1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus podcast podcast. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 2: Pot All right, here. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: We go fifteen Conny twenty five, thirty thirty. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: Five, forty forty five, fifty. 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: And the kicks block College Football World Stunde. 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, he's stumbled the football. 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: The lateral turn, the corner of the ind jide. 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: Can't you believe? Came them off the fail to night. 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: It's not the sages of the dog in the fight. 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: It's the side of the fight in the roll. Welcome 11 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: to the Big Bets on Campus, the new BCS version. 12 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 2: This is Colin Wilson. Why the New BCS because it's 13 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: Brett calling and Stucky. First reported by our own McMurphy. 14 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: Brett McMurphy is sources. 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: Hey Lane, Colin Wilson with the Action Network. Before last season, 16 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: the record for fourth down Thames was forty six. 17 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, I did not know we set a record. Yeah, 18 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: I've got fan pilp. Thank you so much. Exciting finish, Sorry, Stucky. 19 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: We are here in an unstructured format. We're gonna record 20 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: on Monday nights. We've been doing this for weeks. We 21 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: are gonna talk to you guys about everything outside of 22 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: the box. A little loose conversation on what's going on 23 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: in college football right now? Brett, we have Brett traveling 24 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 2: on the road. I laugh because he actually left and 25 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: now he is coming back. But no, we wanna we 26 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: We're gonna leave you guys with one big takeaway, a 27 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: wager at the end of the show. We're actually six 28 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: and one so far. I'm gonna get stumped again. I 29 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: don't know what the question is Brett's gonna ask. But 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: before we get to all of that, gentlemen, how was 31 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: your weekend on the show? I went four and two 32 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: on the show. I had a winning but win won 33 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: both best bets. Thank you Baylor for not scoring at 34 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: the end, screwing up that team total. Over how'd you 35 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: guys do on the show? Stucky, I'll start with you. 36 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: I think on the show at three to three, But 37 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: overall was my best, one of the best, best comfortable 38 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: weekend's betting of my life. So I'm petrified for this weekend. 39 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: It was a big Friday, huge Saturday. Shout to n 40 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: C State and the rest. Shout to the ACC officials 41 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: who have been really bad this year for keeping that 42 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: drive alive at the end, threatensy State to go over 43 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: the team total. So it's a really good weekend. But Garris, 44 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: we're on to one to the next. No reason to 45 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: dwell my end. Right, I'll go you, but before you 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: tell us how you did and how your weekend, we'll 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: set everything good on your end from your house and 48 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: everything down in post hurricane. 49 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks Stuck for asking. Yeah, we got really lucky. 50 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: The storm like took a took a hard ride about 51 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: one hundred miles south of Tampa, and that was fortunate 52 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: for us, but sucked for folks down in the Fort 53 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: Myers area. But yeah, we got really lucky. A little 54 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: bit of rain, some some wins, but minimal damage compared 55 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: with you know a lot of other folks south of us. 56 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: So appreciate you checking on me over the week. But yeah, 57 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: hopefully those guys and Fort Myers and everywhere else will 58 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 3: be okay. 59 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was you know, it's everybody that's been displaced, 60 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: you know, or we uh, definitely hope everything is good. 61 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: But we have a game this week SMU against UCF 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: on Wednesday night. Rhet Lashley taking on Gus Mauson as 63 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: a guy that's from northwest Arkansas. This is like some 64 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: Fort Smith, north side Shiloh Christian Springdale High School type 65 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: stuff going on here. These guys have known each other 66 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: before Rhet Lashley was shaving, so uh, you know, what's 67 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: it gonna be like? Bred Do you think a Wednesday 68 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: night game going on down there in the state of Florida? 69 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: Is anybody gonna show up after the like you know 70 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: everything that's been going on in that state with the hurricane. 71 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: You say, htt lastly shaving? Should we bet you cf? 72 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: Oh? Maybe we'll see. 73 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you may want to clarify that call it. No, dude, 74 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: this will be past. This will be packed. It's the 75 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: storm's clear, it's everybody, it's business is normal. This will 76 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: be a Wednesday night game that you see at the 77 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: Bounce House. I don't think they've ever played a Wednesday 78 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: night game, although I don't know if you guys are 79 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: old enough remember this. They actually were in the mac 80 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 3: which is so crazy. So they may have some maction 81 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: games on Wednesday, But no, this this place will be packed, 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: it'll be hopping, it'll be sold out, nationally televised. 83 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: You know. 84 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: I think I think it'll be an entertaining game, to 85 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: say the least. I think there's gonna be a lot 86 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 3: of points. I don't have the total in front of me, 87 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 3: but I would certainly think to lean over it after 88 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: seeing PCU and SMU and what what you see, how 89 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: quickly you see it runs of their offense. 90 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: So stuck, I may I made the game a pick. 91 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: It was three and a halves are gone. It's down 92 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: to a three you know over unders at sixty four 93 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: and a half that hasn't had any movement. I don't know. 94 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: The market says, you know the under is going to 95 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: come in here. I have a hard time believing that. 96 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: A part of me is like this is kind of 97 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: like a Jedi Master versus Padawan here with mals On, 98 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: although that would make Malson a Jedi Master, which I'm 99 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 2: not sure is really true. You gotta you gotta feel 100 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: in the game for anybody out there, because I'm probably 101 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: leaning Central Florida. I just haven't been on it yet. 102 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm leading Central Fux too. I also a ton 103 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: of value in the number. But something that's really interesting 104 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: in this game, and I think we're gonna see a 105 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: lot more of in college football is there was an 106 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: article to I think of the Dallas Morning News that 107 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of SMU players are sitting out and going 108 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: to transfer. None like that are that important. They all 109 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: play like you know, one of those starting safeties and 110 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: mescal beers, he has been really kind of phased out. 111 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: You had a receiver who have like an dr touchdown earlier, 112 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: has really been phased out the past couple of games. 113 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: But I think you're gonna see this more and more 114 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: with the nil type stuff, and you know you want 115 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: to preserve your red shirt, and then after four games 116 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: you'll see Henk bachmar Bachmar did the same thing for 117 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: Boise go somewhere else. I think it was rumored to 118 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: be maybe visiting Kentucky from what I heard, go somewhere else. 119 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: It's money making opportunity now preserve that red shirt. So 120 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if that says something bad about the 121 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: state of SMU right now like that the guys, or 122 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: it's just hey, these guys are looking out for themselves. 123 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, I would lean Central cluda. I think of 124 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: their offense can have success here from what I've seen 125 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: against from the SMU defense, but don't really love it. 126 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: I might just have it on and look for something live. 127 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: But it's just something to keep in mind. Is to 128 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 1: these red shirts and kids that are just gonna say 129 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm done, especially like if you get their couple losses 130 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: and you're kind of playing time has been dwindled. It's like, hey, 131 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm gonna preserve this red shirt. I'm gonna 132 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: go somewhere else and get another shot. 133 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: So, Brett, we can call this the Kelly Bryant effect 134 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: because if for those of you that don't remember, years ago, 135 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: Kelly Bryant played four games backup Trevor Lawrence was the 136 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: hot commodity for Clemson, didn't get a lot of playing time, 137 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: and after four games, Dabo was like, I mean, give 138 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: Dabo credit for at least being transparent, but he's like, 139 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: Trevor's the starter, and Kelly Bryan immediately went in, you know, 140 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: it's gonna sit the rest of the year, going to 141 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: the transfer portal. He ended up at Missouri. That's a 142 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: story we definitely don't need to tell. But you know, Brett, 143 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: with the new ways of college football, do we now 144 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: have to handicap which head coaches are being transparent with 145 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: their players about it, if they're going to burn their red 146 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: shirt or not. 147 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure how to do that, but You're 148 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: absolutely right, And yeah, give Dabo all the credit in 149 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: the world. He could have strung Kelly Bryan along, but 150 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: he was, you know, upfront with him to give him 151 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: the opportunity to move on. We'll see how many other 152 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: coaches do that. You know, some people are wondering if 153 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: Dabo was going to do that again, but it looks like, 154 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: I know, this is a DJ podcast according to Collins, 155 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: so he won't do that there. But you know, that's 156 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: the one uncertainty. And I don't know unless Stucky knows 157 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: a way to do it. But how do you handicap 158 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: you know, the coming and going of players, you know 159 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: when they It's basically a revolving door. There's no limit 160 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: on it. It can happen anytime. It's not like the NFL. 161 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: It's really hard to monitor. And if you can stay 162 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 3: ahead of that, like you guys do a lot of times, 163 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: you're ahead of the game. But man, it's just an 164 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: incredible crazy time right now. 165 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a constant monitoring and staying on top 166 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: of Twitter, and like I just will Google teams every week. 167 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: I just go to the news and then Google. That's 168 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: how you found this, SMU think and see what news 169 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: is out there. It's just it's a lot of manual labor. 170 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: But speaking of coaches, maybe this is where you're going 171 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: to go next. Ton with Christ is out at Wisconsin 172 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: and Durrell's out at Colorado. Brant any thoughts on who's 173 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: next and what your thoughts are, and I mean we do. 174 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: Durell is gone, well, Brian Harson's next. It's just it's 175 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: just a matter of when. Uh, you know the thing 176 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: with Paul Christ, I talked with some I talked with 177 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,359 Speaker 3: some people at Wisconsin, and you know, the ad Chris 178 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 3: McIntosh said that, you know, the program wasn't headed in 179 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 3: the right direction for the long term health of the program. YadA, YadA, YadA. Well, 180 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 3: this is the same guy that gave an extension two 181 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: hundred and forty six days ago. So I don't know 182 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: how that adds up. I was told by somebody that basically, 183 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 3: you know, Chris McIntosh is a new ad, he's inexperienced. 184 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 3: There had been a lot of you know, public outcry 185 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 3: for what was going on at Wisconsin, the demise of 186 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: the running game, and basically they were tired of waiting 187 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 3: for it to turn around. Whether that's the right move 188 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: or not, I don't know, but you just you look 189 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: what Paul Christ has done. I mean, geez, double digit 190 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: wins in four of the last six full seasons, six 191 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: and one in bowl games, three New Year six games, 192 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: sixty seven wins while he was at Wisconsin, the eleven 193 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: most wins of any FBS program in that span. But 194 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: my favorite note on Paul Christ is, of course his 195 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: quote from the twenty seventeen Orange Bowl game against Miami 196 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: when he's shown on the sideline saying, turnover chain, my 197 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: fucking ass. One of the good guys in the college 198 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: head coaching ranks. I think partly he decided that if 199 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 3: he wasn't wanted there, he wasn't going to fight it. 200 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: And he's like, okay, fine, I'm a Wisconsin alon. I'll 201 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: take one for the team if you will, and move on. 202 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: But certainly that was that was that was a surprise stuck. 203 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: I think you referenced it a week or so ago, 204 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 3: not that he would get fired, but there was some 205 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 3: stuff going on there. But you know, I surprised how 206 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: quickly they moved And you know, it just shows these 207 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 3: ads now they're not going to wait around till the 208 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: end of the season. If they don't have to so 209 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 3: they can get a jump on the next head coach. 210 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I thought it was I thought we 211 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: were firing coaches in October to make sure if they 212 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: got the bowl season they couldn't retain their job. Now 213 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: we're firing them at the end of September, which is, 214 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 2: you know, crazy enough for me. And if you look 215 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 2: at Wisconsin against old coach Brad Bilama, twenty four rushing 216 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: attempts in two yards on the ground two yards with 217 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: you know, with Braylan Allen there, who was you know, 218 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: dark horse for the Heisman to start the season stuck? 219 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: Do you we know Brian Harrison's on his way out. 220 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: Do you think we got anybody else getting fired here? 221 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: Do you think any other head coaches. 222 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: Are I'm looking at Sadderfield yea, And I said it. 223 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: I said, louisvill is right for like a bad loss 224 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: that they lose outright to BC. By the way, I 225 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: think Jim Leonard would be right for the I'm sure 226 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: he's probably one of the leading candidates to eventually be 227 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: the head coach at Wisconsin. Yeah, I'm looking at Sadderfield next. 228 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: That just makes a lot of sense, And maybe that's 229 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: a good transition into some of the quarterback injuries. There 230 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: are a ton of impactful quarterback injuries this week. 231 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 2: YEP. 232 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: One of them by the way, Malie Cunningham went out 233 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: for Louisville. His backup came in for like the last 234 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: three or four drives. His backup I think was one 235 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: of eight for four yards or something. So if he 236 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: can't play against Virginia this week, that's very bad. It 237 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: looks like Daniels for USU is going to play. I 238 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: was curious, can curious to see how that plays out from 239 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: a total and a spread perspective this week against Tennessee 240 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: because Kelly came out and said he wants them to 241 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: be more aggressive, right, he wants them to start taking 242 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: more shots. And so it looks like Daniels is going 243 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: to play for LSU. Then you have Bryce Young Hayn 244 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: will be out for Fresno against Boise. That's notable. Max 245 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: Johnson for Texas A and M against Alabama. Not like 246 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: it matters who quarterbacks came for A and M. They're 247 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: going to get drilled. But Max Johnson is questionable. And 248 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: then before we get the Texas Oklahoma, because that's a 249 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: whole different thing, what's the update on your boy kJ? 250 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: For Yeah, Kyeah, kJ Jefferson took a hit in the head, 251 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: came out. Cade Forton transferred in from South Florida. Before that, 252 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: he transferred there from North Carolina. He was I thought 253 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: our third string it's been decided that Malie Hornsby is 254 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: not our backup quarterback anymore, and his moved to wide receiver, 255 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: I guess is pretty much in some We thought that 256 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: he might transfer out of eating it to play quarterback. 257 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 2: So kJ Jefferson. Sam Pittman was very coy a couple 258 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: hours ago at his press conference, would not say that 259 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: kJ is in concussion protocol. He said, I've seen guys 260 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: that recover from this in four days. I've seen guys 261 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: take twenty seven days. I don't know what kind of 262 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: statement that is. This is the most uninformed quarterback injury 263 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: I've ever heard of. So that's one. A couple that 264 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: you didn't name, Stuck, I've needed some other schools. Brax 265 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: Andmeister gets knocked out from San Diego State. His backup 266 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: comes in Kyle Crumb. He gets knocked out of the game, 267 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: injured and escorted out to the locker room. He was 268 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: praised by Louis Ave. San Diego State has no quarterback. 269 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: I can't imagine I'm taking an over when you and 270 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: I never have. Yeah, and you mentioned, Oh, Henry Columbia 271 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: from Marshall took a hit. He went to the medical tent, 272 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: went back to the locker room, had a limp h. 273 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: So you know Marshall might be out without their quarterback. 274 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: I think one big one from a running back perspective 275 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: is CJ. Donaldson from West Virginia. 276 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: Uh. 277 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 2: He was the workhorse giving J. T. Daniels a spell 278 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: and standard down. So you know that's a pretty big 279 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: one there. And I guess we'll see what's going on 280 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: with Dylan Gabriel. I haven't seen an update today, but 281 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: second quarter he slid took a really bad hit against TCU. 282 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: I don't think the TCU defender was trying to do that, 283 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: but it was a nasty, nasty, targeting hit low to 284 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: the ground. 285 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: They don't have quarterback depth either, Like that's it's bad, 286 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: So I don't that's I would take. I might take 287 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: Texas now because if he's out, it looks like yours 288 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: is going to start. Card was great by the way 289 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: he was. He shredded West Virginia had like a perfect 290 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: quarterback rating under pressure too, so there. I think Stark 291 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: came out today and said they're as healthy as they've 292 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: been all year at the quarterback position, and so expect 293 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: yours to start. Card is there if you need them, 294 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: and if they're going against this Oklahoma defense and then 295 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: there's no Gabriel on the other side, I can't imagine 296 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: that this And we don't know the update. I assume 297 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: it's concussion and other stuff. And I think Venables came 298 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: out today and said that there's sort of levy. One 299 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: of them said that there will be an update tomorrow 300 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, so we'll see. But I imagine if Cabriel gets 301 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: ruled out, that line is blowing through seven. Yeah. 302 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: Now, Michael Michael Pratt's gonna be back for two lane 303 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: this week, right because Ibi Eda got knocked out of 304 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: that game and they went on to Kai Horton the 305 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: third string quarterback three three touchdowns. I'm not sure if 306 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: the two lane quarterback situation matters when the third string 307 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: is throwing three tds. But another one there for to watch, 308 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: uh in case you're lying watching with these quarterback injuries. 309 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: Well, by the way, if Jefferson's out, we know that 310 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: this is Will Rodgers is going to shred your secondary. Yeah, 311 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: if Jefferson's out is Arkansas, and it's an awful spot here, 312 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: like after text say them game, after the Alabama game. 313 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: Now you're going down to to Starkville. If Jefferson's out 314 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: is Architol, get getting drill here. 315 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: Well, what's funny is is the total opens up fifty 316 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: seven and a half yesterday, floats on out past sixty 317 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: two and then finally it took in some sharp money 318 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: in the last couple hours on the under. It's like, 319 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: is Arkansas going to contribute to this total? And if 320 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: Mississippi State's going to run their offense, you know it's 321 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: it's an offense that runs thirty seconds per play. So 322 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: I don't know how you can get over this total 323 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: if Arkansas is not going to contribute. But you know 324 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: they're not healthy enough at running back and now they're 325 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: not going to be healthy at quarterback and this could 326 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: be bad. I mean, alternate lines kJ Jefferson is worth 327 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: way more than the standard six points of the spread 328 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: when it comes to Arkansas. 329 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: YEP, I would agree. 330 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: So Brett, we kind of went nuts on the on 331 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: the injury situation. But you know, from a Heisman perspective, 332 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: I think CJ. Stroud is still in good standing. I 333 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: know the Trevion Henderson was a late script, but they 334 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: said that he's okay. Uh, he's going to play, you know. 335 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: I know Djungalily, I'm not sure if his counting stats 336 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: will ever get close to CJ. Stroud. 337 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: You know, but do we have a moment of silence 338 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: for Brett's Stetson Bennett Huisman. 339 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: Ticket you cut out, we're having a moment of silence. 340 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: We're having a moment of silence for the Stetson Bennett 341 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy. But stuck. He says we should just put 342 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: it to bed right now, put it out in the 343 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: past year. 344 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely not thirteen. 345 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: And oh he's got shot miss State take him out. 346 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: A couple of things I failed to mention. If you 347 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: want to predict who the next coach to be fired 348 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: is the four coaches that have been fired so far, 349 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 3: they were a combined four and fourteen against the spread 350 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: before they got whacked. So if you want to look 351 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: at some coaches you think are on the hot seat, 352 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: if they're not covering, that's probably a good sign. Also, 353 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: another quarterback injury. You got to keep an update on 354 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: Oregon State's chance Nolan next rain last week again, Collins 355 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: utes they're at Stanford this week, so that's time to 356 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 3: keep an eye on. 357 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: And Oregon State fans, by the way, are like, are 358 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: happy that that happen. You should ever be happy if 359 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: someone's injured to be because you had five of the 360 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: worst quarters you will ever see from a quarterback at 361 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: the Oregon State between the USC game and then the 362 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: start of that Utah game. He was bad and a 363 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: lot of people were speculating that he was benched, but 364 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: Jonathan Siskeyount said no, it was one hundred percent injury related. 365 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, certainly something to keep an eye on. 366 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean from an against the spread covering perspective, 367 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: Stanford hasn't covered a game, Colorado State we mentioned, Fresno 368 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: State hasn't covered a game. Colorado has already fired their coach. 369 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: And then there's a handful, at least more than there's 370 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: almost two dozen teams that have you know, only covered 371 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: one game, those being the Nebraska's, Virginia Tech, and Boston 372 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: colleges of the world. Although I think Boston College is 373 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: going to see some action this week. So you know, listen, 374 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: We've talked about this before. David Shaw is not getting 375 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: fired out at Stanford, no matter how many games they lose, 376 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: no matter how many times they don't cover, right Brett. 377 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. He's built up to metech. The same 378 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: with Pat Fitzgerald at Northwestern. Now you may see wholesale 379 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: changes on the staff, but they're not getting They're not 380 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: getting rid of Fits or David Shaw. 381 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: Before we get to the source of stuffer, let me just 382 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: ask you guys one question right now, as of right now, 383 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: from what we've seen from the top teams, is Clemson 384 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: gonna end up getting into the collegebab Playoff? And then 385 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 1: if you care about coming to that, fine, But more importantly, 386 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: as right now, who's going to be who's your national champion? 387 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: Is it? I see Georgia took a big step back again. 388 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: For me, it's the year of revenge. So I said 389 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: at the beginning of here, it's Alabama, Ohio State. I 390 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: still think that's where we're at. 391 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: Colin Well, Brett doesn't have Clemson in the Collegeable Playoff. 392 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: I'm checking his Bowl projections on the Action Network. He 393 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: still has it as a big ten sec all Collegeable Playoff. 394 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: But I am telling you right now the Clemson team 395 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 2: to beat in C State and the advanced numbers that 396 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: I'm seeing out of dj A, that is a college 397 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: football playoff team. Can they win a game in the 398 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: College Bable Playoff? I don't think so. But you know 399 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: what stuck you and I debated this on the podcast 400 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: last week. The defense hasn't been full strength. I mean, 401 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: they had guys in their two deep starting depth chart 402 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: that they put out and then you know, mccouba didn't 403 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: even show up and play. I mean he was still 404 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: too injured even though he was listed as being a 405 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: starter for that game, and then Bresi was out. That 406 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: defense has just had a lot of players. Xavier Thomas is, 407 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: you know, not there. So this is a defense I 408 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: think is going to be better in five weeks, six 409 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: weeks than it is now. So yes, I think Clemson 410 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 2: absolutely is gonna be in the Collegeable Playoff. Bret, are 411 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: you gonna go against your all big ten, all SEC 412 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: projection here? 413 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 3: I'm gonna stick with it until Michigan loses. I agree 414 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 3: that Clemson looks better and better every week. Also, USC 415 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: has to commit more than one turnover. They could screw 416 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 3: that up. I don't feel as confident about it because 417 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 3: I didn't. But Clemson has improved greatly so and look, 418 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 3: i'd love it. I'd rather have four conferences in there 419 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: instead of Speo or three. So, but I'm gonna stick 420 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: with Michigan until they drop a game. 421 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: So what do you think? Who you got anybody outside 422 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: the Big three that you think can get there and 423 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 2: win a game. Actually, you're not a believer in Clemson? 424 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: Did you? Did you become a believer? 425 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now. No, I'm gonna tell 426 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: you who it is right now. It's a man who 427 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: has many thoughts on eloping, a man who has many 428 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: thoughts on weddings, a man has been many thoughts about 429 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: many things. Michael Leach in Mississippi State. Their schedule is 430 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: in sanity a loss, but they're gonna have opportunities to 431 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: pick people off. I doubt we'll be able to get there, 432 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: but by the end of the year they could be 433 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: like a top five or sixteen. So now Arkansas is 434 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 1: gonna beat him, now that I'm saying this, But with 435 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: Will Rodgers in that offense and the defense is really good, 436 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: I don't know They're like a name already have a 437 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: loss and their schedule is way too hard. So I 438 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: don't think I can't really seriously say that they're going 439 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: to get to the Collegeable Playoff because it's I doubt it, Tennessee. 440 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: Maybe they're gonna play Georgia. Mississippi State's gonna play Georgia. 441 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: That's why I'm mentioned in these teams, And like they 442 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: have the offenses that if for whatever reason, they got 443 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: there that fourteen and we're trying to figure out, you're 444 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: gonna have to go in here, you have to score 445 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: a ton of points to beat Alabama Ohio State, right, 446 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: so you have to have an offense that is you're 447 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: not gonna stop them. You're gonna have that an offensive 448 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: just goes off and keeps up with them and beats 449 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: them in a shootout. So I don't know those are 450 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: the names, but I really think at the end of 451 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: the day, it's we're gonna have two left standing, and 452 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: that's Alabama and Ohio State. 453 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think that's crazy. I mean I 454 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: project them to be. If they were to play Clemson, 455 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: mississip State Tennessee were to play Clemson right now in 456 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: a neutral field, I'd make the game three and a half. 457 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not crazy whatsoever. It's just, you know, 458 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: the riggors of this SEC schedule, Teams getting beat up, 459 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 2: injuries going on, Georgia, not being able to stop you 460 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: at the point of attack. I mean, I mean Missisippi 461 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: State Tennessee is an SEC championship game, not completely out 462 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: of the realm of you know, we don't know what Bryceou, 463 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: what's gonna havep with Bryceou? So we'll see. All right, 464 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: it is time for sources Stumper Brett. I will hand 465 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: it over to you because obviously this is not my 466 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: section of the podcast. 467 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: That's become very apparent. 468 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: May sound easy, but it will test your head and 469 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: your mind and your brain too. 470 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: I go. I don't claim to be no. Thirty six act. 471 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: Sources Stumper America's favorite game show, Stucky leads so far 472 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 3: six to two. The Collins six points are available today 473 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 3: Stucky goes first, and in honor of our Crack college 474 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: football editor Pete Rud's birthday, Pete is an Iowa Hawkeye fan. 475 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 3: I wasn't sure how many are still left, but he's 476 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 3: one of them, and anywhere I hope he scores more 477 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 3: on his birthday than Iowa's offense this year. And speaking 478 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 3: of Iowa last week against Michigan, and i was trying 479 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: to win for the sixth time against a top five team. 480 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 3: They obviously were not successful. However, that is nowhere near 481 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: the most wins against top five teams as an unranked team, 482 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: So stuck. Here's the question, what are the four teams 483 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: that have the most wins when they are unranked when 484 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 3: they play against a top five team in the ap 485 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 3: pole era since nineteen thirty six? Two hints for you guys. 486 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 3: The top four teams are all Power five schools, and 487 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 3: three of these four schools are from the same conference. Stucky, 488 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: what's your first guest? 489 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: Let's go with the spoiler makers. Purdue. 490 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 3: Wow, Stucky, nice job. They have seventeen wins against top 491 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: five opponents, more than any school on planet Earth. 492 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: Colin, you're up well recently too, I think you don't 493 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: Hire State. I think exactly. 494 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Ohio say one was that was the other 495 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: team that I know has upset top five teams all 496 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: the time recently, is Pittsburgh. Can I go with Pittsburgh? 497 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: You can go with Pittsburgh. They're not in the top four. Yeah, sorry, Stuck. 498 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay Big ten, and I'm gonna say Penn State. 499 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 3: That is not correct, Stuck. 500 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: Sorry, they're probably right too much. 501 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay in the division and say Michigan State. 502 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Colin, you're on the board. Spartans ten wins against 503 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 3: top five opponents when they are unranked, so obviously I'm 504 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 3: looking for another Big ten team. 505 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Wisconsin. 506 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 2: Nope, and I'm gonna say Minnesota Nope. 507 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 3: It's like a tennis match. Ohio State unranked, they're unranked, Nope, 508 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: that's what I guess. 509 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 2: I'm down to two really terrible teams. So let's go 510 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: in Nebraska. 511 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 3: Sorry, Colin, Stucky, you're sir. 512 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go outside, going to go out of the 513 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: Big ten. I don't know what it could be. How 514 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: about Arkansas? 515 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: No? Okay? Colin Illinois Illinois? 516 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: Yes, nice. So they have eleven wins against top five teams. 517 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: So now we're down to one more prior five school. 518 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 3: It is not in the Big ten. 519 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: Auburn No, yes, that was a good guess. That's all 520 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 2: I will say. 521 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 3: LSU wrong, Okay, it's a Pac twelve school. Go ahead, start. 522 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: Man USC YEP. 523 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: Very good. They've got eleven top five wins, so two 524 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: points each. Since it's ou Texas week, I got a 525 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: bonus question for you guys and the about the past 526 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: eighty years since World War Two. I was a freshman 527 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: in college back then. This will mark how many times 528 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 3: has this game been played? And basically the past eighty 529 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 3: years we're both team teams have not been ranked like 530 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: this year, So Stuck, give me a number, and then Colin, 531 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: you make a guess and closest closest win. So out 532 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 3: of eighty years, how many times will this make it 533 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 3: that both teams are not ranked? 534 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: I have five, Colin has eight. 535 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: Up, Oh wow, Stuck, it was this is the sixth time. 536 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: Oh great, guys, wow. 537 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: Eighty year history and this is only six times both 538 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: teams are not ranked. Have fun in the SEC and 539 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: the final question, Colin, you get to go first. What's 540 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: the last year that both Oklahoma and Texas were not 541 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 3: ranked when they met? 542 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 2: In doubts, I'm gonna go nineteen ninety eight, Stuck. 543 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: I think that's right. That's crazy. I was gonna say 544 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. I think I've read it today. I'll 545 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: make it fun. I'll say nineteen ninety nine. 546 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 3: Colin, you nailed it and Stuck. You're right too, But 547 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 3: Colin went first. It was nineteen ninety eight. 548 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: People forget how bad, oh you was before that national 549 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: championship win against Florida State. That team was so bad. 550 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: They were in a bad position before that. 551 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were also unranked in nineteen ninety seven. So 552 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: bad two year stretch there for for bev Oh and Boomer. 553 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 3: So current leaderboard stucky nine points calling five. You didn't 554 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 3: didn't lose any ground, but you didn't gain any ground either. 555 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: And now, Brad wait trivia a trivia question for you. 556 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: Who was the defensive coordinator on that ninety eight Oklahoma team? 557 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 3: The head coach was John Blake? 558 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: Uh you, but who was the decordinator? Jesus Ted Ruth 559 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan. 560 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, I. 561 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 3: Was an Oklahoma State fan the late nineties. That that 562 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: was the good old days for US. Oklahoma went through 563 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: went through Blake, Schnellenberger, Gary Gibbs rough times, and then 564 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 3: some guy named Stoops got hired and kind of hadn't 565 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 3: changed ever since. 566 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: Love that spur your advisory brought it over, brought it 567 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 2: over all? Right, Oh, I have not made up any 568 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: ground on Stuckey and the sources Stumper. We'll try again 569 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: next week before we move on to the very last segment, 570 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: which is one big takeaway. We are six and one 571 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 2: on this show, this very short career of this fabulous podcast, 572 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 2: the New BCS. We are six and one in our 573 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: early week one takeaway wager. Guys, I'm gonna go first. 574 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take San Jose State. They're gonna be playing 575 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: this week against UNLV. If you're gonna play against UNLV 576 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: and and Brumfield and Robbins and that ground attack that 577 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: UNLV has, you have to be good on the ground 578 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: right now. San Jose State's defense twenty first in the 579 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: nation and stuff rate, they're not gonna have a problem 580 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: stopping the run. So I'm gonna continue to ride the Spartans, 581 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: which cashed for us on the show on our on 582 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: our round robin the other day, So stuck on pivot 583 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: to you. What do you got for one big takeaway 584 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: wager on this podcast? 585 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: Right, Let's stay Let's stay ugly as always in the 586 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: state the weekday last week we laid six with Poise, 587 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: which didn't look great early, but man, their cutter and 588 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: there's halftime adjustments and getting the getting the quarterback run 589 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: going in the second half was amazing. They just destroyed 590 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: saying they're a. 591 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: Play on team with Taylor Green right there, they are 592 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: now a play on offense. 593 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, Now it might not look as good because 594 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: teams are gonna be like, all right, now, this is 595 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: what they want to do. But the yeah, they're a 596 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: lot more dynamic. Now I'm gonna let's look, We're gonna say, 597 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: really ugly, we go. Colorado State plus three and a half. 598 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: I don't think they've covered all year at in Nevada. 599 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: This is the Jay Norvelle Bowl. He left his whole staff, 600 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: a bunch of players are going back, so there's gonna 601 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: be like a lot of emotions for this game. The 602 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: biggest thing for me with Colorado State is they have 603 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: been unbeedable because they have no offensive line. They're also 604 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: transitioning to a new scheme. They haven't had one of 605 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: their best offensive linemen for three weeks. They lost another one. 606 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: There's also a couple more. It looks like they're all 607 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: back this week, which is massive, like they'll actually be 608 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: able to block somebody. So I think that this game 609 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: is disgusting. It's at ten thirty on Friday Night. It's awful, 610 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: but I think it's basically like a coin flip with 611 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: Colorado State having their offensive line guys back. So I'll 612 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: take the hook and the three and a half and 613 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: we will suffer together. On CBS Sports Network. 614 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: Two Friday Night picks for our one takeaway wager Brett, 615 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: wrap up the show. You got you got something? Let 616 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: me see who else's plan on Friday? You gotting? Nebraska 617 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: Rutgers picks for us. No. 618 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: Look, if any listener is gonna watch Colorists at State Nevada, 619 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 3: I'd rather watch Aaron Judge walk for the next twenty 620 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 3: at bats then watching Colorado State Nevada. Why didn't you 621 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 3: go with Fiu yukon stack? Are you saving on the 622 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 3: Saturday show? 623 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm saving that for Saturday. I'm writing that game up. 624 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm a massichift. 625 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah so, and I know, you know, I know there's 626 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 3: a lot of people listening right now wondering why didn't 627 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 3: Brett mention his record at started the show. Well, you know, 628 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 3: I didn't go six and ot like the previous week. 629 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,239 Speaker 3: I went four and too, So I'm ten and two 630 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: in the last two weeks. If you know, that's important 631 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 3: to you guys. Look, I'm sticking with my purple rain, 632 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: and that is the TCU horn Frogs. I put this 633 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 3: in the app Sunday at four and a half. I 634 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 3: did not move the line. Everybody smart. Now it's up 635 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 3: to seven. I still like TCU. 636 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: Before the season. 637 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: You mocked me for my Oklahoma State go back in 638 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: time take Oklombas State over win total, which we'll hit. 639 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 3: But I also said my long shot that I liked, 640 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: which you guys did too. I think Colin did was 641 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 3: TCU Kansas is getting a lot of love. They deserve it. Stucky, 642 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 3: you watch the Iowa State game. I watched it, Colin, 643 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 3: you watched it. Very fortunate, if not for some questionable 644 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: coaching by Matt Campbell. I just think TCU is too strong. 645 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: The one concern I have is the letdown factor. But 646 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 3: when you're going to play in college game day, I 647 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 3: think that will take care of that. And I just 648 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 3: think the horn Frogs are too strong. I think they 649 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 3: pull away in the second half. So let's let me 650 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: give me some more purple rain with the TCU Horned 651 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 3: Frogs and coach Senny Dykes. 652 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: I love that pick. I know, Stucky and I are 653 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: gonna break it down big time. The more Kansas their 654 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: offense is on tape and the more they show all 655 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: that motion, the more that Joseph Gillespie gets to dice 656 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: that up Stuck. Do you like that pick by Brett? 657 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: I haven't dove into that game yet, but just from 658 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: a numbers perspective and on the surface, yes, I agree. 659 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: Awesome, that's gonna do it for us. Stucky Brett joining 660 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: me for the new BCS. Make sure download the BBOC 661 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: the rest of the week. The group of five guys 662 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 2: will go on Wednesday, and Stucky and I will be 663 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 2: back on Thursday for our Week six college football preview, 664 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: and then you can catch three of us, Brett, Stucky 665 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: and myself on BBOC Live Saturday mornings at ten thirty Eastern. 666 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: See you guys, then cheers.