1 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Jeff Passing just dropped a huge article about the offseason. 2 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: The New York Mets were mentioned fifteen times, and there 3 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: is some crazy stuff in there. We've got a list 4 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: of players that are looking to be possibly on the move. 5 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: We got some Code I Sanga news, we got Pete 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: Alonzo news, Edwin Diaz, Kyle Tucker news with the Mets. 7 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: There's so much to cover in this Jeff Passon article 8 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: about the New York Mets. 9 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: It's great, a lot of good stuff here. We're excited 10 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: to do it. 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Should? 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: We just start at the first mention of the Mets 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: and we can even go through every single mention for 22 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: the Mets. Just like Mark just said, Mets are mentioned 23 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: fifteen times. Only team mentioned more with the Dodgers at seventeen. 24 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: The Yankees really mentioned nine for comparison because he's ain't 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: doing shit this offseason. 26 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: This is a Mets heavy article. 27 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: I think the biggest takeaway is that there could be 28 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 3: a lot of player movement on this team. 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 30 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: One of the like exact lines that Jeff Passon put 31 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: in this article is the Mets are blowing up plenty, 32 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: which is a crazy sentence. And I think when a 33 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: lot of Mets fans probably hear that they could be 34 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: theoretically blowing it up, it's probably like Siren Syen Sirens 35 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: Chief David Stearns at it again, operating like Milwaukee, We're 36 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: gonna cut payroll. 37 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: We're gonna cut payroll. I don't think that's the case. 38 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: I think it's more about that this core that we've 39 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: had here for better part of six seven years now 40 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: hasn't won anything, hasn't reached sustainable success. Maybe it's time 41 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: to start looking at some new pieces, bring in some 42 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: fresh faces, getting some different players in here. And that 43 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: in this article kind of says that. So let's start 44 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: off with the first mention, which is about Kyle Schwarber 45 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: funny enough and the New York Mets that the Mets 46 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: are interested in Kyle Schwarber, and that passes like if 47 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: they were to steal him away from the Phillies, it 48 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: would be just a straight up coup. 49 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: And I think that's another relevant thing about this. Mets 50 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: are mentioned with every single big free agent, so you know, 51 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: some of that's of course, like Jeff Passi been like, 52 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 3: oh the Mets, the Mets, the Mets, you never know 53 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: about the Mets. But also I think some of these 54 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: maybe there would have to be a lot of shedding 55 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 3: of players to actually make something has happen, because the 56 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: second mentionine is that don't count the Mets or Yankees 57 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: out for Kyle Tucker. And that's the fact you can 58 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: hear the Mets be connected to both of those guys 59 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 3: one cool, Two don't really buy it. Three A lot 60 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: of the roster has to change to acquiesce these very 61 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: good hitters coming onto it. Yeah, I would be shocked 62 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: if we actually had any chance at Kyle Tucker. What 63 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: makes us have a chance of having the most money 64 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: in baseball obviously with Steve Cohen. But at the same time, 65 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: this is kind of like what the Dodgers have done 66 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: in the past is like get a good player We'll 67 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: find a spot for him. 68 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: We don't worry about how the roster looks right now. 69 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: We'll figure that out. Go get the best guy available. 70 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: And while Kyle Tucker is not want Soto, he's not 71 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: one of those top ten, top fifteen players. He's a 72 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: damn good baseball player, top twenty, probably top twenty five 73 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: in the game, has the ability to get even better 74 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: still in his physical prime. I would love to have 75 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker on this team. It also then bears needing 76 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: to move Brandon Nimmo, who was also mentioned this article 77 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: as a guy that the Mets are definitely looking to 78 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: trade this offseason. 79 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: That's a big part of it too. Let's just skip 80 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: to the trade section. Yeah, all the way. 81 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we'll wind up getting to every single fifteen 82 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: mentions of the Mets in this article here by Jeff Passon. 83 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: But there's an interesting part about trades all the way 84 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: at the end of this piece. All the way, after 85 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: all the free agents, and after a whole thing about 86 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: Tarrek Scuegle, and then this is the exact line that 87 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: mark Luther two before the Mets are blowing up plenty. 88 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: It's not just Louis helm Kunio or Mark Fiantros or 89 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: Brett Bathy centerfielder brand Nemo, which is funny, he's big 90 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: a centerfielder who has a full no trade protection U 91 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: till the man Jeff McNeil could also be had. So 92 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: I think it's an an understanding right now of the 93 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: fact that, like we talked about during the season, a 94 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: lot the edges of this roster are not really that 95 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: malleable right now. It's a very strange roster configuration for 96 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: the Mets. Lots of slow corner guys, no defensive positions, 97 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: no lacking athleticism, similar thing as slow. But I'll say 98 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: it again just so reiterate it. I don't think David 99 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: Sears wants that in one of his teams. I think 100 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: that kind of shown through last year. He said over 101 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: and over again with the defense, just kind of shed 102 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: any kind of weight and then see how we can 103 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: fit new players in to be different archetypes but similar roles. 104 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: And similarly, in this article, any of the guys that 105 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: have been mentioned as possible movers or guys that are 106 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: not a part of this team are either not a 107 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: lady at their position or they're not David Sterns guys 108 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: guys that were in this organization before he ever was 109 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: a part of it. And while we like Brandon Nimo, 110 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: we think Jeff mcgeil can be a valuable player this 111 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: year with the injury stuff is a little weird. But 112 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: at the same time, like you mentioned James, they're older players, 113 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: They're getting older, They're not going to get any more 114 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: athletic than they've already been, and the athleticism has already 115 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: taken a complete decline with both of those guys being 116 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: Nemo and Jeff McNeil. So it's one of those where 117 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: I think, if the right move is available, and we've 118 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: kind of mentioned this all off season long, the Mets 119 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: should and probably will be aggressive to try and move them. 120 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: The biggest kicker here though, is with Neimo that full 121 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: no trade clause. If he just wants to be a 122 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: New York Met for the rest of his life, which 123 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: he very well might, there's a good chance it doesn't 124 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: matter what the. 125 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: Offer that we get back, as brand Nemo say is here. 126 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: No, it's also part of the two where I think 127 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 3: that similar to players that we just mentioned that are 128 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: available and Kyle Tucker and Kyle Schwolbert, the Kyles because 129 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: getting guy like Brandon Nemo off the roster, who while 130 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: Nimmo isn't a bad player, we've never said that Nimo 131 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: is still a good player. 132 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: He's a good player, Yes, and Nimo. 133 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: There's probably a lot more you can do with the 134 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: corner outfield spot than Brandon Nimo, given the types of 135 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: players that come available every single winter. And we signed 136 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: brand Nemo to that long contract. There was the hope 137 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: and expectation that he had more years in center field. Honestly, 138 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: it seemed like he could have had like a nice 139 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: four or five year run, probably even able to play 140 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 3: there last year. 141 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: But the way his athleticism has declined. 142 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: The way like we've talked about every episode, like you said, 143 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: Mark moves like a ten man like, it's just kinda 144 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 3: who is this point? I want to ask you about 145 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 3: the inclusion of Brett Baidy list because some of this 146 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: reads like Jeff Passon casting a very wide net for 147 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: a lot of these teams. We'll talk more about some 148 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: of those rumors as we get through it more, but 149 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: I'm curious about Baby being lumped in with the cooniar 150 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: Vientos and just Baby being a trade candidate. 151 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: Otherwise I'll say two things. 152 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: One, I think that this is a classic like if 153 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: this is one hundred percent true, right that Baty is available, 154 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: it feels like the reason being is if you're going 155 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: to go get an elite, elite player, like if you 156 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: were going to get Terry Scooble, maybe you're able to 157 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: move Brett Batty in a lower prospect that still has 158 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: some hype, rather than moving on from some of your 159 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: top prospects. So maybe that's part of the enticing part 160 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: here for the mes to consider Brett Batty being available, 161 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't really make the most sense to me for him, 162 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: like those other guys, there's there's clear reasons why they 163 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: would be available. Brett Batty would be maybe cashing in 164 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: on what could be the highest his value could be 165 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: right now, That's where I see that. But also at 166 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: the same time, not trying to take a shot at 167 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: passing here. But because those guys have been so synonymous 168 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: with each other over the last couple of seasons coming 169 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: up together, it feels like it's just like one of 170 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: those guys could be on the move. There's not a 171 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: spot for all of them, so one of them could 172 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: be traded totally. 173 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: I do think a lot of times, especially Passing is 174 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: the biggest national baseball rid around right now. I think 175 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: you write these articles to cast the wide nets of 176 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 3: anyone reading, and you'll try to get any name recognized, 177 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 3: like the fact that in the in the Bobouschette section 178 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: the Mets were mentioned and Passing set specifically. You know, 179 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: the Mets aren't ready to move on from Francisco Indorge 180 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: short side, Like, of course you know that wouldn't know 181 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: that for certain, but they could improve at a second 182 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: or third base, you know. 183 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just he's still written for ESPN people. 184 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: Totally keeping those mentions out there. And that's nothing against passion, 185 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: but it's about the most of the clients. 186 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: Are reading this. 187 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: That's what we're gonna try and pick and choose the 188 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: nuggets that we think are the juiciest and make the 189 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: most sense with everything else that we've heard be said. 190 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, that's why it's so important, like 191 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: to have nationalizers that are good. One because he did 192 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: an incredible job with the article. But two, that's why 193 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: it's really cool when you have these beat writers and 194 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: that's why it's so important to the sport of baseball 195 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: or Mets Up podcast or all these different type of 196 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: content apps news because you can get a little more 197 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: dense where if Jeff Passon was to dive in specifically 198 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: on every little niche intricacy of every team, he'd have 199 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: a forty five to fifty. 200 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: Page article and no one would ever read that. 201 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: And it's also nice that we know last week because 202 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: the GM meetings, we know Jeff Passon was there. We 203 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: know that a few days after that he has all 204 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: the time to compile thirty teams worth of rumors for 205 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: every single big free agent. 206 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: So it's cool to have a big thing like this and. 207 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: Just to push back, not push back on, but to 208 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: go with what you said before you trade Brett Baty 209 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: four in the lead piece. Brett Baty is a good 210 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 3: high end starting baseball player in this league right now. 211 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 3: He's going to be ten to fifteen percent better in 212 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 3: the league average with the bat plus defender multiple positions. 213 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: Is a two to three win player one hundred percent, 214 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 3: who's a chance to be a four to five win 215 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 3: player if things click anymore. He is a legit, legit, 216 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: legit piece. If he does move, you're getting something very 217 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 3: legit back. 218 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: The other problem with including Brett Batty in that is, 219 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: then we now have a hole at third base, So 220 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: you fill you lose all you'd make a hold of 221 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: to gain a hole or to fill a hole, whatever 222 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: that's going to be. And in terms of the available 223 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: third baseman, the best one is Alex Bregman, and I 224 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: don't really know if the Mets would be willing to 225 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: pay the Alex Bragman price. So who would play third 226 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: base if you got rid of Brett Bay Because we 227 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: know it's not Mark Viento's. 228 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: I was going to say, I think that this might 229 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: be a teeny tiny bit of a hint that the 230 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: Mets might be more interested actually in Bregman than we think. 231 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: I think that I think that another link to him 232 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 3: last offseason, right, they were linked to him last offseason. 233 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: And he kind of. 234 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 3: Fits the bill of a lot of what we say 235 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: this team lacks and needs. This defense plays very good defense. 236 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: He does make a lot of contact, not necessarily that 237 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: we want that or don't want that. He is a 238 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: contact first bat. I don't know if his power will 239 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: playing in city field. But going back and looking at 240 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 3: Bregman's career, I know we always and everyone always goes 241 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: about the thing that bregmanc cant hit on the road, 242 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 3: who was always had. 243 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: A nice home ballparks. 244 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: It's got pretty even home road splits for his career, 245 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: which I was shocked to see. And I think this 246 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: year he actually was better on the road than he 247 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: was at Fenway Park. Weirdly enough, even though that stadium 248 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: feels so much more friendly for his game, where like 249 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: the home run numbers are still the same. If he 250 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: played all his games in the City Field last he'd 251 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: still have eighteen. I just can't conceptualize him being any 252 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: sort of power threat like Brett Baty just hits more 253 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: home runs probably every single year at Cityfield. He actually 254 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 3: probably does. Think Brett bay does hit more home runs 255 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: next years. But for Bregman's career at home, two sixty eight, 256 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: three sixty seven, four to seventy slug that's an eight 257 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: thirty seven ops. On the road two seventy seven, three 258 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: sixty three four ninety eight fifty three ops. 259 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: Now, the funny thing about this is to mention Brett Baidy. 260 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: There was no mention of Alex Bregman and the Mets 261 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: in this article. 262 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah that was the one thing, Yeah, one thing. 263 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: But also like Bregman does have that your kind of 264 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: fiery attitude. He has the leadership qualities, a good mentor 265 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: young players. He's winner defense like he does a lot 266 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: of those things that we say, like in this nebulous 267 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: of things that we think the Mets might seek this offseason, 268 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: but he actually does provide them, not saying that that 269 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: is any way connected related because A getting his article. 270 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 3: He didn't even link the Mets to bragmant. But if 271 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: you were the trade baity, you have to have a 272 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: plan at third base. 273 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 4: AJ, We're going to do things a little bit differently here. 274 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 4: I am wearing the perfect gene and I remember seeing 275 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: ads for the perfect gene, like most comfortable fit ever, 276 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 4: perfect fit on your body, and I was like, I'm 277 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 4: not buying it. Now I'm buying it, and we're showing 278 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 4: it off on FT. 279 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 5: Please please get off my desk. First of all, Scott, 280 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 5: Second of all, I was with you. 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He 300 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: is extremely available and multiple executives expect him to be 301 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: traded this winter as the Mets look to overhaul their rotation, 302 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: which we know the Mets needed to improve a rotation 303 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: we have a lot of As we've mentioned, threes through 304 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: fives don't have a lot of frontline guys. We thought 305 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: Code I Sanga could be a frontline guy last year 306 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: was weird that all the comments he was making, the 307 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: injuries that he's constantly having. It's just it feels like 308 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 1: the relationship is fractured right now. And again, Code I 309 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: Sanga not a David Sterns guy. It feels like he's 310 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: gonna be traded this offseason for sure. 311 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: Also might not be a Justin Willard guy as a 312 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: pitching coach that preaches strikes. And there was a team 313 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: in the Red Sox last year who were kind of 314 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: against the grain of the splither revolution that happened across baseball, 315 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: didn't throw nearly as many as most other teams in 316 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: the league. It was a forth ball, not exactly splither, 317 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: but a similar behaving pitch to a splither. 318 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: It just seems like it's not It seems. 319 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: Like it's a relationship that may have fractured beyond belief 320 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 3: based on the way that last year went, especially the 321 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: weirdness in spring training that we knew about. 322 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: Held us before anybody would ever talking about it. 323 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: It was like the Mets don't really trust Coda Sang 324 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: and he seems to be just not really not not 325 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 3: that he was playing games, but that it seemed like 326 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: they weren't ready to rely on him as much as 327 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: maybe the outside perspective was considering him to be reliedbo. 328 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: It felt like there was no cohesion between the two, 329 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: like what the Mets expected of Coda and what code 330 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: I expected. 331 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: The Mets were not on the same page. 332 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: And you wonder about the way he was rushed back 333 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 3: for the playoffs in twenty twenty four, and you wonder 334 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: about just getting lit up in that Dodger series and 335 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: kind of being left on the mound as a mop 336 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: up guy. 337 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, You never know. 338 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 3: You think if you have a season that's taken away 339 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: by injury, you come back for the postseason. You should 340 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: go into the offseason right to go for next year. 341 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: And he missed half of spring training. 342 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 2: It's just the whole thing. The whole thing seemed very weird. 343 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: The way he talks about is it's the way he 344 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: talks is kind of weird sometimes like it's I don't know. 345 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: It seems like they're very willing to move on from 346 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: him at this point, Yeah, it does. 347 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: Those are the big names though mentioned for trade rumors. 348 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: Again, I think the one that I'm not buying the 349 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: most is Brett Baity All the other guys though, I 350 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: totally think especially because like I don't know the way 351 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: that pass and also talked about third base for the 352 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: Mets in this article two, He's like, there's they can 353 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: improve at third. I'm like, yes, they can. But also, 354 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: like Brett Baty was, he's still had a really good year. 355 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: I think that's a classic. Like again, National Baseball, if 356 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: you're not watching all the Mets games understanding the arc 357 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: of Brett Baty season, you could miss what it actually. 358 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: Was, which was a really good year. Like that was 359 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: a legitimate breakout. I feel like for Baby Yeah, I 360 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: think so too, and on both sides of the ball. 361 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: But also maybe it's the idea. And again this will 362 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: go against some of the things the Mets are talking about. 363 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: If there's a significant upgrade available there and you I 364 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: think they trust Bailey enough to play second, and his 365 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: bat suddenly becomes much more valuable second, the glove becomes 366 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: much less value. This goes against what the kinds of 367 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: thing the Mets are talking about now, Like it's again, 368 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: I think that the big takeaway from this article is 369 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: that a lot can happen. I think damn that will. Yeah, 370 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: I think that is a very open mind right now. 371 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: I think we're going to have a lot of possible 372 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: goodbyes departures from this ball club that've been there the 373 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: last few years. I think another really interesting section of 374 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: this as it pertains to the Mets was a closer 375 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: section for YEP. 376 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: That was the most because they because they mentioned Alonzo 377 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: and passings like the Mets wan Alonzo back like he's 378 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: gonna get had a lot of money. 379 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: The Mets want him back, and. 380 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: I think that after the Josh Naylor contract, like we 381 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: said in the last episode, we gave you guys, it 382 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: was kind of good for seemingly not Alonzo's kind of 383 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: good for the Mets or teams negotiating because it was 384 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: it was five years for a player younger than Planzo, 385 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 3: who is much worse than Planzo. Some people were arguing 386 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: that Josh Naylor is even or I don't. 387 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: Pe Alonso's worst year was still Josh Naylor's best year. 388 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: That's what I keep going back to. It was the 389 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: same thing with Christian Walker last year. His best year 390 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: is offensively the same as plans was worst years offensively. 391 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: The defense. 392 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: I will give you guys the defense, but war sometimes 393 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: the calculation first base in DH types doesn't exactly hit 394 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: the mark for me because I think their defensive value 395 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: is lower than other positions on the field, even with 396 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: the positional what's what's the words, the positional positional adjustment. Yeah, 397 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: with the positional adjustment they give it. And I think 398 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: for the Homers hitting forty homers, yeah. 399 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: And I also feel like for Peter Alonzo, like a 400 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: huge part of his horrible defense, like stop trying to 401 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: get every single ground ball, just stay at first but 402 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: chill out, relax and throwing, which. 403 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: We just got to get maybe just getspring training. Put 404 00:15:58,800 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: them back at third base so we could kind of 405 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: figure out what I think they get back into the 406 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 3: college minds. But I think that it seems like there's 407 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: also there was reports about the Red Sox yesterday that 408 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: they want Alonzo or Bregman, which while their fans got 409 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: mad about so it's all. 410 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: Right, do you take him back? We take him back 411 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,119 Speaker 2: to this seems. 412 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: Let's take cands. You guys get Bregman, We'll keep Alonzo. 413 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: I'm cool with that. Before I guess we do the 414 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: closer things that we've got in this tangent. There were 415 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: a couple other teams that pass in linked to Alonzo, 416 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: some of them being teams like the Reds, who I 417 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: would again just be shocked if they were actually involved 418 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: in this, but you know, maybe they will be. They 419 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,479 Speaker 3: were start to talk about the Pirates spending money. 420 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, like at the price like that piece wants that 421 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: would that would be insane if those two organizations spend 422 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: the money on Pete when they don't spend it. 423 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: On other players. 424 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: But again, like taking the Mets hat off for a second, like, 425 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: good for those teams they want to spend money, just 426 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: don't just don't spend it on Pete A Lonzo of course. 427 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, like they the Reds should be like how much 428 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: money do you want Elie de la Cruz and Hunter 429 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: Green to continue to be here for the rest of 430 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: your time? 431 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: And yeah if he mentioned They also mentioned the Mets 432 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: connected to Murakami, which I thought was interesting. 433 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: Because Stern's kind of put the quash on that. It 434 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: felt like the other day I thought, kind of, I 435 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: thought the door may have actually been left open. I 436 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: do think that I rerot the big profile when you're 437 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: talking to Murakami from NBC Sports World, the World. 438 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: I'll put that in the comments somewhere. You guys wanna 439 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: check that out. 440 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: But I think that his market might be much more 441 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 3: suppressed than a lot of people think, especially because he 442 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: has the shine. I mean that people called him the 443 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: Japanese Babe Ruth. 444 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: I actually I think we because I was I did 445 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: a video the other day from my channel where like 446 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: I was doing like my hot takes, and a lot 447 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: of them were that Murakami sucks, and I was like, 448 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: I think we're now flipping too much to way too far, 449 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: too far, because it's like he still hits the ball 450 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: exceptionally hard and he's twenty six, Like there's room for development. 451 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: When he gets here. 452 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: It's probably not gonna be come over five there you 453 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: go even more, it's still not going to be like, 454 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: come over and hit forty home runs his rookie season 455 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: and be a perennial power hitter immediately. But in a 456 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: couple of seasons, I think he could be very good. 457 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: And we saw that not the same player, but just 458 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: the Japanese to MLB move, like Seyo Suzuki was like 459 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: a one fifteen WRC plus guys first year and since 460 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: then he's been like one thirties. Like there's an adjustment 461 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: period for every player that comes over. 462 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: There's also been a zone contact metric about Murakami that's 463 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 3: been really taken and people. 464 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: Are like, this is the reason he can't be successful. 465 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: To seventy three point four percent in zone contact rate 466 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 3: in Japan, which would have been the lowest among all 467 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 3: qualified players in Major Baseball last year, but someone went 468 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: back and grabbed Otani's from his last year in Japan 469 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 3: and it was like seventy four and a half percent. Yeah, 470 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 3: so very similar swing for the fences have the gaudy power. 471 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: Las Sprazowski put a great video out about this as well, 472 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 3: like there's a lot of interesting stuff about Murakami right 473 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 3: now where I do agree with you, and also part 474 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: this is my fault. I put out a staty get 475 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: about Markami. 476 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: Back guy there, you are a little bit of a 477 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: perpetrator here. I'm one hundred percent to blame for this. 478 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: One went hyper file got three million impressions that he 479 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 3: had an own ninety five batting average against fastballs over 480 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 3: ninety three. 481 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: It was only twenty one batted balls. Was it was 482 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: a meaningless that. 483 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 1: I also wonder what it does for one of these 484 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: guys too, where they know they're gonna get posted the 485 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: next year and it's opened. I'm just gonna try and 486 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: ball out on every single pitch and show you what 487 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: the ceiling could look like. 488 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 3: Well, I think maybe that happened to Murakami, but in 489 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 3: like a multi year thing. I was expecting we could 490 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 3: do a whole video of Murakami, am I, and we'll 491 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 3: talk about a little more than But yeah, just give 492 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 3: give him one more thing here. Because Murkamy had the 493 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 3: fifty six home run season in twenty twenty two. It 494 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 3: was the second best in MPB history, only behind the 495 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: great Vladimir Balance Team sixty legend. 496 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: The goat but legend, Yeah, just play for Netherlands A 497 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: get this upcoming year. 498 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: That year, Murakami the twenty one percent strike out rate 499 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: thirty two percent with thirteen percent of swinging strike The 500 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: strikeout rate league average and MPB hovers around nineteen twenty 501 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 3: percent every year, So that year he had average strikeouts 502 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: slightly about average, swinging and miss with the greatest power 503 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: of the league's ever seen. Since then, the strikeout rate's 504 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: gone to thirty percent, with rates up around over thirty 505 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 3: five percent, the swing strike rate last year's over seventeen percent, 506 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 3: and players are swinging miss that much in the major leagues. 507 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: It's like it's mostly a horrific list of Alexandra Canario, 508 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: Jose Cieri, Joey Gallo, Zach Geloff, that kind of crew, 509 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 3: but then also Rothheld Devers and Nick Kurtz. 510 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like there there there is. 511 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: An avenue from Murakami based on how hard he hits 512 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 3: the ball and how much he lifts it. But it's 513 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: going to be interesting figure out if he can actually 514 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: get to that. 515 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about that Daz stuff, because again, 516 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: I also thought that was the next most interesting thing 517 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: mentioned here, because it seems like the Mets want him back, 518 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: but as Paston says, not maybe back as much as 519 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: other players. 520 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that was the exact line he used. 521 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 3: The Mets want Diaz back, but they might let him 522 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 3: as want they might not want him as much as 523 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: other teams or players. So it seems like Diaz is 524 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: on the Mets list, but he's not the top of 525 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 3: the Mets list. 526 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: It feels like Alonzo was the top of the list. 527 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: Dia is on the list. 528 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: And also Passon reiter rated that the five for one 529 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: hundred and two million dollar deal edwin Diaz as people 530 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: have said, he wants his offseas and so much when 531 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: he signed three years ago not going to happen. So 532 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 3: the ceiling is going to be four for eighty. That's 533 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: much more palatable. 534 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: I think. 535 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: I think the five year deal, like we said to 536 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: you guys, I think anyone in the league was ever 537 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 3: going to sign that, And. 538 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: If they did, that's like, Yo, Edwin, good for you, 539 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: get your bag, congratulations, like wish we could have had you. 540 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: But I can't be mad at you for leaving. 541 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: And then what's gonna make Mets fans sick to their 542 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: stomach certains not me? 543 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 2: Is the next paragraph. 544 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: New York is in on Devin Williams, and that's one 545 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: that you've been talking about a lot, James, and I 546 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: thought there was a lot of really cool stuff just 547 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: in general. 548 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: Today that came out about Devin Williams. 549 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: Mike Petriello dropped an article about Devin Williams season and 550 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: how kind of two faced it was. While he had 551 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 1: like a six ra and at points looked like one 552 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: of the worst relievers in baseball. When he had inherited 553 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: runners they didn't score, he still struck out thirty five 554 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: percent of the guys the whiff rate was crazy high. 555 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: And part of the reason his was so high is 556 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: that every single time he ever left the game with 557 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: runners on the Yankees bullpen just let them score like 558 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: it was nothing. 559 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: And I would you wonder about a guy like Devin 560 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 3: Williams if for his whole career And this is kind 561 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 3: of funny not bringing to David Stern stuff back into it. 562 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: He had the best defense in the league behind him. Yeah, 563 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden you had the Yankee team 564 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 3: last year who did not have the best defense in 565 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 3: the league. So these kind of tiny little things we 566 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 3: know Devin Williams how to say is eloquently mentally, Sometimes 567 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: Devin Williams is not. Yeah, sometimes he's not the most 568 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 3: you know, a little Stephen Matts in the mount. 569 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 2: Sometimes you tell me the. 570 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: Guy who punched the wall after the game and the 571 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: middle of the season is not rational. 572 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: He can sulk. 573 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: Sometimes you worry about the guy like Devin Williams, where 574 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 3: you know, if Antony Volpi boots a ball behind him, 575 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, how focus is he in 576 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 3: the next three pitches and. 577 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: Has no clue out to play left field? Ball goes 578 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: over his head on a routine one you'd be like, hey, dude, 579 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 2: fuck you, what the hell? 580 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: But he's gonna be great in center field, of course, 581 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: But also passing goes on to say Williams has two 582 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: there's from coast to coast. So I think that's an 583 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 3: allusion to the Dodgers, because I think everyone knows that's 584 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 3: a really likely thing too. But the Mets are muddling 585 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: the opportunity to sign Diaz and Williams to head up 586 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 3: a bullpen in need of a total restructure. I think 587 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: that's cool and another thing that you guys probably will 588 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 3: like it. 589 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 2: I love it too. Is one of my favorite lines. 590 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: I'm happy about this, but I know next June, I'm 591 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 3: gonna be like motherfucker. One closer who won't be returning 592 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: to the Mets is Ryan Helsley that was implosure in 593 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 3: New York after the trade deadline. Hasn't injured this market 594 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: all right again, Ryan, the best to you. 595 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: I know you're a good guy. 596 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 3: Wherever you go. Hope you find success. Just it will 597 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 3: never be here. 598 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: No, his time with the New York Mets is definitely over. Yeah, 599 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: and then after that really just kind of mentioned them 600 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: with Scooble. 601 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 2: That was it. 602 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: Letting think about Schooble, like, if this is actually possible, 603 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: it's the Mets. I think Pat Passion basically made that clear, 604 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: like if he becomes available, the Mets will be first 605 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: in line with a big ticket in their hands, ready 606 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: to go, big tray package and largest contract ever for 607 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: a picture and the moments notice. 608 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And he mentioned also that h an unnamed reporter's 609 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: rumors about being hundreds of million dollars away from each 610 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: other with Scooble, it's not one hundred percent true. 611 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 2: He's like, the Tigers aren't going to. 612 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: Give him an extension that makes him the highest paid 613 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: picture of all time he goes. But also it's not 614 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: as far apart as it was being reported, but that 615 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: if they move him, they're gonna get a decent haul back. 616 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: I love report the Wars this time of year. It's 617 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: amazing to watch these guys go at each other, and 618 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: there was they got to those guys on. 619 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: There's got to be someone's got to get those guys 620 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: on to just scream and yell at each other. 621 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 2: We know that Haym and. 622 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: The unbelievable or whatever he did the one time he 623 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 3: was on the radio. I think it was last year 624 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: about so about who is this Steve Summers or who 625 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 3: was someone? 626 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: Actually I think it was actually our second favorite guy 627 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: on the radio. Oh really yeah, I think kmp ah, 628 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, that actually was exactly what it was. 629 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: He hard Yeah, yeah, tip the cap credit words too, 630 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 3: and just some other notes here that could. 631 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: Be somewhat relevant for the Mets from this. 632 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 3: They said that seems worried about Brainger Suarez for long 633 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 3: term contract, which I guess that makes total sense considering 634 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 3: the Gutters ninety. 635 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: Poo and has thrown one hundred and fifty innings like 636 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: most in his career. 637 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, Zach Wheeler's contract for the Phillies is a similar 638 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: conference that what teams expect zax Ceese to get Zach 639 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 3: Ski who don't see christ zax Cy's O god, this 640 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 3: is the first tame doing in the morning. 641 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: C J. 642 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: Abrams and Mackenzie Gore were both very available. I don't 643 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: know how much of those exactly play into the Mets, 644 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: but I think it's interesting that those that's probably going 645 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: to happen, Joe Ryan or Pablo Lopez will be traded, 646 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 3: likely not both, and Louis Robert still very available. 647 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, very very. 648 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: Much available, and the Mets seem to be again interested 649 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: in basically anyone, that is everyone. They are looking to 650 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: make this roster look different than last year. So I 651 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: know people won't believe until they see it, and that's fine, 652 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: that's cool. But just when it does happen, remember that 653 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 1: that was David Searns making those moves, because no one 654 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: wants to give him credit for anything. 655 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: And remember also, if the team looks different from last 656 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 3: year and people like I can't believe they don't have 657 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 3: this guy or that guy in the team anymore, we 658 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 3: stink we're so much worse. Just remember two years ago, 659 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: how bad it felt going into that season, how good 660 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 3: that season wound up. 661 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: Like fosset of all. Gotta be a team. We didn't 662 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: make the playoffs last year. Yeah, big changes needed. 663 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I'm honestly, I'm really okay if the team 664 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: doesn't look like it did twenty twenty five. Twenty twenty 665 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: five sucked. That was one of the worst Mets seasons 666 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: of recent memory. 667 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: Just Mets fans. 668 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: This offseason, I think we all it's gonna be a 669 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 3: task for all of us be open minded, because I 670 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 3: think that's how this organizations entering. 671 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: Mets fans have always been known as open minded individuals. 672 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 3: Yes, open minded, very willing to take in new informations 673 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: and come back out with it like it's all gonna 674 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 3: be very fun off season for us. 675 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: But that's pretty much it. 676 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: We wanted to come to you guys with a little 677 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: quick thing from Jeff Passing best reporter in the game. 678 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys enjoyed it. Whenever we get updates, we'll 679 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: be dropping new episodes, so make sure you are subscribed 680 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: to Mets Up, not just on YouTube, but also if 681 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: you want to listen to the audio version Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 682 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: Google Context. The YouTube video is gonna come out earlier 683 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: than the audio for this one because it's just We're 684 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: not dropping an audio at like five pm. 685 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen. 686 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: You'll get it tomorrow morning if you want to listen, 687 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: but if not, subscribe to the YouTube channel. You can 688 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: follow James on social media at James Chiano No I'm 689 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: draftneckmark with the c Thank you guys for watching, Thank 690 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: you for listening. 691 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: We'll catch you on the next one. Peace out. That 692 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 2: guys's go Metes