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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. The NFL machine doesn't stop

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Speaker 1: damn right. Welcome to another edition to the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hans. That comes to

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Speaker 1: you from a virtual room filled with some heroes. Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: Reggie It's there, Dependable, the Iron Horse they call him,

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Speaker 1: uh and joining us on a very special cutdown edition,

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Speaker 1: unplanned initially edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. And

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Speaker 1: back our old friend the Pipe, Nick Shook Shookie getting

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Speaker 1: some get pump in before before he speaks his first words,

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Speaker 1: I like the sound of those weights. Those are some

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Speaker 1: old school waits. That's the type of gym I prefer, though,

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Speaker 1: the old Like legitimate metal plates, none, none of this

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Speaker 1: rubber casing. Nothing that protects people. There's no handles on

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Speaker 1: the weights. You can pinch and potentially sever a finger

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Speaker 1: or at least get a blood blister, you know, the real,

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Speaker 1: the gritty stuff. We did you work out in the

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Speaker 1: Browns facility? And were there players who either were threatened

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Speaker 1: by you or kind of wanted to show you, like hey,

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Speaker 1: Brown's reporter, like you're not so tough, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? As the legend goes, they used to allow

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Speaker 1: employees to work in work out in the same gym,

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Speaker 1: cafeteria and like left it out and made a mess

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Speaker 1: and just left it there. So they ended up when

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Speaker 1: the Haslems came in, they built a separate employee gym

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Speaker 1: that is literally right next to the team's weight room

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Speaker 1: and attached to the field house. So technically no um,

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Speaker 1: it out a lot. Actually kind of say, I bet

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Speaker 1: they brought it up a lot. I bet Freddie Kitchens

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Speaker 1: Let's see if you moves for this guy. It basically

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Speaker 1: But ultimately, yeah, it's funny more than anything since and

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Speaker 1: Greg with how how did Shook come to leave the

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Speaker 1: Browns very quickly? Maybe Shook left at Apple Cores next

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Speaker 1: to the bench press or something. But you know Mark's

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Speaker 1: remember a couple of weeks ago, we had that discussion

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Speaker 1: down the list, and we ended up missing Freddie Kitchens,

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Speaker 1: So when whenever Mark comes back, is that to look

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Speaker 1: forward to it, we'll have to bring that up with him,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, the integrity of the podcast has to

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Speaker 1: stand above fan leanings. Ultimately, I gotta get Freddy Kitchens

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Speaker 1: great guy to spend a few hours at a hotel

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Speaker 1: to to close that circle, Steve Wilkes, I think it's

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Speaker 1: alright anyway, So yes, we were last with you on Monday,

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Speaker 1: think Greg and I separately, maybe even at the same time, Greg,

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Speaker 1: Tuesday's got down Day. They changed it the schedule a

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Speaker 1: here it is the old school Bunker Cast, and we're

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Speaker 1: just gonna quickly shoot through the news everything that's happened

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Speaker 1: over the last uh twelve hours or so. So great. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Grave Digger, how are you doing, buddy? Big performance? I

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Speaker 1: thought on the Monday show a lot of buzz about

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Speaker 1: Grave Digger and Erica on a tropical vacation right now

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Speaker 1: in the middle of our season. Uh. Did you get

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Speaker 1: crush its gray. It's tiger inspiring to make a star

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Speaker 1: of motor sports. And now all you need justin to

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Speaker 1: do do now is isolate the grave digger vocal there

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Speaker 1: and there you go. There's the drop we talked about

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Speaker 1: get into it. Oh that tricky Bill Belichick. Uh, he

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Speaker 1: makes a move nobody saw coming. Release ing. The Patriots

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Speaker 1: Belichick decides the future is now. Mac Jones will begin

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Speaker 1: the eve of Week one, he is out of work. Greg.

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Speaker 1: if you remember to is a c L late last season,

428
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Speaker 1: so he's out the first six weeks. Uh. The team

429
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: was optimistic earlier in the spring that he was going

430
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Speaker 1: to be ready for Week one. There was that, you know,

431
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 1: as all players are coming back from a c L, tears.

432
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 1: He was ahead of schedule, but turns out he's more

433
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Speaker 1: on a typical schedule, which means he will be without

434
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers will be without his blind side protector for

435
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 1: nearly half the season. Yeah, these these pop list news

436
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 1: I think was ultimately bigger than a lot of the cuts.

437
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 1: The cuts are. The cuts are interesting, but Gilmore in

438
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: BACTR especially, you didn't know what was gonna happen with

439
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: them too. And those are two All pros, first team

440
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Speaker 1: All Pros. You can you can't replace that. I'm a

441
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: little anxious about the Packers offensive line. I think they're

442
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Speaker 1: fineite left tackle where Alcton Jenkins seems like he can

443
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Speaker 1: do anything, and he's moving from center and guard to

444
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Speaker 1: left tackle, and he's going to make himself a ton

445
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: of money I think one day be one of the

446
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: highest paid players in the league. But the rest of

447
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 1: the guys on that offensive line just kind of guys about.

448
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 1: They they're hoping that, They're hoping this scheme makes up

449
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: for for that. What about the idea the track record

450
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Speaker 1: of the Packers, at least especially recently, in developing talent

451
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: on their offensive line and plug finding ways that to

452
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Speaker 1: get by I think organizationally, maybe they deserve the benefit

453
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: of the doubt here, Yeah, I mean developmentally to a degree. Also,

454
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: their scheme helps in the fact that they play with

455
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, who is a master of navigating the pocket.

456
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Speaker 1: I mean they don't they don't set typical pass pockets.

457
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: They don't. They it's it's more of a fluid type

458
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Speaker 1: of thing where rogers allowed to feel and and maybe

459
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Speaker 1: escaped from time to time and deliver the football. And

460
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: and it helps those guys, I guess, kind of avoid

461
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Speaker 1: the type of players that would put them on a

462
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Speaker 1: highlight for all the wrong reasons. Too. We have a

463
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Speaker 1: trade to talk about and involves my New York Jets,

464
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: who send disappointing tight end Chris Herndon to the Minnesota

465
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Speaker 1: Vikings for a draft pick to be named later. Herndon,

466
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 1: once upon a time, a fourth round pick in two

467
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen, really flashed and me and many other Jets

468
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: fans and other football observers saw him as a real

469
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: hit for Mike Tannerbaum and a guy that they were

470
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Speaker 1: going to build around with Sam Donald Uh. He had

471
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Speaker 1: his two thousand nineteen season wiped out by a suspension

472
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Speaker 1: and then an injury, and then he completely bottomed out

473
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Speaker 1: in with a ton of drops and just was had

474
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Speaker 1: all sorts of issues. Uh. And he had been behind

475
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: Tyler Croft on the depth chart this spring and summer,

476
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Speaker 1: so that the writing scene to be on the wall,

477
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Speaker 1: and now the Jets move on. The Vikings, who just

478
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Speaker 1: lost IRV. Smith Jr. To a knee injury, have another

479
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: option in that building. Yeah, it's it's a trade that

480
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: makes sense because you have to replace him, and you

481
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Speaker 1: replace him with a guy who has been a fantasy

482
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Speaker 1: darling but hasn't really lived up to those expectations for

483
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Speaker 1: the majority of his career. I mean, it's one of

484
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: those things where a guy has a pretty solid rookie

485
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Speaker 1: year and then they just expect you, expect you to

486
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Speaker 1: take the next step. So I give him a little

487
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Speaker 1: bit of the benefit out because he was playing in

488
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Speaker 1: the Jets, the most dysfunctional franchise in the last couple

489
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Speaker 1: of years, so it's not like he exactly had a

490
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Speaker 1: tailor made situation for him to flourish. But I also

491
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Speaker 1: don't expect him to necessarily follow in the footsteps where IRF.

492
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Speaker 1: Smith was trending toward, which was a potential breakout season

493
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Speaker 1: before having his knee injury. It does make sense physically,

494
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: like the type of player we'll see, you know, how

495
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Speaker 1: how quickly he can get up to speed and play

496
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Speaker 1: a role. They are very thin in terms of their

497
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: pass catchers or Smith the big loss. And the more

498
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: you hear about this injury, it sounds like it could

499
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: be a while. No one's put a projected timeline, but

500
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: it's now They're now. It sounds like it's like, yeah,

501
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: we don't know if and when if Smith is going

502
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Speaker 1: to be back, which which is a bummer. You know, Dan,

503
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: you you kind of get, you know, we've sort of

504
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: been a little more open with our just like rooting

505
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 1: against each other's Jets, Patriots, taps and stuff. Just just

506
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 1: you know, let's just be honest. It's almost three years.

507
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Speaker 1: But one of the things that you do, you know,

508
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: but in that situation is like every once in a while,

509
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Speaker 1: you see a guy on the other team, like I

510
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: loved Herndon and you just give him a lot of pop.

511
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: It's like, see, I'm not such an unbiased I'm unbiased.

512
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: I'm not such a bad guy. And I was like

513
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Speaker 1: I was really gassing up Chris hearned in three years

514
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Speaker 1: ago and he hurt me, you know, putting an easil

515
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Speaker 1: fuel into him when he needed super unletted. That's that's

516
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: my theory. Uh yeah, And I don't know, maybe a

517
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: fresh start does something for her. And because there really

518
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: was a good skill set there and he could block

519
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: and he made a lot of big plays. In two eighteen,

520
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: they have one of the Jets offensive coaches over there.

521
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Speaker 1: I forget off the top of my head who who

522
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: it was, who it is, but that's that's there is

523
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Speaker 1: a connection got head over to the Kicker Club and

524
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Speaker 1: this is a story that we don't know how to

525
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Speaker 1: make sense of it really over in the Kicker Club

526
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: because we always like to have a kicker on every team.

527
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Speaker 1: That's like one of the things that we're into. Hit

528
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Speaker 1: it Grape bigger um Dan Campbell. Maybe it's like a

529
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Speaker 1: John Mellencamp guy. Maybe he's a guy I don't like.

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Speaker 1: I don't set foot in the Kicker Club. I don't

531
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Speaker 1: like that electronic dance music. You could totally see that

532
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Speaker 1: with Campbell because the lines of released Ain Gonzalez and

533
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Speaker 1: Randy Bullet big Bone Randy. So, with about ten days

534
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Speaker 1: to go before the season starts, the Detroit lines do

535
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Speaker 1: not have a kicker. Now, these things could be quickly

536
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: uh fixed. In the NFL, there's always kickers floating around,

537
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Speaker 1: including Kai Bath. And some people might say, Kai Ski,

538
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Speaker 1: why don't you go check out that game tape with

539
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Speaker 1: Dallas a couple of years ago. Don't look at the

540
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: Rams tape from last season. There are kickers out there.

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Speaker 1: The lines are going to have one soon. I would say,

542
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things if you're Detroit Lions

543
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: fan to be concerned about this one. Calmed down. Everybody's

544
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: getting their shops in on the lines because that's fun.

545
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: But everything's fun. That's a little spoiled. They're a little spoiled.

546
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Speaker 1: You know. They had they had the strong lego Matt

547
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Speaker 1: Prayer for a while and it could be like a

548
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Speaker 1: next level um gaming. The system move like, no one's

549
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: gonna pick up either one of these guys, so let's

550
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: just use that roster spot to get players we do

551
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: want like picking up. They're gonna be high on the

552
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: waiver wire and they're gonna get some veterans and then

553
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: they'll just like re add one of them in a

554
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: couple of weeks or in in a week or whatever.

555
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: There there's some some interesting cut kickers out there. I

556
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: guess we will get to that maybe the Lions, or

557
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: maybe the Lions will just uh like have their safety

558
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: kick the ball like the Texans did over the weekend.

559
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that one. That was

560
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: a little distresdress. It was a kicking community. They just

561
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: said Eric Re'd be their kicker. They could also go

562
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: to the route and this A lot of this depends

563
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: on Jared Goff and I guess I don't know t J. Hockenson,

564
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: but they could do what the Packers did last year

565
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: and just not kick field goals. I read earlier today,

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Speaker 1: I just kind of ran into it that Mason Crosby

567
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Speaker 1: only had sixteen field goal attempts last year. How is

568
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: that possible? He made them all, by the way, good

569
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Speaker 1: for him, and he also had sixty three point after

570
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: kick attempts, making fifty nine of sixty three uh sixteen

571
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Speaker 1: field field goal attempts. The lines might have sixteen field

572
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: goal attempts by October, right, That would be a fun experiment, though,

573
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Speaker 1: If ever there was a team to do it, it's

574
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Speaker 1: the Lions. Let's just play four down football for a

575
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: year and see what happens. I mean we could, we

576
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: could test who's that high school coach? You you go

577
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: for it? Refused to put don't punt, don't punt, But

578
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: like we're not gonna kick any field goals. Yeah, if

579
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Speaker 1: you're stuck in like a fourth and twenty four at

580
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: the twenty yard line or it's thirty yard lines, and

581
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: then go for it. Man, what do you got to lose?

582
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: A draft pick? All right? And guys getting kicked? Let

583
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: go on, some guys getting booted out of the kickers.

584
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: And how about the money Badger is gone no more?

585
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: There's a guy that Lions could pick up money Badger.

586
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: What happened to money Badger? Bad Camp? He's caught bad Camp.

587
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: I forget who beat him out, but he was getting

588
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: beat all all camp and um Nick Focal also got caught.

589
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: Very surprising. Erica tam posts uh favorite uh player, new player,

590
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, as my phone goes off, come on,

591
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just I mean, and that might

592
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 1: be confusing because like Eric is only into the guy

593
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: because he's a hot dude, and you would you would

594
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: think that wouldn't matter to America tamp Post, but apparently

595
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: it did. She got she fell head over heels. We

596
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: also missed like five kicks in one of the preseason games,

597
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: but they said he bounced back well firm it. So

598
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: they got they got rid of Nick Folk and uh yeah,

599
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: Tristan Viscayno, by the way, is the Chargers kicker who

600
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: just hear me out on this. Hear me out. Hear

601
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: me out. What if Bill Belichick's going crazy? And like

602
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: nobody knows yet and he's doing all these different things

603
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: like cutting Cam Newton and getting into fights with the

604
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: defensive player of the year Steph Gilmore and you know,

605
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: now this situation, what if he's going he's going mad.

606
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: It just hasn't leaked yet. Seth worker Sham is not

607
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: writing the profile until like November. That'd be pretty cool,

608
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: like mad in what way? Just like he's an old

609
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: man who just just to use some like dated like

610
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: parlance like, uh, he's losing his marbles. Yeah, he's getting

611
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: up there a little bit. Nobody wants to say anything

612
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: because he's Bill Belichick. Just is it a possibility anything? Uh?

613
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. Finally, Uh, in the News, Sean Payton uh

614
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: said that it is very possible that the Saints begin

615
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: their season on the road in Week one. They're supposed

616
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Speaker 1: to start the season at home, but Peyton said that

617
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: the Saints are leaning towards staying in doubt the Dallas

618
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: area for the next several weeks until they are able

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Speaker 1: to return home following the destruction of Hurricane Ida, and

620
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: there's a good chance they will host their Week one

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Speaker 1: game scheduled for September twelve against the Packers in Dallas

622
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Speaker 1: or elsewhere if they are unable to get back into

623
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Speaker 1: the Superdome. So we're continuing to track that. The Saints

624
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: influx again with hurricane related business now reminds me of THO. Five,

625
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: where I always give Jim Haslet a ton of props

626
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: for how he handled that situation with grace and leadership,

627
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: like leading that teams. I don't think it sounds like that.

628
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: You know, the Superdome didn't take um a lot of damage,

629
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: but the city you know, doesn't even have electricity back

630
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: in My heart kind of breaks for that, and and

631
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: the Saints thing, it's like, well, what does the say

632
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: it's really matter in the scheme of things. It's like,

633
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: it's a bummer. That is about as football mad a

634
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: place as possible, and what a good, you know, distraction

635
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: that would be in Peyton. Yeah, seem to use the

636
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: wording the first quarter of the season, um that they

637
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: would stay in Dallas. But they cannot play at Jerry

638
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: World this Sunday or in Week one rather because there's

639
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: some concert that's a conflict in the NFL now has

640
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Speaker 1: a rule that they have to play at an NFL stadium,

641
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 1: So they can't do what they did last time and

642
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Speaker 1: just like play at TCU or play some other I

643
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, So they're they're looking for uh maybe yeah,

644
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: I I have no idea what it is, but it

645
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: looks like they'll probably play too. You know, at this point,

646
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: it looks like they're planning to play to two games

647
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: not in New Orleans, and then they'll hang out. They're

648
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: gonna practice in Dallas. It looks like regardless and talk

649
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: about adding to you know, what was already gonna be

650
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: a difficult transition year for them on the field. Now

651
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: you gotta take them out of you know, their home

652
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: two weeks before the season starts. It's gonna be tough.

653
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: They Yeah, they have road games that Carolina and New

654
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: England and then they're back against the Giants October three,

655
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: which is week for another road game in a bye,

656
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: so I guess they would probably hope to return for

657
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: a Halloween game. You know, it would be the best

658
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: case scenario against the Bucks. That's the only the only

659
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: bright side is it'll be that'll be a great atmosphere

660
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: when when when they do get back. Celebration whenever it

661
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: does happen, you want to throw out some just like random.

662
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: I just wanted to. I wanted to mention one more thing,

663
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: Greg before we do that, because we had meant to

664
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: hit on it. So let's just get caught up with

665
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson situation. NFL Networks ian Rappaport reports the

666
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: Texans are not expected to trade Watson uh by the

667
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: league's four pm Eastern roster cut down deadline. That has

668
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: not happened, so he's not moving and it's sounds likely

669
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up on the fifty three man roster,

670
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: but more than Glee be inactive every week of the season,

671
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 1: at least until there's any movement on the sexual assault

672
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: allegations for more than twenty women facing the quarterback. So

673
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: we hadn't really touched on that Greg in a week

674
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: or two. That's where Watson's that. There are some reports

675
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: out there still keeps popping up with certain teams that

676
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: might be interested in a trade for Watson right now,

677
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: but as it is, right now, he is a Houston

678
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: Texas I didn't believe those those trade rumors. I I

679
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: really thought people are doing tech either the Texans or

680
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: DeShawn more likely Deshaun Watson's business, and making these reports

681
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: out to be something more than they are now. Based

682
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: on everything we know, it sounds like the Dolphins had

683
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: some level of interest at some point, and what I

684
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: think happened is that now they're pushing these reports out

685
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: like trying to push someone else to top those reports.

686
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: I just don't believe it. I don't believe a team

687
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: is going to trade for the Shawn Watson no matter

688
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: how much de Shaun Watson wants to get traded. I

689
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: just don't think as cynical as the NFL can be,

690
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it could be this cynical that they're

691
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: gonna like build like it was, getting into these weird

692
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: conditions of like well maybe they would make conditional picks

693
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: based on like how much uh you know, jail time,

694
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: not jail time he gets, but like based on how

695
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: much he was punished by the league or by what

696
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: happens in the cases, Like, come on, man, you don't

697
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: have to pass these these trial balloons on. I just

698
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: don't buy it. I don't think any other NFL team

699
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: is considering would considering it, and they're waiting for the

700
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: NFL or the legal system to act. Yeah, And I

701
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: think that's the result that we, you know, the solution,

702
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: the temporary solution that we get, uh from this whole thing,

703
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: has been the NFL acts on it. Until then, we're

704
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: kind of waiting in this gray area which allows for

705
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: these types of reports to come out and and for

706
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: this conversation to continue, when ultimately he probably should just

707
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: stay where he is off the field until we get

708
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: some sort of resolution. Right, There's there's another conversation of

709
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: like should he get paid, should have Texans have him

710
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: on his roster? This, that or the other. But the

711
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: criminal cases like really important here there's also a criminal

712
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: case with ten women. It's like, how could I don't

713
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I want to believe it

714
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: to Greg. My my honest feeling is that there is

715
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: a team or teams more likely that are monitoring this

716
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: extremely closely, and um, the only reason they're probably not

717
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: waiting into it right now and making an aggressive offer

718
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: is not the legal situation so much, but the PR

719
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: hit and the fallout that they would take from that.

720
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: So it's scaring them off. I just wonder, and I'll

721
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: use the Dolphins as an example. And I'm not saying

722
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are seriously considering it, but let's say it's

723
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: Week five and to his passer rating seventy one, you know,

724
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: like things like that with that spur action on the trademarker.

725
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: Because we know the way the legal system works with this,

726
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: it's not moving at the same speed as the season

727
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: is approaching us. So there's a good chance we'll go

728
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: deep into the season and Watson will remain in limbo.

729
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,479
Speaker 1: Is there a team that gets impatient and just says,

730
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: screw it, let's go for it and deal with the

731
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: PR fire to come, We'll see, We'll see, or the

732
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: NFL gets involved, which is so certainly something that could

733
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: happen or should happen, and puts the guy out of

734
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: the mix for the time being with an exemplist designation.

735
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: And then this isn't floating because this is on some

736
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: level a self made story by the NFL, which I

737
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: think we're all a little bit puzzled about still, but

738
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: it is what it is, right and I still I

739
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: guess you're right that that's possible. I guess I'm I

740
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: still think they're gonna wait for the police to act,

741
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: not even the civil case, but they need to have

742
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: some sort of clarity. It just doesn't make sense, all right,

743
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: do we want to now, let's get back to UH

744
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: football stuff. Anything else you guys wanted to throw out

745
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: their shook? Did you see anything that popped up that

746
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: interested you, whether it's a pup designation or a cut

747
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: or signing anything out there? Fans draft UH specifically the

748
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: tenth pick will be pleased to know that Josh Rosen

749
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: made the fifty three man roster in Atlanta. After playing

750
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: all of one game with the Falcons, he had a promotion.

751
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: He was fourth string in San Francisco. He's the backup now,

752
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: although with this whole week before the season starts, you

753
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: do um worry if you're if you are a Rosen fan,

754
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: that you could see like a transaction in two days

755
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: that he was because they found the up. But that's

756
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: why this podcast exists. So we can talk about it

757
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: now before he's gone, whatever he leaves, if it's two

758
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: days from an how or whatever. It's funny he did

759
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: play that and it wasn't like it was the greatest

760
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: half ever. I think he had a self fumble on

761
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: like the first series whatever. But um, when I the

762
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: next morning, I did not watch the game, but the

763
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: next morning, when I read what turned into like a

764
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: flowery profile about the rebirth of Josh Rosen, that was

765
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: what the gamer was, I believe on ESPN or the

766
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: Associated Press, I was like, whoa, there's something cooking here.

767
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 1: This agent deserves a raise because he went from a

768
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: total disappearing act in San Francisco to getting a puff

769
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: Sunday puff piece written about overcoming the odds here. Last night,

770
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: I think it was last night I found myself in

771
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: a quiet moment thinking about Josh Rosen and thinking about

772
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, you know, this could be the situation that

773
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: he needs to be in. You know, we don't know

774
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: that Arthur Smith is a great developer of quarterbacks, but

775
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: perhaps if he spends enough time learning from Matt Ryan,

776
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: he can develop into a similar quarterback and his career

777
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: could be worth something after all. And then I thought,

778
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: all right, where am I going? What time is it?

779
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: I gotta get all those all those chuckle heads like

780
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 1: me who like gave the Bills a bad draft grade

781
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: and loved that Cardinals moved to to cheaply move up

782
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: for Joffs. I'm sorry about that. How about how about

783
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: a little punter trade. The whole buzz this preseason was

784
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: that Johnny Hecker was not going to make the Rams

785
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: made it makes a lot of money. Uh was losing

786
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: a battle to Corey Rourke wise, I think is how

787
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: you pronounce it? Um? But no punter trade. They sent

788
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: packing over to the Packers conditional late round pick, swap

789
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: six for a seven. This guy has a bomb. I

790
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: was there for the one of the preseason games. I

791
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: watched some of the Rams preseason. Oh my gosh, he could.

792
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: He can kick it like seventies six yards. But they

793
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: kept Hecker, which should keep like the you know, there's

794
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: not many like long time Rams favorites, and so it's nice.

795
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm glad Johnny heckers Hecker got a good arm on him.

796
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: It makes you wonder what's gonna happen with J. K.

797
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: Scott and whether his most recent and perhaps most memorable

798
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: highlight will be getting juked out on a punt return.

799
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: The Packers punters like punters matter. Um, I don't know.

800
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: A good punter can really change your team. That's a

801
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 1: nice deal for the for the Packers. Here and here's

802
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: some big names that surprised me. So by the way, um,

803
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: everybody knows the Kicker Club. But a reminder but that

804
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: there is the Punters Punch Bowl Mixer. It's at the

805
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: local gymnasium and they have a bunch of balloons and yes,

806
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: a nice punch bowl in a full HOGI it's a

807
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: six ft long hog and a dance floor that plays

808
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: records mostly from the fifties. But it's all there for

809
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: the punters. Go ahead. Hecker has got a m C

810
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: that thing. He's got a lot of personality. He's been

811
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: around for He's one of the all time greatcakes at

812
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: this mixer. Yes, yes there are cupcakes of course. What else?

813
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: How about John Brown didn't make the Raiders. That surprised me.

814
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: He still looked like he could play last year. But

815
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Sometimes people are like, well that's crazy,

816
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: But sometimes like it's like you said, things change each year.

817
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: It's like sometimes the Guys Show up and suddenly they

818
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: can't play before they're just not And because the John

819
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: Brown even looked like like he would be maybe the

820
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: best or the second best receiver on the entire Raider's team,

821
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: but he didn't make the team. Uh, Jordan Howard got cut.

822
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: And then one thing I just want to play on

823
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: because we never mentioned it throughout the whole preseam, Tyler

824
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: Huntley won the backup job in Baltimore. That's no surprise

825
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: over Trace McSorley, who got cut. Um. If you watch

826
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: him play, Tyler only look good. He was kind of

827
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: the preseason MVP. I don't know if Lamar Jackson got hurt.

828
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: Ravens fans know what I'm talking about. They didn't win that.

829
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: They didn't break that record because Lamar Jackson. They broke

830
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: it because of Tyler Huntley. They might have something here

831
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: with Tyler Huntley, maybe a little like you know, Tyrod Taylor,

832
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: late round or undrafted type of guy who ends up

833
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: carving out you know, a nice a nice career like

834
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: Tyrod did when they when they found him a long

835
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: time ago. Any Packed twelve fans will remember Tyler Huntley's

836
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: days at Utah very fondly. So you know, in case

837
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: of emergency break glass, pull out the former you. I'm saying, like,

838
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: if there's another Lamar Jackson, you know, no, you better

839
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: not go on the COVID list again. But if if

840
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: he misses the game and there's like a Wednesday matinee

841
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: against the Steelers, I have I think it'll be more

842
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: watchable this year with Tyler Huntley. Yeah. Three, Um, anything

843
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: else SHOOKI No, I think that's it. Greg Now we

844
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: handled it. Tavon Austin made the jack Wars. I mean,

845
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: we're kind of at the in there. But and so

846
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: he's he's hung around pretty good for a guy that

847
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: was a first round bust. The fact that he's still

848
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: collecting paychecks is pretty good. The reason I mentioned yeah,

849
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: I wrote a debrief, you know, just kind of a

850
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: quick round up today of these and the reason was

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Speaker 1: just like, Wow, the names that he made the team

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Speaker 1: over in Jacksonville. I didn't know they were there. La

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Speaker 1: Kwan Treadwell, former first round pick, Philip door Set super

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Speaker 1: Bowl hero and former first round pick, Pharrell Cooper, former

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Speaker 1: first team All Pro. I don't know if you remember

856
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Speaker 1: Phara Colin Johnson. There's just like a lot of guys

857
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Speaker 1: over there in Jacksonville, Tavon beat him all out. Desmon

858
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Speaker 1: Trufont cut by the Bears a very steep decline for him.

859
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Speaker 1: That was that was surprising. They are really young at cornerback,

860
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Speaker 1: like the Rams have to be looking at week one,

861
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Speaker 1: feeling pretty good there and uh, finally this happened actually

862
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Speaker 1: two days ago, but let's make sure we get into

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Speaker 1: the show. The Cardinals part ways with safety Chris Banjo.

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Speaker 1: Turns out he couldn't play the guitar. Uh, this is

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Speaker 1: like Dan's moment that like Adam Schefter had where people

866
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Speaker 1: got on him for like fist bumping by breaking a

867
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Speaker 1: guy getting released and they were like, that's insensitive. We're

868
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Speaker 1: talking Cargo's secondary. My guy Malcolm Butler may retire. We

869
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Speaker 1: just don't know. So it's um a little uh strange

870
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Speaker 1: timing wise. But Mike Garifolo reported that that would that

871
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Speaker 1: would be a shame or it's something's going on there

872
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Speaker 1: that was personal that he didn't want to get into.

873
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Speaker 1: Garifolo broke this story. But they were counting on him

874
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Speaker 1: to start and gave him money to start, and that

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Speaker 1: he's been away from the team for a minute now

876
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Speaker 1: and may not may not be coming back. That would

877
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Speaker 1: be a sad way to end. I I hope he

878
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Speaker 1: comes back at some point. Come on the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: hero all right, there you go. That is a t

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Speaker 1: N guest. By the way, I missed the show somehow,

881
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Speaker 1: But do you remember, you know, you had him in

882
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Speaker 1: the studio. Who's that? Oh? Yeah, yeah, he was good.

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Speaker 1: We had a nice conversation with Malcolm. I interviewed him

884
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Speaker 1: in that locker room right after the game, and it

885
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Speaker 1: was even as a Patriots hater, he was an easy

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Speaker 1: guy to root for. And you could just see the

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Speaker 1: look in his face like he hadn't yet processed what

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Speaker 1: had happened in that game. It's legacy, you secure, he'll

889
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Speaker 1: be all right, he's the old He'll never have to

890
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Speaker 1: buy another drink again in that town. Alright, But is

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Speaker 1: that actually true? Probably not, alright. I don't know. For

892
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Speaker 1: some guys that hang around, I feel like, hey, hey, hey,

893
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Speaker 1: you know, but they'll have to buy another meal in

894
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: that town. It's one of those things everyone says and

895
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Speaker 1: does that ever. Actually, people are resentful of millionaire athletes.

896
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Speaker 1: They're like, I'm not, but yeah, you should be buying

897
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Speaker 1: me drinks. I will say Sunday night last week after

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Speaker 1: the Brown's preseason game against the Giants, I walked down

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Speaker 1: the street and who was having dinner outside with a

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Speaker 1: couple of people. Bernie Kozar cannot confirm whether he paid

901
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Speaker 1: for it or not. Now, Bernie, he's the ultimate. Don't

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have to pay m Okay, good Chuck, Thank

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Speaker 1: you buddy. And as a reminder, Nick Shook not only

904
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Speaker 1: hugely personable and an excellent physical condition, is a lifeline

905
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Speaker 1: for us on Sunday nights during the season in our

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Speaker 1: recap of every game that is played during the season.

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Speaker 1: So Shookie, you will be back with It's hard to believe, Nick,

908
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 1: but a week from Sunday we're back with our Sunday

909
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Speaker 1: Night recaps, hitting up every game that was played in

910
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Speaker 1: the week that was and looking forward to it. Nick,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy. Yeah, of course, you know. It hit

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Speaker 1: me this week with the cuts that that we're basically here,

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Speaker 1: and I'm excited for it because you know, as much

914
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Speaker 1: as I know Greg loves watching every player number nine

915
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Speaker 1: on the roster in the fourth quarter of a week

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Speaker 1: two preseason game. Come on, just go with it, Just

917
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Speaker 1: go with it. I know we're all excited to watch

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Speaker 1: the actual legitimate players for a full four quarters and

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Speaker 1: we're expecting you. We're not gonna We're probably not going

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Speaker 1: to be in the studio week one. Sounds like we

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Speaker 1: two is a more likely target. You know, they are

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Speaker 1: opening up the building. We're expecting you to commute. Nick,

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Speaker 1: I know you're in Cleveland, but yeah, you know, fly coach. Um,

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Speaker 1: let's see they'll pay. We're we're a huge operation. Now.

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Speaker 1: There's no money's too much to spend on our podcast,

926
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Speaker 1: especially in a brand new studio. You know. Yeah, apparently

927
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Speaker 1: there is tech that allows that to happen, uh seamlessly,

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Speaker 1: We're being told. Um, so we look at Oh that's

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Speaker 1: all exciting, And I apologize to Chris Banjo and his

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Speaker 1: entire family. Entering the league is an undrafted free agent

931
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Speaker 1: and here he is fighting for jobs eight years later.

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Speaker 1: Only only apologize if you if you cut it for

933
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Speaker 1: social because like the celebration dance was even even worse

934
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Speaker 1: than this sounds. It's like when um John Cena had

935
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Speaker 1: to apologize and Mandarin for saying something that offended the

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Speaker 1: people of the region. Um, all right, what okay, that's it.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back on Thursday. Unless something else crazy pops

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Speaker 1: up um. But thank you for everybody for listening until then,

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Speaker 1: heat the call sight. We have this meeting in one minute.

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Speaker 1: M