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Speaker 1: It's the White Sox off season to do list, And

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Speaker 1: might be the last segment that Aj Perzinski does in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. He's heading out for a little bit. So, AJ,

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Speaker 2: Well, I can't wait to hear garfinkels. First of all,

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Speaker 2: there's three things that he's gonna give us. Second of all,

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Speaker 2: there's really only thing one thing they need to do. Chuck,

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Speaker 2: spend some damn money and get better players, not say

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Speaker 2: go out of the free agent margat and spend some money.

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Speaker 2: You can give your list, but until they start with that,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna say, find a starter, find a reliever, find

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Speaker 2: a bullpen, find a this, and find it out. But

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Speaker 2: you know what those all involve, Chuck spending some money.

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Speaker 2: So let's spend some money. White Sox fans, let's go.

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Speaker 2: It's not our money, it's uncle Jerry, so go Garfine.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for that introduction there, Aj, I appreciate it. You're

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Speaker 3: which means a lot. It's a badge of honor. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think they will be spending money. There will be

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Speaker 3: money that will be spent this offseason, but also the

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Speaker 3: Here's what the White Sox need, and we can then

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Speaker 3: break down break it all down starting pitching. They need innings.

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Speaker 3: They were last in the majors in innings pitched by

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Speaker 3: like eight different guys who got saves. There was Jordan Leisure,

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Speaker 3: those two things together, you lost a lot of one

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Speaker 3: run games. They were I believe fifteen and three thirty

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Speaker 3: They want to improve that. So if you improve the

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Speaker 3: And then they need a corner outfielder or two. Right now,

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Speaker 3: So I think those are the three main things the

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Speaker 5: Okay, so the Red Sox, I mean, the Life Socks

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Speaker 5: need pitching and hitters. That's a cool that's a cool

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Speaker 4: I like that. But let's go to the start.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to the start of.

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Speaker 5: Your first your first comment there about starting rotation, the

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Speaker 5: fact that they didn't have any innings. Is this something

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Speaker 5: that can actually be addressed because the organization, some of

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Speaker 5: their top starting pitching prospects don't throw past the fifth inning?

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Speaker 5: So is this something that they do actually even care

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Speaker 5: about if you're not even teaching the guys who you're

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Speaker 5: building up through your organization, which Chris Getz did, he

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Speaker 3: He set this.

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Speaker 5: Tone of well, nobody ever throws past five innings, so

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Speaker 5: we don't need you two in the minor leagues. Or

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Speaker 5: is this something that's like just going to magically appear

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, there was the reason why guys are

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Speaker 3: They were trying to save his arm. Same with Sean Burke,

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Speaker 2: Is that it jack check, That's what happened. Baseball happened,

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, Cluk, can I can I just say something

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Speaker 3: to all you doubters and all your critics about the

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Speaker 3: So I did interrupt you.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, because I'm a Figgers. I'm like one of

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Speaker 2: I'm one of the few people on national media that

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Speaker 6: The White Sox.

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Speaker 3: So continue, Okay, who uh scored more runs after the

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, I care who won the World Series? Chuck?

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Speaker 6: Who won the World Series? And who lost a Hunter game.

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Speaker 3: We were we were talking about the worst season in

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Speaker 3: exactly let's go to the World Series and win it. Okay,

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Speaker 3: And when I stay away, I say they I don't

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Speaker 3: the White Sox. No you do, Okay, White Sox, Dodgers, Tigers, Cubs.

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Speaker 6: Star it's the White Sox. We know, Chuck. Everyone knows

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Speaker 6: this answer because you post.

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Speaker 3: No, they don't know the answer.

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Speaker 2: Media, Yes they do because everyone follows you. Listen, who

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Speaker 2: great way to go. We have some cool young players,

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Speaker 2: But do you know how young players get better? You're

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Speaker 3: You can't have it.

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Speaker 2: If you want Shane Smith and you want all these

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Speaker 6: So who are some of the guys they can target

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Speaker 3: I got some names for you. I'm looking at innings.

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Speaker 3: They don't have a really well. Hagen Smith and Noah

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Speaker 3: How about Patrick Corbin? He threw one hundred and I

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Speaker 3: Zach Bove with the Royals. I think those are three

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Sure, Chuck, absolutely sure? I mean yes, yes, sign them all? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 5: I don't think sign I don't think signing them all.

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Speaker 5: I think what you asked for is the innings. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 5: I I that's what changes an organization. But I'm afraid

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Speaker 4: Okay, so hit the corner outfielders.

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Speaker 5: Hit the corner outfitters for this vaunted second half offense

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Speaker 5: becoming an organization that just plays year to year to year.

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Speaker 3: Oh, they're trying to build something. And the reason why

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking at corner outfielders who are available. I do.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think it was the best match. Austin Hayes.

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Speaker 3: What do you think about Austin Hayes. He can play left,

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Speaker 6: Chuck, Chuck, Chuck.

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Speaker 1: What.

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Speaker 3: I just have mutual respect and love and.

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Speaker 6: I mean I love you to death, I really do.

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Speaker 6: You're our Chuck.

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Speaker 2: I get all that, but it's like for me as

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Speaker 2: in the big boy waters at some point, man, like,

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Speaker 2: no offense to the guys you're naming, but gosh darn it,

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Speaker 2: Like I remember, Oh, we used to.

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Speaker 6: Talk about Tory Hunter and you know.

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Speaker 6: No again, no offense, but they're not in the same level.

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Speaker 3: Of Okay, So who should the White Sox sign?

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Speaker 2: Well, you asked me, and you go your exact question.

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Speaker 2: he went side with the Phillies. But you have to overpay,

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Speaker 2: and we all know the White Sox aren't gonna overpay, right.

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Speaker 2: So at some point it's just like we had Jim

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you look, and I hate this, it pains

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Speaker 2: me to death. You ask players, they've all been asked

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Speaker 2: So you got to do something to change the perception, Chuck,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know what that is. You got to win, right,

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Speaker 2: And I love the young players, TiO kiro. You keep

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Speaker 2: But every year that it goes by, you lose a

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Speaker 2: And if you ask Jim Bowden what he just said,

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Speaker 3: The guy I wanted hands down going into this free

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Speaker 3: a paid I mean to get him away from the Phillies.

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Speaker 3: What are we talking one hundred and eighty million dollars

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Speaker 3: And is that the right way to be spending your

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Speaker 6: I didn't like them. I didn't say't like them.

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Speaker 2: Why why are you giving Louise Robert twenty million dollars

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Speaker 6: Boom?

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Speaker 2: See you right, Let someone else have to make that decision.

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Speaker 2: Don't keep them and then you say we're gonna spend money,

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Speaker 2: and they're like, but we gave Louise Robert twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Right, Like, if you don't have Luise Robert Junior in

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Speaker 3: Like you.

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Speaker 2: Go find somebody for less than twenty million dollars from

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Speaker 2: what you're saying, from what you just said, then you

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Speaker 2: million dollars on your payroll. Right, Louise Robert can can

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's what you say. That's what I say. And

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Speaker 6: All trade them. Okay, if they all want to train

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Speaker 6: happened and trade them? They might, they might say, if

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Speaker 2: You haven't been able to get the best out of him,

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Speaker 2: and everyone doesn't want to be all he traded Luis

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Speaker 6: Now? Then you get you give him away and get

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Speaker 3: I was talking to Scott Boris at the winter meetings

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Speaker 3: Because the last two seasons have not been great for

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Speaker 1: I while you guys have been chatting, and I purposely

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Speaker 1: a playoff contender. That's adding maybe ten, ten twelve wins

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Speaker 1: Like one to eighty is not like a crazy number

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Speaker 1: I'm saying they've roomed to spend.

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Speaker 3: They I think I've got the year right. I think

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Speaker 3: White Sox lost a lot of money. You know, when

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Speaker 3: you have high payrolls and you have teams losing one

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Speaker 3: lost one hundred and twenty one games. They had, if

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Speaker 3: That's not good for the bottom line. And that is

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Speaker 3: I don't know for one hundred percent certain that's why

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Speaker 3: that's where the White Sox are right now. But it's

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Speaker 3: not as simple as you know, spend money, spend money,

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Speaker 3: fixed problem, fixed problem. I'd like to think it is

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Speaker 3: I'm not privy to the financials. I just look at wins, payroll, attendance,

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Speaker 3: and those three have not put the White Sox in

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Speaker 3: with the Phillies. For Kyle Schwarber, right, that's fair on Schober.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like where And I wouldn't have gone

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Speaker 1: Jason Worth? For the White Sox organization, it's certainly possible.

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Speaker 1: If they sign their Jason Worth this offseason for thirty

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Speaker 1: that's still less than the Twins.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think if the Socks start winning and more people

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Speaker 3: come to the ballpark, more money will be spent. I

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Speaker 3: mean that's I think it's just that's his business right there.

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Speaker 1: But no doubt, it's the reverse. That's the thing, right,

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Speaker 1: it's the reverse.

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Speaker 3: You can also spend money on the player, get more wins,

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Speaker 3: problem with a player like a Kyle Tucker, who obviously

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Speaker 3: I would love to have Kyle Tucker on the White Sox.

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Speaker 1: Don't block anyone, Chuck, Kyle can block anyone. I don't

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Speaker 1: This is just me trying to rationally speak to what

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Speaker 6: No, you're right, You're right. I I listen. I want

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Speaker 6: the White Sox to be good. I want to.

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Speaker 2: I want to people say I'm a White Sox fan,

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Speaker 2: and every question I get is why do they stink?

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's just and I have to defend them with.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they have all these prospects coming right, and I

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Speaker 3: Look and there's no guarantee they're going to turn out exactly.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, you know, all Mancata was supposed to

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Speaker 2: and I'm tired of it.

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Speaker 3: So sorry, Well, you know, listen, I mean I've been

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Speaker 3: Machado and Harper, but they beat out teams for Yasmani Grondal,

434
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Speaker 3: and they beat out teams for Undrew been attendee, and

435
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Speaker 3: they probably overpaid for both of those guys right to

436
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Speaker 3: get them. So they have spent in the past, in

437
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Speaker 3: the not so distant past. But you know, I look,

438
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Speaker 3: I am like you, ag. I look forward to the

439
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Speaker 3: days when they can compete for these top of the

440
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Speaker 3: line players. I mean, they used to do this. It'll

441
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Speaker 3: be in their future, I hope, but right now, from

442
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Speaker 3: what I've been told, they're not doing that. So this

443
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Speaker 3: is what I'm reporting and predicting for them to do

444
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Speaker 3: this offseason.

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Speaker 1: And Chuck, you're a good sport. And on the way

446
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Speaker 1: out here, I will say this and I mean this sincerely.

447
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Speaker 1: Best part right now of the White Sox and the

448
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Speaker 1: product that I watch is pre and post and it's

449
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Speaker 1: it's actually less a knock on the White Sox and

450
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Speaker 1: more how much I praise what you and Ozzie and

451
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Speaker 1: the crew do because it's freaking entertain It is not

452
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: easy to do that. I've called games when the teams

453
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 1: are not good, they stink and you need to entertain

454
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Speaker 1: People are still watching you and you're the soundtrack of

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Speaker 1: the summer. So we love what you guys do and

456
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Speaker 1: we appreciate that you guys have like the freedom to

457
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Speaker 1: just go wherever you want to go. Right the winding

458
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Speaker 1: road of Ozzy in on a postgame show is very entertaining.

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Speaker 1: So good to see you, man, and happy holidays.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks, I appreciate it. Always love coming on your show.

461
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Speaker 3: It's a great show. That's you guys have filled a

462
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Speaker 3: space that's needed and it is great to do that

463
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Speaker 3: show with Ozzy Gian. We love doing it and we're

464
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Speaker 3: just trying to give people some truth and some entertainment

465
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Speaker 3: and some baseball in there too.

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Speaker 1: You're doing it. You're keeping AJ like a little bit

467
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Speaker 1: on the rails after the games. So thank you, Chuck.

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Speaker 3: You're the man, all right, Happy holidays, have a great

469
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Speaker 3: vacation AJ. Talk to you guys later, fellas.

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Speaker 4: Yes, how we doing AJ? What the heck? Man? Way

471
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 4: to go, dude, And I'm still having to be Bronnie.

472
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Speaker 4: Come on, man, you can do you guys, let me

473
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Speaker 4: on your show. I love it.

474
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Speaker 6: Rex.

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Speaker 1: We're excited to see you man, And I don't know

476
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Speaker 1: if you heard my joke, but I was like, this

477
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Speaker 1: isn't the NBA. There's not some forty eight hour deadline.

478
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Speaker 1: I love it for the Royals, but they're doing everything

479
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Speaker 1: in five minutes here, So I mean, can you run

480
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Speaker 1: through the move analysis as quickly as they've been making

481
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Speaker 1: the moves?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? Look, this team is looking to win another World Series.

483
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Speaker 4: They're the last small market to do it. Why not

484
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Speaker 4: do it again eleven years later? They're close. They're making

485
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Speaker 4: a few nice adjustments now. I like what JJ Picolo's doing.

486
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Speaker 4: They're waiting for the big bat though. Okay, that's the thing.

487
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Speaker 4: They've acquired a couple of real nice outfielders. One's a

488
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Speaker 4: young guy wants a veteran in lane Thomas and the

489
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Speaker 4: young the young kid that we just got Isaac Collins.

490
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Speaker 4: They like him a lot for what he can do.

491
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Speaker 4: He's young, fourth in Rookie of the Year. Uh plays

492
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Speaker 4: plays mainly. They got him to play left field, but

493
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Speaker 4: he also had some reps at third base and second base.

494
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Speaker 4: So this is good. The Royals outfield for the last

495
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Speaker 4: two years fellas no production zero. It's been really tough.

496
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Speaker 4: Put a lot of pressure on the top four hitters.

497
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Speaker 4: You got a premium leadoff hitter in Garcia, one of

498
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Speaker 4: the best players in baseball, Junior Bobby Baseball, second place

499
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Speaker 4: hitter and the third spots pass Buentino. He's become a

500
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Speaker 4: guy now, Okay, Vinnie's the guy no more. Well, I

501
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Speaker 4: wonder what Vinnie can do. We know what he can do.

502
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Speaker 4: He's a run producer, he's a slugger. And they got

503
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Speaker 4: the captains and we signed for two more years. So

504
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Speaker 4: this Royals lineup is getting longer and longer. And that's

505
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Speaker 4: what you need to win a title. And they've done

506
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Speaker 4: it before. And like I said, JJ inherited the championship

507
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Speaker 4: pedigree and the DNA from Dayton Moore, so he has

508
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Speaker 4: an idea. He knows what they need. There's a couple

509
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Speaker 4: of knees out there for him still, but still the

510
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Speaker 4: outfield spot. Let's stay tuned. They're not done there.

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Speaker 5: You said they needed that big bat and they were

512
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Speaker 5: connected with Santa there. They didn't quite get it in

513
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Speaker 5: before the Blue Jays did last year. Now that you know,

514
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Speaker 5: you heard stuff like ta Oscar Hernandez, tell me if

515
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Speaker 5: I'm wrong, are the Royals willing to change their DNA

516
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Speaker 5: to get that big outfield back because that DNA is

517
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Speaker 5: you're gonna have to run around all of Kaufman and

518
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Speaker 5: you're gonna have to cover all that ground in our outfield?

519
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Speaker 5: Are they willing to change it and go, man, we

520
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Speaker 5: just got no production. I don't care if you can't

521
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Speaker 5: run around. We're gonna have Jack Kags out there, who's

522
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Speaker 5: kind of a bigger not like the big Royal outfield defense.

523
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Speaker 5: Are they willing to make that change to go for

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Speaker 5: that big outfield back that can't cover as much ground?

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Speaker 4: Mmmm? You know, I think they're willing to give up

526
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Speaker 4: a little bit of range in left field there for sure.

527
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Speaker 4: But you know tag le Own, they said that he

528
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Speaker 4: you know, he wouldn't be able to cover the ground

529
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Speaker 4: in Coffin Stadium. And that kid, he's a good athlete.

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Speaker 4: I watched him play the end, you know, his entire

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Speaker 4: year this year when he when he was at Kaufman

532
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Speaker 4: and on the road and he could play first base.

533
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Speaker 4: We know that he's a good first space went over there,

534
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Speaker 4: big target to throw to, but his range and his

535
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Speaker 4: first step quickness was impressive. So this kid, he's going

536
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Speaker 4: to be a part of their next championship. There's no

537
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Speaker 4: doubt about it. Now we'll see how he starts the season.

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Speaker 4: Whether whether they you know, depends on what they acquire

539
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Speaker 4: here the rest of the way down in this in

540
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Speaker 4: this offseason and up the spring, the CAGs will be

541
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Speaker 4: a big part of it. No one's dethrowned isbel Kyle

542
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Speaker 4: Isabel a centerfielder. He's good every year, makes all the

543
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Speaker 4: plays in centerfield, and you need that in our big ballpark.

544
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Speaker 4: So you know, they can get away with a with

545
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Speaker 4: a slugger in left field. I'm sure that'll that won't

546
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Speaker 4: be a problem. But this kid, Isaac Collins, he's going

547
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Speaker 4: to be a nice what if player? You know, what

548
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Speaker 4: if something happens in left field and they don't have

549
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Speaker 4: a guy, well he could he could put that down.

550
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Speaker 4: You know he had you know he he had nine

551
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Speaker 4: homers and fifty four ribbonies in one hundred and thirty games.

552
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Speaker 4: And he's just a young player. So this kid, he

553
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Speaker 4: changes scenery for him. Could be good, especially when he

554
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Speaker 4: gets around all those other sluggers. So i'd ask your ques,

555
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 4: Russian speed is going to be their game for sure.

556
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Speaker 4: They love to attack, they love to put the ball

557
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Speaker 4: in play. With this kid, Isaac Collins, he does that

558
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 4: as well. He doesn't swing and miss very much. He

559
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 4: puts the ball in play and that's a Royal signature.

560
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 4: And Cratsy, you were around when that happened. Man, they

561
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Speaker 4: pressure defenses with their speed, so I mean they'll be

562
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Speaker 4: willing to give up a little ground in the outfield,

563
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Speaker 4: but they're still not going to completely lose their DNA.

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Speaker 6: Well, there's another time about Duran coming over.

565
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Speaker 4: You're not going to lose anything with that kid, right,

566
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Speaker 4: you know.

567
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Speaker 6: You're fitting nicely, defense speed a little at all.

568
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Speaker 4: And I saw that JJ. These kids nowadays that come up, man,

569
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Speaker 4: it's amazing to see the skill level they have. This

570
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Speaker 4: kid's blazing fast. I mean he'll go first to third

571
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Speaker 4: in a heartbeat. That's the Royals trade attacking defenses, and

572
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 4: he fits everything that the Royals are and let's hope

573
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Speaker 4: that that works. You know, they can't get they want.

574
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Speaker 4: They want Reagan's, they want our number one. You can't

575
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Speaker 4: have him straight up, Ah, No, Reagan's is the number

576
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Speaker 4: one starter in the postseason. You can't give up that

577
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Speaker 4: guy for him. They're gonna have to package it up

578
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 4: a couple other guys. We got plenty of starting pitching

579
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Speaker 4: for people, but this kid. I like him. I like

580
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 4: his mindset. He attacks, he's aggressive, he swings the bats

581
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Speaker 4: from the left side, and that's what they need. Another

582
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 4: left handed bat in there to go with Salvi, Salvi

583
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Speaker 4: and Junior and Garcia, those are all right handed bats.

584
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Speaker 4: Put him in there in the middle of past Buentino.

585
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 4: That that lines up, you know, linked that line up

586
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Speaker 4: a little bit there, and to go along with that

587
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 4: in the pen to win. Are you kidding? They just

588
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: picked up They just picked up this kid that they

589
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 4: got from from the Brewers. They like him. Uh. And

590
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: then so now you're you're you're messy, You're you're talking

591
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 4: about bringing in another right handed pitcher for Lucas Ersak,

592
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 4: who throws hard. He's a mid nineties, upper nineties pitcher.

593
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 4: And then you know Carlos Estevez who led the world

594
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Speaker 4: in safs last year. So if a bullpen ca if

595
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Speaker 4: they can find any resemblance to the pin they had

596
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Speaker 4: eleven years ago. Look, I like the Royals chances this

597
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 4: year in their own division. And further is there.

598
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Speaker 5: Is there a place where this team needs to take

599
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 5: away from that starting pitching. Like you said, Cole Reagans,

600
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 5: you can't get rid of Cole Reagan's I get it.

601
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 5: He had a hurt year last year, but he almost

602
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 5: had one hundred strikeouts in sixty innings, Like you can't.

603
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Speaker 5: Can they take away more of the starting pitching? And

604
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Speaker 5: I asked that because last year they gave Brady Singer

605
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Speaker 5: to the Reds for Jonathan India and Jonathan India was

606
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Speaker 5: on the bench and it didn't work out. Are they

607
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 5: afraid of that happening again because they took away thirty

608
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 5: two starts? Brady Singer wasn't a cy young candidate last year.

609
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 5: I get it, but thirty two starts at thirty two starts?

610
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Speaker 5: Like when you take that out of a rotation? Are

611
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 5: they willing to do that again because it didn't work

612
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 5: out with the India trade from last year?

613
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Speaker 4: Yes? They are? Are you kidding? Time is close with

614
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: the Royals wanting to build a new ballpark in a

615
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 4: few more years. This is the time where you win,

616
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Speaker 4: you start drawing your fan base and start getting them

617
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 4: excited again. And they already are. We've had two winning

618
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 4: seasons in a row, which is which is big for

619
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Speaker 4: Kansas City, but they already are. They want to win

620
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 4: as they're moving into this new ballpark and they're close.

621
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Speaker 4: Why not you have to give up something to get

622
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Speaker 4: me something. So yeah, they've got plenty of pitching. They've

623
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Speaker 4: got ten or eleven starters to draw from. I don't

624
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Speaker 4: know if they'll draw from the older guys, you know,

625
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 4: like Lugo walk of that. You know, those guys are

626
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 4: already established, and they're probably looking for some of the

627
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: younger guys like Camera Cameron, who was brilliant last year,

628
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 4: left handed that could throw strikes. You know, they've got

629
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 4: a few options. So India didn't scare them away obviously,

630
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 4: because they've gave him another year. This year, they re

631
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: signed him, so you know they have faith that he'll

632
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 4: come back and have a bounce back season. But to

633
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Speaker 4: answer that question, no, you don't win unless you give up.

634
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Speaker 4: You got to give up something to get something.

635
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Speaker 2: All right, in the new stadium gets done as long

636
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: as Frank White doesn't vote against it. But we don't

637
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Speaker 2: have time to get into that whole thing, all right, No, No,

638
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: we don't have We don't have time. We don't have

639
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: time to dig into that. That was a whole different story.

640
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Speaker 2: But I want to know about Zurpa. I know they

641
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: gave up Zerpa, but what was so great about him?

642
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: Because the Brewers gave up two pretty good players for

643
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: this guy that's lefty out of the bullpen.

644
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 6: What does he do and what are the Royals losing

645
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 6: in him? Because he got him back two good players.

646
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Speaker 4: Rick means Is is a pitcher that the Royals have

647
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 4: been eyeballing for two or three years now when he

648
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 4: was with the Rockies. This kid, he's twenty nine years old.

649
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 4: He has above average fastball. He's gonna fit right in there.

650
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 4: Like I said with Ursag and Essebez at the end

651
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: of their bullpen. But you know they they needed a

652
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 4: left hander, they say, I mean the Royals, dude, jj

653
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 4: I just talked to him today. He said, Hudd, we'd

654
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 4: like a left handed reliever. I know, we just gave

655
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: one Zurpa. You know he had a hard time against

656
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Speaker 4: Ridy's last year, and you know that's what you want.

657
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 4: I left you to be able to get out the rightings.

658
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 4: I mean they can. They have a pretty good edge

659
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 4: on the lefties anyway because of the left on left

660
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 4: and breaking balls moving away from him. But they're gonna

661
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: have The Royals don't have to have to add in

662
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 4: a lieftenans A bullpen guy down the road. He's strong

663
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 4: and he's young. He throws hard. But you know, obviously

664
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 4: the Brewers liked him. You know, somebody sees something in

665
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 4: a player that's in that organization that's they're willing to

666
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 4: make a move. But I'm with you, uh aj. I

667
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 4: mean Nick, Nick Mirs this kid that they just got

668
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 4: and the Isaac. Those are two real nice pieces to

669
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Speaker 4: their championship puzzle. So yeah, we say thank you to

670
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 4: the Brewers. But look, trades are made for both teams.

671
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Speaker 6: One.

672
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 4: You're not trying to beat another team in a trade.

673
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 4: You don't do that. That's not that's not good business.

674
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 4: You know, you're you're always hopeful that both both ends

675
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 4: work out, and let's hope that that it does in

676
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 4: this case here, But the Royals will take the two

677
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 4: guys that got for Zura.

678
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Speaker 1: You're a TV guy, Rex, I know you're like a

679
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: fancy little graphic. So last portion of the conversation here,

680
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: I want you to do a little shopping for us.

681
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: I know they've been doing a ton of bit already

682
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: for you, but kind of hinted to what you'd like

683
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: to see here. If you want to throw a name

684
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: out there, that's fine. If not, that's okay too, but

685
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: just kind of finish the puzzle for Kansas City. I mean,

686
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: we saw our guy Ken Rosenthal part of this show

687
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: put out, hey, they're going to trade for an outfit

688
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: or they're going to sign when they did that in

689
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: five minutes. So what do you thinks next or what

690
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: would you like to see if it was up to you.

691
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 4: Well, AJ hit the nail on the head. We need

692
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 4: an action player. Okay, the kid Dron's got, he got

693
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 4: power to besides the speed. I like the speed. His

694
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 4: defense is a little shaky, and that's not normally a

695
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 4: Royals trade. We always have gold. And speaking of gold,

696
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 4: a left side of the infield in the major leagues

697
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 4: with two gold glovers call the cops. Garcia was nails.

698
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 4: He made plays over there that would make Brooks Robinson

699
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 4: who in awe? I mean to tell you he's got

700
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: a great arm, a great arm and his range. He's

701
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 4: a shortstop. So you got two short stops on the

702
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: left side of the infield, and you've got a few

703
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 4: left handed starters. Had a lot of ground balls on

704
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 4: that left side. You know what that equates to outs?

705
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 4: That's all you're looking for outs no matter how you

706
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 4: get him. Now, we got some strikeout guys in that

707
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 4: waste of the pitch counts. But man, I like guys.

708
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 4: I like action pitchers who get those outs early. They

709
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 4: stay in the game longer and get you the pin

710
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 4: to win. Watch it, it's gonna happen. Isbell and center

711
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 4: feels awesome. Michael Matthew won a gold Glove in the

712
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 4: Minor League three years ago. He's he's shaking some injury

713
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 4: bugs and now he's a solid left handed bat. He

714
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 4: looks really good. And then Passquatch has been the most

715
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 4: improved for his baseman I've ever seen. And when I

716
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 4: was a player, I played next to gold Man. You

717
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 4: know JT. Snow won six or seven. Donnie Maddingly played,

718
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 4: you know he won what eight or nine? I mean?

719
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 4: So the infield and a gold bluff first basement caliber,

720
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 4: that's important. Pass Batch is a big target, so that

721
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 4: whole infield is close to gold. Salvador Perez behind the plate.

722
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 4: He may be thirty six years old, he can't tell it.

723
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 4: He's the hardest working player in the game. He shows

724
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 4: up early, working on his blocks. He's all He's asking

725
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 4: the coaches this guy's a Hall of Famer, a future

726
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 4: he's already a five time Gold Glover. He's asking them,

727
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 4: how can I get better work with me? I'm important

728
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 4: to our pitching staff. So with the attitude and the

729
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: world championship pedigree of Salvador Perez, that infield might be

730
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 4: the best in field in baseball. I like it.

731
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us a little bit. Let's finish with this

732
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: about how things changed for MIKEL. Garcia this past season.

733
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he was good two years ago, and you

734
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: know this, The game has changed, right. You can project

735
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: a little bit differently nowadays based on some metrics and

736
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: peripherals that you see, and it doesn't always pan out

737
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: that way, Rex, But when it does, like what you

738
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: just saw from rec from MIKEL. Garcia this past season,

739
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: and you use a stat like wins above replacement, he

740
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: was top fifteen among position players, right, the stat which

741
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: gets skewed per organization. They've got their own version of it, somedo.

742
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: The stats said top fifteen position players. So what did

743
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: it look like and what changed?

744
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 4: Confidence? He had a he had a rough year the

745
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 4: year before. Okay, he uh, they put him in the

746
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 4: leadoff spot, they put him second, They tried to play well. Actually,

747
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 4: juniors always had the second spot, but he's he didn't

748
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 4: work out in the top of the order. They put

749
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 4: him down, you know, he just he just didn't have

750
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 4: any confidence. He had a lot of ground balls and

751
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 4: he to the full side, so he it wasn't the

752
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 4: player he was the year before that. So this year

753
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 4: he comes in and they he goes off right away.

754
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 4: They put him at the top of the order, and

755
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,959
Speaker 4: then they moved him down some down in the ninth hole.

756
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: But he just said, it's my turn. I know I

757
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 4: can play up here. I know I can hit up here.

758
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 4: He understands that he'd love to play shortstop, everybody would,

759
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 4: but Bobby Wood Junior's got that spot lockdown. So he

760
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 4: went over to third base and said, I'm just going

761
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: to play third base like I do shortstop. Everything to

762
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 4: my left is not getting through, and you got Bobby

763
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 4: WIT's range over there is shortstop, hardly anything, and you

764
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 4: got to hit it hard to get it through that infield, Junior,

765
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 4: I mean, Garcia coming in on plays little numbers, little bunts.

766
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 4: Nobody really buns on him, but they hit those toppers.

767
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 4: He comes in bare headed and makes that play. Is

768
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 4: good or better than anyone I've ever seen. Tim Wallach

769
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 4: pretty good third basement in my day. He's better than

770
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 4: Eli coming in on that. It's because of his arm.

771
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: That's one side he wins you games on defense. Now,

772
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 4: his bat is a level bat you love that stays

773
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 4: in the in the zone a long time, and he

774
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 4: goes line to line. You can't read him. You can't

775
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 4: play in one particular way straight up for he and Bobby,

776
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 4: and that's how that's a beautiful duo tandem team. Also,

777
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 4: I credit the Royal Spur extendon Garcia, but he gained

778
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 4: his confidence back and he became a guy too. So

779
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 4: you have Vinnie Paspentino became a guy, Garcia became a guy.

780
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 4: Junior is already a guy, and we're looking for a

781
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 4: guy in left field and we have a guy behind

782
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 4: the plate. So I don't think I can brag anymore.

783
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 4: And we've never had starting pitching going into the offseason

784
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 4: like this in my fourteen years here. And the bullpen's

785
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 4: pretty much set as well, So it's exciting fans this offseason.

786
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 4: When I go to Costco, I loved talking to the fans.

787
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 4: They're like, oh, are you excited? What a question. We

788
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 4: got a chance to go all the way again, but look,

789
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 4: it's a long season. We know that. An injuries, you know,

790
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 4: that's a big part of the game. No one knows that.

791
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 4: That's why when they give you a call and they go, well,

792
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 4: who do you think is gonna win this year? Baseball

793
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 4: is impossible to call. You can't predict the game. I

794
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 4: remember in fourteen they won, They went all the way

795
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 4: to the World Series. They were picked to finish last,

796
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 4: and they went all the way and lost in Game

797
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: seven to freaking Bumgarner. Guy comes out of the bullpen

798
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 4: after shutting down the Royal as a day before or

799
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 4: two days before, and he throws four and he's really,

800
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 4: they would have won that one. And then next year

801
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 4: in fifteen, all the great minds of the game of baseball,

802
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 4: the experts, they predicted the Royals would finished last again,

803
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 4: and what do they do? They went back to back.

804
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 4: This time they won the World Series. You can't predict baseball.

805
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 4: It's on paper. You could look at it and go, wow,

806
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 4: this should be but nobody can because the round ball

807
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 4: in the round bat dictate what's gonna happen, and you

808
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 4: no one never knows nothing. So it's exciting. We are excited. AJ.

809
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 4: What do you think about that?

810
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: Anally, that's a promo cut right there.

811
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 4: AJ, you know what I'm talking about.

812
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but wait, everybody, Dodgers are gonna win every game, Rex,

813
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: and you know one can be the Yankees. And but

814
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: like the sport is ruined and the Chiefs missed the playoffs,

815
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: so they need a good team in Kansas City. I know, boo,

816
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 2: all the Swifties are out there going, we can't watch

817
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: trailer's boyfriend play anymore, right, so boo hoo for Kansas City.

818
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, let me just share you fourteen and fifteen. Hey, look,

819
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 4: that were last small market team to do that, that's

820
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 4: for sure. But that started it, and then we look

821
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 4: what happened the next ten years. The Chiefs won the

822
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: whole decade, believe it. Look, you can't stay on top forever.

823
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 4: Pretty nice run, though, you guys will have to say,

824
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 4: the homes got hurt. First time in ten years. The

825
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 4: best quarterback got hurt. So yeah, they're they're dude to

826
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 4: start coming home a little bit. They got us spanking

827
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 4: in last year's Super Bowl and that started it. But

828
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 4: look there, Kansas City is the championship city. There's no

829
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: question about it. So it's the Royals turn to get

830
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: back up on top again. You watch it. If barring

831
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 4: any bad and he major injuries, it could happen because

832
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 4: sal Man. But Salvi, he wants another title before he

833
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: goes into the sunset and then accepts his Hall of

834
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: Fame in five years. He wants another one to give

835
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 4: to the Royals fans. There's not a more dedicated young

836
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: man than Salvado Bress. He's he carries the team on

837
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 4: his back. This guy is an incredible human being. He

838
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 4: loves his fan base. He goes out of the way

839
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 4: for the fan base. You know, you guys saw where

840
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 4: he played. He pulled over one time, saw these kids

841
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: playing whiffleball and he joined him in the backyard. Made

842
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 4: their lives. This the guy is amazing. So you know

843
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: it's this Kansas city. They should be feared, and I'm

844
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 4: sure they will. They will.

845
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: Hey, that's why we called you first call the day,

846
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: Rex Odler, You're the man bringing the energy to waking

847
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: us up on a Monday. We love your Rex, great.

848
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 4: Your beautiful man. A j oh my gosh, I was

849
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: broadcasting season in your world championship year.

850
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 6: That was the rax year old. You're so old you

851
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 6: broadcast my debut. I think.

852
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 4: I might have Hey, but I gotta I gotta tell

853
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 4: you that Noah Cameron real quick reminds us all of Burley.

854
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 6: Mm hmmmm quickness.

855
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: No getting the ball and throwing it. Just just just.

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Speaker 6: Let's just let's take a step back.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's let's let's see.

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Speaker 6: Let's let's yeah, let's the biggest step back.

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Speaker 1: If he takes off Rex, we'll bring you back and

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Speaker 1: we'll do We'll do fifteen minutes on him.

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Speaker 4: Okay, deal, Thank you guys. Have a great day Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Yes, good to see the great Rex O.