Speaker 1: And we're back with another episode of separation Anxiety. I'm
Speaker 1: your host, Marcus Jordan.
Speaker 2: And I'm Larsa Pippen.
Speaker 1: And today we're talking about a bunch of things, but overall,
Speaker 1: how you feeling.
Speaker 2: I feel great. I feel like this last couple of
Speaker 2: days has been so much fun. I feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: we're living our best lives.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's obviously it was your birthday. Now that it's
Speaker 1: all over, how you're feeling about it? You you had
Speaker 1: a good time.
Speaker 2: I had the best time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I posted the card that you gave me with the flowers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I feel like a lot of the tabloids picked
Speaker 2: that up.
Speaker 1: I haven't. I feel like, you know, it's been such
Speaker 1: a blur lately. I haven't seen it yet. So what
Speaker 1: do they say?
Speaker 2: Nothing? Do you remember what you put on a card?
Speaker 2: They were like, oh, he called her his wife?
Speaker 1: Yeah I did, I do. I mean, I tried to
Speaker 1: make it a card from all of us, you know,
Speaker 1: myself and your children, just because you know obviously they're
Speaker 1: thinking to you. But yeah, I said to the greatest
Speaker 1: mom and the best wife, Happy birthday from Marcus and Sophia,
Speaker 1: Justin Preston and Scottie Jr.
Speaker 3: And so, yeah, I mean, Coode, that was so cute.
Speaker 2: You know, you're really thoughtful. You're like a card person.
Speaker 1: I like to give multiple cards. You know. It's an
Speaker 1: acquired thing that I learned throughout my life.
Speaker 2: Who taught you that?
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody necessarily taught me that, but it's
Speaker 1: just my way, you know. I like to flood and
Speaker 1: shower people with love and gifts and praise.
Speaker 2: You know, that's okay. I love that for me. I
Speaker 2: love that for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I feel like you are very thoughtful
Speaker 1: and you give great cards. I don't know, I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, cards are like an essential thing to hold
Speaker 1: on too, and it says like where you are in
Speaker 1: a relationship, So you know, I don't know. I feel
Speaker 1: like I try to.
Speaker 2: Keep the cards, but I also take a photo of
Speaker 2: keep a photo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like a photo less better.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm terrible with my cards obviously when I read them,
Speaker 1: you know, I read them and kind of take whatever
Speaker 1: I take from them, and most of than that they
Speaker 1: end up in a drawer or a book bag or
Speaker 1: something like. Yeah, I never really go back to them,
Speaker 1: dependent on depending on who they're.
Speaker 2: From you better keep all my cards.
Speaker 1: I keep all your cards, but like you know, you
Speaker 1: really you rarely go back to like, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: Kind of why it's good to just take a photo
Speaker 2: of it and then you have it.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, Yeah for sure. So let's jump into it. Marcus,
Speaker 1: how would you describe being raised in the NBA. You know,
Speaker 1: I cherished my upbringing around the NBA. I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's we talked about this previously on the
Speaker 1: podcast that I feel like there's a lot of great
Speaker 1: habits and traits that are instilled in you being around
Speaker 1: the NBA and playing basketball coming up, and so you know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade it for the world. I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, fond memories that I have
Speaker 1: as a kid going to the games.
Speaker 2: But your dad didn't just play basketball. I feel like
Speaker 2: you've been around the game now too, because your dad
Speaker 2: still has a team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for right now. There's no telling how
Speaker 1: long that's going to be. I think they're working on
Speaker 1: a sale. But yeah, I think, you know, it teaches
Speaker 1: you good, have its good you know foundation. I feel like,
Speaker 1: but you know, there's some challenges too. You know, my
Speaker 1: dad wasn't there all the time in terms of like
Speaker 1: for every basketball game that I had. Obviously he had
Speaker 1: his own schedule. So but he did a good job
Speaker 1: of like supporting me while I was on the road,
Speaker 1: or you know, making sure he came to as many
Speaker 1: games as he's as he could. So did you miss
Speaker 1: your dad when he was away playing NBA games? You know?
Speaker 1: I think I was so young that I was doing
Speaker 1: my own thing, you know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 1: was trying to make a kid, I was being a kid.
Speaker 1: I was trying to hoop. I was just trying to
Speaker 1: like hang out with my friends, and so he was
Speaker 1: there as much as he could be. And obviously whenever
Speaker 1: he was home, he you know, we always hung out
Speaker 1: with him and stuff, and so I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just I feel like I was doing my own thing
Speaker 1: and you know, trying to hoop, and I never really
Speaker 1: even noticed how frequently he was on the road, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that like when you're when you're used
Speaker 2: to your dad being away, could be any profession, you
Speaker 2: just get used to that, you know, and you're used
Speaker 2: to your mom r the day to day. Yeah, You're
Speaker 2: used to your mom running the day to day because
Speaker 2: I feel like my kids were used to that too,
Speaker 2: And my kids were used to like living in multiple states,
Speaker 2: going to different schools, and like there's like, you know,
Speaker 2: it builds character for kids, I think when you're used
Speaker 2: to like picking up and moving or like you know,
Speaker 2: we're going to go and we're gonna move Deli for
Speaker 2: two years.
Speaker 1: We never really moved that often. I was in Chicago
Speaker 1: for all of my you know, childhood, but I think,
Speaker 1: you know, my mom being from Chicago and all of
Speaker 1: my cousins and you know, on her side of the
Speaker 1: family being in Chicago, like, we were hanging out with
Speaker 1: my mom's side of the family all the time, every weekend,
Speaker 1: and so I think that was another thing that like
Speaker 1: I cherished in my upbringing, was just how close I
Speaker 1: was with my mom's side of family. And now I
Speaker 1: think that we're older, you know, my dad's side of
Speaker 1: the family was in North Carolina, and so now that
Speaker 1: we're all getting older, we make sure to you know,
Speaker 1: reach out and hang out with my dad's side of
Speaker 1: the family too. But just naturally, because my mom is
Speaker 1: based in Chicago and we were in Chicago, we spent
Speaker 1: more time with them growing up, you know.
Speaker 3: So you have like a million first, yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 1: We've got a big family, you know, we've got a
Speaker 1: big family, and uh, you know, I love all of them.
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a it's a nice bunch
Speaker 1: in cast of characters, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Totally, totally for sure.
Speaker 1: And did I feel like I had to be the
Speaker 1: man of the house at a young age, you know,
Speaker 1: not necessarily for me, just because I grew up in
Speaker 1: I think the definition of having a silver spoon, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like my mom and you know,
Speaker 1: our support system was there from day one, so I
Speaker 1: never really had to think about leading the house or
Speaker 1: being taken charge. But you know, there were chores and
Speaker 1: tasks and things that like.
Speaker 2: You do because you still don't really pick up after something.
Speaker 1: My parents were very picky about working hard to earn
Speaker 1: what you want, you know, in terms of like so
Speaker 1: like getting good grades.
Speaker 3: You got you know, I can't even remember get rewarded.
Speaker 1: You get rewarded a hundred bucks for an A or
Speaker 1: something like that, and you get rewarded were working hard
Speaker 1: and so you know, whether it was getting in grades
Speaker 1: or I can't remember any of the chores that I
Speaker 1: had but you know, there was things my mom had
Speaker 1: us doing, taking out the trash and things like that.
Speaker 1: But now I never felt like I had to be
Speaker 1: the man and the Obviously, my brother is two years
Speaker 1: older than me, so he kind of had to suffer
Speaker 1: through the brunt of being first and going through everything,
Speaker 1: and so I got to reap the benefits of watching
Speaker 1: him and learning from his mistakes. I guess that's so
Speaker 1: cute and so Larsa. How would you describe raising kids
Speaker 1: in the NBA?
Speaker 2: I loved it. Yeah, you know, I feel like I
Speaker 2: was good at I can't handle my kids with or
Speaker 2: without my ax.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I feel like you were you know, you
Speaker 1: were talking about it or alluding to it, but you
Speaker 1: lived in different states. He obviously played for different teams,
Speaker 1: So how was that like? Picking up and moving? Did
Speaker 1: you move your entire family when.
Speaker 3: He would, yeah, get traded or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm really good at that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll be like by the way, we're packing up, And
Speaker 2: that's why I don't like, I don't worry about the
Speaker 2: small things because I feel like, since I was twenty
Speaker 2: one years old, I was so used to like, we're moving, Okay,
Speaker 2: So now I have to fly here and find a house,
Speaker 2: and I have to buy furniture, and I have to
Speaker 2: Like I was always like really hands on. I was
Speaker 2: always able to like move cross country and like set
Speaker 2: up and find my kids' schools and doctors and all
Speaker 2: that stuff. And that was all like my responsibility. That's
Speaker 2: what I did as a mom. You know, it's definitely challenging,
Speaker 2: but like I said, it builds character. Challenges are good sometimes, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Did you have to be the mom and the dad?
Speaker 2: Sometimes you feel like all the time, like I would
Speaker 2: find my kids AAU teams and I would find all
Speaker 2: that stuff. Yeah, I feel like the NBA is you know,
Speaker 2: it's a seven day a week job.
Speaker 3: It's not, it really is.
Speaker 2: You're traveling, you're exhausted, you come back home. You need,
Speaker 2: you know, to rehab.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a tight knit community though.
Speaker 2: I feel definitely a family.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, if most people know each other,
Speaker 1: you know to a degree, or you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, when you're moving across you know, if you're
Speaker 2: moving to a different team, there's so many people that
Speaker 2: are there for you, and they like welcome you and
Speaker 2: are there for you and help you like get acclimated
Speaker 2: in the city and help you in just every way.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's different the NBA community a
Speaker 1: day versus like in the late nineties early two thousands.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because little Scotty is doing it now
Speaker 2: and I feel like he's hanging out with like all
Speaker 2: the players and they invite him to dinner, and they
Speaker 2: invite him to lunch, and it's kind of like the
Speaker 2: same close knit family, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marcus, how was your NBA experience different than Larsa's kids.
Speaker 1: I think the main way that it's different, at least
Speaker 1: my upbringing is different than your kids is I grew
Speaker 1: up in that sweet spot of the late nineties early
Speaker 1: two thousands where there was no iPhones and you know,
Speaker 1: social media and so like, I kind of know what
Speaker 1: life was like before the technology boom, and I don't
Speaker 1: think your kids. I mean, how Scotti Jr. Was born
Speaker 1: in two thousand, Yeah, two thousands, so by the time
Speaker 1: he was seven, the iPhone came out, you know, and
Speaker 1: so yeah, I don't know. I think that's the main
Speaker 1: difference was that, you know, my parents are very private people,
Speaker 1: and so I was able to grow up with a
Speaker 1: very private upbringing. But I feel like NBA kids today
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have that luxury. I mean, if you look
Speaker 1: at Lebron's son, Bronnie, you know, everywhere he goes, there's
Speaker 1: cameras or you know, somebody's got something to say. Obviously
Speaker 1: you saw that they got denied at that party. It's
Speaker 1: funny because I remember, I remember those days. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember when I was a young kid, sixteen seventeen years old,
Speaker 1: trying to get into whatever party was popping or whatever.
Speaker 1: And so I don't know. I think, you know, we
Speaker 1: had the luxury, at least me and my siblings to
Speaker 1: keep our anonymity and still maneuver through certain situations. And
Speaker 1: I feel like NBA kids today they don't necessarily have
Speaker 1: that luxury.
Speaker 2: I think it depends where you live. Yeah, city, what
Speaker 2: city you play for. You know, if you're in LA,
Speaker 2: I think everything is magnified.
Speaker 1: It's definitely.
Speaker 2: You're in New York, you're in LA, you're in Miami,
Speaker 2: it's different. I think Chicago is definitely more low key,
Speaker 2: and I think the culture in Chicago is definitely more
Speaker 2: low key, Like that's just the upbringing. Like my parents
Speaker 2: don't like flash people in Chicago don't really like the
Speaker 2: flashy lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like Chicago
Speaker 1: is like it's its own yeah culture, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: And I feel like, you know, you could be like
Speaker 2: super successful in Chicago and you would never know because
Speaker 2: people there don't need to show their success. Yeah for sure,
Speaker 2: whereas others, you know, other places. I feel like it's
Speaker 2: definitely like people drive fancy your cars and different places
Speaker 2: and they're broke. Yeah, so sometimes, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I think it's really good to like be in a
Speaker 2: place where like it doesn't really matter what you have,
Speaker 2: and it's like the good things you know that really
Speaker 2: matters matter.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. What do you think is different about
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you don't know anything about my upbringing,
Speaker 1: but what do you think the difference is today for
Speaker 1: NBA families versus thirty years ago?
Speaker 2: Well, I just feel like you really can't like your
Speaker 2: kids are your kids are going to see everything that
Speaker 2: you do. Yeah, it's hard to avoid, you know, the
Speaker 2: NBA trials and tribulations, you know, because your kids are
Speaker 2: very much a part of Like I mean, look what
Speaker 2: happened us or your dad said one thing and it
Speaker 2: was everywhere. Yeah, and I had five thousand calls over that.
Speaker 2: So I feel like in today's world, it's just like
Speaker 2: if your parent is in the NBA, your parent has
Speaker 2: to know like whatever they do on and off the
Speaker 2: court is going to be did school you know? Was
Speaker 2: it Chris Paul that was talking about his son or
Speaker 2: his daughter? Somebody said something to them at school? I
Speaker 2: just you know, I think it's harder when social media's
Speaker 2: really destroyed so many lives. Yes, it's like I love it.
Speaker 2: It's like a curse and a blessing, but like it's
Speaker 2: definitely got some you know, a little bit of curse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, that's the pros and cons for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are your beige flags? So a beage flag is
Speaker 1: something that's neither good nor bad, but makes you pause
Speaker 1: for a minute when you notice it, but you still
Speaker 1: continue the relationship. So tell me what's like a beige
Speaker 1: flag for you?
Speaker 2: You go first.
Speaker 1: I feel like a beige flag for me is like,
Speaker 1: and I've talked about it before, my biggest pet peeve
Speaker 1: is somebody not knowing how to chew their food or smacking,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: And so is that really like a no, I feel
Speaker 2: like it has to be a little deeper, Marcus. It
Speaker 2: can't be just be like something so superficial. Nah, I
Speaker 2: feel like, can't you can't you fix that someone eats?
Speaker 2: Can't you be like, hey, close your mouth while you're chewing.
Speaker 1: No, A lot of people can't fix that because you
Speaker 1: innately go back to I feel like, what you're comfortable with.
Speaker 1: And so for me, I think that's a bag flag.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna notice it. I'm gonna pause. I'm going to consider,
Speaker 1: you know, what, what move do I want to take next?
Speaker 1: But no, I think that's a base flag for me.
Speaker 1: What would you? What's an example for you?
Speaker 2: I feel like if someone isn't good with money?
Speaker 3: True, I like that because I feel like.
Speaker 2: If like you're going to be with someone as a partner,
Speaker 2: you want to make sure that they're responsible and they
Speaker 2: know how to navigate through life in a responsible type
Speaker 2: of way. Yeah, because there's so many people that I
Speaker 2: know that go into relationships and then they find out
Speaker 2: that their spouse is in debt. Yeah, that is the
Speaker 2: worst situation you could be in.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. I'll give you another one. I
Speaker 1: think a bage flag is someone that can't manage their
Speaker 1: time properly.
Speaker 2: Oh, I agree.
Speaker 1: You know someone that like goes out all.
Speaker 2: The time and doesn't handle their responsibilities. Yeah that's horrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good one. Like, you know,
Speaker 1: partying all the time, wants to go out and be
Speaker 1: in the social scene all the time, but isn't really
Speaker 1: making progress in their personal life or in business.
Speaker 2: So you have to grow. I feel like you have
Speaker 2: to grow as a person and like, don't do the
Speaker 2: same things you were doing last year. Every year should
Speaker 2: be like a new, better version of yourself.
Speaker 1: You know. Would a base flag be if you're having
Speaker 1: sex with a guy and he keeps his socks on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's annoying.
Speaker 1: It's annoying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, that's annoying.
Speaker 1: So it socks off.
Speaker 2: Definitely socks off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like everything. I feel like everything as
Speaker 1: of we all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not about the song or eventually off.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Would it be like if you were with the woman
Speaker 2: that had a hairy like situation?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Eve.
Speaker 2: With a woman of the hairy situation.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's you know, there's two guys like
Speaker 1: variety out there in terms of you guys like.
Speaker 2: That, because I feel like when I've seen stuff like that,
Speaker 2: I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like for me personally, there's been phases,
Speaker 1: you know, like it doesn't necessarily completely turn me off,
Speaker 1: but everything's got to be well kept, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You gotta be well groomed.
Speaker 2: You can't be the runway's gotta be.
Speaker 1: You can't be looking like the sixties and seventies out.
Speaker 2: Here, like like not the vine.
Speaker 1: You gotta gotta keep it clean down there, for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, So when you start dating someone, when can you
Speaker 1: start being yourself?
Speaker 2: So I feel like there's like the phase of like
Speaker 2: we're both going to pretend like we're perfect, okay, and
Speaker 2: you say this, you say all the right things even
Speaker 2: though you don't mean them, okay, and then but I
Speaker 2: think like after like four months, the first three months
Speaker 2: is like hocus pocus. Yeah, yeah, I think the first like,
Speaker 2: you know, the first thirty days, you're basically both acting
Speaker 2: like everything is great and I don't care if you
Speaker 2: talk to other people, and I don't care if you
Speaker 2: go out and I don't care. So it's like you're,
Speaker 2: you know, you're pretending this and that. But I think
Speaker 2: like the later part of that, so after thirty days,
Speaker 2: maybe it's sixty days it's sixty day mark. I feel
Speaker 2: like you start like setting boundaries. Okay, I mean like
Speaker 2: you know, I don't like when you do that, and
Speaker 2: I don't like when you do that, And then there's
Speaker 2: like nine months into the relationship where you start questioning,
Speaker 2: like do I really want to be with this person? Okay,
Speaker 2: do we have enough in common? Can we get through
Speaker 2: the hurdles? But I feel like for me, a year
Speaker 2: to be with someone as a long time, like a year,
Speaker 2: I need to make a decision. I'm not one of
Speaker 2: those people. I have friends that literally will waste three
Speaker 2: years in every relationship and then realize he's not the guy.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you could have just asked me. I
Speaker 2: would have told you you wasn't the guy, by the way,
Speaker 2: Like I could have saved you so much heartache, and
Speaker 2: like furniture and like they'll move in together and they'll
Speaker 2: play house and at the same time, like one person
Speaker 2: wants to have a baby and the other person doesn't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: or one person is like.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm always a version of myself even
Speaker 1: when I start dating, Like I don't know, I've always
Speaker 1: like maneuvered into a relationship, like wanting to be myself
Speaker 1: at the core, just because I feel like at some
Speaker 1: point the layers are going to peel back, and if
Speaker 1: you're not being authentic, then you know you're gonna be exposed,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: So really that's a very mature way of approaching it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I know, if you're not rocking with me
Speaker 1: from the beginning, then most often then that you're out
Speaker 1: of there. You know.
Speaker 2: I feel like people are in different places, right, So
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of times people bring their
Speaker 2: insecurities and other stuff that they've experienced in their old
Speaker 2: relationship into their new relationship.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: So sometimes you kind of have to go in and like,
Speaker 2: you know, lay it all out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you know, at what point do you start
Speaker 1: letting loose, like, for example, using the bathroom with the
Speaker 1: door open or something like that. Never, I know, I
Speaker 1: feel like you are so guarded with something with stuff
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: We just talked about this yesterday. One of the cast
Speaker 2: members on our show was talking about how she likes
Speaker 2: to poop like with her husband. That's insane, Like that
Speaker 2: is so disgusting to me.
Speaker 1: Like there, I feel like I've gone to the other
Speaker 1: side of the house, Like I'll leave the whole house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're readily right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't talk to me more about that.
Speaker 1: They use the bathroom side by.
Speaker 2: Side kind of yeah, or like one person will be
Speaker 2: going to the bathroom number two and they're the person
Speaker 2: will be in the bathroom. But like for me, I
Speaker 2: can't even pee without the water running.
Speaker 1: I know, that's so funny to me. I think I just.
Speaker 2: Don't like that. I don't know, that's like too too
Speaker 2: close for comfort.
Speaker 1: I think at first, when we first started, I was
Speaker 1: making sure, like you know that when I peed, I
Speaker 1: had the door closed. I feel like I've maybe relaxed
Speaker 1: a little bit on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no you have.
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't.
Speaker 2: Like to be that comfortable with anybody. By the way,
Speaker 2: I agree, I don't get that comfortable with me.
Speaker 1: I don't Number one is okay, I want Number two
Speaker 1: is you need to do that?
Speaker 2: And like even number one, you're sitting on a toilet.
Speaker 3: It's nasty cute for you you're sitting on you know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean like for me, it's not cute.
Speaker 1: I feel that. I feel that, And so what is
Speaker 1: your toxic trait?
Speaker 2: I learned this from one of my really good friends
Speaker 2: back in the day. I feel like if you really
Speaker 2: want to know what someone's about or on, you got
Speaker 2: to kind of go through their phone. It's a toxic trait.
Speaker 3: I'm not advising a toxic trade.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not advising this for everyone because be prepared.
Speaker 2: It might be ugly, it might be traumatizing. But I
Speaker 2: definitely like to look through I don't like to look
Speaker 2: through like my kids phones or my girlfriend's phones. I
Speaker 2: don't friends that love to go through other people's phones.
Speaker 3: I'm not like that.
Speaker 2: I literally had my boobs reduced and I had a
Speaker 2: girlfriend take me to get my to get my surgery.
Speaker 2: When I woke up, I was trying to get on
Speaker 2: my phone and I was blocked out of my phone
Speaker 2: for over an hour because she tried to get into
Speaker 2: the phone. That many times.
Speaker 1: See, I think that's there's something there's some wrong with that.
Speaker 2: That's definitely there's definitely something wrong with that.
Speaker 1: So that's your toxic trade, is that you know, when
Speaker 1: you're with somebody, I.
Speaker 2: Want to go to their phone. I want to see
Speaker 2: what you're about. I want because people people like show
Speaker 2: you a version of them, but not their entire thing.
Speaker 2: And I like to know what I signed up for.
Speaker 1: That's true. I guess that's true, and it's.
Speaker 2: Fine, and I'm willing to take whatever is on there.
Speaker 1: But just that's you talk about a dangerous name. I
Speaker 1: think that's a dangerous game to be for somebody's phone
Speaker 1: because you got to be anything and everything at that point.
Speaker 2: It's fine.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, people today keep so much
Speaker 1: stuff in their phone.
Speaker 2: That's why you want to go through it, ladies, That's
Speaker 2: why you want to.
Speaker 3: Go through it.
Speaker 1: That's your trade. I feel like I've never I've never
Speaker 1: asked to go through your phone.
Speaker 2: I'm not really the someone. I was doing someone a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and I would go to sleep
Speaker 2: and he would unfollow everyone from Instagram.
Speaker 1: Now that's wild. You've told me that before.
Speaker 2: That's he literally is like texting my dad, my kids,
Speaker 2: DM me everyone and just being like I want to
Speaker 2: talk to you about your daughter. And that was kind
Speaker 2: of a lot.
Speaker 1: That is sounds like that sounds like way too much.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, I don't know what your relationship.
Speaker 2: Maybe I picked up their toxic traits.
Speaker 1: I don't know that's what that's what it is other people.
Speaker 2: But look, I feel like if you want to be
Speaker 2: in a relationship, you have to be honest and open
Speaker 2: with people, and like a lot of times people don't
Speaker 2: like that honesty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like in previous relationships to my exes
Speaker 1: or whatever, I have wanted to go through my phones.
Speaker 1: And so maybe that's what's turned me off of like
Speaker 1: trying to go through somebody else's phone, because I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, you either with me or you not. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't need to listen.
Speaker 2: I want to see your phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, we got the same pass code
Speaker 1: on our phones. Yeah, I don't think we can say
Speaker 1: what obviously we're not gonna say what it is, but
Speaker 1: I think you know, yeah, I'm not afraid for you
Speaker 1: to go through my phone.
Speaker 2: I know. I like, I like going through your phone.
Speaker 1: Maybe one of these days I'll go through your phone.
Speaker 2: You go through my phone.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through that. Only fans see what's popping
Speaker 1: on there as.
Speaker 2: You should, as you should very transparent and open with
Speaker 2: my life.
Speaker 1: And so the next question is have either of you
Speaker 1: ghosted someone.
Speaker 2: I've definitely, I've definitely ghosted some people too.
Speaker 1: I mean guys and girls, everybody can get it. Terms
Speaker 1: of getting.
Speaker 2: Ghosted totally, you know, for sure. I feel like when
Speaker 2: you're talking to a lot of people and then you
Speaker 2: meet someone that you like, and then you have to
Speaker 2: start ghost you have to start unloading some of the roster.
Speaker 2: It's like too many people on your team.
Speaker 1: Have you ever gone on a date, like met somebody
Speaker 1: and you know, not necessarily hooked up, but like had
Speaker 1: a vibe y'all, you know, party to the wee Morning
Speaker 1: of the Hours or something like that, and then just
Speaker 1: all reduces, never talked to them, never sell them again. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I've done that a lot too. Because then
Speaker 1: there's also certain times, like you're at a party or
Speaker 1: an event, festival or something like you might catch a
Speaker 1: vibe like a weekend or yeah it could be it's
Speaker 1: not you don't take that back into your personal life.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think that happens a lot.
Speaker 1: And also I feel like a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: given who I am and my dad, people love my dad, right,
Speaker 1: and so I feel like every time we're out, I
Speaker 1: always get at least five people that come up to
Speaker 1: me and say, oh, you know, I met your dad here,
Speaker 1: or a lot of you know, there's always somebody has
Speaker 1: a Michael Jordan's story, you know, and so there's been
Speaker 1: time where you know, I'll hear people start you know,
Speaker 1: I listen to everybody, but if depending on what the
Speaker 1: story's about, you might end up getting ghosted, just because,
Speaker 1: like you.
Speaker 2: Know, if it's a guy you're saying, if.
Speaker 1: It's a guy, I feel like, you know, sometimes people
Speaker 1: come up with business deals or want to talk about
Speaker 1: certain things and it's like, you know, know the time
Speaker 1: in the place, and sometimes if it's the wrong place,
Speaker 1: then all right, I'm probably gonna ghosts due.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean, sometimes you're not going to
Speaker 2: get along with everyone. Yeah, that's the moral story.
Speaker 1: Definitely ghost with some women too. I think you know,
Speaker 1: my Instagram following count is getting lower and lower and lower.
Speaker 2: By the day, as it should as it should.
Speaker 1: Definitely doing some housekeeping.
Speaker 2: It's good.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been ghosted? How about that?
Speaker 2: I don't, I mean a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you think it was a guy.
Speaker 2: Not like ghosted, but like I feel like when you
Speaker 2: tell people like how it is, I think people can't
Speaker 2: take it sometimes when they get mad and then they
Speaker 2: ghost you.
Speaker 1: I think there's probably been a couple of times I've
Speaker 1: been ghosted too. I can't recall any right now, but
Speaker 1: you know, shoot or shoot every shot doesn't go in,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, should we head over
Speaker 1: to the block party.
Speaker 2: Yes, let's invite someone to our blog party.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it. Comment number one from
Speaker 1: social media says, prenup listen to Kanye Hm.
Speaker 2: I mean I think I definitely believe in a prenup.
Speaker 1: I think so too. I think we both do. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it just makes things easier. You know, you
Speaker 2: don't want to have that.
Speaker 1: Like prenups can get crazy though.
Speaker 2: I mean it's fine, they can't get crazy, but at
Speaker 2: least there's like a common ground. Yeah, there's like a
Speaker 2: common place where people can meet, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: it makes sense.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's ever been a situation where a
Speaker 1: prenup has ruined the relationship?
Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure.
Speaker 1: I think so too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think if you, like, if I marry
Speaker 2: you and you have like a billion dollars, yeah, and
Speaker 2: you say, by the way, I'm only going to give
Speaker 2: you one hundred thousand after twenty years, You're.
Speaker 3: Like, wait, what I mean?
Speaker 2: It has to be fair. Everything in life has to
Speaker 2: be fair.
Speaker 1: Look, I think it goes back to what we talked about.
Speaker 1: If you sign on the dog on the dotted line,
Speaker 1: there's no amendments at all, and so I think I
Speaker 1: think there was. We we talked about it maybe previously,
Speaker 1: but there was a couple that had a weight clause
Speaker 1: in their preno where I guess if the woman was
Speaker 1: to go over one hundred and thirty five pounds at
Speaker 1: the during the course of their relationship, then I think
Speaker 1: it was a five hundred thousand dollars penalty per pound
Speaker 1: over one thirty five.
Speaker 2: What would you do that to me?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm you know, I don't rule anything out
Speaker 1: of a preno, but I thought that was I thought
Speaker 1: that was kind of that was kind of gangster. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I mean, they have cheating ones also, just.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know, anything is fair game. You
Speaker 1: sign on that doubted line, you sign on the deaded line, And.
Speaker 2: I think it has to be practical, like you have
Speaker 2: to be practical, you know, and you have to be fair. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but are there just to protect everyone? I don't feel
Speaker 2: like it's you know, I signed a prenup when I
Speaker 2: first got married and it just dissolved. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: feel like that was that was fair, you know, I
Speaker 2: feel that.
Speaker 1: So that's the first comment, we're blocking that person. The
Speaker 1: next one is honestly waiting for you guys to break
Speaker 1: up so I can treat her right. I need to
Speaker 1: use a name for whoever left this comment.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you treat me amazing, So I
Speaker 2: am not going anywhere your times soon.
Speaker 1: Thank you, baby. No, I think that's funny. I think
Speaker 1: you know, that's at the whole root of this podcast
Speaker 1: and separation anxiety. I think, you know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people that don't necessarily want us to win or
Speaker 1: just are confused about our relationship, and so I think
Speaker 1: that's part of what contributes to our separation anxieties, you know,
Speaker 1: comments like this.
Speaker 2: So I also feel like making up narratives, Yeah, I feel.
Speaker 1: Like that happens a lot too, But I feel like
Speaker 1: that comes with the territory, you know, being in the
Speaker 1: public eye, there's always going to be people that make
Speaker 1: up stories, want to chase stuff.
Speaker 2: For clout, I will say that I feel like since
Speaker 2: we've been together, like people that follow me probably look
Speaker 2: at your page, and people that follow you probably look
Speaker 2: at my page.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I agree with that. I feel
Speaker 1: like anybody that was on my page is probably we're
Speaker 1: already looking at your page.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think sometimes.
Speaker 1: There's definitely I think we I know.
Speaker 2: Girls that post their boyfriends and don't even tag them.
Speaker 2: What do you think about that? Uh, because they think
Speaker 2: girls are going to like slide into their damn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that. I mean,
Speaker 1: does that go both ways? So then does the guy
Speaker 1: post the girl but not tag her?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I guess.
Speaker 1: I guess if it's both ways and that's what you
Speaker 1: know is fine in that relationship, then I don't have
Speaker 1: any issue with it. I don't know, I've never really
Speaker 1: like I feel like we do a good job of
Speaker 1: tagging each other and posting. I feel like my entire
Speaker 1: feed is you.
Speaker 3: No same iname, So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know, I think we're doing it the right way
Speaker 2: for us.
Speaker 1: And I feel like people that don't have as much
Speaker 1: notoriety can get away with stuff like that. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't think if I don't
Speaker 1: tag you in one of my posts, people still don't
Speaker 1: know who you are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, you know, Yeah, it doesn't work for us.
Speaker 1: But whoever's waiting for us to break up, we're blocking, y'all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: read the.
Speaker 2: Next one, baby, Oh my god, she has the nerves
Speaker 2: to put on Jordan's thoughts on that. You know, I
Speaker 2: used to only wear designer sneakers. Yeah, And I feel
Speaker 2: like I went through my Nike phase when I was
Speaker 2: with my ex and I had like a whole closet
Speaker 2: full of Nike, right, and then I only wanted to
Speaker 2: wear like Channel sneakers and like do you or and
Speaker 2: like Louis Vuitton. And then since we got together, I
Speaker 2: feel like, now you've converted me to Jordan's.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely making sure I get your closet full of Jay's.
Speaker 1: But I think more so you know less about you
Speaker 1: wearing Jordan's and more so you being comfortable, because I
Speaker 1: do remember you saying you've warned some of those designer
Speaker 1: sneakers and you're not happy with how you know they're
Speaker 1: cutting up your ankles and they don't.
Speaker 2: I used to bleed for fashion.
Speaker 1: There you go. And so I feel like Jordan's. You know,
Speaker 1: they're more comfortable, They're stylish and comfortable, and there's technology
Speaker 1: in those things.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I agree with you.
Speaker 1: It's all about comfortable. I think like you look great
Speaker 1: in jays Babe, thank you. You do you know how
Speaker 1: a rock?
Speaker 2: Thank you. I feel like they fit really comfortable. And
Speaker 2: I used to literally feel like when I was in sneakers.
Speaker 2: I think, if you're putting on sneakers, they have to
Speaker 2: be comfortable or why else would you wear them?
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, And I.
Speaker 2: Was going through a phase where only more like designer
Speaker 2: sneakers which make zero suense. By the way, you converting
Speaker 2: me to Jay's.
Speaker 1: I got you back on team Nike, you.
Speaker 2: Jordan, that's where.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. Yeah, I think that's a wrap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys, thank you so much for spending time
Speaker 2: with us. We love you. We're sending you.
Speaker 1: Lots of love, definitely, and make sure you follow us
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Speaker 2: It sounds great. Bie guys.
Speaker 1: Peace