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Speaker 1: My name is Steven Socks. I was a stand in

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Speaker 1: on the Office, also played Justin Spitzer on the Office,

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Speaker 1: and currently I'm the commissioner of The Office Fantasy Football League.

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to a special Thursday edition of

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Speaker 1: The Office Deep Dive. I am your host, Brian bon Gardner. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm here on a Thursday. Why it's not Tuesday. Why

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Speaker 1: a Thursday? Well, because I'm so excited. It's my favorite

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Speaker 1: time of the year. It's the most wonderful time. We

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Speaker 1: have to pay for that. Listen, those of you who

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Speaker 1: huge football fan. That's right. But did you know that

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Speaker 1: a lot of the Office family actually love football too.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we have our own fantasy football league that

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Speaker 1: has been going on for seven teen years, an official

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Speaker 1: The Office Fantasy Football League. Now that seventeen years. That's

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Speaker 1: longer than some of you have been alive. Okay, Now,

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Speaker 1: the competition started way back while we were filming the

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Speaker 1: show like season two ish, And let me tell you,

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Speaker 1: our directors hated it. Our assistant directors really hated it

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Speaker 1: because nothing interrupted our ability to do our jobs like

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Speaker 1: our obsession with beating each other. Yes, defeating like pummeling

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Speaker 1: one another. Seriously, we would spend as much time on

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Speaker 1: fantasy football as we did on writing scripts or finding

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Speaker 1: props or memorizing lines, and you know something, those were

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Speaker 1: some of my favorite times on set. So in honor

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Speaker 1: of our fantasy football crew, I'm gonna be launching a

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Speaker 1: special Thursday edition of the podcast called The Office Deep

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Speaker 1: Dive Fantasy Edition, where I bring on special guests and

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Speaker 1: members of our league to talk all things the Office

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Speaker 1: and well maybe a little football too. You'll know some

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Speaker 1: guest today. So to kick things off, we're gonna bring

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Speaker 1: in a very special person. He is the glue that

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Speaker 1: kept our league together and a man I am so

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Speaker 1: lucky to call my friend, our commissioner, Stephen Socks. This

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Speaker 1: is a man who's really an unsung hero of the

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Speaker 1: show and a huge part of our office family. Stephen

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Speaker 1: was a stand in for six years. He appeared in

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Speaker 1: several episodes as the character Justin Spitzer, and he was

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Speaker 1: actually one of the last people to say goodbye to

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Speaker 1: Steve on camera. He was on set with us day

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Speaker 1: in and day out, in his words, biting his wallet

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Speaker 1: during takes so he wouldn't ruin a shot, laughing and

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Speaker 1: literally watching his own family grow up with the office.

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Speaker 1: But most importantly, he has kept our fantasy football league

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Speaker 1: together all of these years. So please join me in

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Speaker 1: giving a warm, deep dive welcome to the man who

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Speaker 1: well has won the league, but also one all of

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Speaker 1: our hearts, the amazing Stephen Socks, Bubble and Squeak. I

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Speaker 1: love Bubble and squeak on Bubble and Squeaker cook at

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Speaker 1: every month lift over from the nuttyle Brian there is

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Speaker 1: what's Stephen? So good to see you? I know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's been so long, it has I mean, we've talked

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Speaker 1: I know what happened to your hair? Well it's not

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Speaker 1: even more like you Yeah, well there you go. You

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Speaker 1: know I always I was always bald. I just always

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Speaker 1: I know, it just looks shinier. Let's just it just

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Speaker 1: could you come over and throw down a line and

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00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: we'll just see if it works. So it could be

429
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: something on a car radio. It could be uh, you know,

430
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: something that was actually usually scripted, but um, he was

431
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: like just throwing because I need I need a voice

432
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: to show it to Greg, but they haven't cast it yet.

433
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: So it always gave me a chance to do it.

434
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: And if Greg liked it, he could stay. And if

435
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: a stage it was mine, which is great or Laurie

436
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: or Laurie's you know. So, so I think we did

437
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: end up doing. Um, I just go by like the

438
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: little residuals now, but I think it's like eight or

439
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: nine episodes. But whenever I get whenever I get a

440
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: big whenever I get a big residual check, I always

441
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: think of you. Always going if I'm getting a big

442
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: residual check for that day, you know, big for me,

443
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm going, Oh, that's how fun to have done a episodes? Um,

444
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 1: what was the most challenging episode for you to work on? Mm? Hm, wow,

445
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: that's a great question. Um. I can't think of any

446
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: episodes that were mentally or emotionally challenging. Uh, well, oh

447
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: that's now I have to say Steve's Steve's last episode.

448
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: You know, I was gonna say something like it was hot,

449
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: like when we went went out into the woods, or something,

450
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: but you know, to be honest, Um, saying goodbye to Steve.

451
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: It was set up so well for us as a crew.

452
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: On Thursday, you know, Monday, we shot Monday to Friday.

453
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: On Thursday of that week, we went to Ontario Airport

454
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: and shot all the airports stuff and we said goodbye

455
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: to Michael Scott. He got on a plane and left

456
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: and that Friday, the next day was the last day

457
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: for Steve and we were back at the stages. I

458
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: feel like that's when we said goodbye to Steve. UM.

459
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: I was lucky in the fact that in that moment

460
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: Um it was one of these things going, hey, put

461
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: a suit on and show up on the last day

462
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: because I want Greg said, I want to throw you

463
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: in the background somewhere and so um. For those that

464
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: remember Steve's final time and in the office bullpen and

465
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: he says something to Creed and has a great moment

466
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: with John and walks to the elevator and goes down

467
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: the elevator and out to a car and goes to

468
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: the airport. Well, his last scene is walking into that elevator,

469
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: which is not a real elevator. Actually we're on the

470
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: first floor of everything, but the doors just closed, and

471
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: then the doors that were up on the other stage

472
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: and where yeah, it's it's the movie magic. But um,

473
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: so they had like a FedEx guy type of background

474
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: character that was going to be in the elevator and

475
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: walk out of the elevator as Steve was walking in

476
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: the elevator, and they just put me in with that

477
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: FedEx guy, and so I would walk out of the elevator,

478
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: Steve would walk in, and then I just waited in

479
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: the lobby and the doors closed and we waited and

480
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: held and they'd say cut and the doors were open.

481
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: And that last time I remember the doors opened and

482
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: he's we knew it was it. And I was the

483
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: first one, right, I was literally six ft away and

484
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: I just I just hugged him. You know, Steve, he

485
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: didn't he he didn't even hesitate. He just hugged me.

486
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: And uh. It was very emotional, very emotional. But that

487
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: was probably that was probably the toughest. The Thursday was

488
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: really emotional too. I mean, it's a great it's a

489
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 1: great ending for that character. I mean it ended up

490
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: not being the ending but exactly, but you know, he

491
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: came back, but um, what he takes the microphone when

492
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: he takes the Lavalier mike off and and that's what

493
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: she said, and you can't hear him. It's it's brilliant,

494
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: It's really brilliant. And but but watching him walk away

495
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: after Pam says goodbye to him was I mean, there

496
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: wasn't a dry eye in the house. But on camera,

497
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: it's interesting. You were the second to the other than Pam.

498
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: You were the last one to pass him by in

499
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: the elevator. Yeah, that's right, that's right. Yeah, he um, yeah,

500
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: it was. It was a special moment because we had

501
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: gotten close, we had all gotten close, and we didn't

502
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: want to see this family broken up. We we want

503
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 1: I mean, not only do you want to keep working?

504
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: You know, we we knew Steve leaving uh was a

505
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: big part of our show. But he was just a

506
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: wonderful person. He is a wonderful person to just have

507
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: in your life. The greater loss for the show Steve

508
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: Carrell or Michael Scott. M hm. For me, it's Steve. Um.

509
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: I can always go back and watch Michael Scott. I

510
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: can always appreciate that character over and over. I mean,

511
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: I have a thirteen year old daughter now that started

512
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: binging the office like during a pandemic time, and it

513
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: was like awesome, and we and we get to the end. Honestly,

514
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: those last episodes were very painful and emotional, and I

515
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: was like, oh, and we just start back to the

516
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: pilot and I can I can go back and see

517
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: that and watch that. But I had limited time with Steve. Yeah. Um,

518
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: so you were on the show five to six years, um,

519
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: which is a long time to work with the same

520
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: group of people. How do you feel that the office,

521
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: the experience that people were were different than other things

522
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: that you've worked on. You know, Greg Daniels said, and

523
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: I think you said this in front of everybody. He

524
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: said that this show was really special and that people

525
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: work their entire career and don't get a show like this.

526
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: Not only nine years on a show, but the group

527
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: of people, and I didn't appreciate it as much as

528
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: I do now it It is by far the best

529
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: show I ever worked on because of the people. I

530
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: got close A couple of times. There were a couple

531
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: of shows I worked on I go this, this this is

532
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: what a great group, but they didn't last and when

533
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: we didn't have a growth together. I mean, you talk

534
00:30:54,840 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: about family when you when you see uh pe Bowl

535
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: having children, getting married, getting divorced, having deaths in their family,

536
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: and you're there for that. That's what made the office

537
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: so special and made us also close and why we

538
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: probably communicate and stay together so much. In fact, I

539
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: just went down to San Juan Capestano this weekend, went

540
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: to a restaurant and Tad Schultz, who was one of

541
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: the producer, like an assistant producer, assistant to the producer.

542
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: I ran into him. He's out, he's not even in

543
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: that part of the business anymore, and he lives down

544
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: in San Juan Capiscano. And I was like, and you're

545
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: just bonded. And I didn't even spend that much time

546
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: with Tad. You know, Tad didn't really know a lot

547
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: of you guys. He's in a he's in a trailer

548
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: and doing all the post stuff and and all that

549
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, not the actual shooting and um, but

550
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: anytime I see somebody that is from the show, all

551
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: we can talk about is the show, you know. I mean,

552
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: I ran I did UM actually UM did the finale

553
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: of Be Positive as an actor and I and I

554
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: was walking back to my trailer and ran into Andy

555
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: Buckley who was doing another show at Warner Brothers, and

556
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: I knew he had to be someplace because there were

557
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: a lot of pas around him going uh andy Andy.

558
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: But we talked for like forty five minutes, and there's

559
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: no way you can. I mean, we talked about you know,

560
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: golf and football, but we talked about just old times

561
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: and you you had a family basically that that was

562
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: that was born our kids, I know. I mean Lori

563
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: and I were both working on the show full time

564
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: until we had our first child. And at that point

565
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: we knew someone was going to stay at home, and

566
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: so she did. And there were times though once I

567
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: had gotten through, because we had we had long seasons,

568
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: um long hours, you know, twenty three episodes and long hours,

569
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: so there were times where you know, I wanted some

570
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: some baby time and my wife wanted some adult time.

571
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: The pretty this is were amazing at letting us swap

572
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: off for weeks in a time where Lori could get

573
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: a break into civilization, you know, from from babies. I mean,

574
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: I would say at this point, you are the person

575
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: most responsible for at least a specific subgroup of people

576
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: on the show. Stephen is the commissioner of the Office

577
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football League. Stephen, this is a lot of work

578
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: you're talking about wrangling cats. Uh, those those of us,

579
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: especially the actors on the show. Now we're in year

580
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: what year is this now? Seven season? We are about

581
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: to embark on season seventeen of The Office Fantasy Football League.

582
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: I can't even believe it. Um, when we started this,

583
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: there was no online draft that happened. There was no

584
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: We started doing the draft on a yellow legal pad

585
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: and the draft would take us weeks. There were no

586
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: no um for those of you who do fantasy when

587
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: when it was your turn to draft, you got past

588
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: the yellow legal pad this is and then you would

589
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: have to make your pick. But you might be in

590
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: the middle of a scene or you might be in

591
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: the middle of standing in and then have to go

592
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: be on book and it could take hours, or it

593
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: could be passed to me and I could have gone

594
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: home for the day. So it's not until the next

595
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 1: day that we picked back this. Yes, um, seventeen years

596
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: you are the commissioner. Are you excited that we're back? Oh?

597
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: Of course. And last year we did. We did have

598
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: some of the guys zoom the draft, which was great.

599
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: So we got to talk to each other. Yeah, that

600
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: was fun and we'll do that again. So I am

601
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: looking forward to that. I do not look forward to

602
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: the wrangling of the cats, as you say. I mean

603
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: we we have a very modest of anti in you know,

604
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: so getting buy in right and getting getting the money

605
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: from everyone, um, isn't it isn't a difficult pay for everyone,

606
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: but it can be really hard to get the money.

607
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: And to be honest, I've paid out without getting everything in.

608
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: But you want to have like you want to make

609
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: sure everyone is is awake here, you know, like I

610
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: want to make sure everything I know, everyone's coming back right.

611
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: But to actually get in touch with twelve other people

612
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: that are doing all different things and almost half our

613
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: our group or actors that could be anywhere in the world,

614
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe not now with the pandemic is as much.

615
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: But I remember trying to get John, and John can

616
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: be one of the hardest ones to get and oh,

617
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm kidding and uh and I'm emailing and texting and

618
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 1: you know, I'm thinking these things are going to go through.

619
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: And there was one time where he didn't get back

620
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: to me for a few days and he said, I'm sorry,

621
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of the Amazon shooting something. I'm like,

622
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: I had no WiFi. Um okay, so seventeen years now

623
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: it is there is really in the last I don't know,

624
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: eight to ten years. We haven't really had any turnover.

625
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: But who are the guys who are in now? Myself

626
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: Rain Wilson, John Krasinski previously mentioned. Uh you Andy Buckley,

627
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: Andy Buckley, that's right, David Wallace, Owen Ellickson writer a

628
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: Warren Lieber seen the writer. Yes, Mike Bertolina who was

629
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: props at the time. He's at pleased now. Chris Workman

630
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: who I mentioned earlier, but he is um he's a

631
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: camera operator now, but he was a camera assistant at

632
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: the time of the show. H Lee Kirk join his

633
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: husband husband. He qualified because he directed an episode. He

634
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: directed an episode that uh, Nick Carbone sound department. And

635
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: Greg Uberaga, who was one of our favorite pas on

636
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: the show. And he Greg is now a marshal at

637
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: the Park golf course. Yes, as one of his jobs,

638
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: and I know he's loving it. He's an incredible he's

639
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: an incredible golfer. Yes, he's way better than me. Um okay,

640
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: who has one the office league the most times. There's

641
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: no doubt that are most celebrated player or manager is

642
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: Warren Leeper's. He did not start until two thousand twelve.

643
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: He didn't, which I when I look back, I forgot

644
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: he won his first year. He must be cheating. And

645
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: then he had just had a three year streak a

646
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. So he's he's won four times,

647
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: um and and then he got a second place. So

648
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: he's he's placed five times out of nine seasons. How

649
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: many times have I won? You have not won, Brian,

650
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: but you have. It feels like you actually had the

651
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: You had the distinction of placing in the top three

652
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: the most, the most. I've placed the most. I'm in

653
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: the money twice you have gotten second place, and twice

654
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: you've gotten in third place. So four, well, then then

655
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: that must mean I'm at least tied with Warren. He's

656
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: won four times. Oh, I meant place, but not one.

657
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,479
Speaker 1: I've given Warren the award. You're not Warren, Okay place

658
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: Aside from Warren, I've placed in the top I placed

659
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: second and third the most, second, third, the most. But

660
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: good news is um Kauzynski's never won. I remember that

661
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: was that was something that that Rain always would dig

662
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: him about rain one rain one twice on the third

663
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: place one time? Yes, okay, what about you? Have you won?

664
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: You've won, I won in two thousand thirteen, and then

665
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: I've I've taken second place twice in third place once. Okay,

666
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what do the Cubs say? This

667
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: is my year? You're always there, Brian, You're always right there.

668
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean to think that the two times that you

669
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: were in second place, you want the championship game twice, right,

670
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: just one game away from the championship game. Two other times,

671
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: I feel like we're just being nice to me. I know,

672
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: I had to tell you it is. It is heartbreaking when,

673
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: like I said, I've I've come in second place twice

674
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: as well, and when I have lost that game, it's

675
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: usually around Christmas time. It ruins my Christmas. Yeah, I know,

676
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: it probably ruins the Christmas for my family. Is um,

677
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: how did you how did you get to be a commissioner?

678
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: It was because nobody else wanted it, that's probably, to

679
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: be honest, and and I did want it. I mean,

680
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: I love fantasy football. It's really besides the corralling of

681
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: everybody and dispensing of a little bit of money. But

682
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm able to be a facilitator of us staying together.

683
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: It really is fantastic because there's a lot of ribbing

684
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: that goes on between us. We're close like families, so

685
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: there's a there's no holds bar actually, um, and but

686
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: that that's been a great way for us to stay together.

687
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean we, like I said, we run into Andy Buckley.

688
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: We talked about old times, but we talked about football

689
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: and I had to be the biggest part of that

690
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: as I could. Yeah. Well, I will say that last year,

691
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: I mean, who knew what zoom? Well, I didn't know

692
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 1: what zoom was before you know this nonsense that happened.

693
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: But that was really fun that we kind of finally

694
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: did the draft. I know that one year we drafted

695
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: from the computers. Yeah, so on the bullpen set of

696
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: the Office when we were shooting the office, we drafted

697
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: from the computers once or twice. Yeah, well I remember

698
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: one time and uh, I think we brought like a

699
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: six pack of beer. There was some beer. Yeah, there

700
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: was two beers, maybe maybe just a couple. Um. It

701
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: was fun. But other than that that us getting together

702
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: last year, that was that was really fun. So the

703
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: reigning champion who won last year, Andy Buckley, he beat

704
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: Warren in the finals. Andy Buckley. Now that he's definitely cheating, right,

705
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: because it doesn't seem like, you know, when his son

706
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: helps him, his son, his son. I think the actual uh,

707
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: the name that you registered as, I believe it is

708
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: a son's name. So he's using his son's account, I think.

709
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: But I think he's getting I think he's getting some

710
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: some help. But yeah, what are some of our best

711
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: team names? I know that Chris Workman was a big

712
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers fan. Oh, he had so many different

713
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: about Gore, Yeah, Gore, no more when Gore left. And

714
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: then mine's always been you know, Stephen socks. I've always

715
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: been socks it to him and original, cute, clever. Now

716
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: I guess this makes me like a fuddy duddy. I

717
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: can't believe I just used the term fuddy duddy. I

718
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: have been bombers. I just bombed. I don't know. I

719
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: never do it. Rain He gets really into the names.

720
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: Usually it's something slightly perverted. Yes, he's had I don't

721
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: know what your rating is on your podcast, and it

722
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. He's had cut my balls for a but

723
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, you know you could be for for a

724
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: couple of years. Um, but he just changed it to

725
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: cut my footballs. So I don't know if he's maybe

726
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: getting I don't know, he's cleaning he's cleaning it up.

727
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, but yeah, you've always been b

728
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: B bombers. And I'd say Rain is the biggest trash

729
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 1: talker Rain is, And Rain loves to send you the

730
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: crappiest trade offers. Oh my god, ever like giving a

731
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: bite on that, like or he's getting a trade offer

732
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: from someone else, and he'll come to me and say,

733
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: what do you think about this? And I'm going, why

734
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: would Why am I helping you? First of all, I'm

735
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: the commissioner. Second of all, I'm playing against you in

736
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: the in the standings, So I've learned actually to help him, Uh,

737
00:43:53,840 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: you know in my own way. Um, I think that

738
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: we're unique in a way. And this is because I

739
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: am in other leagues, and I think that the biggest

740
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: benefit of us and it being seventeen years is there's

741
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: really no there's no controversy right, Like it feels like

742
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: in other leagues it's like, well, how many days do

743
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: you get to accept a draft? Or how many players

744
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: or this or that, like there's just kind of no

745
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: nonsense and that all of that stuff has kind of

746
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: gone away. There's really no controversy, and the draft order

747
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: is uniquely determined by always my kids. We always grab

748
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: I had a done Mifflin hat. We've gotten so many

749
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: over the years, right, and put everybody's name in a hat,

750
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: and my kids take turns pulling the the names out

751
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: of hat, and we always the you know, the first

752
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: the first pull will be position twelve and will go

753
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,479
Speaker 1: all down to the first pick. Which is funny because

754
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: I have one other league where he'll he'll do a

755
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: very similar thing, and the first the hat is number one,

756
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: And I've always had this like problem with that. I'm like, well,

757
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,959
Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense. You never say who won first,

758
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: and then let's let's talk about two, three to twelve.

759
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how you do anything. You would never

760
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: they don't give the award first place first, and then

761
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: and then everybody you know, oh, let's wait around for

762
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: a second place and goes to now let me give

763
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: you the nominees. No, it made no sense. So I've

764
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: been picked, uh, you know, last to be twelve in

765
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: that league, and I've been like I should have been

766
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: the first pick. But anyway, it's a pretty unique way,

767
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a really great way to get

768
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: my kids involved in enjoying that and and just seeing

769
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 1: the age of the kids as the progress, because I'll

770
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: videotape it and and send it out to everybody and

771
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: at least gives a chance for everyone to say, yeah,

772
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: we are we are getting older. Yes what, Um, I

773
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: know the answer to this question, but who's your football team?

774
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: The New Orleans Saints from New Orleans, originally from New Orleans. Yes,

775
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: New Orleans. You've got Rain, big Seahawks, John Big Patriots.

776
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: I might have the Green Bay Packers represented. And I

777
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: would say we are kind of homers in that way. Now,

778
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: not a hundred percent, because we all we do take

779
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: it seriously, but I would say that we all try

780
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: to get at least somebody. I definitely try to get

781
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: somebody from the Saints, which has been easy the last

782
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: you know, a few years with their their offense. You know,

783
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: if it's not Drew Brees, I want to get Kamara

784
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: or I want to get Michael Thomas and that kind

785
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: of hurt me last year, but um, but you know,

786
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 1: I want to be in this group I want to win,

787
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: but I also we have such a great time. Like

788
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: when you talk about how there's no controversy, I think

789
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: of like you just kids on the playground, right, you

790
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: show up, you got you got a basketball, and there's

791
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: a hoop and we're just playing. That's what we want.

792
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: We want to have fun. So grabbing one of our

793
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: players he has definitely a thing we want to do,

794
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: even if it's not maybe the smartest draft choice. You know,

795
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: we'll move up the draft for a hometown player most definitely. Right. Okay,

796
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: my my producer came up with these, uh this idea.

797
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: Let's see how well you or I do? All right,

798
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: if you were to hold a draft with just office characters,

799
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 1: who would you draft first? And what position would they play?

800
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: Craig Robinson fullback because no one stopping him. Okay, that's fair,

801
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: that's all right, that's fair. What do you think Kevin's

802
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: position would be? Although, see you said Craig Robinson, but

803
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: you mean Darryl Philbin. Oh yes, I'm sorry, Darryl Philbin.

804
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: What do you think Kevin would play? I think Kevin

805
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: Malone would have to be uh deceptively athletic, remember, yes,

806
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: and and offensive Lineman R. And that's where I would

807
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: put him, because you need someone that's going to have

808
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: legs like tree trunks that are set in the ground

809
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: and stable, and that's your that was your persona on

810
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: the show, a stable, physical person, almost an immovable object

811
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: at times. So I could see the focus of Kevin

812
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: just being I'm going to block block and I could

813
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: see that nothing to complicated. I think that. I mean,

814
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a that's a um, you know,

815
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: I think that's a that would be a standard response.

816
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: I think, what do you think if well, I think

817
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: if you were a writer on the office, it would

818
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: probably there would probably be a final play in the

819
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: game and somehow Kevin would run by every one and

820
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: catch a long touchdown. That would be that would be

821
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: where they're their minds would go. Who would who would

822
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: get kicked out of the game first? Oh, boy, b J.

823
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: Probably I mean Ryan Howard, Ryan R. Okay, fair enough,

824
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: he'd piss off somebody. Yeah, you know, I could see uh,

825
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: I could see Meredith Palmer doing something where she just

826
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: would have to be removed from the from the game. Yeah, well,

827
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: there are substance abuse there, there might be testing, who

828
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: might fail some sort of test. Um, who who would

829
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: be the m v P. Michael Scott, He'd be our

830
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: He'd be the quarterback, the fearless leader. For as ridiculous

831
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: as some of the pleas would turn out to be

832
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: and as nonsensical as they would turn out to be,

833
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you knew it was

834
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: an honest choice and it probably full the hell out

835
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: of the other team. Well, that's true, because it would

836
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: make very little sense sometimes. Again, somehow I think it

837
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: would it would be Jim. I don't know how, but

838
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: it would be Jim. Well that's you've been seeing those

839
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: pictures of his abs. Well, yeah, exactly, kidding me. Um,

840
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: all right, so we may come back and we may

841
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: talk about this now. Our draft is coming up very soon.

842
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: We get a lot of questions. I get a lot

843
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: of questions directly, Like, I'm an expert. I've been doing

844
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: it seventeen years. You just heard I've never won. But

845
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the league once we have the player set.

846
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? That sounds great. I

847
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: always love talking fancy with you. I love it now. Uh, Steve, sorry,

848
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: before I let you go, I know you have a

849
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Speaker 1: podcast of your own called if we Knew then UM

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Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about that if we knew

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Speaker 1: then Yes, Liam was born in Teach thousand and ten

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Speaker 1: with Down syndrome UM and it was an incredibly frightening

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Speaker 1: time for us. We when when Liam was born, we

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Speaker 1: didn't know very much about down stydrom or diversity inclusion,

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Speaker 1: all these words that we hear today and UM. But

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Speaker 1: most of the information we had about down syndrome was

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Speaker 1: not very positive. It was certainly not hopeful, and so

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Speaker 1: we were really looking for a place where parents could

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Speaker 1: hear those stories of accomplishments and and and also get

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Speaker 1: useful information. You know about therapies are educational supports but UM,

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Speaker 1: but just to hear positive messages and and we initially

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Speaker 1: thought that these things were going to be totally geared

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Speaker 1: to the down Sturgeon community, but we've I guess, through

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Speaker 1: constantly learning and evolving, we've realized that so many of

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Speaker 1: our guests have given information that's needed by all parents

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Speaker 1: and and it's helped us with both our kids. We

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Speaker 1: just recently talked to an attorney about family trusts UH.

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Speaker 1: We we we talk about the importance of self care

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Speaker 1: for parents UH through guided meditation was one way. We

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Speaker 1: had a pediatric dentist on just about introducing your child

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Speaker 1: to two healthy dental routine, you know. And uh, we

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Speaker 1: had a zen Buddhists on the Zen Buddhist priest on

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Speaker 1: the show about talking about fear. I mean that's the

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Speaker 1: main thing. We were only scared of the unknown and

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Speaker 1: fearful of that because we don't know it right. So

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Speaker 1: the more information we can gather, the less fear we have.

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Speaker 1: And these things benefit all parents and really to get

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Speaker 1: down to it though, even the stories that are more

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Speaker 1: specific to Down syndrome we all learned from. We interviewed

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Speaker 1: a couple of times Chris nikisch Uh he is the

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Speaker 1: first person with downstad and the Finish and iron Man

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Speaker 1: he won the Jimmy v Award on the SPS recently

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Speaker 1: and um and and how he broke through stereotypes. And

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Speaker 1: we had a a young dentistry student from Syria, sod

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Speaker 1: er Issa, who was raised by a father who has

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Speaker 1: Down syndrome. I mean his father has been married for

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Speaker 1: thirty years, goes to work every day to support his

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Speaker 1: family and or siblings. Like we've had our daughter on.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that we see the most is

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Speaker 1: that parents is so worried for the other kids or

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Speaker 1: the other family members, Like, what's the repercussions? Is the

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Speaker 1: thought process? What's what's what's going to happen to these

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Speaker 1: to the kids we have? And overwhelmingly we found that

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Speaker 1: it's it's a wonderful experience. U. We we got a

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Speaker 1: chance to talk to Steve Guffinson from ten Thousand Maniacs

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Speaker 1: and he had his his sister Cathy had Down syndrome,

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Speaker 1: and we talked to him about what he learned about

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Speaker 1: her and and many people from the entertainment industry to

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Speaker 1: to talk about the importance of inclusion in media, and

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Speaker 1: that is that is a big hashtag right now, inclusion

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Speaker 1: and it is very important for the disability community as well. Um.

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Speaker 1: But we talked to Julianne Robinson. She's the EP of

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Speaker 1: Bridgetain and that show has broken a lot of barriers.

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Speaker 1: But she also did a movie about an adult with

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Speaker 1: Down syndrome. So so yes, the podcast focuses on Down

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Speaker 1: syndrome and I highly recommend sharing it with anyone you

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Speaker 1: know who has someone with Down syndrome in their life.

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Speaker 1: But I think in doing it, I've realized how much

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Speaker 1: we can learn from each other, especially, you know, from

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Speaker 1: people we assumed we're very very different from ourselves, you know,

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Speaker 1: and and we really aren't all that different when it

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Speaker 1: gets down to it. I mean that that's inclusion. And

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Speaker 1: the more we include those stories, tell those stories, the

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Speaker 1: more we include all the people in our society to

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Speaker 1: join the table, to join the discussion, to truly be

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Speaker 1: a voice in our society, the better we all are,

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Speaker 1: right if we knew them. A podcast from Even and

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Speaker 1: his and his wife Lorie For what it's worth. Some

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Speaker 1: of my favorite days on set were when people's kids

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Speaker 1: who were either born during the show or not came in.

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Speaker 1: Sophia leam Walter. We talked about before Rain's kid. Um

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Speaker 1: just Angeli's Angela's daughter, Angela's daughter. Well, she basically lived

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Speaker 1: there right, totally lived in the trailer. She never went home.

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Speaker 1: Um no isabel that of course it's not true. Um, Stephen,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming and talking to me.

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Speaker 1: You had a very significant and important role on the show,

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Speaker 1: but also you were an important part of our dunder

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Speaker 1: Miffin and family. And uh, I want you to know you, Lori,

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Speaker 1: your kids, all of you are are very special to me.

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Speaker 1: And UH and I appreciate you coming in. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: all the work that you do keeping Fantasy Football lead going,

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Speaker 1: and and I love you and appreciate you, and let's

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Speaker 1: talk some more throughout the season. I love you brain

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Speaker 1: all right, definitely, thanks for um, thanks for just bringing

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Speaker 1: back some amazing memories. I mean, it's there's not often

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Speaker 1: that we get to like sit down and really like

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Speaker 1: talk about you know, I don't know if you ever

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Speaker 1: knew any that way I got on the show or anything,

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Speaker 1: and and it's just neat to hear that stuff and

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Speaker 1: and and and say and to say that stuff. Really,

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Speaker 1: it's really fantastic. Thank you, Thanks buddy, Thank you all right.

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Speaker 1: Stephen A k A sucks it to me. Uh, Steven,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming in to talk to

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Speaker 1: me today. We're gonna have you back throughout the season

945
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Speaker 1: to keep us posted on on how how the competitors

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Speaker 1: are faring, how are our teams are doing this year.

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Speaker 1: Also catch Stephen and his wife Laurie on their podcast

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Speaker 1: If We Knew Then, where they talk about their family

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Speaker 1: parenting and they do incredible work raising down syndrome awareness.

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Speaker 1: Also keep listening to this podcast, The Office Deep Dive.

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Speaker 1: For future updates about the Office Fantasy Football League. Until

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Speaker 1: next time, we will see you, well, We'll see you

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. The Office Deep Dive is hosted and executive

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Speaker 1: produced by me Brian Baumgartner alongside our executive producer Langley.

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Speaker 1: Our producers for this episode are Liz Hayes, Emily Carr

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Speaker 1: and Diego Topia, and our intern is Hannah Harris. My

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Speaker 1: main man in the booth is Colin Tadeshi. Our theme

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Speaker 1: song Bubble and Squeak, performed by my great friend Creed Bratton,

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Speaker 1: and the episode was mixed by Seth Olandsky