1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Not everybody can dh. Everybody thinks this. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 2: Big Poppy did it, or Edgar Martinez did it because 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: Shoey O'tani did. 4 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Everyone thinks it's easy. It's not. 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 3: Front office unfiltered. Let's do this. Jim Boden is back 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 3: with us. JB. Great to see you. We had a 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 3: long spring training tour and now we got to get 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 3: to business. 9 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 4: And business started right away this weekend with the Yankees 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 4: absolutely destroying the Brewers and making them look like a 11 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 4: minor league team. 12 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: But the torpedo bats take center stage. 13 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 4: So what was your thought on this when you saw 14 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 4: the news of some of the players using the torpedo bats? 15 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 4: And did you ever hear of them when you were 16 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 4: running the Reds or the Nationals. 17 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: No, I've never heard of a torpedo bat until Sunday, 18 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: right when Michael Kay brought it up, when Anthony Volpi 19 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 2: came to the plate. So the first thing I did 20 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: obviously reach out to the Commissioner's office. 21 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 5: Is this thing legal? 22 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: And of course the commission Office comes back and says, 23 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: as long as the diameter is within two point six 24 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: inches at the fattest part, as long as it's not 25 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: longer than forty two inches and that's one piece of wood. 26 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: Then it is legal, so obviously it's a legal bat. Obviously, 27 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: there have been players that have been aware of this 28 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: from last year. There were players that used to it 29 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: in Arizona Fall League. We found out over the last 30 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: forty eight hours. But yeah, I just learned about this now. 31 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: My first idea, my first blush was brilliant and it 32 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: brought back memories of when I was a GM in 33 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: the mid nineties because I had traded for a Gold 34 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: Glove centerfielder by the name of Darren Lewis, and Darren 35 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: Lewis would hit every single ball two inches below the 36 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: sweet spot, like all the time, and I just couldn't 37 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: understand it. And I would go to the hitting coaches 38 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: and are hitting people and say, isn't there's something we 39 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: can do because it's literally he's consistent where he hits 40 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: the ball, but it's never. 41 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: On the barrel. It's always just below it. 42 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: There's got to be a way, and you know, we 43 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: couldn't figure it out. And in his career he couldn't 44 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: figure it out. And it was funny because the last 45 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: two years I kept watching Anthony Bope and I'm going 46 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: I wonder why he doesn't barrel it more? Right, you 47 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: watch Jazz Chisholm, you wonder why he doesn't barrel. 48 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 5: It more well. 49 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: The Yankees last year apparently had a physicist in there 50 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: was now with the Marlins, who sat there and came 51 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: up with the idea of customizing bats based on how 52 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: it where hitters hit the ball, and so he it's 53 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: a genius. 54 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: It's brilliant. 55 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 5: I feel stupid. I didn't think about it. 56 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: And so now they've designed a bat that is perfect 57 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: for Volpe and Chisholm, at least two players. Where Okay, 58 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: if you're always going to hit the ball most of 59 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: the time below that label, then let's just make that 60 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 2: the fat part. So when you are hitting it bear, 61 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: it's got a chance to leave with exit velocity or 62 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: be able to get distance. So I got to tell 63 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: you that my view of it, it's brilliant. And I 64 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: got to tell you if I woke up this morning 65 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: as a GM or manager or a player and I 66 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: wasn't aware of this, or I haven't tried it, I 67 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: would go to my analytic people and say, okay, where 68 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: do I make contact? 69 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 5: Where on the bat? 70 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: And let's design a bat specifically for me, based on 71 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: the last three years of data, that's what I would do. 72 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 5: I think it's brilliant. 73 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 6: I'm going to, like I said before, I'm gonna need 74 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 6: more than that forty two inches you're allowed because those 75 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 6: sliders just kept going farther and farther away. Was there 76 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 6: something when you was there? Was there a piece of 77 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 6: equipment change or something that when you were a GM 78 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 6: that you saw come in similar to this. I know 79 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 6: we're at the infant stage of everybody finding out about this, 80 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 6: but was there something that you saw come in and 81 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 6: you were like, wholl this is gonna be the thing? 82 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 6: And then it never? It never Like the axe handle 83 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 6: was a thing for a long time on the bats 84 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 6: and then some guys got some hanmdmate hanmdmate bones broken 85 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 6: and they blamed it on that and it kind of 86 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 6: didn't get as much public. Some guys still use them. 87 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I hate to. 88 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: Put the business side of being a GM hat on, 89 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: but I've got to do that because I think one 90 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: of the things that really stands out is the fact 91 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: that the bomb bat came right when I was the 92 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: farm director and I'm like, Wow, we're gonna save a 93 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: lot of money because these bats don't break because we 94 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: spent so much money in the minor leagues, you have 95 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: all those cheap bats that break all the time, and 96 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, these bomb bats are gonna be the best. 97 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: And it ended up not working because you're really the 98 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: hitters weren't able to get the feel of the barrel right. 99 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: They really didn't get the feel they needed. So it 100 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: didn't really turn into the money saving solution that we 101 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: were looking for at that time. But that's really the 102 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: only huge change of equipment really that I dealt with. 103 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 7: Hey, Jim, just to let you know they're still using 104 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 7: those bomb bats on the travel ball circuit. Drives me crazy, 105 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 7: But I want to ask you about I know it's early, 106 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 7: you've done this for a long time, but there was 107 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 7: a lot of talk about the Padres and all the 108 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 7: turmoil that was going on and lack of moves and 109 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 7: dumping payroll. Is what we saw real from the Padres 110 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 7: or was that just you know, a product of how 111 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 7: good they're pitching. 112 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 8: Is I'm just curious or is there any team that 113 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 8: surprised you in this early weekend of baseball? 114 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, first of all, I think the Padres 115 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: are real, Sure, that's I think, as long as I'm 116 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: glad they didn't trade Dylan's Michael King, I think that's huge. 117 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: I love watching Jeremy Estrada close that game out last night. 118 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: That was phenomenal with his ninety eight going right at 119 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 2: the Braves. You know, I think one of the question 120 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: marks was left field with the Padres right after losing 121 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: Jerks and Profar, and you saw Locke Ridge yesterday go 122 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: the other way show off his speed a little bit. 123 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: Bogart seems comfortable going back to shortstop, which was his 124 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: original position anyway. So yeah, look, I'm not saying that 125 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: the Padres are going to win one hundred games. I 126 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: don't think that's the case. I mean, the Dodgers are 127 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: going to win this division, but the Padres will fight 128 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks for second place and for a while card Birth. 129 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: I think they're that kind of team. I mean, they 130 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: didn't lose that much this offseason. Yes, they lost us 131 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: On Kim and Profar, and I'm not going to downplay 132 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: the losses of them and the injury to Joe Musgrove, 133 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: of course, but this is a really good team and 134 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: they're run by a really aggressive GM and aj Preller 135 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: who knows how to get a piece when he needs it. 136 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people really didn't comprehend 137 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 2: or grasp how good Jackson Merrill is. And when you 138 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: have to he's leading off and you've got Marilyn Machado, 139 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 2: you're gonna score runs. 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And did you see anything 168 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 6: different in his swing this first series? 169 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 8: Yeah? 170 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 5: So, Eric, let me tell you my take on Raphaeld Devers. 171 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you two mental reasons and I'll give 172 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: you two physical reasons. So I'm gonna give you four reasons. 173 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: Let's start with a mental part of it. Right, It's 174 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 2: the way you handled Alex Bregman. 175 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 5: Right. 176 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure Rafael Devers heard they were signing him, but 177 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 2: during that whole process, they kept saying perhaps Bregnant to 178 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: play second base, and the Red Sox never came out 179 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: and said, well, if we signed Bregnant, we're gonna move 180 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: Devers to DH. They never went to Rafael Devers and said, hey, 181 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: we may sign Bregman and if we do, you're gonna 182 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: be the full time DH. They didn't do that. They 183 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: signed Bregnant and then they tried to deal with it, 184 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: so they mishandled it. And Devers, as you remember, in February, 185 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: what did he say. He came out and said, I'm 186 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: not moving, I'm not going to first, I'm not dhing. 187 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 5: I'm a third baseman. 188 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: Now, Alex Cord did a good job in a month 189 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: of showing empathy, of showing patients before he basically just 190 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: came out and said, Pregnant's my third baseman. You're the 191 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: DH Raphael. So we're here about winning. That gives us 192 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: the best chance to win, that's what you have to do. 193 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: But mentally, a twenty eight year old player who just 194 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: signed a three hundred and thirteen point five million. 195 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 5: Dollar deal the previous year, all of. 196 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: A sudden has now told you have to DH. 197 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he could try to say the right things 198 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: and try to say red Sox first. But mentally that's 199 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: got to get to him. Second mental issue is not 200 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: everybody can DH. Everybody thinks because Big Poppy did it, 201 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: or Edgar Mark Keenas did it, because Shoey o'tany did everyone. 202 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: Thinks it's easy. It's not. 203 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: There are so many hitters that just can't dage right. 204 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: So Raphael Devers, he doesn't have a routine. Watch him 205 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: between at bats. He sits in the dugout. It's not 206 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: like he goes and gets on a bike or goes 207 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: underneath and hits right. We've been watching him in the dugout. 208 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: Just wait for his next to batty. He got pitch 209 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: run for and went to the dugout and salked. So 210 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: mentally the way he was handled and mentally him having 211 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: to adjust to the DH spot has been huge. Now Physically, 212 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: I don't think his shoulders are healthy. And I know 213 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: they can't be healthy because if they were, we would 214 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: have seen him at the beginning of spring training. Why 215 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: wasn't he there at the beginning of spring training because 216 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: the shoulders weren't right? Okay, the other physical reason. 217 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: Is he's overweight. 218 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: You don't have to be a genius to look at 219 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: the video of him a year ago and look at 220 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: him now. 221 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 5: He's way overweight. 222 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: And so if you're the Red Sox, okay, we know 223 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: those four issues are there. 224 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: You got to fix it. 225 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: Oh for sixteen with twelve k's come on, So you 226 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: got to bring David ortiz In talked in. You gotta 227 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 2: have Bregnant's, you know, locker next to him. You gotta 228 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: give him love, and you got to get him with nutritionists. 229 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: You gotta get him with the medical people. You gotta 230 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: get him with the training people. You gotta find ways 231 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 2: to get him back to be Rafayeldever's at the plate. 232 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: You gotta figure out a routine for him in between 233 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: at bats, in between games so that he can stay 234 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: in shape. The other thing is when you go, oh 235 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: for sixteen with twelve punch outs, you're thinking about it. 236 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: If you're playing third base, you can run out the 237 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: third base, make a diving play, throw a guy out, 238 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: and then lee. The bat doesn't stick with you when 239 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: you're only dhing, that's all you're doing, and you're not 240 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: even they're pinch running for you, so you don't even 241 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: get to run the bases. So here here's my point. 242 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 2: You created this black hole. Now you gotta figure a 243 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: way to fill it in. You gotta figure out way 244 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: to fix it. You got to give him love, You 245 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: got to help him, You gotta support him. It'll probably 246 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: take a month, but you'll get there because he's a 247 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: really good hitter. 248 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 8: Damn, Jim, that's so many issues. I don't even want 249 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 8: to touch that. 250 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 7: But while you talk about things being difficult, what I 251 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 7: do want to talk about is the early struggles of 252 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 7: Roki Sazaki finding the strikes all while the Dodgers continue 253 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 7: to thrive. What are you hearing there as far as 254 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 7: about loving on him and keeping him confident, because we 255 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 7: know it's not easy to come over from a different 256 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 7: league over to the big leagues and dominate like we've 257 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 7: seen some guys do, and we see Yamamoto get it 258 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 7: going after a slow struggle last year. What are you 259 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 7: hearing as far as his psyche and his mental goes. 260 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think what he's doing is what we all expected. Right. 261 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: We talked about it on this show. I've written about 262 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: it in The Athletic And the reason that I talked 263 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: about I wrote about it is because all of the 264 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: teams that had scouted Sasaki, including his agency, had told 265 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: all of us that when Sasaki got here, he is 266 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 2: not polished. He's not a finished product, and don't expect 267 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,359 Speaker 2: him to be you Darvish or Masahara Tanako or Yashanoba 268 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: Yamamoto's that's not what he's going to be. He's not ready. 269 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: And the example that we use was, it's like a 270 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: first round pick from a year ago. You took the 271 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: picture first overall, but he's not major league ready yet. Right, 272 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: He's not Paul Skeins or Steven Strasburg that can be 273 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 2: drafted and go right in the rotation. Now, we all 274 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: love this stuff, right, one hundred and two on hour 275 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: fastball with a split finger or forkball, whatever you want 276 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: to call it. When it's in the strike zone, it's unhittable. 277 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: That drop is ridiculous. It's one of the best I've 278 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: ever witnessed. Like it's that good. But all of you know, right, 279 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: and you guys have played Eric Cameron, you know it's 280 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 2: all about command and control at the big league level. 281 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: I don't care how good your stuff is. You got 282 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: to command it, You got to control it. You gotta 283 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: have savvy, you gotta have poise, You gotta have composure, 284 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: You've got to have mental toughness, you have to have 285 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 2: all those things. All of that was a question with 286 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: Sasaki in Japan. And then when he went through this 287 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: process and started misleading everybody from the teams that were 288 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: pursuing him to the media, what was that all about? Right, 289 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: It seems to me like that's just immaturity. Now, I 290 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: love the talent. I've said it before, I'll say it again. 291 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: Someday he's going to win a Sall Young Award, but 292 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: he's not ready the Dodgers. You've got a couple of 293 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: options here. Number One, you got to hope he bounces 294 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: back in his next start. That's going to be important, 295 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: and you got to hope that he keeps improving. You've 296 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: got to see how he handles adversity like this. But 297 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: if he doesn't handle it well, you can't be afraid 298 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: to do one of two things. One option him out 299 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: the triple A. Let him go to the miners, not 300 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: under the big lights, and let him figure out how 301 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: to get control and command to add, subtract, own the 302 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: strike zone. 303 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 5: Pitch more like a real estate agent. The other option 304 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 5: you have. 305 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: At some point it's okay if you want to put 306 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: him in the bullpen, you're gonna limit his innings anyway, 307 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: and when you get Otawny back or Kershaw back or 308 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: Gonsolin back, it's okay if you want to put him 309 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: in the bullpen and have him maybe pitch. 310 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 5: Two innings in a role where just fill up the strike. 311 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: Zone, pitch ahead, go after the guys, stay in the 312 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: strike zone. But this should not be a surprise. He's 313 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 2: not the finished product, and we knew that coming in. 314 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 6: You kind of danced around it a little bit. Do 315 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 6: you feel like it is a from your view, it's 316 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 6: a mechanical issue or a fear of getting your fastball 317 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 6: hit issue, because a lot of Japanese pitchers come over you, 318 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 6: Darvis Masa here at Sanaka, guys that are afraid to 319 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 6: get their fastball hit. What do you feel like it 320 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 6: is with rookie. 321 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's the mental first, which causes the mechanics. 322 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: So it's both right. I mean, mechanics usually is what 323 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: causes not having the command and control or being able 324 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: to repeat the delivery or having consistency there. But it's 325 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: the mental part that puts it there. Because we've seen 326 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: a clean delivery from him, so we know that delivery 327 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: is there. I do think it's between the years, and 328 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: I think that's a lot of times normal we've seen. 329 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: I remember when Randy Johnson came to the big leagues 330 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: and was walking one hundred plus guys a year. He 331 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: had no command or control whatsoever. And it took him 332 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: time and he figured it out and he's a Hall 333 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: of Famer now, right. So you know, for Susaki, I 334 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: just think, you know, we got out patients. It's hard 335 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: to do it when you're in LA. You're hard to 336 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: do it with the best team in the world and 337 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: the Dodgers don't have to watch forever. 338 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 5: But the best thing Versusaki is. 339 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: The environment he's in, right, He's with Otani and Yamamodo, 340 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: he's with Clayton Kershaw, He's with a tremendous pitching room, 341 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: a great analytic department. 342 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 5: He can't be in a better spot. 343 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: But as you know, Eric, this is about human beings 344 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: making decisions in the biggest moments, with the most eyes 345 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: put on you, the most pressure, and you've got to 346 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: be able to handle it, and you've got to be 347 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: able to get through it physically. 348 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna be fine. 349 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: Mechanically, he is gonna be fine, but you've got to 350 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: get that mental toughness part, and you've got to have 351 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: that focus, poise and composure and be able to handle 352 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: adversity you get hit. 353 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 5: So what go back right at him? 354 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 8: Hey, Jim, I want to stay there. 355 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 7: This is my last one on Roki because you just 356 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 7: you make some great points and I'm curious you get 357 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 7: You gave some really good options talking about possibly going 358 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 7: to the minor leagues and possibly get moved to the bullpen. 359 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 7: As a former GM who's very in touch with with players, 360 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 7: if let's say the scenario does happen where he does 361 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 7: struggle next outing for his psyche as a GM. 362 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 8: What do you think would be the best benefit for him. 363 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 7: Do you think it would be good for him to 364 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 7: go there for his mental or would it be just 365 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 7: just stay with that great pitching staff, stay with all 366 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 7: that great those great resources, and just go to the pen. 367 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 7: I'm curious on what what do you think? 368 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question, Cameron, and I think you 369 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: have to be there. You have to really understand the player, 370 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: and you have to get input from Otani and Yamamoto 371 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: and some of the players around him to try to 372 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: figure that out. You know, is he the kind of 373 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: guy that's going to be able to handle being optioned 374 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: to the minor leagues? 375 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 5: Is that something that. 376 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: He'll be able to handle, is going to the bullpen 377 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: something that he would understand? I mean, he did that 378 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: in Japan. You know that that might be the easier transition. 379 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: But as you mentioned, Cameron, the key is really understanding 380 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: the person, his support system around him, his teammates and 381 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: friends around him, to try to try. 382 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 5: To get the vibe. 383 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: Because the goal, if you're the Dodgers is how can 384 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: I make Susake be the picture we know he's going 385 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: to be. What's the best way to develop him not 386 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: just as a pitcher, but as a human being? How 387 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: can I make it work with him? And sometimes, you know, 388 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: the intangibles, the human element is just as important as 389 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 2: the business decision of where to put him. You know, 390 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: you can kind of parallel it with a Red Sox 391 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: decision with Devers. Right, there's that strict business decision where 392 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: best with devs dhing, But there's also the human element 393 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 2: that sometimes doesn't make the best business decision the right decision. 394 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: JB. 395 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 4: Let's finish with extensions, Brandon fought got an extension with 396 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 4: the Diamondbacks, which looked good. 397 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: I actually liked the. 398 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 4: Justin Martinez one because you don't have to go to 399 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 4: arbitration and mess with the saves and then the price 400 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 4: gets all weird. 401 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 3: They can just close him now. 402 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 4: They don't have to worry about that, and then you know, 403 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 4: I also wanted to mix in two more here. Christian 404 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 4: Campbell is apparently in talks with the Red Sox already. 405 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 4: That sounds great, but gets me thinking about a team 406 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: like the Oriels badly. 407 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: Richman is back. 408 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 4: I know that sometimes as a team doesn't want to 409 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 4: take advantage of an extension opportunity when a player's coming 410 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 4: off a down year because you're going to look at numbers. 411 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 4: The league might not like that, but I'm like, damn, 412 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 4: this actually seemed like the time to pull that off. 413 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 4: So what are your thoughts on I guess all the 414 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 4: extension talks that have been going on right now, spilling 415 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 4: into the beginning of the season. 416 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Scott, the best contracts you make are the 417 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: ones where you sign the player before he does it. 418 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: From a club's perspective, that's the only way I'm going 419 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: to save money. Just like Allaxonthopolis did with Ronda Kunya 420 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: Junior and Nazzie Albi's contracts, which has saved him literally. 421 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 5: Over one hundred million dollars. 422 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: You got to do it early, and that's exactly what 423 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: Mikasen is doing in Arizona. Get Brandon Fought done before 424 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: he does it. 425 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 5: That's what he did. 426 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: And by the way, also has Zach Galla, Merrill Kelly 427 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: free agents at the end of this year. And we 428 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: know what happens when a pitcher develops, how much money 429 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: they're going to get. For example, if I'm in Seattle, 430 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: it's too late to sign Logan Gilbert. If I'm signing 431 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert now and I'm representing Gilbert, I'm getting the 432 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: Corbyn Burns deal. But if you're Seattle, you have to 433 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: sign Brian Wohen Rice Miller right now before they do it. 434 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 2: With Adlee Rutchman, I would have signed him two years 435 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: ago before he does it now. When you have Boris clients, 436 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: that can be tricky because he'll take you a free agency. 437 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 2: But if you're a GM, you've got to get these 438 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 2: guys signed early. You know, if you're the Red Sox, 439 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: go get Campbell and by the way, go do Roman 440 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: Anthony too right, Get Anthony before he does it. I 441 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: don't care if it's before he gets his first big 442 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 2: league get back, because you're gonna save millions. You have 443 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 2: to be right on the player. You can't be wrong. 444 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 2: But if you have the hit tool like Campbell and Anthony, 445 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: have get him done before they do it, like the Braves, 446 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 2: the Dacunyan Alby's. Otherwise, look what happened to Guerrero. Could 447 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: have had him at one hundred and fifty, then you 448 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 2: could have had him at three hundred. 449 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: Now five hundred. Don't even get him done. The same guy. 450 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 2: So in the case of Campbell, this is interesting because 451 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 2: I had never heard of him. And last June, I'm 452 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: in a Portland Sea Dogs game eating a lobster roll 453 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: and Campbell comes to the plate and he hits two 454 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 2: rockets and I dropped my lobster. I'm like, who is 455 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 2: this guy? So I go to MLB Pipeline. They don't 456 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 2: have him in the top one hundred. I go to 457 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: Baseball America. They don't have him in the top one hundred. 458 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 2: So I go on my front Office show on Series XM, 459 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 2: and I start praising Campbell. I don't know who this 460 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: guy is, but this guy can flat out hit. And 461 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: now look at him today. Look how he shot up 462 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: prospect rankings that quickly. But when you watch him play, 463 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: you see sweet spot contact, you see the barrel, you 464 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: see the exit velocity, you see quick twitch muscle, you 465 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: see the athleticism in there. 466 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 5: You see him play second. 467 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: You see him play left this. 468 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: First game in left field, he shows great range and 469 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 2: great extension and almost caught it, dropped it, but it 470 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: was almost a great diving play. 471 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: This kid's gonna be a star. If you're Craig Breslo, 472 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: sign them now. You're gonna save so many millions for 473 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: your team it's not even funny. But if you're a GM, 474 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: here's the message. You want to wait till they do it. 475 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: It's gonna cost you so much money that you're not 476 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 2: gonna save anything. 477 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 5: You gotta do it early. 478 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 3: I can't agree more. 479 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 4: I feel like we look around the same teams all 480 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 4: the time that wait and wait, and they get punished 481 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 4: for it. 482 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: JB. You're the man. 483 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us at resident GM. We'll be 484 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 4: here all season long. We'll catch you soon. Okay, it 485 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 4: sounds good. Thanks guys, appreciate you. The good news for 486 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 4: Boston fans is that Christian Campbell looks like the real deal, 487 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 4: and they're already chatting with him about an extension. It 488 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 4: makes sense to me, Cam imagine you're fresh up to 489 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 4: the show. He didn't know that he wouldn't have to 490 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 4: have a roommate. He was learning that the team had 491 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 4: a private plane. Right, You're like just kind of looking 492 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 4: around starry eyed, like, WHOA A year ago, I wasn't 493 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 4: even a top one hundred prospect and now everyone's talking 494 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 4: about me in one of the bigger markets. So Chris Catillo, 495 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 4: who does a great job for Mass Live he's joined 496 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 4: the show before, said Campbell and the Red Sox are 497 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 4: deep in talks on a contract extension. From the weekend 498 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 4: here said it's close. Nothing from the team. Campbell huddled 499 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: with officials before addressing reporters. He acknowledged things are heating up. 500 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 4: He said, they're talking back and forth. I know that 501 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 4: for a fact. I'm not sure how close or not 502 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 4: close it is, but we've had some communication on that 503 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 4: for sure. I leave that to my agents. Let them 504 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: talk back and forth and work out what. 505 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 3: Is going to be done. Well, listen for sure. 506 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I think this is going to get done, Cam, 507 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 4: because when you throw big money at someone who's been 508 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 4: in the league for five minutes and wasn't a big 509 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,239 Speaker 4: name a year ago, if Boston's a believer, you're going 510 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 4: to just inch a little bit over the comp that 511 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 4: gets thrown out there to get it done, and it's 512 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 4: not going to make any difference in the world. Right, 513 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 4: They're going to find a comp. They're going to say, 514 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 4: this guy is comparable to this guy. He's got a 515 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 4: few games into the bigs. Let's go a few million 516 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 4: bucks over, and we're going to get massive amounts of 517 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 4: surplus value if he becomes a star. 518 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 7: Oh well, one guy's opinion I value very highly is 519 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 7: Alex Korra. I've told you this guy, Alex Cora aj 520 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 7: hanch two of the smartest baseball minds that I've been around. 521 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 7: And we had a chance to sit down with Alex 522 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 7: Cora in spring training and I specifically asked him. 523 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 8: I said, Hey, nobody's talking about this guy. 524 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 7: Everybody's talking about Marcelo Meyer and all the other young 525 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 7: guys Roman athlete rightfully. 526 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 8: So I said, but what about Christian Campbell? 527 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 7: When I look at him, I said, he's got that 528 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 7: quirky game. 529 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 8: And I'm not saying he plays like one hundred pence. 530 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 7: But he's got some of those little quirky things that 531 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 7: you might not teach a guy. 532 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 8: But he gets the job done. He finds the barrel. 533 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 7: Like Jim Bowden said, he's a super athlete. He can 534 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 7: play all over the diamond. And Alex Corus smout from 535 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 7: ear to ear, raving about how special he was. And 536 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 7: he was one of the guys that they didn't talk about, 537 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 7: you know, as you talked about. 538 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 8: The Big three. 539 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 7: So to see where we are just a couple of 540 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 7: weeks later and see what he's done early in this season, 541 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 7: you know, it took me a whole year to take 542 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 7: a deep breath at the big league level, and this 543 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 7: is after having some stints up and down. But to 544 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 7: see him come in, I mean, just breathing, calmly, taking 545 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 7: it all in, not seeming overwhelmed. We're talking about facing 546 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 7: the Texas Rangers not too long ago to defending champs 547 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 7: just what two years ago. 548 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 8: I mean, he looked as comfortable as anybody I've seen. 549 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 7: And you talk about Ricky, the guy clearly has ice 550 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 7: water in his veins. So I'm happy for him, and 551 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 7: like Jim said, get him before he does it. And 552 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 7: that's what the Sucks are seemingly trying to do. 553 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 6: Absolutely, and he's homegrown. Red Sox championships have been built 554 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 6: on homegrown dudes different years. You sit there and you 555 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 6: go who is who has recently been coming up through 556 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 6: and this is what the fans, this is what the 557 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 6: Socks fans want. If you're not gonna go out and 558 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 6: get the big free agent signing, oh wait, you got Bregman, 559 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 6: Oh wait, you got Crochet. You traded for Crochet. Keep 560 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 6: bringing these guys up, but lock them in before they 561 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 6: cost you too much. And you have to have in 562 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 6: three or four years a Mookie Betts type of situation 563 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 6: that could have easily been saved, easily been taken care 564 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 6: of had you come to an agreement. It's probably gonna 565 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 6: be more than what you think somebody with no big 566 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 6: lead time should get. 567 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 8: But that's okay, give it to them. 568 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 7: It's seeing Michael Harris, do Michael Harris, even the Byron 569 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 7: Buckson do. 570 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 8: Just to be honest with you, like you think about. 571 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 7: That deal, you know, by how was the deal for 572 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 7: at the time when you looked at the mount that 573 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 7: barn Bucks and played. I think he took a deal 574 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 7: because he knew he stay hurt. You know, he's kind 575 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 7: of stayed injured. But I think, you know, I wouldn't 576 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 7: be I wouldn't be surprised if there was a seven year, 577 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 7: ten eleven million dollars, you know, a year deal. 578 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 579 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 4: And on the other side here the Rangers actually took 580 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 4: three out of four. A Dolice Garcia looks like he 581 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 4: could have a bounce back year, which would be a 582 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 4: scary thought for the opposition. Jacob de Gram looked solid 583 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 4: for that team. The Red Sox lost three of four. 584 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 4: We talked about it earlier, but Devers looks brutal right now, 585 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 4: This spat speed is slow, so physically it doesn't look 586 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 4: right either. But anyway, I mean it's one series. Red 587 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: Sox lost three out of four. They'll be okay, although 588 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 4: I think we some people got a little too hot 589 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 4: on how good the Red Sox are going to be, 590 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 4: you know, but we'll see. I think they're gonna be good. 591 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 4: Are they gonna be great? I don't know, but you right, 592 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 4: I think there's some people like, wait, did I say 593 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 4: Red Sox were went in the division I met Yankee. 594 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 3: Sorry, I confused it to you all the time. Sorry, 595 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: am I bad? Right? Hey, he wasn't the only one. 596 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 4: A lot of people were feeling the Red Sox, so 597 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 4: we'll see