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Speaker 1: is up Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire

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Speaker 1: for Wednesday, May tenth, and folks, you know, there's sometimes

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Speaker 1: there I come on the podcast and I've got to

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Speaker 1: take and take a W because I like to take

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Speaker 1: I do a good job, and when I call out

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Speaker 1: Lonnie Walker needs to play more than Lonnie Walker delivers,

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Speaker 1: I feel pretty damn good. And then there are days

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Speaker 1: like today where your boy gets on the mic, he's

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Speaker 1: got to hang his head a little bit. Because I

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Speaker 1: have been backing the Boston Celtics to win the title,

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Speaker 1: come out of the East, destroy the Sixers, and I

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Speaker 1: felt really good about Boston on Tuesday night and I

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Speaker 1: drive to take my daughter somewhere, oh basketball, And then

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Speaker 1: I come back and I call up the score on

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Speaker 1: my phone. I'm like, oh, Celtics are down early on

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Speaker 1: what's going on here? You have to go drive? You know,

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Speaker 1: we're chauffeur's parents at this age. I just go to

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Speaker 1: the game and I'm like, boy, this is weird. Boston

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Speaker 1: not looking good, and folks, it just never turned around.

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum kind of struggled. I'm not gonna blame him.

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Speaker 1: You know, Tatum is my guy. He's a top five

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Speaker 1: player in the league. I will defend that. You guys

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Speaker 1: can come at me. That's fine. I've got tons of AMMO.

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Speaker 1: all the EMO in the world. Like Tatum. Let's not

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Speaker 1: bash him because he's he had another semi roughgat. Now listen,

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Speaker 1: he finished with thirty six and ten and he got

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Speaker 1: to the line thirteen times, like he's just not as

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Speaker 1: efficient as normal. And the seventy six ers put a

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Speaker 1: beat down on Boston, almost leading wired to wire in

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Speaker 1: a stunning, stunning twelve point win, putting the Celtics on

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Speaker 1: the brink. And if anybody in America tells you they

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Speaker 1: had Boston and Milwaukee getting bounced before the conference finals,

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Speaker 1: they are lying. Nobody had this, folks, nobody on planet Earth.

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Speaker 1: I did not like the Bucks coming into this postseason.

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Speaker 1: In the player points pool, I didn't take any Bucks.

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Speaker 1: I only got one Celtic Brogden and it was a

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Speaker 1: If they go, okay, they got this and Philadelphia is

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Speaker 1: not going away. And I've got to give the man

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Speaker 1: some props. Joel Embiid, the guy who I've been lambasting

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Speaker 1: he hasn't been Jokic good, but Joel Embiid has been

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Speaker 1: wasn't awesome in Game four when Harden carried them late. However,

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Speaker 1: last night thirty three and seven. And this is the

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Speaker 1: number that you need to look at the free throws, folks.

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Speaker 1: He's getting to the line double digits every game. Eleven

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Speaker 1: Joel Embiad's a problem. I thought Boston had this figured out.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen minutes, didn't block a shot? You know who blocked

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Speaker 1: And Tobias Harris is chipping in seven of ten efficient

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Speaker 1: it felt like at halftime we're like, listen, we're trying

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna give We're gonna give Maxie the green light, folks.

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Speaker 1: James Harden eight shots, Tyrese Masey twenty one, Tobias Harris ten,

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Speaker 1: That's just too good. That Philly Union LAFC match was amazing.

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Speaker 1: Can the Sixers break that streak? And listen, I know

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Speaker 1: Rob g loves when I say, hey, I got it

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Speaker 1: can Joel Embi get to a conference finals? Conference finals

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Speaker 1: the Celtics were down three to two to the Bucks

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum was just otherworldly. I don't remember the exact

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Speaker 1: the Sixers, the Sixers are one win away from the

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Speaker 1: And it was pointed out to me yesterday and I

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Speaker 2: I think the more that you deep dive into what's

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Speaker 2: This has been a trend with the Boston Solace going

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Speaker 2: back to last season. It's part of the reason why

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Speaker 2: yesterday when you said that you still think Boston is

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Speaker 2: easily the best team left in the Eastern Conference, I said,

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Speaker 2: I don't see why, because they they play with their

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Speaker 2: of their heyday Golden State Warriors did, where it's like,

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Speaker 2: that's how Golden State plays. If you go back to

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Speaker 2: last season, they blew leads in Game five of the

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Speaker 2: having to have those huge comebacks in six and seven

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Speaker 2: Yes, Because I mean, that's not excuse anymore, Like you're,

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Speaker 2: The reason why Boston made that run last season in

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Speaker 1: So in the regular season, when it's just you know,

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Speaker 1: And what you're seeing in the playoffs is a little more.

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Speaker 1: Devin Booker was mortal. He actually missed more than half

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Speaker 1: I still feel good about the Nuggets. Now the X

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Speaker 1: Given the way that Ad has been playing. But you know, Rob,

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Speaker 2: They've certainly appeared that way and shout out to you,

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Speaker 2: They have looked as advertised. They looked exactly like you

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Speaker 2: Been an absolute monster, and it's good to see that

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Speaker 1: Right now, I think Laker fans are going to be

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Speaker 1: launching threes with seven minutes left, Like, I mean, maybe

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Speaker 1: Monty will take some heat tomorrow. But they are going home.

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Speaker 1: If they were going on the road, maybe a different store.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll be okay at home. But you're right,

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Speaker 1: ultimately for Game seven, this is not Game seven would

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Speaker 1: be on Oh my gosh, not Saturday, is it? Oh Rob,

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Speaker 1: it is Saturday. Oh no, we have a family event.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say on Saturday, and it's fun. I'm excited

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Speaker 1: for it, but holy hell, am I if I have

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Speaker 1: to miss Game seven? That would not be good? All right, well, briefly,

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Speaker 1: we will go to the series that I have been

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Speaker 1: more wrong about than I think anything. This playoffs. The

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Speaker 1: Lakers trying to put away Golden State. Also Miami can

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Speaker 1: try to put away the Knicks. Now, I do think

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Speaker 1: Miami goes for the juggular and then do'll take their

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Speaker 1: foot off the gas. And I wouldn't be surprised that

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Speaker 1: the Knicks rolled over like dogs and just lost. Would

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Speaker 1: not shock me. They just look beat. Julius Randall says

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Speaker 1: some wacky shit in the locker room. It's like, come on, dude,

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Speaker 1: the Lakers putting away the worst. Now I was confident

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Speaker 1: the Warriors would win Game four, I'm ultra confident they

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Speaker 1: win Game five, which means maybe the Lakers win Game

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Speaker 1: five in Golden State. Now we're gonna have, you know,

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Speaker 1: the second this gets to double digits in the third

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Speaker 1: time to shut down Ad. Time, just to shut down Lebron.

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Speaker 1: And here's how I would do it. I would actually

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Speaker 1: rest Ad and Lebron more than I normally do in

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Speaker 1: the first half and just see if my guys can

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Speaker 1: keep it afloat. That way, it's easier to sit him

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter if you have to. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna try to play eighty twenty one of twenty four

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Speaker 1: minutes in the first half because I think the reality

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Speaker 1: is he's more likely to break down than like, have

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Speaker 1: a breakthrough and go for thirty and fifteen tomorrow tonight.

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Speaker 1: I just don't see either him or Lebron doing that.

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Speaker 1: And I will remind everybody, just in case you missed

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Speaker 1: it late on Monday, eighty four shots in the second half.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Barely got the ball Lebron. Yes, he attacked

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Speaker 1: Curry a couple of times, calling for the screens hunting him,

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Speaker 1: but even Lebron looked pretty mortal now. He had zero

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Speaker 1: free throw attempts heading into the fourth quarter. Lebron did

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Speaker 1: attempt five free throws in the fourth, so he saved

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Speaker 1: some juice for attacking. But you got to you gotta

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Speaker 1: think their reserves are not very deep. If I don't

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Speaker 1: think Vegas has set an over under a minutes, but

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Speaker 1: over under thirty five minutes for Lebron and ad each

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Speaker 1: in game five under, you would take under. So using

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Speaker 1: Warriors just kind of rolled back at home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think any Laker fan who's expecting the Lakers to,

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Speaker 2: you know, step on their throats and it'd be over,

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Speaker 2: or are being disingenuous like the Golden State Warriors. As

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Speaker 2: much as they have looked a little shaky at certain

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Speaker 2: times in this series, they are the defining champions. Steph

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Speaker 2: Curry is not going to go down meekly. You know,

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Speaker 2: if he has to take forty five shots to get

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Speaker 2: sixty points, they'll do it. Thompson is due for at

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Speaker 2: least one more big game in this series. You know, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have nine points again.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw it, but I spent

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Speaker 1: you know, probably twenty minutes on the Herd on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: trying to trade Klay Thompson to the Orlando Magic for

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Speaker 1: Jalen Suggs, Jonathan Isaac and spare parts.

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Speaker 2: Uh, that's not the worst trade ever heard.

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Speaker 1: No, I'll take it now. I know people listening are

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Speaker 1: going to scoff, but the reality is there's a bunch

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Speaker 1: of teams that are not in the playoffs and have

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Speaker 1: not been for a while. The Orlando Magic have two

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Speaker 1: playoff victories in the last I think eleven years. At

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Speaker 1: some point, you need a veteran, a grown up in

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Speaker 1: that locker room, somebody who's been in the battles and

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Speaker 1: been in the wars to be your leader. And Like,

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Speaker 1: if you're Orlando and you can get someone with that

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Speaker 1: championship DNA of Klay Thompson, I think you kind of

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Speaker 1: have to go for it now. Jalen Suggs was highly

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Speaker 1: touted coming out of Gonzaga. He has not really lived

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Speaker 1: up the expectations. He's been injured. I mean, you're buying

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Speaker 1: low if possible. Ultimately, I don't know if they would

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Speaker 1: they would give him up, but I think there are

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Speaker 1: some of these bad teams. Now, Clay's not gonna want

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Speaker 1: to go to a bad team, and maybe the Warriors

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Speaker 1: would say, we're not gonna send you to Orlando Bro.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they would try to place him somewhere on a

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Speaker 1: contender in the East. But again, like I think, if

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Speaker 1: you start looking like Jordan Poole, is gonna be tough

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Speaker 1: to move Rob. Like Draymond Green, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the market is for. Can you get much for him?

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Speaker 1: And for what he does for you, he can't really

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Speaker 1: do for anyone else, So I think there is a

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Speaker 1: lot of value in that. Like trading Clay Thompson, I

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Speaker 1: don't think Pool at thirty million a year is going

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Speaker 1: to be easy to take to unload. Now I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at player point totals for game five, Rob, take a

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Speaker 1: guess what money Walker's over under totalists?

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Speaker 2: Oh geez, Louise, uh seven and a half?

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Speaker 1: Good guess eight and a half. Okay, I wouldn't automatically

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Speaker 1: take the un but I would lean that way. But

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Speaker 1: if there is a blowout, he probably stays on right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they don't have that. That's the only reason I do

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Speaker 1: not see a listed one for Jordan Poole. This is

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Speaker 1: an interesting one. Clay Thompson, who shockingly is averaging nineteen

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Speaker 1: in the series. Klay Thompson over under twenty two and

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Speaker 1: a half.

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Speaker 2: I would take the over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, same, he could probably easily hit six threes. Wiggins

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Speaker 1: seventeen and a half. I oh, Lebron is twenty five

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Speaker 1: and a half. I would definitely go under. Now the

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Speaker 1: under is juiced minus one twenty eight. So you got

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Speaker 1: a bet one hundred twenty eight dollars to win one

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Speaker 1: hundred on Lebron going under twenty two and a half.

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Speaker 1: Eighty is under twenty four and a half. You might

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Speaker 1: as well smash that too. That's just Lebron and Ade

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Speaker 1: are not playing that many minutes now. The fear rob

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Speaker 1: is that we all are saying the same thing's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Anybody out there is saying the words are gonna win

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Speaker 1: in a blowout. The line's been going up. Maybe everybody's

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Oh I three pointers made. Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: not getting that granula with the bets. I wonder why

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Speaker 1: there's no Jordan Poole stuff posted.

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Speaker 2: Because he's gonna play.

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Speaker 1: Because he's gonna he's gonna play. You need him to

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Speaker 1: win this series. Listen, you're not winning three straight up

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Speaker 1: Jordan Poole's not doing something in one of them. He

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Speaker 1: has to Rub, you can't have Curry go off for

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Speaker 1: three games in a row. That's not possible. I want

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Speaker 1: to close with this Warriors Lakers real quick, Rub. I

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Speaker 1: had several people send it to me because I am

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Speaker 1: such a big Curry guy that in the final is

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Speaker 1: it seven? No? No, there was one within the final

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Speaker 1: seven minutes. Steph Curry's missed a billion shots, But the

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Speaker 1: other one was in the final thirty seconds in playoff games.

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry is er for twelve Did you did you

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Speaker 1: happen to see this?

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Speaker 2: I did?

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Speaker 1: Was that? Did I get it correct? By the way?

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Speaker 2: That is correct? I mean you forget who I work

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Speaker 2: with on the radio show. I work with one of

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Speaker 2: the biggest Steph Curry haters this side of the Mississippi.

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Speaker 1: Soh, let me guess. Rob Parker was just bashing.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it was catnip for him. As soon as we

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Speaker 2: saw that stack creep up on the on the Twitter.

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Speaker 2: He sent it to me in the group chats that

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Speaker 2: I'm using this, and of.

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Speaker 1: Course he did. You know what? That reminds me of

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Speaker 1: when last year Rob was trying to tell me when

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Speaker 1: I saw him once. He's never won a finals m

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Speaker 1: VP to get there. He went to the finals and

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Speaker 1: got the VP. What can you say now? And there's

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Speaker 1: like nothing to say now, but yeah, anyways, all right,

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Speaker 1: we need more basketball, so we need Curry to win tonight.

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Speaker 1: I'm rooting Nicks. I'm not optimistic Rob. All Right, folks,

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Speaker 1: we are kicking off a big, brand new, cool thing

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Speaker 1: tomorrow that I think you're gonna love. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to tease it. Only the T one listeners who are

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Speaker 1: listening deep deep into their podcast. They're gonna hear about

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Speaker 1: it first, because I'm telling you right now, there will

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Speaker 1: be a big, cool, fun, exciting change to the podcast tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: It's fun, it's exciting. I'm we were gonna unleash you tonight.

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Speaker 1: But let's just say your boy had some technical issues

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Speaker 1: and I'll leave it at that. We will debut that

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Speaker 1: almost certainly tomorrow the technical issues will not exist. I'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you then