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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 2: You'll play for all things prostling.

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Speaker 3: And exclusive interviews with some of your favorite wrestlers.

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Speaker 2: Abound stop being.

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Speaker 4: We's up you guys, Welcome back into iHeartRadio's official wrestling podcast,

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Speaker 4: The Battleground Podcast. At his Battle alongside with me my

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Speaker 4: tag team partner Eli, and we are coming up on

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Speaker 4: aw Blood and Guts and Man, it's gonna be an

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Speaker 4: exciting night for sure, especially a monumental historic night because

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Speaker 4: for the first time ever, we are getting a female

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Speaker 4: blood and Guts and today on the show, our guests,

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Speaker 4: you know her, you love her, and if you don't

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Speaker 4: give it a few minutes and you will. She sings,

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Speaker 4: she wrestles. Let's see, she's an actress of Ventriloquist. Am

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Speaker 4: I missing anything else? Harley Cameron fitness influencer?

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Speaker 3: What else?

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Speaker 4: Harley Cameron is our guest today. Harley, thanks, look coming on?

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Speaker 3: How are you hello? I'm great? Thank you for the

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Speaker 3: lovely rap gush.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we could probably listen more accolades, but that

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Speaker 4: would take up most of the show, and we're here

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Speaker 4: to talk about everything aew and everything Harley Cameron, So

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Speaker 4: I want to go right into this real quick, because

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Speaker 4: recently you and Willow pulled off a major upset by

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Speaker 4: defeating the tournament favorites Mercedes Monette and Athena to advance.

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Speaker 4: How did the lead up to that match feel for

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Speaker 4: you emotionally and also you getting the win for your team?

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Speaker 4: What was going through your mind?

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Speaker 1: I look back at both of our faces when that

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Speaker 1: moment happened.

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Speaker 3: I think that it speaks for itself.

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Speaker 1: Like so, so you know, shocked, to be honest, and

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Speaker 1: you know, a static. It was a range of both emotions,

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Speaker 1: just like you know, it was a wonderful feeling.

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Speaker 3: It was a surprise.

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Speaker 1: They definitely definitely gave us an amazing fight and really

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Speaker 1: pushed us to the limits. So obviously we're very happy

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Speaker 1: with the outcome.

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Speaker 3: And I think we shocked the world at ourselves and

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Speaker 3: now we're fight it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well I think it was shocking just because of all

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Speaker 2: the belts involved in the match, you know, so it

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Speaker 2: seemed like an uphill battle for you guys, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was. We popped hard over here when you got

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Speaker 2: that pin. So it was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, I will say, it's you know, we're

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Speaker 1: up against two of the greatest wrestlers. I think, you know, so,

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Speaker 1: I you know, not even just in the women's division,

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Speaker 1: but in the world in general. I think that they're

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Speaker 1: both incredible athlete and it you know, it's it's definitely

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Speaker 1: an exciting and unexpected outcome.

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Speaker 2: For everyone, right right right. Well, you know, speaking of

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Speaker 2: Harley Cameron, your popularity has been very just an organic growth.

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Speaker 2: Do you in your mind do you have a know,

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Speaker 2: maybe a defining moment where you can kind of look

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Speaker 2: Was there any anything that stands out like, oh, I'm

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Speaker 2: over now?

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to hear the word over and put it

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Speaker 1: in context of the right of myself.

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Speaker 3: Be like I hang the e.

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Speaker 1: I will say there was definitely momentum behind when I

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Speaker 1: would start to have my matches and I would hear people,

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Speaker 1: you know, supporting me and chanting me and you know,

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Speaker 1: yelling feel the rat and I thought, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're with me. You know, it was it was definitely

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Speaker 1: a build that started to become more consistent. And I

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Speaker 1: will say also the opportunity that I had to you know,

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Speaker 1: face Mercedes at Grand Slam Australia at the start of

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Speaker 3: Defining moment for me and in my journey.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I definitely felt the support louder and

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Speaker 1: bigger than ever in my home country. And it's from

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Speaker 1: that moment I definitely felt like, oh wow, Like it's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I do want to talk about that

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Speaker 4: it through the TV watching it. I mean, you had

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Speaker 4: again we felt that the TV. Obviously you probably felt

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Speaker 1: It was so amazing and surreal and I am not

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Speaker 1: didn't settle down. It was consistent the Aussies definitely. They

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Speaker 1: And like I said, the energy of that entire night

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Speaker 3: Build and build and building. It was a very you know,

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Speaker 3: it was a long show that night.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like throughout in sporting events in general,

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Speaker 1: it was it was so cool just that whole night

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Speaker 3: It was a hard one to top.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, that event was just incredible from

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Speaker 2: was just another big event, you know, going back to

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Speaker 2: uh women's Blood of Guts match. You know, we as

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Speaker 2: the siccos over here, we've been clamoring for it since

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Speaker 2: for AW and what would make you the most proud of,

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Speaker 2: like being able to watch it back at a year

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Speaker 2: from now, what would you what do you think would

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Speaker 1: I think that for all of us, there is a

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Speaker 1: So I can say wholeheartedly that I know that before

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Speaker 3: Of obviously what this embodies.

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Speaker 1: So I think that I know everyone has already feeling

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Speaker 1: that Tony Kahin's given us the opportunity and that this

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. And you know, me and Eli, we've had this

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Speaker 4: conversation before. We've grown up wrestling fans, and we remember

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Speaker 4: seeing when you know, we were watching wrestling as kids,

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Speaker 4: when women's wrestling was on there, it was three minutes,

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Speaker 4: it was bra and panties matches.

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Speaker 1: It was this.

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Speaker 3: But now as.

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Speaker 4: Times have changed, women are main eventing big pay per views,

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Speaker 4: women are getting the same matches as the guys are.

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Speaker 4: And you know, let's talk about the women's landscape at AW.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you've seen it from day one to now,

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Speaker 4: it's evolving rapidly. From your vantage point, where do you

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Speaker 1: I think that the evolution of women's wrestling in general

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Speaker 1: I feel like, definitely more you know, sexualized and less

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Speaker 1: this transition where we've now experienced different levels of it.

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Speaker 1: It's ticked many different boxes, and I think that now

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Speaker 3: You can have the best of all worlds.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that there is a mixed bunch of

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Speaker 1: I think that it went from a stage of you know,

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Speaker 3: Or you don't want to do that, you don't have to.

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Speaker 1: And the cool thing is so many people bring different

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Speaker 1: know you don't wear bra and panties, so we're not

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Speaker 3: Oh you don't. You know, you're not the strongest. We're

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Speaker 1: Like it's like this beautiful mixture of all these different

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Another thing exciting we found out about on

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Speaker 2: the eleven thirteen edition of Ring of Honor. You will

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Speaker 2: have a world title Matchina, you know, big big month

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Speaker 2: longest reigning champion and Ring of Honor history, male or female.

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Speaker 2: What would what would a title victory over her mean

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Speaker 2: for you at this point in your career, I mean,

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Speaker 2: toppling the longest raining champion the Ring of Harder history.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a massive opportunity for me. And she is,

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Speaker 1: She's one of the most impressive wrestlers that I've ever

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Speaker 3: Obviously, a win like that for me would.

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Speaker 1: Be exponential, And I think my goal is obviously just

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Speaker 1: every time that I get in there to just remember that.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've been giving these opportunities for a reason,

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Speaker 1: and I think I proved to everyone.

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Speaker 3: This last week that anything is possible.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going in hungry, I'm going in ready, and

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Speaker 1: again she's one of the greatest to do it, but

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Speaker 1: I have a taste for it.

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Speaker 2: Now there you go.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Now what's great is you know, earlier in the show,

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Speaker 4: you've talked in past interviews about how you've branched out

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Speaker 1: And I say, don't you see that? I have the

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Speaker 3: On a regular basis.

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Speaker 1: Like it's been really cool to be able to do ventriloquism,

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Speaker 3: And that's why I love work so much.

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Speaker 1: I love wrestling, I love aw It's just it's like

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Speaker 3: Cool, right right right? Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: Of course, Blood and Guts you could watch it Wednesday night. Man,

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Speaker 4: it's going to be a fun time for sure, and

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Speaker 4: of course we're going to see it. The men's got

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Speaker 4: let's save that for a different day, let's put it

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Speaker 1: Definitely all the time, Like I definitely like, well, I

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Speaker 3: Personally just like last my ship.

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Speaker 1: All the time, I come up with things that I

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Speaker 4: What so what what is one of those that kind

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if there's like a particular like

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what am I saying this? Sitting there like absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, here's and that's the thing is like we sit

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a nice feeling for sure. Actually, you

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Speaker 1: and I. They were like talking about, like you know, things,

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Speaker 1: and in my head, I was like, I know what

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Speaker 1: I'll do. I'll bring out an orange to the ring

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Speaker 1: and I'll look at it's.

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Speaker 3: Not eating it. I was kind of like, that's terrible.

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Speaker 2: I think that's gonna work.

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Speaker 3: I mean a full year I'm looking at it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 4: Harley Cameron is our guest on the show today. Before

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Speaker 4: we let you go, anything you want to say to

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Speaker 4: the people watching or listening to this right now.

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Speaker 3: I want to thank you guys for having me. It's

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Speaker 3: been a joy, and make sure you watch your blood

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Speaker 3: and guts. I expect this to mean bloody and gautty.