WEBVTT - The Incredible Escape: Edouard Izac’s 120-Mile Trek 

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now to the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>The passenger train chugged into Germany's Black Forest. It was

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<v Speaker 2>July sixth, nineteen eighteen. The fourth class carriage was packed

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<v Speaker 2>with German soldiers. They were back from the front lines

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<v Speaker 2>of World War One, dressed in their uniforms, smoking and talking,

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<v Speaker 2>happy to be out of the trenches. An American prisoner

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<v Speaker 2>sat on a simple wooden bench. One German guard was

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<v Speaker 2>on his left, another faced him, but both had their

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<v Speaker 2>guns trained on him. The prisoner looked out the window,

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<v Speaker 2>and he watched as the light shifted through the trees.

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<v Speaker 1>For hours, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Train went slowly, pushing its way uphill deeper into the forest.

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<v Speaker 2>The prisoner ran his hands through his dark brown hair.

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<v Speaker 2>He hadn't had much to eat for weeks. He was

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<v Speaker 2>dressed in rags, but he was hyper focused. He was

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<v Speaker 2>determined to find the right moment to escape, to jump

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<v Speaker 2>off of this train. It was a totally insane idea,

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<v Speaker 2>but that wasn't going to stop him. Then he felt

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<v Speaker 2>the train going faster. They were heading down hill, which

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<v Speaker 2>meant they were almost at their desk the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>His heart was pounding.

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<v Speaker 2>The window next to him was shut tight, but the

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<v Speaker 2>one across the aisle was wide open. He saw farms

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<v Speaker 2>flash by people working in the fields. The train was

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<v Speaker 2>going around forty miles an hour, maybe more. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the prisoner noticed that the guard across from him was

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<v Speaker 2>falling asleep. He watched as his eyes closed as his

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<v Speaker 2>head dropped right then the guard beside him turned to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to another soldier.

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<v Speaker 1>The prisoner realized it was now or never.

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<v Speaker 2>He stood up and he ran across the aisle and

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<v Speaker 2>went headfirst through the open window.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm JR.

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<v Speaker 2>Martinez and this is Medal of Honor Stories of Courage.

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<v Speaker 2>The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. It's awarded for gallantry and bravery and

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<v Speaker 2>combat at the risk of life, above and beyond the

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<v Speaker 2>call of duty. Each candidate must be approved all the

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<v Speaker 2>way up the chain of command, from the supervisory officer

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<v Speaker 2>in the field to the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>This show is about those heroes.

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<v Speaker 2>What they did, what it meant, and what their stories

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<v Speaker 2>tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. In

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<v Speaker 2>this episode, we're going to meet Edward Isaac. He was

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<v Speaker 2>a naval officer who was captured by the Germans in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighteen. And from the moment he was captured, he

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to escape. He plotted, he planned, He hid

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<v Speaker 2>maps and money and yeat. He jumped out of a

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<v Speaker 2>moving train. He tried to escape not once, not twice,

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<v Speaker 2>but seven times, and each attempt was dangerous and honestly

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<v Speaker 2>borderline crazy. The man just refused to give up. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not what makes Edward's story so different from the ones

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<v Speaker 2>I've told you before. His story is unique because he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't risk his life to say one man, or even

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<v Speaker 2>a group of them. He ran and ran and ran

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<v Speaker 2>because he wanted to stop the whole damn war. Explosions

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<v Speaker 2>were rocking the USS President Lincoln. Torpedoes skimmed across the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>One hit then two, then three men were shouting, racing

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<v Speaker 2>to their post, and cascades of water and debris were

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<v Speaker 2>raining down on the decks. It was May thirty first,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighteen, and the Lincoln was on its way back

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<v Speaker 2>to the United States. It was a naval transport ship

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<v Speaker 2>and it had just taken thousands of American troops to France.

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<v Speaker 2>This was way before the time when troops could be

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<v Speaker 2>flown overseas. They had to go by boat.

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<v Speaker 3>Theirs is the gigantic task of delivering men, munitions, and

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<v Speaker 3>food to Europe, battle the deadly submarines and blockade Germany.

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<v Speaker 2>The Atlantic Ocean was full of German submarines. They'd been

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<v Speaker 2>hunting Allied ships for months. The US Navy was desperately

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<v Speaker 2>trying to stop them. Those subs were sinking thousands of ships,

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<v Speaker 2>not just warships but commercial boats too, causing more than

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<v Speaker 2>ten thousand deaths. And so here was the US S

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<v Speaker 2>Lincoln in the crosshairs of a German submarine, the U ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>It was nine am when the torpedoes hit, and Edward

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<v Speaker 2>Isaac was eating his breakfast. He was twenty six lieutenant.

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<v Speaker 2>He had thick, dark hair and a dimple in his chin.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a wife and a baby girl who were

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for him back home. He had grown up in

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<v Speaker 2>a hard working family on the Iowa Frontier. His dad

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<v Speaker 2>was a French immigrant who built wagons for a living.

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<v Speaker 2>Edward was the youngest of nine kids, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>always kind of stubborn, obsessed with doing.

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<v Speaker 1>The right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>His willpower was well, you'll find out soon the torpedoes

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<v Speaker 2>ripped through the Lincoln. Edward put down his breakfast and

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<v Speaker 2>raced through the wreckage.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon the captain.

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<v Speaker 2>Ordered abandoned ship men ran to the lifeboats, loading up

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<v Speaker 2>and pushing off as far from the sinking ship as

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<v Speaker 2>they could. Then they tied their boats together so that

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<v Speaker 2>nobody would drift off and be lost. And at nine

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<v Speaker 2>point thirty the USS President Lincoln put her nose in

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<v Speaker 2>the air and sank to the bottom of the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost everyone had made it off alive. A feeling of

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<v Speaker 2>relief swept over the lifeboats. They sent up distressed flares

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<v Speaker 2>and waited to be rescued and checked this out. As

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<v Speaker 2>the flares went up, they sang this song. He hal

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<v Speaker 2>his hail, Hell were full of cheer. Their ship just

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<v Speaker 2>went down. Suddenly, the U ninety surfaced again. The Americans

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<v Speaker 2>weren't sure what the Germans wanted, but they knew it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't good. Edward was in his officer's uniform and was

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<v Speaker 2>noticed by the subs captain Walter Remy.

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<v Speaker 4>When the submarine came to the surface. After the ship

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<v Speaker 4>went down, Raymie spotted me and put a megaphone to

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<v Speaker 4>his mouth and said, come alongside.

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<v Speaker 2>Edward was in a you in nineteen eighty one, when

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<v Speaker 2>he was ninety. He still remembered that moment like it

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<v Speaker 2>was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Two sailors from the submarine reached down and pulled me up.

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<v Speaker 4>So I went up to the skipper, who was in

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<v Speaker 4>the Connie tower. He said, are you the captain of

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<v Speaker 4>the President Lincoln. I said no, I'm only the first lieutenant. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>he said, you point out the captain. I have orders

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<v Speaker 4>whenever I sink a man of war to take the

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<v Speaker 4>captain prisoner.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Edward wasn't about to let his captain be captured,

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<v Speaker 2>so he lied to Remy.

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<v Speaker 4>I turned to him and I said, I think he

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<v Speaker 4>went down with a ship. Oh, he said, he had

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<v Speaker 4>plenty of time to get out.

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<v Speaker 2>Remy had to have a prisoner, so he kept Edward.

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<v Speaker 2>He offered him a glass of sherry and gave him

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<v Speaker 2>some nice dry clothes. It was a preview of what

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<v Speaker 2>life would be like on board the unit. It was

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<v Speaker 2>all weirdly civilized. Edward dined with the officers. They played bridge.

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<v Speaker 2>The Germans spoke English. It was taught at their naval academy.

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<v Speaker 1>And get this.

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<v Speaker 2>One day they stopped at a remote Scottish island that

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<v Speaker 2>had tons of wild sheep. The Germans went hunting for food,

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<v Speaker 2>and they even brought Edward back a little lamb to

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<v Speaker 2>keep as a ped As he later said, quote we

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<v Speaker 2>named it Rona, and we were the best of friends.

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<v Speaker 2>But Edward wasn't just playing cards and hanging out with Rona.

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<v Speaker 2>He was furious about being captured and not being able

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<v Speaker 2>to help with the war, so he decided to make

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<v Speaker 2>up for it. He was going to spend his captivity

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<v Speaker 2>studying the U boat. After all, this was the weapon

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<v Speaker 2>that was winning the war for Germany. Now he had

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<v Speaker 2>a front row seat to how this killing machine actually worked.

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<v Speaker 2>He would learn what he could, and then he would escape.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't matter how it was going to be. He

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<v Speaker 2>would risk everything to bring his intelligence to the Allies

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<v Speaker 2>and help finally destroy the enemy fleet. On June ninth,

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<v Speaker 2>the U ninety surfaced a cruise slowly through a channel.

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<v Speaker 2>Sweden was on one side, Denmark was on the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Two more German submarines appeared, then a destroyer. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a secret rendezvous point. Now Edward had even better intel

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<v Speaker 2>and he could see land. It was just a few

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<v Speaker 2>miles away, so he decided to jump right there and

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<v Speaker 2>swim for freedom. He moved towards the guard rail, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to seem casual, and then someone shouted behind him. It

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<v Speaker 2>was Captain Remy. He ordered Edward below deck. Escape Attempt

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<v Speaker 2>number one was over, But the two men were gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 2>so they never spoke of it again.

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<v Speaker 4>Not a bad guy, as a matter fact, he treated

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<v Speaker 4>me very well. That took us twelve days on that submarine.

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<v Speaker 4>Eventually we got to the base of the High Seas

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<v Speaker 4>Fleet and we went down the Kiel Canal. From that

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<v Speaker 4>time on the course, I was at the mercy of

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<v Speaker 4>these prisons.

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<v Speaker 2>And Captain Remy must have known how bad things were

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get. He secretly brought Edward some German money, a

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<v Speaker 2>toothbrush and soap. After Remy left, Edward was moved to

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<v Speaker 2>a place nicknamed the Listening Hotel. The Germans would put

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<v Speaker 2>prisoners who spoke the same language together, hoping they would

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<v Speaker 2>share secrets with each other because each room had hidden

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<v Speaker 2>listening devices. But previous prisoners had scratched beware the dictaphones

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<v Speaker 2>on various surfaces, so instead the men just loudly insulted

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<v Speaker 2>the Germans. Next, Edward was sent to a prison camp.

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<v Speaker 2>It was grim, food was scarce.

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<v Speaker 4>After about a week starvation diet as usual, they transferred

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<v Speaker 4>me down to carlsdru It's a distribution camp for Allied prisoners.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where the hunger really began. All they got was

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<v Speaker 2>thin broth and black bread, and it wasn't even bread

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<v Speaker 2>at all. It was a mix of water, potatoes, sawdust,

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<v Speaker 2>and sand. Edward was already determined to escape. He was

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<v Speaker 2>dying to share his intel. Being hungry just made him

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<v Speaker 2>want to leave sooner. Edward got along with the other

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<v Speaker 2>Allied prisoners, particularly the ones from France. After all, he'd

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<v Speaker 2>grown up speaking French at home, and those guys had

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<v Speaker 2>learned a thing or two about German prisons.

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<v Speaker 4>They had been at war two or three years before

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<v Speaker 4>we got into it. He had quite a school there

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<v Speaker 4>learning how to get loose finally.

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<v Speaker 2>First, he and a few other men bribed a guard

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<v Speaker 2>to help them get out, but the guard was caught.

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<v Speaker 2>Escape plan number two failed. Then came attempt number three.

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<v Speaker 2>Edward climbed a tree next to the fence in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the night, planning to drop to the other

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<v Speaker 2>side when the guards wandered away, but somehow the guards

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<v Speaker 2>never moved. He didn't have a chance to try that again.

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<v Speaker 4>Early one morning, after several attempts to escape, they came

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<v Speaker 4>for me, and I had just time enough to grab

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<v Speaker 4>a little knapsack that I had made out of an

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<v Speaker 4>old shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't know where they were taking him, but wherever

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<v Speaker 2>he was going, yeah, that's right, he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>try to escape. So with the knapsack there was money

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<v Speaker 2>hidden in a can of shaving cream, a tiny compass,

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<v Speaker 2>and a jar of lard, and a map and a

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<v Speaker 2>tin of cocoa powder. The guards poked into the jar

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<v Speaker 2>of lard and into the coco but they didn't find

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<v Speaker 2>a single thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Then they put a chargean and a corporal as my guards.

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<v Speaker 5>With loaded rifles to escort me to the train.

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<v Speaker 4>I finally got from them that we were going to

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<v Speaker 4>the Russian and the American prison camp for officers in

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<v Speaker 4>the Black Forest.

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<v Speaker 2>They found spots in that crowded train car. Other men

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<v Speaker 2>would have settled in for that ride, but not Edward.

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<v Speaker 2>He was getting ready for escape number four. He eyed

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<v Speaker 2>the open window across the aisle. It was tiny, only

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen by twenty four inches, and he kept on waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for the right chance to jump. Even when the train

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<v Speaker 2>started going. He watched his guards until he saw his opening.

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<v Speaker 4>One was sort of dozing, the other was looking up

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<v Speaker 4>and talking with a soldier. And I jumped past the guards,

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<v Speaker 4>off the train, through my head and shoulders through.

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<v Speaker 5>I expected to.

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<v Speaker 4>Land on that running board, you know, alongside those fourth

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<v Speaker 4>class carriages. This didn't have.

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<v Speaker 2>Any Edward had no foothold, so he fell straight onto

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<v Speaker 2>the track that ran parallel to the train.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, I kept rolling over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>His face hid one still tie, and his knees hit another.

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<v Speaker 2>He blacked out, and when he woke up a few

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<v Speaker 2>seconds later, he could hear the train screeching to a stop.

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<v Speaker 4>By that time, the guards had pulled a string and

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<v Speaker 4>the train stopped about three hundred yards farther down. These

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<v Speaker 4>guards came out were shooting at me. When I realized

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<v Speaker 4>that I couldn't run.

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<v Speaker 2>He couldn't bend his knees, so we started hobbling away

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<v Speaker 2>as fast as he could. The guards were firing warning

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<v Speaker 2>shots around his head, screaming at him to halt. Finally

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<v Speaker 2>he stopped and put his hands in the air. Their

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<v Speaker 2>response was to hit him with the rifle. He fell

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<v Speaker 2>to the ground. They kicked him. He struggled to get

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<v Speaker 2>to his feet, and they knocked him down again. Later

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<v Speaker 2>one of those guards would actually be court martialed, not

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<v Speaker 2>for beating an arm prisoner before destroying German Army property.

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<v Speaker 2>He had Edward so hard that he broke his gun.

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<v Speaker 2>But even after the gun broke, they kept going.

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<v Speaker 4>They jerked me to my feet and didn't risk the

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<v Speaker 4>other gun. They crowded me with a bayonet. We were

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<v Speaker 4>five miles from the prison camp at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>They made him hobble all the way to the prison.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time he arrived, he was near death. The

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<v Speaker 2>camp doctor tended to his injuries. He had more than

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<v Speaker 2>a hundred separate wounds.

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<v Speaker 4>They put me in solitary confinement in a cell, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was there or oh, I suppose three months.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be weeks before Edward could walk again, months

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<v Speaker 2>before he could bend his knees, but the pain just

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<v Speaker 2>made him more determined. He had to escape and share

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<v Speaker 2>the intel he thought could end the war. The prison

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<v Speaker 2>camp of Villaingen was deep in the black forest, but

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<v Speaker 2>there was one good thing about it. It was close

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<v Speaker 2>to Switzerland, which was neutral territory. Edward Isaac knew that

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<v Speaker 2>if he could make it to the border, he would

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<v Speaker 2>be as soon as he got out of solitary, he

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<v Speaker 2>started sizing up the camp. To anyone else, the situation

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<v Speaker 2>would have seemed impossible. The whole place was surrounded by

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<v Speaker 2>multiple bar wire fences, plus guards with rifles, and the

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<v Speaker 2>man could barely walk. But the prisoners got German news

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<v Speaker 2>in the camp, and every day he heard that Allied

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<v Speaker 2>ships were being blown up. Sure, some of this was

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<v Speaker 2>wartime propaganda, but even if half of it was true,

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<v Speaker 2>the situation was dire. Edward was certain his intel would

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<v Speaker 2>save lives, maybe even stop the war, so he started

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<v Speaker 2>getting up early, doing calisthenics and taking a cold shower.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty soon he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Walking fifteen miles a day around the prison barracks. I

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<v Speaker 2>told you he was stubborn, didn't I? Then he worked

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<v Speaker 2>up a plan. He decided that multiple prisoners would have

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<v Speaker 2>to escape at the same time would mean more chaos,

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<v Speaker 2>so we recruited other prisoners, which wasn't hard since everyone

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to get the heck out of there, even though

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<v Speaker 2>they all knew that failure could mean death. For escape

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<v Speaker 2>plan number wait where are we oh right? Five, Edward

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<v Speaker 2>planned for the men to go over the roof of

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<v Speaker 2>a workshed. It was next to a segment of fence

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<v Speaker 2>that didn't have much barbed wire, but then overnight the

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<v Speaker 2>Germans added more wire there, so it was on to

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<v Speaker 2>the next idea. For escape plan number six, they would

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<v Speaker 2>sneak out a garden door. It wasn't guarded all that well.

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<v Speaker 2>A guy named Harold Willis, another American prisoner and Edward's friend,

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to make a key for the door, But

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<v Speaker 2>then a Russian prisoner tried to escape at the same

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<v Speaker 2>exact spot and he was caught, so.

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<v Speaker 1>The guards were doubled.

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<v Speaker 2>Edward was almost out of ideas, as he later wrote, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>my fortunes reached their lowest EBB, but they were destined

0:20:16.901 --> 0:20:21.261
<v Speaker 2>to brighten with the never dying hope of success. Never

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<v Speaker 2>dying hope of success. Now that, my friends, is optimism,

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<v Speaker 2>which brings us to escape. Plan number seven. Edward would

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<v Speaker 2>secretly build the ladder to take them over the fences.

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<v Speaker 4>There were two long pieces of pine that the Russians

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<v Speaker 4>used to lay out sort of a volleyball set.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you heard that right. The prisoners were allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>play games in prison, and it sounds like the Russians

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<v Speaker 2>really liked volleyball.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>The border of the court was made of long pieces

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<v Speaker 2>of wood, and Edward stole them.

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<v Speaker 4>I got those two flats into my barracks, where there

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<v Speaker 4>were eight cots with eight prisoners. I seek created these

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<v Speaker 4>two under those cots.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he needed to make rungs for the ladder. He

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<v Speaker 2>stole the tops of the wooden boxes their food came in.

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<v Speaker 2>He had all the pieces. Now he just had to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out how to put the ladder together.

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<v Speaker 4>There were no nails, but I took the screws out

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<v Speaker 4>of all the doors in all the barracks, enough to

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<v Speaker 4>keep the door swinging. But I got enough so that

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<v Speaker 4>I could have a regular ladder leading right straight out.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, who thinks of this. The last part of

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<v Speaker 2>the plan was cutting the lights to the camp so

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<v Speaker 2>the prisoners could get out in the darkness. The power

0:21:59.781 --> 0:22:03.580
<v Speaker 2>came in from the neighboring town, but unlike modern power lines,

0:22:03.901 --> 0:22:08.621
<v Speaker 2>these were made from raw, uncoated wire. Edward figured out

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<v Speaker 2>that if you threw a metal chain of them, the

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<v Speaker 2>wires would short circuit and the lights would go out.

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<v Speaker 2>So he recruited some friends to throw the chain at

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<v Speaker 2>the appointed hour, and then they waited for their moment.

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<v Speaker 2>It came October sixth, nineteen eighteen. The camp announced that

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<v Speaker 2>all the Russian prisoners would be moved. It meant two things,

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<v Speaker 2>first that all the barracks would be searched, and second,

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<v Speaker 2>there would be way more guards per prisoner. They had

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<v Speaker 2>to get out now. As night fell on October sixth,

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<v Speaker 2>Edward gave the sign. His friends threw a chain over

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<v Speaker 2>the wire to short circuit the lights.

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<v Speaker 1>Edward held his breath. It worked.

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<v Speaker 4>The lights went out, and then they came on. Immediately

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<v Speaker 4>Well I realized what was happening. The thing was swinging

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<v Speaker 4>back and forth and releasing Finally it blew the fuse

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<v Speaker 4>and the lights went out.

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<v Speaker 2>Next, some Russian prisoners had volunteered to create a distraction,

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<v Speaker 2>so as soon as the lights went out, they started

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<v Speaker 2>a racket on the far side of the camp, and

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<v Speaker 2>then thirteen Americans headed out into the darkness. But as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as the guards figured out what was happening, it

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<v Speaker 2>was mayhem.

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<v Speaker 1>Shots everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Edward was the second man off the ladder, and as

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<v Speaker 2>he swung to the ground, the guards yelled halt and

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<v Speaker 2>trained their rifles on him. The shots were so close

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<v Speaker 2>that Edward's hair got burned by the muzzle flash. He

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<v Speaker 2>ran as fast as he could, bent over and zig

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<v Speaker 2>zagging through the night.

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<v Speaker 5>That's how we got out of the camp.

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<v Speaker 2>He had arranged to meet Harold Willis, that guy who

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<v Speaker 2>made the key for escape Planned number six, but his

0:24:09.301 --> 0:24:13.221
<v Speaker 2>friend was late. Edward could hear the hounds in the distance.

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<v Speaker 2>Then Willis came crashing through the trees. They ran together

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<v Speaker 2>through the darkness. Willis had stolen pepper from the mill tent,

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<v Speaker 2>and he sprinkled it behind them to keep the hounds

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<v Speaker 2>off of their scent. They sloshed through swamps with water

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<v Speaker 2>up to their shoulders, and finally, as the sun was rising,

0:24:33.541 --> 0:24:37.421
<v Speaker 2>they hid themselves under a cliff. The hounds were still

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<v Speaker 2>behind them. They could hear their barking, first so close,

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<v Speaker 2>and then further and further away. The Swiss border was

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<v Speaker 2>only eighteen miles from the camp, but any of the

0:24:53.221 --> 0:24:57.821
<v Speaker 2>direct routes were blocked by German soldiers. Instead, their trip

0:24:57.821 --> 0:25:03.181
<v Speaker 2>would cover one hundred and twenty miles. They stole vegetables

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<v Speaker 2>from gardens. In the dark, they slept huddled under Willis's coat. Finally,

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<v Speaker 2>six days later they reached the a Rhine River. Switzerland

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<v Speaker 2>was just on the other side, but there were searchlights

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<v Speaker 2>sweeping the river banks, so they painted themselves with mud,

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<v Speaker 2>hoping to blend in with the rocks. They slowly moved

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<v Speaker 2>into the water. The current was stronger than they expected.

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<v Speaker 2>One minute, Willis was right in front of Edward. The

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<v Speaker 2>next minute he was gone. As Edward said later quote,

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<v Speaker 2>it was as if the earth had opened up and

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<v Speaker 2>swallowed him. But he didn't have time to wonder what

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<v Speaker 2>had happened, because the moment he inched forward, he was

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<v Speaker 2>swept away by the current too. He was weak and freezing.

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<v Speaker 2>There was just seven hundred feet of water separating him

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<v Speaker 2>from freedom, so he swam as hard as he could,

0:26:02.541 --> 0:26:04.501
<v Speaker 2>but the current was dragging him into a bend in

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<v Speaker 2>the river. He knew it was about to push him

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<v Speaker 2>back to the German side. He was exhausted, he had

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<v Speaker 2>no fight left, so he turned over on his back, closed.

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<v Speaker 1>His eyes and prayed.

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<v Speaker 2>Edward Isaac was on his back, floating in the icy

0:26:39.541 --> 0:26:43.381
<v Speaker 2>Rhine River. He'd been running for six days to escape

0:26:43.421 --> 0:26:47.021
<v Speaker 2>the Germans. He was freezing, hungry, and tired.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just done.

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<v Speaker 2>And at that exact moment that Edward Isaac gave up

0:26:55.261 --> 0:27:01.541
<v Speaker 2>his feet touched the rocks. He was in Switzerland. He

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<v Speaker 2>had been a prisoner for one hundred and thirty six days,

0:27:05.221 --> 0:27:13.941
<v Speaker 2>and now he was free. Attempt number seven was a success. Unbelievably,

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<v Speaker 2>Willis had made it too. Of the thirteen men who

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<v Speaker 2>tried to escape that night, only three actually did. Edward

0:27:23.461 --> 0:27:27.461
<v Speaker 2>didn't spend any time pondering how crazy his escape had been.

0:27:28.181 --> 0:27:30.501
<v Speaker 2>He just got to the Naval command center in London

0:27:30.741 --> 0:27:34.101
<v Speaker 2>as fast as he could. He told him about all

0:27:34.141 --> 0:27:36.781
<v Speaker 2>the inner workings of the German U boats, about that

0:27:36.861 --> 0:27:40.341
<v Speaker 2>rendezvous point for the naval fleet, but his intel didn't

0:27:40.381 --> 0:27:45.021
<v Speaker 2>quite make the impact he hoped for. Why because peace

0:27:45.101 --> 0:27:50.261
<v Speaker 2>talks were already underway by the time Edward got to

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<v Speaker 2>Washington on November eleventh, the war was over. He watched

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<v Speaker 2>the celebrations with his new friend the Assistant Secretary of

0:27:58.181 --> 0:28:01.701
<v Speaker 2>the Navy. The two had met while Edward was being debriefed.

0:28:02.741 --> 0:28:07.981
<v Speaker 2>That friend's name was Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and two years later,

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<v Speaker 2>when Edward received his Medal of Honor, it was Fdr

0:28:12.421 --> 0:28:17.461
<v Speaker 2>who presented it to him. Admiral William Simms, who commanded

0:28:17.461 --> 0:28:20.741
<v Speaker 2>the Navy in Europe, didn't believe that Edward deserved the metal.

0:28:21.661 --> 0:28:24.461
<v Speaker 2>He told reporters that quote, all he did was get

0:28:24.501 --> 0:28:28.821
<v Speaker 2>captured by the enemy. But Josepha's Daniels, the Secretary of

0:28:28.861 --> 0:28:32.741
<v Speaker 2>the Navy, deeply disagreed, and, as he put it, quote

0:28:33.061 --> 0:28:37.381
<v Speaker 2>his rare experiences, his alertness to secure information that would

0:28:37.381 --> 0:28:40.941
<v Speaker 2>aid his country, his resolve to find or make a

0:28:41.021 --> 0:28:44.941
<v Speaker 2>way to escape, these make a story that would live

0:28:44.981 --> 0:28:50.061
<v Speaker 2>in the animals of navel daring. Daniels asked Edward to

0:28:50.101 --> 0:28:53.941
<v Speaker 2>write a book about his experiences, which he did, but

0:28:54.141 --> 0:28:58.381
<v Speaker 2>Edward didn't see his story as heroic. In fact, his

0:28:58.501 --> 0:29:02.701
<v Speaker 2>memoir ended on a wistful note. The very last line

0:29:02.741 --> 0:29:10.701
<v Speaker 2>was I was too late. In nineteen thirty six, Edward

0:29:10.741 --> 0:29:13.781
<v Speaker 2>was called back into the service of his country. He

0:29:13.821 --> 0:29:16.501
<v Speaker 2>had retired from the Navy right after the war. His

0:29:16.541 --> 0:29:20.621
<v Speaker 2>injuries had never quite healed, but now his old friend

0:29:20.741 --> 0:29:24.301
<v Speaker 2>FDR was president, so he agreed to run for Congress

0:29:24.341 --> 0:29:25.141
<v Speaker 2>in California.

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<v Speaker 1>He won.

0:29:28.061 --> 0:29:31.221
<v Speaker 2>As a congressman, he fought for veterans' rights, He fought

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<v Speaker 2>to establish a battalion of black soldiers in the California

0:29:34.101 --> 0:29:37.181
<v Speaker 2>National Guard, and he worked to create the naval base

0:29:37.221 --> 0:29:40.621
<v Speaker 2>of San Diego, which changed that city and is still

0:29:40.661 --> 0:29:44.501
<v Speaker 2>in use today. He and his wife, Agnes, had six kids.

0:29:45.981 --> 0:29:48.421
<v Speaker 2>World War One was supposed to be the war to

0:29:48.541 --> 0:29:52.421
<v Speaker 2>end all wars, but in nineteen forty one, Edward watched

0:29:52.501 --> 0:29:57.261
<v Speaker 2>horrified as his country declared war on Germany again. Two

0:29:57.261 --> 0:30:00.101
<v Speaker 2>of his sons joined the Navy and were sent overseas

0:30:00.101 --> 0:30:04.541
<v Speaker 2>to fight, and then in April of nineteen forty five,

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<v Speaker 2>Edward was in Germany too, standing in the middle of.

0:30:08.381 --> 0:30:09.501
<v Speaker 1>A prison yard.

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<v Speaker 2>His posture was as straight as ever, but his hair

0:30:13.221 --> 0:30:17.741
<v Speaker 2>was snow white. He looked around him. There were signs

0:30:17.741 --> 0:30:22.541
<v Speaker 2>of death everywhere. He was at a concentration camp. Edward

0:30:22.541 --> 0:30:25.341
<v Speaker 2>and a delegation of other congressmen were there to bear

0:30:25.421 --> 0:30:27.421
<v Speaker 2>witness to the horrors of the Holocaust.

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<v Speaker 6>They came as the elected representatives of the American people,

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<v Speaker 6>to see for themselves to see for America the incontrovertible

0:30:36.781 --> 0:30:41.141
<v Speaker 6>evidence of Nazi in humanity. They and the people of

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<v Speaker 6>now freed Europe will not forget.

0:30:45.781 --> 0:30:48.861
<v Speaker 2>What Edward saw in the concentration camps at the end

0:30:48.861 --> 0:30:50.941
<v Speaker 2>of the war broke his heart.

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<v Speaker 4>I have never forgotten my first impression of Dachau. Here

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<v Speaker 4>was a shed next to the crematorium, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>an open shed fifty sixty feet long, in which human

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<v Speaker 4>carpses were stacked exactly like cardwould.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say there were thousands.

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<v Speaker 4>I will never know because they were so emaciated that

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't take up much space. There was not a

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<v Speaker 4>pound of flesh on any of them. They had been

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<v Speaker 4>starved to death.

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<v Speaker 2>In their later years, Edward and Agnes lived on a

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<v Speaker 2>little farm in Virginia. He rarely talked about World War One.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, he wrote a family history in nineteen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 2>It stretched all the way back to the eighteenth century,

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<v Speaker 2>but in it he only mentioned that he joined the Navy.

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<v Speaker 2>There is absolutely nothing about his great escape or his

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<v Speaker 2>Medal of Honor. It's hard to know why. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>felt like his actions didn't matter. He hadn't been able

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<v Speaker 2>to stop his war or any of the wars he

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<v Speaker 2>saw during his lifetime. Maybe that made him feel like

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't a hero. A lot of veterans feel that way.

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<v Speaker 2>They ask what did I really do? But I think

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<v Speaker 2>heroism isn't always about what you do. Sometimes it's about

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<v Speaker 2>what you tried to do. Edward Isaac died in January

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<v Speaker 2>of nineteen ninety. He was ninety eight years old. I

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<v Speaker 2>think his story is about optimism more than anything. Even

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<v Speaker 2>after the first escape attempt failed, he kept trying. He

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<v Speaker 2>kept trying after the third attempt and the sixth. He

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<v Speaker 2>saw the best of us and the worst.

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<v Speaker 7>And yet he still had hope.

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<v Speaker 1>Medal of Honor.

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<v Speaker 2>Stories of Courage is written by Meredith Rollins and produced

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