverly, although 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:19.600 Julia's son Jaden, is listed as Jade's brother, but from 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:23.520 the day of Jade's murder, Jaden's life would be forever altered. 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.480 He wants in living with his mom and his two 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:34.120 younger sisters. He lived with me in Carverdale, which is 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:38.040 twenty miles away from Marriam. Pretty much, you know, we 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.400 get to see his siblings not being in the same house. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.200 It was obviously bad sad for him that it was 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:45.800 in an entirely different situation. 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:50.600 That's Stuart, the biological father of Jaden, Julia Beverly's eldest son. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:54.440 The weekend Jade Beasley was murdered. Jaden was staying with him. 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:56.280 Now, I was gonna have him for a weekend, and 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.480 then he was going to go back Sunday afternoon evening, 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:00.080 I got a call. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:01.000 From like DCFS. 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:05.680 DCFS, for those not familiar, is the Department of Children 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.120 and Family Services in Illinois like. 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.359 Kings Custody right then, so pretty much, you know, he's 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:12.720 just visiting for the weekend. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:14.920 Then he was with me. 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:20.600 As Will further explain, DCFS would basically prohibit Julia Beverley 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:25.040 from physically interacting with her children pending the investigation, so 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.400 Renee high Tower would be the one who broke the 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:30.600 news to her grandson Jaden in person. The night of 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:31.080 the murder. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:32.919 I told his dad that I was coming over that 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.080 I wanted to tell him, and he said okay. And 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.320 I got there and I told him that something happened 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:43.320 at his house. I said, a man broke in and 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.280 his mom is okay. And I said, budd he hurt 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.240 your mom and he hurt Jade. And I said, but Jade, 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.520 he heard her too bad. So he's looking at me 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:56.080 and I said, he's looking a little confused, and I said, 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.880 Jade is no longer with us. You can see him 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.160 kind of trying to swallow those tears, you know, And 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.640 that's why I told him, I said, it's okay, it's priging, 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:08.680 you know. So that's when he just let it out 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:12.320 and hug me, and he was just crying his arms 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.480 for a little bit, and I told him that his 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.000 mom was going to call him and he could talk 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:21.240 to her, and they talked for a little bit. I'm 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.600 not one hundred percent on what Julie was saying to him, 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:26.039 but I could hear a little bit of it. How 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:28.599 much she loves him, and he's going to stay with 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:33.279 Stuart for a while until things get figured out, and 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.520 he said okay, and she calmed him down a little bit. 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.520 We will dive much more deeply into this later, but 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.320 Julia Doveley wasn't the only one cut off from her 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.919 two youngest daughters and the son she was unknowingly carrying 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.160 at the time of the murder. Her eldest child, Jaden, 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.680 would lose not only his stepsister Jade and his mother, 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:58.240 but eventually all access to his younger siblings. So would 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.960 Renee high Tower, their maternal grind who had been petitioning 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.599 for visitation when we first connected back to Stuart. The 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.480 Department of Children and Family Services and Jaden. 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.200 DCFS wanted to talk to him, and I'm like, well, yeah, 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:13.920 tell him truth, don't lie. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.159 But there wasn't anything, you know. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.200 TCFS talked him for like half hour and they were like, yeah, okay. 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:20.440 Well we'd left to interview. 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:25.240 But there's no signs or anything of abuse or neglect 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.280 or anything like those lines. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.360 Which wasn't keeping with all the years Stuart had co 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.440 parented Jaden with Julia Beverly. 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.800 They never had a bad thing to say about his mom. 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.600 He was always you know, she was always nice and 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:43.400 loving and caring. There was no abuse. We never said anything, 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:47.560 no mark nothing. I mean even later on then when 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.360 he had his younger sisters and other stuff, he never 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.000 you know, he never had anything bad to say about her. 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.559 Suddenly the sole parent in terms of Jaden's day to day, 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.880 Stuart had to manage the passage of time with his 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:04.600 young son's relentless optimism that his mother's incarceration was temporary. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.280 It took two years for the Troy where I mean it, 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.480 it was a drug out so long, and as sometimes 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.360 he was telling people that, oh well, once my mom 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.720 gets out, I'm going back. Even before the trial, he 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:17.960 was telling friends or his cousin like, well, I'm going 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.400 to go back soon my mom gets out, we're back here. 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.000 There're like, well, I know that's what you want. But 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.479 even if she gets out, nothing will be the same. 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.440 Jaden's father has tried to help him navigate his new 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.279 reality an uncertain future. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:34.880 We even talked about stuff like with the news, like 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.359 there's people that are, you know, innocent, locked up and 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:42.159 then you know years later then they're like, oh yeah, whoops, 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.000 you got the thrown person. Even if your mom gets out, 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.360 it's not going to be the same. It's still it's 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:49.640 going to be different, you know everything. Kind of like 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.880 try to tell him like your grandma might be too optimistic. 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:54.760 You kind of need to be in the middle. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.560 Because I don't think she did it, but you know what, 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.880 if she's been in for so long, it's like there's 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:02.599 a possibility she doesn't. In his reality, things you're going 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.479 to go back to normals like that will never go 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:05.240 back to normal. 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:10.640 If there was a magic wand waved tomorrow and Julie 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:16.960 was out, you wouldn't have any reservation whatsoever about Jaden 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:17.560 being with her. 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:19.240 No not right. 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:23.160 I mean, like I've told him, it's like I don't 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:24.240 think she did it. 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:25.960 They've never found a weapon. 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:29.040 Or it's like if you step somebody that many times 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.440 you would have blood splatter with you know, like where's 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.600 the change clothes, where's this, where's that? 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.480 Yeah? Never made sense, Still doesn't make sense. 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:41.280 The accusation that Julia Beverly brutally stabbed her stepdaughter is 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:46.040 particularly nonsensical to Beverly's cousin Nicki, who witnessed not only 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.360 Beverly grow up but eventually interact as both the mother 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:50.200 and stepmother. 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.800 She loved all her children, even the ones that she 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.240 didn't give her to. That is one thing that she 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:57.760 is extremely good at. 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:02.640 Nicki says she knows Julie extremely well, even for cousins. 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.720 She's my maid of honor. He's my best friend. Julia 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.680 has been my best friend since since she was born. 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.640 I am a little bit older, but we grew up 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:17.640 together and did everything together. We ama staying cheerleading from 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.840 little league, you know, all the way through high school. 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.640 We went to the same high school with each other 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.880 pretty much like every weekend at least. We were also close. 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.760 There was between me and my siblings, and her and 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:31.720 her siblings, who were seven of us, run around my 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:33.640 grandma's house all the time, so we. 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:34.360 All grew up together. 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:38.199 We were all extremely close, particularly Nicki and Julia. 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:40.680 We can look at each other and not say a 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:42.200 thing and know exactly what the other one. 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.839 Is saying, which is why Nicki was the first to know. 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.080 When Julia found out she was expecting her first child, Jaden, 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:50.400 while still in high school. 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:51.600 She was really young. 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.640 I think she was about to be eighteen, and she 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.600 hid it from us for a bit because she was scared, 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.200 and then obviously you couldn't hide it. She did it 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.800 on her own for a few years, and still his 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.240 dad kind of came back into the picture and have 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.080 more of a presence. I don't want to say she 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.800 struggle with it, but it's just like any new transition. 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.040 I know that I did whenever I had my first child. 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:16.080 It's hard. 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.400 It's difficult to do it at such a young age. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:22.320 I can't even really imagine. She pretty much had to 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.240 drop everything to become a mom. She was a great 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.120 mom and changed her because you're seventeen and you just 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:28.640 got to drop all the things that you think are 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.800 the most important. Things in your life, like your daily 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:32.400 high school life that you think is going to be 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.280 your entire life, or going and hanging out with friends 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:39.520 on the weekend. Just fully committed to being a mom, 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.960 and she was there doing it on her own with family, 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.880 but on her own, which had to be extremely hard, 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.360 but she loved them compleatly. 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.880 Home video show Jaden as a toddler playing rock band 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.800 with a young Julia Beverley jamming on a small plastic 0:09:55.800 --> 0:10:05.840 guitar as Jaden sings lead. Their energy is loving and 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:09.760 relaxed and natural, as is the clip of Beverly and 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:14.160 Jaden still a toddler, enjoying the first flakes of a snowfall. 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:24.760 So snowball. 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:28.440 When Nicki and her parents moved from Marion to Massachusetts, 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:32.280 Beverly eventually followed, living with Nicki for a period of time. 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.760 Jaden was two when she moved out here. 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.120 I had to be like twenty or twenty one, because 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.120 I had met my husband at the time. 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.679 She had Jayden out here, Jesus me, Julie and Jane 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:43.960 living together. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.840 And so she went back after a few years. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.120 Yes, yeah, I would see. I say it was probably 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.200 about a year or so. It was it was just 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:52.480 a little hard. 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.280 Like we were We were here to help her obviously, 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.360 you know, but it was hard for her, I think, 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.600 just being so far away from her own mom. 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.240 It was soon after Beverly returned to Marion that she 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.280 met and started dating Mike Beasley. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:09.640 She was extremely excited when she met him because he 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.520 had a daughter who was the same age as Jaden. 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:16.400 So she was excited because she being a single mom, 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.720 she thought that it was going to be extremely hard 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.559 to find somebody to be with. So when she met 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.240 Mike and found out that he also had a daughter 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.400 who was the same age, it was almost kind of 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:29.720 like amazing because their kids good play together, you know, 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.679 and they both kind of have the same situation going on. 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.360 So she was extremely happy when she met him. 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:41.439 Never Lily voice otherwise with me. Theyble together for eight years. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:46.680 She actually came to visit you more than once with Jade. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:47.439 Yes. 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:52.480 Yeah, so she came with Mike and Jade and Jaden, 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:54.360 and they came a couple times. 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.320 They stayed with my mom one time, and then they 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.199 came out again for our wedding. 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:04.760 Just tell me a little bit about your observations as 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:11.960 to how Julie welcomed Jade into her life and their 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:13.240 relationship dynamic. 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.840 She was obviously extremely, very wealthy. 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:21.480 When you come in as the girlfriend, you know, she 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.520 never overstepped any sort of boundaries with her, but she 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.880 was very much their always there to talk to you, 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.880 to be supportive of. July treated her like her own, 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.400 buy things for her as if it was her own child. 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.320 Never had any sort of complainants about her. They came 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:39.439 pretty close. 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:39.959 To the point. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.319 I think she would prefer to stay at Mike and 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.320 Julie's house over her mother's house. Just from when I 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.960 was told. She had her own space, had her own room. 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:55.480 She was included in all family functions, all things the holidays, pictures. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:55.800 And things like that. 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:57.480 So I mean she was very much a part of 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:01.560 the family, even though they weren't head completing that they 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:02.120 were family. 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.640 Photos that Renee high Tower has shared appear to back 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.560 up this assertion, as does Julia Beverly's still existing social 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:14.120 media Her Facebook cover photo, now updated by Renee, boasts 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:18.559 a banner with hashtag I Stand with Julie. Underneath is 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.720 a clausee of seven photos, four depicting Jadon and Jade 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:25.160 over the years. One shows a very pregnant Beverly as 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.520 she smiles, her arms warmly wrapped around the backs of 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.319 each step sibling as they bind down to kiss her 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:35.720 large expectant belly. Julia and Jade are both wearing similar 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.840 shades of bright purple, which pops against the green of 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.760 the grassy background. Another photo shows Jade and Jaden in 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.520 front of a colorfully lit Christmas tree. They appear to 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:49.440 be around age six, with their arms affectionately draped around 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.840 each other's shoulders. Jaden, the shorter of the two, is 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.920 lifting his head up towards the camera, wearing a wide grin. 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.560 Jade is kicking one leg up to the side in 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:03.160 a cheeky pose. They're adorable, as are all the siblings 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.800 shown together, especially in photos that depict the two youngest 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.040 girls being proudly and tenderly held by their big brother 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:13.800 and sister. Jaden and the younger girls all shared Julia's 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:18.160 broad smile. A deeper dive into Julia Beverly's Facebook history 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.840 reflects the ongoing yearly tradition of posting Jaden's back to 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:27.240 school photos alongside Jades. Also reflected in past years is 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:31.280 the blended family's apparent love for somewhat themed Halloween costumes, 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:36.200 all while juggling a job that, like motherhood, required patients. 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.040 As a customer service representative for Hyatt, Beverly was used 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:44.840 to diffusing disgruntled people's frustrations in a calm, respectful, and 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:45.680 efficient manner. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.440 She was actually incredibly patient, probably more patient than me. 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:51.440 Motherhood was everything to her. 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.280 I mean, she did work from home, so she still 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.920 had a job as far as like bringing in money 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.280 into the household, I'm pretty sure she was also the 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:03.000 primary breadwinner, but she worked from home as a way 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:06.920 to still be extremely present and available to her children. 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.600 Every waiting moment was dedicated for her children. 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.840 It is of note again that Mike and Julie were 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.600 together for nearly eight years and had already purchased wedding bands. 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.800 They had planned for both of their daughters and were 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:24.040 trying for a third, hoping for a son. Mike shared 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:28.400 custody of Jade with her biological mother, Jessica. Before the murder, 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.760 there had never been any reports of Beverly being violent 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:35.560 or abusive to any of her children, including Jade. If 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:39.120 there had been, it's doubtful that her father would have continued, 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:41.720 not only to live with Beverly, but to plan on 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:47.000 having more children with her. Murder on Songbird Road will 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:53.640 return after the break. Now back to Murder on Songbird Road. 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:02.040 Everything would change when Jade was murdered. Here's Renee's recollection 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.800 of picking up Beverly at the police station the night 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.880 of the murder and the days leading up to her rest. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.720 Tell me what that car ride back from the station 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:12.840 with Julie was like. 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.680 Well, she was telling me the story and I was 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.920 just in disbelief and I was like, oh my god, 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.040 You've got to tell Mike. They're under the impression this 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.520 was suicide. And she's looking at me confused, like what 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.560 I was telling her? What was being said to me? 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:29.560 And I was wont through the story and she's just 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:33.440 shaking her head and she's crying, and she's telling me 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.840 how this man came in the house and she said 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:39.000 nobody should ever have to see that. She said, no 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:43.400 parent should ever have to see that. It was quick ride, 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.240 ten minute ride. We got in the house and she 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.480 sat down and my mom was hugging her, and my 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.880 mom was crying and made her cry some more. And 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.240 then her brother came and he just grabbed her and 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.240 hugged her, and then she lost it again, crying more. 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.040 And then my mom's just sitting there rubbing her back, 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.280 and she just kept saying, I should have just took 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.040 her with me. I should have just took her with me. 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.280 And my mom's telling her, you can't blame yourself, Julie, 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.520 you can't. I can't put this on you. She still 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:17.280 had the jail uniform on the little jumpsuit they gave 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:18.760 her because they took her clothing. 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.160 When Beverly agreed to be questioned at the Williamson County 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:26.600 Sheriff's Department without a lawyer present, she also willingly consented 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.960 to the collection of DNA from both her person and 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:34.160 her articles of clothing. We'll dive much more deeply into 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.840 issues with how that DNA was collected later. 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:41.040 Back to Renee, I got some of my clothes, gave 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.720 her some little sweatpants, stretch pants and leggings and a 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:48.920 hoodie to wear, and she went in the shower and 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:51.080 she was in there for a little while. I want 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:52.680 to check on her, and I can hear her crying 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:57.040 in there, and she told me after she was in 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:00.879 their crying because she had blood on the bottom of 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:04.280 her feet, and when she got in the shower, the 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.160 kind of brought it back. 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.600 This is actually an important detail. Jade was murdered on 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.760 an unseasonably warm day, and Beverly had been wearing flip flops. 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:18.159 At some point she'd flipped them off and likely walked 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.439 through blood at the crime scene. Back to Renee, she 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.520 got out of the shower, I said, you have to 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:24.040 tell Mike. 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.679 We ended up driving back to Marion to go to 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.800 Mike's parents house. Called him on the way and said 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:32.640 we were on and way over and he said, well, 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.120 DCFS just called him. They're about to be here too, 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.520 so you might want to wait a minute. And I said, well, 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.000 we're right down the street. So and we ended up 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.760 pulling up almost right at the same time as DCFS, 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.760 and we sat in the car. It was me, Michael, 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:46.440 and Julie. 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:51.639 Quick clarification. Michael is Julie's older brother and an aviation 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.760 mechanic with the US Navy, not to be confused with 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.160 her boyfriend and then fiance, Mike. 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.400 We sat in the car. Cindy Maguire was her name 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:05.040 from DCFS. She came over to the passenger side of 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.720 my vehicle to talk to Julie, and that's when she 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:13.240 informed Julie that she cannot see her children, and she 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.399 lost it again and she's like no, She's screaming no, 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.040 because at this point, all she wants to do is 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:24.480 hug her family, her children. After some tragedy and horrific 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:29.520 tragedy like this, she wants to hug her children, hug 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:31.600 Mike and grieve. 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:33.960 What did they tell her. 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:38.159 They said that its protocol is how they termed it, 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:42.280 that she has to have no contact with her children. 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:46.480 She can have a video visit once a day for 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:51.680 fifteen minutes and that's it. That's the contact she gets 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:56.240 with her children until this is resolved. So she had 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:59.959 a sign of paper to where Mike gets temporary customer 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.840 of the children so they don't become wards of the state, 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:08.679 and she agreed to let them stay with Mike. She 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.280 asked if she could talk to Mike, and they said, well, 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.800 we're going to talk to him first and then we'll 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:15.480 see if he wants to come out and talk to you. 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.280 So they were in there for a good twenty thirty minutes. 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:22.080 Mike came out and as soon as Julie seen him, 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.240 she jumped out of my car. And ran to him 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:29.720 and hugged him, and he hugged her back, and they 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:32.760 were both you could see they were both crying. And 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:36.640 then I can see Julie talking to him and then 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:40.880 he and this is what me and Michael found really strange, 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:45.120 is the way he was consoling Julie. His immediate response 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.720 was to hug her, and he did. And then after 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:50.639 a while he steps away while she's talking and he 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:54.919 lights a cigarette. And then he's smoking his cigarette and 0:20:55.000 --> 0:21:00.199 he's still close to Julie and then he puts one 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:07.000 arm around her shoulder, almost like resting his arm, almost 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:10.200 like he had to do it to put up a front. 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:15.159 It didn't look like a comforting hug that she needed. 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:19.920 It just looked like he was just going through the motions. 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:23.080 And I'm watching this, and I said to Michael, and 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.680 he's like, well, maybe it's because he smoked a cigarette. 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.000 He doesn't want to because Julie don't smoke, you know. 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:29.719 And I was like no, no, I said, look at 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:34.160 his options and he was looking away from her, smoking 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:41.400 his cigarette, and just it was weird. And Julie said 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:44.480 she was just going through like a brief summary of 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:49.360 what happened. It was just an odd behavior, consoling her 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:50.639 for like ten minutes. 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:55.280 In Renee's opinion, Mike was already doubting Beverly's innocence the 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:59.040 night of the murder. Subsequent events would reinforce her opinion 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:02.639 and had even more painful layers to this tragedy. 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:05.159 They talked, and she got back in the car, and 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:08.960 she was just upset. And for the next three or 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.720 four days she got to talk to Mike once a 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:14.640 day for fifteen minutes. On the very first phone call 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:17.720 she got to FaceTime with the girls. 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:21.240