Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. The NFL machine doesn't stop
Speaker 1: damn right. Welcome to another edition to the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hans. That comes to
Speaker 1: you from a virtual room filled with some heroes. Greg Rosenthal,
Speaker 1: Reggie It's there, Dependable, the Iron Horse they call him,
Speaker 1: uh and joining us on a very special cutdown edition,
Speaker 1: unplanned initially edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. And
Speaker 1: back our old friend the Pipe, Nick Shook Shookie getting
Speaker 1: some get pump in before before he speaks his first words,
Speaker 1: I like the sound of those weights. Those are some
Speaker 1: old school waits. That's the type of gym I prefer, though,
Speaker 1: the old Like legitimate metal plates, none, none of this
Speaker 1: rubber casing. Nothing that protects people. There's no handles on
Speaker 1: the weights. You can pinch and potentially sever a finger
Speaker 1: or at least get a blood blister, you know, the real,
Speaker 1: the gritty stuff. We did you work out in the
Speaker 1: Browns facility? And were there players who either were threatened
Speaker 1: by you or kind of wanted to show you, like hey,
Speaker 1: Brown's reporter, like you're not so tough, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? As the legend goes, they used to allow
Speaker 1: employees to work in work out in the same gym,
Speaker 1: and then I guess somebody had taken food from the
Speaker 1: cafeteria and like left it out and made a mess
Speaker 1: and just left it there. So they ended up when
Speaker 1: the Haslems came in, they built a separate employee gym
Speaker 1: that is literally right next to the team's weight room
Speaker 1: and attached to the field house. So technically no um,
Speaker 1: but I was right next door and I did, um,
Speaker 1: you know, get some activity on the indoor field houses
Speaker 1: field and they weren't intimidated, but they liked to point
Speaker 1: it out a lot. Actually kind of say, I bet
Speaker 1: they brought it up a lot. I bet Freddie Kitchens
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, let's get this guy at blocking tight end.
Speaker 1: Let's see if you moves for this guy. It basically
Speaker 1: like was the opener for a lot of my conversations
Speaker 1: I had with players and got to know some of
Speaker 1: the guys. So I guess it was advantageous in that regard,
Speaker 1: But ultimately, yeah, it's funny more than anything since and
Speaker 1: by the way, I think we have a lead there,
Speaker 1: Greg with how how did Shook come to leave the
Speaker 1: Browns very quickly? Maybe Shook left at Apple Cores next
Speaker 1: to the bench press or something. But you know Mark's
Speaker 1: not here. Obviously he's getting better right now. Um, but
Speaker 1: remember a couple of weeks ago, we had that discussion
Speaker 1: about one and done head coaches and uh, we're going
Speaker 1: down the list, and we ended up missing Freddie Kitchens,
Speaker 1: who's the most recent one and done coach. And you
Speaker 1: know Cessler, you know Sessler knew it, and he just
Speaker 1: didn't bring it up. He just didn't want to bring
Speaker 1: some of those those spirits, the spirit of Freddie Kitchen.
Speaker 1: So when whenever Mark comes back, is that to look
Speaker 1: forward to it, we'll have to bring that up with him,
Speaker 1: because I mean, the integrity of the podcast has to
Speaker 1: stand above fan leanings. Ultimately, I gotta get Freddy Kitchens
Speaker 1: some credit to because even though he wasn't a very
Speaker 1: good coach and it's really disorganized more than anything, awesome guy,
Speaker 1: great guy to spend a few hours at a hotel
Speaker 1: bar on a road trip with. Although to be you know,
Speaker 1: to to close that circle, Steve Wilkes, I think it's
Speaker 1: still the answer, or no way, it was Freddie Kitchens
Speaker 1: after that. Yeah, Steve was on Freddie's staff. Oh Stevie
Speaker 1: alright anyway, So yes, we were last with you on Monday,
Speaker 1: and we said we'd be back Thursday. And then I
Speaker 1: think Greg and I separately, maybe even at the same time, Greg,
Speaker 1: like et style, realized, oh wait a second, Wait a second,
Speaker 1: Tuesday's got down Day. They changed it the schedule a
Speaker 1: little different. Now it's not that labor day weekend. It
Speaker 1: is now in the middle of the week. Uh So
Speaker 1: here it is the old school Bunker Cast, and we're
Speaker 1: just gonna quickly shoot through the news everything that's happened
Speaker 1: over the last uh twelve hours or so. So great. Hey,
Speaker 1: Grave Digger, how are you doing, buddy? Big performance? I
Speaker 1: thought on the Monday show a lot of buzz about
Speaker 1: Grave Digger and Erica on a tropical vacation right now
Speaker 1: in the middle of our season. Uh. Did you get
Speaker 1: any feedback, whether internally or outside the building about your performance? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I got a couple of people on Twitter who were
Speaker 1: excited to hear me on this show. That was cool,
Speaker 1: not necessarily expected. My parents crowd, I love it. The
Speaker 1: revolution is here with Justin Graver the Grave Digger. Let's
Speaker 1: hit the news. Five tawn red eyed Muster ready to
Speaker 1: crush its gray. It's tiger inspiring to make a star
Speaker 1: of motor sports. And now all you need justin to
Speaker 1: do do now is isolate the grave digger vocal there
Speaker 1: and there you go. There's the drop we talked about
Speaker 1: from earlier. Perfect this week. Alright, good, all right, let's
Speaker 1: get into it. Oh that tricky Bill Belichick. Uh, he
Speaker 1: makes a move nobody saw coming. Release ing. The Patriots
Speaker 1: released Cam Newton, their quarterback, the starter that they resigned
Speaker 1: in the off season. Then they drafted mac Jones, of course,
Speaker 1: in the first round, and the two players are trading
Speaker 1: first team reps and going through the whole process through
Speaker 1: the summer. But at the end of the day, Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick decides the future is now. Mac Jones will begin
Speaker 1: the season as the starter QB one and Cam Newton
Speaker 1: almost unbelievably, only a handful of years removed from being
Speaker 1: m v P in the league and one of the
Speaker 1: great dual threat quarterbacks the league has ever seen. On
Speaker 1: the eve of Week one, he is out of work. Greg.
Speaker 1: When you saw this pop up on your phone or wherever,
Speaker 1: uh were you shocked? Take me through it as a
Speaker 1: Pats fan, I mean I had mixed feelings. I was
Speaker 1: surprised he's not on the team. I I'm not I
Speaker 1: wasn't that surprised that mac Jones is the starter because
Speaker 1: I've been believing in Tom Curran, who watched them every
Speaker 1: day and thought it was decisive in practice, and then
Speaker 1: I watched the preseason it's you know, it's one of
Speaker 1: the best rookie quarterback preseins I've ever seen. PFF has
Speaker 1: it as the best rookie quarterback they've ever you know, graded.
Speaker 1: So that part of it, where mac Jwan's wins the job,
Speaker 1: doesn't shock me. But the fact that Brian Hoyer is
Speaker 1: now one snap away does a little bit. You know,
Speaker 1: that's Brian Hoyer is still in that building. Isn't he
Speaker 1: like fifty years old at this point? Like honestly, listen,
Speaker 1: shook another nice bald guy out of Cleveland, But come on,
Speaker 1: can we calm down a little bit? Yeah? I was
Speaker 1: gonna say that's inn a front to bald people everywhere,
Speaker 1: and especially in northeast Ohio natives who are bald, But
Speaker 1: go ahead, maybe, yeah, And I think I think it
Speaker 1: does fit though, don't you think, Greg, Like, if if
Speaker 1: you have to go from mac Jones to somebody else,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you prefer to go to I know the skill.
Speaker 1: I don't think I have to do with it. I
Speaker 1: think I'm it's just guessing. I would you know, we're
Speaker 1: taping this so soon after my guesses either it was
Speaker 1: mutual or that Cam Newton gave that you know, hey,
Speaker 1: do you want us to cut you now? Um, And
Speaker 1: that Cam Newton would rather go back up Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: maybe Russell Wilson. But I kind of expect Cam Newton
Speaker 1: to be on the Cowboys because it just makes too
Speaker 1: much sense for for everyone. Um. Then he really wants
Speaker 1: to go back up a rookie quarterback, and that Belichick
Speaker 1: also might have the feeling that I've been gassing this
Speaker 1: guy up as one of the great leaders you know,
Speaker 1: I've ever been around. He's got a lot of people
Speaker 1: who love him on this team that I don't think
Speaker 1: Cam Newton is gonna be a problem, but that it's
Speaker 1: it's almost a mixed message here. If this guy is
Speaker 1: our backup and he has so many people who who
Speaker 1: kind of follow him, let's make let's make a clean
Speaker 1: break of it. And oh, by the way, you know
Speaker 1: he's not vaccinated, So all right, now, let's let's hit that.
Speaker 1: I was going to hit that a little later. But
Speaker 1: since you brought it up. Bill Belichick as a man,
Speaker 1: as we know who, he's maturial. He's someone who doesn't
Speaker 1: buy into excuses. He's a man who will send you
Speaker 1: home if you're late for a practice during a blizzard outside.
Speaker 1: He's done it. That's this type of stuff, Bill does.
Speaker 1: Do you think it is at all? Can we connect
Speaker 1: the dots here that in the middle of this heated
Speaker 1: battle for the job, Cam disappears with the excused absence
Speaker 1: tied to the coronavirus mix up that Bill Belichick could
Speaker 1: have said, you know what, that's the straw that breaks
Speaker 1: the Camel's back. I'm moving on. I don't put it
Speaker 1: past them, just gonna say it. I mean they've run
Speaker 1: into the situation a year ago. I mean they had
Speaker 1: to go to Brian Hoyer in a key early game
Speaker 1: that kind of started a slide. Why would they put
Speaker 1: themselves in a position where they could potentially deal with that? Again?
Speaker 1: Is the backup in that proposed scenario. Let's say Cam
Speaker 1: is your starter and the backup is back. Is he
Speaker 1: better than Brian Hoyer? Yeah? But ultimately you're still facing
Speaker 1: the possibility of losing one or multiple quarterbacks in the
Speaker 1: regular season. Why run through that exercise again for me once?
Speaker 1: Shame on me, you know, so on and so forth.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that has undoubtedly has something to
Speaker 1: do with it. Even if you could say, well, everything
Speaker 1: else they Greg just said, which I totally agree with,
Speaker 1: it's got to play a fact more about Jones's play,
Speaker 1: Like that's the starting point. Like the note, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: happen unless Jones didn't exceed some expectations, didn't play great
Speaker 1: in camp, didn't play great in the preseason. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely possible Dan that that was kind
Speaker 1: of the thing that put it over the top, because
Speaker 1: it also gave mac Jones a number of snaps in
Speaker 1: those joint practices, which Belichick takes very seriously, always says
Speaker 1: that's as important or more important than the preseason game.
Speaker 1: Everyone said that Mac Jones had the best day of
Speaker 1: his entire UH training camp against the Giants in that
Speaker 1: second day of the of the first day of their
Speaker 1: joint practices, that he just lit it up. And then
Speaker 1: you look at like the way they were playing time
Speaker 1: in the in the games, like Mac Jones played a lot,
Speaker 1: he didn't play a lot with the starters, but he
Speaker 1: played a lot and they got to look at him
Speaker 1: a lot. And if it's that close, and if mac
Speaker 1: Jones was better in practice for the most part, you
Speaker 1: know it does it does make sense that the part
Speaker 1: just as a fan that that bugs me as you
Speaker 1: had one of the best backup quarterbacks in the league,
Speaker 1: whether it was mac Jones or or Cam Newton, and
Speaker 1: now you have one of the worst. So I've heard
Speaker 1: some buzz that's like, well, they're actually higher on Jared
Speaker 1: Stidham than they used to be, and he's going to
Speaker 1: recover from this back. He's I think he's going to
Speaker 1: I are either short term I R or P P
Speaker 1: A P less we haven't heard yet, and because he's
Speaker 1: coming off of back surgery too, but that he'll be
Speaker 1: back at some point and he'll be the backup. But
Speaker 1: the Patriots are better with Cam Newton and mac Jones
Speaker 1: on the roster. I think everybody can agree with that.
Speaker 1: So there's more to it, and it I think goes
Speaker 1: back to chemistry and what they want and how they
Speaker 1: want this kid to go into his rookie season in
Speaker 1: terms of not having a look over his shoulder. And
Speaker 1: I get that. So you might be like a leader, right.
Speaker 1: I mean it had and I think Cam might have
Speaker 1: might have wanted it to, which makes sense to meet it, right.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean Cam is like a cancer or
Speaker 1: anything like that. I think it was more just like,
Speaker 1: al right, we really do believe in this kid, and
Speaker 1: even if it ends up hurting us this year, if
Speaker 1: by leaving us a little vulnerable behind him, if he
Speaker 1: gets hurt, in the long run, it will help his development.
Speaker 1: So I think that's probably where it is. And ESPN
Speaker 1: is boarding of the Cowboys, will quote begin exploring free
Speaker 1: agent Cam Newton, And it's funny because he must have known.
Speaker 1: He must have known. Yeah, like hard knocks Um this season,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it because it's airing again tonight
Speaker 1: and I have to do the recap. I was thinking
Speaker 1: of mixing it up a little bit and just writing
Speaker 1: about Here are some like real life football takeaways from
Speaker 1: the episode so far, and their backup quarterback situation has
Speaker 1: just been horrendous throughout the Cooper Rush. It's Cooper Rush.
Speaker 1: They thought it was gonna be Gilbert or Denucci two
Speaker 1: or three weeks ago, and Cooper Rush is the one
Speaker 1: that's still on the roster right now. They cut the
Speaker 1: other two. The one other team. By the way, the
Speaker 1: biggest bummer with that is Cooper Rush had a great
Speaker 1: chance to actually prove something in that battle, which he
Speaker 1: took the lead the week prior. In this past week,
Speaker 1: you know, granted he's playing with the backups against a
Speaker 1: lot of Jacksonville starters. He was uh. I wouldn't say terrible.
Speaker 1: It was he didn't even register a blip on anybody's radar.
Speaker 1: It makes too much sense for everyone put put Cam
Speaker 1: Newton in there. If that misses some games, you're you're flying.
Speaker 1: I also wonder if to see how would I would
Speaker 1: think about it, because it's like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: Cameron want to back up Russell Wilson for some reason,
Speaker 1: but it's like, you know they could. I love Geno
Speaker 1: and all, but that that situation could be upgraded for
Speaker 1: There's also another a f C East team, Greg that
Speaker 1: needs a backup quarterback with experience. And how about the
Speaker 1: playbook about learning more about that Patriots operation, the Robert
Speaker 1: Solid defense. That would bother me. I've had mixed feeling
Speaker 1: because it's like that would that would really bother me?
Speaker 1: I said mid season I wanted Cam to be the
Speaker 1: starter and for them to roll because I've always been
Speaker 1: a Cam fan and it would just shut up all
Speaker 1: these Patriots fans who who hated Cam. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember my team slogan for real real ones
Speaker 1: can go back and listen, but yeah, that's you. You
Speaker 1: can feel that today in Boston. I can't tell you
Speaker 1: how like overly excited everyone is, um, but I had
Speaker 1: a similar slogan. It was mac Jones Cohen. Now that's
Speaker 1: more like it. Speaking of the Patriots, uh more, big
Speaker 1: news around that team, they have placed their all pro
Speaker 1: cornerback Stephon Gilmour, the former Defensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 1: on the reserve pup list. Uh and he that means
Speaker 1: he's out the first six weeks of the regular season.
Speaker 1: It's connected to a quad injury that's been an issue
Speaker 1: for him since last year. And um, obviously, losing Gilmore
Speaker 1: for any period of time's gonna hurt Bill Belichick's defense.
Speaker 1: But I I wonder this shook. How much does the
Speaker 1: injury tie into the ugly contract situation and vice versa? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, because you know, if he's gonna be back
Speaker 1: in supposedly three weeks, pup gives him a little bit
Speaker 1: more of a buffer to potentially get back fully healthy.
Speaker 1: But you have to also wonder if this is kind
Speaker 1: of the response to, you know, the whole I'm unhappy
Speaker 1: with my contract. You either want more money or I
Speaker 1: want a long term deal. I think it works out
Speaker 1: for Gilmore because at least it helps him ensure that
Speaker 1: he's healthy and kind of avoid the risk of a
Speaker 1: re injury. Still, get your right, there's there's gotta be
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some sort of factor in that. The
Speaker 1: fact that they have not been on the same page
Speaker 1: for this entire summer and he didn't participate in any
Speaker 1: of camping. Isn't gonna be able to play for you know,
Speaker 1: the first month plus. Well, he's getting paid, but he's
Speaker 1: not getting that raised that we thought he might get,
Speaker 1: at least not yet with that wouldn't wouldn't shock me.
Speaker 1: Torn quad is one of the worst injuries a football
Speaker 1: player can have. Um not many have it, and sometimes
Speaker 1: it's really hard to come back from. So that's been
Speaker 1: a little under the radar. He did have surgery on
Speaker 1: that after the season, and that's that's a brutal injury.
Speaker 1: But you know, putting him on the pup less feels
Speaker 1: like like kind of kicking the cam. Like, if you're
Speaker 1: Stephan Gilmore, you don't want to risk coming back too
Speaker 1: early if they're not going to pay you. And and
Speaker 1: I have asked a round about this, and it's both
Speaker 1: sides seem like they think it's a game of chicken.
Speaker 1: Like Gilmore doesn't want to go on the field unless
Speaker 1: he gets his money, and the Pages don't. They would
Speaker 1: consider giving him some money, but they don't want to
Speaker 1: do it until they see him on the field. And
Speaker 1: even if like putting yourself in Gilmore's shoes, if he's
Speaker 1: if he's just disenfranchised and he feels like he's going
Speaker 1: to be somewhere else next year and he's looking to
Speaker 1: get a he's gonna be h thirty one or he's
Speaker 1: entering his thirty one season, he's looking to get that
Speaker 1: one last multi year contract. Are you gonna go on
Speaker 1: the field at to start the season when you feel
Speaker 1: like there's a chance you could rip that quad up
Speaker 1: and blow your value? Um tough situation there. Things change
Speaker 1: fast their cornerbacks. To me, it looks like the biggest
Speaker 1: weakness of otherwise really promising looking defense. Their number two
Speaker 1: cornerback is Jalen Mills their number three outside cornerback. They
Speaker 1: you know, they have a good slot guy. And Jonathan Jones,
Speaker 1: the number three outside cornerback, might not be on the team.
Speaker 1: Like it's a guy that maybe it's this guy Sean
Speaker 1: Way who they just traded for from the Ravens. But
Speaker 1: that that's pretty rough, like you know that that is
Speaker 1: that is where they will be attacked, I think from
Speaker 1: by opposing quarterbacks like Tom Brady, by the way. You know,
Speaker 1: Week four, and it does go to show you and
Speaker 1: this goes across all sports because you remember going into
Speaker 1: the season, it was like, now the Patriots gonna get
Speaker 1: back all these guys from the of it opt out
Speaker 1: and everything is gonna be locked and loaded. But you know,
Speaker 1: then the season starts to take shape and everything is
Speaker 1: different every single year. You can never make predictions. Uh.
Speaker 1: In March, let's get into more populist news. Michael Thomas,
Speaker 1: the superstar wide receiver and former Offensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 1: we were reminded on Monday Show reportedly we'll start the
Speaker 1: season on the pu P list that will take him
Speaker 1: out of the first six games of the season. You know,
Speaker 1: this one surprised me a little bit. Chooky, because um,
Speaker 1: I thought it was already kind of like a done deal,
Speaker 1: just like the the way everything had been explained, with
Speaker 1: the late nature of the surgery and Sean Payton being
Speaker 1: ticked off about it, I kind of in my mind
Speaker 1: it already processed. He was gonna be on the publist,
Speaker 1: but nothing had been officially announced. Well, I still don't
Speaker 1: know if it's been officially announced, but Chester says, okay,
Speaker 1: so he is out six weeks at least with his ankle.
Speaker 1: So it's an injury suffered week one and now it's
Speaker 1: gonna eat up a portion of his Yeah, just like
Speaker 1: an ongoing saga at this point, because he's been displeased
Speaker 1: with his situation for a while now, and as we
Speaker 1: all know, he loves the tweet about it, you know,
Speaker 1: just a bunch of sub tweets, you know, vague statements
Speaker 1: that that indicates that he's unhappy. And and now he
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could necessarily say that he
Speaker 1: botched his whole injury situation, but it's more on him
Speaker 1: than it is on the Saints at this point, waiting
Speaker 1: to get that surgery done, and even um, you know
Speaker 1: the way he went about his offseason so it costs
Speaker 1: him time, it costs the Saints their best receiver again,
Speaker 1: and now with a new quarterback, they're gonna be forced
Speaker 1: to adjust. Luckily, they've had the entire preseason to kind
Speaker 1: of plan for it because he hasn't been around. But ultimately,
Speaker 1: when you're looking at them on paper and going to
Speaker 1: the regular season, you obviously would want to have Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas on your team as opposed to not. It just
Speaker 1: like gives a bigger runway from Marcus Callaway to be
Speaker 1: the number to be the new out pro. Uh. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, there's so much hype around Callaway in
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. I feel like, is is
Speaker 1: that going to feel like an August thing that we
Speaker 1: all kind of smirk at in a couple of months,
Speaker 1: or do you think this guy is gonna step in
Speaker 1: and play like a pro bowler? Think he'll be solid,
Speaker 1: but it's a lot to ask. I think he could
Speaker 1: put up eight nine hundred yards something like that, which
Speaker 1: is amazing for a second year undrafted guy. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you can't expect him to be enough, but
Speaker 1: he's he is their number one, and they're gonna throw
Speaker 1: the ball. They do have I I think I haven't
Speaker 1: checked the Brandon Thorn rankings. He's great on offensive line play,
Speaker 1: so shook. They would be my pick as the number
Speaker 1: one offensive line in football. And Caesar Ruis their first
Speaker 1: round pick. It was kind of a u their worst
Speaker 1: player last year on their offensive line reportedly looks way
Speaker 1: better and suddenly so okay, now you're fitting at the
Speaker 1: one guy that wasn't that good suddenly like that is
Speaker 1: an awesome offensive line that'll help Jamis out a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would definitely put them at least the top three,
Speaker 1: if not the number one spot. I think those top
Speaker 1: three teams some have some questions. The Patriots are also
Speaker 1: up there if they can actually get healthy seasons out
Speaker 1: of guys like Isaiah Winn. But and I also would
Speaker 1: put the Browns by the top three, top four if
Speaker 1: they can also be healthy. All you know, across the
Speaker 1: starting line, alo, Okay, you know, but Jedrick Willson he
Speaker 1: needs to be better. He needs obviously be better. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you tried that starting line up out there,
Speaker 1: and they were the best last year. They would they
Speaker 1: finished with the belt. So I think that's we're about
Speaker 1: to We're about to talk about another good offensive line
Speaker 1: at Green Bay. But but shook, did you happen to
Speaker 1: catch Monday Show when both Rosenthal and claybron did not
Speaker 1: um predict the Browns to the playoffs? But I did?
Speaker 1: Did you hapen to catch that show? Wow? You know, Dan,
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, if I had to pick anybody
Speaker 1: on this podcast, and even with the rotating casts of guests,
Speaker 1: you're last. You're the last person I would pick to
Speaker 1: do that. So you can't put me in. I regret it.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a whole thing. Mark doesn't need
Speaker 1: to find something to be annoyed with, you know, by me.
Speaker 1: But now this is is gonna be hanging over He's
Speaker 1: every time the Browns win, and they'll probably win like
Speaker 1: twelve games and they'll just be like just to stick.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, guys, I'm a little scarred from
Speaker 1: last year because the jaded nous in me and my
Speaker 1: brain led me to believe that the Browns weren't going
Speaker 1: to beat the Steelers in the playoffs. Um and I
Speaker 1: picked against him and I had to hear it from
Speaker 1: well you know. But then I'm juxtaposed against Cessler, who's
Speaker 1: like fly into the night Browns all the way and
Speaker 1: into the end of the Earth and the end of days.
Speaker 1: They're gonna lead us there. So I was the bad
Speaker 1: guy no matter what. So now we're you know, releasing
Speaker 1: predictions from all the analysts to see where I put
Speaker 1: the Browns. Yeah, you're gonna cut them and the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That was part of it is I wanted to sprinkle
Speaker 1: some wild card love to some other teams. And it's
Speaker 1: like June, if you don't totally buy that, it's the
Speaker 1: most likely thing agent history at this point. But did
Speaker 1: you have the Browns beating the Chiefs in the divisional playoffs? No? No,
Speaker 1: and they didn't. And I don't feel bad about that.
Speaker 1: Packers left tackle David Baktieri, one of the best in
Speaker 1: the game, shook maybe the best left tackle in the league.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you tell me. It will remain on
Speaker 1: the physically unable to perform list to start the regular season,
Speaker 1: if you remember to is a c L late last season,
Speaker 1: so he's out the first six weeks. Uh. The team
Speaker 1: was optimistic earlier in the spring that he was going
Speaker 1: to be ready for Week one. There was that, you know,
Speaker 1: as all players are coming back from a c L, tears.
Speaker 1: He was ahead of schedule, but turns out he's more
Speaker 1: on a typical schedule, which means he will be without
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers will be without his blind side protector for
Speaker 1: nearly half the season. Yeah, these these pop list news
Speaker 1: I think was ultimately bigger than a lot of the cuts.
Speaker 1: The cuts are. The cuts are interesting, but Gilmore in
Speaker 1: BACTR especially, you didn't know what was gonna happen with
Speaker 1: them too. And those are two All pros, first team
Speaker 1: All Pros. You can you can't replace that. I'm a
Speaker 1: little anxious about the Packers offensive line. I think they're
Speaker 1: fineite left tackle where Alcton Jenkins seems like he can
Speaker 1: do anything, and he's moving from center and guard to
Speaker 1: left tackle, and he's going to make himself a ton
Speaker 1: of money I think one day be one of the
Speaker 1: highest paid players in the league. But the rest of
Speaker 1: the guys on that offensive line just kind of guys about.
Speaker 1: They they're hoping that, They're hoping this scheme makes up
Speaker 1: for for that. What about the idea the track record
Speaker 1: of the Packers, at least especially recently, in developing talent
Speaker 1: on their offensive line and plug finding ways that to
Speaker 1: get by I think organizationally, maybe they deserve the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt here, Yeah, I mean developmentally to a degree. Also,
Speaker 1: their scheme helps in the fact that they play with
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, who is a master of navigating the pocket.
Speaker 1: I mean they don't they don't set typical pass pockets.
Speaker 1: They don't. They it's it's more of a fluid type
Speaker 1: of thing where rogers allowed to feel and and maybe
Speaker 1: escaped from time to time and deliver the football. And
Speaker 1: and it helps those guys, I guess, kind of avoid
Speaker 1: the type of players that would put them on a
Speaker 1: highlight for all the wrong reasons. Too. We have a
Speaker 1: trade to talk about and involves my New York Jets,
Speaker 1: who send disappointing tight end Chris Herndon to the Minnesota
Speaker 1: Vikings for a draft pick to be named later. Herndon,
Speaker 1: once upon a time, a fourth round pick in two
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen, really flashed and me and many other Jets
Speaker 1: fans and other football observers saw him as a real
Speaker 1: hit for Mike Tannerbaum and a guy that they were
Speaker 1: going to build around with Sam Donald Uh. He had
Speaker 1: his two thousand nineteen season wiped out by a suspension
Speaker 1: and then an injury, and then he completely bottomed out
Speaker 1: in with a ton of drops and just was had
Speaker 1: all sorts of issues. Uh. And he had been behind
Speaker 1: Tyler Croft on the depth chart this spring and summer,
Speaker 1: so that the writing scene to be on the wall,
Speaker 1: and now the Jets move on. The Vikings, who just
Speaker 1: lost IRV. Smith Jr. To a knee injury, have another
Speaker 1: option in that building. Yeah, it's it's a trade that
Speaker 1: makes sense because you have to replace him, and you
Speaker 1: replace him with a guy who has been a fantasy
Speaker 1: darling but hasn't really lived up to those expectations for
Speaker 1: the majority of his career. I mean, it's one of
Speaker 1: those things where a guy has a pretty solid rookie
Speaker 1: year and then they just expect you, expect you to
Speaker 1: take the next step. So I give him a little
Speaker 1: bit of the benefit out because he was playing in
Speaker 1: the Jets, the most dysfunctional franchise in the last couple
Speaker 1: of years, so it's not like he exactly had a
Speaker 1: tailor made situation for him to flourish. But I also
Speaker 1: don't expect him to necessarily follow in the footsteps where IRF.
Speaker 1: Smith was trending toward, which was a potential breakout season
Speaker 1: before having his knee injury. It does make sense physically,
Speaker 1: like the type of player we'll see, you know, how
Speaker 1: how quickly he can get up to speed and play
Speaker 1: a role. They are very thin in terms of their
Speaker 1: pass catchers or Smith the big loss. And the more
Speaker 1: you hear about this injury, it sounds like it could
Speaker 1: be a while. No one's put a projected timeline, but
Speaker 1: it's now They're now. It sounds like it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't know if and when if Smith is going
Speaker 1: to be back, which which is a bummer. You know, Dan,
Speaker 1: you you kind of get, you know, we've sort of
Speaker 1: been a little more open with our just like rooting
Speaker 1: against each other's Jets, Patriots, taps and stuff. Just just
Speaker 1: you know, let's just be honest. It's almost three years.
Speaker 1: But one of the things that you do, you know,
Speaker 1: but in that situation is like every once in a while,
Speaker 1: you see a guy on the other team, like I
Speaker 1: loved Herndon and you just give him a lot of pop.
Speaker 1: It's like, see, I'm not such an unbiased I'm unbiased.
Speaker 1: I'm not such a bad guy. And I was like
Speaker 1: I was really gassing up Chris hearned in three years
Speaker 1: ago and he hurt me, you know, putting an easil
Speaker 1: fuel into him when he needed super unletted. That's that's
Speaker 1: my theory. Uh yeah, And I don't know, maybe a
Speaker 1: fresh start does something for her. And because there really
Speaker 1: was a good skill set there and he could block
Speaker 1: and he made a lot of big plays. In two eighteen,
Speaker 1: they have one of the Jets offensive coaches over there.
Speaker 1: I forget off the top of my head who who
Speaker 1: it was, who it is, but that's that's there is
Speaker 1: a connection got head over to the Kicker Club and
Speaker 1: this is a story that we don't know how to
Speaker 1: make sense of it really over in the Kicker Club
Speaker 1: because we always like to have a kicker on every team.
Speaker 1: That's like one of the things that we're into. Hit
Speaker 1: it Grape bigger um Dan Campbell. Maybe it's like a
Speaker 1: John Mellencamp guy. Maybe he's a guy I don't like.
Speaker 1: I don't set foot in the Kicker Club. I don't
Speaker 1: like that electronic dance music. You could totally see that
Speaker 1: with Campbell because the lines of released Ain Gonzalez and
Speaker 1: Randy Bullet big Bone Randy. So, with about ten days
Speaker 1: to go before the season starts, the Detroit lines do
Speaker 1: not have a kicker. Now, these things could be quickly
Speaker 1: uh fixed. In the NFL, there's always kickers floating around,
Speaker 1: including Kai Bath. And some people might say, Kai Ski,
Speaker 1: why don't you go check out that game tape with
Speaker 1: Dallas a couple of years ago. Don't look at the
Speaker 1: Rams tape from last season. There are kickers out there.
Speaker 1: The lines are going to have one soon. I would say,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things if you're Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: fan to be concerned about this one. Calmed down. Everybody's
Speaker 1: getting their shops in on the lines because that's fun.
Speaker 1: But everything's fun. That's a little spoiled. They're a little spoiled.
Speaker 1: You know. They had they had the strong lego Matt
Speaker 1: Prayer for a while and it could be like a
Speaker 1: next level um gaming. The system move like, no one's
Speaker 1: gonna pick up either one of these guys, so let's
Speaker 1: just use that roster spot to get players we do
Speaker 1: want like picking up. They're gonna be high on the
Speaker 1: waiver wire and they're gonna get some veterans and then
Speaker 1: they'll just like re add one of them in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks or in in a week or whatever.
Speaker 1: There there's some some interesting cut kickers out there. I
Speaker 1: guess we will get to that maybe the Lions, or
Speaker 1: maybe the Lions will just uh like have their safety
Speaker 1: kick the ball like the Texans did over the weekend.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that one. That was
Speaker 1: a little distresdress. It was a kicking community. They just
Speaker 1: said Eric Re'd be their kicker. They could also go
Speaker 1: to the route and this A lot of this depends
Speaker 1: on Jared Goff and I guess I don't know t J. Hockenson,
Speaker 1: but they could do what the Packers did last year
Speaker 1: and just not kick field goals. I read earlier today,
Speaker 1: I just kind of ran into it that Mason Crosby
Speaker 1: only had sixteen field goal attempts last year. How is
Speaker 1: that possible? He made them all, by the way, good
Speaker 1: for him, and he also had sixty three point after
Speaker 1: kick attempts, making fifty nine of sixty three uh sixteen
Speaker 1: field field goal attempts. The lines might have sixteen field
Speaker 1: goal attempts by October, right, That would be a fun experiment, though,
Speaker 1: If ever there was a team to do it, it's
Speaker 1: the Lions. Let's just play four down football for a
Speaker 1: year and see what happens. I mean we could, we
Speaker 1: could test who's that high school coach? You you go
Speaker 1: for it? Refused to put don't punt, don't punt, But
Speaker 1: like we're not gonna kick any field goals. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're stuck in like a fourth and twenty four at
Speaker 1: the twenty yard line or it's thirty yard lines, and
Speaker 1: then go for it. Man, what do you got to lose?
Speaker 1: A draft pick? All right? And guys getting kicked? Let
Speaker 1: go on, some guys getting booted out of the kickers.
Speaker 1: And how about the money Badger is gone no more?
Speaker 1: There's a guy that Lions could pick up money Badger.
Speaker 1: What happened to money Badger? Bad Camp? He's caught bad Camp.
Speaker 1: I forget who beat him out, but he was getting
Speaker 1: beat all all camp and um Nick Focal also got caught.
Speaker 1: Very surprising. Erica tam posts uh favorite uh player, new player,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, as my phone goes off, come on,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just I mean, and that might
Speaker 1: be confusing because like Eric is only into the guy
Speaker 1: because he's a hot dude, and you would you would
Speaker 1: think that wouldn't matter to America tamp Post, but apparently
Speaker 1: it did. She got she fell head over heels. We
Speaker 1: also missed like five kicks in one of the preseason games,
Speaker 1: but they said he bounced back well firm it. So
Speaker 1: they got they got rid of Nick Folk and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: Tristan Viscayno, by the way, is the Chargers kicker who
Speaker 1: just hear me out on this. Hear me out. Hear
Speaker 1: me out. What if Bill Belichick's going crazy? And like
Speaker 1: nobody knows yet and he's doing all these different things
Speaker 1: like cutting Cam Newton and getting into fights with the
Speaker 1: defensive player of the year Steph Gilmore and you know,
Speaker 1: now this situation, what if he's going he's going mad.
Speaker 1: It just hasn't leaked yet. Seth worker Sham is not
Speaker 1: writing the profile until like November. That'd be pretty cool,
Speaker 1: like mad in what way? Just like he's an old
Speaker 1: man who just just to use some like dated like
Speaker 1: parlance like, uh, he's losing his marbles. Yeah, he's getting
Speaker 1: up there a little bit. Nobody wants to say anything
Speaker 1: because he's Bill Belichick. Just is it a possibility anything? Uh?
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. Finally, Uh, in the News, Sean Payton uh
Speaker 1: said that it is very possible that the Saints begin
Speaker 1: their season on the road in Week one. They're supposed
Speaker 1: to start the season at home, but Peyton said that
Speaker 1: the Saints are leaning towards staying in doubt the Dallas
Speaker 1: area for the next several weeks until they are able
Speaker 1: to return home following the destruction of Hurricane Ida, and
Speaker 1: there's a good chance they will host their Week one
Speaker 1: game scheduled for September twelve against the Packers in Dallas
Speaker 1: or elsewhere if they are unable to get back into
Speaker 1: the Superdome. So we're continuing to track that. The Saints
Speaker 1: influx again with hurricane related business now reminds me of THO. Five,
Speaker 1: where I always give Jim Haslet a ton of props
Speaker 1: for how he handled that situation with grace and leadership,
Speaker 1: like leading that teams. I don't think it sounds like that.
Speaker 1: You know, the Superdome didn't take um a lot of damage,
Speaker 1: but the city you know, doesn't even have electricity back
Speaker 1: in My heart kind of breaks for that, and and
Speaker 1: the Saints thing, it's like, well, what does the say
Speaker 1: it's really matter in the scheme of things. It's like,
Speaker 1: it's a bummer. That is about as football mad a
Speaker 1: place as possible, and what a good, you know, distraction
Speaker 1: that would be in Peyton. Yeah, seem to use the
Speaker 1: wording the first quarter of the season, um that they
Speaker 1: would stay in Dallas. But they cannot play at Jerry
Speaker 1: World this Sunday or in Week one rather because there's
Speaker 1: some concert that's a conflict in the NFL now has
Speaker 1: a rule that they have to play at an NFL stadium,
Speaker 1: So they can't do what they did last time and
Speaker 1: just like play at TCU or play some other I
Speaker 1: I don't know, So they're they're looking for uh maybe yeah,
Speaker 1: I I have no idea what it is, but it
Speaker 1: looks like they'll probably play too. You know, at this point,
Speaker 1: it looks like they're planning to play to two games
Speaker 1: not in New Orleans, and then they'll hang out. They're
Speaker 1: gonna practice in Dallas. It looks like regardless and talk
Speaker 1: about adding to you know, what was already gonna be
Speaker 1: a difficult transition year for them on the field. Now
Speaker 1: you gotta take them out of you know, their home
Speaker 1: two weeks before the season starts. It's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1: They Yeah, they have road games that Carolina and New
Speaker 1: England and then they're back against the Giants October three,
Speaker 1: which is week for another road game in a bye,
Speaker 1: so I guess they would probably hope to return for
Speaker 1: a Halloween game. You know, it would be the best
Speaker 1: case scenario against the Bucks. That's the only the only
Speaker 1: bright side is it'll be that'll be a great atmosphere
Speaker 1: when when when they do get back. Celebration whenever it
Speaker 1: does happen, you want to throw out some just like random.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to. I wanted to mention one more thing,
Speaker 1: Greg before we do that, because we had meant to
Speaker 1: hit on it. So let's just get caught up with
Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson situation. NFL Networks ian Rappaport reports the
Speaker 1: Texans are not expected to trade Watson uh by the
Speaker 1: league's four pm Eastern roster cut down deadline. That has
Speaker 1: not happened, so he's not moving and it's sounds likely
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up on the fifty three man roster,
Speaker 1: but more than Glee be inactive every week of the season,
Speaker 1: at least until there's any movement on the sexual assault
Speaker 1: allegations for more than twenty women facing the quarterback. So
Speaker 1: we hadn't really touched on that Greg in a week
Speaker 1: or two. That's where Watson's that. There are some reports
Speaker 1: out there still keeps popping up with certain teams that
Speaker 1: might be interested in a trade for Watson right now,
Speaker 1: but as it is, right now, he is a Houston
Speaker 1: Texas I didn't believe those those trade rumors. I I
Speaker 1: really thought people are doing tech either the Texans or
Speaker 1: DeShawn more likely Deshaun Watson's business, and making these reports
Speaker 1: out to be something more than they are now. Based
Speaker 1: on everything we know, it sounds like the Dolphins had
Speaker 1: some level of interest at some point, and what I
Speaker 1: think happened is that now they're pushing these reports out
Speaker 1: like trying to push someone else to top those reports.
Speaker 1: I just don't believe it. I don't believe a team
Speaker 1: is going to trade for the Shawn Watson no matter
Speaker 1: how much de Shaun Watson wants to get traded. I
Speaker 1: just don't think as cynical as the NFL can be,
Speaker 1: I don't think it could be this cynical that they're
Speaker 1: gonna like build like it was, getting into these weird
Speaker 1: conditions of like well maybe they would make conditional picks
Speaker 1: based on like how much uh you know, jail time,
Speaker 1: not jail time he gets, but like based on how
Speaker 1: much he was punished by the league or by what
Speaker 1: happens in the cases, Like, come on, man, you don't
Speaker 1: have to pass these these trial balloons on. I just
Speaker 1: don't buy it. I don't think any other NFL team
Speaker 1: is considering would considering it, and they're waiting for the
Speaker 1: NFL or the legal system to act. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: think that's the result that we, you know, the solution,
Speaker 1: the temporary solution that we get, uh from this whole thing,
Speaker 1: has been the NFL acts on it. Until then, we're
Speaker 1: kind of waiting in this gray area which allows for
Speaker 1: these types of reports to come out and and for
Speaker 1: this conversation to continue, when ultimately he probably should just
Speaker 1: stay where he is off the field until we get
Speaker 1: some sort of resolution. Right, There's there's another conversation of
Speaker 1: like should he get paid, should have Texans have him
Speaker 1: on his roster? This, that or the other. But the
Speaker 1: criminal cases like really important here there's also a criminal
Speaker 1: case with ten women. It's like, how could I don't
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I want to believe it
Speaker 1: to Greg. My my honest feeling is that there is
Speaker 1: a team or teams more likely that are monitoring this
Speaker 1: extremely closely, and um, the only reason they're probably not
Speaker 1: waiting into it right now and making an aggressive offer
Speaker 1: is not the legal situation so much, but the PR
Speaker 1: hit and the fallout that they would take from that.
Speaker 1: So it's scaring them off. I just wonder, and I'll
Speaker 1: use the Dolphins as an example. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are seriously considering it, but let's say it's
Speaker 1: Week five and to his passer rating seventy one, you know,
Speaker 1: like things like that with that spur action on the trademarker.
Speaker 1: Because we know the way the legal system works with this,
Speaker 1: it's not moving at the same speed as the season
Speaker 1: is approaching us. So there's a good chance we'll go
Speaker 1: deep into the season and Watson will remain in limbo.
Speaker 1: Is there a team that gets impatient and just says,
Speaker 1: screw it, let's go for it and deal with the
Speaker 1: PR fire to come, We'll see, We'll see, or the
Speaker 1: NFL gets involved, which is so certainly something that could
Speaker 1: happen or should happen, and puts the guy out of
Speaker 1: the mix for the time being with an exemplist designation.
Speaker 1: And then this isn't floating because this is on some
Speaker 1: level a self made story by the NFL, which I
Speaker 1: think we're all a little bit puzzled about still, but
Speaker 1: it is what it is, right and I still I
Speaker 1: guess you're right that that's possible. I guess I'm I
Speaker 1: still think they're gonna wait for the police to act,
Speaker 1: not even the civil case, but they need to have
Speaker 1: some sort of clarity. It just doesn't make sense, all right,
Speaker 1: do we want to now, let's get back to UH
Speaker 1: football stuff. Anything else you guys wanted to throw out
Speaker 1: their shook? Did you see anything that popped up that
Speaker 1: interested you, whether it's a pup designation or a cut
Speaker 1: or signing anything out there? Fans draft UH specifically the
Speaker 1: tenth pick will be pleased to know that Josh Rosen
Speaker 1: made the fifty three man roster in Atlanta. After playing
Speaker 1: all of one game with the Falcons, he had a promotion.
Speaker 1: He was fourth string in San Francisco. He's the backup now,
Speaker 1: although with this whole week before the season starts, you
Speaker 1: do um worry if you're if you are a Rosen fan,
Speaker 1: that you could see like a transaction in two days
Speaker 1: that he was because they found the up. But that's
Speaker 1: why this podcast exists. So we can talk about it
Speaker 1: now before he's gone, whatever he leaves, if it's two
Speaker 1: days from an how or whatever. It's funny he did
Speaker 1: play that and it wasn't like it was the greatest
Speaker 1: half ever. I think he had a self fumble on
Speaker 1: like the first series whatever. But um, when I the
Speaker 1: next morning, I did not watch the game, but the
Speaker 1: next morning, when I read what turned into like a
Speaker 1: flowery profile about the rebirth of Josh Rosen, that was
Speaker 1: what the gamer was, I believe on ESPN or the
Speaker 1: Associated Press, I was like, whoa, there's something cooking here.
Speaker 1: This agent deserves a raise because he went from a
Speaker 1: total disappearing act in San Francisco to getting a puff
Speaker 1: Sunday puff piece written about overcoming the odds here. Last night,
Speaker 1: I think it was last night I found myself in
Speaker 1: a quiet moment thinking about Josh Rosen and thinking about
Speaker 1: you know, you know, this could be the situation that
Speaker 1: he needs to be in. You know, we don't know
Speaker 1: that Arthur Smith is a great developer of quarterbacks, but
Speaker 1: perhaps if he spends enough time learning from Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: he can develop into a similar quarterback and his career
Speaker 1: could be worth something after all. And then I thought,
Speaker 1: all right, where am I going? What time is it?
Speaker 1: I gotta get all those all those chuckle heads like
Speaker 1: me who like gave the Bills a bad draft grade
Speaker 1: and loved that Cardinals moved to to cheaply move up
Speaker 1: for Joffs. I'm sorry about that. How about how about
Speaker 1: a little punter trade. The whole buzz this preseason was
Speaker 1: that Johnny Hecker was not going to make the Rams
Speaker 1: made it makes a lot of money. Uh was losing
Speaker 1: a battle to Corey Rourke wise, I think is how
Speaker 1: you pronounce it? Um? But no punter trade. They sent
Speaker 1: packing over to the Packers conditional late round pick, swap
Speaker 1: six for a seven. This guy has a bomb. I
Speaker 1: was there for the one of the preseason games. I
Speaker 1: watched some of the Rams preseason. Oh my gosh, he could.
Speaker 1: He can kick it like seventies six yards. But they
Speaker 1: kept Hecker, which should keep like the you know, there's
Speaker 1: not many like long time Rams favorites, and so it's nice.
Speaker 1: I'm glad Johnny heckers Hecker got a good arm on him.
Speaker 1: It makes you wonder what's gonna happen with J. K.
Speaker 1: Scott and whether his most recent and perhaps most memorable
Speaker 1: highlight will be getting juked out on a punt return.
Speaker 1: The Packers punters like punters matter. Um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: A good punter can really change your team. That's a
Speaker 1: nice deal for the for the Packers. Here and here's
Speaker 1: some big names that surprised me. So by the way, um,
Speaker 1: everybody knows the Kicker Club. But a reminder but that
Speaker 1: there is the Punters Punch Bowl Mixer. It's at the
Speaker 1: local gymnasium and they have a bunch of balloons and yes,
Speaker 1: a nice punch bowl in a full HOGI it's a
Speaker 1: six ft long hog and a dance floor that plays
Speaker 1: records mostly from the fifties. But it's all there for
Speaker 1: the punters. Go ahead. Hecker has got a m C
Speaker 1: that thing. He's got a lot of personality. He's been
Speaker 1: around for He's one of the all time greatcakes at
Speaker 1: this mixer. Yes, yes there are cupcakes of course. What else?
Speaker 1: How about John Brown didn't make the Raiders. That surprised me.
Speaker 1: He still looked like he could play last year. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Sometimes people are like, well that's crazy,
Speaker 1: But sometimes like it's like you said, things change each year.
Speaker 1: It's like sometimes the Guys Show up and suddenly they
Speaker 1: can't play before they're just not And because the John
Speaker 1: Brown even looked like like he would be maybe the
Speaker 1: best or the second best receiver on the entire Raider's team,
Speaker 1: but he didn't make the team. Uh, Jordan Howard got cut.
Speaker 1: And then one thing I just want to play on
Speaker 1: because we never mentioned it throughout the whole preseam, Tyler
Speaker 1: Huntley won the backup job in Baltimore. That's no surprise
Speaker 1: over Trace McSorley, who got cut. Um. If you watch
Speaker 1: him play, Tyler only look good. He was kind of
Speaker 1: the preseason MVP. I don't know if Lamar Jackson got hurt.
Speaker 1: Ravens fans know what I'm talking about. They didn't win that.
Speaker 1: They didn't break that record because Lamar Jackson. They broke
Speaker 1: it because of Tyler Huntley. They might have something here
Speaker 1: with Tyler Huntley, maybe a little like you know, Tyrod Taylor,
Speaker 1: late round or undrafted type of guy who ends up
Speaker 1: carving out you know, a nice a nice career like
Speaker 1: Tyrod did when they when they found him a long
Speaker 1: time ago. Any Packed twelve fans will remember Tyler Huntley's
Speaker 1: days at Utah very fondly. So you know, in case
Speaker 1: of emergency break glass, pull out the former you. I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: if there's another Lamar Jackson, you know, no, you better
Speaker 1: not go on the COVID list again. But if if
Speaker 1: he misses the game and there's like a Wednesday matinee
Speaker 1: against the Steelers, I have I think it'll be more
Speaker 1: watchable this year with Tyler Huntley. Yeah. Three, Um, anything
Speaker 1: else SHOOKI No, I think that's it. Greg Now we
Speaker 1: handled it. Tavon Austin made the jack Wars. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're kind of at the in there. But and so
Speaker 1: he's he's hung around pretty good for a guy that
Speaker 1: was a first round bust. The fact that he's still
Speaker 1: collecting paychecks is pretty good. The reason I mentioned yeah,
Speaker 1: I wrote a debrief, you know, just kind of a
Speaker 1: quick round up today of these and the reason was
Speaker 1: just like, Wow, the names that he made the team
Speaker 1: over in Jacksonville. I didn't know they were there. La
Speaker 1: Kwan Treadwell, former first round pick, Philip door Set super
Speaker 1: Bowl hero and former first round pick, Pharrell Cooper, former
Speaker 1: first team All Pro. I don't know if you remember
Speaker 1: Phara Colin Johnson. There's just like a lot of guys
Speaker 1: over there in Jacksonville, Tavon beat him all out. Desmon
Speaker 1: Trufont cut by the Bears a very steep decline for him.
Speaker 1: That was that was surprising. They are really young at cornerback,
Speaker 1: like the Rams have to be looking at week one,
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good there and uh, finally this happened actually
Speaker 1: two days ago, but let's make sure we get into
Speaker 1: the show. The Cardinals part ways with safety Chris Banjo.
Speaker 1: Turns out he couldn't play the guitar. Uh, this is
Speaker 1: like Dan's moment that like Adam Schefter had where people
Speaker 1: got on him for like fist bumping by breaking a
Speaker 1: guy getting released and they were like, that's insensitive. We're
Speaker 1: talking Cargo's secondary. My guy Malcolm Butler may retire. We
Speaker 1: just don't know. So it's um a little uh strange
Speaker 1: timing wise. But Mike Garifolo reported that that would that
Speaker 1: would be a shame or it's something's going on there
Speaker 1: that was personal that he didn't want to get into.
Speaker 1: Garifolo broke this story. But they were counting on him
Speaker 1: to start and gave him money to start, and that
Speaker 1: he's been away from the team for a minute now
Speaker 1: and may not may not be coming back. That would
Speaker 1: be a sad way to end. I I hope he
Speaker 1: comes back at some point. Come on the super Bowl
Speaker 1: hero all right, there you go. That is a t
Speaker 1: N guest. By the way, I missed the show somehow,
Speaker 1: But do you remember, you know, you had him in
Speaker 1: the studio. Who's that? Oh? Yeah, yeah, he was good.
Speaker 1: We had a nice conversation with Malcolm. I interviewed him
Speaker 1: in that locker room right after the game, and it
Speaker 1: was even as a Patriots hater, he was an easy
Speaker 1: guy to root for. And you could just see the
Speaker 1: look in his face like he hadn't yet processed what
Speaker 1: had happened in that game. It's legacy, you secure, he'll
Speaker 1: be all right, he's the old He'll never have to
Speaker 1: buy another drink again in that town. Alright, But is
Speaker 1: that actually true? Probably not, alright. I don't know. For
Speaker 1: some guys that hang around, I feel like, hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, but they'll have to buy another meal in
Speaker 1: that town. It's one of those things everyone says and
Speaker 1: does that ever. Actually, people are resentful of millionaire athletes.
Speaker 1: They're like, I'm not, but yeah, you should be buying
Speaker 1: me drinks. I will say Sunday night last week after
Speaker 1: the Brown's preseason game against the Giants, I walked down
Speaker 1: the street and who was having dinner outside with a
Speaker 1: couple of people. Bernie Kozar cannot confirm whether he paid
Speaker 1: for it or not. Now, Bernie, he's the ultimate. Don't
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to pay m Okay, good Chuck, Thank
Speaker 1: you buddy. And as a reminder, Nick Shook not only
Speaker 1: hugely personable and an excellent physical condition, is a lifeline
Speaker 1: for us on Sunday nights during the season in our
Speaker 1: recap of every game that is played during the season.
Speaker 1: So Shookie, you will be back with It's hard to believe, Nick,
Speaker 1: but a week from Sunday we're back with our Sunday
Speaker 1: Night recaps, hitting up every game that was played in
Speaker 1: the week that was and looking forward to it. Nick,
Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy. Yeah, of course, you know. It hit
Speaker 1: me this week with the cuts that that we're basically here,
Speaker 1: and I'm excited for it because you know, as much
Speaker 1: as I know Greg loves watching every player number nine
Speaker 1: on the roster in the fourth quarter of a week
Speaker 1: two preseason game. Come on, just go with it, Just
Speaker 1: go with it. I know we're all excited to watch
Speaker 1: the actual legitimate players for a full four quarters and
Speaker 1: we're expecting you. We're not gonna We're probably not going
Speaker 1: to be in the studio week one. Sounds like we
Speaker 1: two is a more likely target. You know, they are
Speaker 1: opening up the building. We're expecting you to commute. Nick,
Speaker 1: I know you're in Cleveland, but yeah, you know, fly coach. Um,
Speaker 1: let's see they'll pay. We're we're a huge operation. Now.
Speaker 1: There's no money's too much to spend on our podcast,
Speaker 1: especially in a brand new studio. You know. Yeah, apparently
Speaker 1: there is tech that allows that to happen, uh seamlessly,
Speaker 1: We're being told. Um, so we look at Oh that's
Speaker 1: all exciting, And I apologize to Chris Banjo and his
Speaker 1: entire family. Entering the league is an undrafted free agent
Speaker 1: and here he is fighting for jobs eight years later.
Speaker 1: Only only apologize if you if you cut it for
Speaker 1: social because like the celebration dance was even even worse
Speaker 1: than this sounds. It's like when um John Cena had
Speaker 1: to apologize and Mandarin for saying something that offended the
Speaker 1: people of the region. Um, all right, what okay, that's it.
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Thursday. Unless something else crazy pops
Speaker 1: up um. But thank you for everybody for listening until then,
Speaker 1: heat the call sight. We have this meeting in one minute.
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