1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, there was a dent in the right front bumper, 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: and you could see where the dent lined up. It 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: perfectly was in line where the porn wasn't that lower 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: right hand corner of the front fender on the passenger 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: side of the car Doctor. The days of not diagnosing 6 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: a problem are over because I'm seeing more and more 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: where the shops that are out there posing, pretending to 8 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: be mechanics and not diagnosing are coming out with a 9 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: laundry list of here's what the Carnians. Welcome to the 10 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and an Ian the Car Doctor, 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If you're mechanics, 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 15 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five five five 16 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: six and now running. Hey, come on in Swerdam, I'm 17 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: run on any of the car doctor here at eight 18 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero, here 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: to take your calls and answer your questions, whatever they 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: might be about your automobile. Eight five five zero nine 21 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. A little busy this hour. I can 22 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: see the phone banks already backed up and lit up 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: judging by the number of calls that are coming in. 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: So if you do get a busy signal, please, by 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: all means leave a message at eight five five zero 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero and fast Harry. We'll call you 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: back either during later on this hour or during the 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: course of the week and set you up for the 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: next time. We're live on the air on the network 30 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: Saturdays two to four pm Eastern time, and um you 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: can expect the call and expect to be on the 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: air uh sometime during those two hours. But as always, 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: we're here nowaday zero nine nine zero zero. We'd like 34 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: to try and talk to you live if we can, 35 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: but I've got to tell you the phones are very, 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: very very busy this afternoon. There's a lot going on 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: this hour. We got them a couple of interesting people 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: to talk to. We're going to be giving away a 39 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: dens O Spring tune up kit this hour, consisting of 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: dense who are ridy um T T spark plugs and 41 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: air filter wiper blades, and we all know that you 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: want to get a chance to try those dens O 43 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: Lady um T T spark plugs made with their patent patented. 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: I can't say that the patented, the patented, the patented 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: A ridium alloy. Pronunciation is very important in radio. One 46 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: of the first things I learned at the Catholic School 47 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: of Radio hard knocks. Yes, I can see my professor 48 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: at the current moment is about to scold me. Yes, sir, No, no, no, 49 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: just remind us next week we'll change the batteries and 50 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: your tongue before you get on the air. Oh is 51 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: that what it was? I knew something was cockut um 52 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: but um. In any event, we're gonna be giving away 53 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: a dens O spring tuna package this hour. But we 54 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: do want to take your calls and answer your questions, 55 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: because that's what this radio shows all about. Some quick 56 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: commentary if I can real fast. I had a conversation 57 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: at the chiropractor this morning. Um. They were talking about 58 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: dead batteries and they wanted to know, you know, how 59 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: many customers at the shop had dead batteries with the 60 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: recent cold snap that was here in the Northeast. And 61 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: I I thought about it, and I said, you know, none, 62 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: And they said, how's that possible? And I said, you 63 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: know what, if we're doing our job we start in September, 64 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: and if we're doing our job, by the time December 65 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: and January roll around, everybody's battery has been tested and replaced. 66 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: We have very few failures. And I said, why, what's 67 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: the curiosity? They were telling me about a patient that 68 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: had a recent problem where the battery went dead and 69 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: Triple A did not want to send out the service 70 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: truck because it was so cold. They were fearful of 71 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: the service tech getting frostbite working on the vehicle out 72 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: in the snow, to which I said, well, Triple A 73 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: wants to be in the battery business, let the guy 74 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: change the battery regardless of the weather. Why should you 75 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: have the option to pick and choose. But it did 76 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: bring up an interesting point, and I have been reading 77 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: this of late, and I suppose we could have a 78 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: conversation with Triple A to get to the bottom of it. 79 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm hearing that Triple A batteries on average don't last 80 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: what regular batteries last, and I'm starting to observe that, 81 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: and that it seems that a lot of the replacements 82 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 1: are in the two to three, three, maybe to four 83 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: year range, not necessarily a five or six year range. 84 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: On batteries, and it makes me think, well, I guess 85 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: they're not power frame grid technology and we all know 86 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: that that's the best. But it makes me wonder what 87 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: it is they're selling. And I guess they're trying to 88 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: be cost competitive and sell something economical for another fancy 89 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: way of saying cheap. But um, maybe not working quite 90 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: that well. But I'm surprised to hear they wouldn't send 91 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: somebody out. But the bottom line is, if you are 92 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: taking proper care of your car and the repair shop 93 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: is testing that battery going into the cold weather, then 94 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have that problem and be stuck on the 95 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: side of the road, which I don't think anybody should 96 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: ever have a dead battery unless you left something on. 97 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: So anyway, that's my opening, rent opening conversation. I want 98 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: to get to the phone because they're just crazy, backed 99 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: up and busy. Let's get over and talk to Kenny 100 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: from of all places, Walter, New Jersey. Kenny, you're on 101 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: with the car doctor, sir, How can I help? Hi? Yeah? Hi, um, 102 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: I have a question. I have a two thousand eleven 103 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: and having some trouble with the charging system at this point. Uh, 104 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: the Typal module had gone bad last year. I sent 105 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: it out to a I have a company how to rebuild. 106 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: Came back car rank right for a year, and it's 107 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: just crapped out again. I'm getting a no charging situation 108 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know if the voltage regulator is inside 109 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: the tip of module or inside the e c U. 110 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: But I have changed the alternator and change the battery 111 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: and I still have no charge conditions. Okay, so let 112 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 1: me ask you this, Kenny, what sort of fault codes 113 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: are you getting out of the vehicle? Well, I mean, 114 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm getting all kinds of check engine lights. I don't 115 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: have a scan tool on my own where I can 116 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: pull a code. I don't have any skin pull tooever, 117 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: and just go by feel. Okay. VOLTA well, because volter 118 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: regulator really shouldn't be part of TIPPA module. VOLTA regulator 119 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: is more towards PCM. PCM is what's going to be 120 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: the control for charge rate. I mean, I'm sure some 121 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: of the circuitry off the top of my head does 122 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: go through tip UM, but the major responsibility comes back 123 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: to PCM. The decisions have to be made there as 124 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: far as um. You know what should charge and what 125 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: not should charge? Um, so you know, first step is 126 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: I need to know what scant what code is there, 127 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: because that's gonna tell me where the module laws or 128 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: where the problem lies in. What module? Does that make sense? Um? 129 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: I don't see a tip of module being part of it. 130 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: Tipoms are responsible for a lot. That's one of the 131 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: things that are not responsible for. Okay, now, um, is 132 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: it possible to change that without having to flash? Nope, 133 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to. That's gonna require if if it 134 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: is a bad PCM. And I'm not saying it's a 135 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: bad PCM. Your question was who's got the authority, who's 136 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: got who's got the decision? The decision making falls into PCM. 137 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: If the PCM does have to be replaced, it will 138 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: have to be flashed unless you find even if you 139 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: find a module what am I saying, Even if you 140 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: find a module used for the exact vent of the vehicle, 141 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: you would still have to have the VN flashed into 142 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: that PCM as well. So it's not something that can 143 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: easily be done. Cars got complicated in the last five years. Yeah, 144 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: well I know I can't. I'm kind of locked out 145 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: of it. I can't. Yep, And and the average repair 146 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: shop has difficulty handling. I'll have to tell you we 147 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: had We had Chrysler capability up through twode year. Just 148 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: last year Chrysler made it so cost prohibitive. I have 149 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: not renewed the subscription yet, and it's a business decision. 150 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: I can't decide if I want to simply because of 151 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: what Chrysler is putting everybody through. I will say this, 152 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: there is a bright spot in the sense that Chrysler 153 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: is now struggling, but they are supposed to join the 154 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: protocol where they will allow independent repair shops using what 155 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: we call jour which is another device other than dealer 156 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: level tool to communicate at dealer level. Chrysler is one 157 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: of the last car companies to to adhere to this. 158 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: But sometime they're saying later in the fall of this 159 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: year or by the end of Chrysler should be there, 160 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: so it will get easier to find an independent repair 161 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: shop that has capability, which is one of the reasons 162 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: as a business owner, I'm not spending right now. How 163 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: many cars am I going to do in the next 164 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: seven months? Doesn't make sense? Right? All right? Sir? Okay, 165 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: thanks for help. You're very welcome, Kenny, good luck to you. 166 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: Let's get on over real quick. Can we talk to 167 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: Bill and seventy four Dodge Charger and see what we 168 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: can do here? Hey Bill, Hey, Hey Ron? How are 169 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: you doing? Good? Sir? What's going on? Okay? I just 170 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: had a quick question for you. I picked up it 171 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: doesn't burn any oil or anything like that. But with 172 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: with so many different types of oils and additives and 173 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: synthetics these days, I just curious what would be the 174 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: best oil to use it an older engine like that 175 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: driven racing oil. It used to be Joe Gibbs, all right, 176 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: And and the reason I say it's the best I 177 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: did the research for the hot rod. You know. I'm 178 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: sure you've seen a picture of that or two flying 179 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: around the website, but I did. I did the research 180 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: for the hot rod. It was Joe Gibbs racing oil 181 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: at the time, and then they became driven racing oil. 182 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: You'll find it on the web under either name. I 183 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: can't think of the guy's name that we actually had 184 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: on the show a couple of times. He is like 185 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: an oil eologist. This guy knows everything about motor oil 186 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: and about how to mix it, how to blend it, 187 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: what to do for it. And if you call their 188 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: tech line, I think you'll end up speaking to him. 189 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: We'll get his name up after we come back from 190 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: the pause. But if you call their tech line and 191 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: ask them what they're lake Speed Junior, there you go. 192 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: I knew it was something on Lake Speed Junior. If 193 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: you google Lake Speed Junior, you'll come to the company 194 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: which is driven racing oil, and you, in all honesty, 195 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: you can probably pick up the phone talk to techline. 196 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: You'll end up talking to Lake tell him what you've 197 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: got and he'll tell you what's the best oil they 198 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: have in their catalog. But they seem to be one 199 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: of the very few companies out there that is blending 200 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: oil to meet specific requirements, and they're doing it very successfully. 201 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: Because I understand the old the older engines head zinking, 202 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: I mean the all the oils head zinc right, correct, 203 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: And they don't have that anymore. That's why I didn't 204 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: want to ruin the engine, right yeah, yeah, but that's 205 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: what you want. That's where I would go if it 206 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: were mine. Okay, sounds good. I appreciate it, right, all right, Bill, 207 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: thank you very much. You're very welcome, sir. You take 208 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: good care of Morton and the Car Doctor. We'll be 209 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: back right after this. Welcome back. We're on Anie in 210 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor rolling along this hour at zero nine 211 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: zero zero. By the way, get out to Facebook and 212 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor Facebook page. We just got a fresh 213 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: video up there. We've got a bunch of fresh videos. 214 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: Our latest is the video of the audio, if I 215 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: can say it like that. When Big Jim Mouchette stopped 216 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: by the shop this week to uh, he actually made 217 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: a very nice presentation to me, a drawing of the 218 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: hot rod which is hanging here in the studio, and um, 219 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: Jim actually stopped and we talked him a little bit 220 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: about his inspiration and it's just it's a great video. 221 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: You can see the talent just come off the screen. 222 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: But you know how he'll draw a conceptual drawing of 223 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: an automobil. You bring him a a plane Jaine six cylinder, 224 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: two door chavel, you know what color you wanted to be, 225 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: what kind of wheels, you know, artwork, different body modifications. 226 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: He'll draw it and you can actually see the car 227 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: before you go through the expense of building it and 228 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: decide what works from a visual appearance. Very interesting, very 229 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: very interesting concept what he's got going on and just 230 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: just some very very nice stuff that he's got there. 231 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: And I think it's Big Jim's Art dot Com if 232 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: I remember the website correctly, so you can get out 233 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: there as well and see it. If I'm wrong, I'm 234 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: sure Tom and Tony are gonna correct me in about 235 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: three minutes. So Big Jim's Art dot Com I believe 236 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: it is. Anyway, let's get on over the line. One 237 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: talk to Dennis in Denville, New Jersey, two thousand to 238 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: Toyota to comma, Dennis, you're on with the car doctor, sir? 239 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: How can I help? How are you doing? What's going on? 240 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: I got a two thousand and two Toyota Tacoma. What 241 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: it used about a year ago? Cars in great shape, 242 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: but always had a rough idol. I took it to 243 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: the local mechanic is the plugs and the mass air cleaning, 244 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: and says he can't find anything. Took it over to Toyota. 245 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: Toyota happened to find that the frame was gone, so 246 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: they replaced the frame, but I still have the rough idol. 247 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: Back to Toyota and they say that everything appears to 248 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: be normal. How how rough of a rough idol? Uh? 249 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: You notice it? When you're in in drive at a 250 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: red light, the engine starts to shake, the hood starts 251 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: to shake. You can see the aerial vibrating. Just a 252 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: little vibration and a little little frottle on the gas 253 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: while the foots on the brake. We'll get rid of it. 254 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: And it's there's no check engine light on right down. Well, 255 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: actually the check engine light has just come on and 256 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: got a cat converter efficiency. Right. I've replaced the oxygen 257 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: sensor and then uh, the light came back on. Brought 258 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: it to mechanic. The mechanic gut a p O WON 259 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: three six. He put a new catalytic in it and 260 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: the light came back on. Now he wants to replace 261 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: the engine control module. That yeah, well, hang on a second, um, 262 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: I think they did the right parts. I just think 263 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: for everyone's I just want to make sure everybody out 264 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: there understands it. I think you've got the numbers backwards. 265 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: The one thirty six was an O two heater circuit 266 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: was catalytic converter efficiency. So just I just want to 267 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: keep the codes with the components replaced. Any any diagnosis 268 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: done when either of these components were replaced, or is 269 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: this just a random let's just change it. Well, I 270 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: thought there was diagnosis done. Mechanic have been dealing wasn't 271 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: for years. I'm getting a little concerned about the change 272 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: in the ecm um yeah, because I have to tell 273 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: you it's it's not on that particular Toyota. It's not 274 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: necessarily what I would consider um uh common. Let me 275 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: ask you this when when they change the O two, 276 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: WHICHO two upstream or downstream downstream? Okay, that that's correct 277 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: now there there there have been conversations where the upstream 278 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: OH two does affect and skew the downstream OH too. 279 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: You know, have they made any comments about what fuel 280 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: trim looks like on the vehicle when they look at 281 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: it with a scantl uh? He said it was normal 282 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: the two times before I was there. Uh you know 283 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: one thirty six is is an issue with either lack 284 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: of switching on the downstream OH too. They actually used 285 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: downstream O two to help cont do an air too 286 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: to control fuel trim on this vehicle, all right. And 287 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: then the other thing that can affect this is the 288 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: air fuel ratio sensor, which is the upstream We're gonna 289 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: call it an upstream or two, but it's actually an 290 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: upstream air fuel. The heat or circuit there can affect 291 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: that air fuel sensor's operation and cause a P zero 292 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: one thirty six for the downstream if you follow what 293 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying, so I would, I would definitely take a 294 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: look at the upstream air fuel sensor heat or resistance typically, 295 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: and it's nothing more than a d V O M 296 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: test typically heat or resistance. And they're gonna have to 297 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: figure out out of the four wires, which two are 298 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: the heater um And it's easy enough to look at 299 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: a wiring diagram, but you're gonna see a resistance value 300 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: oh between point seven tents and one point five m. 301 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: And they need to look at that cold. They need 302 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: to look at that warm because it is gonna vary, 303 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: and make sure in both instances it's it's plugged in, 304 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: all right, I'm sorry, it's it's it's consistent, you know, 305 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: because it will change. It will change with time. Um. 306 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: The other thing that can affect it is, you know, 307 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: just mechanical condition of the engine. When I get something 308 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: this old, even though and guys are gonna tell me 309 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm wasting my time, I will go through both a 310 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: mechanical compression test and a cylinder leakdown test, especially on this, 311 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: and wanted to take you to get the plugs out 312 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: of this twenty minutes. Um, it's not the most difficult 313 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: engine in the whole world to work on. It's fairly 314 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: straightforward and simple. So I would tell you conquer those, 315 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: conquer whatever codes you're getting, and then if you want 316 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: to get back to the rough idle question, my one 317 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: thought would be is it different or better in reverse? This? 318 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: Is this a sticker? And this this is an automatic? 319 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: You said, correct, right? If you put the car in reverse? 320 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: Is it different? They believe it's the same because all 321 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: the engine mounts have been changed. When they redid the frame, 322 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: they put a new frame on the truck. Because that 323 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: that was my other conversation. Um, let me ask you this. 324 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: It's not since they did the frame, is it? It 325 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: was always there? Was? It was always there. That's the 326 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: reason I brought it over to Toyota, because the local 327 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: mechanics said, this is normal. It's a normal issue with 328 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: this engine. His opinion. The the The only way I 329 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: would tell you, I would tell you the conditions where 330 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: it could be normal, all right, and I'll leave it here. 331 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: Is that you know if fuel trims look good throughout 332 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: the range, if there are no fault codes, if it's 333 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: the same in drive and reverse, and you know, yeah, 334 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: it can be considered normal at some point without feeling it. 335 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: It's it's it's hard to say, um, but those are 336 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: the things I would be looking at. I'll tell you what, Dennis, 337 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: stay on the line. We're gonna be sending the densil 338 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: spring car Care tune up kid out to you shortly. 339 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: How it's gonna need to get sure of some information 340 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: from you, but we'll send out a set of densil 341 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: or ridy um T T s uh. You know you 342 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: can swap those out for the Toyota an nour you can. 343 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: And that's the other conversation we could have had. Maybe 344 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: you don't have the correct spark plugs. These are spark 345 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: plug sensitive, but we'll send out a set of dense 346 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: already um T T spark plugs to you and air 347 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: filter in a set of wiper blades. At least when 348 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: you get through the trouble fold codes, you'll have some 349 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: good quality components in the vehicle as far as tune 350 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: up wise and um that might help with the overall 351 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: life of the vehicle as well. Dennis, let me know 352 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: what happens. I'm here for you at five zero nine zero. Alright, 353 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: take good care at Dennis. Make sure he gets set 354 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: up with that dense O spring tune up. Kid. I'm 355 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: on an any in the car, doctor, and uh G 356 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: coming up next. A little bit of a surprise. Well 357 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: maybe not so much surprise to you. I'm always a 358 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: surprise to me. I'm never quite sure what the heck 359 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing behind this microphone put in any event, I'll 360 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: be back right after this. Don't go away, Hey, welcome 361 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: back right in the car doctor. Rolling along this hour 362 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: as um, we kind of take things in strude and 363 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: try to get through the rest of this hour. Um, 364 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: quick conversation. We had a late model Chevy truck in 365 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: the shop this week. I just want to tell a 366 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: little bit real quick about what the extremes of automobiles 367 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: are before we get back to the busy phones. Late 368 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: model Chevy truck Chevy suburban came in and the problem 369 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: was the heated and cooled seats were not functioning. The 370 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: there's a little blower module. Uh there's a little blower 371 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: in each seat that will put out hot or cold air. 372 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: Depending upon what you put the settings at and you know, 373 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: cooler heat the seat. Now here's a hundred and fifty 374 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: thousand mile vehicle, and yeah, you know it's it stood 375 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: up the test of time. I got to a hundred 376 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: and fifty, but with no blower operation. I understand their 377 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: discomfort and went through the normal course of diagnosis, and 378 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: it turns out that it's a fairly common problem. It 379 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: was under the passenger side seat, uh PINE on the 380 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: climate control module, the red with the white trace. The 381 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: main power feed to that module had melted. The connector 382 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: had melted inside and actually I took a picture of 383 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: it not to get it up on the Facebook page 384 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: after the show today, and think of that, and it's 385 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: just interesting to note that the melted connector. You can 386 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: purchase the connector from General Motors, just the connector though, 387 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: no pigtails, no repair splices, just the connector, so you 388 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: can you can purchase just the connector, but you can't 389 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: do anything with it because then at that point you 390 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: would have to sit there and repair the harness, which 391 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: you're replacing the melted connector for in the first place. 392 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: So they upgraded it and now General Motors allows you 393 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: to purchase a complete power seat, cooling system, sub wiring harness. 394 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's you can only imagine what's involved in 395 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: putting this in. It's a you know, it's like a 396 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty harness. You need some special cloth wound tape. 397 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: They want you to use cloth wound tape. There's a 398 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: bolt in that highlights and talks about all the specifics 399 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: about how this has to be done. You're probably into 400 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's probably the better part of a five 401 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: bill to put this harness. And by the time you 402 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: look at parts in labor and I understood the customer 403 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: didn't want to do what I understand. I wanted to 404 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: put five dollars into a car to heat and cool 405 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: to seats at this stage and age with the mileage 406 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 1: on the truck. But it shows you the extreme and 407 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: the cost of what it takes to maintain and you know, 408 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: put a vehicle together in terms of of proper care. 409 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: And you know, you wonder to yourself, so, what's gonna 410 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: happen when it's not something um, you know, I'll call 411 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: it fluff. It's it's fluff to have heated and cooled seats. 412 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: You wonder what it's gonna take when it becomes something 413 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: along the lines of, um, I don't know, rear view 414 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: mirrors had folded or out, or or some other system 415 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: that's you know, sort of critical to the operation of 416 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: the vehicle. I mean we see it all the time 417 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: where A B S and some of the other safety 418 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: systems of the vehicle are just disregarded. And um, you 419 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: just say that the cost of technology is really kind 420 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: of pushing things out the door. People just can't afford 421 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: to uh nor choose to deal with it any longer. So, 422 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: you know, just an example of what goes on in 423 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: the shop, how a simple repair if General Motors still 424 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: made the If General Motors had still made the connector 425 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: with a pigtail, you could have done the repair probably 426 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: in an hour. But for whatever reason they said no. 427 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 1: Then you know, bingo, and now we're into something totally different. 428 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: So just just something to be aware of. Anyway, let's 429 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: get over to the phone lines. I thought you might 430 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: enjoy that. I'll g got a picture of that up 431 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: on Facebook running in the Car Doctor Facebook page sometime 432 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: after the show today, let's go and talk to John 433 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: and McKinley, California. Some questions and problems with the Plymouth Breeze. John, 434 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, how can I help 435 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: thanking call? You're welcome. This is UH what happened with 436 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: this car. It's about a thousand miles of having purchased 437 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: it for for a work car. It quit running and 438 00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: it was total a care standard UH repair shop. They 439 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: diagnosed it and they tested for fuel pressure, was a 440 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: back spark was good, and the computer came up with 441 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: a code PAS there are three two zero so indicated 442 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: being a crank sensor. He replaced the crank sensor and 443 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: still wouldn't work. He could not get the code to 444 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: He raised off the unit, so we determined that the 445 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: unit was bad PCM. So he sent it off to 446 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: a Napper repair center in Pennsylvania. After a month he 447 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: installed that. The car ran for about ten minutes and 448 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: a quit. He checked the code and he gave the 449 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: same code. So we replaced the sensor again and it 450 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: still wouldn't run. At that point in time, he decided 451 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: that he gave up. So the car was about two 452 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: forty miles away from where I live, so it was 453 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: told to where I live. And now they're telling me 454 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: that it was probably not that something else that. So 455 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of trying to figure out exactly 456 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: what it is. And so you know, I listened your program. 457 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: I thought you might be able to help. So yeah, 458 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad to take a swing at this. John, Um, 459 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: you know whether the other guy is right or wrong. First, 460 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: let's figure out what's wrong with the car, and then 461 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: then you can have that conversation with him or me 462 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: again afterwards. So right now, we've got a car that cranks, 463 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: doesn't start correctly. Correct, Okay, what the repair shop that 464 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: it's at? Now, did they give you anything definitive as 465 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: far as same symptoms, same conditions or is it something different? No, 466 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: it's not at a shop. I currently have it at 467 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: my home. But I spoke with four different mechanics than 468 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: they all allude to not necessarily being the problem with 469 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: the PSTM. That it could be a wire between the 470 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: PCTM and the sensor, or it could be the back 471 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: plate that might be cracked or broken. And but he's 472 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: he's looking at two hours to diagnose the problem correctly. 473 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: But he doesn't believe there was a PCDM to begin with, 474 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: nor is it now right? And I don't think it 475 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: is now either. However, if I were diagnosing this at 476 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: the shop, one of the first things I would do 477 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: something that was neat and and it's gotten a lot 478 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: more involved than it's It's there on newer vehicles as well. 479 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: You can you can test that PCM. Um. Let's let's 480 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: make some assumptions John, for the purpose of this conversation. 481 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: Let's assume that this because this is cranks, no start correct, 482 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: all right. So let's assume there's no spark and no 483 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: injector pulse, all right. So you know that would have 484 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: been a common failure for a Plymouth two leader like this, 485 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: no crank, No, I'm sorry, no cranks, no spark, no 486 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: injector pulse. First thing I would typically do after pulling 487 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: codes is testing the pc M. I would have a 488 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: scan tool that I could put into what we call 489 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: actual at or test mode a t M, kind of 490 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: like the bank, all right, a t M, and from 491 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: there I can manually try to fire the injector and 492 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: manually try to fire the spark plug. If I can 493 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: do that, if I can make spark, test the coils, 494 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: test the injectors and they work, then I then I 495 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: know the PCM has a very high chance of being good. 496 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: It's got a very good success rate at that point. 497 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,719 Speaker 1: All right, there's a couple other you know, far fetched 498 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: off to the right down at the end of the 499 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: list thing that could be wrong, but you're in the 500 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: nile that you've got a good PCM at that point. 501 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: And I'm coming up with a crank or cam sensor 502 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: code on that vehicle. I need to do two things. 503 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: I need to use a lab scope and wave or 504 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 1: electrically test both sensors cranking. Can they put up a pattern? 505 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: Are the two patterns in sync with each other? Meaning 506 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: that as the crank comes around, does the cam come 507 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: around at the correct time? Are they in sync? Think 508 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: of a bicycle sprocket. All right, do they have correct signal? 509 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: Are they in correct relation to a each other? And 510 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: if they passed, then the next place I'm going to 511 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: go is where the crank censor wiring, specifically crank censor 512 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: wiring comes down around the back of the engine. The harness, 513 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: it seemed would either melt or get congealed together by 514 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: oil leaking over time and fuse together, and it may 515 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: not look like they may have to actually cut the 516 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: harness open through the electrical tape and through the protective coding, 517 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: and they'll find that the harness itself is shorted and touching, 518 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: creating the no start condition. Could that cause the PCM 519 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: to fail? I've never seen it, but anytime we have 520 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: a conversation about shorted wiring, of course it's on the table. 521 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: But to me, that would be part of what he's 522 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: trying to do for you in that two hour diagnosis. 523 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: And you could ask him to say, listen, what are 524 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: you gonna do in those two hours? If if he 525 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: repeats back to you what I just said, then that's 526 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: the guy that can fix the car. Yeah, that's what 527 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: he told me. He told me that he's gonna put 528 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: her on and uh have a cranking and check for 529 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: the for the sensors to see that they get he's 530 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: getting the falls and they have a stilmilar wave, he 531 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: described it. He also he believes that it could also 532 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: be the put the back plate you you know he's 533 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: talking about there. Um, I think what he's talking about 534 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: is the trigger wheel. Okay, yeah, right, yeah, it could 535 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: be that sure, absolutely, and and and the wave test 536 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: will tell him that, all right. So, like I said, 537 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: I think that's the guy that can fix the car 538 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: from my seat, whether or not that other guy got 539 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: it right or not, Let's see what fixes the car first, 540 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have a conversation with him. Yeah. 541 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: I just thought it was gonna look peculiar that he 542 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: would just say, okay, I give up and then state 543 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: that the car has a wire problem. And I questioned 544 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: him what kind of test did he do to decide 545 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: that there's a wire problem. You couldn't tell what he did. 546 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: But there's neither here nor there. We're over to him 547 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: all the way and I'm not going to take it 548 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: back there, and the unit is under warranty, and he 549 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: keeps on me to send it back warranty. But I 550 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: believe with what this other guy stand in, the problem 551 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: is not with a PPM. However, he did tell me, 552 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: now and see if you run into this. He stays 553 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: that if there's a problem with that trigger sense there 554 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: or any wiring when you're running, it cannot erase the 555 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: code or clear the code because it's not detecting to 556 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: clear the code. Is that pound correct? Well, if there's 557 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: if there's a fault in wiring leading up to the 558 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: PCM and you trigger it, the clear yeah. Of course 559 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: that may or may not work. Is that what you're 560 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: asking me, John? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, So first things first, 561 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: let's find and diagnose the problem before we go to 562 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: the next step. And I understand your pain, brother, I 563 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: know you're a little skeptical at this point. You've already 564 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: been through one poser and you're wondering if you're at 565 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: the next But bottom line, it sounds like he's on 566 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: the right track. And the guy that's local in town, 567 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: he's the guy that's struggling maintain his reputation. Let's see 568 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: what he has to say and then we'll talk from there. 569 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: How's that. Yeah, it sounds a great ron Keep me posted. 570 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: You have a good day to you, take good care 571 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: on modining and the Car Doctor back right after this 572 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: sitting yellow that you stand out. 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We know you've got a lot of choices 582 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: out there, and we're happy and proud to be part 583 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: of your choice. So, speaking of choices, Charles has decided 584 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: to call us on line forty eight. Let's get over 585 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: and talk to him. Somerset, New Jersey. I guess at 586 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: Somerset County or Somerset, New Jersey. I'm not sure which. 587 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: Two thousand seven Toyota Solara. Charles, Welcome to the Car Doctor. 588 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: How can I help I have on this time listener? Um, 589 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: it's so much the County, New Jersey. But I got 590 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: an old seven Solara three points leader engine, took out 591 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: the mouse and the transmission was having issues stopping getting 592 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: into first gear and then not getting the toad gear. 593 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: So took it to the dealer h and they said 594 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: it needed a band the placement transmission. One of about 595 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: that was kind of yeah, high high costs for little 596 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: miles car. Well, you know, and and again it wouldn't 597 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: matter if it had mild mile two hundred or mile 598 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: two thousand. It's it's the same amount of money to 599 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: replace the unit, labor and time and material but anyway immaterial. 600 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: What's what's going on with the car? Did the transmission 601 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: fix it? Or you're you're thinking about doing it? Well? 602 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: So I ended up taking into independent mechanic and ended 603 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: up putting in a salvage transmission with all mileage even 604 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: lower mileagin what I my car has? So that's fixed it. 605 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: I guess My question is this a known problem with 606 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: toyotas with the three points? No? Not necessarily. Not necessarily, Charlie, 607 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: let me ask you this. How often did you change 608 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: the fluid on that trans it was changed once? H Uh? Yeah, 609 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: I mean it is kind of an unusual failure. That 610 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: the reason it happens. I'll tell you what, Charlie. Let 611 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: me pull over and take the pause, stay put because 612 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to rush through this. And um when 613 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: we come back, we'll we'll finish up with you. From there. 614 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm run on any of the car doctor. We're back 615 00:32:52,080 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: right after this, Welcome back, nating the car doctor, trying 616 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: to squeeze it all in this hour. Let's go back 617 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: to Charlie. Charlie, there, sir, P zero seven s was 618 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: the fault code that they had, right, Okay, let me 619 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: explain it to you like this. If you put three 620 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: buttons on top of the dashboard, push buttons one, two, 621 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: and three. Every time you push the button, you would 622 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: shift a gear, all right, an electrical signal. That's basically 623 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: what the solenoid is doing. The the engine controller does 624 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: that to the transmission. You be the PCM. The buttons 625 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: would be the shift solenoids. But now we've got a 626 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: computer in place, because obviously you're too busy driving and 627 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: you can't take the time to do it, and you 628 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: don't know everything. The PCM nos, so the shift buttons 629 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: would be the solenoids. A P zero seven ninety six 630 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: means that there is a fault with the C solenoid 631 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: or third gear solenoid itself, and it's seeing a fault. 632 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: In other words, it's being commanded. It doesn't see proper 633 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: mechanical response. Your question is is it a common fault? 634 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: Not necessarily common. I've seen a few of them. Usually 635 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: it's a solenoid and there's some testing that they have 636 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: to go through. Why the dealership recommended to replace the 637 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: trans without seeing it, without being there, you know? Did 638 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: did they actually test something and they came back to that? 639 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: Are they basing it on common failures. Yeah, I agree, 640 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: at fifty thousand miles cost irrelevant. At fifty thousand miles, 641 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: it shouldn't happen, um and it's I took it to 642 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: an independent and they first they thought they couldn't get 643 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: away with just changing out the solemn and that didn't work. 644 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: And they looked at the trus mission and I guess, uh, 645 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: based on examinations recommended, right, So so something was wrong 646 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: with that. Trends as as trans as go, No, Toyota's 647 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: really don't have that many problems. Haven't seen it, not 648 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: at that age, not at that mileage. I will say this, 649 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: the one thing that Toyota does, along with the rest 650 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 1: of the car companies, is they're banging on the drum 651 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: with regard to never changing fluid, never servicing. At the 652 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: fact that you changed it at approximately thirty and here's 653 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: the trans at fifty and you had the issue as 654 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: long as the proper fluid was used. You can't sit 655 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 1: there and say, well, you know, it's it's the fault 656 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: of servicing, because it clearly was serviced. You know, you 657 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: had the one, Charlie. I mean that's the best answer 658 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: I've got. You know you had that you were in 659 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: that two or three percentile for failure at that mileage. 660 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: It's not common, but it happens. Uh. You know, and 661 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: I understand why you used a salvage unit. UM. I 662 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: would keep a close slaw. I would keep a close 663 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: eye on fluid condition and see, you know, what does 664 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: the fluid look like in five thousand, ten thousand, fifteen 665 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: thousand miles and so on. UM, I would clearly make sure. 666 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: I'd probably look very hard at ten thousand miles and 667 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: maybe consider changing it if the fluid starting to turn color, 668 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: and then maybe think about do you have an issue 669 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: with the trans cooler located in the bottom of the 670 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: radiator as far as for fluid contamination? But UM, not 671 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: a common failure, not at that mileage, and UM just odd, 672 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: but it happens. Charlie. I hope that answered the question 673 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: for you until the next time. I'm not anating of 674 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 1: the car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless.